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"The Inside Scoop" (Wednesday, March 18, 2026, Hour 2) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 2: aren't going to be dragged down by the woke brigade either.
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  Speaker 2: We've been talking about Joe Kent obviously, so much more
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  Speaker 2: going on than just the defections within the intelligence community.
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  Speaker 2: But we can go back to that with you as
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  Speaker 2: well as primary day in Illinois and moderate upset in
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  Speaker 2: the Illinois primaries on the Democratic Party side. But they
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  Speaker 2: people and it is it was more than two to one.
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  Speaker 2: It was almost two point five to one voters in
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  Speaker 2: the Democrat primary for Senate to replace Dick Durbin in
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  Speaker 2: the Senate. There, but first things, so there you have
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a look into the Illinois primaries.
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  Speaker 2: Darren Bailey has won the Republican primary to face off
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  Speaker 2: against JB. Pritzker. I thought this was interesting. Several of
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  Speaker 2: the news outlets refer to him as billionaire JB.
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  Speaker 3: Pritzker.
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  Speaker 2: That's usually the first sign the press doesn't like you
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  Speaker 2: very much. He'll get a rematch with Bailey. In November,
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  Speaker 2: after winning the GOP primary, Lieutenant governor Former Lieutenant Governor
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  Speaker 2: Julianna Stratton won the Democratic Party primary for US Senate
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  Speaker 2: over Chris the Mothi, and the GOP primary went to
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  Speaker 2: Don Tracy a Ali Larijani, the top Iranian official that
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  Speaker 2: many say was running the country after the death of
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  Speaker 2: Iyatola's senior has been confirmed killed. As we reported to
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  Speaker 2: you yesterday morning. He was sixty seven, and the Iranian
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  Speaker 2: government set off a bevy of missiles in all directions
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  Speaker 2: after it became clear that Larajani had died. Head of
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  Speaker 2: US National counter Terrorism Center Joe Kent, has announced his resignation,
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  Speaker 2: saying he cannot in good conscience continue to be left
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  Speaker 2: out of briefings as he has been for the past month,
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  Speaker 2: according to administration officials. Huh oh no. He said he
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  Speaker 2: cannot in good conscience continue to back the president's war
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  Speaker 2: in Iran. He said that by his intelligence Iran posed
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  Speaker 2: no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear
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  Speaker 2: we started this war due to pressure from Israel. Iran's
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  Speaker 2: judiciary reported Wednesday that an enemy attack has hit southern Iran,
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  Speaker 2: killing and wounding civilians and judiciary staff in the Fars Province.
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  Speaker 2: Administration national security officials are on the Hill today for
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  Speaker 2: back to back Congressional hearings on the war in Iran,
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  Speaker 2: the strike on the school, as well as the FBI's
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  Speaker 2: capacity to prevent terror attacks. They can't get a budget
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  Speaker 2: the incoming head Mark Wayne Mullen. The Senate has voted
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  Speaker 3: M Amaze your friends here in First Thing Today by
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  Speaker 3: Joe Thomas.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so you know, if you read Joe kent screed
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  Speaker 2: about why he quit, it has nothing to do with
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  Speaker 2: the fact that he had been apparently frozen out of
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  Speaker 2: Intel briefings for the past month. But it's because we
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  Speaker 2: do what the Jews tell us to do. And uh
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  Speaker 2: soon to be seen as guest hosting on the Carlson
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  Speaker 2: program there and what I find ironic. We'll get to
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  Speaker 2: your phone calls in a second on this four three,
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  Speaker 2: four eight eight two four to two one seven. It's
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  Speaker 2: not so much that somebody within the administration, who, according
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  Speaker 2: to Telsey Gabbert, had been leaking he was the source
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  Speaker 2: of Remember we were a couple of days ago he
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  Speaker 2: said the administration was leaking like an Iranian battleship after
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  Speaker 2: a missile strike. And apparently it was Joe Kent that
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  Speaker 2: was doing the leaking. And they know that because they
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  Speaker 2: stopped inviting him to briefings and then the leaking stopped.
