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- 0:28Speaker 1: an amazing time Simon at our live event at The
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- 0:51Speaker 1: seven and a half, Foxhol Houston plus two and a half.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Simon says Rams plus three and a half an exec
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- 3:46Speaker 1: All right, let's get to it. First came up Houston Baltimore.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Baltimore is a nine point favorite at bet three sixty five.
- 3:54Speaker 1: This line has steamed down a little bit, open to ten.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Now it's at nine. CJ. Shroud continues to defy all
- 4:04Speaker 1: of the expectations, the things you don't want to do
- 4:07Speaker 1: bet on a first year quarterback. I think we can
- 4:09Speaker 1: agree with this guy stapping a first year quarterback about
- 4:12Speaker 1: midway through the season. He is just that special first take,
- 4:19Speaker 1: first instinct on this game.
- 4:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:22Speaker 3: I think I talked about it with the crowd at
- 4:23Speaker 3: the show. It's like, if this is above seven, we
- 4:26Speaker 3: kind of are tied. Our hands are tied. We have
- 4:28Speaker 3: to take Houston. It's just too big of a number.
- 4:30Speaker 3: And you know, we know Lamar struggled as a big
- 4:33Speaker 3: favorite chat, so you know the fact that we already
- 4:36Speaker 3: liked it, and then we have the trends to back
- 4:37Speaker 3: it up. Lamar since the last three years, he's one
- 4:40Speaker 3: and eight as a favorite seven or more. That's a
- 4:43Speaker 3: big deal, right, We have all all the time, like
- 4:44Speaker 3: we like to fade him. The lone win was a
- 4:47Speaker 3: bet me and you made. We took Houston week one,
- 4:50Speaker 3: and you look back now it kind of makes sense, right.
- 4:51Speaker 3: It's it's him making this first start, CJ. And it's
- 4:55Speaker 3: also the coach making this first start. It's a big deal.
- 4:58Speaker 3: Now they're like grizzly vets. They're they've been through it.
- 5:00Speaker 3: They've already got their playoff win. So we know the
- 5:03Speaker 3: struggles for Lamar and the playoffs. We know this number
- 5:05Speaker 3: is too big. Let's not overthink it. We got to
- 5:08Speaker 3: just take the Houston plus nine. I mean it was
- 5:10Speaker 3: ten and now it's down to nine and a half,
- 5:12Speaker 3: down to nine. A couple books and now some books
- 5:14Speaker 3: are shown eight and a half. So if you're one
- 5:16Speaker 3: with the pros are betting, the pros are taking this,
- 5:18Speaker 3: and the public will be all over the Ravens like
- 5:20Speaker 3: they're gonna parlay this. They'll tease it, we're gonna talk
- 5:23Speaker 3: another game like it's just a week where the favorites
- 5:26Speaker 3: do usually win, they usually do cover. So met Chat
- 5:29Speaker 3: aren't gonna go to blindly bet all these dogs. But instantly,
- 5:32Speaker 3: this is probably our favorite dog of the week.
- 5:33Speaker 1: Yeah, the number is too big. Some more stats. Lamar
- 5:38Speaker 1: is a favorite of three and a half or more
- 5:42Speaker 1: in his career forty two percent against the spread. That's
- 5:46Speaker 1: a sample size of north of fifty games, so it's
- 5:48Speaker 1: not insignificant. One hundred and seventy fourth out of one
- 5:52Speaker 1: hundred and eighty one quarterbacks the past twenty years. In
- 5:56Speaker 1: terms of against the spread record, as a favorite of
- 5:59Speaker 1: three and a half or more, it gets worse seven
- 6:02Speaker 1: and a half or more. Forty two percent gets a
- 6:05Speaker 1: spread one in eight over the past three seasons. That
- 6:09Speaker 1: is the worst mark of thirty two qbs that we
- 6:14Speaker 1: have in our database. His only cover, like you said,
- 6:18Speaker 1: was Week one. Here's my one concern. So CJ was
- 6:24Speaker 1: amazing at home, right, twenty five hundred passing years at home,
- 6:28Speaker 1: seventeen touchdowns at home, sixty five percent completion rate at home,
- 6:33Speaker 1: I think nine yards per attempt at home. On the road,
- 6:38Speaker 1: sixty two percent of his passes completed, sixteen of his
- 6:43Speaker 1: sixteen hundred of his four thousand yards, six touchdowns. So
- 6:49Speaker 1: he is not the same quarterback on the road. It
- 6:52Speaker 1: could be a combination of a couple different things, one
- 6:55Speaker 1: different surfaces. Bobby Slovac is playing a different game. We
- 7:01Speaker 1: see j Shroud on the road, then he is at home.
- 7:05Speaker 1: So I do think there is something that makes me
- 7:08Speaker 1: a little bit more nervous about betting him on the
- 7:10Speaker 1: road as a big dog than when we were so
- 7:13Speaker 1: confident betting him at home as a dog.
- 7:16Speaker 3: Yeah, and just going through his schedule while you're talking
- 7:18Speaker 3: about this and looking at his road record.
- 7:20Speaker 2: So you already talked about their Week one.
- 7:22Speaker 3: Loss to the Ravens, right, You only put up nine points,
- 7:25Speaker 3: the Ravens score twenty five. That's a bad loss if
- 7:28Speaker 3: you scroll through all the other games, though, every other
- 7:30Speaker 3: loss in the road is really close until you get
- 7:32Speaker 3: to the Jets game where they lost six six to thirty,
- 7:34Speaker 3: which I don't even know if you even played in
- 7:35Speaker 3: that one. I think he was banged up. But it's
- 7:38Speaker 3: just I get where you're coming from there. The splits
- 7:41Speaker 3: are different with him on the road. I just have
- 7:43Speaker 3: so much in faith in c J Y now, which
- 7:45Speaker 3: is probably might be getting me in trouble, yeah, but
- 7:48Speaker 3: it's honestly the Lamar factor as well.
- 7:50Speaker 2: Though. Lamar in these big moments, he gets tight.
- 7:53Speaker 3: And we just saw a guy Dak which me and
- 7:55Speaker 3: you didn't want to back him because we kept talking
- 7:57Speaker 3: about his even though it was a small sample. We've
- 7:59Speaker 3: seen time again how mental football is and some guys
- 8:03Speaker 3: got it. Which I mean, say what you want about
- 8:05Speaker 3: how Houston won that game against the Browns. CJ missed
- 8:10Speaker 3: a couple of deep balls. Nothing changed right in that
- 8:12Speaker 3: first quarter. You missed one deep throw, right, I think
- 8:14Speaker 3: it might be Nico Conns. It was gonna be like
- 8:15Speaker 3: a walk in touchdown. Next play they went right back downfield.
- 8:19Speaker 3: It's like it's there's just so much veteran and just
- 8:23Speaker 3: savviness to CJ right now, where it's like I'm trying
- 8:25Speaker 3: not to treat him as a rookie, like going on
- 8:28Speaker 3: the road to Baltimore, anyone else, I'm right there with
- 8:30Speaker 3: you under ten anyone else. I would honestly take the
- 8:32Speaker 3: Ravens here. But the fact that Lamar struggled is a
- 8:35Speaker 3: big favorite. They're coming off rest against just a team
- 8:38Speaker 3: that keeps games close. Like again, going through this, he's
- 8:41Speaker 3: never really been blown out like he just he keeps
- 8:43Speaker 3: games close. He's just that competitive. So I just I
- 8:46Speaker 3: don't see how we don't take them and the money
- 8:49Speaker 3: line here, Like it's just the value is going to
- 8:50Speaker 3: be there. So like for my favorite dog of the week,
- 8:53Speaker 3: it's just it's just Houston. I knew this number was
- 8:54Speaker 3: going to be seven or above. I did not think
- 8:57Speaker 3: it was gonna be nine and a half ten, which
- 8:58Speaker 3: it was the pros of hit that chat.
