Latest / Replay Reviews / Outlast - Part 3
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- 0:00We don't have much of an intro, a formal one, but we do have a special guest appearance, which is Jake!
- 0:08The emotional support fake alpaca made with real alpaca fur.
- 0:14You won't find it anywhere else.
- 0:16Nope.
- 0:17And he helped me get through this.
- 0:19Yeah, partway through this, through watching this with you, I looked down at your little screen and there was an alpaca covering your face.
- 0:31He's my support animal.
- 0:33I need him to cover my face and to really take charge for me and watch it for me because I can handle it.
- 0:39Can you please move him a little bit?
- 0:40I can see a little bit of him.
- 0:42I want to see his face.
- 0:44There he is.
- 0:45Oh, no.
- 0:48Oh, front and center.
- 0:51Front and center.
- 0:52He's the star of the show today.
- 0:54We need to get a screenshot of him in your chair by the mic.
- 0:58Yes.
- 0:59Yes.
- 1:00Maybe they'll be on our Instagram, which we now have up and running.
- 1:04We do.
- 1:05I think it's replay reviews pod.
- 1:07I guess we should verify.
- 1:08You should know, right?
- 1:09You're in charge.
- 1:11Yes.
- 1:12It is replay reviews pod.
- 1:14And then we also have an email, which is replayreviewspod at gmail.com.
- 1:20Contact us, game suggestions, general suggestions, complaints.
- 1:25We'll take those too.
- 1:27It's all open.
- 1:29We are also changing up formats again, just a little bit.
- 1:33We are recording directly after watching the gameplay to have more raw reactions, more raw
- 1:40conversation, and so we don't forget so much.
- 1:45And honestly, I think, okay, you hated this game when we started because it's gory.
- 1:50It was difficult.
- 1:51Yeah.
- 1:51I didn't realize how shocking it is if you don't know what you're expecting, but I have to say,
- 1:58it seemed like you were enjoying it almost in this part.
- 2:02I mean, I had two hours of warmup from part one and part two, so this one was a bit better.
- 2:07Well, should we jump into the out of context summary?
- 2:12Let's do it.
- 2:13All right.
- 2:13In this episode, Father Martin steps up his finger painting game.
- 2:17I think someone got interrupted while preparing some finger food, and we learned that the
- 2:24wall rider is kind of freaky.
- 2:27Anything before we jump into scene one?
- 2:29Nope.
- 2:30Well, Miles fights his way outside to meet Father Martin and comes face to face with
- 2:35the wall rider.
- 2:36So in document one, we learned that an orderly was pretty much have them accept his
- 2:42resignation letter.
- 2:44But the thing is that is it some kind of pattern where if someone is resigning or probably
- 2:51from inseparation, they automatically get admitted as a patient?
- 2:56It seems kind of weird, but it kind of seems to be the pattern.
- 3:00Because if you remember in the last part, we found another document where this orderly,
- 3:09David N.
- 3:12I don't know how you say that name.
- 3:15A N N A O U R N A.
- 3:18What is that?
- 3:19I have no clue.
- 3:20Anyway, so we found a document from him saying that he wanted to be reassigned and that he
- 3:26would consider going to the press.
- 3:27And I don't know if you remember, but we were mentioning we might come across his body later.
- 3:34I don't know if we saw his body, but we do see this note.
- 3:37So we know he is a patient.
- 3:39So maybe he's one of these guys running around causing havoc for Miles.
- 3:44Nobody gets out of here.
- 3:46Nope.
- 3:46You either work for them or you become a patient and get tortured.
- 3:49Exactly.
- 3:51Well, Miles runs into a patient in the cafeteria who has torched the entire room.
- 3:56He says,
- 3:59I had to burn it.
- 4:01All of it.
- 4:03Murkoff took so much from us.
- 4:05Used us.
- 4:07Turned us into these things because nobody cares about a few forgotten loon kicks.
- 4:13Miles cares, right?
- 4:15And whoever sent that email to Miles cares.
- 4:18So, I mean, he's got that going for him.
- 4:20It's a bit too late, though.
- 4:21It is a bit too late because Miles takes a note here.
- 4:24And it sounds like this guy just sat there and calmly burned to death.
- 4:30But the other question is, is this guy, would you consider him stable or not stable?
- 4:34Because he seems to know what he's just doing and he chooses death.
