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Rob Gronkowski On Mike Vrabel's Patriots, Belichick At UNC & Joining Brady On Buccaneers | Bussin' · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 3: We just finished up the PGA Championship. The NBA and
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  Speaker 3: NHL conference finals are underway. The NFL schedule dropped last week,
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  Speaker 3: the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Oklahoma City Thunder in the West,
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  Speaker 3: The Indiana Pacers and the New York Knicks in the East.
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  Speaker 3: Who are we writing with for the rest of the
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  Speaker 3: pro seeds? For the rest of the postseason? Boys, I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna give you the Knicks. I'm just look, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 3: just I don't know shit about basketball, but I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: ride it with the Knicks because i feel like they've
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  Speaker 3: created the most chaos on social media. Yeah, taking down
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  Speaker 3: the Celtics.
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  Speaker 1: I was actually just a game. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: Game four. It was in New York. I was there
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  Speaker 1: actually with fan Duel. I was up in their suite,
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  Speaker 1: you know, shooting some content, making some bets in the game,
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  Speaker 1: and that at Mispear in New York at Madison Square
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  Speaker 1: Garden was absolutely electric. My man, I'm talking. I never
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  Speaker 1: seen a basketball game like that. The garden in Boston
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  Speaker 1: is always electric, but it was like another level, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in New York City. I feel like because they haven't
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  Speaker 1: been in the playoffs or that far and so long,
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  Speaker 1: and they're also facing the reigning champs and they did
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  Speaker 1: win that game as well. So New York is popping.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not a Knicks fan. I'm a Celtics fan.
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  Speaker 1: Actually not really. I don't really have a true NBA
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  Speaker 1: team because I grew up in Buffalo. But I'm cheering
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  Speaker 1: for Oklahoma Thunder right now. I just watched Game seven
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  Speaker 1: versus No, I'm not going next.
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  Speaker 3: I was just giving them credit for the A And
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't feel like they fan base is psychotic and psychotic.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the last game they just played, they beat the
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  Speaker 4: ship out of the Celtics team like eighty four or
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  Speaker 4: something like that.
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  Speaker 1: Something was down. Brown has like a torn mc l
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  Speaker 1: gus had like an illness. Yeah, football injuries. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: just don't know how to work because they're not football.
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  Speaker 4: To get that sish figuring out baby, and also Timothy Shallamane.
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  Speaker 4: You see that guy sitting outside the s u V.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the videos after the game, like outside Timothy Charlemagne
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  Speaker 3: and then like there's some face what I think you
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  Speaker 3: said it nice Charlemagne. Yeah, Charlotte Charlamagne.
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  Speaker 1: That's a hard name to say. You don't want me to.
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  Speaker 3: Ultimately, they're throwing like trash bags at him. Who is that?
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  Speaker 3: Was that a Celtics fan?
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  Speaker 1: That was an Indiana Pacers fan and he was wearing
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  Speaker 1: the star player's name. What's Hallan Burton? Sure, yeah, Halim
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  Speaker 1: Burton's jersey, and they're throwing trash cans and everything at him.
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  Speaker 3: And everybody.
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  Speaker 1: The northeast, which was wild. That's too much, man, just
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  Speaker 1: because he's wearing the jersey around the city and you're
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  Speaker 1: attacking home. I mean it was one verse like a thousand.
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  Speaker 1: The guy just had to walk away in shame. But
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  Speaker 1: I think that's too much to start throwing trash at
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  Speaker 1: like a random fan that's just wearing another jersey something
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the streets. A lot. I kind
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  Speaker 1: of love it, you do.
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  Speaker 4: I do, because it's just like it adds to me
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  Speaker 4: for the entertainment. I don't think we should ever hurt somebody,
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  Speaker 4: We should never be hateful. Checkbox, checkbox, check box. But
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  Speaker 4: I also think like when fan bases are that nasty,
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  Speaker 4: you talk about like the Philodelphy Eagles, like that adds
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  Speaker 4: to the storyline of all the teams playing and the
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  Speaker 4: last time they played X, Y and Z happened. Like
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  Speaker 4: I think it's good for sports and the culture and
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  Speaker 4: everything like that.
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  Speaker 1: There's a place for just as long as it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: leads pulling out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, stabbing fights and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, people getting stabbed, but that's usually what it leads to.
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  Speaker 4: Right, right, if we can just throw a nice bag
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  Speaker 4: of trash or somebody and then maybe chest like bump
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  Speaker 4: chest a couple of times, push each other.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll move on.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll take that every day of the week.
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  Speaker 1: Throw a couple of fists. Yeah it was this couple.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, keep it classic. Well, since we're showing the basketball thing,
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  Speaker 4: Kington Clark, Angel Reaes, where do you stand on that?
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  Speaker 1: I'm a Caitlin Clark fan.
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  Speaker 3: Are you really where do you have you?
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  Speaker 4: Do you see this past weekend?
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  Speaker 3: I see all the Internet's blowing up about it, and
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  Speaker 3: may it's something like.
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  Speaker 1: I really do think that Angel Reese does not like
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  Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark. Definitely.
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  Speaker 3: That's probably a competitive rivalry, but everybody tries to make
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  Speaker 3: it about some race thing storyline.
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  Speaker 1: But the first time I'm a Caitlin Clark fan because
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  Speaker 1: I actually just hearing a lot about her when she
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  Speaker 1: was at Iowa. What was it, I think her second
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  Speaker 1: last year when they when she was playing in all
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  Speaker 1: the games. No, I think it was her last year,
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  Speaker 1: and I haven't seen her play yet. And then she
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  Speaker 1: was in the tournament and I finally watched a game
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  Speaker 1: in the tournament and she was just shooting threes up
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  Speaker 1: like she was Steph Curry, and she was just sinking
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  Speaker 1: them from like five feet past the three point line.
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  Speaker 1: That's when I became a big fan, just watching her
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  Speaker 1: first game in the tournament and I was just thrilled
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  Speaker 1: watching her and I was I was in shock just
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  Speaker 1: how smooth she was too, with all her passes, the
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  Speaker 1: way she dribbled, and the way she shot. And then
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  Speaker 1: ever since then, I became a big fan of her game.
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  Speaker 1: And now I follow her through the w NBA and
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  Speaker 1: I follow that whole beef angel rees Caitlyn Clark, and
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  Speaker 1: I think Caitlyn Clark is on the pedestal of being
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  Speaker 1: top dog in the NB and the WNBA and Angel Reese,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like he's just a little bit jealous. I
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  Speaker 1: think when we tell about yeah, right, not to go
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  Speaker 1: way back to then, Kaitlyn.
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  Speaker 4: Clark being as good as she is is one thing.
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  Speaker 4: So she comes in as a big jump in the
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  Speaker 4: in the viewership in the w n B A but
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  Speaker 4: that wouldn't be sustainable if there wasn't the Angel Reeses
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  Speaker 4: adding to like the hate now we have this big
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  Speaker 4: rival were going on. So next time they play, the
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  Speaker 4: seats were filled for that game, And I just think
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  Speaker 4: it's attention to the league.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I agree, you need Angel
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  Speaker 1: Reese to have this hatredg uh to Kitlyn Clark and
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  Speaker 1: all these other players to keep getting that attention that
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  Speaker 1: the w NBA actually deserves as well. And it's working.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if they were all for Kaitlyn Clark. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: she's such a good player, she's so sweet to play again.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna let her shoot her three pointer. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to contest it. Oh, since she's getting elbows thrown
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  Speaker 1: at her, people are loving that, and people love physicality
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  Speaker 1: in sports. That's what fans love. That's why hockey's back
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  Speaker 1: all the fighting when with the four nations everyone's throwing
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  Speaker 1: elbows at each other the checks. That's why the NBA
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  Speaker 1: is kind of back in the playoffs right now because
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  Speaker 1: the referees are letting all that physicality, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: go on. They're getting physical again in the pain and
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  Speaker 1: they're throwing elbows. They're playing hard, and fans love to
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  Speaker 1: see that. And that's why football is the greatest sport
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  Speaker 1: because every play is physically you're getting thirty every single play.
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  Speaker 4: Before we go any further, could we just get a
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  Speaker 4: quick moment of sounds from my beloved Toronto Maple Leafs.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you very much for your time.
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  Speaker 1: You know that was tough for me because I'm from Buffalo.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a big Buffalo Savers fans. Toronto Maple Leafs was
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  Speaker 1: our rival really, you know, throughout my whole childhood, especially
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  Speaker 1: Ti Domi versus Rob Ray, all those fights back in
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  Speaker 1: the day. I love both of them just getting after it. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: but I didn't really want to give that moment of silence.
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  Speaker 4: I will say this, if we can, we can be
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  Speaker 4: nasty about Toronto. Now they're in Game seven, in the
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  Speaker 4: biggest game in your franchise's history since nineteen sixty seven
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  Speaker 4: when you actually won the Cup. Disgusting display of effort.
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  Speaker 4: The boys were did not want it yesterday in the
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  Speaker 4: first period, zero zero. Then all of a sudden, I
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  Speaker 4: go to start putting my kids down. I pop up
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  Speaker 4: the YouTube TV as I'm laying on the ground as
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  Speaker 4: they're falling asleep, and they're just getting throwed them badly.
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  Speaker 3: Three goals within ten minutes.
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  Speaker 4: And they just got after them over and over and
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  Speaker 4: over again. I mean they killed a great penalty after
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  Speaker 4: the first period, and then well it was a Wall.
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  Speaker 4: He was a goalie, correct, he became a sieve in
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  Speaker 4: those last two periods and it was just tough, dude, tough.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know, history repeats itself, and I think the
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  Speaker 1: Toronto Maple Leafs had folded and basically every game seven
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  Speaker 1: in the last five six years, right in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: So I actually did my first NHL bet on FanDuel
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  Speaker 1: sports book last night. I bet two hundred dollars on
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  Speaker 1: the Florida Panthers just beating the Toronto Maple Leafs straight up,
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  Speaker 1: and I won. Let me pull it up, man, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not telling you. It was my first I ever made
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  Speaker 1: world Taylor put five. That must have not worked. H yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my head Florida. Yeah yeah, so I kind of wish
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  Speaker 1: you won now and then we kind.
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  Speaker 4: Of like Taylor a lot more and got his.
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  Speaker 1: A let me go. It was actually my first bat
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  Speaker 1: in the state of Tennessee too, which is really cool.
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  Speaker 1: All right right here, Tennessee Saddle. Look at that Florida
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  Speaker 1: Panthers toll wager two hundred dollars one three forty.
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  Speaker 3: I love that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, look at that. I just check it out.
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  Speaker 4: I did see that. I saw that on Twitter last night.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm just thinking to myself, God, damn it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was just watching. I was doing the same
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  Speaker 3: thing Scott.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, my last my last four bets with the
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  Speaker 4: Toronto maple Leafs have gotten murdered, and I had Toronto
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  Speaker 4: a futures bet on them. We're in the Eastern Conference finals,
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  Speaker 4: and obviously that's not going to come come together anymore.
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  Speaker 4: That's now dead.
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  Speaker 3: Biz has been such a like a you know, voice
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  Speaker 3: for the Leafs. And then you've obviously been riding with
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  Speaker 3: the Leaves too, so knowing that they were in a
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  Speaker 3: game seven when I was just watching the last night,
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  Speaker 3: she says, like a you know, non hockey guy, just
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  Speaker 3: watching as a as a fan of the love of
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  Speaker 3: the game, for the love of the game, a game
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  Speaker 3: seven going on, it did seem like Florida was just
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  Speaker 3: playing at a different speed, just bullying, bullying the maple Leafs.
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  Speaker 4: I had clump on phone with a bunch of people
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  Speaker 4: from FanDuel setting up something when they won this game.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna go to a game in Toronto. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: check it out, get the environment. See that's all about
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  Speaker 4: sure enough, man. They shipped the bed and everyone told
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  Speaker 4: me Toronto is like the Dallas Cowboys of hockey. Like
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  Speaker 4: they're like the biggest, most well known franchise. They sell
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  Speaker 4: the most jerseys, they make the most money, blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 4: And I thought, that's great. I'll get behind them. It'll
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  Speaker 4: be a fun fan base to play with. Little did
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  Speaker 4: I know if they really are the Dallas Cowboys. Those
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  Speaker 4: ship the bed in the playoffs, and that's what just happened. Yeah, tough, tough, slick.
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  Speaker 3: There was one two like when it was zero zero
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  Speaker 3: after the first period, I was like, I wonder if
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  Speaker 3: because you could notice that Florida was just out playing
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  Speaker 3: them the whole time, even though it was zero zero.
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  Speaker 3: Hang around and the least might just pull something off.
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  Speaker 3: But then they just started to just put their face
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  Speaker 3: in the pillow.
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  Speaker 4: Austin Matthews, the Scotts, the Arizona guy captain. I was like, man,
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  Speaker 4: I need an Arizona boy. They're running for us, but
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  Speaker 4: now we got to chuck good chuck for the Panthers.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, my favorite player in the NHR, though, is
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  Speaker 1: the Adminton Oilers going blank? Yeah, David, I mean I
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  Speaker 1: love skates around just to spenders ice to ice, you know,
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  Speaker 1: lying to line and just goes around everyone. I'm cheering
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  Speaker 1: for him. I'm hoping that minto the Oilers win it all. Plus,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the NHL needs a Canada the team
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  Speaker 1: to you know, win it. It's been so long, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that will bring hockey back in a way,
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  Speaker 1: even though you know, yeah, even though we're beefing a
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  Speaker 1: little bit anywhere, yeh, Canada. I think it would be Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it would be really good if Edmonton Oilers
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  Speaker 1: win it for the NHL.
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  Speaker 3: Just for the sport, the attention and everything exactly.
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  Speaker 1: And on top of it, on top of speaking about hockey,
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  Speaker 1: my brother texted me this morning. He goes, you have
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  Speaker 1: to let because I was like, I'm going on with
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  Speaker 1: buzzing with the boys, and I didn't really know. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think he really knew. That's truly, you guys are
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: like more of a football podcast. And he goes, you
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  Speaker 1: have to let them know. You're going to be in
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  Speaker 1: the hockey world soon with all your nephews. So I
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  Speaker 1: just want to give a shout out to all my nephews.
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  Speaker 1: They're up and coming in the hockey world right now.
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  Speaker 1: They're playing on the Buffalo Junior Sabers they're ballers and
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  Speaker 1: you'll be hearing a lot about them in the few
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  Speaker 1: my nephews. I told my brought I would get it
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  Speaker 1: in if somehow the hockey subject gets brought up. So
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  Speaker 1: there you go, brother and Jace Grayson. Keep dominating boys.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are gonna be lethal out there on the ice.
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  Speaker 4: You play it all you in the skates. Being New York.
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  Speaker 1: I love playing hockey, man. I grew up and played
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  Speaker 1: until ninth grade, and I stopped playing hockey because hockey
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  Speaker 1: and basketball were at the same time, and I just
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  Speaker 1: thought basketball was a better fit for me. And I
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  Speaker 1: kind of like basketball more at that time. But hockey
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  Speaker 1: was my favorite sport growing up.
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  Speaker 3: Ye many, damn.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, But think about this guy's hockey.
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  Speaker 1: I was but left wing.
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  Speaker 4: You who Charlie is? No, it's your wife.
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  Speaker 3: Number one.
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  Speaker 4: Number two is Danny Charro. He was a guy who
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  Speaker 4: played for the Boston Bruins. He's like six seven, he's
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  Speaker 4: like six eleven on skates. This he was Russian, right,
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  Speaker 4: this Russian guy who just beat the fun.
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  Speaker 1: Out of people. It was it was not from the US,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was not from here. He wasn't from here,
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  Speaker 4: But the guy have like a hundred I think he
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  Speaker 4: did like one hundred and ten mile an hour slap
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  Speaker 4: shot because he used to do that. Like the All
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  Speaker 4: Star games, they would do all like the little challenges.
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  Speaker 4: His slap shot was insane.
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  Speaker 1: This game literally like twenty three years in the NHL.
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  Speaker 3: And just with body bag people of all time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and that could have been six nine six nine. Were
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  Speaker 3: you nice up until you stopped playing?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I was nice. I was nice. If I get on
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  Speaker 1: skates now, I'm pretty slappy because it's been so long
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  Speaker 1: and you got to like be able to skate all
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  Speaker 1: the time in order to keep up with it. But
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  Speaker 1: I was nice, man, I only played up a level.
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  Speaker 1: I played with all my friends that were older than me.
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  Speaker 1: I love playing hockey, it was It was by far
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  Speaker 1: my favorite sport. And I was in Buffalo too, with
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  Speaker 1: all the ice rinks around. It was so good. I
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  Speaker 1: had one time scored ten goals in a game when
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  Speaker 1: it was it was house hockey. We were down ten
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  Speaker 1: to one and I ended up scoring ten goals in
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  Speaker 1: a row and tied it up and made it eleven eleven,
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: and then we ended up losing twelve to eleven. That
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: was I think squirts. You scored ten goals. It was ridiculous.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: It was one of the best performances of all time.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: It was just.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: And then another time there was just there was this chick.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: She was this was travel hockey. There was this chick
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: on the cheek the Wogga team I think it was.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: And this this is a pretty good story. And she
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: was vicious, she was strong, and she always came after
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: me to try and just deck me. And it was
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: always a joke all around. We're playing the chick like,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: don't get leveled, and she came at me and I
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: absolutely destriight it. I'm talking like she would go flying
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: back like three feet, but she would get up and
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: then next ship she would come full speed and try
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: to deck me. One time she hit me pretty hard.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: She went flying back still though, but my helmet broke
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: and my face mask went flying off me. So still
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: to this day, my friends punked me about the time
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: the chick absolutely rocked me and my face mask went
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: flying off me. But then like literally like ten years later,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: when I got to the NFL whatever eight years later,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: however long it was I'm a rookie and she dms
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: me on Facebook She's like, hey, Rob, remember I'm the
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: girl that always attacked you in hockey, And I like
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: lost my mind. I was showing all my friends that
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: she said she's writing me messages. It was just it
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: was just cool.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: Big respect to her too, even though she got that.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: She's trying to slide in the DMS after Yeah, oh
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: he made it to the league. Rival she was your
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: angel Reese and you're and then all of a sudden
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: you make it to the league.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: She's like shot out for just having the sack to
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: just come at me. Yeah, yeah, every single I'm sure you.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Were an absolute unit at this time too. Still real.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was no Back in the day when
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I was playing hockey. Oh, fearless, fearless I played.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: We had a much different stories. So I played hockey
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: like when I was like eight or whatever it mights
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: and it was right before checking and I house House
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: got a hat trick. We won it. The next year
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: pee wee's were doing like tryouts for a travel team,
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: and I did not know checking was like starting right
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: as the whistles blowing. Some guy who I believe in
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: my head is still to this day he was six
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: seven at eight years old.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: He knocks me down.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: I got off the ice.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: I was done.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: I wanted nothing to do with it, really wanted nothing.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: To do with it. Was that the last time you skate?