- 9:00Speaker 2: Now it keeps dropping.
- 9:01Speaker 3: So I'm not making this, Simon says, because we've already
- 9:04Speaker 3: missed the ten. Yeah, but I do think this is
- 9:06Speaker 3: gonna end up being you know, either our big ball
- 9:09Speaker 3: is better whatever. Just once it dost settles, I do
- 9:11Speaker 3: think money will start coming on the Ravens. But right now,
- 9:13Speaker 3: looking at our app, it's it's all Houston money right now.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Isn't it interesting how you mentioned the mental components of it. Look,
- 9:23Speaker 1: the stats bear this out. Lamar is not a guy
- 9:27Speaker 1: who when he has a chance to dominate against the
- 9:30Speaker 1: team where he's a huge favorite, where he is doing that.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Yet I don't think of Lamar and John Harbaugh as
- 9:38Speaker 1: two guys who get tight or make bad mental decisions
- 9:41Speaker 1: or can't handle the challenges of a big time game
- 9:45Speaker 1: or playing way above an inferior opponent. That's all I
- 9:51Speaker 1: think about. For Dak and Mike McCarthy. You know, like
- 9:54Speaker 1: I just don't see it, Like that's what I mean, Like.
- 9:58Speaker 3: We talked before he came on, like went to at
- 10:00Speaker 3: home in the playoffs. He's never won a game at
- 10:02Speaker 3: home in the playoffs. And yes, this is lined up
- 10:05Speaker 3: and get a first win. They should win this game.
- 10:07Speaker 3: But there's a lot to that, right, Like that's gonna
- 10:09Speaker 3: be in the back of his head. That's a real
- 10:11Speaker 3: pressure he's gonna feel. So this is obviously such a
- 10:13Speaker 3: huge game full of mare in his career. It's it's
- 10:15Speaker 3: set up right, Like their path is so set up
- 10:17Speaker 3: in that they have the one seed, they have all
- 10:19Speaker 3: the home advantage, like they're at home throughout the playoffs.
- 10:22Speaker 3: But we've seen I mean this even this season, remember
- 10:24Speaker 3: that Colts game, Yeah at home where it's like there're
- 10:27Speaker 3: just little things they struggle with, even that game against
- 10:29Speaker 3: Pittlera against the Rams, Right, so there's just times where
- 10:32Speaker 3: they're not as untouchable as people perceive as usually one
- 10:35Speaker 3: seeds are very untouchable. Right last year we had the
- 10:37Speaker 3: Chiefs and the Eagles, both one seeds made a run.
- 10:40Speaker 3: I feel confident about the forty and iris will get
- 10:42Speaker 3: to later. I do not feel that same confidence in
- 10:44Speaker 3: this Ravens team, and I was hoping for a big
- 10:46Speaker 3: number to feed them on. I got my wish, like
- 10:48Speaker 3: if you were able to grab the ten, you're way
- 10:50Speaker 3: ahead of it. I still think nine and a half
- 10:52Speaker 3: great value. Even down to eight and a half, there's
- 10:54Speaker 3: obviously still amazing value there. I just don't see it
- 10:57Speaker 3: getting down below seven to you. So it's like, obviously
- 11:00Speaker 3: you guys are grabby in the half. But yeah, this
- 11:02Speaker 3: is hard for me.
- 11:02Speaker 2: To have to make. Siven says.
- 11:04Speaker 3: I'm trying to make just wait until Thursday, make our
- 11:05Speaker 3: big balls. But I do love this spot so much
- 11:08Speaker 3: for Houston.
- 11:09Speaker 1: All right, next game on the board, Green Bay at
- 11:13Speaker 1: San Francisco, And this is the only game we could
- 11:17Speaker 1: discuss on Sunday night. It opened Green Bay as a
- 11:23Speaker 1: ten point underdog coming off of that demolishing of the Cowboys,
- 11:31Speaker 1: and the line moved to nine and a half. I'll
- 11:36Speaker 1: say this right now, San Francisco executive decision, the choice
- 11:43Speaker 1: between the unthinkable and the impossible?
- 11:45Speaker 2: Are you av your honor? STU executive decision.
- 11:50Speaker 1: I had the bills last week in minus ten, never
- 11:53Speaker 1: worried about it. I have so many thoughts and why
- 11:55Speaker 1: San Francisco is the right side here, but I'm not
- 11:58Speaker 1: sure you agree with me. No.
- 12:00Speaker 3: What's funny though, if this was Aaron Rodgers, I would
- 12:03Speaker 3: be which sounds stupid, but if you go through our history,
- 12:06Speaker 3: me and Chad always faded Aaron Rodgers in this spot,
- 12:08Speaker 3: even if they're at home against the forty nine ers team,
- 12:10Speaker 3: we would always just take the forty nine Ers against Rogers.
- 12:13Speaker 3: So yeah, looking at this, Chad, I get where're coming from.
- 12:17Speaker 3: This's is hard for me, Like I WOA say all
- 12:19Speaker 3: the time, it's just hard for me to back favorites,
- 12:20Speaker 3: But you're probably right this, Probably there is the right
- 12:22Speaker 3: spot to back is forty nine Ers team. Not only
- 12:24Speaker 3: do you have the experience, it felt like the green
- 12:27Speaker 3: Bay win last week was more about Dallas than it
- 12:29Speaker 3: was about green Bay. Even though Jordan Love did make
- 12:31Speaker 3: the throws and LaForce schemed it up incredibly and their
- 12:33Speaker 3: defense did play so well, It's like, man, that was
- 12:36Speaker 3: a complete total meltdown from the whole Dallas team, Like
- 12:39Speaker 3: even their defense looked like they never played before. So
- 12:42Speaker 3: you're exactly right, Like if you're trying to like I
- 12:45Speaker 3: wanted to be on green Bay. Chad's right, though, if
- 12:48Speaker 3: you're looking at what this number should be and where
- 12:50Speaker 3: the value is, it is too low.
- 12:52Speaker 2: This probably should be closer to twelve twelve and a half.
- 12:55Speaker 3: You're getting two free points here just because they beat
- 12:57Speaker 3: quote unquote America's team in Dallas last week. So it's pain.
- 13:01Speaker 3: It's paining me to do. But with me, I do
- 13:05Speaker 3: agree with you. I just think the number is too low.
- 13:07Speaker 3: Where I really wish this was what it should be,
- 13:10Speaker 3: which is closer at twelve and a half.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Thirteen. Would have loved to take Green Bay at that number.
