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Guess Who's Coming To Criticize Dinner? (with Mitch and Dando) · Four Finger Discount (Simpsons Podcast)

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, Dan are here. Thanks for checking out the show. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Some of you may or may not be aware, but
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  Speaker 1: back in twenty fifteen, I launched this podcast with my
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  Speaker 1: co host at the time, Mitch, and we reviewed every
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  Speaker 1: episode of the first ten seasons, released a book called
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  Speaker 1: Homer's Odyssey and am Big and Simpson's Guide, and pretty
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  Speaker 1: much just lay the foundation for what has become the
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  Speaker 1: four Finger Discount Network. Fast forward to twenty twenty, Mitch
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  Speaker 1: decided to take a break from podcasting to focus on
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  Speaker 1: things like family and work, and that's where Guy entered
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  Speaker 1: the equation and has been doing a sensational job since
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  Speaker 1: and we'll continue to do so. But now six years later,
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  Speaker 1: Mitch is also back, and he and I are kicking
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  Speaker 1: off where we left off by reviewing season eleven of
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  Speaker 1: The Simpsons and onwards exclusively for our Patreon. We just
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  Speaker 1: released our review of Guesses Coming to Criticizedda, a really
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  Speaker 1: fun episode which you're going to be getting a sneak
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  Speaker 1: peek at here. And if you like what you hear
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  Speaker 1: and you want to hear more Mitch and Dando each
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  Speaker 1: and every month, you can do so by joining the
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  Speaker 1: four Finger Discount family on Patreon, where all of your
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  Speaker 1: support is much appreciated and is so pivotal to the
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  Speaker 1: survival of the forefinger discount that way, But thank you
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  Speaker 1: again for checking out the show, and I hope you
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  Speaker 1: enjoy Mitch and Danda reviewing. Guess who's coming to criticize you?
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  Speaker 1: See you all next week with Guy.
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  Speaker 2: Well least you like the food.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I like food, alright. I like Pitza, I like Babelds.
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  Speaker 3: I like hot dogs with mustard and bee.
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  Speaker 2: I get the picture.
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  Speaker 1: Charlie day Plan, I couldn't even need a baby.
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  Speaker 3: De la la la la la.
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  Speaker 1: Who's that baby?
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  Speaker 2: Do you run the lower four finger discounting?
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  Speaker 1: Once in a great while, we are privileged to experience
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  Speaker 1: a podcast event so extraordinary it becomes part of our
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  Speaker 1: shared heritage. Twenty ten The concept of true crime podcast
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  Speaker 1: is twenty thirteen, Mark Maroon releases these first podcast episode.
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  Speaker 1: Then for a long time, nothing happened until tonight. Behold
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  Speaker 1: the future of podcasting. It's a bitch. Hey, he's back.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing happened that includes our own.
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  Speaker 1: Show it when we only released a book.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that there.
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  Speaker 1: It's nice.
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  Speaker 3: It's nice to be back, Dando. It's necessary to be back. Truthfully,
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  Speaker 3: I've fallen on half times.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you here?
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  Speaker 3: Well, a lot of people won't know this, but I've
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  Speaker 3: actually spent the last five or six years operating Jackie.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: This is a little bit of an industry insider thing.
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  Speaker 3: She is not a real human. She's a very early
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  Speaker 3: AI model, but they didn't have the processing power back
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  Speaker 3: then to handle movement of speech. So I see it
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  Speaker 3: in a control booth and I kind of move her
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  Speaker 3: around the Kiss FM studios. It was the only way
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  Speaker 3: they could get anyone to spend that much time in
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  Speaker 3: a room with Kyle Sandalance. Year after year after year.
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  Speaker 3: It was if they weren't real. But now that's all
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  Speaker 3: fucked up, so I've lost my payday. Sophie Monk, I
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  Speaker 3: applied for that, but that guy, the guy that controls her,
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  Speaker 3: is on a watertight contract. So sitting at home thinking
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  Speaker 3: what am I gonna do? And then out of the blue,
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  Speaker 3: you sent me a message. She said, look, I'll buy
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  Speaker 3: you a tank of fuel if you come around and
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  Speaker 3: record six hundred hours worth of podcast And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: that seems like it's a pretty good hourly rate. So
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  Speaker 3: here I am.
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  Speaker 1: Kyl Sanderlands would you rather drop your pants for food
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  Speaker 1: or work with Kyl Sanders?
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  Speaker 3: I would rather drop my pants for prison.
