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Chuck & Buck 5-29 Hour 2: 12th man news with Gregg Bell, here comes piggyback 3.0 and a new NBA draft lottery. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Hey got it.
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Speaker 2: He don't need anything here. We'll go one on one.
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Speaker 2: One brings waiting. Wendy's turning to the PI Best Gaming Series.
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Speaker 2: Of course they were invited back to six wash'n YadA
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Speaker 2: three all the out the games you see he's playing
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Speaker 2: in three minute first from gen Yama.
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Speaker 1: He's kick one, finding his comahookie Brans.
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Speaker 2: I want him the goose to them, but Yama works
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Speaker 2: his ways. The stories inside hight in Oklahoma City, when
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Speaker 2: Vinyama from the elbow got it again by the v
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Speaker 2: B from Binyama for another three?
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Speaker 1: Who will grow?
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Speaker 3: Fuck turns?
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Speaker 2: When he follow quarter?
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Speaker 4: What side is first? I got man?
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Speaker 5: Colorado?
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Speaker 1: It last here?
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Speaker 4: How do you talk?
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Speaker 1: Break in GAFA?
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Speaker 2: We need the montage. I'm holding up for a montage.
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Speaker 4: Montage.
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Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs won easily over the Oklahoma Ceity Thunder
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Speaker 2: last night one, eighteen to ninety one. Victor wimb And
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Speaker 2: Yama twenty eight points, ten rebounds, three block shots. He
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Speaker 2: shakes off his rough performance of game five with a
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Speaker 2: sterling performance in game number six. This game really never
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Speaker 2: was close. I said it about game number five. I
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Speaker 2: think it was perpetually. Okase was up thirteen points the
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Speaker 2: entire game. Every time I looked over thirteen points, I
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Speaker 2: know the score was changing. But for whatever reason, the
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Speaker 2: NBA set a rule in Game five that Okase must
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Speaker 2: be up by thirteen points at all times, and they
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Speaker 2: won by thirteen points. Last night, it was more like
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Speaker 2: twenty one because it just Okase just could not cut
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Speaker 2: into the San Antonio lead. So the spurs of even
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Speaker 2: things up, and we're going to have one heck of
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Speaker 2: a game seven. It looks like in the NBA Western
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Speaker 2: Conference Finals tomorrow at five o'clock they'll play that game
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Speaker 2: in Oklahoma.
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Speaker 4: Boo, yeah, boo. Okay sucks.
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Speaker 2: And I said yesterday what makes OKAC special is they're
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Speaker 2: so deep, and the NBA playoffs are about matchups, so
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Speaker 2: they can pretty much match up with just about anything
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Speaker 2: thrown at them because of how deep they are and
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Speaker 2: how versatile they are. But there is no matching up
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Speaker 2: with Wimby. I mean, there's no solution for seven foot
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Speaker 2: five unicorn that can shoot, has thirty five foot range
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Speaker 2: and can take one dribble from the top of the
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Speaker 2: key and hit his head on the back.
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Speaker 4: Is incredible.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So he is the He's the fly in the
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Speaker 2: ointment for them. He is the alien that landed on
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Speaker 2: Earth and might be the guy that saves us from
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Speaker 2: having to watch the Oklahoma City Thunder win five straight
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Speaker 2: NBA championships. And so Game seven we know who Seattle
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Speaker 2: will be rooting for the San Antonio Spurs tomorrow at
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Speaker 2: five o'clock. Good morning, it is Ashley Ryan here. My
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Speaker 2: name is Chuck palcad to have you with us. Greg
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Speaker 2: Bell's going to join us here in about a minute
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Speaker 2: and a half. Let me first get through your headlines.
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Speaker 2: They are brought to you by Frostbrewed Corps Light the Highlights,
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Speaker 2: by the way, from NBC Sports. I should point out
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Speaker 2: NBA also decided yesterday that we are going to have
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Speaker 2: a lottery re formatting of the NBA lottery to try
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Speaker 2: and curb tanking. It's a really interesting proposal. I would
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Speaker 2: say I like it more than I dislike it, and
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Speaker 2: I certainly like it more than the past process that
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Speaker 2: they've used. I think it's time to start rewarding teams
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Speaker 2: that are intentionally losing in our professional sports. And so
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Speaker 2: that's what the NBA is going about, and they're also
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Speaker 2: making it very easy on themselves to rig it even
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Speaker 2: more thoroughly. Can't wait for Yeah, So we'll talk about
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Speaker 2: that coming up at seven forty five today. Storm will
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Speaker 2: be in action tomorrow against the Expans, Ancient Toronto franchise. Also,
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Speaker 2: Stanley Cup playoffs will be held tonight Montreal at Carolina.
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Speaker 2: The Hurricanes have gone eleven and one so far in
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Speaker 2: the playoffs and I have a feeling they're going to
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Speaker 2: finish off the Canadians tonight at home in Game number five,
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Speaker 2: and then next up for them will be the Las
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Speaker 2: Vegas Golden Knights in the Stanley Cup Final. Major League Baseball,
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Speaker 2: the Arizona Diamondbacks will be in town to take on
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Speaker 2: the Mariners. Both teams hot ish. Arizona's won ten of
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Speaker 2: their last eleven, but against some of the worst competition
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Speaker 2: that the sport will provide right now. Meanwhile, the Mariners
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Speaker 2: are coming off a sweep. They are a first place team.
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Speaker 2: They can get back to five hundred tonight with a victory.
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Speaker 2: Maybe they've got a little bit of that M word
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Speaker 2: that Ashley doesn't want to mention going for them right now.
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Speaker 2: We shall see, but they will start at home against
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Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks. It's George Kirby versus Zach Galman, a pair
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Speaker 2: of right handers. That's good news in the matchup tonight.
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Speaker 2: College base Tournament. Also, the field of sixty four begins
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Speaker 2: today in regional play. The closest region to US will
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Speaker 2: be in Eugene. Oregon's a part of it. Oregon State's
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Speaker 2: a part of it. Yale is a part of it.
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Speaker 2: I'd dreg in the Pacific Northwest, Yale and the Koogs
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Speaker 2: are a part of it. The Koogs will be in
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Speaker 2: action today at noon, taking on Oregon State in Eugene.
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Speaker 2: That feels weird. They'll play that game at noon, and
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Speaker 2: the Softball World Series elimination round today. Two teams will
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Speaker 2: be eliminated from the tournament today after yesterday's opening quadruple
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Speaker 2: header that was thrilling, including the game last night between
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Speaker 2: Nebraska and Arkansas, and Nebraska won five to three. All right,
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Speaker 2: those are your headlines, brought to you by Frost Brewed Corps.