- 13:14Speaker 3: But the fact that you can still get it a
- 13:16Speaker 3: couple of books that I'm looking, you can still get
- 13:17Speaker 3: the nine and a half. I don't hate it. And
- 13:21Speaker 3: we talk all the time. This is this is gonna
- 13:24Speaker 3: be the game that people are gonna tease together, like
- 13:26Speaker 3: this is the move. People are gonna take the one seeds,
- 13:28Speaker 3: They're gonna throw them together. And I just I mean,
- 13:31Speaker 3: the forty nine ers are what down a plus one
- 13:33Speaker 3: seventy five to win.
- 13:34Speaker 2: The Super Bowl. They're the best team in football.
- 13:36Speaker 3: Like the fans, I mean, we met a couple of
- 13:38Speaker 3: our show on Sunday, Like I said, you guys should
- 13:41Speaker 3: have your chest puffed out, like you're by far the best.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Team, you have the best path.
- 13:45Speaker 3: Now you're getting to play the seventh seed at home again,
- 13:49Speaker 3: Dallas made history. We never saw a seventh seed beat
- 13:51Speaker 3: a two seed before green Bay. They clearly should not
- 13:55Speaker 3: be a seventh seed. Right, they're better, Like they're better
- 13:57Speaker 3: than Eagles, like, no doubt if they would have played
- 13:59Speaker 3: the Eagles, I would take green Bay.
- 14:02Speaker 1: If the seasons started in November instead of September and
- 14:05Speaker 1: went to February, the Eagles might not have made the
- 14:08Speaker 1: playoffs and the Packers might have been a two seed.
- 14:11Speaker 1: Like that's how well they've been playing. So you think so,
- 14:16Speaker 1: you think so. Look, we loved the Packers on Sunday night, right,
- 14:23Speaker 1: we immediately were smashing the Packers at plus seven and
- 14:26Speaker 1: a half two Sundays ago, where like, this number doesn't
- 14:29Speaker 1: make any sense. How is this number at seven and
- 14:32Speaker 1: a half. So we played it, and it played out
- 14:35Speaker 1: exactly as we thought it would be. McCarthy, terrible coach
- 14:39Speaker 1: and terrible play caller who we knew talk about getting tight.
- 14:43Speaker 1: We knew he would get tight in that game. The
- 14:46Speaker 1: defense plays too much man and it was overrated as
- 14:49Speaker 1: a pass rush. So you had the polar ends where
- 14:52Speaker 1: in the high profile spots everyone thinks they're amazing, but
- 14:56Speaker 1: they're kind of not that amazing, and their numbers were middling.
- 14:59Speaker 1: They just made really high profile plays that looked fancy.
- 15:02Speaker 2: Right.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the Niners have a better overall offense against a
- 15:09Speaker 1: still suspect defense. Let me give you some games that
- 15:14Speaker 1: during this streak since November, when Green Bay started to
- 15:18Speaker 1: get hot, Jordan Love all of a sudden found his groove. Right,
- 15:22Speaker 1: that's what everyone's talking about, thinking they're so good. They
- 15:25Speaker 1: lost to the Steelers, they lost to the Giants. They
- 15:30Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs, but don't forget they beat the Chiefs
- 15:33Speaker 1: on a no call pass interference that could have forced
- 15:36Speaker 1: them to lose the game. They barely beat the Chargers.
- 15:39Speaker 1: They gave up thirty three points to the Panthers. The
- 15:41Speaker 1: Panthers didn't score thirty three points in the second half
- 15:43Speaker 1: of the year combined, but they gave up thirty three
- 15:46Speaker 1: thirty points to the Panthers. So if this were a
- 15:50Speaker 1: regular season game, we would be fading this Packers team.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Because even Sean Kerner, he did projections for every team
- 15:59Speaker 1: had into the playoffs and every game, every matchup heading
- 16:04Speaker 1: into the playoffs, the projection for this game was green
- 16:07Speaker 1: Bay plus eleven and a half. And I was talking
- 16:11Speaker 1: to Stucky yesterday. We were in the office and we're
- 16:13Speaker 1: all hanging out this weekend, and we were like, green Bay,
- 16:18Speaker 1: if not for the way they beat up on Dallas,
- 16:20Speaker 1: they'd be a twelve thirteen point underdog in this game.
- 16:24Speaker 1: Let me give you some more stats. Okay, even though
- 16:26Speaker 1: I know, I feel like I finally convinced you to
- 16:30Speaker 1: come to my side and that we're gonna be betting
- 16:32Speaker 1: buddies on this San Francisco was ranked higher than Green
- 16:35Speaker 1: Bay in each of the following categories. Yards per game,
- 16:38Speaker 1: passing yards per game, rushing yards per game, points scored
- 16:43Speaker 1: per game, third down percentage, yards allowed per game, rushing
- 16:48Speaker 1: yards allowed per game, points allowed per game, third down
- 16:51Speaker 1: percentage against. They have been a dominant team all season long.
- 16:56Speaker 1: There's no reason not to be betting the forty nine
- 16:59Speaker 1: ers as a fait it. Don't be fooled.
- 17:02Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just you know, I just say taking big favorites.
- 17:05Speaker 3: But I mean, you nailed all with all the stats
- 17:07Speaker 3: there too. And it's also fort nitars at home. We
- 17:09Speaker 3: talk all the time we like back in Shane and
- 17:11Speaker 3: at Home as a favorite. It's been good to especially
- 17:13Speaker 3: the last couple of years. So yeah, the more we
- 17:15Speaker 3: talk about the more I feel like it is a
- 17:17Speaker 3: good bet. And it also feels like you should go
- 17:19Speaker 3: grab that nine and a half, like it's out there.
- 17:22Speaker 3: Don't be stuckish to one book. People, We tell you
- 17:25Speaker 3: all the time you have to shop around. So I'm
- 17:27Speaker 3: looking at two of the more public books. They're still
- 17:29Speaker 3: hanging it and it's only minus one fifteen and one
- 17:33Speaker 3: book minus one eighteenth. The other book the Juice, So
- 17:35Speaker 3: I would go grab that before it moves to ten.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Evan just put this note into the script. The last
- 17:40Speaker 1: nine quarterbacks against the Panthers sixteen touchdowns for interceptions. Don't
- 17:47Speaker 1: forget Dak lit up that defense. I know they were
- 17:50Speaker 1: passing NonStop at the end of the game, but they
- 17:53Speaker 1: completely lit up that defense.
- 17:55Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're also getting a four Niners defense at
- 17:59Speaker 3: home that you know, I expect them to be able
- 18:01Speaker 3: to scheme up something to stop the Jordan love just
- 18:04Speaker 3: because I talked about it before. Lafleur had struggled against
- 18:06Speaker 3: his forty nunders team in the past. Like you can
- 18:08Speaker 3: go back and look at his days with Aaron Rodgers.
- 18:10Speaker 3: There's a couple of time there too. Rogers got home
- 18:12Speaker 3: at Lambeau favorite against his forty Nineers defense has struggled,
- 18:15Speaker 3: So that's just not a laflort thing, right, I mean,
- 18:17Speaker 3: we saw Jordan Love is kind of like a carbon
- 18:20Speaker 3: copy of Rogers throwing off bounds, throwing the side and passes.
- 18:23Speaker 2: It's kind of the same offense. Nothing's really changed.
- 18:25Speaker 3: So the e fact of that in the past they've struggled.
- 18:28Speaker 3: We'll see if Jordan Love could take that enormous step.