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  Speaker 2: Funny that state craft there. But his statement, I guess
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  Speaker 2: as his audition to get on the Tucker Carlson podcast,
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  Speaker 2: is that we're only doing this because Israel told us to,
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  Speaker 2: regardless of all the times Americans have been targeted and
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  Speaker 2: attacked by my client states and gig terrorists that have
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  Speaker 2: been funded by the Iranian regime there. But the real
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  Speaker 2: irony to me is that, you know, they will say,
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  Speaker 2: we're only doing this because Israel asked us to. But
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  Speaker 2: we're told we must support Ukraine because Germany asked us
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  Speaker 2: to that we you know that in an effort to
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  Speaker 2: you know, take on Russia, we must take on Russia
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  Speaker 2: because Germany or France or English. You can't have it
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  Speaker 2: both ways. If you don't want us responding to the
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  Speaker 2: requests of allies, then don't ask us to respond to
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  Speaker 2: the request of allies. And go full on robot isolationist
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  Speaker 2: if you want, and that's a fair debate. I don't
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  Speaker 2: mind having that discussion with somebody about full on isolationism,
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  Speaker 2: but be consistent about it. At least Reem is on
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  Speaker 2: the line of four three four eight eight two four
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  Speaker 2: two one seven. What's going on, Kareem? How are you
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  Speaker 2: doing this morning, Joe?
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing well.
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  Speaker 18: I'm passing through with Hill at the moment, waving to
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  Speaker 18: the locals, although they don't see me against the sodark
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  Speaker 18: twenty two degrees.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of way to pronounce it correctly too.
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  Speaker 18: By the way, Oh, somebody cluded me and otherwise watabilis Anyway,
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  Speaker 18: I digress this, So tell you what this Joe camp. Now,
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  Speaker 18: was that a Tulsi confirmed he was the laker? Or
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  Speaker 18: was that a senior unnamed source who leaked.
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  Speaker 2: That mean, go back to the story about him being
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  Speaker 2: the leaker? This was confirmed that this was why he
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  Speaker 2: had been stopped or he had been disinvited to the
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  Speaker 2: morning Intel briefings because uh, they were trying to determine
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  Speaker 2: whether he was the leaker. And then I guess, uh
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  Speaker 2: when the leaking stopped because he wasn't invited to the
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  Speaker 2: Intel briefings. That's when they determined that he was the leaker.
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  Speaker 18: I understand the logic with that, but I'm I can't
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  Speaker 18: say it's full proof.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'll just look at that.
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  Speaker 2: Investigations are never a fool proof, but you know, you
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  Speaker 2: do process of elimination and stuff like that. But that
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  Speaker 2: was why it wasn't because he disagreed with the president
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  Speaker 2: was the point. He claims that he stopped being invited
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  Speaker 2: to the press briefings or the intel briefings because he
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  Speaker 2: disagreed with the president in the ramp up to the
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  Speaker 2: attack on Tehran, And the statement from Gabbard is that
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  Speaker 2: he had been kept out of the meetings because they
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  Speaker 2: believed he.
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  Speaker 4: Was the leaker.
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  Speaker 18: Honestly, Trump again, not an expert, not in the inside.
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  Speaker 18: I'm just from my views on the asside, Tom seems
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  Speaker 18: to be in a very high walled garden, very well
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  Speaker 18: manicured and access is controlled. I would not And as
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  Speaker 18: low as senior staff goes on the totem poe as
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  Speaker 18: Joe is out Aladdin time tour VET eleven tour veteran
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  Speaker 18: the Special Forces in a rock before he went to
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  Speaker 18: work for the CIA. So so this is not somebody
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  Speaker 18: who I saw it on TV or watching it on
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  Speaker 18: the news.
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  Speaker 4: This is somebody who actually lived it and did it.
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  Speaker 18: But kind of what you were saying about, you know,
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  Speaker 18: Germany is asking the US to go to Ukraine and
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  Speaker 18: Israel's asking to go. What are on the whole point
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  Speaker 18: of NATO from concisely put was to keep Russia out,
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  Speaker 18: the Solovieian, keep Germany down, to keep the US in.
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  Speaker 4: That was one of the easiest ways to explain it.