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: That was the last time, you know, they say get
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: back in the horse. No, I went that croom. I
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: took my pads off. I retired that day. Dude, that
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: was such a pussy growing.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Well then, what what got you into football? If you
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: couldn't handle no idea? How did you get into football?
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I was the kid.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: I was the kid that was like even hated baseball.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, hit with the ball and I.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: Would steps me yes, I would step out of the
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: batter's box and like kind of swing like this.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I was one of those that bats up when the
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: pitchers coming, he bats up three feet in that was
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: mere feet. Yeah, I was because they're so scared, so scared.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Those kids drove me crazy. Yeah, yeah, that was you
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: would have you would have hated. Yeah, Like when did
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: that switch? Probably probably like.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a good little hair on my sack
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: and I was like, you know what, this physicality thing
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: is not bad. I like went from doing sports like
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: from five to eleven twelve thirteen, I did my whole
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: like X games, like Metal, Militia, Travis Pastrana, Niter Circuit's
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: life and then I got a little bit of trouble.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: My dad's like, you got to play football. And we
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: went and played football one state my sophomore year at
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: nose Tackle, and from then on I was like, Yo,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I'm obsessed with football.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I loved it. Is that the dog? Yeah?
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: That Ralph If people who are able to see Ralphie
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: down here, we got Yeah, we got a little friend.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: They squirrel noises in the corner over here.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: He's a good boy. He's actually been on TV before.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: He was in the USAA commercial with me. Oh, this
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: guy is a superstar.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: You know it's a superstar or interview who was brought
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: to us by bud Light. Bad Light is always brew
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: with four simple ingredients for clean Chris taste. Bud Light
• 18:26
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• 18:44
  Speaker 4: light dot com forward slash locator to find something near you.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the other thing is, though, easy
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: to drink, easy to enjoys to drink.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: He's enjoyed.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: There are some there's some French bulldog haters on this bus.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, who would that be?
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Sniff him out?
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: You're talking about yourself? No, yeah, you look like one
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: of those white Frenchies.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I got an English bulldog.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: At home, all right, that's like a French bulldog. That's
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the grandfather. Yeah, we're part of the bulldog world. Yeah. Yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: like I said, yeah, you do you look but go ahead,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: English bulldog a tough you can't.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I can't let you guys be talking up.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I don't hate Frenchies.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not opposed to him.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I'm a little bit opposed to him.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: So it's him.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, one one, So this is you're a guy. I'm
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: not a French.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: You guy.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: I think got a good coat on him.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: He's got good broad.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Shoulders, got a nice coat on the boy. Looks like
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: got a piece on him too.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: About these balls that haven't I haven't seen around Ralph
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: there is nickname is Ralph.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I don't want to make him uncomfortable, but yeah, yeah,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: good looking dog. I just.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good boy.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: This is a tough start to me in this podcast.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: You know, walk off the bus, bus driver, open up
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: the door. Ralph and I getting off. We're going for
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: a walk. Yeah, we're gonna have to think about this.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: We need to take a couple of deep prests.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Aren't these guys like made in the lab? Like, aren't
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: they like not?
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I know that that is one thing that they say
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: about it. I just kind of plugged my ears. When
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: people start.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: They got a lot of health issues too.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Right, a lot of health issues. But this guy, he
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: stays in top shape. But he's pretty healthy. It's crazy,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: but majority of them, I mean, for how healthy he is,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: it's still like a full time job just making sure
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: that he's healthy. But uh, you know, you got to
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: keep him active. If you don't keep them active, then
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: that's when all the health problems definitely really start.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Put them on the treadmill.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: There's their personalities are through their roof. They're like human beings.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: They're the best to be one on one with them.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: They're they're just so entertaining and loving.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: That's awesome having for you.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Thank you man, You're happy.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: That's it, bro, That's all I can do off the bus. Dude,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: let's talk about growing up.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: So you grew up in like Taylor he ran over
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: y yeah bah dah. So you group in Buffalo with me? Guy?
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I gave him a shot out, you know, a good
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: guy like.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Surgeon.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I had some you know, vitamins this morning, some na
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: D to make sure I'm clear minded. So thank you
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to Arete.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah in dude, Buffalo, you grew up in Buffalo. How
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: do you head the Tucson, Arizona?
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Was it dirt bas Uh?
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: It wasn't dirt bags, but it should have been dirt bags. Actually,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I'd never been to dirt bags before until I actually
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: went to the NFL, and then I was old enough.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: When I came back on a visit. Uh, after my
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: rookie year, I was twenty one, so I finally got
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to go to dirtbacks. I didn't hit any bars when no, no,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I really awed to. I mean, I would admit it
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: like no big deal. I didn't hit any bars. When
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I was at the University of Arizona. It was literally
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: all house parties or going to a frat party or
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: having our own house party, or just running around the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: streets just trying to get into a bar, but not
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: getting into the bar because I was, you know, never
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: of age. But so my brothers were getting recruited out
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: of high school. And my brother Chris, who's two years
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: older than me, well, first off, my dad's in the
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: business of selling fitness equipment. He's been in the business
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: for thirty five years now. And then he became best
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: friends with a guy named Donnie who did the same
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: thing as him, that was an alumni at the University
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: of Arizona but sold all his equipment in Arizona. So
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: then you know, they go on a work trip where
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Life Fitness brings everyone because they both sell Life Fitness products.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: And then what is it like a fitness convention and
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: then that's where they met and they became best friends.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: And then when we were all just kids, so the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: alumni Arizona was like, bring your kids out to Arizona.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I know the coaches, I'll get them, you know, I'll
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: try to get them a scholarship, show them the film,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: bring them out on a trip. Come on, we got
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to get it done. So I went on a trip
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: with my brother when he was a senior when he
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: went to the University of Arizona, and my dad was like, hey,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: you're up next in line, Like, come on the trip,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: see what it's all about to get recruited. Uh, And
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: then the University of Arizona was the very first cool
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I basically ever seen in my life, and I fell
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: in love with the place. My sophomore year in high school.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is a college. This is this
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: is ridiculous. I mean, it's ninety degrees, palm trees. We
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: went by a pool party and like, as a sophomore year,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: you know in high school, you're like home.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Market out in Arizona.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: This is ridiculous.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, those Arizona schools ASU, U of AS and the
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: nuts exactly.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: And then that's how that's how I got to University
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: of Arizona. I fell in love with it when I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: just tagged along with my brother on his recruiting trip,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and then they started recruiting me from there. After my
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: brother chose to go to the University of Maryland. Then
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: he actually transferred to the Universe of Arizona and played
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: with me there for two years, and he was the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: full back and I was a tight end and we
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: were on the field at the same time for a year,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: which was just super cool to have and just ball
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: out with my brother. So that's how I got there.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Long story show show.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: You were Were you highly recruited coming out of high school?
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a four star. I was in the
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Rivals top two, one hundred and fifty. I was like
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the fifth tight end on the board. He was. Fernandez
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: was actually number one. Really yeah, we were in the
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: same class. He was number one, and then there's a
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: couple in between. I forgot who they were, but they
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: never made it to the NFL, I don't think. But
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: it was, you know, it was, you know, the whole
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: entire recruiting process I went through. It was you know,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: enjoyable because my top four, you know were Ohio State, Clemson, Syracuse,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and Arizona, and everyone was just so surprised that I,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: you know, chose Arizona to go all the way out west.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: But I just fell in love with that place from
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the very beginning. Loved Clemson almost went there. That was
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: definitely number two. Ohio State, you know, they were recruiting me.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I kind of just took a visit there because it
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: was the Ohio State University, and I could definitely see
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: myself fitting in there, you know, I can can see
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: myself being a Buck guy. That's when Jim Trussell was
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the head coach too. The facilities were insane as well.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: And then Syracuse my dad went to, but the program
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: was just so on low at the time. Yeah, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I just kind of wanted to get out of the
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: state of New York. I didn't want to go back to,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: you know, basically home where I grew up in Buffalo,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: So Arizona was just a right thing.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Don't you have a legendary story from your Ohio State visit?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, I do.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: To where you were? What was it you were hungover?
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I was super hungover. So I was a senior. I
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: moved to Pittsburgh my senior year in high school, so
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: it was an easy trip, uh, to go over, you know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to Ohio State when they were recruiting me and then
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: all my friends for Buffalo. They were all older than
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: me and some of them went to the Ohio State University.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: So I took my official visit there and I went
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: out with my friends the night before the game and
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: they showed me around. We actually got in a fight,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: which wasn't surprising. That was my last time I basically brought.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I used to fight all the time when I was
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: a senior in high school because I was visiting my
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: brothers at the University of Maryland and they were just
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: bad ass motherfuckers, him and his roommates and they were
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: just brawl every weekend. I would show up and just joined, Hey, Rob,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: we want to go get this one in. We literally
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: walked from the bar and just trying to pick a fight.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: On the way home, I was running into people on purpose,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and then next thing you know, it was a five
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: on five brawl. I was getting thrown down a hill.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: My brother kicked the guy in the face. Next thing
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I know, I look up the hill and the guy's
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: falling down the hill. That threw me down the hill.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: But I got in a little fight. It wasn't that
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: big of a fight at the at the Ohio State
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: it was just a little, you know, scuffle and uh.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: But we had a good time. And the next morning
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: went to the game. I think that was Ohio State
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Versus I forgot who they were playing, but I was hurting.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Look at this guy, the guy in the bottom all
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: the waters and I have yea.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: All the wad Oho State. Did any of the staff
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: know that you had got in a fight the night before?
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: No, no, no clue, no clue. It wasn't that big
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: of a fight. It wasn't worth, you know, being in
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the news either. It wasn't newsworthy. It wasn't really Like
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: there's no like phones back then, which was the best time.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad none of that ship existed like when
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I was in college, Like it was an era of
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: like the South. The camera phones were just beginning when
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I was in college. But like that absolutely sucks to
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: be a superstar in college right now. You can't like
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: really live a college life because everyone has those camera phones.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: If you go out, you know, to a house party,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: you're's gonna be filmed. Like that's not cool at that age.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's suck.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: You really can't have that true college experience. And I
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: feel like I was that last era to be able
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: to do all the crazy shit without ever being on
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: like a cell phone or being like reported to Twitter.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Plus I wasn't as good as you know. I was
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: in the NFL as I was in college. I was
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: a good player, but it's not like you know, people
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: knew me like that. I could ride around you.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: But you chose to leave early.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I left early as well.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you got to be pretty damn good to
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: be able to enter your name into the dream.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Which sucked because I didn't even play my junior
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: year really yeah, which sucked. I was about the ball
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: out man. I was ready to go my junior year.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Nick Foles with our quarterback. We had a solid team.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: We went eight and four that year. My brother was
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to fall back as well, so it sucked. I complete
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: with my brother, my friends with Foles, we were bawling
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: spring game as well. I'd like eight catches for like
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: one hundred in the spring game and that was the
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: first time that we even played together, Foles and I.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: And then I just blew out my back. Bro. I
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: had that micro with the second me surgery where I
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: think it was just just going to ham in college lifting,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: doing all the other you know, extra activities as well,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: and then I just had a major bulging disc and
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I just kept going harder and harder on it, and
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: like the harder I went on it, the more numb
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: it would get. At that moment, and I was able
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: to go out to practice and lift, and then like
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: that night, I wouldn't be able to move, and the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: next day I would just go hard on it again,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and eventually I blew it out totally, like I couldn't
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: even feel my legs anymore when I was nineteen years old.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: And then it sucked because I had to get the
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: surgery that and then finally I was like, yo, my
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: back's fucked up. And then I even went out the
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: training camp and got open on an in route, ran
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: so slow, but the well it opened up, the defense
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: opened up, and I caught the pass, turned around like
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: one mile prour and I walked off the field. I
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: was like, yo, I'm fucked like and then we were
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: finally like, all right, let's get an MRI. And my
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: back was blown out. The disc was so hurt, neated
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: on the spinal court. And then eventually I got the
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: surgery and missed my junior year, which you know, if
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I could go back, that's one thing I would do,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: is if I wish I could replay my junior year
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: and play at the University of Arizona. But I still
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: left early, still left early.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Yes, had a good couple of first years.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Then I did what was crazy is my freshman year
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: going in, I had six touchdowns, you know, like five
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: hundred something yards. I was bawling. But then going into
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: my sophomore year, I was like, I'm ready to dominate.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of like the NFL. You know,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you're getting your feet wet. I didn't really know the
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: playbook that well, you know, adjusting to life, trying to
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: you know, do the dumb shit off the field as well,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: that was more important time it was. It was really
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: more important to me. I'm not gonna it was probably
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: just as important as football was to me. Was going
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: out and acting like an idiot, you know, rookie year
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: in the NFL and freshman year of college. I mean,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: you can't blame eighteen years old. Twentyyears old.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I had a place like U of A too.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: And then going into my sophomore I'm ready to dominate.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I get mono, I get monos somehow, and I'm like.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: And I had to miss the first three games because
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: they's like, oh, your spleen's blown up, you know you
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: gotta miss So I missed three games my sophomore year.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: True sophomore year, came back and played like what is
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: it you missed three was twelve games and the season
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: played nine games, had like ten touchdowns and balled out.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: And then we went to the Las Vegas Ball which
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: was which was my last game I played at the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: University of Arizona. And that was the year my brother
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and I played together and he had a great game.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I only had like, you know, twenty yards that bowl game,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: but we won. It was the first bowl game that
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the University of Arizona even went to in ten years,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and we won it. And then that was my last
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: last game as a Wildcat. But overall, I played sixteen
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: games in college and had sixteen touchdowns as an eighteen
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: year old, and nineteen.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Year old is awesome.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: So I had enough film to get me, you know,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: afted in the second round.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: When you had the bulging discs and you got the
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: MRI and like you can't even fill your legs. Did
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: you think at any point that your career was over?
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I sure did. Actually I went and uh, actually
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I was lucky enough. I had an insurance policy. My
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: dad got me an insurance policy going in my junior
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: year because I was you know, I was kind of
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: highly rated, you know that I could get drafted that
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: year in like the top three rounds. So I had
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: an insurance policy and I could have cashed out on
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: it actually because they were saying I had spinal dunosis.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: What is it spinal? I wouldn't I wouldn't know spinal
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: what's that word snosis? I'm saying dun nosis, spinal stunnosis,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: And like my spines curved and there was a lot
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: of question marks on my back and they were like, oh,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Like the insurance company was like, hey, you can never
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: play football again if you get that policy, and I
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: was like, I was like fuck that, I'm playing football.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: That was my ultimate dream. I always wanted to be
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. I'll just work through this. But at
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: some points trying to come back because that was my
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: first surgery, like I couldn't really get that pop back
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: because you lose that pop because the spinal corp is
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: completely shut down, and like to get that pop, to
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: get that explosive on this back. I was training. I
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: left early. I was training for the combine, and right
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: before the combine I didn't even participate in the combine
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: because at that time I didn't even have that pop still,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Like I couldn't even broad jo you just.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Played high school football basically the.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: NFL, and then finally boom, I got it back. And
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: then uh, you know, I kind of understood the recovery
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: process and all that, and then I was finally like,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: all right, I can play again. I got this. But
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: there was a little point like, man, I might not
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: ever be able to play again because like you know that,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: you know, you've never been through that experience, you know.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: So I'm glad I got over that fear and over
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: that stage because everything worked out, didn't year, No, not
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: not one snap, you know, the.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Last game of him officially like as a as a
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: wildcat Nebraska.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: No, that was the year I didn't play. Brother, Was
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: that a show? Were you on that team?