- 18:31Speaker 3: But I feel like he's already done it in his
- 18:33Speaker 3: first season, right, like that game with Dallas, that was it. Right,
- 18:36Speaker 3: They're gonna be feeling so good this week we expect
- 18:38Speaker 3: to let down. I mean, they're a young team, like
- 18:40Speaker 3: Green Bay's a young team, so Chad, right, don't let
- 18:42Speaker 3: the ten scarry off. I would grab it now though,
- 18:44Speaker 3: because there are still nine and a half's out there.
- 18:46Speaker 1: Look, it feels like the Packers can be happy with
- 18:49Speaker 1: making it to the second round of the playoffs, and
- 18:51Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, oh my god, this is so exciting.
- 18:53Speaker 1: We have so much to build in. The Niners are
- 18:56Speaker 1: not happy with anything less than winning the Super Bowl.
- 18:58Speaker 1: So there's just different expectations in this game. In fact,
- 19:02Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I know what the final score is.
- 19:03Speaker 1: Do you want to know what's gonna be?
- 19:04Speaker 2: Oh God, Chad, go ahead, forty.
- 19:06Speaker 1: Two to fourteen. It just this, This has all the
- 19:09Speaker 1: makings telling you right now.
- 19:11Speaker 2: So Chad likes the over. If you're keeping track at home,
- 19:13Speaker 2: Chad likes the over.
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- 20:37Speaker 1: talking about Kansas City APT Buffalo. The line right now
- 20:42Speaker 1: is two and a half. It's been all over the place.
- 20:44Speaker 1: It was at three for about thirty seconds, two and
- 20:47Speaker 1: a half, got down to two. Now it's back up
- 20:50Speaker 1: to two and a half. It's trending back towards three,
- 20:56Speaker 1: which means.
- 21:00Speaker 2: I'm making the bills. My Simon says.
- 21:01Speaker 1: Chad says, when Simon says, do it, we do.
- 21:07Speaker 2: What Simon says as the least confident as I can sound.
- 21:11Speaker 2: But I have to do it.
- 21:13Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm doing it, And like even now,
- 21:15Speaker 3: I just had a buddy text me and he's just
- 21:17Speaker 3: like another pro and he's just like, do not, do
- 21:19Speaker 3: not take the Bills.
- 21:21Speaker 2: I have to do it. He just knew he knew
- 21:23Speaker 2: me too well.
- 21:23Speaker 3: But it's just I just love this Bills team and
- 21:26Speaker 3: I love this spot, and like the fear for me
- 21:28Speaker 3: right now is what injuries happened?
- 21:30Speaker 2: Right because they're playing again. It's a joke the NFL.
- 21:33Speaker 3: They have him outside playing the game on concrete like
- 21:36Speaker 3: that that field was concrete.
- 21:37Speaker 2: Anytimes someone got tackled, they.
- 21:39Speaker 3: Would get up and they look like they're in such
- 21:40Speaker 3: ping and someone's like, why they why did they all
- 21:42Speaker 3: look I have to get tackled.
- 21:43Speaker 2: It's like they're literally being tackled the concrete.
- 21:46Speaker 3: It was crazy. So obviously I get the pushback on
- 21:49Speaker 3: the Bills. But before we went on chat, I told
- 21:51Speaker 3: you my my big thing is I don't I don't
- 21:53Speaker 3: think people are understanding this Chiefs team just isn't right right.
- 21:56Speaker 3: People are getting sucked back in on this Chiefs team
- 21:58Speaker 3: and I'm not like they scored two touchdowns and then
- 22:02Speaker 3: struggled in the red zone against the Miami team Miami
- 22:04Speaker 3: gifted them that whole game, right, Like they could not
- 22:06Speaker 3: do a single thing on offense. They had a ton
- 22:08Speaker 3: of injuries to their defense, so the Chiefs could move
- 22:10Speaker 3: the ball anyway they wanted up and down the field.
- 22:13Speaker 2: And people are back in.
- 22:13Speaker 3: Everyone's like, well, it's the playoffs, right, Mahomes is back,
- 22:16Speaker 3: this is the team, this is them back in the playoffs,
- 22:18Speaker 3: and it's just I can't get there. So I think
- 22:21Speaker 3: the public will be on this side. And I know
- 22:23Speaker 3: a couple of pros are where it's like I can
- 22:25Speaker 3: see it being the same thing with the Rams that
- 22:26Speaker 3: we're gonna look in the app and it's gonna be
- 22:28Speaker 3: a lot of money skewed.
- 22:29Speaker 2: Towards the bills.
- 22:30Speaker 3: If they make this plus three, that will change, like
- 22:33Speaker 3: so much money will come in on the Chiefs team
- 22:34Speaker 3: a plus three because I when we know all the stats,
- 22:36Speaker 3: Mahomes is a dog. I think I haven't talked about it.
- 22:39Speaker 3: He's like eight and one in his last nine as
- 22:40Speaker 3: an underdog. Yeah, it's amazing.
- 22:42Speaker 1: You remember that because I needed all the stats written down.
- 22:45Speaker 3: So now, because that one sticks with me where it's
- 22:48Speaker 3: like me and you love Betty, Mahomes is a dog,
- 22:51Speaker 3: and it paints for it pains me not to do
- 22:53Speaker 3: it here, but it's this number should be three and
- 22:56Speaker 3: a half four Like maybe because of the Bills injuries
- 22:59Speaker 3: to defense, this number would start making more sense to me,
- 23:01Speaker 3: where it's like, okay, this should be under a three
- 23:03Speaker 3: two and a half. But me and you have been
- 23:05Speaker 3: riding this Bills team now for months and we keep
- 23:08Speaker 3: talking about they've been in these playoff games four months.
- 23:11Speaker 3: They've made huge changes to their offense, which obviously benefit them,
- 23:15Speaker 3: and bringing in Rusull Douglass totally changed the identity that
- 23:17Speaker 3: the second half, where like their secondary was easy to
- 23:20Speaker 3: be passed on, he came in there start getting turnovers
- 23:22Speaker 3: just picks. He was able to add to their run
- 23:24Speaker 3: stopping game too, like he is incredible attack. Yes, so
- 23:28Speaker 3: all these little things that Bills did really changed our
- 23:31Speaker 3: perception number. The Chiefs have done.
- 23:33Speaker 2: None of that.
- 23:34Speaker 3: I mean, go through just what they've done, even in December, right,
- 23:37Speaker 3: we always tak you never fade Mahomes in November December.
- 23:40Speaker 3: This year we are fade him all November all December.
- 23:42Speaker 3: And I think people are overacting too much of this
- 23:44Speaker 3: one game. Go watch that tape. People, all those field goals,
- 23:47Speaker 3: like they just they're not the same team in the
- 23:49Speaker 3: red zone. There's no imagination there in the red zone.
- 23:51Speaker 3: Like that first drive was vintage Mahomes and the Chiefs. Right,
- 23:54Speaker 3: they drove right down the field. He was making the
- 23:57Speaker 3: perfect passes. I think Rice was wide open, right. It
- 24:00Speaker 3: was like an underneath play where the linebackers dropped back.