- 4:39But at the same time, his methods are a bit like, ehh.
- 4:43Bit extreme.
- 4:45I think he's trying to take it down with him.
- 4:47We don't really know what he's experienced, but it seems pretty awful.
- 4:50So I think he's as stable as you can be considering what may have been pumped into his mind.
- 4:57The patient tells Miles how he can get out and then continues to just sit with the flames closing in on him.
- 5:03So Miles heads out to try to escape.
- 5:06And at one point he happens across document number two,
- 5:11which is,
- 5:12Psychopathological Proximity Stress Disorder Pamphlet.
- 5:16All it says is, if you're seeing things, say something.
- 5:19Say something so we can capture you.
- 5:21Yeah, so it's like, where to go for help if you're seeing things.
- 5:26So it seems like even the workers who have not had the treatment,
- 5:30they're experiencing side effects of some sort.
- 5:33How does this treatment, does it leak?
- 5:36Is it transmitted from the patients?
- 5:38Like, what do you think is going on here?
- 5:40How are the workers being affected by this?
- 5:43I think it's just trauma of inflicting that kind of trauma.
- 5:48Inflicting that kind of torture onto the patients.
- 5:51I don't know anyone who is sane, who can do that stuff for a prolonged period of time and not feel it and not have that get to in them.
- 6:00I think it's just the guilt and everything getting to them.
- 6:03Not necessarily that it's contagious.
- 6:07So on his way to find the sprinklers,
- 6:10we run into big guy Chris Walker again.
- 6:15And I just have to mention,
- 6:16I am just realizing there's not really voice acting from the main character,
- 6:21but you hear the breathing, swallowing and like other mouth noises.
- 6:27And then the heart beating.
- 6:29And it's really good sound design.
- 6:31It really makes you nervous.
- 6:33And then I also noticed when you run and then stop running, the heartbeat is like faster.
- 6:39And then, I don't even know how to start talking about this.
- 6:43Um, the bathtub?
- 6:44The bathtub.
- 6:45The bathtub.
- 6:46Yes.
- 6:48What the hell is happening in that bathtub?
- 6:51It's so disgusting.
- 6:51I like slightly gagged a bit watching that because it's so disturbing.
- 6:58It is not what you ever want to see and not what you ever want to hear.
- 7:03He says, we're going to search every little crevice until we find that key.
- 7:07I know one of your babies has it.
- 7:10So what key and what are the babies?
- 7:13This is a dead male from the looks of it.
- 7:17So I also do think there's also some kind of sexual abuse going on with the way
- 7:25he speaks to him and touching him and everything.
- 7:28And it's not just his body there.
- 7:30There's other bodies and other bathtubs and each one of them is filled with water and it's bloody.
- 7:36Something is going down.
- 7:37This is this bathroom is this patient's domain.
- 7:41But I don't think he has found what he's looking for and hopefully he never will.
- 7:46I kind of hope Chris Walker gets him though, because that is disturbing.
- 7:51And Miles takes another note here after he sees this.
- 7:55Do you want to tell us what that note says, Kathy?
- 7:58He's like, I said it before, but this place I've still got those fingers left.
- 8:02Man, I tried to trick you.
- 8:05So, okay.
- 8:07For all the people listening, Kathy prickles her.
- 8:10Kathy proclaims to have never said a curse word.
- 8:15I don't believe her.
- 8:17I don't know how you can go through life.
- 8:20It's bad.
- 8:20It started from being a challenge into seeing how long it can go and it went for multiple years.
- 8:27So a lot of people around me, who try to pressure me and everything,
- 8:32I just, it became a thing where I just try to piss them off and it drives my sister insane
- 8:39and drives my cousin who's in the Navy and he's a sailor.
- 8:42And of course he swears a lot.
- 8:43Literally has the mouth of a sailor.
- 8:45Yeah.
- 8:46I really thought I was going to get you.
- 8:48You said effing.
- 8:49I mean, every time we bleep you, you're not saying it.
- 8:51You're saying effing.
- 8:52No.
- 8:53F this place.
- 8:55The bleep is for comedic effect, but now everyone knows it's fake.
- 8:59I will get you to curse on this show.
- 9:02It will happen.
- 9:03My sister's going to be so sad.
- 9:05She's like, I better be the first person who hears you curse.
- 9:08We'll get it on recording and I'll send it to her.
- 9:11I need to team up with her.