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I was a freshman, you were a freshman.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: So that was the year I didn't play the hollyball.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: We got smacked by you guys. You had gotten the
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: dominicant sue at the time. He went what number two
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: overall that year. But that was the year I got hurt.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: And if I didn't get hurt, we would have watched
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: your ass, brother, but I think we actually we would.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Have been Yeah, dude, that yeah, nothing, yeah, thirty three
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: to nothing.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I was chilling, chilling. Yeah, you guys are chilling when
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: you're I mean I was, I was young. Yeah, you
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: us what you're a red shirting.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: This was my freshman red shirt year. Got you not
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: my red shirt, not my red shirt year, but my
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: second year.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: You re freshman year.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was bad. We got wamped. I was there,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: though I was there, I didn't play that whole year. Man.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: It sucked. It sucks not playing, dude. Yeah, you're just
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: staying there.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: It's fast.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Was I was standing on.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: It's fascinating to me that he got draft in the
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: second round and he only played sixteen games in college
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: and he had back surgery, and I had all these
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: question marks about it been going up to the combine,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: like in the pre draft process.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: And it didn't even participate at the combine. I did
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the bench press, got twenty three.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: And didn't you didn't he fall asleep in a draft interview?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, with the Patriots. Bill Yeah, Bill told this story
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: plenty of times. This story's been talking about plenty. But
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I was so tired, man, because you know that draft process.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's the stupidest process as well. Like you
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: go from team to team, it's like you're on fifteen
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: flights in like fifteen days getting interviewed by all these teams,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: and the Patriots were my last one, and I was exhausted.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I fell asleep like the first ten minutes I got
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: there in the room that they put me in there
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: like hey, we'll be right back, and I fell asleep
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: on the spot when they came back in to check
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: on me. And then I also bombed the interview process,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: but like bombed it in the best way possible.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Something in the best way possible, all right, Like.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: For example, they drew a play on the board, Billy oh,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and he's in then he raced it. He's like, draw
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the play? What you got? What does everyone have? And
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: it was one of the hottest plays. It's still a
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: route that I still don't even understand, olpak. It's like
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: the receiver goes up and down back like a comeback,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: and then he goes takes off again and he makes
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: another comeback something you know way.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: But it was like the longest progressive play way above.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: My you know, my skill set. I don't run routes
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: like that. I don't stop go stop too big to
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: stop and going. I was like what so he's like
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: redraw the whole play, and I was like, brother, like
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I'm stuck, like I like ground zero. I'm at like
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: and I was like, you know something, They'll just throw
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: me the fucking boss still. Like like I was like that,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: like that type of interview, like you just say this
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: is so that I would just come up with an
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: insane answer like.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: That, yeah, just throw me the ball. Still.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: That's all I know.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Did were you ever like nervous for these coaches because
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: they have that kind of hey, just throw me the
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: ball anyway, It just screams confidence.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I was never really nervous because like.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Standing up at the whiteboard with the marker in hand,
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: trying to think, like ship, what was the play drew?
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: And then just like hey.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: You get a double comeback. He's just talking about like I'm.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Gonna be honest, I don't remember.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: But I was cashed out though. It was like my
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: fifteen visit and like the last fifteen days, I was
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: cashed out.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: And what were you You said you had fifteen visits.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Of all the visits, like which one did do the best?
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: It was probably about like eight visits or so fifteen
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: was a little exaggerated like eight, but at fifteen including
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the Combine. Yeah, I've met with fifteen teams there, but
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you know, I felt like they all went really smooth.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: You know, I was on point with them all. You know.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals one, I was. I really wanted to
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: be on point because we all knew that they were
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: going to draft a tight end first round and then
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: they took Jermaine Gresham, but they were interviewing me like crazy.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Now they had the twenty first pick. I felt like
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I smacked everything right on the money with all the questions,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: my interviews at the Combine. I felt like I did
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: a great job and everything, but just overall just bombed
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: the New orleand Patriots one like bombed it, like in
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: the worst way possible. Like I said, like I like
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: when Billy Ull and Bill described how the official visit
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: was or it's not the official visit that's in high school.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: The interview visit went. But uh, you know, and also
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: at the time, like there's so many players getting in
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: trouble in the NFL, and I remember I called my brother,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, fuck this, I want to act like
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a complete idiot. I feel like it gets you like
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: more chances, you know, because there was like five guys
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: that were just arrested and they were signing big deals
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, they're like, oh, that's a good
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: way to think about it and look at it. Use
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: that theory, rob go.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: And it worked.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: It worked. Jones was getting arrested all the time.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a crazy time.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he signed a big deal and I
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it was like, if you freaking act
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: like a fucking insane motherfucker, you're going to get picked up.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: So it's crazy.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I want the interview process like that. And it worked.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: You gotta be you gotta be nuts. You got to
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: be tapped in order to play in the NFL as well.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: I think I think it depends in the position. Depends
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: on the position. Like if you're a d end, a
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: tight end, like wide receivers and corners, they have their
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: own cocky personalities or stereotypical cocky personalities. Quarterbacks, I feel
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: like you have to be composed, calm, confident individuals, but yeahschoic,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: like the psychotic tight end. Yeah, the psychotic tight end
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: is you made a name for the for the brand
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: you you you walked so that George Kittles could run
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: because you've got a whole bunch of different guys now
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: here crushing.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: He's got paid big time again.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's got paid. Yeah, thirty one getting paid like that,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: well deserved. He's got a lot left. We're up this
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  Speaker 4: pants down Back to this episode. So when you're you're
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: at the draft, first round goes by, were you like
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: upset at all? Or were you like we knew this was
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: a possibility.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: No, I was upset. It's my mom says that there's
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: two times in my life that she's ever seen me upset.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I forgot the second time. We got to give her
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: a call if she told me I would remember, like
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: it would be like that, but she's And the other
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: time was not getting drafted in the first round. While
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I was at the draft in New York.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: City, Did you have all the cameras rounds you and everything.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Not?
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Really, you know, it wasn't really expected for me to
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: go in the first round. It was the first time,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I like to say this, I was infamously, you know,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: drafted as the first player going to New York as
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the first player getting drafted at the draft in the
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: second round. So that's how I look at it, as
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I started that trend. If you go to the draft,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: it's fine that you get drafted in the second round. Still,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I was the first player to that to ever have
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: that happen to But there was also other ones after
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: me as well that year that got drafted in the
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: second and third round. But you know, I was ticked off.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I felt like I deserved to go in the first
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I was always a goal of mine. But after I
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: got picked by the New England Patriots in the second
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: round and they traded up for me, I thought that
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: was really cool getting traded up for like, you know,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: it's unique and like you feel special about that. Situation.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: But once I got drafted, man, I didn't care one
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: single bit anymore that you know, I wasn't a first rounder.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: It was it was a blessing and it was one
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: of the best feelings of all time that you know,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: could ever happen to you.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Knowing that the expectation wasn't necessarily for you to go
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: in the first round. What made you decide to still
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: go to like New York and be potentially around the
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: cameras and everything when it's it's a possibility that you
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: might not go in the first round.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I didn't really look at it as like, oh,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I got to be a first rounder because they drafty.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: They actually brought in a lot of other players as
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: well that were expected to go in the second round.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't like I was gonna, you know, feel
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable there, gotcha. So there was like five other players
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: that didn't get drafted. Again, it was its first year, like, hey,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: we want first rounders and second rounders at the draft.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: We want to expand it. We want to show the inside,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: you know, for both rounds, not just the top ten picks.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: So they expanded how many players they invited to the draft,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: and it was about like twenty five guys there, so
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: like twenty five guys aren't going in the first round.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: That's too hired to be able to balance at to
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: know who's going where. So I didn't care. I thought
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: it was cool. And being you know, twenty years old,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: you know, you look for the spotlight then, you know,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: and whenever you're going to invite, you take it. You
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: know at that age. Now these days you pick and choose,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: like I got to go do that in front of
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: the camera, You're like, ah, whatever, you know, but when
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: you're twenty years old, you love all those moments. You're
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: never saying no at twenty years old. So I was
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: definitely not going to say no to that situation. And
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: you know, being at the draft, you know that as
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: a kid, that's all you look forward to, you know,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: watching all the players get drafted, like that could be me.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I just got the invite, you know, I wasn't not
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: going to guys standing up there a hole in the
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: jersey shaking Goodell's hand exactly.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: That's badass.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: It's awesome. Did you did you plan the celebration that
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: you do with your family, because it is it's got
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: to be number one.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: It is epic and you know it's still talked about
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: to this day. Definitely, But that's just how we were,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: you know. You know, that's how we party at the
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: University of Arizona. We got around, who are I jump
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: up and down, get rowdy, all that good stuff, and
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: whenever we get together as a family, it was just
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: bringing all the energy and juice to the table. So
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: we knew we were going to be celebrating, but not
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to the extent of like putting the helmets on, putting
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: my hand down versus my brother, you know, getting in
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: a circle and hooing all over the place. So that
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: was just on the spot right there. That was cool.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: It was good man.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: You talked about comparing like saying that you're off the
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: field life was just as important to you as on
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: the field. Was that How long did that carry into
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: your NFL career?
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I would say just a couple of years. I mean
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I started realizing that football, you know, is definitely number
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: one in my life, and that football, you know, needs
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: to be number one. Like I can't be putting football aside.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I can't be putting the training aside just because I
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: want to go out hang out with the friends be
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: busting with the boys, and you know at whatever college
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I'm visiting my buddies at because I left college early,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: so after my rookie year, all my friends were still
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: in college, you know. So I'm visiting Miami, Ohio, which home.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: My gosh, going out there. That place is crazy, rocking bro.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I got my jersey up at Brick Street still. I mean,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I'm a legend there. I'm visiting pool parties. Look at
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: those pictures. So I'm going Ham. At least I'm going
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: so Ham. I was getting exercise while I was going Ham.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I was staying in shape. I was burning at least
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: a thousand to two thousand calories just dancing the three
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: four hour period of going out. But I realized that
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: football has to be number one, though, and football is
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: going to sustain that, you know, the extra activities as well.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: And so if I keep the football, you know, activities
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: and football all you know, skills at the highest level,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: everything else is always going to be there. I learned
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: that about two three years into the league.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: What made you come to this realization? Was it a
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: conversation with the teammate, just s, family members, your.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Experience of showing up the football and being deteriorated and
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: sucking and being out of shape and wind ind the
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: puke and feeling like every single one of your muscles
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: are gonna spas them out there on the field or
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: pull and like yeah, it's like miserable and you're like, yeah,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't be out here right now. And you got
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: to work your way through it because you got to
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: show that you know, you're doing the proper things. You know,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: But when when you hit you know, real life, when
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: you hit that realization on the field of it's not
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: going well, you know, that's when you know you got
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: to tune things up and you got to change whatever
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: whatever you're doing. I mean, I'm sure you experienced that
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: before at least once or twice.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Did your realization that football has to be the main thing? Yeah,
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: oh absolutely. Everyone has pretty young for me, because you
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: know they're hearing about the stories that you have. I
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: just I think in my head, like, I don't know
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: how I would function as an athlete in college if
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: I like my night life was just right there. I
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: put as much into my night life as I did football,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: So I feel like it just wouldn't I don't know,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: I feel like it genetically it wasn't. It wouldn't have
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: worked for me.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Well, hearing the way you talk about it, it sounds like
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: you were like practicing and then after practice you're like, Okay,
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: what are we going to do tonight? And for me,
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: like I have partied a lot in college in my
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: first couple of years in the NFL, but it was
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: always to me like I'd act like in my brain,
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, I'm not going to go out this weekend.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: Then accidentally, all of a sudden, I'd It'd be two
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: am on a Saturday and I'd be up at Losers
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: or Rick's American Cafe in Ann Arbor. It seemed like
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: you were like, I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna work
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: really hard at football so I can go party and
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: get the most out of that.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: There we go. That's exactly how it went, no doubt
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: about it. And also going out in the party, it
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: wasn't you know, throughout the week. It was only one
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: night a week, or maybe possibly two nights a week
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: during the off season. It wasn't an everyday thing. If
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: it wasn't every night thing, then I would definitely never
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: be where I am right now. So I always put
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: that work into and then sometimes we're in the weight
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: room and we would work harder. We would be pushing
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: each other harder because we'd be like, hey, you got
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: to look Jack tonight. You know you got extra you know,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: twenty crunches, extra minute on the plank, you know, extra
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: set of the bench press. So that motivated you. That
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: got you to where you needed to get to because
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: then you felt like you deserve to go out that
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: night too. So, uh, you know it was always in
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: back of the mind. Uh, but it wasn't like, you know,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: a daily thing. If it was a daily thing, I've
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: seen players go through the daily thing where they're going out,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: you know, throughout the week too. And I always knew
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: too as a kid, even in college, I'm like, no,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: I ain't touching that during the week. I ain't going
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: out during the week. I need my sleep, you know,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: I need I need to go to classes obviously, I
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: need to be ready for practice. And then I always
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: actually did it when I always knew I had basically
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: had off next day as well. Yeah, sometimes in the
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: younger generation era, you know, you would do it with
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: practice till the next day at like ten am or
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: eleven and you would just fight your you know, fight
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: your life through it. But majority of the time I
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: would know I would have off next day as well
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: to recover, rehydrate and all the good stuff. So I
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: was I did all the all the stupid shit the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: smartest way possible.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: I feel that, Yeah, you grind it through it. Even
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: in workout. It's like if I would be hungover, Like
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: I remember a couple times where I'd be hungover, you
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: try to have a late night and you work out
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: the next day, and when I felt like I was
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: on the verge of throwing up or my body feeling
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: the way it did, it'd be like when you're on
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: a knee listening to your coach talking, I'm just thinking
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: in my head, I got it, i can't do this, Yeah,
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: I can't like continue.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: I guess that's yeah, that's always the second guess, because
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: when you go out, you're like, this is gonna be awesome,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: and then when you're a peak drunk.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: You're like, I'm gonna power through tomorrow. I'm gonna absolutely
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: crush it.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: And the minute you get wake up the next day,
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: I can never do that again. Yeah, But then it
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: goes like it's Monday, you're like, I'm not drinking. I'm
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: living my life like a saint. Now Tuesday comes by,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: you're like just a good old boy. Wednesday, it's like,
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: you know, Friday is right around the corner and it
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: is a lot of fun. Thursday is like, all right,
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: one more weekend and then we're solid. And then all
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, it's Friday, Saturday, and then Sunday you're like,
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: all right, yes, just had that timeline, perfect, dude, because
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: that's what it is. You always have, Like the Sunday scariers.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: You were like you've rethought your entire life, and you're like,
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: this is it. This is the day I changed who
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: I really am, and then by Friday you're back to
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: being the same fucking person over and over again. I
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: can't imagine that first offseason you had after your first
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: year in the NFL, because because in college, it's like
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: back when you played, it was you have like a
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: week off at most, right, two weeks if you don't
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: make a bowl game.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Well. The best thing about it, too, was it was
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: the lockout, so we weren't even allowed to have an
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: off season that year, So I had a true six
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: months of just doing whatever I wanted to do.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: So I was Milichick his pants.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: He really was. And that's when like kind of like
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: videos were starting to service on the Internet of me.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I was back at the University of Arizona with the
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: basketball players at a pool party, just going ape shit.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I was visiting my friends, like you said, in college Miami, Ohio.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I got to bring that place up again. I'm telling you,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: a spectacular place if you're a young buck. Just the
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: atmosphere that that's presented there is just phenomenal, h and
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: just everything else. I learned what Vegas was that year
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: as well, after my rookie year. But this is like
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I never had one. I never had the responsibility of
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: going back in training, you know, up in New England
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: because we were locked out. We weren't allowed back there
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: for the whole six months. And then I ended up though,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: showing up and absolutely balling and training camp and having
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: my breakout season where I scored like twenty one touchdowns
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: including the playoffs, and like broke every record as a
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: tight end. So I guess I can contribute it to
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: all my dancing and all my party because I was moving.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about my stamina was up there. I was
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: staying loose, you know, just jiggling everything on my body,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: just every type of motion you could possibly think of,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: tworking to the extreme powers, like I swear, that's what
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: got me through. Was just NonStop movement. You know you
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: do the lifting. You know, they say you got to
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: have that base, like you know, the foundation of like
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: your core of being loose, flexibility and stamina of the
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: little muscles firing. And that's what got me the you know,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: keep everything firing at a proper rate. Was all the
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: dancing and all the movements throwing your friends up in
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: the air on top of lifting as well. Yeah, when
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: did you? Right? I swear, though I swear, I mean
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I don't really do that really. I like try to
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: go out and like I dance for like five minutes,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, how the fuck was I dancing for
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: three hours straight? Like I can dance for five minutes.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Now I'm like all right, Like I can't dance any
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: longer anymore.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: When did you realize that your party and your antics
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: could become like a massive brand, Because now you have
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: like grounk Beach, your brother you and your brothers. You
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: did the cruise, so you have you have so many
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: things that are revolved around a lot of things that
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: used to get you in trouble. When did that transition
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: happen where you're like, oh, I can actually make money
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: doing this?