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Speaker 2: Like let's talk some Seahawks football with our Seahawks insider
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Speaker 2: Greg Bell. Good morning, sir, Good morning. Ready for the weekend? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you to stay home for a change. Jet setter, globe trotter.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to be in the state. We're going to
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Speaker 1: go to the Brandy Carlisle concert at the Gorge tomorrow night.
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, the bells, bells do get after it.
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Speaker 2: I'll give you credit. I mean, I just get the
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Speaker 2: Friday and I'm like, can I have a nap in
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Speaker 2: some vodka? And the bells get after it?
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Speaker 1: The kids are home and yeah, activities for sure. My
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Speaker 1: wife's big Brandy Carlisle fan. So we're going to go
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Speaker 1: out there tomorrow night.
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's make Wendy happy. That's always a
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Speaker 2: good plan.
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Speaker 1: For the Yeah, that's my game plan. That's thirty years
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Speaker 1: I've done that and it's worked a little bit, I guess.
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's talk a little Seahawks football. I
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Speaker 2: mean we're at the end of the week of OTAs
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Speaker 2: and that, let's face it. I mean, they didn't even
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Speaker 2: open it up to the media, so, I mean, there
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Speaker 2: aren't a lot of juicy nuggets flying out of renting
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Speaker 2: right now. But we didn't get video of DeMarcus Lawrence
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Speaker 2: running out into the football field. There was a brief
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Speaker 2: period of time during this offseason where we thought maybe
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Speaker 2: he was considering retirement, and that has been yeared up. Correct.
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Speaker 1: Correct, He's on the field and yesterday, first time he's
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Speaker 1: joined the team. His priorities are in order. He's explained
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Speaker 1: to John Boyle with US dot Com team writer yesterday
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Speaker 1: that the reason he hasn't been around this offseason right
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Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl, his wife birth their sixth child.
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Speaker 1: I have two children, and I know how much my
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Speaker 1: wife needed help with that six children, including an infant,
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Speaker 1: and DeMarcus Lawrence says, I'm going to stay home and
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Speaker 1: be with my wife and be with her and help
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Speaker 1: raise now six children, one of them a newborn, and
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Speaker 1: that's why he wasn't here. So his priorities are for
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Speaker 1: sure in order. You know, he'll play. It appears his
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Speaker 1: thirteenth NFL season.
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Speaker 3: The supposition he might not come back came from the
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Speaker 3: fact he played his twelfth NFL seasons, first with Seattle
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Speaker 3: last year, and he finally won the Super Bowl, and
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Speaker 3: he's made over hundreds of millions of dollars.
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Speaker 1: It would seem like to go out on top and
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Speaker 1: why would you need to come back, But that's not
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Speaker 1: how he thinks. He wants to see if he can
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Speaker 1: do it again, and he recruited Dante Fowler Junior, a
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Speaker 1: veteran edge with background with the Cowboys from when he
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Speaker 1: was with eleven Lawrence was eleven years with the Cowboys
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Speaker 1: and recruited him to Seattle. He said, you want to
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Speaker 1: come win a Super Bowl, do what I did and
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Speaker 1: signed with the Seahawks, and that's what Fowler did. So
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Speaker 1: we'll see how this all shakes out with Fowler and
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Speaker 1: Lawrence and Leonard Williams all thirty two, thirty three, thirty
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Speaker 1: four years old, but the rotation is starting to take
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Speaker 1: shape of their edge rushers.
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Speaker 2: Do they feel like they have a hole because that
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Speaker 2: was has been discussed, I mean, losing mafe They didn't
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Speaker 2: really address it aggressively in the draft, so the conversation,
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Speaker 2: the narrative has been that maybe there's still a guy
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Speaker 2: even with the addition of Fowler, or does Fowler take
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Speaker 2: care of that from their perspective.
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Speaker 1: Well, for them the last couple of years, especially in
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Speaker 1: the McDonald since he came in for Carroll Boy, Mafey
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Speaker 1: hasn't been a true edge rusher and at times he
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Speaker 1: was getting replaced on passing downs. He was an early
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Speaker 1: down edge setting, run stopping and he wasn't always doing
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Speaker 1: that effectively either, But his effectiveness in the pass rush game,
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Speaker 1: I think has been overstated, and some of that might
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Speaker 1: be because Cincinnati paid twenty million dollars a year, which
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Speaker 1: blew everybody in the Seahawks building away.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you get a run stuffing you know,
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Speaker 2: Sam linebacker for twenty million dollars a year, So I
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Speaker 2: don't know what Cincinnati's seeing.
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Speaker 1: Well, they lost Hendrickson, so they were desperate for any
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Speaker 1: pass rusher and they took Mafey for that, and the
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Speaker 1: Seahawks were no waga to match that because of how
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Speaker 1: they use Emon Worry and because now Bud Clark is
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Speaker 1: in as a versatile he could stop the run and
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Speaker 1: come into the boxes of safety. McDonald, I don't has
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Speaker 1: a couple pieces that doesn't have to They don't have
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Speaker 1: to be true linebackers on the roster to play edge
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Speaker 1: linebacker ll I mean you mentioned Sam linebacker. That's basically
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Speaker 1: what Nick even Worri was for most of the time.
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Speaker 1: I have two thirds of the time last year. So
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Speaker 1: just because a depth chart doesn't have it has one
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Speaker 1: fewer outside linebacker and boy Mafey, that doesn't mean they're
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Speaker 1: a berift of options on the edge. Fowler will come
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Speaker 1: in and have probably third down responsibilities maybe thirty percent
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Speaker 1: of the snaps, they hope, but he's got options and
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Speaker 1: he wants more options to mix and match guys who
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Speaker 1: don't even show up with a depth chart as a
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Speaker 1: linebacker to play that role.
10:39
Speaker 2: Greg Bell is with us sar Siahawks Insider. You can
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Speaker 2: follow him, of course at g bel Seattle on x
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Speaker 2: and Thenewstribune dot com for complete coverage of the Seattle
10:47
Speaker 2: Seahawks all year long and joins us most days throughout
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Speaker 2: the year here at seven oh five to talk Seahawks
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Speaker 2: football because our audience just can't get enough of it.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Sam Darnold. We had Matt Hasselback on
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Speaker 2: earlier this week, and I asked him about, through his
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Speaker 2: own experience of when he had his breakthrough year where
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Speaker 2: he knew he belonged as not just a starter, but
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Speaker 2: he was one of the dudes in the National Football
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Speaker 2: League at quarterback, what kind of an off season experience
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Speaker 2: that was, and then tried to relate it to Sam Donald.