- 24:02Speaker 3: There was no one to the right. He just walked
- 24:04Speaker 3: right in. That was vintage. The rest of the game
- 24:06Speaker 3: it was not like that, like there's just it's just
- 24:08Speaker 3: not there. Even the drops too, kept showing up right,
- 24:10Speaker 3: even Kelsey having multiple drops. It's like, this is just
- 24:13Speaker 3: not the same team. So if if the Bills, if
- 24:18Speaker 3: this game had been closer and they had struggled, and
- 24:21Speaker 3: it was just like, okay, this this Josh Allen can't
- 24:24Speaker 3: stop turning the bull ever, stop can't stop making stupid plays.
- 24:27Speaker 3: I think he played really smart in that Pittsburgh game.
- 24:30Speaker 3: He pulled it down Randy when he need to, he
- 24:32Speaker 3: hand They handed it off. And like the run blocking
- 24:34Speaker 3: scheme as well has looked so much better. It's just
- 24:37Speaker 3: it's just all there. And then new factor as well.
- 24:39Speaker 3: Mahomes has never played a road playoff game. So this
- 24:42Speaker 3: is a big deal, right, He's going to Buffalo where
- 24:45Speaker 3: we you talk all the time. That's a hard place
- 24:47Speaker 3: to play. Like, tell people to be quiet while he
- 24:50Speaker 3: does his snap count. It's gonna be loud and rowdy.
- 24:53Speaker 3: So we're getting under two and a half, Come on,
- 24:55Speaker 3: join me take this number. I know it's scary going
- 24:57Speaker 3: against my homes, but at three and a half, homes
- 25:00Speaker 3: makes sense.
- 25:00Speaker 2: At two and a half, it feels like the Bills
- 25:02Speaker 2: is to play here.
- 25:03Speaker 1: So let me let me throw some water.
- 25:07Speaker 2: Do it.
- 25:07Speaker 1: On your very hot take, you mentioned Patrick Mahomes eight
- 25:12Speaker 1: one and one. Yeah, in those ten career games, including
- 25:16Speaker 1: the postseason in which he has been an underdog eight
- 25:20Speaker 1: one and one, he's six and three straight up, seven
- 25:25Speaker 1: and one, seven to one and one against the spread.
- 25:28Speaker 1: In those nine regular season games one to oh straight
- 25:32Speaker 1: up and against the spread as an underdog in the playoffs.
- 25:36Speaker 1: That was last year's Super Bowl.
- 25:38Speaker 2: Yeah, they used to be a good team, the Chiefs.
- 25:40Speaker 1: I'm not discounting that his record is actually better away
- 25:46Speaker 1: from home thirty nine and eleven straight up on the
- 25:49Speaker 1: road thirty five and eleven at home. He's more profitable
- 25:54Speaker 1: against the spread as the Visitor going twenty eight to
- 25:57Speaker 1: twenty and two on the road in games twenty twenty
- 26:01Speaker 1: five and one at Arrowhead. And that makes sense, right,
- 26:04Speaker 1: Like on the road the numbers are going to be
- 26:07Speaker 1: a little bit less inflated. That are always going to
- 26:10Speaker 1: be super high at Arrowhead. The market has never cut
- 26:12Speaker 1: up to the fact that they play a more conservative
- 26:15Speaker 1: game at Arrowhead. They score fewer points at Arrowhead. They
- 26:17Speaker 1: just assume at home. Patrick Mahomes got to tee off,
- 26:21Speaker 1: so that makes sense. And look, I agree with you.
- 26:26Speaker 1: We have loved the Bills all week. We have loved
- 26:30Speaker 1: the Bills all month. I felt like going to the playoffs,
- 26:36Speaker 1: they might have been the best team in the AFC
- 26:39Speaker 1: for sure, maybe the best team in the NFL with
- 26:42Speaker 1: the way Joe Brady has changed that offense in Josh Allen,
- 26:45Speaker 1: he had a lot of picks, but it's much more
- 26:47Speaker 1: running focus. And we've talked a lot about how teams
- 26:50Speaker 1: and their time of possession against the Bills has decreased.
- 26:54Speaker 1: You mentioned Russell will Douglas didn't play, got to Steelers,
- 26:57Speaker 1: was inactive knee injury. We don't know if he'll play
- 27:00Speaker 1: this weekend. They lost more linebackers and more dbs playing
- 27:06Speaker 1: on that turf last night. No, Stefan Diggs looked like
- 27:09Speaker 1: every time he went to the ground like something was breaking.
- 27:14Speaker 1: When the Steelers on Monday, when they started to make
- 27:17Speaker 1: a game of it was when those players went out
- 27:19Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they had so many more
- 27:21Speaker 1: opportunities in the middle of the field. I know Travis
- 27:24Speaker 1: Kelsey hasn't have a great year, but that is how
- 27:27Speaker 1: they can beat the Bills. That is their strength against
- 27:30Speaker 1: a Bill's weakness.
- 27:32Speaker 3: Yeah, and just throw water on I love you and
- 27:35Speaker 3: I love all the statue gave those are with Tyreek
- 27:38Speaker 3: Hill and the ble on me like the OC that's
- 27:40Speaker 3: no longer there. And we just talked about their struggles
- 27:42Speaker 3: this season. But I mean, anyone can open up the
- 27:45Speaker 3: app and go through their games this year and it's
- 27:47Speaker 3: just the offense just has not been there, even when
- 27:49Speaker 3: you go down the home stretch here. You know, we
- 27:52Speaker 3: bet against them with the Bills. The Bills went to
- 27:55Speaker 3: since the Chiefs and they beat them twenty to seventeen in.
- 27:57Speaker 2: Their regular season.
- 27:58Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know it's just like I can't overreact
- 28:02Speaker 3: to what the Chiefs just did last week, where I
- 28:05Speaker 3: get the pushback, and I get all these stats, and
- 28:08Speaker 3: I really did wanted to be on the Chiefs, but
- 28:10Speaker 3: it's just they're just not the same team. And I
- 28:12Speaker 3: think people still have to come to full terms with that.
- 28:14Speaker 3: Just because they did win their division and they did
- 28:16Speaker 3: just blow out a team in the playoffs, it feels
- 28:18Speaker 3: like it's all the same, but it's not. And that's
- 28:21Speaker 3: like my biggest issue is, so Chad's right about the injuries,
- 28:24Speaker 3: Like it's terrifying the injuries that Bills have had to
- 28:25Speaker 3: their defense. But they're just they're that magical team and
- 28:29Speaker 3: like we keep talking about, like the fact that everyone's
- 28:32Speaker 3: out on them, everyone doubted them, that you could have
- 28:33Speaker 3: got them at fifty to one to win the Super
- 28:35Speaker 3: Bowl in December, that's just like why I love this team.
- 28:39Speaker 3: Like that's the year the teams make runs and win
- 28:41Speaker 3: super Bowls when no one believes them, everyone counts them out,
- 28:43Speaker 3: and they make these crazy runs. And they're just on
- 28:46Speaker 3: a crazy run right now. So every counterpoint you've said
- 28:49Speaker 3: is so fair. I'm just trusting the number, the fact
- 28:52Speaker 3: that the number is under three three, three and a half.
- 28:54Speaker 3: I get the Chiefs love, but a two and a half,
- 28:56Speaker 3: it's just like that's such a big deal that number
- 28:58Speaker 3: is under it, especially when we know, like we're looking
- 29:00Speaker 3: at this guys, the fact that Buffalo went there and
- 29:02Speaker 3: won twenty to seventeen, and I know peoplere gonna push
- 29:04Speaker 3: back and be like, well that was the no call.
