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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Some breaking news now on
- 0:12Speaker 1: a story that we have been following for quite some time. Yes,
- 0:14Speaker 1: police officers and ambulances are outside the home of Fotus
- 0:18Speaker 1: Dulos in Farmington, Connecticut. That's happening right now. We're told
- 0:22Speaker 1: Dulos was found unresponsive at his home. Duloci, right remember,
- 0:27Speaker 1: is charged with murdering his estranged wife, Jennifer. He was
- 0:30Speaker 1: summoned to an emergency bail hearing this morning. The bail
- 0:34Speaker 1: hearing came after an insurance company raised some questions about
- 0:38Speaker 1: his six million dollar bond. Now. That hearing was scheduled
- 0:42Speaker 1: to begin right around noon, but Dulos never showed up.
- 0:46Speaker 1: There was a distinct possibility that his bail could have
- 0:49Speaker 1: been revoked today. Dulos and his girlfriend, Michelle Traconis were
- 0:53Speaker 1: charged last year with two counts of tampering with evidence
- 0:56Speaker 1: and hindering prosecution. Jennifer Dulas's body has been missing. She's
- 1:02Speaker 1: been missing since last May and investigators have never recovered
- 1:06Speaker 1: her body. It was on the banner of every TV screen,
- 1:10Speaker 1: Potus Dulos dead. Well, he's not. He is, however, in
- 1:15Speaker 1: perilous condition being treated at a Bronx Hospital after chipping
- 1:20Speaker 1: suicide by gassing himself with a carbon monoxide in his
- 1:24Speaker 1: own garage when emergency vehicles got there. When police got
- 1:29Speaker 1: there because he was basically late for court hearing, they
- 1:32Speaker 1: looked through the window and see him slumped over the
- 1:34Speaker 1: wheel and his car break in and saved his life.
- 1:37Speaker 1: We think joining me right now. All Star panel Jason Oceans,
- 1:42Speaker 1: Bobby Chico, doctor Bethany Marshall, Karen Karen Smith, and Levipage
- 1:48Speaker 1: Climb online dot Com investigator reporter Levi. What happened So
- 1:51Speaker 1: Nancy Potus Dulos, who's a murder suspect in his estranged
- 1:55Speaker 1: wife's disappearance, tried to commit suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Officers conducted a welfare check, found him unresponsive in his garage.
- 2:06Speaker 1: They thought he was dead. Thirty minutes went by and
- 2:09Speaker 1: they finally discovered a faint pulse and he is currently
- 2:12Speaker 1: on life support in New York City. And this all
- 2:16Speaker 1: happened because he had been told that there was problems
- 2:19Speaker 1: with the collateral of his bond and that it could
- 2:23Speaker 1: be revoked, and apparently that upset him that he may
- 2:26Speaker 1: have to go to jail, so he tried to commit suicide.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Here's the kicker, Doctor Bethany Marshall, psycho analyst in Beverly Hills.
- 2:33Speaker 1: You can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany. Here's the deal. He was gonna lose his
- 2:39Speaker 1: bond maybe and have to go to jail, so he
- 2:45Speaker 1: tries to kill himself. If he kills himself, we and
- 2:49Speaker 1: Jennifer's children will never know what happened to her. That's
- 2:53Speaker 1: absolutely correct. So he dies with his secrets. But Nancy,
- 2:57Speaker 1: do you remember that he chased Jennifer through the house.
- 3:00Speaker 1: She was locked in a bedroom. He was pounding on
- 3:03Speaker 1: the doors that the housekeeper reported this. This is a
- 3:06Speaker 1: very angry, aggressive man. And we know that the homicidal
- 3:11Speaker 1: instinct and the suicidal instinct lie side by side. In
- 3:14Speaker 1: other words, somebody who's likely to kill or aggress against
- 3:18Speaker 1: another person can direct all of that aggression back against
- 3:24Speaker 1: the self. So I think that same ragefulness he had
- 3:27Speaker 1: towards others and impulsivity and inability to regulate his emotions
- 3:33Speaker 1: led to the suicidality. He did not want to face
- 3:36Speaker 1: the consequences of his actions, and sadly, in trying to
- 3:39Speaker 1: take his own life and the fact that he's on
- 3:41Speaker 1: life support. You're absolutely correct. We may never ever know
- 3:45Speaker 1: exactly what happened to Jennifer if he does die, because
- 3:48Speaker 1: I think he's in a critical state, so there's no
- 3:51Speaker 1: guarantee that he's going to be able to talk after this.
- 3:54Speaker 1: Takulosten our friends at w f s B three. This
- 3:57Speaker 1: is Courtney Zeller photos. Dulos was expected in court in
- 4:01Speaker 1: Stanford around noontime today. She had seen a woman at
- 4:07Speaker 1: the home. At his home, she had left maybe about
- 4:10Speaker 1: eleven thirty. Then shortly after that, that's when we started
- 4:14Speaker 1: noticing a few local police cars coming through here and
- 4:19Speaker 1: a few officers. Then state police arrived on scene, and
- 4:25Speaker 1: that's when we saw. In between that time that there
- 4:29Speaker 1: was a man laying on the ground. They were performing
- 4:31Speaker 1: CPR for at least fifteen minutes, and then they started
- 4:35Speaker 1: putting up those tents. That woman returned. We saw her
- 4:42Speaker 1: in video that we captured and she was running in
- 4:45Speaker 1: the back of the house where this was all unfolding,
- 4:48Speaker 1: where police were doing CPR. They had the man on
- 4:52Speaker 1: the ground and we witnessed that firsthand. But if you
- 4:58Speaker 1: are just joining us, we are hearing from multiple sources
- 5:01Speaker 1: that photos Dulos has been pronounced dead, but he wasn't
- 5:06Speaker 1: straight out to Jason Oshow's New York defense attorney, but
- 5:10Speaker 1: practices all over the country. Jason in a nutshell explain
- 5:14Speaker 1: to me why his BOD most likely would have been revoked.