- 9:13You know what?
- 9:13You cannot go this long through life and have never cursed.
- 9:16I don't believe you.
- 9:18Anyway.
- 9:18One day though.
- 9:20Anything before we get to document number three?
- 9:22Nope.
- 9:23Miles finds the next document, which is MK Ultra Program Excerpt.
- 9:28So we're back to the CIA stuff and it's talking about sleep induction, hypnotic techniques,
- 9:33controlling and altering a person's actions and personality using hypnosis.
- 9:38They also mentioned a sleep inducing machine.
- 9:42What is that?
- 9:43I feel like it's just melatonin on steroids to get everyone to sleep.
- 9:50I don't know what I was expecting you to come up with when it wasn't that.
- 9:54I mean, here's the thing though.
- 9:58Here's the thing though, it's influenced by recently I started using the, sponsor us please,
- 10:05Dr. Teal's melatonin spray and I got some for my sister and I saved myself some and I've been
- 10:12using it.
- 10:13It works like a charm.
- 10:14So I'm like sleep inducing, it's melatonin.
- 10:17Okay.
- 10:18I don't think it's quite as innocent as spraying Dr. Teal's on one's pillow.
- 10:23I don't think so either.
- 10:23They do mention for the purposes, they're doing this for the purposes of war and agency problems.
- 10:30So is this like testing mind control for like CIA agents, military personnel?
- 10:37Is that what you're picking up on?
- 10:38What are you picking up on with all the CIA stuff?
- 10:41So I will do two parts so we can shuffle this around, but I want to get it out before I forget.
- 10:45Is the first part, at this point in the game when I'm watching it, I feel like they're just creating
- 10:50some kind of like a war tool, something that they're going to use against other countries
- 10:56and they're doing all this exploration on them.
- 10:59But learning about it now, like after watching the game and then going back and talking about this,
- 11:06I think the involvement with the government is that they're using it at some point against other
- 11:12countries like World War II.
- 11:14They're trying to either make their own super soldiers to fight against the Nazis or I don't
- 11:21know if they're on the other side of the war, I hope not.
- 11:24But maybe they were just trying to figure out some way to kill more people without needing
- 11:31to sacrifice their better soldiers.
- 11:34Yeah.
- 11:35And if we go back to the first MK Ultra document, I think in part one, it mentions like they
- 11:42convinced someone to shoot another person under hypnosis, I mean with blanks.
- 11:47So it seems like that is part of their focus, getting people to shoot other people.
- 11:54So is this like a forced draft?
- 11:57We're not drafting people, we're hypnotizing people into service, into killing people?
- 12:03Like honestly, it sounds like they're trying to initiate some kind of genocide that they're
- 12:09going to make people kill their own.
- 12:12That's like another thought is that they're going to invade some country just to have
- 12:16power and if you don't listen, we're going to use our own people against you.
- 12:21Well, Miles makes it outside and I think we might have seen a ghost in the rain.
- 12:28It was kind of hard to tell.
- 12:31But moving along, we find a document that appears to have been left specifically for Miles
- 12:38from Father Martin.
- 12:39He makes more religious references and then tells Miles he's waiting for him.
- 12:45And then in this note, he talks about like we're all experiencing pain and he says,
- 12:50and you are nearly done.
- 12:52So does Father Martin feel like he's in charge in a way?
- 12:56I mean, because he says you are nearly done.
- 12:58So that's him deciding when Miles is part and all of this is over.
- 13:04Well, the fact that he's still alive and no one really goes and attacks him is
- 13:09makes me think that everyone at this place listens or respects Father Martin in some
- 13:15sort of way where, eh, let's not kill him quite yet.
- 13:19So I feel like he is in charge of everything going on and he manipulates situations.
- 13:27So it ends up where he wants Miles to be.
- 13:30He stopped Miles from escaping in the first part by shutting the power off and then
- 13:35roofing him.
- 13:36So he's definitely controlling things here and I just think he keeps saying the wall
- 13:40rider is like their lord, but then he's kind of acting like he is because he's controlling
- 13:47the situation and everyone.
- 13:48Unless he's controlling the wall rider.
- 13:50Yeah, he could be.
- 13:51I mean, we don't know, but Father Martin is, I think he needs some help.
- 13:55The removal of the finger paints, it really pushed him over the edge.
