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Sonic Submission With CASEY & IAN From ANGELMAKER · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: I'm Ian Bear.
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  Speaker 2: I just joined these guys recently and it's been nothing
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  Speaker 2: short of a great time.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm Casey Tayson Pierce.
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  Speaker 3: I've been in the band since day one, so that's
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  Speaker 3: thirteen and a half years now.
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  Speaker 4: And yes, just I love all these guys that are
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  Speaker 4: with and yeah, for those who don't know, we are
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  Speaker 4: Angel Maker and we just released a new song called
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  Speaker 4: Relinquish and we got a lot more on the way.
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  Speaker 5: Fantastic guys. Thanks for joining us today, Thank you, thanks
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  Speaker 5: for having us all right that we'll get under olinquish surely,
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  Speaker 5: but before that and Jamaica are actually hitting Australia for
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  Speaker 5: the first time ever our next February for a run
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  Speaker 5: of show supporting Stylosis, starting in Perth on February eleventh,
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  Speaker 5: moving through Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney and finishing in Brisbane on
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  Speaker 5: the sixteenth of February. So I suppose the first question
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  Speaker 5: is Guy's wife. You neglected us for so long, thirty
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  Speaker 5: and a half years.
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  Speaker 1: We've been trying.
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  Speaker 3: We've really been trying to come over to Australia, which
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  Speaker 3: is nothing has like really aligned for us necessarily, and
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  Speaker 3: we like just did our first European tour like a
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  Speaker 3: year and a half ago. So we've been working our
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  Speaker 3: way into more international markets. But for us, like we're Canadians,
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  Speaker 3: so it makes a lot more sense for us to
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  Speaker 3: just like.
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  Speaker 1: Tour in North America. But now we've.
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  Speaker 3: Got like good foothold to actually make our way over there.
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  Speaker 1: We got this opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: We're like, there's no way We're saying though, we need
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  Speaker 3: to see cold wabbers, we need to see tengal cruise.
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  Speaker 5: Dad a drink Australian bea yeah, we.
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  Speaker 1: Need shoes shoeies.
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  Speaker 5: You guys don't here, But it's about we only avoid
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  Speaker 5: the shoeies as much as like kind of people talk
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  Speaker 5: about them like they're a good thing, but they're really not.
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  Speaker 5: Now what's the like you guys like just down Europe
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  Speaker 5: for the first time too, But when you do a
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  Speaker 5: first toll like you're going to do to Australia, you
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  Speaker 5: do a bit of research. So I do ask people
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  Speaker 5: what to expect or do you rather come in cold
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  Speaker 5: and just take it as it comes.
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  Speaker 1: M I've been there. I was there X amount of
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  Speaker 1: years ago, so I'm kind of familiar. Had a great time.
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  Speaker 1: These gentlemen.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're just kind of going to kind of
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  Speaker 2: dive in head first and and just just go for it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what to expect necessarily, Like I
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  Speaker 3: know we're going to be driving on the other side
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  Speaker 3: of the road at a gas station.
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  Speaker 1: Is called sero research, and that's all I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I need to know.
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  Speaker 5: You're a natural. What are you actually expecting from Australian crowds,
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  Speaker 5: because we did do things a little bit differently everya.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. All I've heard that Ausie's are
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  Speaker 1: a wild bunch.
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  Speaker 5: What what on the other foot, guys, what can we
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  Speaker 5: expect from you?
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  Speaker 2: Some some damn good shows, some damn good music, have
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  Speaker 2: a couple of beers, a couple hangouts, just kind of
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  Speaker 2: enjoying ourselves and making sure everybody else enjoys their night
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  Speaker 2: and maybe play play it, you know, some new stuff,
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  Speaker 2: the old stuff, and a fair amount.
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  Speaker 1: Of metal I would imagine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to think of it as a kind
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  Speaker 3: of like a dark circus act is what we're doing.
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  Speaker 1: So a whole bunch of monkey business on stage.
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  Speaker 3: And then back up and go to the next place,
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  Speaker 3: you know, traveling circus sort of business.
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  Speaker 5: Then yeah, coming over a special guests of Stylosis guys.
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  Speaker 5: So is there a bit of a relationship there or
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  Speaker 5: did it just sort of come about through management?
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  Speaker 1: It came about through management.
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  Speaker 3: We have never met any of the Cyclosis guys yet,
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  Speaker 3: and even in that department, we don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know what to expect, but we're happy to be on
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  Speaker 1: a tour rhythm. It's pretty damn cool.
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  Speaker 5: They must like something about it because it'll obviously be
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  Speaker 5: a lot cheaper of them to get a band from Australia.