- 5:17Speaker 1: He just couldn't take being behind bars. Apparently. Well, Nancy,
- 5:20Speaker 1: you know, if if you're looking at you know, sort
- 5:22Speaker 1: of profiling the type of person that he is always
- 5:26Speaker 1: in control, uh, you know, that type of heart charging
- 5:31Speaker 1: individual for the good or the bad. And I think,
- 5:35Speaker 1: as you said, he saw that that surety crumbling a
- 5:38Speaker 1: bit with some of the assets that were put up
- 5:42Speaker 1: for that, and he took control. If if he was
- 5:47Speaker 1: going to be incarcerated, then this was his decision, so
- 5:50Speaker 1: that no one was going to get him. He was
- 5:52Speaker 1: gonna get himself, and this was his methodology of doing it. So, oh, Jason, play,
- 6:00Speaker 1: he's just stopped. His wife is dead, massive amounts of
- 6:04Speaker 1: blood found on her bra, her shirt, all over the garage,
- 6:08Speaker 1: and now he faces the prospect of potentially getting his
- 6:12Speaker 1: bell revoked. You know, it's one thing to pick on
- 6:16Speaker 1: somebody weak or less cunning than you, But then when
- 6:19Speaker 1: the tables are turned. Bobby Chico, former special asent FBI,
- 6:24Speaker 1: start our Facebook watched series Curse of Aqacre. What do
- 6:27Speaker 1: you think. Well, I've come across guys like this before,
- 6:30Speaker 1: these supreme narcissists who just can't stand to lose control
- 6:34Speaker 1: and they have to dominate and bully everybody in their lives,
- 6:37Speaker 1: and we still the supreme bullying. Ultimately that probably ended
- 6:40Speaker 1: in his wife's death at his hands, and he just
- 6:43Speaker 1: can't stand to be under the control of anybody else.
- 6:46Speaker 1: He wasn't going to go to jail where someone was
- 6:47Speaker 1: going to tell him when to go to sleep, when
- 6:49Speaker 1: to wake up, what to eat, when to eat. So
- 6:52Speaker 1: I think that this guy is one of those bullies
- 6:54Speaker 1: that's so so narcissistic that he looked at a life
- 6:58Speaker 1: that where he wasn't in control and couldn't, you know,
- 7:01Speaker 1: assert his own power and dominance over other people that
- 7:04Speaker 1: he could not he could not picture himself in that life,
- 7:07Speaker 1: and that narcissistic tendency is so powerful within them it's
- 7:11Speaker 1: actually worth taking his own life rather than to submit
- 7:14Speaker 1: to that kind of life. Yeah, well, that's what happens
- 7:16Speaker 1: when you murder your wife. Apes alleged late murder your wife.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Karen Smith joining me from LA Forensics expert lecturer University
- 7:25Speaker 1: Florida and host of Shattered Souls podcast. Karen, what can
- 7:30Speaker 1: we learn now? And this absolutely will come in front
- 7:33Speaker 1: of a jury if it ever goes to trial. Absolutely
- 7:36Speaker 1: it will if he's able to stand trial. At this point,
- 7:38Speaker 1: you know he's in critical condition from carbon monoxide poisoning Nancy.
- 7:42Speaker 1: That will kill you in minutes. The fact that the
- 7:45Speaker 1: paramedics and rescue got there so quickly is yes, it's
- 7:48Speaker 1: a good thing. Hopefully he can recover from this. But
- 7:50Speaker 1: here's the problem. Carbon monoxide binds to the hemoglobin in
- 7:54Speaker 1: blood two hundred times more efficiently than oxygen does. That
- 7:58Speaker 1: quickly will take over your brain. You'll loseiousness and that
- 8:01Speaker 1: can cause memory loss, confusion. I don't know if this
- 8:06Speaker 1: guy is ever going to be the same and able
- 8:08Speaker 1: to give any information if he does in fact recover
- 8:12Speaker 1: from doing this to himself and last to you. Doctor
- 8:15Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, psychoalist out of Beverly Hills. You can find
- 8:18Speaker 1: her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. What will this
- 8:21Speaker 1: mean for the children? As photos Dulos is never tried
- 8:26Speaker 1: because the damage done to his body. If he lives,
- 8:30Speaker 1: we'll never know what happened to Jennifer, and they won't
- 8:33Speaker 1: have a dad as well, Nancy. Even if he was
- 8:36Speaker 1: behind bars and they knew what their dad was a
- 8:39Speaker 1: live safe here on earth, that would be an attachment
- 8:43Speaker 1: that would sustain them throughout their lives, even if their
- 8:45Speaker 1: dad's a monster or homicidal. These are very little kids.
- 8:49Speaker 1: They still need their fathers. So they've had the death
- 8:52Speaker 1: of their mother, now potentially the death of their father.
- 8:55Speaker 1: These two children are orphans. Later on, they'll want to
- 8:59Speaker 1: know what happened, but right now they just need her dad,
- 9:02Speaker 1: a live, comforting present able to hold them. And that's
- 9:06Speaker 1: the biggest tragedy is that they will not have him
- 9:09Speaker 1: in any kind of a good, good shape in order
- 9:12Speaker 1: to connect with them, if alive at all, and they'll
- 9:15Speaker 1: never know the truth of what happened. We know Dulos
- 9:19Speaker 1: in the Kobe Medical Center. They worked on him for
- 9:23Speaker 1: thirty straight minutes before he was airlifted. We wait as
- 9:29Speaker 1: justice unfolds. Nancy Grace crime story, signing off Goodbye friend,