- 14:01Also, he's going to be even more pissed because Miles turned on the sprinkler and that's
- 14:05probably washing all the paint and all the hard work that Father Martin did.
- 14:08That's true.
- 14:09And then what happens when he runs out of blood is like, what's he going to paint with
- 14:12next?
- 14:14I don't want to know.
- 14:15Poop.
- 14:17It's very organic paint.
- 14:20Not a very sought after medium at this point in time, but you know what?
- 14:25It'll be a hot commodity once that blood runs out.
- 14:28So there's a note saying, I think it's addressed to Paul.
- 14:32I'm not sure because there is no heading, but it's that he's waiting ahead.
- 14:38So where is this ahead?
- 14:39And is he like a patient to a doctor or patient to an employee?
- 14:45This is a note that Father Martin left for Miles.
- 14:50Who's Paul then?
- 14:52He, it's just a biblical reference.
- 14:56My bad.
- 14:59Okay, nevermind.
- 15:01Nevermind.
- 15:08Did anyone want to ask about how we got outside though?
- 15:11Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 15:13So I still stuck on the Paul thing and just not get that.
- 15:20Okay.
- 15:22So Miles is already outside.
- 15:24The question is, how did he get outside that easily?
- 15:28If he knew how to do it, why didn't he just do it
- 15:30earlier or is it again manipulated by Father Martin?
- 15:35Exactly.
- 15:36Or if you remember in the last part when Trigger was wheel-chairing Miles to the elevator,
- 15:42we see this door and I have the same question.
- 15:46How is there an open door when Miles has been sealed in here?
- 15:50And so I think it's just like an inner courtyard.
- 15:53The building surrounds this.
- 15:55So I don't think it's a way out, but I think
- 15:58I would still try.
- 15:59I would hop a few fences, you know?
- 16:01I mean, he does sort of scale a building.
- 16:04So we get to a building and I know you saw the ghost this time.
- 16:10I know you saw it.
- 16:13I mean, it sounds based off of the note that Miles takes when he sees this, that this is
- 16:18the wall rider.
- 16:18Is this mystery solved?
- 16:20Not quite.
- 16:21I had more later on.
- 16:23Okay.
- 16:23But I think the wall rider, it's really dumb, but I just think it's a mystery.
- 16:28I think the only thing I have is like, what the was that?
- 16:31Fair reaction.
- 16:32It looks like a ghost, but a skeleton.
- 16:35It's creepy.
- 16:37And then after the scary ghost thing pops up at Miles, he keeps running and passes someone who says,
- 16:43how do you know you're not a patient?
- 16:46And I assume he's talking to Miles.
- 16:48So does Miles not look like a patient?
- 16:52Or is this guy hearing Miles' thoughts?
- 16:56How does he know Miles doesn't think he's a patient?
- 16:59You know what I'm saying?
- 17:01I feel like that person was once an employee there, not a original patient, but somehow
- 17:10turned into patient that's still fighting it.
- 17:12So that was my reaction is that he's fighting it.
- 17:15He's half awake and half just everything's blurry.
- 17:20Okay.
- 17:20So you don't think he's necessarily talking to Miles or just passing some guy who's rambling?
- 17:25Yeah.
- 17:26Okay.
- 17:26But it also does bring up a good question.
- 17:29How can Miles know he's not a patient?
- 17:31That's a really good question.
- 17:34All right.
- 17:34Miles has now made it past Chris Walker.
- 17:37And honestly, does Chris Walker not hear someone belly crawling through the grass?
- 17:44And I know it's raining and there's some thunder,
- 17:47but it seems like there might be some like splashing, some smooshing sounds.
- 17:52I feel like he maybe would have heard it.
- 17:54But anyway, Miles makes it past and this is when he takes his fourth note
- 18:01when he comes across this bloody fountain.
- 18:04I don't know if you have any questions on this note that he took.
- 18:08Nope.
- 18:09But I'm curious why all bodies of water in this game are always bloody.
- 18:13Is there no fresh running water here?
- 18:16Father Martin is mixing up his paint, Kathy.
- 18:18You got to add some water in to make it more palatable.
- 18:22Oh gosh.
- 18:22Even in the fountains.
- 18:23Or maybe they're just attracted to dying and being drained of their blood in water.
- 18:29But note number four says, the whispers are making more sense.
- 18:34I'm looking for static.
- 18:36It's like an itch.