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  Speaker 1: A Stables's character, whoever that was in OZ? What was
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  Speaker 1: Stables character?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. OZ is a traumatic experience for me
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  Speaker 3: is like a nightmare that you blank on as soon
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  Speaker 3: as you wake up, and all that you know happened
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  Speaker 3: is that you were sweating and afraid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember watching every episode and then I sort
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  Speaker 1: of forgot about the show and we watched SVU for
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  Speaker 1: years back, and I was like a stable you turn to.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, Oz, Oh my god, what was
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  Speaker 1: the one blood of my dick or shitter my knife? No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: my dick or blood of my knife.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever you whatever it is, whatever it is, neither of
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  Speaker 3: those things should be about it. I was what did
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  Speaker 3: I watched yesterday during number two? And Jak goan, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's pretty good. But JK. Simmons is just kind of
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  Speaker 3: lovely in it, and it's just I can't compute it
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  Speaker 3: because his OZ character still rains so large and everything
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  Speaker 3: that he's ever done.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking to Billy West about him recently, because he's
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  Speaker 1: the yellow Eminem and Billy is the red I did
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  Speaker 1: not know that. Yeah, and that's where they did he
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  Speaker 1: take over from. No, he was the very He's always
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  Speaker 1: been the yellow eminem and Billy's always been the red.
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  Speaker 3: Why did I think Phil Harmon was involved in the eminems?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: Phil Harmon was going to be Zap Brannigan before he passed,
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  Speaker 1: and then Billy obviously was given a role and it
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  Speaker 1: was a Phil Hartmon tribute. Is that Brannigan for futuremer
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  Speaker 1: But no, they've always been the eminem But he said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's absolutely lovely to work for with. Yeah, okay, interesting,
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  Speaker 1: but we're here today to review which episode because what
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  Speaker 1: happened is we started a podcast in twenty fifteen and
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  Speaker 1: after a few years or you got to the point
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  Speaker 1: where you stopped watching The Simpsons. Yeah, on a regular basis.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got past the point that I had connected
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  Speaker 3: with it from from my youth, and it felt like
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  Speaker 3: too big of a transition, particularly because we were just
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  Speaker 3: doing this week on week on week that suddenly I
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  Speaker 3: had stepped into a period where I was like, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think I'm going to be able to give the
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  Speaker 3: best take on this to the audience that for what
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Want, I think this is the first time since you
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  Speaker 1: left the show that you've recorded a Simpsons podcast review
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  Speaker 1: in this room. I think it is, Yeah, because we
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  Speaker 1: did it over zoom or whatever it was, and it's
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  Speaker 1: just not the same. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well like COVID had happened around that time, and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you left and the inn COVID appened.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, not only that, it's the first time I've been
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  Speaker 3: to the house for quite a while. Like I come here,
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  Speaker 3: there's a hold and parked out the front. You don't
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  Speaker 3: have a novelty door mat Genuinely.
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  Speaker 1: It's like I grew up. We've got books on his shelf.
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  Speaker 3: I mean books about the Simpsons, but still.
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  Speaker 1: Actually and other things. Got warning book up there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Stewarts in Curry's book Michael Richards book talk about
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  Speaker 1: Michael Richards.
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  Speaker 3: I think so he came.
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  Speaker 1: The time has passed right over that didn't. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like he's been forgived. It was him he had to
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  Speaker 1: get over our reaction to it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, i'd certainly I think that if you
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  Speaker 3: talk in power rankings, that Michael Richards is above Will
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  Speaker 3: Smith or something like that in terms of.
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  Speaker 1: Things that have happened since you left. Will Smith's career
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  Speaker 1: is worse than ours.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, he won an Academy Award and then blew
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  Speaker 3: his career up in the same night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, so he no, he did it first. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but it all happened on the same night. You're right,
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  Speaker 1: But it's like he won the award. Everyone's like, do
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  Speaker 1: we clap?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not what you want as the first actor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't wasn't great. But so I've had another child.
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  Speaker 1: Both my children are now starting school. You've had a child.
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  Speaker 3: I've had a child.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was never on the cards when you're
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  Speaker 1: doing the podcast. No, you were not going to become
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  Speaker 1: a father.
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  Speaker 3: So there's probably some very incriminating evidence of.
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  Speaker 1: Me on record. I don't go back and listen to
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  Speaker 1: the old ones. People are like, he should go back
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  Speaker 1: and like cut out because you guys are always talking
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  Speaker 1: about big Big Roddy's ribbon, ribbons shack whatever it was called.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I actually take pride in the fact that we've
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  Speaker 3: outlasted a lot of our sponsors.
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  Speaker 1: They're still going though, are they. Yeah, you'ready still going
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  Speaker 1: on your ruddy Yeah? Were you? No, you didn't come
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  Speaker 1: I never went there, no, Yeah, because I was in Queensland.
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  Speaker 1: My friends with Friends. Yeah, I just gave us so
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  Speaker 1: much ribs it was great. Yeah, yeah, I mentioned Big
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  Speaker 1: Rodd's ribs again. Maybe even get in touch with it.
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  Speaker 1: They can sponsor this show. Do you reckon? Is this
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  Speaker 1: isn't four finger discount? What is this now?
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  Speaker 3: Is it not fourth finger discount?