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Speaker 2: Would you fall on complacency at all or were you
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Speaker 2: hungrier to go after it even more? Well? I mean,
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Speaker 2: what I've seen of Sam Donald this offseason and we're
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Speaker 2: not following him around town. But you know, he got married,
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Speaker 2: he I think opened up a chicken restaurant, and so
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Speaker 2: I'm wondering, you know, should we have any fear that
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Speaker 2: Sam Donald, you know, had that breakthrough year and may
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Speaker 2: not be the focused warrior that we saw this past season.
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Speaker 3: Well that's the prototypical concern of every veteran player on
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Speaker 3: a Super.
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Speaker 1: Bowl champion, and in fact, that's what Mike McDonald's trying
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Speaker 1: to address. And he's uniquely messaging run forward, not back,
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Speaker 1: to try to push the process ahead even more and
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Speaker 1: see how good they can be. It's interesting you asked
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Speaker 1: this this week because Sam Donald.
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Speaker 3: Was on a podcast this week and he was asked
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Speaker 3: the same thing, and he said that he talked.
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Speaker 1: To a sports psychologist and worked with a sports psychologist
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Speaker 1: before his one season with Minnesota. So the year before
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Speaker 1: he signed with the Seahawks, and the sports psychologists like
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Speaker 1: Donald's career to a house, and he said, the first
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Speaker 1: five six years you spent building the foundations of your
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Speaker 1: house and the framing. And he said, now you've been
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Speaker 1: in the career, your career long enough and played for
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Speaker 1: this many teams and had limited success, but success. When
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Speaker 1: your dad started start painting, the house, start decorating, he
12:43
Speaker 1: start doing things to beauty it up and realize that
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Speaker 1: this is your home and you're not going anywhere. Did
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Speaker 1: you belong here? This is now your home. Move in
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Speaker 1: and he said mentally that was a breakthrough for him.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I belong in this league. I've done
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Speaker 1: well in this league, and yeah, I keep getting one
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Speaker 1: year here, years here, and I'm backup here. But in
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Speaker 1: my time i've started, I've done pretty well. And it
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Speaker 1: was after that year JJ McCarthy gets hurt as a rookie.
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Speaker 1: Year's training camp for the Vikings and Minnesota starts Sam Donald.
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Speaker 1: He goes fourteen and three throws for forty five hundred
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Speaker 1: yards and then he signs one hundred million dollars contract
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Speaker 1: with the Seahawks, and then the first year wins the
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl back to back Pro Bowl season since that
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Speaker 1: house building breakthrough with the sports psychologists, and it's the
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Speaker 1: first time Donald has mentioned this publicly and tell us
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Speaker 1: this last during the last season at all. So there
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Speaker 1: has been a breakthrough for him, and it came the
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Speaker 1: year before he arrived in Seattle. You're right about I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's the downfall of Super Bowl champions who some of
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Speaker 1: whom haven't made the playoffs in the last quarter century,
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Speaker 1: often traced too complacency, are getting fat and happy. The
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Speaker 1: difference here is in Donald's case and and others, the
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Speaker 1: Seahawks didn't get a run on new contracts and rich, happy,
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Speaker 1: fat guys and at their young their is still young.
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Speaker 1: Donald's still only twenty eight, and Jackson Smith and jig
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Speaker 1: With the reigning NFL Offensive Player of the Year is
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Speaker 1: twenty four. Devin Witherspoon is about to get minted as
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Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterback in the league this summer is
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Speaker 1: twenty five. So it's different than the Legion of Boom
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Speaker 1: coming back. Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman and Cam Chancellor
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Speaker 1: holding out and all those guys getting paid massive, massive
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Speaker 1: amounts of money. Now, of course Smith and Jigbin Witherspoon
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Speaker 1: will get get paid, but they him mid.
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Speaker 3: Twenty still, and Donald's not gotten repaid.
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Speaker 1: He's still in the middle of his contract, which is
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Speaker 1: now a value for Seattle based on quarterback salaries around
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Speaker 1: the league. So I don't I think it's a different
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Speaker 1: proposition because of how young the core is that'll be
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Speaker 1: in the seahawks favor this year.
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Speaker 3: I know that.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not getting greedy about this. I don't
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Speaker 2: need Sam Donald to be any better than he was
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Speaker 2: a year ago. That quarterback won a Super Bowl title,
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Speaker 2: had a couple of rough games along the way, but
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Speaker 2: obviously proved a lot of his, if not all of
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Speaker 2: his doubters wrong this past season. But I would ask
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Speaker 2: do they believe? Does the organization believe that he still
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Speaker 2: has a lot more upside that he could reach?
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Speaker 1: I think so.
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Speaker 3: And it's because he led the league in turnovers last year,
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Speaker 3: and if he cuts the turnovers even in half, his
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Speaker 3: efficiency should double.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just common sense. If you don't turn
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Speaker 1: the ball over, you got twice as many chances to
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Speaker 1: score if you've turned the ball over half as many times.
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Speaker 1: And it'll start there. And some of it is that
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Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak and Darnold pushed the ball down the field
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Speaker 1: and we're having success doing it. Some of them was
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Speaker 1: just his ball secure. How many times did we see
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Speaker 1: him just get hit and the knock the ball out
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Speaker 1: of his hands. The San Francisco game inside the ten
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Speaker 1: yard line and the opener they lost the ball, the
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay game where he got hit and the ball
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Speaker 1: was deflected for an interception in the final second final
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Speaker 1: minutes of that game to set up the Bucks winning
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Speaker 1: took the field goal. Just tighter with the ball would
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Speaker 1: be enough to limit his turnovers. But yeah, he wasn't
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Speaker 1: perfect last year. He got him to the Super Bowl, won
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But there's a lot he can improve upon,
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Speaker 1: and it starts with taking care of the ball, not
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Speaker 1: turning it over, and handing scoring opportunities the other team.
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Speaker 2: Greg belt our guest here on this Friday, as the
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Speaker 2: off season continues for the Seahawks and so OTA is
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Speaker 2: coming to a close. And then where do we go
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Speaker 2: with the schedule. What's the next thing to accomplish here
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Speaker 2: this offseason?