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  Speaker 18: But setting aside that, going back to Kent and his
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  Speaker 18: saying that, I can't say that he said the Jews
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  Speaker 18: to that, because for example, we have Ethiopian jees who
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  Speaker 18: haven't really asked us to anything.
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  Speaker 4: That I know of.
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  Speaker 2: So when you say this is this is the Candice
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  Speaker 2: Elwyn's tunker Carlson and and I believe you know, fed
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  Speaker 2: by Iranian disinformation clowns. They are out there into Intel service.
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  Speaker 2: There all the phony bots that the Clemson University report outed,
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  Speaker 2: all these phony sites that are feeding this kind of information.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same thing. It's the same rhetoric they use
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  Speaker 2: about Epstein. Oh, we only did these things be you know,
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  Speaker 2: Epstein was a Masad agent, and so the only reason
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  Speaker 2: we supported Israel was because Epstein had corrupting information on
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  Speaker 2: all of our officials. I stand by Israel not because
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  Speaker 2: I'm Jewish, not because I have but because it's a
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  Speaker 2: Western enclave in an Eastern world. And if you look
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  Speaker 2: at all the Arabian countries that have become more conversant
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  Speaker 2: in Eastern ways, it's since Israel's insertion there or creation there.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think the westernization of the Arab world
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  Speaker 2: has been in large part because of Israel's existence. So
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  Speaker 2: just saying, oh, we're only doing this because Israel told
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  Speaker 2: us to is I just think, you know, if that's
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  Speaker 2: his level of intelligence, now I agree with you. This
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  Speaker 2: is a multi tour combat veteran who watched an absolutely
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  Speaker 2: abysmally managed war, and having seen what he saw, I
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  Speaker 2: would be against any other incursions there either because he
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  Speaker 2: knows what we've done in the past, and he's probably
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  Speaker 2: lost a lot of brothers and sisters in the Middle
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  Speaker 2: East in these haphazard misadventures starting with w and going
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  Speaker 2: on through JB. So I get why he would say that,
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  Speaker 2: but this is just a different kind of paradigm. I
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  Speaker 2: truly believe that this isn't the same way George Bush
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  Speaker 2: said we're going to go after state sponsors of terrorism,
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  Speaker 2: mostly because George Bush didn't go after the biggest state
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  Speaker 2: sponsor terrorism, which was Iran.
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  Speaker 18: I get what you're saying, but I'll holk him back
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  Speaker 18: to the nineties before even nine to eleven occurred, which again,
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  Speaker 18: if you look at most of the hijackers for nine
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  Speaker 18: to eleven, they weren't Iran and they were Saudi's And
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  Speaker 18: those twenty eight pages that a few years ago everybody
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  Speaker 18: kept talking about, oh, we need to be classify, which honestly,
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  Speaker 18: national security and declassification I think that's a whole Hall
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  Speaker 18: of ality magic trick. But if you look back in
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  Speaker 18: the nineties, then we look at Wolfews, we look at chaining.
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  Speaker 18: I know you're bringing up today and I'm going, no, no, what.
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  Speaker 3: As quickly for you from Joe Thomas. It's first thing today.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: from the counter Terrorism Task Force, former senior advisor to
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  Speaker 2: Tolsey Gabbard at d N I, Tom specially, Tom, thank
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  Speaker 2: And Joe Kent. You knew Joe Kent. I guess still
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  Speaker 2: know Joe Kent. So give us some background.
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  Speaker 3: First.
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  Speaker 2: How have you been doing. It's been a few months
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing great, Joe, I'm doing great. Thanks for thanks
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  Speaker 4: for having me on.
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  Speaker 2: Not at all, and you can find him if you
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  Speaker 2: and I know it's that's that's the New York way
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  Speaker 2: us some in side into what's going on here in Intel.