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  Speaker 1: Well? Fourthing a discount is like the I guess it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a it's weird because this is the original
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  Speaker 1: fourthinger discounting. But it's like, is this this is exclusive
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  Speaker 1: for Patreon? Is this like a sub category of fourthing
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  Speaker 1: a discount? Was it just I'll just go back to
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  Speaker 1: the archive and wipe everything that guy did for the
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  Speaker 1: last five years. I don't know I made the fifth
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  Speaker 1: Finger now Nah, I don't think so finger. Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But basically what we're doing is we're going to be
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: kicking off because we tried did a soft launch about
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: two or three years ago. Yeah, and it didn't work
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  Speaker 1: out because it was just too hard working around. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Lex was too young.
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  Speaker 3: Your Lex was too young. You booked Grock and then
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  Speaker 3: suddenly I slipped down the contacts list.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, and it wasn't happening. But now we're here,
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  Speaker 1: so we're going to be doing this twice a month.
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  Speaker 1: Are going to start with guess who's went to criticized
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  Speaker 1: in it? Which I thought was't a good episode of
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  Speaker 1: kick Off for you, in particular because you're a I'd
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  Speaker 1: call you a foodie.
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  Speaker 3: A foodie and a snob, yes, the same thing, right,
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  Speaker 3: they go hand in hand.
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  Speaker 1: Can you be a foodie and not be a snob?
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  Speaker 3: Though Homer managed for the first half of this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, until the other s's so good. That's the thing
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  Speaker 1: with being a critic, right do you think do you
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  Speaker 1: buy into the mentality of you have to critique? I
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  Speaker 1: think if you like everything, then you tell everyone that
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  Speaker 1: you like every well.
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  Speaker 3: I think you can critique and still be positive like
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  Speaker 3: a critique. Oh, let's say that you can give feedback.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of see critique as being an overall piece
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  Speaker 3: of good and bad if there is any bad, but
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  Speaker 3: if there's no bad. I think if you're a critic
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  Speaker 3: and you're coming into something with the mentality of I
• 8:42
  Speaker 3: need to find something to dislike, then you'll do a
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  Speaker 3: pretty shitty job of being a critic. And I think
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: back to when you were running the website and I
• 8:52
  Speaker 3: wrote a few video game critiques back then that I
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  Speaker 3: approached it from the angle of who is this for?
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  Speaker 1: And did you really which video games did you critique? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: did you do Batman, Arkhemasylum or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I did that. I did Lego something, okay, Lego,
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  Speaker 3: Jurassic Park. Maybe there were a couple others. I also
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  Speaker 3: did some TV shows from memory back in the day.
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  Speaker 3: But but yeah, for me, it's kind of that thing
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  Speaker 3: of I would rather a review that tells me what
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  Speaker 3: sort of person would like this, And I think that
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  Speaker 3: there's a way that you can do that without having
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  Speaker 3: to shit on what it doesn't do.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen people critique Kevin Smith because they say he
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  Speaker 1: only ever talks positive about things, and his response was, well,
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  Speaker 1: only review stuff that I enjoy. Yeah, I can see it,
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: because he goes, I haven't got time to waste energy
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  Speaker 1: on negativity. If I know I'm not going to like it,
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  Speaker 1: I't bother talking about it. Do you buy into that mantra?
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  Speaker 3: I mean it wouldn't work for all shows, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I do like Kevin's doing it by choice. His show
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  Speaker 3: is not a review show. It's a pop culture show
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  Speaker 3: where he talks about what interests him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, in that sense, why wouldn't you only talk
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  Speaker 3: about stuff that you like. I have heard Kevin talk
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  Speaker 3: about being you know, there'll be movies that have come
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  Speaker 3: up where it's like this is right in the wheelhouse,
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  Speaker 3: and we have to talk about this, and maybe it sucked.
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  Speaker 3: What was the Snyder verse? Well, it's just included all
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  Speaker 3: of the Snyder verse and all of the reasons that
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  Speaker 3: that might have criticism. But he's even that, he still
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  Speaker 3: kind of finds a way to be like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I dug this, I like this bit, and it kind
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  Speaker 3: of is what is left unsaid there because it's there's
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  Speaker 3: a difference between looking for the positives and then lying
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  Speaker 3: to say that something was awesome, Like it's it's easy
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  Speaker 3: to go, yeah, like I liked this and this about it?
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  Speaker 3: Was it what I wanted overall? No, but this is
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  Speaker 3: good And if that's your thing, then go watch it.
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  Speaker 1: What's what shits me about? So many you see it
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  Speaker 1: with younger film critics now on Instagram and TikTok and whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: Everything is the best of something now. I saw a
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  Speaker 1: lot when the Superman movie came out, the recent one,
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  Speaker 1: I was the best superhero movie in decades. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: is it though? It was? It? Just you're just saying
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  Speaker 1: that so you get free to get to the.
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  Speaker 3: Next yir Now, it was just pretty a superhero movie?
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  Speaker 1: Was it any good? Because you're a Superman god? I
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like for me, it was better than Superman Returns.