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Speaker 1: Well, there's two sets of three day OTAs. The first
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Speaker 1: set is this week ending today. The second set will
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Speaker 1: be next week over three days. It's about three practices
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Speaker 1: in four days, just like this week. And then June eight, nine,
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Speaker 1: and ten is the one mandatory event of the offseason,
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Speaker 1: the mini camp. And that's it. From June tenth until
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Speaker 1: around July twenty eighth or thirtieth or so, they're off.
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Speaker 1: And this is the most gone fishing out of the office.
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Speaker 1: Don't try to get a hold of me time in
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Speaker 1: the NFL calendar from mid the end of the veteran
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Speaker 1: mini camp until the start of training camp. So the
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Speaker 1: offseason came fast and ended quickly because of the Super
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Speaker 1: Bowl and everything else. In McDonald trying to give some
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Speaker 1: of the veterans a break, And yeah, they're just three
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Speaker 1: ota practices of mini camp away from being off until
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Speaker 1: training camp starts, and it's fifteen days before the veterans
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Speaker 1: can report no earlier than fifteen days before the first
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Speaker 1: training camp. That's by the CBA. First preseason game, excuse me,
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Speaker 1: that's by the CBA. The first preseason game is August
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Speaker 1: fifteenth for the Seahawks against Dallas, so on or about
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Speaker 1: July thirty thirty. First veterans are reporting.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald does it differently than Pete Carroll. He has
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Speaker 1: his rookies report a couple of days ahead of the veterans,
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Speaker 1: like a lot of teams do. So the rookies might
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Speaker 1: report around July twenty seventh or so.
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Speaker 2: When I first moved here, they were coming off the
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl loss. I don't need to provide any more
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Speaker 2: details for that, but I think for my first five
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Speaker 2: camps six camps, there was a holdout every single time.
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Speaker 2: How surprised would you be in the John Schneider, Mike
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Speaker 2: McDonald coming off a Super Bowl championship, How surprised would
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Speaker 2: you be if they ran into an unexpected holdout this
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Speaker 2: year at training camp.
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Speaker 1: I'd be shocked because it'd be counter to everything Mike
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Speaker 1: McDonald has built culture and locker room wise in the
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Speaker 1: two years. Everything has been about togetherness, unity of effort,
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Speaker 1: singular purpose, selflessness. If they have somebody do that, it
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Speaker 1: would be a whoa. I thought they were on this track,
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Speaker 1: and now they've got a guy on this track. He'd
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Speaker 1: be the outsider, the only one who's making who's gonna
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Speaker 1: in line for a big enough contract that it would
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Speaker 1: cause that he would even try to hold out because
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Speaker 1: there's a stick in the negotiation. Would be Devin Witherspoon. Yet,
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Speaker 1: Witherspoon has been here since day one of the voluntary
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Speaker 1: offseason training program in April, when McDonald told him, don't
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Speaker 1: blow it off, just do it remotely in zoom calls.
19:03
Speaker 1: We'll call you when we need you. And Wierston was
19:05
Speaker 1: there day one. He was there this week at the
19:07
Speaker 1: OTA is practicing in the rain. In May, he didn't
19:10
Speaker 1: look like a prima donna guy who was going to
19:12
Speaker 1: hold out in July. So yeah, that would be really
19:17
Speaker 1: counter to what McDonald has built, and it would shake
19:19
Speaker 1: McDonald frankly, because he thinks he's got these guys all
19:22
Speaker 1: bought in, and there's no reason that the guys shouldn't
19:25
Speaker 1: buy it. This guy just won him a super Bowl
19:26
Speaker 1: doing it his way. Why don't listen to this guy?
19:30
Speaker 1: That would be a rock to boat culture. He prides
19:34
Speaker 1: himself on his culture and he'd be pretty shook if
19:36
Speaker 1: that happened. Then I don't think it's going.
19:38
Speaker 2: Too And by the way, before we let you go,
19:40
Speaker 2: Ashley and I picked up what you were putting down.
19:42
Speaker 2: We heard, we knew. That was laced with a little
19:45
Speaker 2: bit of suggestion that there is a period of time
19:47
Speaker 2: coming up where nobody answers their phone and talks football
19:51
Speaker 2: and can't be bothered. So we get it, We get
19:54
Speaker 2: it very aloud and clear.
19:58
Speaker 1: Well, you know I'm not going anywhere. I'm hosting the
20:01
Speaker 1: show after yours, So yeah, I don't have a choice
20:07
Speaker 1: in this case. But yes, it is. It is striking though,
20:11
Speaker 1: And people say, why is the Winner's been deal done?
20:13
Speaker 1: It's because everyone's gone and they don't want to do
20:16
Speaker 1: any business until they get back. And that's often why
20:19
Speaker 1: contracts don't For the Seahawks, the big contracts get done
20:21
Speaker 1: the first days of training camp.
20:23
Speaker 2: All right, man, well what do you got on the
20:25
Speaker 2: show today?
20:26
Speaker 3: Gary Hill Junior, the Mariner's broadcaster, friend of our show,
20:29
Speaker 3: is on a lot. He's going to talk about the
20:31
Speaker 3: first place Mariners.
20:33
Speaker 1: What went right in Oakland? This platoon what do we
20:37
Speaker 1: call it?
20:37
Speaker 2: Piggyback?
20:38
Speaker 1: I guess we still call it. It's going to be Sunday,
20:40
Speaker 1: the next iteration, O boy, Yes, Miller and Luis Castiel.
20:44
Speaker 1: It can slam stuff around on the dugout bench Agin
20:46
Speaker 1: on Sunday and we'll talk about that at eleven and
20:49
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it. Chris is I just defer to
20:51
Speaker 1: Chris on NBA playoff talk because he loves the sports
20:54
Speaker 1: so much. I don't like it nearly as much at
20:56
Speaker 1: all actually compared to what he does. So we'll talk
20:59
Speaker 1: about the NBA Finals. Looks like Nix and maybe Thunder
21:03
Speaker 1: Game seven for what.
21:04
Speaker 2: Yeah game Saturday night, Yeah, heyday night. Wemby's going to
21:08
Speaker 2: be there.
21:09
Speaker 1: So I want the Floppers to win so that the
21:12
Speaker 1: Knicks mopped them up in the finals. That's a more
21:15
Speaker 1: Seattle finish, all right. Uh, well, we'll unwatchable, aren't they try?