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Uh? You know, it kind of just happened naturally as well.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: It wasn't like I was doing it as like a
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: scheme or a play or you know, to get like
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: notoriety from it. Not at all. Man. I was just
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: being myself. What what I've been doing since, you know,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: my college days and going into the NFL. It wasn't like,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: you know, anything was planned ever. I was just doing me.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: And then it just kept blowing up sometimes. And that's
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: why I just kept doing me, because I'm like, I'm
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: just doing me, like I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: just having fun, you know. And then I really noticed
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: a couple of years into it, like all right, like
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: this is starting to become something because wherever I went,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: people expected it, you know, and it was cool. It
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: was cool as shit. It was like, all right, I'm
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: going out, it's going to be so turned up. But
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: you have the energy when you're in the twenties as
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: well to turn up the whole entire place. Get on
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: the bar, give everyone shots, all that good stuff, and
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I noticed that, you know, it could possibly be a brand,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Like it's working, even though I'm just being myself. It's working.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: It's blowing up, you know. At the same time, though,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I always knew that balling on the field was what
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: the real accelerator was, was what the engine was, was
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: balling on the field, because like, this guy's absolutely fucking
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: balling on the field, but he's going out with all
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: the fans as well and just having a good time
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: and going ham And then you know, eventually though, I
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: kind of got over that kind of stigma, you know,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: because it was hard, you know, in your mid twenties
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: easily with the energy to keep up with it. But
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: when I was starting to fade on the football field,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: that was becoming hard off the field too, because I
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: was starting to back away from it big time because
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: football was, you know, starting to get away from me,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: and I didn't want football to get away from me.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: So I knew I had to start changing my lifestyle
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: big time. So I would start picking and choosing when
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I'm going out, how much I'm going out then, and
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: all that good stuff, because I wanted, you know, to
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: be on top of my game for football and now
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: to this day. You know, it is a brand, you know,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: like a party brand, it really is. But I'm not
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: even close to partying how I was partying back in
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: the day, that twenty year old me, you know, got
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: that brand to sustain all the way to this day.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: That's how ham I was going though back then. Yeah,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: that's how much I was balling in the field. So
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: you know, it's cool, like throwing grunk beach, I just
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: pick and choose. Now, like grunk beach, I'll go hand,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: but not like how I used to. You know, I
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: don't want to drink as much as I used to either.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: It's it's not good for you. It is poison. You know.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: I can't work out the next day. It takes three
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: days to recover. I'm really into health, you know now,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: and and in fitness obviously I've been my whole life.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: But uh just I'm always in for a good time.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: But I'm more of the guy now you know that
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: likes to look like laid back and watch what's going
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: on and join a little bit of the action, but
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: you know, not going too crazy, not.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: Like your young self. What were the what we're like
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: the coaching moments like with somebody like Bill Belichick. You
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: talk about how like the Patriot way, how strict he was,
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: how meetings could run like in the early days before
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: it becomes a brand. Are there any moments you're having
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: in the facility with Coach Belichick before it like becomes
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: a distraction or hey, your brand or being more than
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: the team. Was there like a transition there? Because obviously,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: when you become drunk and you're the man, you guys
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: are winning super Bowls, it's a lot more accepted because
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: you know you're the man the Patriots are. You guys
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: are winning football games. But in the early years, when
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: you're coming back in these videos are surfacing, Is there
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: anything happening in meetings with Coach Bill.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing I always knew if I showed up
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: and balled, I would be in good hands, still be
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: in good faith with the coaching staff, and Coach Belichick
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: let a lot of things go. If you were bawling
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: on the field, he didn't care if you were out
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: all night and showing up. As long as you produce
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: on that football field, he let everything go. It was fine.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: But the second you started dropping off, oh shit, you
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: didn't want to be there. You didn't want to be
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: in that meeting. You're getting called out. You're going to
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: have a one on one meeting like hey, mother, Like
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: what the fuck are you doing? I see you out,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Like you can't even you know, come out to practice
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: and get open versus our undrafted free agent. Like so
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: he would let you know, and he would eventually let
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: you know in front of the team too, he would
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: call you out. So that's why, like you always had
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: to be on point when you enter that facility. And
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: that's why I believe that going to that destination, you know,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: kept me on the grind too, Like yeah, the nightlife
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: and whatever you were doing outside of football, but the
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: second you stepped in that building, like you had that
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: motivation in that grind like oh fuck, Like I got
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: to absolutely dominate because I was out. Everyone saw it.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: And if I don't produce on this field, oh fuck,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a bad day for me. So
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: that kind of got you to that level mindset like
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: that you got a ball.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Did you ever have a moment with Bill where he
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: had to check you in a one on one or
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: a team meeting?
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Not really, So Julian and I we went out Memorial
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Day weekend to narraganinstt No Not Narro, garratt It, Nantucket,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Naragainst's and Rhode Island. We went out to Nantucket for
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: for Gawie weekend. We got absolutely, you know, hammered. We
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: were out of a golf cart. We're in the back,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Julian and I doing our thing, and the golf cart
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: lifted up in the air the front tires and we
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: landed on the ground and it was a video that
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: surfaced the internet and it was classic. And I remember
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: the next day or three days later, we go to
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: whatever OTAs running rounds and Bill came up to us
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: and we were outing all over please get all that
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: fucking ship out of your system. I saw you too,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: idiots this weekend. You guys are fucking fools. Keep running,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: get it all out of you. So we were balling
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: though we were out there. But Coach always got you
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: to that mindset hungover and not feeling so good when
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: you hit that field. That just the aura in New
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: England that got you to that mindset of whatever fuck
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: is in your system, however you feel get yeah, you
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: better not feel that way. It's gonna get it's gonna
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: get you over it when you hit that field right there?
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Is that?
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: It is that the golf cart? Yeah, right there there
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: we are to oh the back of the golf cart broke.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: That's not good. This is like two months before the season,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: is it really? But Justin Timberlake loved it because that
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: was the same night we were, Yeah, right there, we
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: were dancing to a song. This is the same night
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: we were dancing to a song gotta feel it. Yeah,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: got a feeling and we were rocking out. And then
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: he tweeted that, Yeah, the same night ladies to groc
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: get a playboy. So shout out to Justin timber That's
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: what I knew, all right, I gotta keep going. You
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: see those dance moves. Now you see why I was
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: getting out there. You're staying loose. Look at shimminging all
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: over the place.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: At that what is it the shuffle? You got something
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: going there for sure. You talk about the aura of
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: New England those first couple of years, Like what was
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: it like for you picking up the playbook? Understanding everything
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: and knowing like what Tom wanted? Like how demanding was
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: Tom on you when it came to the playbook and
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: stuff like that?
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Bro, That's why I didn't play like my first eight
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: games because I didn't really know the playbook like that.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: I had the skills, I had the talent, you know,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: but they didn't trust me. I even had some great
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: you know highlights in the preseason that year. I had
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: like three touchdowns drag blauring nights into the end zone.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: You like I showed some talent, Like I showed some bursts.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: I showed like what the type of player I could be. Uh.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: But then like practice would come still and I would
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: be fucking up tremendously, Like I would have five great
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: plays and I would have five terrible plays. I'd be
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: blocking the wrong guy, I'd be running the wrong route.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: And when you're at that level, no matter how good
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: you are, if they can't trust in you doing the
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: right thing, well you're not going to play in New England.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck how good you are. They're
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: not gonna play you. And they let me know that.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: And the first eight games I only had about fifteen
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: to twenty snaps per game I was playing, And it
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: would only be the true plays that they would trust
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: in me. They say, hey, here's the twenty plays that
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: you know we trusting you with these twenty plays, we'll
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: call you in personnel when we're gonna call these plays.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I do like twenty plays a game. And then all
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm bawling though I'm still showing that potential,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: you know, and they're like you, we're not putting you
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: out on that fucking field until like we can truly
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: trust in you. Same with Tom, you know, coaching staff, Billy,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: oh Bill. And then finally, like I was struggling because
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: the playbook was totally different from college. At college, I
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: lined up on the right every single play. I had
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: like five routes, you know, we had like five blocking plays, run,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: place and kaboom in the playbook. And one day, I mean,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: you get to New England. You got a playbook like that,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: you got fifty five different formations. I gotta line up
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: on the left, I gotta line up and slot. There's
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: fifty different calls in the run game. I'm likeel fifty
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: different calls in the run game. Arizona, we had five
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: different run calls, you know. Yeah, so I couldn't get
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: up the pace. And then finally, like week eight, Week
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: a nine, all of a sudden, just everything clicked, you
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: know that feeling when you're like, okay, I got this.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I know everything in the playbook. Not everything, but like
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: I got I know enough now. And then I was
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: showing them on the practice field like hey, I'm consistent.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Now I'm bawling like I'm doing the right things. And
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: then I'll play. You know, I talked about plenty of times.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: There There was a play versus Chicago Bears versus Arlacker
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: that I had to body him up and I did
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: it in practice on Friday, and they're like, we're gonna
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: call this play and you got you better be ready
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: for it. And then it was versus Arlac. I had to,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: you know, get big on him in the end zone,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: one yard into the into the end zone, turn on him,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: use my body and the boom there as a ball.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Did it in practice, replicated in the game versus Iarlacker
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: box box him out. Uh, Tom put the ball right
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: there and I caught it. And ever since then, the
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: trust just went through the roof and I played every
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: single play after that. So the playbook, you know, I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: to you rookies out there, get in the playbook. That's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: the first thing. It doesn't matter how good you are
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: if you don't know the plays. If you're thinking on
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: the field, you're not going to play. You're not going
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: to be the best player that you could possibly be.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: So get in the playbook and know those plays right
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: from the beginning.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: What was Tom Brady like through these growing pains your
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: rookie year?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: He was an asshole in my rookie year. He really was.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: He was like mister Bill Belichick's son at that time.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: He was mister Patriot at that time. But and he
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: was on my ass though. But you know, I see why, though,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: you know, I really see why he saw the potential
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: in me too. I remember one time I ran a
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: flag route and he always wanted me to go outside
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: of the defender, and like I didn't have the fluidity
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: to get outside of him when he was like two
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: yards outside of me and try to get open. So
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: I always try to go right inside of him, make
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: a little move and try to get open the flag
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: route even though he's playing outside. And he's like, I'm
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: never gonna throw you the fucking ball. Actually, I'm never
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: throwing you the ball ever again. He said that in
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: the meeting room after I went inside on the flag round.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: But he told me five times already to get outside
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: at least show them I'm trying to get outside. But
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like it was too hard for me at that time,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Like I couldn't comprehend it, you know, the way that
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: my body was moving. I just couldn't do it. And
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: then after he said that, then that kind of clicked
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: in me too, like, oh, fuck, I gotta really try
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: to show him that I'm getting outside and just just
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: have a quarterback to be that hard on you at
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: the beginning though as a young buck, you know, it
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: can definitely deteriorate you a little bit. But he saw
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: all that potential because then right after he would say
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: something like that, Yo, stay after me with practice. Let's
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: fucking let's let's run this route twenty times. Let's get
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: you on the same page. You have to finally click.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I'm going to keep going until you click. So he
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: was really really hired on me. But I see why,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: and I respect it to the highest tea. And I'm
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: so glad that he was that hired on me as well,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: because we would have never gotten to the page and
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: the chemistry that we were at if he wasn't that
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: hired on me. And that's what makes him probably you know, well,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: the greatest player of all time because it wasn't his
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: skill set, you know, it wasn't his ability to do
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: you know, what he does on the football field. It
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: was it was also the ability to bring the best
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: out of his teammates around him. Win this episode to
• 1:02:29
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• 1:02:32
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• 1:02:34
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• 1:02:48
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• 1:02:51
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• 1:02:59
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• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: to this episode with Tom. It seems like his two
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: main guys throughout his career were like you and Edelman,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: or just like kind of like his core guys all
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: the time. At what point did you feel like, all right,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: I'm really in Tom's pack because a guy like that,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: of that superstardom, Dayton Models marrying the models, like he
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: seems like he's like one of the first guys in
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: the NFL to'll be like above the NFL. And for
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: you to be like in that group with him, was
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: there like a moment where you're like, Okay, I'm I know,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: I'm Tom's guy now.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Kind of that moment. You know, my rookie year, you know,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: I felt like I got in the pack, like after
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: that play versus Earl, but I wasn't truly in it yet.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: You know, we had Wes Welker as well. I mean
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Randy Moss you know, just got traded in my rookie year,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: so he was in that pack as well. Dan Branch
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: got traded back, like he was in that pack even
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: though he left for a little bit with the Seahawks.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: We had a couple other players as well that I
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: could see that he truly trusted and that he truly
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: looked to. And I would say I truly enter. That
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: was my second year when I bloss him, and that
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: was my absolute goal as well. We talked about, yeah,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: having that lockout, but in me going hand for six
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: months straight, but also in back of my mind, football
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: was always there, and I always wanted to be the greatest.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: And I remember calling my agent, Drew Roadshouse. I said,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the greatest fucking tight end this season.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Watch and he's like, okay, I mean, he's like, you
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: got Antonio Gage, you got Jason Wait, And I'm like, now,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: I'm telling I'm gonna be the greatest tight end this year.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: And like I had that as a mindset and I'm
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: gonna be on the same page as Brady. I get
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: what he wants now. And then going into that training camp,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: everything was just clicking and I entered that pack of
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: that trust because I get that trust from Brady and
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: the coaching staff. You have to be a consistent fucking player.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: I don't care. You can show a burst of going
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: deep and making an amazing play, but if you can
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: do that one out of every ten, I mean, you're
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: not in that pack. You're not going to have that trust.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: So I showed that trust going into my second year,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: and then that's when it just all truly started clicking
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: and it lasted for ten more years straight.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: How did that was? It? Always respect from Tom when
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: he's hard on you in those moments like your rookie year.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: Are you thinking, like, Yo, this dude's a fucking asshole.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: I thought he was, well, you're kind of resistant to like, hey,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: let's stay up to practice, do twenty reps, and you're
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: just like, fuck man, all right.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: I thought he was an asshole for sure at first.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm telling you it was mister Patriot, my
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: rookie year, like like he was. He was Bill two
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: point zero. I swear, like, I'm like, man, this guy
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: zero fun zero fun like zero like. But but I
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: kind of understood it at the same time, not to
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: the full extent, you know, but.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Once you're in this, like once you're in, you're growing,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: you're progressing, you're getting better. You're thinking, all right, this
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: is this is where I need to kind of bum yes.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: And then once I bought in too, he loosened up
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: as well, Like he just wanted me to buy in
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: and get rid of all that bullshit that was going
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: on on the outside, or me not pay attention in
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: the meetings, or me not doing what I need to
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: do out in the football field, because he saw it
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: in me like he sees he sees potential in players.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: He knows players inside and out, like he can watch
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: film Tom he can break down a player's strength, he
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: can break down their weakness. He can break down how
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: to get open versus what you got to do. He
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: can even break down a defensive lineman like and know
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: their strengths and how to block a defensive lineman. He
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: knows the game of football like that, and that's what
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: makes it made him so great obviously. So he knew
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: what I needed to do out in the football field.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: And when I started finally doing it, when it started
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: clicking to me and I was starting to truly understand,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: that's when that relationship really blossomed, and he, you know,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: he was less hard on me. I mean still to
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: this day, he's hard on his players. I mean even
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: once you get that relationship going, because he wants that
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: relationship to keep building, you know. But it wasn't like
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: my rookie year. You know, every rookie year was tough
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: at some points. But I saw why, and I'm I'm
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: so blessed and I'm so thankful that he was like that.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: I needed it. Put it that way, I needed it.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: How hard was were they on Julian Edelman. I just
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: listened to Bill Belichick on the pivot and it seems
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: like they were extremely harder. Coach Belichick was extremely hard
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: on Julian when he got to New England.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: Well, he was a year before me, so I didn't
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: really see his rookie year like that.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: Dog.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: It's a good boy though, he knows where we're a
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: good boy working. You feel safe, Yeah, he feels safe.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: He's just relaxing. That's a good boy right there. So
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: but later on, if we keep going, he'll eventually let
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: us know like, hey, hey, motherfucker humans, Hey, motherfucker humans,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: it's my turn, throw me the ball. But he's a
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: good boy. But Julian was absolute dog and they love
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: getting under his skin. If you got under Julian's skin,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: it brought the best out of them. And I would
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: say same with myself, you know, And that's why they're
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: hired on players there. Coach Belichick knew how to get
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: him play into players' minds, even if it was in
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: the most asshole way.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: That's why we respected so much and we appreciate it,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: you know, to this day. Because he was really trying
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: to make you the best fucking player that you could
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: possibly be, and he was trying to bring the best
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: out of you, and he sure did it, even though
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: whatever way he was doing it, you know, it could
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: have been vicious. You know, it could have been like, yo,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I'm about to trade you. Like he could have just
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: been making it up and then you would go absolutely balls,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: you know, out in the practice field and the games.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: So he knew how to bring the best out of players,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: especially the ones that he knew wanted it, and Julian
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: was a guy that wanted it, and he brought the
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: best out of Julian and whatever techniques he was doing
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: to get under Julian's skin.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: Dude, you I mean obviously, receiving wise as where you
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: get paid, it's probably the most fun for you. But
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: from a blocking standpoint, you see so many clips of you,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: like throwing a chip bock on trail sucks and then
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: sending them into the bleachers that the safety from the
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: Colts on the goal line sitting him all the way
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: to the sidelines, tell me him no white T shirts
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: in the club. Where did the mindset come with the blocking?
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: Was it always really important to you or did you
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: learn early like this is how you become like a
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: complete tight end.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: No, it was always important to me since my high
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: school days playing football, I always just took pride in
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: the blocking game. I really did. I remember in high
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: school it was before like all the blindside blocks you know,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: got banned, which was a good thing, you know what
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to, those crack crack black blocks. You took
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: more pride in high school when you absolutely leveled someone
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: than say, scoring a touchdown. I'm talking The touchdown was cool,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: you celebrate, but the whole sideline would go absolutely bonkers
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: if you took someone up and just planting them on
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: the ground, or you blindsided someone and just flat blacked
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: them and basically put them in the hospital. So that
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: mindset was always there to just be the biggest dog,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: to be the you know, to be the strongest dog
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: out in the field, and to to be tossing people around.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Tossing people around felt like the manly thing to be
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: in the game of football. Yeah, catching touchdowns was cool,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: that came with it, but that wasn't what you wanted
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: to showcase. It was how far can you take someone
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: and just embarrass them and just show them who the
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: fuck is boss? So that's started, you know in high
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: school maybe say it would say as a kid though
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: that toughness because I was getting beat the shit out
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: of from my three older brothers and their friends at
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: all times, and they would pick on me and I
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: would just come right back at them. So that mindset
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: started then. And then in high school my senior year,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: I only had eight catches my senior year in high
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: school as a tight end, and we ran the ball
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: fifty two out of fifty two plays one time, and
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: it didn't matter because we were dominating. We won the
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: game like thirty nothing. I would just take guys, drive
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: them back five yards, planning them. At one time in
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: high school, picked up a guy, brought them off the
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: sidelines ten yards and threw them over the fence. It
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: was kind of like the play, the Sergio Brown play,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: but instead I took the guy up in the air
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: at ten yards and threw them over. And now, yeah,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: just like that one. But then I took the guy
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: and threw them over the fence in high school, and
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: we just took so much pride in that, like it
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: wasn't about catches, it wasn't about touchdowns. So that translated
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: into college and everyone respected it. Everyone respected me a
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: lot more because I wasn't the guy just looking for touchdowns.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: I was the guy when it came to whatever seven
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: on seven what's it called when nine and seven run period,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: that I'd be showing up. And it was all about
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: how how how bad ass can you be in the
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: run game, and how you know, how hard can you
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: block the d N and make a hole for your
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: running back?