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  Speaker 1: That was your favorite of the recent ones, wasn't it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Like, I, for all of its flaws, I still preferred
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  Speaker 3: that over any of the Cavil films because it had optimism.
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  Speaker 1: So I think you can think Nolan for that. I
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  Speaker 1: reckon the lack of optimism and superhero movie.
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  Speaker 3: It's an interesting one that actually, because no one's normally
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  Speaker 3: pretty good at tapping in to what a character actually is.
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  Speaker 3: So like, I don't think that he painted that with
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  Speaker 3: a bleak brush. I'd be curious to know how much
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  Speaker 3: of a producer's hand he had on that versus how
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  Speaker 3: much of it was just. I also think that as
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  Speaker 3: a director, he'd probably be less inclined to try to
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  Speaker 3: shape another director's vision. If he wanted to tell his
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: Superman movie, he would have just said old direct But yeah,
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: so Superman one and two and then this one's called
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  Speaker 3: Man of Steel.
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  Speaker 1: The old one old one. It was just for Superman,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't it?
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  Speaker 3: Is it just called Superman very well?
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  Speaker 1: Might have been.
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  Speaker 3: That's a memorable it was, yeah, and Returns and it's
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  Speaker 3: just course Returns because it's a beautiful homage to my
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  Speaker 3: favorite ones, but it's also weaker overall.
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  Speaker 1: I have you been to any recent films. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to go see Project Hail Mary heard it's great.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm keen for that. I love that book.
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  Speaker 1: That was really really good. Large a song sung Blue
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  Speaker 1: ops it on the podcast I Haven't See. I saw
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  Speaker 1: the ads and stuff and thought, oh, it's Neil Diamond biopic.
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  Speaker 1: It's not. It's about the story of a Neil Diamond
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  Speaker 1: cover band, yeah, and just the chaos of their life.
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  Speaker 1: And it's actually great.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, h No, I missed Avatar. I double booked. I
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  Speaker 3: was going to go see Avatar three D. I actually
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: was in Bali and that was on the low. There
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  Speaker 3: was an IMAX over in Bali. Now in snore like
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: five Australian dollars to go see Avatar in three D
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  Speaker 3: in Imax over there.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a twenty dollars Amazon projector just like pulled
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  Speaker 1: really far back.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I never found out because it was only on
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  Speaker 3: the first night that we arrived and I was pretty cooked,
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  Speaker 3: so I was like I saw it was like great,
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  Speaker 3: I'll come back in two days and saying I'll.
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  Speaker 1: Go a little later. I'll go a little later.
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  Speaker 3: And when I came back, they were only playing mothering heights.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't not funny how that moment just sticks with you.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's the perfect thing to use when you
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  Speaker 1: when you just leave something for too long. I'll go
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  Speaker 1: a little later with your chicken. Yes exactly. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: become I'm sure this will be in the edit. But
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  Speaker 1: Dando just ran out on me. He left chicken in
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  Speaker 1: the other The first person done this too. It's happened
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  Speaker 1: regular times. I've been put chicken in the oven. Late thing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like cooking chicken podcast. The chicken I didn't
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  Speaker 1: cook this likeily this time wasn't my fault. Nicola went
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  Speaker 1: out for dinner, which like, I've put some chicken in
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  Speaker 1: the oven and needs to be cooking. He's keep an
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  Speaker 1: eye on it. I'm like, well, I'm about to start
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  Speaker 1: recording your podcast. But okay, what I enjoyed the most
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  Speaker 1: that again was my scuttle No it was that you
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  Speaker 1: heard the chicken. So you have your headphones on, and
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  Speaker 1: you didn't look at your not wearing a watch. You
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  Speaker 1: didn't look at the time, you didn't look at your laptop.
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  Speaker 1: You went, I've got to take some chicken out. You
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  Speaker 1: can hear putting. Oh's a funny story about Superman. So
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  Speaker 1: the kids love Superman one, and I've got all four
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  Speaker 1: on four K, and they wanted to watch Superman two. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: don't putting it in. And I didn't say Superman two
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  Speaker 1: for a long time. Maybe i'd opened it. I hadn't
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  Speaker 1: watched a four K probably on the cut or the Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's I think it's the only version you get on
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  Speaker 1: four K. And you know I put the disk in.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting there. I'm sort of like cooking their getting
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: their lunch, eating and stuff, and I'm watching them like, man,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: this ship. This weird. I don't remember it's being It's
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: a really weird start anyway, watching it, Richard prior, Oh ship,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like Richard, Oh no, the Supman three.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: The only the only saving grace for the kids is
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: that you left them somewhere to go.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Yes. The thing is the covers look so similar because
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: they released them all though very similar, just a Superman
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: one Superman two. I just grabbed it because obviously I
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: put it on the shlf on the wrong spots. I
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: just grabbed it, didn't look and I was like, I
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: don't remember being this weird at the start, but yeah,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: I've got Obviously Superman two went in and the kids
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: loved it.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, good. And then I actually still have
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: a soft spot for four. What's so bad that the
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: Quest for Quest for Peace Superman verse? He throws all
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: of the nuclear bombs in the world into the sun,
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: And don't we need that right now? Yeah?