21:21
Speaker 1: When I try to watch it, my son, it's like
21:24
Speaker 1: these phantom It looked like, say gildess Inter got hit
21:28
Speaker 1: by a truck. He was rolling around the floor last night.
21:30
Speaker 1: He did even get hit. Yeah, almost unwatchable.
21:34
Speaker 2: I guess. Michael Wilbon brought that up yesterday on the
21:37
Speaker 2: show and Jay Williams was so angry he walked off
21:39
Speaker 2: the set and yet whatever. All right, Greg, Well we'll
21:45
Speaker 2: be listening at ten and we'll see. Uh, we'll cross
21:47
Speaker 2: paths later on today.
21:49
Speaker 1: All right, thanks, that'd be Friday, all.
21:51
Speaker 2: Right, Greg bell our Seahawks Insider again on back on
21:54
Speaker 2: our airwaves from ten to noon with Christopher Kid here
21:58
Speaker 2: at kJ R. Well, he brought up the magic word. Obviously,
22:03
Speaker 2: we're not beating a dead horse when the horse is
22:07
Speaker 2: very much alive and running around the track. So yes,
22:11
Speaker 2: I am going to talk about the piggyback again because
22:15
Speaker 2: we're going to experience round three on Sundays. We'll talk
22:18
Speaker 2: about that next Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
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Speaker 2: R F M j R FM. All right, it's Chuck
22:36
Speaker 2: Powell and it is Ashley Ryan with you here on
22:39
Speaker 2: this Friday. I'm just gonna pull the band aid off
22:42
Speaker 2: because I'm not even gonna soft paul this. I'm not
22:45
Speaker 2: gonna soft play it. Oh, piggyback, piggyback, piggyback.
22:52
Speaker 4: I was not prepared for that.
22:54
Speaker 2: I just saw somebody and just a random person. And again,
22:57
Speaker 2: I don't give too much credit to just a random person.
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Speaker 4: I don't give a crap about random people, that's right.
23:03
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no. I try not to give
23:06
Speaker 2: too much credit to just some random thought. And I'm
23:08
Speaker 2: sure the person was being joking, like tongue in cheek,
23:12
Speaker 2: but like, really more piggyback softy, isn't that? Isn't that
23:17
Speaker 2: conversation over?
23:18
Speaker 1: Uh?
23:19
Speaker 2: And the answer to.
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Speaker 4: That is no, no, how would it be over?
23:22
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean we're, like I said, going into the
23:25
Speaker 2: last break, you can't beat a dead horse when the
23:28
Speaker 2: horse is not being beaten and it's.
23:30
Speaker 4: Alive, right and trotting around.
23:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's running running around the track,
23:35
Speaker 2: it's getting ready for another lap.
23:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw it do one of those little jumpy things.
23:40
Speaker 1: Right.
23:41
Speaker 2: So no, I'm feeding a really alive, horse quite healthy.
23:47
Speaker 2: So we're getting ready for another round of piggybacking with
23:50
Speaker 2: the Mariners and it will be Miller and Castillo again,
23:54
Speaker 2: and it's back to Miller starting and then handing it
23:57
Speaker 2: off to Castillo. We have, of course, since from what
24:00
Speaker 2: we are to understand, Jerry and Justin got involved to
24:05
Speaker 2: make sure that both parties understand exactly what we're doing,
24:10
Speaker 2: why we're doing it, how we're going to continue doing
24:13
Speaker 2: it going forward, and there is hopefully an end game
24:17
Speaker 2: to it, but right now there's not an ideal solution.
24:20
Speaker 2: That's a quote from Jerry Depoto. And they feel this
24:23
Speaker 2: is the best way to keep both guys stretched out
24:26
Speaker 2: in case they need them to be a starting pitcher
24:28
Speaker 2: at some point later on in the season and you
24:30
Speaker 2: often do need more than five starters during the course
24:34
Speaker 2: of a regular season. And they also believe it can
24:37
Speaker 2: be an effective tool toward giving the bullpen mostly a
24:41
Speaker 2: night off. And Bryce Miller and Luis Castillo have both
24:45
Speaker 2: pitched really well in their two attempts at the piggyback.
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's the thing is you can't argue with
24:50
Speaker 5: how well it went last time. You can be annoyed
24:53
Speaker 5: that the guys were annoyed, and that Causetiodn't was angry
24:56
Speaker 5: and didn't want to come out, and Bryce is uncomfortable.
24:58
Speaker 5: I get all of that, and you know, I understand
25:01
Speaker 5: how it's uncomfortable, especially when we hear about routines and
25:04
Speaker 5: all the things that these guys you know, are kind
25:07
Speaker 5: of slaves to. This would be one hundred percent uncomfortable,
25:10
Speaker 5: but you cannot argue the fact that it has worked.
25:12
Speaker 5: It has accomplished the things it's set out to accomplish.
25:15
Speaker 5: They're pitching, well, the bullpen got a full day of rest.
25:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we went one in one, which is actually
25:20
Speaker 2: a better pace than we're on overall. Yeah, by one.
25:24
Speaker 2: You know, we're a game under five hundred right now.
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Speaker 5: Your offense does a little bit more in game one
25:28
Speaker 5: and you're two and zero with the piggyback.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Miller and Castillo combined and seventeen innings via the
25:33
Speaker 2: piggyback have a two point one two er, and that
25:37
Speaker 2: is better than either of them individually. It's a third
25:40
Speaker 2: of Luis Castillo's era when he's not piggybacking. So, yes,
25:45
Speaker 2: we've discussed this at great length about how we don't
25:49
Speaker 2: think on this show that it has been the disaster
25:51
Speaker 2: that so many people are trying to paint it as,
25:55
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of good things have come
25:56
Speaker 2: out of it, and a couple of things have been
25:59
Speaker 2: rough and hopefully have been dealt with, and it'll be
26:02
Speaker 2: smoother this go round against the Diamondbacks on Sunday. But
26:08
Speaker 2: it's not a long term solution, no doubt about it.
26:12
Speaker 2: Ryan Healy was on with Us Tuesday, now a Mariner's
26:15
Speaker 2: television broadcaster and our weekly guest, and I asked the
26:18
Speaker 2: former Mariner how he would proceed with the piggyback.