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: Dude, there is something about having a tight end that
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: knows how to do like a trade block or a
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: triple block and knows where the right fit is, where
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 4: to put his hands. It makes your life so much easier.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: It's the best feeling, dude. Yeah, to this day. You know,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: when people show my highlights, I don't give a fuck,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: Like the catching highlights and touchdowns, I'm like, cool whatever,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: I won't even look. I'll be like, that's cool. But
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: when I see a blocking play of mine, I rewind
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: that thing I've read there. I remember Stephen Ridley, he
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: was running back, my good friend. He'd beat Kevin Hart
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: in a race like two years ago, and Kevin Hart
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: blew out his hamstring. So the NFL, you guys remember
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: that a little bit. No, he blew out his abdominal
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: and then the NFL was you know, showed oh ex
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: player Stephen Ridley, you know, blows away Kevin Hart in
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: a race. Kevin Hart blows abdomino. So then what did
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: they do? The NFL took all of Stephen Ridley's highlights
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: and they put them up on the NFL dot com
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: or whatever their Instagram page, and guess what there, I
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: was blocking and I sent it to Really, I said,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: look at that motherfucker block for you. I'm like, I
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: love the blocking highlights. And I'm I'm like surprised with
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: myself because I don't really remember, like it was just
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: a natural thing I would do, you know, and I
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: didn't really notice how important it really was. It was
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: just part of my personality, Like that's what I did.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: I blocked. But when I go back and I watched
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: me block, like when I was in my heyday, like
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: the first four years, man, I was fucking tossing motherfuckers, dude,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: and I didn't really realize it that I was really
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: doing it like that. Like I was doing it like that.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: So I'll always rewind a block and I'll always make
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: sure that people see all the blocks when they're up
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: on the DV screen, which is whatever.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 4: With the game, were you a g that like talk
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: ship during the game, or you kind of just keeped
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: yourself and if somebody talks it to you turn it
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: up on them a little bit.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: There we go, and I love when people talk shit
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: to me, Like brought me to a whole other level.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: And that's what happened with the That's what I was
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: gonna ask ahole entire game, just yapping at me and
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: we're friends, like we're friends like in New England. I'm like, bro,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: like I'm getting open on you guys too, and we're
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: dominating you. But just kept going and going and going,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: and finally he just triggered me and I just was like,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: I'm on the next blocking play again. I'm gonna just
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: keep going and going and going.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: How long was that? I'm gonna I'm gonna get him when.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: I get just chirping. He was chirping the whole time. Yeah,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: there was Dabel. You saw Dabel there giants. Now he
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: loved it too. There he is right, there was.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, good ship. How many plays so this guy's
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: chirping at you, getting after you, saying whatever? How many
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: How long after was that block for you where You're like, Okay,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take this kid to the episoute sound.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, I was going. I didn't care if I knew
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: the play was over too. Like I saw the running
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: back score a touchdown. Oh Ship, what's his name again?
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: He had three touchdowns that came in like two hundred
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: and fifty yards.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: You just had like fifty running backs?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, yeah, And then we caught him like two
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: weeks later because jonas yeah, ja so many running backs.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: I just couldn't think of what it was you guys
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: running backs. I saw him score right behind me too,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: and I was like, fuck this, I'm still going. I
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: was just over him. He was just talking the whole time,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: and I just like I'm gonna I'm just gonna go
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: until he collapses and then boom finally.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: Right there is why I never wanted to talk Ship. Yeah,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: just to like, if you're going to gainst a good player,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: you're just I'm always like complimenting. I'm complimenting.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hated that this guy's too nice, Like I
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: don't want to it's.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's when you have a lax just like you're
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: playing a hell of a game out here, just to
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: like you never want that trigger to go off on
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: somebody because you just never fucking know. You ain't trying
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: to be on a highlight.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: No, I feel you, I mean you're you're how do
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: you feel about this?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Oh? Man? That's that's that's a set you fifty one correct? Yeah,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: you got me solo tackle. But that's a nice uh
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: flat route though. Look at the speed I had back then.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Wish I had that speed still though, Man, look at
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: me come out of the back Was that coming out
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: of the backfield or was that just a flat route
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: at the tight position or that? Yeah? I'm flying right there.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: See I out angled you. That's how fast I was
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: back then. That should have been if you were playing
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: true technique football as a linebacker, that should have been
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: a two yard cat. Just I just beat the zone,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: beat his own.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: I think we were a man there. Yeah, so it
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: makes it even worse, worse, but you made up for it.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: You made up right there. Look at should I have
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: only about four yards? But Will couldn't close the gap fast.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: Holy shit, I'm on the same page still. And that
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: was and that was. That was June twenty third, twenty
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: twenty three, all right, so that wasn't that long ago.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: But still, that was a nice tackle.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: He got one on one a lot of other men
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: have failed trying to do.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: There's a photo where it's captured from from Rob's angle
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: to where it looks like he just I mean, he
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: does stiff arm me, but it looks like they have
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: a great angle to where that should you get like
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: posterized for getting stiff armed?
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: I know, I know Gronk's a guest on our show,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: but if you're in man coverage, are you fearful of
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 4: this man because he's not like it wasn't the shiftiest
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: guy in the world and you had some speedback then,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 4: this is.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, you know he's a stiff arm Well,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: so yeah, absolutely, Look at that pick man.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: I see that picking.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: You got to break that down. You got to break
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: that down.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: And I.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: Was on the sideline, so I knew that you had
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: silent help, so I didn't really try. I wanted you.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: I wanted you to catch the ball because I wanted
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: to pad My stats.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: Was there for both of us. First down, But you
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: gotta tackle.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: Tackle bright pull on the film, but comp you got
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: to fix the angle here a little bit. But hey,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: way to get him down when he got him.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: A lot of guys fail on.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: That, A lot of guys failed.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: Mission Impossible is the greatest franchise of all time, and
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: it's one of those few franchises that feels like they
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: just constantly get better. They raise the bar. They have
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: an amazing cast, and they have incredible action.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: Scene Buddy, I could not agree more. Tom Cruise is
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: truly incredible. There's actors and actresses out there all over
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: the world. There's only a few elite actors and actresses,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: but there's only one individual who does all of their
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 4: stunts and has no stunt doubles, and that is the
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: one and only Tom Cruise.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning. They have some of the
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: most dangerous stunts that have ever been filmed in cinema.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: They're incomparable visceral action for audiences around the world. I
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: don't understand how they do it each time, each.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: Move, Buddy, the stunt Tom Cruise performed on that plane,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: That plane was going one hundred and seventy miles an
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: hour and then all of a sudden, this in sane stunt.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: That was with two million gallons of water.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: You just know at one hundred and seventy mile prior
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: wins in massive water tanks. This movie's gonna be crazy,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be untouched.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: This film is a culmination of the last thirty years.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: Every mission has led to this.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: I cannot wait to see this movie. The whole squad's
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: going and all we talk about is how we can't
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: wait to see this action on the big screen.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: Bro. Tom Cruise truly delivers in this movie. It makes
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 4: you wonder, will this be the final Reckoning?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: Catch Mission Impossible? The final Reckoning in theaters this Thursday.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: You do not want to miss I want to ask.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: I gotta ask.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: You were the same same position, group, same age, What
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: was it like around Aaron Hernandez.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: I was just gonna get into that De's really.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: Like in your mind or you're like all the stuff
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: that comes out about him now, like going back to
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: those moments around him, are you kind of thinking your
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: head like I'm not in this world too much? But
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: there's like some there's like some shit that this guy's
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: into off the field that I don't necessarily even want
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: to know.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: Because there was we we heard stories about like him
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: being in the team meeting room, like beating off and
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: like doing crazy shit. I mean, and and honestly, if
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 4: you don't want to talk about me.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: Possibly, that's a possibility. I may or may have not
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: seen it live. No shit, yeah, I'm not going to
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: complete I'm not.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: At the time, just thinking yourself, Man, this guy really.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: But uh, I mean I love crazy shit though, so
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: like I didn't mind things like that. I was like, wow,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: like that was pretty epic. Like I was a wild
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: man myself, so like I was like, nothing fazed me.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: I was like I encouraged it, but like never I mean,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, first off, unbelievable football player. Man, you're talking
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: about the playbook me struggling with the playbook. That guy
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: knew the plays inside and out, the run game, man
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: pass game, and like the first two weeks being in
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: New England, while I struggled with it all the way
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: untol like week eight, you know. And he was bawling
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: right from the beginning. He was a basketball player out
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: on the football field, That's what he was. With his size,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: he could run, he was he was at one point
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: he was lining up at running back and having already
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: plus yard runs while I was black. I mean, you guys, yes,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: you're the best combination at the tight end position of
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: all time, and that second year proves it. I mean,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: we have like, what twenty three hundred yards combined and
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: like twenty eight touchdowns between just him and I including
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: playoffs and regular season. That's unheard of. Like, there ain't
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: no other tight end combo ever going to have fifteen
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: hundred yards combined like ever again possibly or maybe like
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: sixteen hundred yards. So we went like twenty eight hundred
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: and like twenty eight touchdowns, which is just absurd. But uh,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of craziness definitely. But I didn't mind it,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I loved it. Uh, And then I
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: didn't see, you know, it going to the level that
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: it went to. I didn't see that happening Like that
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: was a surprise. It was a surprise to everyone because
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: you would never expect anyone, you know, especially be in
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: that position, to have it go to the level that
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: it went to.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: And you're learning about this stuff with when all the
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: whether it's duckumentary shows coming out about it. You're learning
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: that then, and you're like, fuck, I didn't really know
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: it was that bad.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't know it was that bad. I mean I
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: knew that, you know, there was definitely some wild size
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: to him, but with everything coming out, there's there's some
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: that I would say is true, and the documentaries that
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: come out, there's some that's probably exaggerated a little bit,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: but there's some that's not exaggerated at all either. I'm
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: not going to talk about like what topics it was
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: and everything, but uh, I mean it was wild man.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: I I was the guy that was truly there throughout
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: his whole career, right in the same room the whole
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: entire time. Is But it's unfortunate though what happened, because
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: the talent was just just through the roof. Man through
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: the roof, and if we could have kept our tandem going, yeah,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: we would been just truly unstoppable. But uh yeah, that's
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: really all I got on that. Yeah, saw it, saw
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: some of it, but you didn't know it was like
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: to that extra and not surprise either now either, like
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: it's like okay, that makes sense now.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, when you guys are at practice, he got
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: charged when you guys were at practice or like like
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: you guys practice that day.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: Correct, it was an off season, it was it was
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: actually it was yeah, it was during the summer when
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: no one was actually at the facility and.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: When like when when you found out were you like
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: at first, like there's no way this is possible? Or
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: were you like that's that's that's a tough question to ask.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 4: What was your thought process when you heard he was charged?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: Well, he didn't get charged until like after the fact
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: that it all came out correct, So like when I
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: first kind of like was the thought process when I
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: first heard about you know, the situation, the real situation
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: where I was like, all right, this is trouble. Uh,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: you know, surprised, shocked big time? Uh, sad a little
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: bit like no, like no way, Like also disappointed, you know,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: like like why would you do that? Like like why,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: like what's going on? We got the whole world in
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: front of us, We got the world by the balls,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: especially you know you and I as the tandem, Like
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: we got the best team out there everything. So it
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: was it was shocking, you know, it was sad as well,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: you know once once you really realize what truly happened.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how was Bill Belichick? Aside from what you get
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 3: to see, whether he's uh in press conferences, the coaching side,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: the Art of Winning book, Like, what's he like kind
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: of off the field or away? Because I think there's
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: a story where he showed up hammered to Randy Moss's
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: one of his costume parties or like a Halloween, like
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: what's a what's another what's a fun side of Bill Belichick?
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: All Right, here's something that a lot of people really
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: don't know is that he never really cracks jokes, you know,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: and he's always got that serious face and team meetings,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: but every once in a while, like once every two weeks,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: he would just come in with an absolute fucking banger,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: bro I'm talking banger, and he would actually have a
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: smile on his face right after he would just drop
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: some knowledge or some you know, over the top joke
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: that just landed every time with the team, and everyone
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: would just be on the ground, that's fucking dying laughing.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: It was so it was always vicious too, the joker
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: or whatever, the knowledge was always vicious. But when he
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: came in with that, it always lightened the mood. It
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: was every it was once in a blue moon. But
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: when he did do that, man, it was good ship.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: We all appreciated it.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: You ever get to you have a party with Bill.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: He ever partaking the Gronkowski Dances.
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: Actually he showed up to the first Grunk Beach ever
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: when I first retired. It was in Miami. It was
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: at that Super Bowl like uh five six years ago,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: and he showed up to that grunk beach, which was
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: really cool. But other than that, he was there for
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: like five minutes. He's like, Yeah, this isn't really for
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: me showing face. Really, let's go. Yeah, he's great, but
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: I think he loves he loves the party scene more
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: than ever right now. Actually at parties. I mean he's
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: not like he's right picking out, I mean, but he's there.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: You know, he's doing his thing, and you know, he's
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: loosened up big time ever since he left being a
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: head coach in the NFL, which is cool to see.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: Were you surprised about that him loosing up after he
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: became a head coach after he left the NFL.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely surprised. I thought he would keep that mantra
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: even like going on to whatever you know, he was
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: going to do next after the NFL. I'm sure he
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: probably has that mantra while coaching, you know, the tar heels,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: but like on the outside of everything else. I was
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: definitely surprised when he started joining you know, social media.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: You know, he joined the media game and he was
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: more loose, you know, cracking more jokes, smiling more when
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: he was making all his appearances on all the shows
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: that he was on. But it was really good to see,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Like I was happy for him, man, you know, it
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: was a different side that everyone got to see too.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: But the knowledge he drops as well is always accurate too.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: Knows the game of football inside and out better than
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: anyone else out there.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: What's it like seeing all the headlines with the Jordan stuff,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: with knowing coach Belichick as this no nonsense coach and
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: seeing all the like theatrics that have kind of came
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: with on the outside looking in, like with him at
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: North Carolina.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: Guy, that's all about eliminating distractions.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: So that's a little surprising to me because he was
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: all about eliminating distractions, and like it's kind of I mean,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: we can't really say if it's a distraction yet or not,
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: because well, no, in the win lost column this year,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: if he wins every game or puts up eight wins
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: this year at UNC, well then there was no distractions
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: at all. The distractions sometimes fuels him. I mean, how
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: much you know, crazy shit did he deal with in
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: New England From you know, Tom's things to Hernandez, to me,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: you know, in some situations, to just a lot of
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: other things that were going on, and we would just
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: go out there and win constantly at a at a
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: you know, at a rate that's never been seen before,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: and win super Bowls even though there was things going
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: on the outside. Uh you know that didn't you know
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: that we're trying to distract us, but want to get
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: to us because we would block it all out. But
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: still if there was something going on and it was
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: just at like just bickering you know, at the team
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: and like everyone had to deal with it, he would
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: kind of say something, you know, like a kind of
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: like amp and down a little bit, you know, media, Yeah,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: like hey, this is going on, Like can you just
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: kind of diffuse the situation. So I kind of feel
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: like he's not diffusing the situation at all when it
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: could be diffused a little bit more, and it's becoming
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: a distraction to the whole entire program at the University
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: of North Carolina a little bit. So, uh, it kind
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: of goes against that. But like we said, he's also
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: loosened up tremendously and he's kind of a you know,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: changed you know, personality since being a coach in the NFL.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: But just overall, I think like football needs to come.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: Once football comes, you know, I'm excited to see how
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: all that goes. You know, I'm kind of getting ann
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: about all these other things that talked about with Bill
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: right now. It's like, let's see this guy coach. You know,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: if this guy dominates, well, then let it be. And
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: if he loses out right from the beginning and he's
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: one in three, that could be a serious problem.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: If he starts out one and three, you need to
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: fly out to North Carolina and have a one on
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: one meeting with him. We got to eliminate these distractions.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: I'll have University of North Carolina hiring me as like
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: president of all sports. Yes, so I can be president.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: Wants to beat you, You're in there and be like,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: Tom and Edelman all flight all above them too. They
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: all have to be above them.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: Eliminate the distractions.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: Come on, what are we doing out here?
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to win or not? That's what we
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: got to focus.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see what happens, you know, Yeah, we'll
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: see what happens.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: One in three.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: I'm going I'm pulling from. He'll be great for football.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: It'll be great for college football, like the Dion effect,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: you know, like how much better? Like no one watched Colorado,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: It's like no one watch you, and like everyone tuned
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: in everyone, it will be tuned into you.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: And see for sure when Tom and Bill end up
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: breaking up, Tom, you go with Tom to Tampa Bay.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 4: From your vantage point, what did you see happening there
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 4: on the inside between their relationship, because you were saying
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: in the beginning of your career, Tom's sitting there as
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: baby Bill Belichick. He's Bill Belichick's son essentially, and then
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: they get to the end you hear about how they're
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: not really getting along culturally. They think that they're going
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: different directions. Tom and everybody, you guys lose to the
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: Titans in twenty nineteen, ending your dynasty and then retired.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: You're right, that's why you're a dynasty, do you think?
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 4: So what do you what did you do see happening
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: between them and that breakup?