- 29:06Speaker 3: I think the guy dropped a touchdown where they could
- 29:07Speaker 3: have beat the Bills. Where it's like you can say
- 29:09Speaker 3: that with any game, like there's always gonna be calls.
- 29:11Speaker 3: I mean, we didn't talk about the Lions game yet,
- 29:13Speaker 3: but like there's always gonna be calls and non.
- 29:15Speaker 2: Calls that it determined a lot of these games.
- 29:17Speaker 3: But just the way the Bills have played the fact
- 29:20Speaker 3: that this is such a revenge spot, right, Like Mahomes
- 29:23Speaker 3: and Josh Allen, you know they play cute and like
- 29:26Speaker 3: they're good friends. Allen has been sitting on that loss.
- 29:30Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah to Mahomes from two three years ago
- 29:34Speaker 3: for this whole time, and like this it's poetic justice,
- 29:37Speaker 3: Like you win this game, you somehow go and beat
- 29:40Speaker 3: the Ravens and that's how you make the Super Bowl run.
- 29:42Speaker 3: Like it just feels like whenever you look at the
- 29:43Speaker 3: NFL history and how it all lines up with these
- 29:46Speaker 3: guys had the cock with these. I mean, Michael Jordan,
- 29:48Speaker 3: your favorite guy. He had to overtake the Drui Piston team.
- 29:52Speaker 3: He had to hit the gym, get jacked for three
- 29:54Speaker 3: years to get big and strong enough to overtake that team.
- 29:57Speaker 3: That's what it feels like here with the Bills, where
- 29:58Speaker 3: it's like the Chiefs had didn't that stop for for them.
- 30:01Speaker 3: It's the reason they never got to the super Bowl.
- 30:03Speaker 3: And this sold Josh Allen there and now it's finally
- 30:05Speaker 3: lined up. They got a bad Chiefs team at home,
- 30:09Speaker 3: first time Mahome has ever been on the road in
- 30:10Speaker 3: this kind of scenario. It just feels really lined up.
- 30:13Speaker 3: So I'm trying hard to convince people on this guy.
- 30:15Speaker 3: No hart is to take them, but so what I'm
- 30:17Speaker 3: telling you take the two and a half, don't be
- 30:19Speaker 3: scared off by this numb or take the Bills here.
- 30:21Speaker 1: Last night, even Josh Allen said he was, and he
- 30:25Speaker 1: said this as a compliment. Aj Klein came off the
- 30:31Speaker 1: street to play great. Ajklin might be starting in the
- 30:37Speaker 1: middle for the Bills in this game, which means it's
- 30:43Speaker 1: going to be aj Klin trying to read Patrick Mahomes
- 30:48Speaker 1: like I want to be on the bill so bad.
- 30:51Speaker 1: In this game, I do think Josh Allen looks amazing,
- 30:53Speaker 1: and I think Patrick Mahomes. You know, you have mentioned
- 30:57Speaker 1: many times on this show this year that mahomes ve game.
- 31:02Speaker 2: Just two weeks ago, three weeks ago.
- 31:03Speaker 1: I do, Yes, I totally do. And you've mentioned many
- 31:05Speaker 1: times this year like they're broken Mahomes, this is not
- 31:09Speaker 1: the right team, and then Mahomes has been really whiny
- 31:11Speaker 1: all season long. You've totally said that. And I think
- 31:15Speaker 1: Josh Allen looked amazing last night, and I thought like
- 31:18Speaker 1: he played within himself, right, you know how when you're
- 31:20Speaker 1: a great athlete and you you sort of think you're
- 31:23Speaker 1: a wild horse, right, you need to be broken a
- 31:25Speaker 1: little bit.
- 31:26Speaker 3: I didn't see that though, because he did struggle against Miami,
- 31:28Speaker 3: Like he did not play great in.
- 31:29Speaker 2: That Miami game. No, but last night, Yeah, that's what
- 31:31Speaker 2: I mean. I need to see him have a great game.
- 31:33Speaker 1: He had a great game, made the right calls. He
- 31:37Speaker 1: felt like an adult, do you know what I mean?
- 31:40Speaker 1: And like you don't always see that you don't like
- 31:41Speaker 1: Josh Allen. You see him making boneheaded plays that it
- 31:44Speaker 1: kind of plays when you think looking like I'm the
- 31:47Speaker 1: best athlete. I can do anything, and like last night,
- 31:50Speaker 1: he didn't try to do that. He tried to play
- 31:52Speaker 1: with control.
- 31:52Speaker 2: He took what the defense gave m.
- 31:53Speaker 1: So I can if if they can play with control,
- 31:57Speaker 1: I can see it. I feel a little guilty cause
- 32:03Speaker 1: you decided to be my betting buddy on Green Bay
- 32:05Speaker 1: and I'm on the Niners, and I'm having a harder
- 32:07Speaker 1: time being your betting buddy.
- 32:09Speaker 3: I totally get it, Dudie. I want to bet my
- 32:10Speaker 3: homes as a dog too. I like betting dogs.
- 32:12Speaker 1: Great note from owning here are Chiefs from Evan. Chiefs
- 32:17Speaker 1: has scored ten total points in the first queter in
- 32:19Speaker 1: the first quarter of the last five games versus the Bills,
- 32:23Speaker 1: meaning if we like the Chiefs, we're gonna get a
- 32:25Speaker 1: better number live. Okay, So there you go, all right, Sam,
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- 33:43Speaker 1: By the way, I should say, and you didn't give
- 33:45Speaker 1: me your projections. How you have these games power rated
- 33:51Speaker 1: for these games? But Kerner had the Bills Chiefs game
- 33:58Speaker 1: power Raider two. He had the Texans Ravens game power
- 34:04Speaker 1: rated at ten. So we're taking the Texans in there,
- 34:07Speaker 1: which I agree with. But there's about a point of value.
- 34:10Speaker 1: According to Kerner on the Ravens, I said that he
- 34:14Speaker 1: loved the Niners. In this spot, he has the Tampa
- 34:18Speaker 1: Bay visiting Detroit Lions. That game is currently at six.
- 34:21Speaker 1: Kerner had projected at seven and a half. The line
- 34:24Speaker 1: opened at seven, got bet down to six and a half,
- 34:27Speaker 1: got bit down to six. My instinct here is Lions.
- 34:33Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually honestly have this at five. So it's
- 34:36Speaker 3: technically for me the value is on Tampa. But I
- 34:39Speaker 3: justtally don't really like Tampa on the spot. No, no,
- 34:42Speaker 3: And I think it's more honestly about golf. It just
- 34:45Speaker 3: played so bad last week. I know, people like again
- 34:48Speaker 3: media is the dumbest thing ever. But because they won
- 34:51Speaker 3: by one point, people were just blowing smoke up Golf's
- 34:53Speaker 3: ass and Detroit's ass and be like, look how well
- 34:56Speaker 3: they played against Stafford and holding them to all those
- 34:58Speaker 3: field goals.
- 34:59Speaker 2: They scored three points to.