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  Speaker 5: So bringing you guys out here that they must see
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  Speaker 5: something in you that they like. Yeah, now you personally
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  Speaker 5: says that you play deaf core of the highest order,
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  Speaker 5: injected with black and thrash, a smattering of power, violence,
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  Speaker 5: an urgent ferocity of underground hardcore. It sounds like you
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  Speaker 5: guys should come with the warning label. It sounds pretty
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  Speaker 5: fucking full on.
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  Speaker 1: And we're trying to get the whole mixed bag.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that sound come from guys like it sounds like
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  Speaker 5: you've just sort of you plucked from the most vicious, violent,
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  Speaker 5: brutal core areas of the world. You could.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, many different inspirations for like where we've derived or sound.
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  Speaker 3: One of them's the Black Valley murder for sure. Job
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  Speaker 3: for a cowboy cattle decap Our guitarist Colt, and he
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  Speaker 3: loves black metal, so he'll derive a lot of his
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  Speaker 3: inspiration for writing from black metal bands and just hardcore
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  Speaker 3: bands as well. He just likes the whole mix and
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  Speaker 3: as he's writing, it just kind of comes out as
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  Speaker 3: it does.
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  Speaker 1: And Yeah, that would be more of a question for him.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like he would be able to articulate how
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  Speaker 3: you write in that sense. But I'll take the parts
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  Speaker 3: from his songs and if it just sounds like I
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  Speaker 3: should go more towards this like cryptic sort of black
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  Speaker 3: Dalli and Murders style vocal section, then I'll write a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more like that, or it's just like a
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  Speaker 3: belligerent sort of like hardcore section, write a little more.
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  Speaker 5: Like that along those lines like that, those bands that
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  Speaker 5: you mentioned that you sort of draw influence from, they're
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  Speaker 5: all heavyweights of the genre. So yourselves as a band,
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  Speaker 5: when you draw an influence from artists like that, like
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  Speaker 5: how how does it these days to put your own
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  Speaker 5: spin on it and get your own sound because that
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  Speaker 5: sort of stuff's being done a lot of it is.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's quite saturated these days for what's happening.
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  Speaker 3: But we try to keep it as original as we
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  Speaker 3: possibly can. You know, sometimes you kind to look back
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  Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, that's actually been done before. We're
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  Speaker 3: just writing, like I tried to write for what is
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  Speaker 3: in my heart.
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  Speaker 1: Put it out there. Sometimes might be exactly what somebody
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  Speaker 1: else had written in their hearts. Who would have.
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  Speaker 5: Thought there's two black hearts the same out there that
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  Speaker 5: the person really is. Hang, I'll miss that one. Sorry,
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  Speaker 5: So I did this year, drew my release. Sorry, You're
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  Speaker 5: welcome in Vocalist the End, Bro, so introduce yourself. I'll
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  Speaker 5: leave you out of it. In casey, you introduced us
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  Speaker 5: to him and tell us what he brings to the band.
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  Speaker 1: So I used to be in a band called Rings
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  Speaker 1: the saddern for a while.
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  Speaker 2: I've previously toured with these guys a couple of times,
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  Speaker 2: and I've always enjoyed, like the awesome their music because
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  Speaker 2: there's a hundred of them on stage basically, and it's
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  Speaker 2: just it was just always crazy to see all the
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  Speaker 2: moving parts kind of come together and like a cohesive sound.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that because there are so many of
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  Speaker 2: us that it we're kind of able to have a
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  Speaker 2: unique sound like that, and the music that I had
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  Speaker 2: created prior to being an angel Maker was also pretty unique.
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  Speaker 2: So it felt like a really good mesh. Kind of
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  Speaker 2: just a puzzle piece kind of slapped into place there
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  Speaker 2: because we're all kind of a little out there.
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  Speaker 1: We all write a little a.
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  Speaker 2: Little crazy, and yeah, we're just meshing together really well
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  Speaker 2: and everything's kind of snowballing really organically, and the music
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  Speaker 2: that we're creating together now is.
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  Speaker 1: Just fun, Like there's no everyone does.
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  Speaker 2: Their their part just beautifully and it just all comes together.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very excited too to release what we've been working on,
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  Speaker 2: more of what we've been working on, and to show
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  Speaker 2: everyone this this kind of next step and where we're
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  Speaker 2: heading with it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's your sake on it now. You see
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  Speaker 5: you showing the truth. What do you think he's brought
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  Speaker 5: to the band after this?
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  Speaker 1: Well, working with Ian is a blessing. Like this guy's
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  Speaker 1: a power.