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, like I said, I mean I was surprised.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you go all the way way back
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: to my rookie year, it was definitely like a different
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: mindset or positioning that Tom was in like he like
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: I said, he was like Bill Belichick's son, my rookie year.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: I would say, I mean, I really can't talk for
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Tom or Bill like on how the relationship, but I
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: would just say what kind of really happened was that
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: Tom was probably growing older, you know, and was like,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: you know, wanted to freelance more. I would say, doesn't
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: have to be treated like a rookie. And it was
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: still going on, uh, And I would say he was
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: getting over that situation even though it was kind of
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: like that, you know, my rookie year.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he he was, you know.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: Guys, thirty five years old now thirty six, and doesn't
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: need to be treated like arguably the goal yeah, probably
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: already the greatest of all time. It doesn't need to
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: be treated like a rookie, you know. And I would
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: say the tensions started feuding over things like in that
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: situation between them two, that's kind of like how I
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: how I saw it in a way. And then eventually
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: neither of them were gonna you know, you know, twitch
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: or like Ben the knee or Ben then yeah, bend
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: the knee. So the tension just started heating up. I
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: would say, and eventually, you know, the divorce happened, But
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: our details or what they were truly thinking, you would
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: have to ask one of them. But from an outside perspective,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: like player, I would say that's kind of how the case,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of started and ended.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: When those topics are getting talked about in the media
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: is when we you're like, oh, yeah, this is gonna
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: come to the surface sooner or later.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, And then it's also like, wow, it took
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: that long for it to come to the surface as well. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: Sometimes the media is right, it's like wow, it took
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: them that long. But then sometimes it's like, wait, they're
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: already way ahead of the game. How did they already
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: know that it was that that was already coming to
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: the serface, or they would come up with something that
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: wasn't even up to the surface and it was never
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: going to come up to the surface. But there's some
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: things where it's like, whoa, it took them that long,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: and you're surprised, you know, now with media these days,
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: when media doesn't catch on to something and it takes
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: a while to get out, you're surprised with that.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what were the conversations that took place to get
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 4: you out of retirement into Tampa.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: Well, everything had a you know check out for me.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: It wasn't just one situation that was gonna you know,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: get me out of retirement. First off, I had to
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: be feeling good again. I was really beat up, you know,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: those last two years in New England, and it was
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: getting tough on me, you know, playing on a weekly basis,
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: like the Sunday game. I couldn't recover until like Saturday,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: the following Saturday, and then to practice and all that.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: It was just becoming miserable. I mean everyone experiences that,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: and that's why everyone retires, especially because if you weren't
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: experiencing that and you're experiencing the joy of like playing,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: like when you're in twenty three, why the fuck would
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: you retire, you know what I mean. So when it
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: gets starts getting miserable and hard, you know, that's when
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: you want to walk away from the game. And that's
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: what I did. But I was really beat up too.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: But I was like, you know, you're kind of evolving,
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: you know, throughout your whole career. I involved found different situations,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: you know, to recover. Also different workouts you know that
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: can keep me on top of my game. Also kind
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: of needed a different scenario, you know, different program, you know,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: So when time went to Tampa, we just talked about
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: it a little bit. My mom lived down there. I
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: love Florida. Totally different organization, felt more laid back. Definitely
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: put the work in, but still more laid back like
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: a country club.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: They wanted me as well Tampa. It wasn't just Tom
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: wanted me. The organization called me up too and they're like, yeah,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: we definitely want you be a part, you know, of
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: the Buccaneers family. I was feeling good as well and
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: felt like I had more left in the tank. So
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: every box checked off. And then obviously with Tom going
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: down there to have that chemistry and just to keep
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: it going on in a new program. So everything just
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, pled my way and I pulled
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: the trigger to do it.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 3: And there it seems it sounds like they were willing
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: to like cater around your expectation what you wanted physically
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: to like what your body needed, what you needed as
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: how old are you at this time?
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: I was thirty years old.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a thirty year three year old tight
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: tight end was back in New England when you decided
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: to retire. You talk about the joy and it just
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: you hated going up to work. Was a lot of
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: it to the expectation and the stress that would come
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: with the organization of the Patriots, like the standard that
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: had lived and they expected you to live by when
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: you're like, hey, I feel like my body would respond
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: better doing this, or I feel like I should be
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: doing this workout, because a lot of times you butt
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: heads with those third party sources that we all use
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 3: outside of the facility, and then you try to implement
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: them inside and the who the whole ego battle kind
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: of like butts heads.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you hit it right on the money, bro. You
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, like you said, you played for a while,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: so you understand that. And every player kind of goes
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: through that experience too. But in a way like I
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: like in New England, like coaches never gave off anyone
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: from practice. But like at the end of my career,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, I can't be playing in a game
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: on Sunday and practice full speed Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Like
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: I'm blocking guys. Think about what I'm doing. I'm running
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: thirty five routes a game as well, like a wide
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: receiver and I'm trying to block three, you know, three
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: hundred pounders sometimes d ms that are two hundred and
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: sixty pounds linebackers that are running all over the place
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: on a continuous basis, every single place. So my energy
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: and effort, and I'll put it is higher than anyone
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: else out there on the football field if you really
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: think about it, because of the routes I got to
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: run and also to be in shape blacking, and I
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: just couldn't recover anymore. Like Wednesday would come and I
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: won't even want to hit anyone in the nine nine seven.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: I'd be like yo, like I'm just gonna put my
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: hand in front of you, you know, Like I didn't
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: even want to hit, Like that's that's a bad feeling.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: You don't want to get hit and you're playing the
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: game of football. But like if I took off like
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: by like Thursday or Friday, like I was able to
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: do it again, like have that mindset like oh I'm
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: ready to hit, but like no, no one would get
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: off in practice or anything. So it was getting tough,
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: like that mentality that aura in New England, like I
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: wanted a day off of practice and all that, but
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: it was just tough, and it was tough to ask
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: for it too, because of the expectations. Right, So when
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: I got the Tampa exactly, but when I got to Tampa,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: they were kind of known, like, hey, we're gonna we
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: give vets a day off, like you got to be
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: truly proven though, like and I was proven at that time,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, I at least get one
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: day off a week, and every in training camp, every
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: three days, I get off too. And they were down
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: for it. Well, they were down.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: I bet you could have probably negotiated more coming out
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: of retirement.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't need more though, But also with the
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: mindset coming from New England, you kind of feel like
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: you're letting the team down as well if you're taking
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: off too much, you know, especially if you're not injured
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: or you know, rehabbing an injury. But I was cool
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: with it with my mindset because I truly knew that
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: I couldn't practice every single day and then be fully
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: ready for a game on Sunday. And they gave me
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: off every Friday my two years in Tampa, which I'm
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: thankful for, which you know, I put the work in,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: you know, Wednesday Thursday, but I truly believe that's what
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: got me to play and got me, you know, to
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: be able to play at the level I played. It
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't the highest level of football that I could possibly
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: play it like I was, but like to play at
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: the highest level at that age and where I was. Yeah,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: taking off that Friday to at least make an impact
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: on the field.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 4: Right, Well got you that incentive too, because there was
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: that clip that came out of you going up to
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: Tom being like, hey, I need one more Yes. And
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: so you guys are you were pulled out of that game? Correct,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: and You're like, I need to go back in.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we were. We were whomping him. It was
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: like the third quarter. We were up like thirty five
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: nothing or thirty five seven, So they pulled all the starters.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: But Tampa's cool, you know, they're cool like that. They
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: want you to make all the possible money that you
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: can make Offen the corner of Byron Left which always
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: said in the meeting, there's two things that you take
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: away from football. On the end, he goes, it's your
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: relationships and it's the money that you make. That's the
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: two things that stick with you forever, and he says,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: So going in, he goes, if we're up, obviously, the
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: most important thing is to win the game. But if
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: we're up and you need an extra catch, we're going
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: to get you that extra catch. We're going to get
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: you that money. So we were winning. They pulled all
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: the starters, but Tom was like, hey, we got to
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: get one more catch. We drew a play right on
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: the right on the sideline. Hey, rob motion across. You're
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: just gonna run a diagonal. I'm going to hit you
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: and boom motion across. I actually false started, but they
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: didn't get called where you lean forward a little bit? Yeah,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: it's called what's that called again? What's the motion? Yeah?
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: But you uh, where you accidentally moved forward a little
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: bit on the motion that's appunently you're not allowed to
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: move forward. Then it is a fall start. But there's
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: a name for it. I can't think about it right now,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: but I did that actually, but they didn't call it
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: because it was the game was just it was that
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: way out of reach, ran that diagonal. Boom time hit me.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: It was it was my I needed I think like
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: fifty five catches or something. That was my fifty fifth
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: catch to hit my last incentive in my contract. Yeah,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: so Tampa's cool, cool like that.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, did you ever have incentive based stuff in your
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: contracts in New England?
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 4: Never? Did you ever miss one?
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: My last year in New England, I basically missed them all,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: but my second last year in New England, I base
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: I hit them all. Did you really? I fout out
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: myself again going into that last year, but halfway through,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: half way through, I didn't even care about them anymore.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: It was just like I gotta I gotta survive. I'm
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: just trying to survive.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what was what was the most on you towards
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 4: the end? Like you're from your body standpoint, I had
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: to survive this.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: It was it shoulder? Was your back at all?
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: Again? It was inflammation in my body? Bro insert Adam bobo. Yeah, inflammation, dude,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: Like it wasn't anything naga while my back was nagging
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: a lot, but I was inflamed. But like like I
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: still have it to this day a little bit like
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: if I go ham one day two days later, like
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: I can't move like I'm inflamed, like I'm slow. I
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: kind of actually have it a little bit today. I
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: haven't worked down like two weeks. I did a hardcore
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: yoga like forty eight hours ago exactly, and like, I
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: didn't go too hard in it because I knew I
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: was coming on. But when I get inflamed, like I'm slower,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Like I can't run as fast, and I was like
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: I couldn't recover fast enough and get rid of that inflammation.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: Even though I started finding ways to do it, It's
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: just at that rapid rate and I was so far
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: behind that just that slowness, just that not that burst anymore.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: You don't have that quickness either anymore, and it just
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to make you get hit either. Everything hurts
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: then too. So inflammation was, you know, my biggest killer?
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: I would say, is.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: There a story outside of what you've already talked about
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: in past conversations where you were going to get traded
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: to Detroit? You threatened to retire they don't trade you. Yeah,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: but was there a story behind the scenes about how
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: the organization was kind of handling your situation that isn't
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: known or that you haven't kind of talked about because
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 3: everybody's aware that you did the whole threat to retire
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: they don't trade do You're back in New England?
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: Well, that was a tough year. We lost to the
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles that year actually in the Super Bowl after
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: we after the comeback versus Falcons, so we went back
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: to back Super Bowls. We were actually almost three Peter,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: we went to three Super Bowls in a row, but
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: we just lost the middle one versus Egles. But that
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: year was tough, man, I'm talking just the area of
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: the organization. I don't think anyone really enjoyed that season.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: I'm talking like any player, like it was just weird.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: But we were dominating, we were still winning, and we
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl. But just overall it was
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: it was tough. And uh what what was the question again.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 3: About when they were going to they were going to
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: trade you tog.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: There we go. Now, I say that that's why I
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: was bringing that up so that whole year. So then
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: I was being an asshole after that year, you know,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: like they were trying to get a hold of me.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: I wasn't answering anything. I was saying shit in the media.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: I was just being a complete asshole. And then I'm
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: with Monster Energy and Monster Energy has Monster Jam and
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: uh at the at at in New England at Gillette Stadium,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: and I still haven't talked to anyone in the organization.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: I was kind of vocal in the media like this
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: year sucked, like kind of shit like that, like miserable here,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: Like I was one of those guys like like that
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: was like the oral when everyone was saying it sucks
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: to play in New England, Like there was those that
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: one or two years that was when the Eagles players
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: were going to the uh the parade and like ripping
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: on the organization Like yeah, I was one of the
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: guys like saying it sucks to play there like that year,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: like it was just a tough year just overall. So
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: then I was being an asshole. I go to Monster
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: Jam and I have to have a press conference there
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: and it's all the full like for my announcers like hey,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: like you got to do the appearance at Monster Jam,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh shit. I was like, this
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: ain't going to go over so well. So I show
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: up to the press conference in the whole uniform like
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: I'm a freaking dirt bike rider with the helmet on.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: I go up to the press conference and they just
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: start asking me football questions right away, and I'm just
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: giving fucking blatant like asshole answers back. And then a
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: week later is when I get the phone call and
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: finally I answered, hey, we're going to trade you. And
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: I never wanted to get traded. Actually, I knew it
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: was going to come down to this sell because of
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: what I was doing. It was the counter reaction, you know,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: the organization was doing back to me like oh, he
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: wants be an asshole, Well we're going to get rid
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: of him. And that's when Patricia was the head coach
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: at the Lions too, and he's like, all right, well
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna grab Gronk then I'm gonna trade for him.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: And I got the call. I got traded, but I
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: was prepared. I was fucking prepared. I knew the phone
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: call was going to come. I knew I was going
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: to get traded. I was prepared. Hey, Rob, we're going
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: to trade you to the Lion. I said, you can't
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: trade a retired player. Yeah, right on the spot. I
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: was like, I can't trade me. I'm retired, Like I
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: just retired, Like you can't trade. My agent's like you're
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: a genius. True, I've never been in this situation before.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: And then finally they Bill was like, well then what
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: the fuck is the problem. When went in, we hash
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: everything out. I was like, the train never went through.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: Then it got acts and actually it would have been
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: through if I said no problem. But uh, I ended
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: up playing one more year doing I was like, I
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: was like, business isn't done. Like I'm just being an
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: asshole a little bit. Business not done. Let's do one
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: more year. I'm so glad I went back. I was
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: actually about to retire though too. I was really thinking
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: about it, but I didn't feel right going to another team,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: not at all. I was like, I'm not gonna end
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: up with another team. I'll do another year in New England.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: And we ended up winning the Super Bowl. And that
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: was my last game in New England, winning that Super
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: Bowl I think fifty three in Atlanta versus Los Angeles Rams.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: I died with that catch up the middle, the twenty
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: eight yard bomb up to seem to the two yard line,
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: and then Sony Michelle ran the ball right behind me
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: in for the only touchdown of the game. So it
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: all worked out in the end.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man made that year with Philadelphia. So hard was
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: the expectation coming off the prior Super Bowl?
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: Uh No, I was beat up a little bit. Still
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: my body wasn't responding how I wanted it to. But
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: uh just aura, Yeah it was that. No, that was
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: last year. Going in was was a lot better than
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: that Philadelphia season. I remember everyone just was pissed. I remember.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: I mean it's just hard to explain, like what like
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: what like why you just had to be a part
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, off the field, let's go.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: I like, off the field, You've.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: Done a lot of cameos. I have family guy the clapper.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 4: It sounds like a Venaria clapper.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: That's well had. That's why they beat us so bad
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: in the holly Ball. We were staying away from them.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: These guys have the clap.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 4: But dude, you've done You've done all of these different
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: SpongeBob square Pants, Got to square.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: Pants still gives me residual checks for like two grand
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: like ship like every like. I mean the show is yeah,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: I love it, and I'm like, when did I do
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: SpongeBob SquarePants? I remember I sang though like birthday song
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: in one of the episodes. I still get residual checks
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: from it.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 4: Of all these cameos that you've done, what was like
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 4: the like the thing you were most excited for? Now
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 4: do the people call you and be like, hey, we
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 4: want growing to do this cameo or were you ever
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: like calling your agent me and like I heard this
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 4: movie's coming out, I heard the show. I love the
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 4: show How I Met your Mother. I want to be
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 4: a part of.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: This kind of both, you know, especially at first, I
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of cameos, Like I wanted
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: to live that lifestyle. Like I said, I wasn't saying
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: no going to the draft any that movie with Jamie
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: Fox was any given Sunday or right. I love that movie,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I want to live like that they
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: were a part of in the locker room after doing
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: all that good shit, you know, I wanted to live
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: like a movie. So I was just telling my people like, oh,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: I'll do any appearance in whatever movie. And then my
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: very first one actually basically was the Entourage movie. Loved
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: Entourage growing up as a kid, one of the one
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: of the best shows like that when I was in
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: high school, and I told my friends in high school,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna be on that show one fucking day
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: watch And then I ended up getting in the movie,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: which was really really cool, and definitely I would say
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite appearances because what's funny
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: is I was writing my Private Party and so I
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: actually got to this set and I started taking shots
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: with everyone because it was like eleven thirty pm at
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: night and I was going out that night. So I
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: started getting hammered on the spot and in the scene,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: I'm partying in the scene, so it worked out perfect. Yeah.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: I was actually hammered for that scene right now? Was
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: that was?
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 6: That?
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: Was that line?
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 4: I lived when you stood up and screened?
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: No, No, they gave it to me and I took
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: it to another level. Yeah. Yeah, he was super handicapped.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: I was actually coming off the knee injury, so I
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: was actually at you know, ACL surgery three months prior
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: to that. But then we also put the arm brace on,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: like my arm was still freaking broken. Yeah, I was
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: had a cane as well. It just just went along.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 4: Well, what was it like seeing Vinnie, Chase and Drama
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: and all those boys after watching that show for so
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: long and being able to see them, it.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: Was the best. Dude. I love them to this day.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: I see them at charity events and everything. And seeing Drama.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: I love Drama, his character and just Drama as well
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: as a person, dude, great dude, it was the best
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: to be just be a part of it, you know,
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: the dream come true?
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dream come true? Dude, all this stuff here, we
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: are all this stuff.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: We are pictures right there, right there's the set.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 4: At Really was that show that if you watched it
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 4: you wanted to be Vinnie Chase. You'd be like, how
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: do I have the ability to live this life?
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: Well, Vinnie Chase was like too pretty, and like I
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: knew I couldn't be Vinnie Chase. I was kind of
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: like I just wanted to. I just want to have
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: a group like that, you know, a group of boys,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: group of boys like that, because I was kind of
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: like Vinnie Chase, but I was more of like Johnny
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: Drama in a way. I was like them combined, you know,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: like I got you, dude, that show. You got to
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: watch that show.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: I know I've seen You've never seen the movie.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: You've never seen the show Man the movie too. There's
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: many the show blows away the movie though, like absolutely.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 3: Blow Is he not?