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Speaker 6: I don't think there's been enough to relegate one to
26:26
Speaker 6: the bullpen. Quite frankly, I feel like both piggybacks have
26:29
Speaker 6: been successful from the pitching side. What went wrong, in
26:33
Speaker 6: my opinion, is that the plan can change based off
26:37
Speaker 6: of what the game is showing you, amen, and I
26:39
Speaker 6: do believe that there can be some slight alterations to
26:43
Speaker 6: that of Hey, Luis, maybe you're not going to pitch
26:45
Speaker 6: the ninth inning today because our offense only decided to
26:47
Speaker 6: get one hit and score one run on a fielder's choice,
26:50
Speaker 6: and we're gonna we're gonna bring in our closer here,
26:52
Speaker 6: because this one nothing game matters a lot.
26:53
Speaker 2: And I'm not a manager. I'm not a big league manager.
26:55
Speaker 2: That's a tough job.
26:56
Speaker 6: But that was the first piggyback, and of course that's
26:59
Speaker 6: the situation that they were thrown in as a coaching staff.
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Speaker 6: That's tough, and I hope that that's a learning lesson
27:04
Speaker 6: that they make adjustments moving forward. But I have seen
27:07
Speaker 6: the piggyback be successful in the two opportunities they've had
27:10
Speaker 6: so far from the pitching side, and it's a lot
27:13
Speaker 6: easier to stomach this process when the offense does what
27:16
Speaker 6: it does last night and scores a lot of runs
27:19
Speaker 6: and gives the pitching staff and coaching staffs and breathing rooms.
27:22
Speaker 2: So let's make sure the.
27:25
Speaker 6: The challenge here or I don't even want to say
27:27
Speaker 6: the blame, but the you know, the workload is shared
27:29
Speaker 6: amongst the roster, not just the two guys that are
27:31
Speaker 6: in uncomfortable situations right now.
27:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, right. And I don't agree on everything that we
27:36
Speaker 2: discuss at Tuesday, but man, I'm with him on this,
27:38
Speaker 2: and of course we talked about it before we even
27:40
Speaker 2: had him on, and I don't think he listens to
27:43
Speaker 2: the show Yeah, so for him to kind of just
27:47
Speaker 2: parrot the points that at both Ashley and I were
27:51
Speaker 2: making about the piggyback, I mean that does I mean
27:56
Speaker 2: you do like to hear people you respect and smart
27:59
Speaker 2: guys and people that be in the league and then
28:01
Speaker 2: they pretty much say the exact same thing you've been saying. Yeah,
28:04
Speaker 2: it does kind of bolster your opinions on it. And so, yeah,
28:08
Speaker 2: I obviously agree with Ryan's take on this situation. I
28:12
Speaker 2: think it's been more successful than it's been unsuccessful, which
28:16
Speaker 2: I find hilarious that there are so many people out
28:19
Speaker 2: there that think it's been an absolute disaster. Well, and
28:22
Speaker 2: I don't even know where you're I don't even know
28:24
Speaker 2: what ground you have.
28:24
Speaker 5: To stand on, because that's the thing is, there is
28:26
Speaker 5: no ground to stand on with it. It's just the annoyance
28:29
Speaker 5: of the situation. And then seeing the anger and the
28:32
Speaker 5: annoyance from Miller and Castillo, they're like, well, this isn't working,
28:35
Speaker 5: and can't actually look at the fact that, yeah, sorry,
28:38
Speaker 5: it is. It's not a permanent solution, No way is
28:40
Speaker 5: it a permanent solution. But for right now, Yeah, when
28:43
Speaker 5: you have a long season ahead of you and you've
28:45
Speaker 5: got there's undoubtedly going to be situations where somebody could
28:50
Speaker 5: get injured. I mean that happens a lot, and you
28:53
Speaker 5: might need both those guys to be there ready to go.
28:56
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know.
28:58
Speaker 2: I think it's just flat out hit critical to sit
29:01
Speaker 2: there and say, look, you've angered poor Luis, and yet
29:05
Speaker 2: your solution is to go put him in the bullpen.
29:08
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe that's not. Maybe no, but it is.
29:11
Speaker 5: And they're saying, but it's not about it's not about
29:13
Speaker 5: hurting people's feelings.
29:14
Speaker 4: It's not about feelings. This isn't personal blah blah blah.
29:17
Speaker 5: But then yeah, their counter argument is that Louise is
29:19
Speaker 5: angry and Bryce is uncomfortable.
29:20
Speaker 2: Right, So if it's not about personal feelings, then why
29:24
Speaker 2: are you worried about a fit? I don't even mind
29:26
Speaker 2: the fit.
29:26
Speaker 4: No, I didn't either.
29:27
Speaker 2: I get why Luise is angry about that. I was
29:30
Speaker 2: pitching my best game of the entire year when Bryce
29:34
Speaker 2: was pitching well in front of me. You kept him
29:36
Speaker 2: in for longer than you were supposed to. You're starting
29:40
Speaker 2: pitchers still care about wins. I know the analytical community
29:43
Speaker 2: does not care about wins anymore, but starting pitchers still
29:48
Speaker 2: want that win. So I liked the fire that I
29:51
Speaker 2: saw from him, and I like the fact that, finally,
29:54
Speaker 2: I don't like the fact that they didn't have a
29:56
Speaker 2: better understanding, both he and Bryce, But I do you
30:00
Speaker 2: like the fact that they have a better understanding going forward.
30:03
Speaker 2: And I think it's worth another try, and I think
30:06
Speaker 2: that the merits of it thus far have outweighed the
30:11
Speaker 2: detriment that we've experienced through the first two piggyback experiences,
30:16
Speaker 2: and so we get ready for number three. Now long term.
30:20
Speaker 2: I heard Brett Boone on with the guys last night,
30:23
Speaker 2: and I think he's right. I think long term you
30:25
Speaker 2: do have to say eventually, and maybe not that far
30:29
Speaker 2: into the distant future, like we just got to go
30:31
Speaker 2: with our best guy, and I don't want to do
30:35
Speaker 2: this much longer to Bryce. I think Luis Castillo has
30:40
Speaker 2: earned this doubt. This doubt in Luis Castillo dates all
30:44
Speaker 2: the way back to last season when we got to
30:46
Speaker 2: the playoffs and they had plenty of opportunities to throw
30:49
Speaker 2: him in pivotal games in the playoffs and decided not to.