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  Speaker 3: How Like I'm in the studio what we're recording on
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  Speaker 3: our record that's coming out, and like relinquished our single
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  Speaker 3: and I'm just like.
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  Speaker 1: The whole time. Yeah, like what to expect for people?
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  Speaker 1: Bring a diaper because you white ship your hands.
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  Speaker 5: Let's driving, what's it what's it like with I guess
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  Speaker 5: the dynamics between having three vocal us like yourselves in
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  Speaker 5: the same band. It'd be awesome on stage. But if
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  Speaker 5: there's something you've got to work on separately, like at rehearsal,
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  Speaker 5: do you just just to two ob your's and work
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  Speaker 5: on that sort of dynamics and gelling together.
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  Speaker 3: It's a good question. So it's a little interesting for
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  Speaker 3: what we have just written. Some of it had been
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  Speaker 3: like written before a little bit, and we had to
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  Speaker 3: like tweak a couple of things. And it's like Ian
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  Speaker 3: had his chunk of songs, I had my chunk of
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  Speaker 3: songs and we kind of like mesh them together and
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  Speaker 3: gave each other input on ideas to like really make
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  Speaker 3: them work for each other.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what we've been doing in the past, just like.
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  Speaker 3: We'll like come together with like a topic that we
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  Speaker 3: agree on for the song, and it's like one person
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  Speaker 3: writes their version, the other person writes theres and we
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  Speaker 3: try to like see if we can integrate them together
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  Speaker 3: and like patterns, which line sounds better, which a array
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  Speaker 3: of words makes the most amount of sense, and things
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  Speaker 3: like that. But it has been a really interesting process
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  Speaker 3: for the both of us, and especially like Ian learning,
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  Speaker 3: like what's been.
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  Speaker 1: Going on at the studio and how.
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  Speaker 3: We uh strategize the vocals and play this like vocal
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  Speaker 3: lead fraud where it's like he'll do one line, I
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  Speaker 3: do the next, and then he'll do that one and
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  Speaker 3: then layer on this one and then I start the next,
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  Speaker 3: and we try to write it so that there's the
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  Speaker 3: most amount of emphasis on certain parts, but also having
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  Speaker 3: a crazy conslaught of vocals that is almost not possible
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  Speaker 3: for one person to do. Some people have done it,
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  Speaker 3: but we try to strategize it so that we can,
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  Speaker 3: you know, breathe.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there is one for you there, guys, Like which
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  Speaker 5: I suppose which one would be harder for to adjust to,
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  Speaker 5: like you coming into the band in as a new
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  Speaker 5: vocalist or you as haven't done it this way for
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  Speaker 5: so long and then having to integrate in with the
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  Speaker 5: in boom.
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  Speaker 2: For me personally, like I I kind of went into
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  Speaker 2: it thinking having two vocalists would be more or less like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, half half the work two of us, you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of split it up. But it's a lot more
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  Speaker 2: mentally challenging than people think because you're not only you're
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  Speaker 2: not on learning the songs and learning the patterns, but
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  Speaker 2: you also have to learn what to do and what
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  Speaker 2: not to do. So he's got he's got his parts,
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  Speaker 2: I've got my parts. We've got both of us. We've
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  Speaker 2: got Coulton who also does vocals. So it's it's just
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  Speaker 2: like a giant puzzle that you really have to learn
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  Speaker 2: how to navigate. It's a lot more complicated than I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure people anticipate, or that to be really attentive to
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  Speaker 2: the cues, you know, because if.
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  Speaker 3: You think it's if I think it's his line but
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  Speaker 3: it's my line, all of a sudden, there's a plank face.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and then it just sounds weird.
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  Speaker 5: You missed it, Hey, that'd be hard to come back problem.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 5: We mentioned your new song Relie wish it'ds so only
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  Speaker 5: come out just recently, guys. So how's the only reception
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  Speaker 5: been to it?
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  Speaker 1: It's been great. Yeah, people people have given us. It
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  Speaker 1: seems like nothing but positive feedback.
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  Speaker 3: I personally don't go through all the YouTube comments or
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  Speaker 3: whatever and come through it, but the reactions that seemed
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  Speaker 3: to be just like really.
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  Speaker 5: Great, cool and it did say before too, you mentioned
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  Speaker 5: news songs, So I'm taking it that means that's part
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  Speaker 5: of a new album cycle.
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  Speaker 1: It might just mean that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, just hypothetically, if it didn't mean that, what sort
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  Speaker 5: of direction is it going? And is it what people
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  Speaker 5: would expect from Angelmaica or is doing a few curble
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  Speaker 5: that's a good question.