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  Speaker 2: We're hearing the stories that he was frozen out of
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  Speaker 4: Well, I would say, first of all, a lot a
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's a gold star father or a husband
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  Speaker 4: have a background in intel work. He has a background
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  Speaker 4: in implementing orders and carrying out you know, dangerous operations
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  Speaker 4: many ways across the intelligence community. But but to the
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  Speaker 4: unconfirmed at this point. I have talked to several people
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  Speaker 4: who who think that this may be true. I haven't
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  Speaker 2: Well, and on this side of the media world, one
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  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think so, Joe, because you know
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  Speaker 2: Well, Tom, we're talking with Tom specially who, as he said,
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  Speaker 2: You knew on a Tedsday that particular biscuit from the
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  Speaker 2: Visiting with a former intelligence strategist at the Iran Threat
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  Speaker 2: Network seven years at the National Intelligence Managers Office as
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: well as at the National counter Terrorism Task Force. They're
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: talking about jumping off of the Joe Kent resignation, but moreover,
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  Speaker 2: trying to get a little bit more of the backstory
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  Speaker 2: here because as this Tom, you'll like this. A text
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  Speaker 2: message from Larry writes in Oh great, Joe Thomas now
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  Speaker 2: has a military expert saying he was right. Dude is
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: going to be insufferable from this point for hard. I
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  Speaker 2: guess I have a reputation, But I want to ask
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  Speaker 2: about you were talking about Joe Kent's service and all
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  Speaker 2: these misadventures in the Middle East, mismanaged by Washington types.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned forty seven years Iran has been paying these
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  Speaker 2: gig terrorists to do their dirty work for them, proxies,
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  Speaker 2: if you will. And in two thousand and two, I
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  Speaker 2: distinctly remember George W. Bush saying we are going to
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  Speaker 2: go after state sponsors of terrorism, and since then, twenty
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  Speaker 2: four years, we've avoided the mac daddy of all state
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  Speaker 2: sponsors of terrorism. Was George W. Bush just misinformed or
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  Speaker 2: did they want to go after all the little ones
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  Speaker 2: instead of Iran directly?
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  Speaker 18: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: You know, that's a that's a great question, Joe. I
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  Speaker 4: think you know, many many years ago, I came up
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  Speaker 4: with the idea of the G I Joe doctrine because
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  Speaker 4: I saw what was happening in Iraq and Afghanistan and
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  Speaker 4: where you get into these never ending, you know, gristmill
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  Speaker 4: wars where you're trying to fight this ideology in among them.
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  Speaker 4: This is the same problem we had in Vietnam, where
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: you're in there fighting against an ideology without a real
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: good not just an exit strategy, but like you've got
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: to fight, you've got to be able to fight in
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  Speaker 4: the narrative space as well, and we don't. The US
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  Speaker 4: doesn't do a good job. We don't do a good
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  Speaker 4: job of that. And so you know, I I I
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  Speaker 4: remember very distinctly you're you're to your point about we're
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  Speaker 4: going to deal with these state sponsors of terror. The
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  Speaker 4: problem was everybody was afraid of doing. Everybody envisioned that
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  Speaker 4: the only way to overthrow the Iranian regime was to
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  Speaker 4: do boots on the ground. And you and Iran is
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: an extremely rugged environment. It's an extremely it's it's perfect,
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: it's a perfect defensive fortress for a bunch of you know,
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: zelots to you know, it's it's afghan If it's Afghan,
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: it's worse in Afghanistan practical because the whole country on
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: the on the eastern side, on the western side is
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: a big, huge mountain range, right, So you're not going
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: to be able to just go into Iran, which is
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: why we came up with the Iran Castration war plan,
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: where you just destroy their military capability and their power
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: projection capability, and you destroy the leadership. But the real
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: but the real problem here is is that the American
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: people don't understand the threat because they've never really experienced
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  Speaker 4: it at home. So they say, well, they're not an
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: eminent threat to us. No, they're not an eminent threat
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: to us, but they are an imminent threat to the
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  Speaker 4: rest of the world. I mean they are literally, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: their whole ideology is about exporting this bloodthirsty revolution around
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  Speaker 4: the world, and they have been to a great extent successful.