- 35:00Speaker 3: The second half like against a Rams defense that the
- 35:03Speaker 3: guy had just torched the half before. So the fact
- 35:06Speaker 3: that he struggled with the adjustments made by the Rams
- 35:10Speaker 3: a little scary, like a little scary because now we
- 35:12Speaker 3: have Todd Boles coming in, which you know, I don't
- 35:17Speaker 3: like him, and it's just because he's a dinosaur, like
- 35:19Speaker 3: he runs a very dinosaur defense where it said more
- 35:22Speaker 3: about the Eagles and it did about Todd Bowles last
- 35:24Speaker 3: night where he didn't disguise anything. He literally would have
- 35:27Speaker 3: nine guys walk up to the line and either all
- 35:30Speaker 3: eight were blitzing or all nine were blitzing, or he
- 35:32Speaker 3: might drop two back into coverage. It was just very like,
- 35:35Speaker 3: we're not gonna change what we're doing here, and we're
- 35:37Speaker 3: gonna show you exactly what we're doing. Just because they're
- 35:39Speaker 3: kind of making fun of Hurts in that offense, they
- 35:41Speaker 3: were just like you guys that don't have a hot route,
- 35:43Speaker 3: you don't have the offense to combat us just blitzing it.
- 35:45Speaker 1: And they didn't have the receivers.
- 35:47Speaker 3: Yes, and the flip side Detroit, I mean again, God,
- 35:52Speaker 3: I mean they're not mobile, but they do have We
- 35:56Speaker 3: talked about Laporte at one of the best tight ends ever.
- 35:58Speaker 3: He'll be able to get him the ball. I'm not
- 35:59Speaker 3: saying Brown can always get open anytime he needs. Like
- 36:03Speaker 3: the Bucks are not as good as well perceiving. But
- 36:06Speaker 3: the fear is this Detroit team is not that good either,
- 36:09Speaker 3: Like they're also a team that can be passed on.
- 36:12Speaker 3: And we just seen Bakers looked so well, like even
- 36:15Speaker 3: against Eagles, like he was throwing to the exact spots
- 36:18Speaker 3: he should be throwing to, like guys were wide open,
- 36:20Speaker 3: and it's like, Okay, not only has he seen the
- 36:22Speaker 3: feed field, well, he's really trusting the offense, like he
- 36:25Speaker 3: was just in such a rhythm last night that that's
- 36:27Speaker 3: the hardest part for me. So I really, I really
- 36:32Speaker 3: do want to take Tampa, but I just can't get
- 36:36Speaker 3: there right now.
- 36:36Speaker 2: So maybe I'll change by Thursday.
- 36:38Speaker 3: But yeah, golf to me is just he's bad, Like
- 36:41Speaker 3: he's just he's inconsistent where it's like he looked incredible
- 36:44Speaker 3: in that first half. In the second half, it looked
- 36:46Speaker 3: like a got to him, like he just could not
- 36:47Speaker 3: play well. So it's it's scaring me a little bit.
- 36:49Speaker 1: Well, look, we didn't love the can't the Eagles and
- 36:56Speaker 1: Bucks game a week we kind of waffled on that
- 37:01Speaker 1: game ended up being a game we didn't want to play.
- 37:05Speaker 1: I didn't bet anything in the game other than Kadatt
- 37:08Speaker 1: and over because Stuckey, you know, called it in the
- 37:11Speaker 1: Sunday six pack his over twenty one, and he got
- 37:14Speaker 1: that in two catches. But Baker, I think for us
- 37:21Speaker 1: is a conundrum because he's been he's been great this year,
- 37:27Speaker 1: and so are we betting on Baker to continue to
- 37:34Speaker 1: be accurate, to continue to be careful with the ball.
- 37:39Speaker 1: If so, this Lion secondary can be passed.
- 37:43Speaker 2: On, Right's back door is always gonna be open.
- 37:45Speaker 1: Here's some stats from Evan and uh the last four games.
- 37:50Speaker 1: Stafford and the Rams twenty five of thirty six, three
- 37:55Speaker 1: and sixty seven yards to touchdowns and no picks. Nick
- 38:00Speaker 1: Mullins nearly four hundred yards, Justin Jefferson had nearly two
- 38:06Speaker 1: hundred yards receiving. By the way, Puka had one hundred
- 38:08Speaker 1: and eighty yards receiving. Dak twenty six of thirty eight
- 38:13Speaker 1: three hundred and forty five yards, Ceedee Lamb two hundred
- 38:17Speaker 1: and twenty seven yards receiving, and then Minnesota the week
- 38:21Speaker 1: before Mullens four hundred and eleven yards, Justin Jefferson one
- 38:26Speaker 1: hundred and forty one yards. Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Trey Palmer,
- 38:31Speaker 1: one of those guys might have two hundred yards receiving
- 38:33Speaker 1: against this Lion's secondary.
- 38:36Speaker 3: But you saw what they did a combat that is
- 38:39Speaker 3: again it's football. I know Lions fans are very sensitive,
- 38:42Speaker 3: but your guys team did play dirty, Like your defense
- 38:44Speaker 3: were taking an incredible amount of cheap shots hitting guys
- 38:47Speaker 3: low where it's like where also, are they supposed to
- 38:49Speaker 3: hit him? You're not supposed to take a guy's kneecap
- 38:51Speaker 3: out when he's going over the middle, Okay, like you
- 38:53Speaker 3: can hit him in the thigh or in the mid section.
- 38:55Speaker 3: But it's just like they took on Campbell's identity, like
- 38:59Speaker 3: they know they they know their defense is terrible. So
- 39:02Speaker 3: what they did to the Rams, anytimes Puke caught it,
- 39:05Speaker 3: even if the first guy hit him and he's going down,
- 39:07Speaker 3: the second guy would come in and clean him up, right,
- 39:09Speaker 3: because in football you can get away. That's a physical sport.
- 39:11Speaker 3: And that's what they did against the Rams. Why would
- 39:13Speaker 3: they not do the same against Tampa Here It's like
- 39:15Speaker 3: they're just gonna be hitting the hell out of them
- 39:17Speaker 3: so they know that they know they stink.
- 39:19Speaker 2: And I'm in total greense.
- 39:20Speaker 3: That's why I don't want to take the six where
- 39:21Speaker 3: it's like I can't believe, Like Chad was talking bet
- 39:24Speaker 3: before it came on this had gone up to seven
- 39:25Speaker 3: at one point, so open to five and a half.
- 39:28Speaker 3: All the money came and all the teasers, all the
- 39:30Speaker 3: bets came in on Detroit. This guy driven up to seven,
- 39:33Speaker 3: the pros have coming back. Now it's down to six
- 39:35Speaker 3: at most books. It's just like, yeah, seven's too big
- 39:38Speaker 3: because they're always being able to get back door like
- 39:40Speaker 3: that numbers too big.
- 39:41Speaker 2: Six feels right.
- 39:42Speaker 3: Like I said, I do have value slanted towards this
- 39:46Speaker 3: Tampa team, but it's just hard for me to get
- 39:48Speaker 3: there where it's like, you know, I look at what
- 39:52Speaker 3: Chad just talk about this Lion's team, and it's just
- 39:54Speaker 3: like they can't protect leads.
- 39:56Speaker 2: And even then it's like we just.
- 39:58Speaker 3: Saw last week that offense got so tight in the
- 40:00Speaker 3: second half, Like I can't get over the effectively put
- 40:02Speaker 3: three points up at home. It's pretty insane. So yeah,
- 40:05Speaker 3: I just like, again, me and Chad, we don't need
- 40:08Speaker 3: a force bets who really have four games up. But
- 40:10Speaker 3: it's like, you know, we're probably gonna have to make
- 40:12Speaker 3: a pick on us, either a side or a total
- 40:13Speaker 3: in this game as we're city right now. It's like
- 40:15Speaker 3: I want to take Tampa, but I'm not gonna rush you.