- 18:39What?
- 18:40I think I know what static is now.
- 18:42Should I explain it now or later?
- 18:44Yeah, yeah, you go for it.
- 18:45So I think the static is related to the wall rider.
- 18:50Isn't it that he hears or sees static or something that whenever the wall rider is nearer.
- 18:55So if he's looking for static, I feel like it's...
- 18:58The static is a metaphor for the wall rider.
- 19:04And maybe the itch is the whole wall rider trying to prey on him.
- 19:09Which then leads me to a wild theory.
- 19:12Is what if Miles is actually sleeping through this stuff?
- 19:15Like this is his dream.
- 19:17Yeah, that goes back to the question.
- 19:19Is he a patient?
- 19:22Did he actually drive up here?
- 19:24But it's a fair assumption.
- 19:25I mean, he just saw a wall rider and now he's writing some questionable things.
- 19:33And we have not seen him do that yet.
- 19:36So moving on to scene two, Miles makes it back inside and Father Martin makes contact once again.
- 19:42Later on, Miles loses his camera.
- 19:44And man, you just feel naked without that camera.
- 19:47But we'll get to it.
- 19:49Or even when your battery's running low.
- 19:51Oh my gosh, the batteries.
- 19:54We get inside, Father Martin says,
- 19:56You saw the wall rider, didn't you?
- 19:59So number one confirmation that ghost thing is the wall rider.
- 20:05And then he says,
- 20:06This way, revelation is at hand.
- 20:09And now we have to go find Father Martin on the upper floors of the asylum.
- 20:13Father Martin, this man, why does he not just go get Miles and take him to where they need to go?
- 20:21What is with this cat and mouse?
- 20:23Hey, follow the blood.
- 20:24Hey, go this way.
- 20:25I'm going to leave you a note in a manila folder.
- 20:27He likes to make life difficult for everyone.
- 20:31I think he likes control and he needs a reason to finger paint.
- 20:35We continue on through the asylum, chasing Father Martin down.
- 20:41And Miles hears a noise, which turns out to be a head and a dryer.
- 20:48And it seems to trigger something for him.
- 20:51He makes a note here and says,
- 20:53The sound in the machine like the sound in my head when the wall rider appeared.
- 20:57I blink and I see static.
- 20:59Something oily and dark descending behind my eyelids.
- 21:03Watching me with organs I can't imagine.
- 21:06But the sound is coming from the machine too, from inside the walls.
- 21:09I know that sound.
- 21:10Okay.
- 21:11So yeah, this is the second note after seeing the wall rider.
- 21:14And both of the notes after seeing the wall rider are a little iffy.
- 21:19Miles is going through something.
- 21:22So this is where I started to develop a theory on what I think the wall rider is.
- 21:27The sound of the machine I'm thinking is the sound the wall rider makes when it's like moving around.
- 21:35And I'm actually thinking that the wall rider is something that Father Martin is controlling.
- 21:41That it's some kind of projection or some kind of hologram.
- 21:45It uses that machine as a sound effect for it.
- 21:49And I'm thinking that maybe right before it's moving, you get hypnotized.
- 21:55And so you think it's alive when it really isn't.
- 21:58And the static is associated with being hypnotized.
- 22:02That's my theory as of right now.
- 22:05But I'm wondering the oily part.
- 22:07How does that play into the situation?
- 22:09Interesting.
- 22:10So you think Father Martin is making the wall rider?
- 22:14You think he's being real devious boy, Father Martin?
- 22:19I mean, it could be him.
- 22:20It could be someone else that we haven't met yet.
- 22:22But I do think it's one of the leaders of that group of people.
- 22:27So my question with this note, is Miles starting to be affected?
- 22:31Is he starting to be affected in a similar way as we've seen with the workers?
- 22:37Like mentioned in that pamphlet of people saying things.
- 22:41You know, if he's truly not a patient, is he sort of starting to be affected by this second hand?
- 22:48You know, these side effects?
- 22:49And are these side effects brought about by just seeing the wall rider?
- 22:53And not necessarily the treatment?
- 22:55I think he's affected, but he started to piece together some things.
- 23:00He definitely is affected by the wall rider.
- 23:03But I do think it's just because he was hypnotized and not necessarily because he's a patient.
- 23:10Although I do like that theory that he's right now sleeping and being controlled.
- 23:16So that's my other theory.