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: We really do. Yeah. Anyway, what do you think of
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: this episode? I guess who's come to criticized dinner? So
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: this is how much Simpsons have you watched since leaving
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: the podcast at all? You haven't shown lex any.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: Best part of it. I did turn it on for it,
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: just to see if she'd be visually interested in it.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Old or new ones, because the new one is more
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: visually stimulating, I think.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, Now I went with I don't know what,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: something from probably season three or four. I was trying
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: to I was actually it was just a point where
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: I was flicking around and seeing what sticks.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: What she did like was BoJack Horseman. Really got into
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: the visuals of that. And I think the opening theme song.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Because putting the Simpsons on now for my kids like
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: the old ones, is the equivalent of my mum putting
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: on like a Scooby Doo cartoon visually. Yeah, it looks scratchy. Yeah,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched much at all.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: I have probably, just like for pleasure, watched a handful
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: of episodes over the last few years. I think the
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: last one that I watched was it She and Scratchy
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: in March season two.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think doing the podcast made you want
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: to watch the show list less?
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: I needed to put some distance between myself and the show, Yeah,
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: to be able to try to just watch it and
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: be entertained by it again as opposed I'm.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Only just starting to be able to do that. The
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: thing is, I think I'll put on for the kids,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: and my kids are old enough where they can sort
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: of understand some of the jokes and whatnot, and seeing
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: them enjoy it for the first time and sort of
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: living by carefully through that and stuff like I put
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Who Shot Mister Burns on? And they didn't know what
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: it was like, this is cool seeing kids, seeing my
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: kids experience the same way I did.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when lex is a couple of years older,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: that will be something that I do really look forward to.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: There's a few things like that. Actually I kind of
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: have like a not actually written down, but I have
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: a mental list.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Of movies to show her what's your bocket.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: List based on various points of her life. I was
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: thinking about how cool it's going to be a show.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I still haven't shown all yet, but he watched out
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: the first thirty minutes. He sort of turned a me
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: in his like when did the dinosaurs start? And I
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: was like, forty minutes in, there's barely any dinosaurs. There
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: aren't much that many dinosaurs in this movie.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I suppose that is something where the pacing
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: of films is really different these days.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a weird one.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: With Jurassic Park. You need to get in maybe a
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: little earlier than you otherwise would, because part of you
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: might be like, dinosaurs is going to scare a five
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: year old, But if that five year old turns into
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: an eight year old who's seen a bunch of other
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: hyperactive movies where there's like, shit's got to happen in
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: the first five minutes or they're not going to keep
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: watching and they'll stop streaming. Then you've kind of primed
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: them to go. Be like if you and I sat
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: down right now to watch Lawrence of Arabia, Yeah, like,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: when's Lawrence going to fire a gun?
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Skip intro? Speaking of right, so, because kids just don't
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: like sitting through credits, but I put Space on my
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: kids lost Space Jam right, you know, it's bright's colorful
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: shit going on. And Ali had a couple of friends
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: over I mentioned some on the podcast. Another one we
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: did or did Big Guy and he had two friends.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Once they're fine, but the intro came on, It's like, no,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: fucking MJ's doing slam dunks. You've got the Space Jam
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: song playing. It's great. This kid's just like push the
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: button skip intro. I'm like, are you out of your mind? Child?
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: It's Michael Jordan doing slam dunks to the Space Jam song.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: He's like, skip intro. When do we skip intro?
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I can't tolerate that. And Lex will
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: not grow up and a skip intro household. Yeah that
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: the intro sets the tying as the little as you
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: removes boosh gets the senses going.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: And we sound like old men shaking their fistic cloud.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: But it's very important, Like trained my kids to realize,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: you don't skip the intros.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: You are gonna watch this feather float through the air
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: for five fucking minutes before Tom Hanks speaks, and you're
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: gonna enjoy every second of it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: See my kids have, they've watched every episode of Fresh Prince.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: They stream the share the Fresh Prince.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: They get that intro.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: The first time I put they skipped intro, I was like,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: give me the remote, hold the phone. I went back
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: to the start and I said, you do not skip
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: this one. Do never skip this one actually tells you
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the story. And now they lost into in the car like, ah,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: oh shit. Intros are actually there's a point to them.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: But you watch chasing how quickly that happened. Where Like
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: not long ago, Game of Thrones was praised for its intro. Yeah,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: and we have five six years later and no one
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: be paying any attention to it. Yeah he was when
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: the breaking bad music kicked in and things like that. Yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: at least that short. Yes, we're watch taking bad as
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: a self skipping intro see how.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Guilty Pleasure show is s for you? Nicola and I
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: we'll watch it, watch it all the time, but we
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: will put it on occasionally. And the other night Nicola
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: like fucking skipped intro on the SVU intro. I was like, Nikola,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: so I turned her and she looked at me. She
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I didn't mean to. I'm like, you
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: better not, dav This that leads.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Me into the first question that I wrote, And it
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: doesn't answer how do I feel about the question? But
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: do you still watch the Simpsons intro when you're doing these?