- 40:17Speaker 3: The seven is already gone. If you can get the seven, great.
- 40:19Speaker 3: The book that sponsors our show doesn't have a seven,
- 40:21Speaker 3: it's a six. There's no point in giving it out
- 40:23Speaker 3: right now.
- 40:23Speaker 1: I feel like as we're talking, we're going to convince
- 40:27Speaker 1: ourselves to be on the box. I said, Lions instinctive.
- 40:31Speaker 2: Now it's up to six and a half.
- 40:32Speaker 1: And now that I'm watching, I'm reading all this, by
- 40:34Speaker 1: the way, the most Baker stat ever. We love Baker.
- 40:38Speaker 1: We've talked about Baker Moxie all season long. Yeah, twenty
- 40:41Speaker 1: seven to twenty one against the spread as a dog
- 40:44Speaker 1: in his career, four in a row as a dog,
- 40:47Speaker 1: including seven and one against spread the last eight.
- 40:49Speaker 2: So he's been good to us.
- 40:50Speaker 1: He's been great.
- 40:51Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 40:51Speaker 1: And like, the more you think about this matchup, the
- 40:55Speaker 1: Lions are gonna win, but Baker could keep this in
- 41:01Speaker 1: the game. So it's very possible, I hate to say it,
- 41:04Speaker 1: like this is gonna be Foxhole or big Balls. Like
- 41:07Speaker 1: we know at this point, we know that the Niners
- 41:10Speaker 1: are exec decision, we know that the Bills are, Simon says,
- 41:12Speaker 1: so it could be Texans are big Balls and Bucks
- 41:16Speaker 1: or Foxhole or vice versa. I do think we need
- 41:19Speaker 1: a little bit of some sharp calls to help us
- 41:22Speaker 1: out as we get to Thursday show. Before we can
- 41:26Speaker 1: make that call, here's a question from the chat. As
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- 41:40Speaker 1: here's from the chat. If you have a long shot
- 41:42Speaker 1: future on Houston Super Bowl, what's a good way to
- 41:44Speaker 1: head it right now?
- 41:46Speaker 3: Yeah, it all depends for someone like me that bet
- 41:49Speaker 3: that Houston one that I really thought was a joke,
- 41:52Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna let her ride, just because I didn't
- 41:54Speaker 3: put that much into it, Like I only have a
- 41:55Speaker 3: couple of thousand where that Rams wonder was a killer,
- 41:58Speaker 3: Like I had a lot invested into it to win
- 42:01Speaker 3: a lot, and like that would have been great to
- 42:02Speaker 3: take a position on it.
- 42:03Speaker 2: But you can't where this Houston one.
- 42:05Speaker 3: You know, if you listen to us, you either got
- 42:07Speaker 3: one hundred to one or a hundred and fifty to
- 42:09Speaker 3: one their Super Bowl odds. For me personally, like I'm
- 42:13Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna let it ride, just because I already
- 42:15Speaker 3: talked about like I'm gonna take Houston's money line. Now
- 42:17Speaker 3: I don't need to. I can just let that bet ride.
- 42:19Speaker 3: If I think Houston's actually gonna win, I'll let it ride.
- 42:22Speaker 2: Now.
- 42:22Speaker 3: If you want to do play it smart and you
- 42:24Speaker 3: want to hedge, just bet. Yeah, there's a bunch of
- 42:28Speaker 3: different things you can do. Like you can play the
- 42:31Speaker 3: Ravens money line right and get a nice chunk out
- 42:34Speaker 3: of that, cause again you have if you bet one unit,
- 42:38Speaker 3: you have one hundred units to play with here, So
- 42:40Speaker 3: you can't take a position on their money line and
- 42:42Speaker 3: really keep it simple. Or you can do what I did
- 42:44Speaker 3: last week, where like I had Pittsburgh's future, I just
- 42:47Speaker 3: took the Bills money line. I payed it with a
- 42:48Speaker 3: team I felt for sure was gonna win, which was
- 42:50Speaker 3: the Chiefs. That was a no sweat and that was
- 42:52Speaker 3: a big winner. So that's what you can do. If
- 42:54Speaker 3: you're trying to eat away at the juice and take
- 42:56Speaker 3: a little risk your opponents, you can put these these
- 42:58Speaker 3: ones together. I mean I already talked about it like
- 43:00Speaker 3: I can't see a word while the forty nine ers lose.
- 43:03Speaker 3: So if you do want to hedge it. Why not
- 43:05Speaker 3: do the chalkiest thing ever and just put the forty
- 43:07Speaker 3: nine ers with the Ravens money line. But I just
- 43:11Speaker 3: I'm scared to tell you people to do it because
- 43:13Speaker 3: I just I like Houston in the spot. I know
- 43:15Speaker 3: I might look like an idiot come Sunday, but it's
- 43:17Speaker 3: like we talked about, they're a live dog. Lamar's never
- 43:20Speaker 3: won a home playoff game. That's a real pressure. These
- 43:23Speaker 3: guys feel with that real pressure. So yeah, it would
- 43:26Speaker 3: be shocking. But me personally, because I mean him taking
- 43:30Speaker 3: Houston's money on, I'm just gonna let it ride. Like
- 43:32Speaker 3: if you if you're trying to hedge out, I just
- 43:35Speaker 3: gave you a couple of different things you can do
- 43:37Speaker 3: with it. But me personally, it was such a great bet.
- 43:40Speaker 3: It's such a lucky bet. Just let it ride. Like
- 43:42Speaker 3: Evan already talked about teams that have those kind of odds,
- 43:45Speaker 3: they usually don't make it this far.
- 43:46Speaker 2: Right.
- 43:47Speaker 3: The craziest run we've had was the Bengals at one
- 43:49Speaker 3: hundred and fifty to one. The year after Joe Burrow
- 43:52Speaker 3: had a surgery on his knee at the acl fixed
- 43:54Speaker 3: made a run to the Super Bowl. You just don't
- 43:56Speaker 3: see these gooes kind of runs. So the fact that
- 43:58Speaker 3: we've had two of them now last you know, three seasons,
- 44:02Speaker 3: it's like definitely something to keep betting. Like you just
- 44:05Speaker 3: clearly these things keep happening. The books are ketchup these
- 44:07Speaker 3: ne qbs coming into the league. CJ's one of them. So, yeah,
- 44:11Speaker 3: great question. You can do the Chalky money line thing.
- 44:14Speaker 3: But if you want, you're gonna come sweat it out
- 44:16Speaker 3: and ride it with me. I'm gonna ride out of
- 44:17Speaker 3: Houston one hundred and to one.
- 44:18Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, for what it's worth, Evan, who
- 44:21Speaker 1: was brilliant at hedging math, basically said the same thing.
- 44:28Speaker 1: Simon just said, this isn't the week to hedge, it's
- 44:31Speaker 1: next week. At this point, the bet is the bet
- 44:33Speaker 1: and you're riding with it.
- 44:35Speaker 2: And it's a great bet.
- 44:36Speaker 1: If Houston goes next week, then you got a shot
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