- 23:18But if I don't lean towards that one, I think he's just piecing more things together.
- 23:22I still think he's aware enough of what's going on.
- 23:26Yeah, he does seem a bit more coherent and a bit more, has a bit more of a purpose than most patients we see in this game.
- 23:33He has that going for him for him not being a patient, for him truly being Miles, the investigative journalist.
- 23:40Miles will soon stumble upon document number five titled Wall Rider and Nightmares.
- 23:45We get some background on the wall rider who is also known as Alp, Mara, and Shret.
- 23:51And is a German demon that torments sleepers.
- 23:55So first, dot connecting here.
- 23:58All of the talk of, you know, dream therapy, lucid dreaming.
- 24:02And then in addition to the wall rider tormenting people while they sleep.
- 24:06Does that give us more insight into how these patients are being affected?
- 24:11I think so because it makes sense why the overarching theme of this is getting people to sleep, sleep inducing.
- 24:19You piece together this demon only comes and attacks people who are sleeping.
- 24:24So questioning, is it a single demon?
- 24:26If there's multiple, how did it travel from Germany all the way to, and I think they're in Colorado right now.
- 24:33Just a lot of questions there.
- 24:35It is a good question.
- 24:36And I think I have a theory that I thought of in the next document.
- 24:40So we'll get there pretty soon.
- 24:42But is there anything else about document number five that you want to talk about?
- 24:47Just wanted to add a reaction is towards the end of the sentence, it talks about how that demon.
- 24:51Drinks milk from females and blood from males from their nips.
- 24:58Yeah, he, she, whatever it sounds like kind of a freak.
- 25:05But yeah, let's get in.
- 25:06Let's get into document number six, project paperclip excerpt.
- 25:11And this document talks about project paperclip and mentions the hiring of Nazi war criminals.
- 25:17And then to quote it, thus denying their service to potential enemies.
- 25:22So they're hiring them so that they can't work for their enemies.
- 25:26Is that what I'm understanding?
- 25:28That's what I got.
- 25:29While I was playing this game, kind of creepily coincidentally came across a documentary about project paperclip on discovery plus watch.
- 25:40Now I tried to find the name real quick.
- 25:42I can't, so I'm sorry.
- 25:44But essentially like this was real.
- 25:46This existed and they did hire experimental doctors from Germany.
- 25:50It ran from 1945 to 1959 and it experimented on soldiers who were not really told what exactly they were signing up for.
- 26:01So that sounds kind of similar to the patients here.
- 26:05They did not sign up for this treatment or they were severely misled about what this treatment is.
- 26:11So maybe modern day Mount Massive is just a modern version of project paperclip.
- 26:18That's a really good theory.
- 26:19Scary because these people actually need help and they're getting help by people who also need help.
- 26:27Yeah.
- 26:28But somehow just have more authority.
- 26:31So on his way up to find Father Martin, Miles enters an area with a lot of Father Martins.
- 26:38Artwork and there's like people guarding the fuses that Miles needs.
- 26:46And so that kind of makes me wonder, did Father Martin remove these fuses on purpose so that Miles had to walk through these halls and see all his finger painting messages?
- 26:58I don't know.
- 27:00It seems like his followers are growing.
- 27:03It seems like these people are associated with him.
- 27:06But on the topic of Father Martin, after we do find that key and get up to the third floor,
- 27:12there is a note left for Miles that says, follow the blood.
- 27:15And on the table below the note is a battery.
- 27:20Looks like it might be Energizer.
- 27:22Do you think Father Martin is leaving batteries for Miles?
- 27:27This one is rested right below his message to him.
- 27:30And we do know that Father Martin wants Miles to witness everything that's happening.
- 27:37It seems like he wants him to film everything.
- 27:39So do you think he's leaving batteries around for Miles to find?
- 27:42I think so.
- 27:43Because where else are they going to get batteries from?
- 27:47Why the witness?
- 27:48Why is Father Martin so bent on having Miles record proof of the wall rider?
- 27:55I'm kind of split between my two theories.
- 27:57If I lean towards the one about how he's actually sleeping through this, I think it's just to prove
- 28:05that he can control people in their actions when they're sleeping, but to just also be there to
- 28:09help film everything that he can't do it all by himself.
- 28:12So we're just going to have one of these test experiments help me record this.
- 28:16So that's if I lean into the theory that Miles is sleeping.