30:53
Speaker 2: So this doubt in Luis and him being one of
30:56
Speaker 2: our best five starting pitchers has been a live for
31:00
Speaker 2: a while now, and so he's been our worst starting
31:05
Speaker 2: pitcher this year, and he's looked better in the piggyback, Yeah,
31:08
Speaker 2: for sure, and yet he's still he's earned being doubted
31:15
Speaker 2: as one of our best five starters. To me, Bryce
31:18
Speaker 2: has done nothing since he came off the injury list,
31:21
Speaker 2: but mow fools down and I don't want to put
31:25
Speaker 2: shackles on Bryce going forward. I think Bryce is one
31:29
Speaker 2: of our three best starting pitchers. He might be our best.
31:32
Speaker 2: And I know that's now. That seems like a crazy statement.
31:36
Speaker 2: He was our best at the end of last year.
31:38
Speaker 2: He might be our best starting pitcher. I wouldn't I
31:42
Speaker 2: wouldn't go to the bank with that, but I don't
31:45
Speaker 2: eliminate him from the conversation. And so as he's coming
31:49
Speaker 2: off the injury and he was supposed to be building
31:53
Speaker 2: up his strength and now the piggyback has kind of
31:57
Speaker 2: kept him from adding to his pitch count going forward,
32:02
Speaker 2: I don't want to continue to do that to him,
32:04
Speaker 2: especially if he continues to dominate opponents. So I do
32:08
Speaker 2: think I agree with Brett. He's the better pitcher and
32:12
Speaker 2: he needs to be pitching every five days for the Mariners.
32:16
Speaker 2: So maybe this is just one more time through the rotation,
32:19
Speaker 2: and you do have to make a decision. But for
32:22
Speaker 2: right now, I have no problem doing it again and
32:26
Speaker 2: then seeing if we really can perfect it. Yeah, if
32:29
Speaker 2: we really can't, If we get another we do another. Yeah,
32:33
Speaker 2: five innings for Bryce, four innings for Luis, we win,
32:37
Speaker 2: we save the bullpen for another round. All of a sudden,
32:40
Speaker 2: it's looking like a really good idea.
32:42
Speaker 5: You're gonna have a hard time convincing the Mariners. It's
32:45
Speaker 5: not a good idea that happens, that's for sure.
32:47
Speaker 2: Or if it's a one nothing, two nothing game, two
32:50
Speaker 2: to one game and Bryce goes five and Luis goes three,
32:54
Speaker 2: and then we go to Munnos in the ninth and
32:56
Speaker 2: close it out like you're supposed to do, then again,
33:00
Speaker 2: we've ironed out the wrinkles on this dress and can't
33:03
Speaker 2: wait to wear the dress again.
33:04
Speaker 4: Yeah.
33:04
Speaker 2: Okay, so it is. It's still an ongoing story because
33:09
Speaker 2: we're still doing it, and I think it's been better
33:12
Speaker 2: than it has been bad, and I'm interested in seeing
33:17
Speaker 2: the results on Sunday and where we go from here.
33:20
Speaker 2: But I do agree with Brett. I think ultimately you
33:22
Speaker 2: do have to make the decision we just got to
33:24
Speaker 2: go with the best guy right now. We got to
33:26
Speaker 2: go with the best five guys. That's what we got
33:27
Speaker 2: to do. Whether that's one more turn through the piggyback,
33:31
Speaker 2: two more turns, or maybe this is the last one
33:34
Speaker 2: we shall see, but right now we piggyback.
33:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I am glad we're doing it.
33:43
Speaker 5: I'd be actually annoyed if after two and the second
33:46
Speaker 5: one being as successful as it was, if they were like,
33:48
Speaker 5: all right, we're done. Because the guys are annoyed, I'm like,
33:50
Speaker 5: wait a minute, then, what's your plan and what was
33:53
Speaker 5: the point of the first two times?
33:54
Speaker 4: If we didn't actually glean anything from it?
33:58
Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk more out the Mariners coming up
34:01
Speaker 2: on the show. We got ABC's of the Ms today
34:03
Speaker 2: at nine thirty, and of course the O Show every
34:05
Speaker 2: Friday at eight o'clock coming up next. Though it's been
34:09
Speaker 2: a big time topic and reckless at breakfast, I've been
34:12
Speaker 2: called an idiot h for my thoughts on it, and
34:15
Speaker 2: yet we have new information that I feel compelled to
34:19
Speaker 2: share about the new NBA lottery. Next Sports Radio ninety
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Speaker 2: for the weekend. We provide a service, is what we do,
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34:33
Speaker 2: every Friday right here on Chuck and Buck in the mornings.
34:36
Speaker 2: Reckless at Breakfast usually happens at seven forty five Wednesdays,
34:39
Speaker 2: and that's my opportunity to get crazy with stuff. And
34:42
Speaker 2: then I love it when my crazy stuff that I
34:44
Speaker 2: get called crazy for actually comes together. And I'm not
34:48
Speaker 2: saying that that's necessarily the case here, but certainly with
34:51
Speaker 2: Reckless at Breakfast. We've had many conversations about what the
34:54
Speaker 2: NBA should do with its lottery process, with its tanking process,
34:59
Speaker 2: and and they have decided to try to fix both
35:02
Speaker 2: of those issues here in one fell swoop. The NBA
35:07
Speaker 2: has not just introduced, but they have accepted that the
35:11
Speaker 2: lottery is going to change, and it's going to change dramatically.
35:16
Speaker 2: I'll just give you the information. At first, it's going
35:18
Speaker 2: to be a three two one lottery. So used to
35:21
Speaker 2: be like you'd have four thousand ping pong balls and
35:24
Speaker 2: then you'd have twenty two hundred would go to another team,
35:27
Speaker 2: they might have a percentage. Well, they're going back to
35:29
Speaker 2: just like Nope, that team gets three, that team gets two,
35:33
Speaker 2: and that team only gets one. And what's kind of
35:36
Speaker 2: crazy about it is the team that gets three is
35:39
Speaker 2: not going to be one of the worst teams in
35:42
Speaker 2: the league. Of the teams that finish with the three
35:46
Speaker 2: worst records are only going to get two ping pong
35:48
Speaker 2: balls out of it. And the idea behind it is,
35:51
Speaker 2: don't think that you're going to lose on purpose and
35:53
Speaker 2: gain some sort of advantage. So that's the tanking process
35:57
Speaker 2: that they're going with, and then their next group will
36:00
Speaker 2: get the three ping pong balls, and then they've expanded
36:04
Speaker 2: it to sixteen teams now, and so there will be
36:08
Speaker 2: a group of teams that will only get one ping
36:10
Speaker 2: pong ball in the hopper, and then they will pick
36:13
Speaker 2: out the four and it goes from there. So that's
36:17
Speaker 2: one of the things. There's another big aspect of this
36:20
Speaker 2: that they are no longer gonna let teams that's ended
36:23
Speaker 2: up with a top three pick one year get another
36:26
Speaker 2: top three pick the following year. And so, for example,
36:31
Speaker 2: the Memphis Grizzlies got a top three pick, celebrated it, right,
36:35
Speaker 2: This is a moment of celebration, and instead, here is
36:40
Speaker 2: a team that has both their pick, they're gonna be
36:43
Speaker 2: bad this year, and U toss pick next year, who
36:46
Speaker 2: are probably gonna be bad again this next year. And
36:49
Speaker 2: they were thinking to themselves, man, we could end up
36:51
Speaker 2: with two top three picks next year. Well, they got
36:55
Speaker 2: the number three pick this season, so they can't get
36:58
Speaker 2: even in the top five next year because of that.