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Because I watched it in full for the couple episodes
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: that we're talking about.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I do when I'm doing it for the review because
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like I just want to get into watching
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: it mode. Yeah, yeah, I skipped the intro noun on
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Disney Plus to the point, now can you believe this?
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: We had Matt someone on the show cause I noticed
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it season thirty seven. They don't do the intro anymore really,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: because there's no point, just cold they I would have
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: learned from the stats that people were skipping the intro,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: so what's the point? And he said, I would rather
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: dedicate time to storytelling than have any intro.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: This is another one of those reasons that I just
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: want the Internet to be shut off, be perfectly honest.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: People are too quick to like just settle in.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah joy Yeah. So even the couch gags and I
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: have there's no couch gag.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Recording twenty two minutes, it's all intro.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the credits haven't stopped yet, there's no there's no
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: couch gags or anything. They had a couch gag for
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: the eight hundred episode because it was a special one,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: but now it just goes the Simsons and it sort
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: of phades just in zooms into one of the letters
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and goes him and that's the end of the episode,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: just starts. Yeah okay, because they were saying people were
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: just skipping it, So why waste forty five seconds of
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: storytelling time on something that people are going to skip anyway?
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Thirty seven years that's admirable because I would be like,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: can we drag that intro out to three minutes people
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: skip it anyway, and that way I don't have to write.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: This match then this isn't actually pretty good. I would
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: advise checking out the newer episodes, probably like season thirty
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: five onwards. Yeah, because ol Genus left the show and
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: now Matt Selman is taken over a show, we've got
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: a fresh voice. Yeah. Well, he was pretty much supposed
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: running the show anyway, but now he's officially the solo showrunner.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: He can just do what he wants having to get
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the approval from up above, and yeah, it's better for it,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: all right? Sweet this episode? What did you like?
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Ah?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: What did I like?
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I liked that this was a wacky but believable enough
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: side plot, not side plot, but the idea of Homer
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: gets a new job and does whatever. And I kind
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: of liked that the fact that Lisa was the ghost
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: writer of all of it, and Homer and Lisa working
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: together hearkens back to earlier episodes and some really strong
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: episodes where they would be in on things forgive me
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: for forgetting. Yeah, the gambling one is the one that
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: it kind of evoked. I also liked that for a
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: small period there, Homer actually found a second thing to
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: do that is genuinely good at. And what I mean
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: by that is he couldn't write, obviously, but he's genuinely
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: good at eating food, and he was genuinely good at
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: finding stuff to be delicious and he made people happy
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: and that there wasn't any real spite or mean spiritedness
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: in the episode overall. So it kind of felt of
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: an earlier error to a degree.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Because he didn't start becoming rude with with his reviews
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: until the other critics convinced him to do so peer
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: pressured him. It didn't just become a dick. He was
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: buckling to peer pressure.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was doing it because he thought that's what
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: you're supposed to do.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I do think they could have maybe focused more on
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: the Lisa homodynamic and her being sad that they had
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: this thing going well together and she was enjoying having
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: her stuff printed in the paper yep, and now she's
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: no longer able to do that, she can't work with
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: him as a team anymore, and she was and seeing
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the impact that had on her.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that would be, you know, the legacy, and
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: I do want to try to avoid doing that versus
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: or then really try to. Yeah, it's hard, but that
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: would be If this was a James L. Brooks error,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: they definitely would have done that.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: That would have been the focus, not some wacky let's
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: make a bigger Claire Le bomb, Yeah, to kill him overall.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: The other thing that I kind of took away from
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: it was kind of forgotten that the pace of the
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: jokes just slows down a little bit. Yeah, And I
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: guess there'sn't that element of which we've spoke about many
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: many years ago, of the change in the writer's room
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: culture that you wouldn't stay there until three in the
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: morning trying to carve out the absolutely every last ounce
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: of a joke. So there's really good jokes in this
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I just found them less frequent. But I did have
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: some really really big bally laughs.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Are we surprised by that? We enjoyed by that knowing
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: because you know, this isn't this isn't your era. No,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I had you seen this one before?