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 4: Is he maybe the best character of all time?
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: Written character character? God by Fire Drama you know competes
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: with it, but he is just phenomenal dude.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 4: I don't think anybody touches in the show. He is
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 4: so outstanding. Taylor, He's all right. I knew I saw
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 4: you looking at me too. I got the frenchy. He's
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 4: pissed off as I step out of the batter's box
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 4: in baseball, we can't. Yeah, one wasn't a huge fann't
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 4: he wasn't a huge fan.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: Well that's why I like you a lot more. Man
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: the show for you.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: Well, all the stuff that you've done off the field.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: It's it's rumored that you never spent a dollar of
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 3: your NFL earnings. Is that true?
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: Technically it's not true. Uh, well, it actually started working
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: because Drew game fifty thousand.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 3: Technically it's not true. Technically it is true.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: Technically it is true. Yes, what did I say it's
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: not true?
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 3: Nical?
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: Well, technically I was wrong there, but technically it's true.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: I meant it's true. Drew roshand was actually gave me
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: a fifty thousand dollars up front, like marketing budget at
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: the beginning, and you got to pay them back over
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: the time the first fifty grand you made. So I
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: actually took that fifty grand. I bought me a car,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I paid for my spot up in New
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: England actually with it, and then as I was getting
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: a couple of deals, I paid them off. But just overall,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: you know, I actually I'm very frugal, you know, and
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: lived you know, with a roommate my first couple of years.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: I didn't know how long the NFL was gonna last.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: I was a second round pick, so it was like
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: a four year, four million dollar deal, and I was like,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: if I played this contract out, I'll be set for life.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: I got two million dollars in my bank, I can
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: make a hundred and two hundred thousand dollars of interest.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, if I only played three four years,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: I'm good. And I wanted that situation for me too,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: that I could be good as well, Like like if hey,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: if I don't ball, if I'm not the player, you
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: know that, I think I could be whatever, I'm still
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: set for life, because two million in the bank is
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: set for life to me, you know at that time.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: So I just always wanted to save it and I
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: just used my money that I was getting off the
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: field to just spend it on whatever I needed to
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: spend it on. And then Therefore it just kept continuing
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: and to this day, technically I have not spend any of.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: My into crazy. How when you're young, you have the
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: mindset like, if I'll have two million dollars, I'll be
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 3: set for life. And I know, obviously two million dollars
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 3: is a lot of money, But as time goes and
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 3: you get older in your lifestyle that you do have,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 3: you're like, oh, fuck, two million. Two million wouldn't get
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: me very far if I continue to like live the
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: way you think you can live right first on a
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: deal for like four years four million dollars.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's scary how there's always a new level to it.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 4: Like you think, if I can get to this point,
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: that's all I need, blah blah blah. But then you
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 4: get to that point and you're like, what is this?
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: What's going on here?
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 4: There's a private aviation you can get on a plane
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 4: and just kind of go where you want. That's pretty crazy,
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 4: and always just it's always changing. It's always, Yeah.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: I told you he's gonna be quiet the whole entire time.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: He's gonna let us know when it's his turn. And
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: now he's letting us know it's his turn, all right,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: but buddy, buddy, we still got a little bit longer,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: just a little just a little bit harder. We'll give you.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: We'll give us ten, buddy.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: Give us a little bit longer. Buddy. I told you though,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: I call him. I know this guy way too. Uh yeah, see,
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: come do come up here, good dog.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: Don't you think about old Ravees in New England?
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: I think that's I mean, I was waiting for this
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: subject to come up actually because you guys know Rabes.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: You guys both played for him. But I think that's
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: the perfect fit, you know, for New England overall, just
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: for the organization, for the fan base, for the Craft family.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: Uh you know, I just love his mantra. I love
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: what he stands for. I never really met Rabel before,
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: just for a quick second. I've heard plenty of stories
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: of him because he was that first era of being
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: a you know, a Patriot and winning all the Super Bowls,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: but just to see the way he progressed as a
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: coach too. That's why he's such a good fit too
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: for New England, because he's established. He put his time
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: in as a player, put his time in as a coach,
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: going to Ohio State, working his way up going to
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: Houston is like what DC or whatever and getting the head.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: So he took a step every single way to get
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: to where he is and I think he just has
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: the personality just from just seeing it and just hearing
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: from other players that I think he's the truest perfect
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: fit possibly possible for the second era, you know, after
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and what they're doing so far in New England.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't really argue with any of the
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: moves that they have made so far. I think they
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: have made every move, you know, correctly with the draft,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: with who they took, all the way from free agency,
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: they had all that money, they went and got the
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: guys they needed to get for the positions they needed
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: to get. You never know, though, like when you make
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: a team out of free agency, you never know how
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: it's going to be. A guy like rabel I feel
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: like he can gel him because he's a guy that
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: can gel people from I mean he played offense before
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: special teams defense.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 3: Those guys, Yeah, they'll tell you, He'll tell you.
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 4: He'll tell you. He's done it all too. I mean,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 4: fourteen years in the NFL and he's been the guy
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 4: on every part of the entire roster. I mean, if
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 4: you look at like the Titans in twenty twenty one,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 4: I think they set a record for the most players
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: played because of all the injuries, and we were the
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 4: number one seed going into the playoffs. Obviously we lost
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 4: the first round we played, but that that shows a
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 4: guy that can gel his team. I really, I think
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: it just depends on Drake May. If Drake May can
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: show up in a big way and take a step
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: from here one year two, like the Patriots could be good,
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 4: actually good with all the with all the free agency acquisitions.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: I'm going on record to say that they're making the
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: playoffs this year as well. I don't think you know
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: that they may they have a chance at the division,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: but the Bells, but it's it's AFC. Dolphins are gonna dolphin.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna look beautiful real quick out of
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: the water, and they're gonna sink back down. The Jets. Yeah,
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, we know they're just too far away still,
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, uh, and then the Bells are gonna you know,
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: Bills are good, they're established, They're gonna obviously be the dominant.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: But I think the Patriots they can they can sneak
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: into the playoffs this year. I can see that. I
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna, you know, compete for a super Bowl,
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: but I think in the end, in the two three years,
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: possibly yes, But this year they're going to be making
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: a big impact.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you go from what the fourth overall
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 4: pick this year to the playoffs the next year, that's
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 4: a huge jump.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: We should get a speaking of since we're all team
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 3: fan duel, we should get a little futures parlay going.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: I want to say the Commanders over unders nine and
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: a half, Titans are five and a half and Patriots
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 3: are seven and a half. Wins, get a little combine
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 3: them all, futures bed hit the overs, hit the overs
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: on them all.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: Why are we hitting the overs with the Titans? Why
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: can't we each do the over and then the Titans
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: we do the under.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 3: You think the Titans will struggle in that win over
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: get six games?
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. Now, how many did they get
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: last year?
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 4: Three?
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: I think they got three. I think they got four
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: or five in them this year? No, was it five?
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: I know this is the improvement. Yeah, they got they
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: got the quarterback number one overall pick. But I'm just
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: saying overall what else did they get. This is a
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: good page they did.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 4: They paid a left tackle eighty million dollars and they're
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 4: gonna move their left eckle from last year. Put all
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 4: seventeen games. He was a top ten pick over to
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 4: the right side. They got Zeitler at right guard. Now
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 4: they got Cushion Berry at center. And then you have
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 4: a guy going to his third year that was a
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 4: eleventh overall pick. It's Peter Skronski at left guard. So
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 4: we have a good offensive line. All right, all right,
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 4: you got Calvin Ridley and you got two great backs
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: and Spears and Pollard and you got it really depends
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 4: on like cam Ward can If cam Wore can be
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 4: who we've kind of seen him be, then they are
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 4: going to easily win over five minutes.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: It's all on cam Ward.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 4: It is just like just like just like the Patriots,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 4: it's all on Drake May because you got seven and
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 4: a half.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: We got five and a half. With that breakdown, you know,
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: I feel more comfortable taking me over.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: I will say, well, let me put a meeting tea meeting.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe we go both options and under one, well under
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 3: seven and a half.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they got we gotta go over if I
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: say they're making the play, you're saying can be over. Yeah,
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: and that's a weak division as well. You know monster,
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: you have a monster yeah with the Bills. But going
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: over big, I'm going over big time.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 4: We're all just going to be so biased.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: And then what's the.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 3: Commander is ninety and a half and half, which is
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 3: a big one, but that is Big Daniels in a
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 3: second year, I mean, and they only upgraded their.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: Team as well. They went out and got some more talent.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: You know, you got Cliff Kingsbury is off in the corner.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: He's established. He knows how to handle players, and he
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: knows how to break down players talent as well and
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: use it. So I like the over. We got to
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: do a parlay where it's just all over there.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 4: But big go up to go up to September fourteenth,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 4: it's the first game or September seventh, September seventh, Raiders
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 4: dub but Pete Carroll, Yeah, the new running back in there,
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 4: Gino Smith is there. They're going to run the ball,
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 4: They're going to play good football. Toss up. You said
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 4: the Dolphins come out of come out of the water
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 4: early in the season and look really pretty now On's
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 4: in Miami, and that on's in Miami.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: It's in Miami. But did you see portnoy break down
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: the Patriots schedule.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought he's a great job.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: I mean they're going seventeen and oh so he did
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: do a great job.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: He did a good jay.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: He did a good job that I like. Usually I looked,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: I was like five and a half minutes, like the
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: first thirty seconds, the first breakdown of the first game.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right. I was like, maybe I
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: can watch five and a half minutes. But he was
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: so good and entertaining the first, you know, breakdown of
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: the Las Vegas game, I was like, all right, I
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: gotta watch every single one. I watched the whole entire
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: video and I literally walked away like that was good.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: It might be seventeen, Yeah, that might be.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 4: There's a reason why Daves where Dave's act. Yeah, he
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 4: can talk.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: But Steelers, we're breaking down the whole schedule.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 4: I'm just looking at seven games.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: They're going above seven. I mean, we got the Steelers number.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: The Patriots always take down the Steelers no matter what
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: you guys.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 3: Have, we just do schedule. You got the Panthers it's
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 3: very favorite Saints, Browns, Falcons.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we feel good about seven and a half. There, Jets,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 4: we feel good about it.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: We're going over seven and a half. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 4: The Titians, I know, I talked a big about their offense,
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 4: but they are going to have holes on defense, like
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 4: they're going to have their cornerback. Their secondary is going
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 4: to be a tough position.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: And that's gonna be tough on a rookie quarterback then too,
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: because if rookie quarterback needs help from the defense in
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: order to get truly established and understand everything going on and.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 4: From behind all the time exactly.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: And when you're playing from behind as a rookie, it's
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: tough to get over that hump. Then you know, it's
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: tough to win games. I mean, you got to be
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: truly established as a quarterback in order to understand, like,
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: all right, this is what we got to do from behind,
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: this is what we got to do with a shitty defense, right,
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: that's hired to understand your rookie year.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know in the.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: NFL at that position. But uh, I'm down. I'm down
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: the dude, I'm down to parlay. Actually, I got my
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: phone right here. I'm gonna put the parlay in right.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: Now, at least build it so I won that bet.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: I won that bet last night. Florida Panther is taking
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: down you know, the Toronto maple leafs in game seven?
• 1:58:52
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• 1:58:52
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• 1:58:56
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• 1:58:59
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• 2:00:04
  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. I got the odds for
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans regular season wins, but they give plenty
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: of odds. You can do over three and a half wins,
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: or over five and a half wins, or over seven
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: and a half wins. So you're saying the standard odds though,
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: are over five and a half wins.
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 4: What does it say?
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 1: Straight up? I don't know. It's minus one thirty for
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: five and a.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 3: Half wins, and then that's the one that they'll be.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: All right, So that's the one we want right there?
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: So how do I parlay that? Do I go to
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: another bed? All right, I'll go to the New England Patriots?
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: All right there, Washington commanders, click that. So what we
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: want to over nine and a half wins? That's minus
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: one time. That's the one we want then all right,
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: all right, there we go that that parlay, same game parlay.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: And now we're going with the New England Patriots. Where
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 1: are you guys right there? Over under seven and a
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: half minus one fifty. That's it, just clicked it all right?
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: Oh now it's a plus four seventy three overall.
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 3: Four seventy three for this so how much?
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: So this is a future bat. I'm gonna do it.
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 3: Don't do it yet. We might get it.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: We could.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 3: We could get a little juice from FanDuel. Yeah, like
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 3: we tell them, we get we get done with the bus,
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 3: we hit a FanDuel. Hey, we want to put this
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 3: rock and the boys parlay.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm gonna I'm gonna put a put a
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: little something on it now and then I'm gonna go
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 1: big when they give us that little juice. Yeah, so
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do I'm gonna do three hundred. There we go,
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: three hundred right there, three hundred. I'm gonna win fourteen hundred. Okay,
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: that's about right there. I'm feeling good, We're all feeling
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: good about it.
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 4: I'm thinking about this tier talk right now. Our Tier
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 4: talk today is gonna be best movie couples, So that's
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 4: what I'm hearing.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, best movie couples, which is tough. I thought about
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 3: it is it's very hard.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: I love like the outside football talk. I thrive. Football
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 1: is great to talk about, but I can't talk too
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 1: much football. I really can't.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 4: If it came out, you're to talk about more than
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 4: just football.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: I love talking more. I love off the old time. Yeah,
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: breaking conversations. My uh so, what's this one?
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 3: I'll kick it off with tier talk.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: All right, Sorry, tear talk is what I live for.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 3: Tier three, Tier two, Tier one. You're ranking them three
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 3: all the way. We got honorable mention as well. You
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 3: can anson all right, and for an honorable mention, my
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 3: first honorable mention is going to be Noah and Ali
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 3: from the Notebook. It's a movie that will stay in
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 3: the test of time. Great love story. I do enjoy love,
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 3: and sticking on the theme of love, enjoy love. I
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 3: do enjoy love. I love a good tier drinks.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: Love is the greatest drug out there.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 3: Amen. Amen. My Tier three is going to be Jerry
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 3: and Holly from PS I Love You. Great tier jerker movie,
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 3: right there, Great tier jerker movie where Jerry knows he's
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 3: going to die and he writes these little ps I
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 3: love you notes all throughout her life she finds them.
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 3: It is a very great love story. My tier two
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 3: is going to be Rocky and Adrian one of the
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 3: best proposals of all time, where he says, hey, you know,
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 3: what are you.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: Doing for the next forty to fifty years And she's.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't know why. He's like, you wouldn't mind
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 3: marrying me too much? Anything right, And she's like, huh,
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 3: He's like, you wouldn't mind marrying me too much? She says, yes,
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 3: Rocky Adrian. Great love story. That is my tier too.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 3: My Tier one is none other than Shrek and Fiona
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 3: O great ones.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: Oh man, you.
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 3: Know it gets into the end. She loves Shrek. She
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 3: doesn't want to be with the prince, she doesn't care
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 3: to be the queen. And that is all time love story.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 3: That is my tier one.
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: I watched that with Camille last year for the first time,
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 1: and I'm in love. I'm in love with Trek.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Shrek is a great, great movie. Have you watched
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 3: all of them since?
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: In some comparisons? Yeah, I can't believe you didn't say that.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, no homo, I think you're
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 3: no paus really too, I think you're a good looking cat.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah you're not.
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: I'm in a way.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 3: You got some ogre tenons.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. Yeah, shrunkk it kind of looks
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: like me a little bit.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 4: So now we give one word to describe how we
• 2:04:04
  Speaker 4: feel about will Scheer talk. I'll go first, hyphenated, saved it.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 1: What was your one word, saved it? That's two hyphen
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: Oh that's one. Uh spectacular yeah mm hmm.
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 3: Thank you boys.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, shrunk, m lovely, buzzer beater, emotional, money, strong, touching.
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 3: Wow, thank you boys, thank you.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: Wow. I was getting turned on from all those descriptions.
• 2:04:47
  Speaker 3: Because yeah, because you got that, Uh, I get that.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: And yourself really did feel it back there. The emotions
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: a boy's emotions.
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 3: Taylor, would you like to go second? Or should we go?
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 3: Do we want to throw the grunk?
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: All right? So just best movie couples? Yeah, all right,
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: my honorable mention. I'm gonna go with my girlfriend and
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: Channing Tatum in in the movie Oh shit, what was
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: that movie that she was in? Free Guy? In Free Guy?
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 1: It was the opening scene. Yeah, it was really it
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: was really touching. It's honorable mention because they weren't really dating,
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: but like they kind of where it was like going
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: on a date, like the opening scene. It was. It was,
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: but I gotta give it honorable mention.
• 2:05:32
  Speaker 3: He's a rocket, Yeah, I know he is, and he's
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 3: got moves. B you talk about dance.
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: I know, I wonder what happened behind the scenes. Yeah, So, uh,
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: that's honorable mention. You gotta see it, free guy. It's
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: a great movie. She's not she's a hot chick in
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: the beginning in the car with Channing. Yeah, yeah, there
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: they are right there, and that's bad ass. Yeah, that's
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: a good one. It was a badass scene. So I
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: gotta give her some credit there. She did very well
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: throughout that whole movie. And then uh, I'll go with
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 1: number three. I'll go with uh, Justin Baldini and Blake
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: Lively and it ends with us. Yeah. I still haven't
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 1: seen the movie, but it's talked about so much that
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 1: I gotta, you know, put them in in in that
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: ballgame of being top three. I mean, when you talked
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: about that much, it's got to be a power couple,
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: you know. Throughout the movie. It ends with us, So
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: that's number three, Number two, Tier two, I'll go with
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: Shila Buff you say for Shia La Buff and uh
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: Megan Fox in the Transformers Transformers one one. Yeah, that's yeah,
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: that was excellent, dude, who doesn't love you know, Transformers
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: one and and they were like an ultra power couple
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: in that movie, and uh number one. You know it
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 1: was a real life relationship at the time too, and
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: also they made one of the best movies of all
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: the time. I'm a big action guy, mister and missus
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 1: Smith and Jolie and Brad Pitt. Yes, it hit all
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: aspects of that category because they are a real life relationship.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: It was a relationship in the movie. And it's also
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 1: an action movie and I love action movies. So that's
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: number one by far for me. Mm hmm.