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  Speaker 4: I was just looking at some of the numbers that
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  Speaker 4: I have. My count is is that they have between
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  Speaker 4: one two hundred and fifty to five hundred thousand revolutionary
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  Speaker 4: fighters all throughout the Middle East. There that are just
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: scattered throughout the Middle East, collecting guns and collecting bombs
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  Speaker 4: and building UAVs to essentially destroy the Soonies. That's their
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  Speaker 4: their you know they say death to America and death
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  Speaker 4: to Israel, but really they want to kill all the
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  Speaker 4: Soonies first, and the Soonies.
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  Speaker 2: Know that We've mentioned that, right' it's this internal war
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  Speaker 2: in in this Islamic faith.
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  Speaker 4: What it is.
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  Speaker 2: It should and I don't you know, it's interesting how
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  Speaker 2: you look at generations and grandparents talk to grandkids more
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  Speaker 2: sometimes than their own kids. These these young people who
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  Speaker 2: are protesting in streets, they're the grandkids of the people
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  Speaker 2: who can remember when Iran was considered the quote most
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  Speaker 2: Western country, uh in that area, amazing university system engineering
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: and that kind of thing. Is that what's fueling their
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: feeling like, hey, we could be free because they're still
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: it's they're still it's still been so recent that there
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  Speaker 2: are people that can recall when Iran wasn't a theocracy.
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  Speaker 4: One hundred percent one hundred percent. And again it's a
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  Speaker 4: brutal it's a brutal authoritarian theocratic dictatorship. I mean, you
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: don't really get much worse than this, this time type
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  Speaker 4: of a form of government where the women are beaten
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  Speaker 4: in the streets if they don't cover their hair. Homosexuals
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: are literally thrown off buildings just for being homosexuals. American. Yeah,
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: and you've got all these American college kids running around
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  Speaker 4: that are you know, they don't know what the hell
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  Speaker 4: they're talking about. They don't know anything about the history
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  Speaker 4: of Iran or much less the history of Iran with
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  Speaker 4: the West the rest of the world. And they're out
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: there going, well, you know, we shouldn't be over there
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: killing them. We're this is a defensive operation. I believe
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: that what we're doing. You know, right now, nobody likes.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Nobody likes doing what we're having to do. But we
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: have given the Iranian regime every opportunity to modernize over
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: the last forty seven years. They want to live in
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: the seventh century. These leaders want because they have complete
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: and absolute control. They can rape, murder, and kill their
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: own people at their whim. Is this is like a
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  Speaker 4: medieval eight tom It's a medieval state.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Next week we're going to be at Sea pac and
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Reza Pallavi is going to be one of the speakers there.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: But then I'm reading about Mariam Rajavi, the ex child
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  Speaker 2: Iranian government in Paris. Ironically, where the Ayatola was hiding
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  Speaker 2: as well up until seventy seven, and everyone's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: she's a Marxist. I mean she's in Paris. Everyone's a
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  Speaker 2: Marxist in Paris. What do you see of these two
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  Speaker 2: and their debate as to whether they should be the
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  Speaker 2: leader or do we want a tertiam quid here and
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: somebody from within that we don't know about.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think ultimately it has to be up to
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  Speaker 4: the Iranian people. Whatever decision is made, it has to
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: be up to the Iranian people. Can't be the dyspora.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: It has to be the people who have suffered under
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  Speaker 4: this regime who determine their fate. The dspora can have
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  Speaker 4: an influence over that because they want to go home,
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  Speaker 4: They want to go home to the Iran that they love,
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: and they can have an influence on that. And I
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: believe that they will have an influence on that. But
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: it really does need to be internal. Now. The problem
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: is is the the the the authoritarian elite of Iran
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  Speaker 4: are going to be one shade or another of the
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  Speaker 4: of the regime, of the of the radical nature of
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  Speaker 4: the regime that's currently there. So what we've got to
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: be on the lookout for is is We've got to
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: be looked, you know for, sort of like the you know,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: the secret. The what we want is we need somebody
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  Speaker 4: to take charge of Iran from within that is going
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: to want to modernize and get away from this this
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  Speaker 4: radical you know, I see that seventh century Islamic you know,
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  Speaker 4: totalitarian dictator ship. It's just it's crazy town that they
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  Speaker 4: want and the Iranian people deserve to be free. After
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  Speaker 4: this forty seven years.
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