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  Speaker 3: I personally believe this record is still very angel Maker,
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  Speaker 3: but more evolved.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it just feels more.
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  Speaker 5: Rownw you know, I say, and you might have grind up, buddy,
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  Speaker 5: you've done well. The biggest question there with with fans
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  Speaker 5: of ould answer mic and stuff. Be happy with the
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  Speaker 5: new stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I believe so.
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  Speaker 2: Even just from uh like my perspective working with them
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  Speaker 2: and knowing their music prior, like if I was just
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  Speaker 2: an outside listener, it's just as just as vicious, just
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  Speaker 2: as punishing.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, everything's very dialed in.
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  Speaker 2: Everything's kind of kind of like taking taking a little
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  Speaker 2: step off, like we're all raw maturing his musicians were maturing,
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  Speaker 2: these people and that's uh, transcending into the music. But
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  Speaker 2: we it's it is punishing. It's yeah, it's great.
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  Speaker 5: So just say someone's coming along to sea Soils and
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  Speaker 5: the inexplicable He never heard of you, guys, what three
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  Speaker 5: songs should they listen to on the way to the
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  Speaker 5: concert you get to know you better.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to say Leach first and foremost, that's just
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  Speaker 3: a given. We're gonna say Hollow, Hope, and how we
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  Speaker 3: are Dark Golden.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's bread.
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  Speaker 5: Now before we let you go, guys, I've got a
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  Speaker 5: new segment I've started called photo Bomb, which basically means
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  Speaker 5: I've trolled through your social media before i've spoken to here,
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  Speaker 5: and I've come up with a few old photos. I
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  Speaker 5: want to know. I want to know a little bit
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  Speaker 5: more about now. I'm not sure you'ing this one on
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  Speaker 5: the end, but that there, Like, I want to know
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  Speaker 5: what's what's the dynamics like on stage when you're plan
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  Speaker 5: live and you've got two vocalists out the front having
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  Speaker 5: a great time like that and getting right into it, it
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  Speaker 5: must be pretty amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's It's definitely.
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  Speaker 3: Like I can't hear it like from when I'm out there,
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  Speaker 3: but listening back to videos and whatnot, it definitely sounds
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  Speaker 3: a lot larger, just like so inhuman when we play
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  Speaker 3: are like a low and a high live and then
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  Speaker 3: we have like our guitarist Colton, who also does both,
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  Speaker 3: and when all three of us can go together is
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  Speaker 3: just intense. The lat.
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  Speaker 5: Look at a picture and you can feel intensity, but
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  Speaker 5: you look at that and it's just like, fuck me,
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  Speaker 5: that's that's awesome. Yeah, I found this one too. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not sure if this is anyone in the band, but
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  Speaker 5: whoever it is, he's having a hell of a lot
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  Speaker 5: of fun.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's our other guitarist, Johnny. He's riding a little
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  Speaker 1: handicapped scooter in our hometown. And what were we doing.
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  Speaker 1: This was just like after a local show and we're just.
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  Speaker 3: Hanging out, drinking some beers or whatever is going on,
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  Speaker 3: and we've got the drummer of Carcosa there that which
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  Speaker 3: is Johnny's other band, Travis is the drummer, but he's
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  Speaker 3: also on this tour now with us.
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  Speaker 1: He's drumming for Spite and Travis.
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  Speaker 3: Is taking these photos and he's riding his scooter just
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  Speaker 3: like grinding the rails doing all these tricks because he's
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  Speaker 3: like a I wouldn't say he's a pro scooter, but
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  Speaker 3: he's damn good at it. And Johnny's here just trying
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  Speaker 3: to closing the gap of the scooter skills.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't look like it's got any breaks. How did
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  Speaker 5: he stop that nut?
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  Speaker 1: No, that's why I was given to us.
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  Speaker 5: That's some boy, guys in one final thing before you, guys,
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  Speaker 5: tell you like, I know it's going to be a
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  Speaker 5: long way down the track. But when one day when
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  Speaker 5: you do the sw to pull an end of your career,
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  Speaker 5: what do you hope the inscription would be on your
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  Speaker 5: musical chimbstone?
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  Speaker 1: They did it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Those crazy there?
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  Speaker 5: Very good. All right guys. Well I've got to let
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  Speaker 5: you go now, but thanks for your time. It's been
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  Speaker 5: a pleasure. Angel Baker will be out in Australia with
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  Speaker 5: Silosis next February. The new single Relinquish is out now.
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  Speaker 5: There may or may not be more new music coming
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  Speaker 5: out soon, but we'll see you in a couple of months.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes, thank you,