- 28:20So in our next document, it's titled You Promised Me a Rose Garden, and it is an excerpt from the
- 28:27diary of Shirley Pierce, who was earlier referenced in an MKUltra doc.
- 28:32She is the one who they convinced hypnotized to shoot Miss Jackson with a blank, and she has
- 28:39mysterious cuts.
- 28:41The doctor says it's from resisting the hypnotherapy.
- 28:44Do we believe him?
- 28:45I honestly think she's trying to kill herself. Trigger warning, but I think she's trying to kill
- 28:50herself to leave, but she keeps getting saved by people so they can continue their experiments.
- 28:57Something's definitely going on.
- 28:58They're definitely lying to her.
- 28:59What the heck about asking someone else if they have some issues and they're like, that man finds
- 29:05comfort in another woman?
- 29:06Yeah, sounds like marital problems.
- 29:10Of the exact nature, we don't know, but it seems sexual in nature.
- 29:18And both of their husbands are now cheating on them.
- 29:22So it seems like it's an issue with the women.
- 29:29And I am confused as to what exactly is going on here.
- 29:33What exactly is going on here?
- 29:35And I am confused as to what exactly is going on here.
- 29:40Where did they go?
- 29:41We don't see them anywhere.
- 29:42Yeah.
- 29:43Well, this is from the CIA stuff, so they're older.
- 29:46This was like the 40s and 50s.
- 29:48But not even their bodies are at the place.
- 29:51Yeah.
- 29:52We don't know what happened to these ladies.
- 29:54And honestly, I have a hard time deciphering this note.
- 29:58If anyone listening has more insight into this note, send us an email.
- 30:04Message us on Instagram because I don't understand this one.
- 30:08Okay.
- 30:09And now continuing to traverse the dilapidated halls of Matt Massive asylum, Miles stumbles
- 30:17upon a very gory room.
- 30:20There's just blood everywhere and it says, lies on the wall.
- 30:24More of Father Martin's signature penmanship.
- 30:27Miles makes a note after seeing this.
- 30:30And I don't know if you want to give any notes on that.
- 30:35This one is about recognizing the handwriting and knowing that Father Martin killed a man
- 30:43in that room.
- 30:44And he says that, are the lies he's talking about all the files missing from these boxes?
- 30:49The facts, the records, they look like government agency material at least 30 years old, probably
- 30:54older.
- 30:55I'm starting to think the MKUltra CIA mind control, the buzzing won't stop.
- 30:59So the first time I read this, a lot to decipher and dissect in this, but we know Father Martin,
- 31:06it's confirmed he's a killer too.
- 31:08But I'm also curious, what else is in those boxes?
- 31:11Like, do we get to know more the stuff that's missing in there?
- 31:15I don't think so.
- 31:15Are those the confidential files that are scattered around everywhere?
- 31:18That's what I'm wondering if those are the MKUltra and Project Paperclip documents that
- 31:24Miles has found so far.
- 31:25But what are the lies in reference to?
- 31:27Is Father Martin saying,
- 31:29No, it's not hypnosis.
- 31:30It's the Wall Rider.
- 31:31Is he seeing this as like, you know, blasphemous against his Wall Rider God?
- 31:38I think so.
- 31:39I think you're right that the lies is trying to convince everyone else to think that whatever
- 31:44is in these files are fake.
- 31:47This is when I had my theory.
- 31:50Was the CIA attempting mind control what led to the hiring of Dr. Wernicke?
- 31:56And did he bring the Wall Rider to them as a new form of mind control?
- 32:02You know, was the hypnosis failing or maybe not as controlling on some patients as they
- 32:09wanted and so they hired Wernicke because he claimed to have this new method of controlling
- 32:16through dreams and all that stuff?
- 32:18Is that how the Wall Rider got here and is the Wall Rider, you know, the next test on
- 32:23controlling people?
- 32:25I think that's a good theory.
- 32:26I don't know about if he brought him over, but I do think it's a good next step of whatever
- 32:33their plan was.
- 32:34Well, yeah, no one's ever satisfied, right?
- 32:36Oh, we hypnotized someone to shoot another person.
- 32:38Not good enough.
- 32:39Bring in that demon, sir.
- 32:41We need it.
- 32:42Mm hmm.
- 32:43Going back the other way with my theory that the Wall Rider isn't real, and we mentioned
- 32:48about the oil.