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I wasn't surprised by it. It's not
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: like I knew that. It's not like I thought the
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: show wouldn't be funny, just not as Yeah, Like I
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: didn't think it was like, yeah, ten out of ten
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: fucking one. It was more like a tapers and there
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: were there are other things of a higher quality that
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'll invest my time over here. And
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: South Park was coming along as a pretty fresh voice.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: This was ninety nine. South Park kicked off in ninety seven,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: ninety eight year. Yeah, so it was more that it
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, it's this new shiny toy and family
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: were your family guy going. Yeah, when it started the
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: first season, I think the family Guy because it was
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: different ye, Futurama and Dilbert, and it was quite a
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: big deal with at the time, and Scott Adams made
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Rest in Peace. I had recently Scott, A lot of
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: people didn't like the guy.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Oh he's a bastard. I hate to speak ill of
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: the dead, dad note, but fuck.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Me speaking of ill of the dead. Speaking of speaking
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: of ill of the dead, I should say. We spoke
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to Jay Kergan today for our last exit at the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Springfield Reviewer. But yeat at some point some negative things
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: to say about Sam Simon, which really, really I was
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: surprised by because you only ever hear nicest guy. You know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: he dedicated a lot of his money to looking after animals,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and yeah, he's lovely and apparently just a motherfucker to
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: work with, right. Yeah, but it's like, you know, it
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: was explaining you've got to have that mongrel to you
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: to get results on that dog at him. Yeah, So
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: look at for that last exit of the Springfield. But
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you're right though with the with the amount of gags,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: because Last Exit Springfield is one of those episodes it's
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: just jo jo jo Jo joke, Joe joke. And then
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: you watch this one. This one's almost like a breath
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: of fresh air to an extent because you can sort
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: of relax a bit. Yeah, but in saying that it's
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: not as funny as a result, No, it's a different
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: kind of funny. I guess, yeah it is.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: And like I said, it's like if I could spoil
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: my absolute favorite moment in the episode and the funniest part.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: So at the beginning, the little callback I haven't seen
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: for four years, Like, no, that's funny. But then when
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: they're at the dinner table, it's like passed on, pass
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: it on, passing on. We just want to know where
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: our Sunday is, Kils. It's like that that slayed me.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: And as much as you know, structurally it's pulled back
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: and reveal, but execute it so.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: So fucking well because the thing is Utter gets attacked.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I think it's Pta de Spam, which is like season six,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: and I think you might see him nah, because he's
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: in dast Bus, I think anyway, But like the last
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: field trip, he gets like left behind and they get
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a beat the shit out of him basically, and you
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: think they've killed Uda. And I think that's what this
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: joke is referring to, that we haven't seen him since
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that field trip. But even though he has been seen since,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I thought it was dust Bus and maybe
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: he just got left on the island, but bands is
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: that they remember they're looking over the fence and yeah,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: the but regardless, I just I think that that is
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: one where if it's joke jo jo jo joke joke,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: then that one doesn't hit as hard. So you know,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: that was just very very funny.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: So Asna he played the editor, Yeah right, and the
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: old man from up.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I did not look that up, but I knew that
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: voice was familiar to Yeah.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I thought he did a good job. Apparently it's based
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: on Lou Grant, who was a character from the marytyle
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: More show, which is James L. So, James L. Brooks
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: created that show. He created the character of Lou Grant,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and that's who this editor was based on.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's a deep cut references it is.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I thought he did a good job as
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: the editor.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, other than if you can write me one article,
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I'll put you on the payroll.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: The logic of it.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's how Mary Tyler Moore got to work. I
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: haven't seen enough of that show, but yeah, I was like, Oh,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: that's that's a swing. Anyone can stitch. Maybe not anyone,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: but a lot of people could stitch five hundred words together.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: In this job market. It's probably not happening.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Was bobs Burgers in this economy? Yeah? I have watched
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Bob bobs Burgers. I think in this economy can be
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: anything that speaking of things that are a bit logical.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: So there's no E on the typewriter. Explain to me
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: how he repeatedly writes screw Flanders. Mmm, I mean you could,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I guess write screw Flanders without the E would be
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: incorrectly that.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: I hadn't noticed that. In a moment, my brain was
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: willing to go along with that for the quality of
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the joke.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was. And then I like the call back
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: again later on two more words, screw Flanders appetite, Yes, indeed,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: have you.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: What's the dodgiest trick you ever pulled?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: For a word? Count, when's the last night to write
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: some for all? Work out what do we do for
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: our book? Do we just do we do for a book?
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Book was like seventy thousand words, wasn't it.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did some padding, Yeah that quick, get some trivia,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: find an interview that we did, let's transcribe it, transcribe,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: transcribe our conversations. I remember discovering the trick that you
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: could chuck words sort of around the margins or at
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: the bottom of the top of a page in Microsoft
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Word and then just change it to a white font.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: So when did that go?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Tools word count? They'd be like, that's it the mark
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: and how did you do that?
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Did you be a call for it?