37:02
Speaker 2: The highest that they're going to be able to get
37:04
Speaker 2: with those two picks is sixth, then seventh, if I'm
37:06
Speaker 2: understanding it correctly. Okay, that is a major change. So
37:10
Speaker 2: the two things, and now I'm going to rest it
37:14
Speaker 2: against the pillar that I've been standing upon about I
37:20
Speaker 2: think the NBA lottery is rigged. On one hand, I
37:26
Speaker 2: think this makes it a lot easier to rig the lottery.
37:29
Speaker 2: This process. I mean, now if you thought it was
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Speaker 2: easy before, I mean, this looks like is. This looks
37:35
Speaker 2: like child's play. I think that my you know, nephews
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Speaker 2: and nieces could rig the lottery with you know, that
37:43
Speaker 2: few ping pong balls in there. But on the other hand,
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Speaker 2: one of my big arguments has been, it's not just
37:50
Speaker 2: about the wimbin yamas. Well, actually it's all about the
37:54
Speaker 2: womb yamas. When a team gets a Wimbin Yama or
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Speaker 2: a team gets a Lebron James. It's not just about
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Speaker 2: the number one pick. That's what I should say. Yeah, one,
38:04
Speaker 2: they want to surround those players with as much talent
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Speaker 2: now as soon as possible. So I think they rigged.
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Speaker 2: I personally think, and I know I can't prove it.
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Speaker 2: The San Antonio had the lottery rig for them three
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Speaker 2: times for Women Yama and then to put support around
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Speaker 2: Women Yama because they won the lottery. In essence, three
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Speaker 2: years in a row, they got the fourth pick and
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Speaker 2: then the second pick, and they pull out out of
38:29
Speaker 2: the ping pong ball that the top four picks, all right,
38:32
Speaker 2: So they suddenly had Castle and Harper to go with
38:38
Speaker 2: Women Yama. Now they're set. Now we don't have to worry.
38:41
Speaker 2: They're never going to miss the playoffs. Right, This group
38:45
Speaker 2: is going to be in the playoffs every year. So
38:46
Speaker 2: now we don't have to worry about them when we
38:48
Speaker 2: can move on try to fix some other franchise. So
38:51
Speaker 2: I've just always felt it's been about the occasional, like
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Speaker 2: transcendent player, and then it's not enough to just give
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Speaker 2: them a number one pick. We got to get that
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Speaker 2: guy on television as often as possible, So we got
39:03
Speaker 2: to support him, and the best way to do that
39:05
Speaker 2: is riginal lottery again for the next year. Well now
39:09
Speaker 2: they're doing the you can't get a lottery pick in
39:14
Speaker 2: back to back years anymore, so that kind of flies
39:17
Speaker 2: in the face of my argument. So definitely an interesting day,
39:23
Speaker 2: certainly a lot to discuss. I know people are tired
39:26
Speaker 2: of me talking about the NBA lottery, so I'm not
39:28
Speaker 2: going to discuss it much further. But no doubt this
39:33
Speaker 2: is a really big step forward toward trying to change
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Speaker 2: lottery reform, giving us lottery reform, and also trying to
39:42
Speaker 2: curb they'll never fix it, but curb the tanking issue.
39:45
Speaker 2: Now teams are just going to strategically try to finish
39:48
Speaker 2: with the fourth, seventh to tenth worst records right in
39:51
Speaker 2: the NBA. But at least we are no longer just
39:56
Speaker 2: rewarding teams that are losing on purpose in professional sports,
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Speaker 2: because that to me is as cardinal as sin as
40:05
Speaker 2: you could hit.
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Speaker 4: As you can get and that and that's been their
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Speaker 4: biggest issue.
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Speaker 5: So at least they're doing something about it, and they're
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Speaker 5: doing something about it quickly, and then they're gonna they
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Speaker 5: said they're going to show it live right on television.
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Speaker 4: The whole thing will be live. That which I'm like, well,
40:19
Speaker 4: how live will it really be?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, you know who else did live shows? Lance Burton,
40:24
Speaker 2: David Copperfield.
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Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking, Like, what magic could they spin?
40:28
Speaker 2: David Blaine. Yeah, so, I mean a lot of people
40:31
Speaker 2: have done live shows right in front of your face.
40:33
Speaker 2: I can't believe he made the Statue of Liberty disappear.
40:37
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're suspicious of it at all, I don't
40:40
Speaker 5: think they're doing a lot to get rid of your suspicions.
40:44
Speaker 5: But that it will be that that supporting cast, that'll be,
40:48
Speaker 5: that'll be different.
40:49
Speaker 2: Hey, look, if you want to rig the lottery, I
40:51
Speaker 2: kind of get why you do want to do it. Yeah,
40:53
Speaker 2: I just want you to admit it.
40:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, just tell us.
40:58
Speaker 2: And I do think tanking to be addressed. And this
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Speaker 2: is this is an effort. This is a really I mean,
41:05
Speaker 2: this is an outside the box idea, and it is
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Speaker 2: a it's a big effort toward trying to get teams
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Speaker 2: to stop losing on purpose, because I don't think that
41:14
Speaker 2: benefits the league whatsoever. Also, I started the show talking
41:18
Speaker 2: about Major League Baseball and their contract negotiation that they
41:24
Speaker 2: started yesterday as they try to get a new collective
41:26
Speaker 2: bargaining agreement before the start of next season. And of
41:29
Speaker 2: course the big sticking point is going to be the
41:31
Speaker 2: MLB salary cap. So we've got sup with You coming
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