- 32:49So I'm thinking, is there some kind of mechanism that the Wall Rider is floating on and it
- 32:56uses oil?
- 32:57And that's why when it goes, like it kind of like goes through you, not really through
- 33:02you, but if it touches you, that's why Miles feels the oil behind his eyes.
- 33:08So this kind of would go against your father, Martin, controlling making up the Wall Rider
- 33:13theory, but you made me have a thought.
- 33:15I have watched some ghost investigating shows.
- 33:18Guilty pleasure.
- 33:20So if this is like a demon thing, there is something that they say, like ectoplasm, I
- 33:26don't know if you've heard of that, is like this weird goo from ghosts.
- 33:31So if this is a demon, could this be this black goo?
- 33:35Could that be like the ectoplasm?
- 33:37Like if it touches you?
- 33:39But here's the thing, I think it's man control.
- 33:42I think it's operating off of some kind of like wheels or some kind of machinery that
- 33:47uses oil or tar or whatever that black goo is.
- 33:50I think it's all manmade.
- 33:52I think it's maybe another project that the CIA is bringing in.
- 33:56Interesting.
- 33:57I mean, I like your theory and I like that Father Martin is, your lack of trust for him
- 34:03is so intense.
- 34:05I just don't trust him.
- 34:07I mean, I don't blame you.
- 34:09Anything else before we get to losing this camera?
- 34:12Nope.
- 34:13Okay, so after leaving this room, we do have another run in with the scary dudes with dongs
- 34:18out.
- 34:19Lots of blurring had to be done, but after we sort of evade them, we are almost to Father
- 34:27Martin and Miles has to jump across a broken floor.
- 34:31When he lands, the floor starts to collapse, his camera falls.
- 34:36Here's my issue with this.
- 34:37After all that effort with very few remaining fingers to cling to that floor and get up
- 34:43there, he just jumps down.
- 34:47He just jumps down to go find his camera.
- 34:50That's my last note is that, well, thank goodness it was his fingers that are cut and not his
- 34:55toes because all that jumping from the walls, like up, down, across that narrow pathway
- 35:01on the outside, it wouldn't have been possible had he had some kind of camera.
- 35:06It wouldn't have been possible had he had some toes removed.
- 35:08So maybe that's why that his toes are fine so he can do that super power of jumping down
- 35:14from high spaces.
- 35:15Well, actually, excellent point because if you remember in the last part when Dr. Traeger
- 35:21is hunting down Miles, he says, I should have cut his feet first.
- 35:25Rookie mistake.
- 35:26Well, so maybe there's an explanation there.
- 35:28Dr. Traeger just got a little too excited and he should have cut off his feet first.
- 35:33But I guess it's a good thing that he did not.
- 35:35And after jumping off of the floor that he tried so desperately to get to, he goes to
- 35:40find his camera and we got jump scared so good.
- 35:43I've seen this game a few times.
- 35:45I played through it twice and then edited it and now I'm watching it with you.
- 35:49And I still forgot about this jump scare.
- 35:52And I jumped.
- 35:54There is a little bit of delay.
- 35:55So I looked if you were jumping.
- 35:57Lo and behold, up comes Jake over your face.
- 36:00Thank goodness for the llama.
- 36:02I screamed too.
- 36:03This game twice.
- 36:06It wasn't just one.
- 36:07One you warned me about.
- 36:09So I was slightly prepared by a little scream and then Jake was there to protect me.
- 36:15But this one just really got me.
- 36:17I mean, any other notes for you on part three?
- 36:21No, I just need to know how this ends.
- 36:23I'm like ready to start watching part four and record it today.
- 36:28Well, I need to make the outline first so we can't do that.
- 36:31I'm ready to see how it ends.
- 36:33Yeah, we have got some questions.
- 36:34I think a lot of them will be answered in part four.
- 36:38We are releasing that.
- 36:39Should be out now and we'll talk about it next week.
- 36:44Anything else you want to mention?
- 36:45Any any words of wisdom from Jake?
- 36:48Jake, the alpaca.
- 36:49See what kind of words of wisdom let him whisper in my ear.
- 36:53He said, father, mine should not be trusted.
- 36:56I agree.
- 36:57Do you want to count us off?
- 36:59Do you want to count us off?
- 37:02Yep.
- 37:02Let's do voice recorder on one, three, two, one.