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 3: My word fireworks is that two words?
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 1: Is that fireworks combined or or with the little dash
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 1: like fire dash words?
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 3: Fireworks is one word.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: It is one word. You're right, Yeah, that's how you're
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: using it the way you're using just testing making sure.
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 4: My one word amazing, boys, shrunk, shrunk again, perfect, incredible, strong, hyphenated, gronk, spike.
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's one word. Solid, Elite.
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 4: And Mister and Missus Smith is one that's not on
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 4: my list, And if I could redo it, I probably
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 4: would because it's so great, but I'm not gonna take it.
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 4: My Tier three is gonna go to Test and Finn
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 4: from Fools Gold that's played by Kate Hudson and Matthew McConaughey.
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 4: Now at the beginning of the movie they're getting divorced.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 4: The whole movie, they're getting divorced towards Dan. You'll have
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 4: to watch it spoiler alert. They get back together. It's
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 4: a beautiful one in Matthew McConaughey looks phenomenal movie. Not
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 4: to educate.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 1: I actually just read his book green Light. I just
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 1: finished it. This song very solid. Any chance if you
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: like to read books, read Matthew McConaughey's book.
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 4: Shout out Matthew McConaughey. My Tier two is gonna go
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 4: to Vanessa and Deadpool. In the first movie, the passion
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 4: that those two have with each other, trying to outdo
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 4: each other, and how bad their child childhoods are. They
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 4: didn't get engaged with a was it a ring pop?
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: And then all of a.
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 4: Sudden, the big C word comes and obviously we know
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 4: how the whole entire movie goes. My Tier one is
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 4: gonna go to uh, Jeremy Gray and John Beckwith from
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 4: Wedding Crashers. You probably say, Taylor, that's two guys. They
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 4: weren't married. Life in business is like a marriage with
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 4: your best friends. Those two working together tirelessly during wedding
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 4: season to grab and stab all these other beautiful women
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 4: is something that takes a lifelong friendship to achieve, which
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 4: is a marriage. And that is why they're my tier one.
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: All right, I'll go first. I'll say creative because of
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: the of your Tier one.
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 4: Thank you, waam, greatest hits, Mazzele, top.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 3: Ring, Pop, silver medal, those are those are both need
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: gotta say hyphen.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: Hyphenated. Third place?
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 4: Boom boom boom, how many.
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: Three booms?
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, boom boom boom?
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 1: Great?
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 4: Here can you understand? You understood the assignment?
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 1: Like I said, man, outside of football, I love conversation
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: like football. Can you know go for so long?
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 2:10:21
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• 2:10:33
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• 2:10:42
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• 2:10:45
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• 2:10:46
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• 2:10:47
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• 2:10:49
  Speaker 3: So.
• 2:10:49
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• 2:10:51
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• 2:10:53
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• 2:10:55
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• 2:10:57
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• 2:10:58
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• 2:11:04
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• 2:11:11
  Speaker 3: Here's a football here's a question in the football world. However,
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 3: I think it involves you being a student of the
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 3: game and giving game to the fellow young ones out there.
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 3: During the COVID year when a lot of things were virtual.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: You are.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 3: There's a story about you potentially wearing different T shirts
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 3: while you're doing a sprint workout to send it in
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 3: give some game to the young counts out there, and
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 3: how you game.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, you got it. Work smarter, not hired or Borys.
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: You know, that's what it's all about, and that's what
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: you know, keeps you around a lot harder too. So
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 1: you can work as hard as you want. But if
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: you're doing something that's making you insane and you just
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: keep working harder, you're gonna get more insane, you know.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: But you gotta work smarter, so you're supposed to. You know,
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: during COVID, you were doing all the workouts at home
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 1: and you had to send it into an app that
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: you were proved to prove that you were doing the workouts.
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: So you actually had to film yourself like benching and
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 1: film yourself, you know, running the routes or running the sprints,
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: but you didn't have to do the whole entire bench
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 1: like it was like your last set, or you would
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 1: have to, you know, show like two of the runs
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: that you were doing. So instead of filming myself running
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: every time, I just filmed so that day you have
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: twelve runs, so you got to show two of them.
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: So instead of filling myself every single time to submit
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: the runs, I brought out six different T shirts and
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: every two runs I would switch my T shirt up
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: and then film the whole entire run that day, and
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: then I would submit those two runs with a different
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 1: T shirt on every single time that those moments came
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 1: up that I had to submit it, and so I
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: tricked them. I tricked them, So technically maybe I didn't
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: run that day then because I was like, I'll just
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: use the video.
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I hit the bench.
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: Tricked them.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 4: When did do you? Did you tell on yourself or
• 2:12:47
  Speaker 4: did somebody ever find out?
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: I told on myself, told the story to the reporters
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: actually that year and then like once like like what
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: the fuck? I got everyone hitting me up? You're an ass?
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: He thought it was great. That is a funny, funny
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: piece of game.
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 4: Last question, the bud light question. Everybody knows anybody they
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 4: would do anything for a bud light. What is one
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 4: one thing that Rob Gronkowski would do anything for? Can't
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 4: say family?
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 1: Oh uh, well my dog's technically family, right yeah, yeah, girl,
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 1: technically family. Yeah. So what would I do anything for? Ah? Dang,
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 1: you know that's that's a really good question. I would
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 1: do anything to be happy at all times twenty four
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: to seven.
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 4: That would be something special.
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 1: Well, you can't go against that, right, Oh you know,
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think, Yeah, they'd be happy at all times.
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 4: What about what about playing your junior of college?
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, physically that's mentally so now physically I
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: would go back. I would love to play my junior
• 2:14:05
  Speaker 1: year in college. And also I transferred my senior year
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: in high school. If I could somehow play that year
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: that I played in Pittsburgh but also play the year
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 1: at my old old high school as well. Yeah, so
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: if I could like do double senior seasons in high
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: school and play the year my junior year in college
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 1: at Arizona, because you do you like when you leave,
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: like you missed your boy, like I left my boys,
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: like in high school. You know, I went to a
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 1: different school. I was getting trouble and stuff. There's a
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: lot more to it. But then I went to Pittsburgh
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: my senior year. But like, you know, I'm still friends
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: with all those guys like to this day, and like
• 2:14:42
  Speaker 1: you're leaving them, you know, I mean it's for the
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 1: better in the end, Like it worked out for sure,
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: but like still like you wish you could. You know,
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 1: you watch all the high school movies and everything, like
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 1: Friday Night Lights and like you wish you could finish
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 1: strong with the people you started with, but it just
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: didn't work that way. And same with you know, my
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: third year, you know, at the University of Arizona. So
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: I would do anything. You're right mentally to be happy
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 1: at all the times. So it's being happy's great, like
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 1: and energize and energize and then physically go back and
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: play those years.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 3: What's something you weren't necessarily prepared for kind of kind
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 3: of came as a surprise, like during retirement, Like you're
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 3: a guy Hall of Fame career, one of the best
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 3: to ever do it, and you obviously tasted retirement that
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 3: one year and then you came back to Tampa Bay.
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 3: But now you're like officially retired. What's something you feel
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 3: like you didn't necessarily see coming with retirement?
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 1: You know, being on a routine. You know, when you're
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: playing ball and you're an athlete your whole life, you
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: always have a routine. You gotta be at practice, you
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: gotta you know, be in the film room like it's there,
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 1: like it's handed to you like a you know, a
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 1: schedule every single day, that routine you know what to
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 1: do and get prepared for and then once you retire,
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 1: that routine's totally thrown out the window. It's kind of
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 1: up to you now to schedule, you know, when you're
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 1: going to work out, when you're going to do this,
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 1: when you're going to study, all that good stuff. So
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 1: just getting on a routine and when you totally get
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: off of it as well, it fucks with you. You know,
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: like you're you're kind of like mentally weak. Sometimes you're
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 1: flying all over the place, you're not doing the right things,
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 1: you're not getting your workouts in, uh and and all
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: that good stuff. And you're just so used to doing
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 1: all that, you know, on a continuous basis, even if
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 1: you don't feel like it. You have to do it
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 1: when you're an athlete because everyone else is doing it.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: You don't have that push around you. So that that
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 1: was that's the tough spot, is getting that push, you know,
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: to get to the next level. And also that routine
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 1: of always you know, being on the grind and getting
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 1: things done.
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because when it's snowballs, you're just laying there and
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 3: you just get so mad at yourself from falling out
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 3: of a routine. Yeah, then you start talking to yourself
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 3: like in ways like you said, like mentally weak, Like
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 3: I'm fucking for right, Look.
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 4: What's happened to you? You look at an old photo
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 4: of yourself, like that guy worked hard.
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: But you guys, you guys got it down though, Like
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: look at you guys that keep each other, you accountable.
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 1: I bet you know doing the show, you got to
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: get a routine and you know, get prepared for it.
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 1: You know, study up. Same thing with myself and Julian. Uh,
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 1: we got our podcast Dudes on Dudes, So you got
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 1: to prepare for that, get mentally readily kind of physically
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: ready to because you want to be physically feeling good
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 1: at all times. It keeps your mental game sharp. So
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 1: you just got to find, you know, the guys out
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: there that want to get on the same page with
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 1: you and want to do that as well.
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 3: What is it like diving into the podcast world with jewels, Yeah,
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 3: it's great.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 1: And what's great about it, Julian already had his podcast
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 1: games with names, So yeah, Julian was experienced the podcast.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 1: I never thought it was like really for me. I
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: always liked going on people's podcasts, but I was like,
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: I said, no, for like ever, I was like I
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 1: don't want to start my own podcast. But then once
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 1: I went on Julian's and we had the chemistry, and
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: then I saw that Julian can carry the load of
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 1: the podcast too, the load. We were just talking about
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 1: that on Sunday Conversations. He's like, oh, Julian takes the
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: whole load of the podcast. I was like, yeah, so
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: that just brought you a kind of trigger to my mind.
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 1: But I was like, all right, so he's going to
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 1: be the like, he's going to be there to help
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 1: me along and everything, and it's just great to have
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: a teammate. So I was like, this is perfect. And
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 1: his team around him was already experienced, everything set up
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 1: ready to go right when you walk in. So I
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: was like, I can do it now, and it was
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: just the right fit. It's kind of like going to
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 1: Tampa had to be the right fit.
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you travel out there to do it each
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 3: time you guys do the pod?
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm in La all the time for the pregame
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 1: for the Fox show. Uh So we usually just knock
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 1: out an episode or two on like that Monday or
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: Friday or something, and now that it's offseason, we get
• 2:18:19
  Speaker 1: together like we were just in Boston last week. We
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: knocked out two episodes. But if we're not, we just
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: do it over zoom. Got Yeah, so half of them
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: right now in the season are over zoom. The other
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 1: half are one we can get in person whenever we can.
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 3: And we got to get all the boys together.
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we can get the four of us in one room.
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 4: That'd be awesome.
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: There really was, the dudes, it would be good stuff. Gosh,
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 1: are you guys? Basically you guys are like football with
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: a little all football with a little everything else as well.
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like probably seventy percent football and the off
• 2:18:49
  Speaker 4: season two. Like I mean we have like comedians, musicians,
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 4: like all coaches, players, all these different things.
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we were. We were basically out football
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 1: in the first couple though, and I was like, bro,
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not all football, like like I can't. So now
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 1: we're switching up with like fan questions or like or
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 1: that like tier talk that we just did with the
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: movie couples. Like we come up with segments like that
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 1: now too, And I'm like this is way better. Like
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: football is great for half of it, but the other half.
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 1: I wanted up this freelance was going on what you're
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: doing at the moment, like what you learn, like new technique,
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 1: new trick in life or whatever with new hack, just whatever,
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 1: just go off. So not just all about football now
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 1: we're kind of blostoming more like because of it, hot
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: topics whatever he's talked about right there. So football is great,
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, but like to do it twenty four seven.
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 1: I like, I like abroad of you know, of everything.
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 4: I'm with you on that, absolutely with you before we
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 4: let mister Gronkowski go. Does anybody have a question back there?
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: They like to ask anybody feel free. I thought that
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 1: guy in the middle would ask me where I get
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: my ivs from me? You know, we already brought it
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 1: up where you guys get your ivs from you in Nashville.
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 1: So yeah, he does do a good job. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to give him the credit, but he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna yeah. And he does rehydrate you well. So these
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  Speaker 1: unbelievable nurses there that work really hard, yes, and they
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  Speaker 1: actually deserve all the credit, all the women nurses that
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  Speaker 1: he has hired rite in Nashville. They do get you
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  Speaker 4: Run it run. Yeah, I really do without the nurses
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  Speaker 4: all the work at the beginning, yeah started started. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but what we do. Appreciate me for the show. You
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  Speaker 4: were talking about giving us all free i VS like
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  Speaker 4: next two months. So I appreciate you saying.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, and that is awesome. Thank you. And if
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  Speaker 1: you're listening and and you hear this, just walk in
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  Speaker 1: and say I heard you're giving out free i V. Yeah, yes,
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  Speaker 1: on the grond episode free IV.
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  Speaker 4: So that is big time. But you have to give unity.
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  Speaker 1: You have to give it. We're not saying any DAL
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  Speaker 1: vitamin bag, the athlete bag. You have to give out.
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  Speaker 1: Someone comes.
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  Speaker 4: But you remember he was saying.
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  Speaker 1: You were saying that he was giving all of us
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  Speaker 1: n A D for free. Yeah we're getting a yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but they can get If you hear that, you can
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  Speaker 1: get a vitamin bag. Yeah, for free. We don't want
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  Speaker 1: to bankrupt. No, just a big bag.
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  Speaker 4: Get in there, small bag too.
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  Speaker 1: Small, No small bag, big bagsfferent, it's just fluid fluids
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  Speaker 1: five cents, even though you get charged one hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Gotta make a profit. Got to make a profit.
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  Speaker 3: Margins are healthy. Yeah, it's like ice cream, ice cream margins,
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 3: ice cream margins.
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  Speaker 1: Did you have a questions? Hey, I got it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 1: When when do ice cream companies make their most amount
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 1: of money? Yeah? Like what month?
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  Speaker 3: July?
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 1: June? See, that's what you think. It's actually May. It's
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 1: like right when the weather blossoms, because everyone wants to
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 1: hurry up and get there. I heard they make all
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 1: their money for the whole year. Yes, June, July, and
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 1: August are great, but when it's truly packed, it's the
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 1: first month that it as the sun comes out. I
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 1: learned that. That's what That's why I've been that's crazy
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 1: because everyone goes crazy. It's like when the weather's nice outside.
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 1: How how bzonkers is it outside WI.
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  Speaker 4: The first week around?
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Well later in the summertime you go out on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, ah, people like, oh, we've seen the sun
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 1: every single day now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 1: Right, everyone goes ape ship when it's the first you know,
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 1: week of nice weather. Same with the ice cream world when.
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 4: It comes it comes to the ice ground. I don't
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 4: discriminate on weather. I'll take down on ice cream.
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 1: In the middle of January.
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 4: I love that stuff. Love it. Go ahead, Jackie.
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 5: Was the Steve Harvey lego head spike scripted?
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: Damn, damn, that's a good question, and everyone wants to
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: know that. Actually, it's still talked about to this day.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 1: That was a legendary moment by far. We were hosting
• 2:22:43
  Speaker 1: New Year's Eve on Fox, and uh, I spiked Steve
• 2:22:46
  Speaker 1: Harvey lego set of of his head, of his face.
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 1: But uh, what was scripted was that I was gonna
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 1: spike it. Like I knew I was spiking it. They
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: had me, uh in the script, Hey, grink, you're gonna
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 1: spike the Steve le Uh, Steve Harvey legos, not Steve Harvey. Steve.
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  Speaker 1: My names are all over to place. Steve. You're right,
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 1: Steve Harvey. I'm getting him confused with another Steve, I know.
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 1: But the Steve Harvey lego said, hey, you're gonna spike it.
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  Speaker 1: So when I spiked it, that that was kind of
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: you know, understood, understood, that was kind of But his
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 1: reaction was not scripted at all. And I'm not sure
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 1: either if he knew I was gonna spike it or not.
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 1: I knew I was going to from the beginning. I'm
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 1: not sure if he knew, but his reaction was priceless. Man,
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 1: Like it felt like he was truly pissed if he
• 2:23:35
  Speaker 1: truly was, But.
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 3: How was how was the dynamic after around him?
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  Speaker 1: And he was going he didn't bring it up after
• 2:23:41
  Speaker 1: like it was like he was like nice Spike, but
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 1: like he wasn't like out the screen like why the
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 1: fuck did you do that? No? No, like he acted
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 1: like that like when it happened. I mean he kind
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 1: of got me scared. I was like, oh shit, like
• 2:23:53
  Speaker 1: was I really supposed to do that or not? Like
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 1: he's pissed. But it was good. It was TV. It
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 1: was one of my best movements, one of my best
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  Speaker 1: moments on TV of all time. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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• 2:24:07
  Speaker 1: Any other questions back there? I know, but I don't
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 1: like telling anyone that's scripted because everyone truly believes it
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 1: was like right on the spot, like I decided to do.
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 1: Steve sells it. Yeah, he sells it big time. Yeah
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 1: he solid that good. So yeah, it was scripted, but
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: it was kind of it was unscripted. Scripted unscripted scripted.
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