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Two or three times? Early days of computers where it
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: was like, let's just take a swing that they don't
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: know what they're doing, and I'll be okay.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: How tempted would you be now if you're doing year
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: twelve now to use GPT for writing stuff or at
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: least give you an idea of where to go with something.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I'd be an idea.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would one hundred percent use it for structure.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I wouldn't just copy page.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I actually something happen at work a little while ago,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: where I had used co pilot to kind of help
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: structure the way something should be. And I put it
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: all together and I rewrote a bunch and I sent
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: it to my manager and they were like, this is
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: really good, except this paragraph here. Can you make that
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: sound less like copilot? And it was the only paragraph
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: that I wrote that is one hundred percent. I made
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: that up.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: The rest wasn't.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: No, he knew that that was fine.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's the joke.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Maybe he was in on it. Maybe he realized this
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: is this is too shit to be copilot. Maybe I
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: just used a few to a few too many fancy words.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: I think, just me, I was just I just kept
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: it simple. I just never abbreviated anything because I am
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: yeah it is ah, yeah, that does work.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: That's a really good way to go, and it needs
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: to go. You really should be using more abbreviation. Why yeah,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: you're want of whats a thousand words?
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: This is the way the language was invented. Is it not.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: My favorite favorite moments from the episode? As I said,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't actually write any favorite moments, but I'm sure
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I can wing something. Yeah.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I think that was mostly what I had to remove
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: all traces of asbestos and references to evolution has aged
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: frighteningly well.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Because this episode and twenty seven years ago mind boggling.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty nuts.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: But this feels like it still feels starts like a
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: newer episode, doesn't it. Yeah, I think someone like you
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: who hasn't watched the new or newer ones. When I
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: was a kid, he can Hear Pudding.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Was a joke that I really really liked. And it's
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: a great life. It's a great line reading, yeah, said
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: with admiration.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: It's just we can hear pudding. Yeah, yeah, his admiration.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: You're right. I liked when I was a kid that
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: growing grabbingly, growing grabbingly good team.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, interestingly, that's one that I wrote down for Age
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: the Worst, just describing a father daughter relationship as growing gravitally,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: and it felt like that was dangerous territory?
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Was that ever? Not dangerous territory? Though I wouldn't say
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: aged terribly, It was just was there ever an acceptable
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: term for a daddy daughter team.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: There's been quite a few prominent legal actions recently that
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: would suggests that maybe people look the other way about it.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Ninety ninety nine.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't mind, Homer just it doesn't really make sense.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: But I got two words for you much cheek and beak.
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: What what is shaking bake? I'm going to google it
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: because I've never seen it in Australia.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you hear about a lot in American TV. Yeah,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: shake and bake. It is a seasoned bread crumb coating
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: originally marketed to mimic the flavor and texture of fried chicken,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: introduced to nine in sixty five by General Foods. Of
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: course there's a breadcumb seasoning bread whatte season bread crumbs?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Bread cumb season Well, at least with that you wouldn't
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: need to bother whipping an egg. Actually, that's a good
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: way the egg whisk gag, putting together the egg whisky
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: from the case as.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: If it was a rifle. Very cool, kind of assassin.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Putting in the usual the antidote at the end. Yeah, yeah,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: so I noticed something by the way, something on the.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Actually felt very Steve Martin. Yeah, that felt a little
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: bit like a sort of physic comedy skit that he
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: would do. Yeah, because it's something that you've brought on
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: the floor down here, have we save it for the end.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: We're gonna do it before we get into like a
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: little quick run through. We'll save it for the end,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: so over the end. Yeah, we'll get something I'm gonna
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: give to you before I supposed to get to the
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: start and I forgot.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: All right, here is something for you. It's this, Ah,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I've got a giant Cats mug. You've got a giant
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Hawk smug. Because let's be honest, these were the best
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: mascots in AFL history, right, these two specific ones, these
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: two specific ones. Yes, I like that the Hawk mascot
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: looks like Dermy he does. It was definitely designed to
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: look at it does. Yeah, I will showed to go back.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I feel like everything needs to be simplified now, everything
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: sort of. You go to macasine looks like an Ikea store.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: It's all simplied. McDonald doesn't even sa McDonalds anymore than science.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: They've taken the way McDonald's away. It's just a giant
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: m now.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Interesting, you know, Lex calls McDonald's old McDonald's. She learned
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: the song first, and it's very wholesome.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: And I won't correct These are things when their kids
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: right and they say things incorrectly, don't correct them. Yeah, No,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: because once they corrected that and do it anymore, you know, no,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: it's gone.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually have a little keep note file of
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: lexisms of things that she used to say I wish
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: I did lately as an educator named Trinity, that she
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: would go on this like almost endless run where she
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: pronounced the name of Trinity and it was yeah, I
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: don't want that to change.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: See Alliott. I can't explain why, but his original way
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: of saying thank you, he'd say button, so he go
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: thank you, you go bum and then one day he
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: just goes thank you and oh, oh but bum.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: He's just like that's in the Cradle in the Silver Spell.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I never fee the day where he said thank you
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: for the person. I was like, oh, that's the end
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: of Barton.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's illogical, makes no sense of the first time
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Las lacks first time lex pronounced helicopter, yeah, correctly because
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: that was Halli Potter. Yeah, it's time.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's like it's actually a better word. I'd prefer
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: called Halli Potter. That's what in the new Harry Potter film,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: that's what he'd be flying around. Fuck the room stick