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Bonus Episode: Steve Earle's Mandolin, Model Punks, and 90s New York Movies · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks for checking out this bonus episode. Before
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Speaker 1: we get into it, I wanted to fill you in
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Speaker 1: on all the great content we've got for you this
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Speaker 1: week here in Disgraceland. We have a brand new episode
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Speaker 1: on Surge Gainsburg. Over in the Badlands Feed. Check out
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Speaker 1: a new episode on NBA star lorenzen Wright and that's
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Speaker 1: on the Sportsland side of the Badlands tracks. And over
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Speaker 1: in the feed for our new show for kids in families,
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Speaker 1: Music Lands Stories, we have a brand new episode, episode six,
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Speaker 1: that is ready for you to check out. All right,
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Speaker 1: let's get into it, hey, discos. Need a little more
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Speaker 1: Disgraceland in your life, just to touch to get you through. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: me too. This is the podcast that comes after the podcast.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Disgraceland. The after Partie. Welcome to the Disgraceland
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Speaker 1: bonus episode. A little thing we like to call the
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Speaker 1: after party. This is the show after the show, the
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Speaker 1: party after the party, the bridge to get you from
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Speaker 1: one full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard
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Speaker 1: to dig into the dirt. On this episode, we are
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Speaker 1: talking about, among other things, Surge Gainsburg, Madonna, and of
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Speaker 1: course your voicemails. Texts, dms and more and as always,
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of rosa. All right, just goes. Let's
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Speaker 1: get into it this week in Disgraceland. Come with me, Come, come, come, come,
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Speaker 1: as we travel over to Paris, France in the late
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, when Serge Gainsburg, the enfant today be sawday
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Speaker 1: say that tea b How do you say terrible in French?
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Speaker 1: The bad guy, the bad the bad boy a friend. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's not what they called him. That's what I'm calling
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Speaker 1: them here because I'm kind of brain dead right now.
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Speaker 1: I've been writing all day and I can't think of
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Speaker 1: anything clever to say about Serge Gainsburg. But Serge Gainsburg
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Speaker 1: a very clever dude on his own. Okay, Serge Gainsburg,
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Speaker 1: great songwriter, but you know, a lot of controversy carried
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Speaker 1: out a very illicit and very passionate love affair with
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Speaker 1: Bridget Bardeux, who at the time was the pre eminent
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Speaker 1: sex symbol in the world on the planet. Together, Surge
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Speaker 1: and Bridget made great fucking music, as we like to say,
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Speaker 1: some of the strangest music too. It sounds like still
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Speaker 1: to this day, it sounds like it came from Another Galaxy,
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Speaker 1: one of their duets, their classic duet Bonnie and Clyde
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Speaker 1: Amazing Song. It's a song, of course, inspired by the
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Speaker 1: infamous American Outlaws back during the Great Depression, just like
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Speaker 1: Surge and Bridget or Bridgitte were outlaws decades later. What's
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Speaker 1: really fun about this episode from our perspective is that
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Speaker 1: we use this song, and we use this duet from
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Speaker 1: Serge Gainsberg and Bridget Bardeaux and their whole Forbidden Love
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Speaker 1: affair to tell the story of the real life Bonnie
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Speaker 1: and Clyde. So it's kind of like you're getting two
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Speaker 1: stories in one. It's kind of the same setup as
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Speaker 1: we did the Derek and the Dominoes Eric Clapton episode.
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Speaker 1: This one, though, it's got a lot more in it.
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Speaker 1: If I'm being honest, Romance Lust, true Crime, Notorious Outlaws,
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Speaker 1: Doomed Lovers. You don't have to be a fan of
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Speaker 1: Serge Gainsburg to get into this episode, but you will
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Speaker 1: be a fan of Serge Gainsburg afterward if you give
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Speaker 1: his music a shot, if you've never heard of him,
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Speaker 1: if you're like, who the hell is this guy? I
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Speaker 1: don't give a shit about French pop stars. French crooners,
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter, you're gonna get into this guy. Hugely influential
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Speaker 1: on American music as well, especially American indie music, alternative music.
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Speaker 1: If you like Beck, Beck was massively influenced by Serge Gainsburg,
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Speaker 1: particularly the Great Bech record See Change. That record is
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Speaker 1: just very very directly influenced by Serge Gainsburg's album History
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Speaker 1: Dat Melody Nelson. You listen to both these records back
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Speaker 1: to back and you can really hear what I'm talking about. So,
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Speaker 1: if you've never heard Serge Gainsburg, like I said, check
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Speaker 1: them out and let me know what you think. Six
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Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six six six three eight. If
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Speaker 1: you have heard Surge Gainsburg, hit me up six one
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Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six three eight and let
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Speaker 1: me know what your favorite Surge music is. There's a
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Speaker 1: lot of different phases. The early stuff is much different
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Speaker 1: than the mid period stuff, which is much different from
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Speaker 1: the later stuff. He had a long, long, long career,
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Speaker 1: And you know, if you just want to let me
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Speaker 1: know what you thought of this episode creatively, the swing,
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Speaker 1: we took at it, how we went at it, Get
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Speaker 1: at me okay six one seven nine oh six six
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Speaker 1: six three eight, let's talk about it. This Surge Gainsburg episode.
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Speaker 1: It marks the start of our new episodes for twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four. We've got a bunch of new stuff coming
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Speaker 1: your way over the coming month, lots from the from
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Speaker 1: the world of music. And then after that in February,
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Speaker 1: we're going to start to broaden our scope here in
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Speaker 1: the Disgrace LAMD feed like we've been discussing. I'll have
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Speaker 1: more on that soon, but before that, before all that, tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: we've got Rewind, what we're calling our Rewind release from
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Speaker 1: our archive on Madonna. Just to put it in your
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Speaker 1: head what we're doing here. If you're looking at the feed,
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Speaker 1: and I know there's been a lot of turmoil over
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Speaker 1: the feed in the last year, I think what's gonna
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Speaker 1: happen this year? The way we're gonna roll it out
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Speaker 1: every week, Tuesday's full episode, Thursdays bonus episode like we're doing,
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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep doing on Fridays these rewind episodes. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna keep bringing back episodes from the archive. Because here's
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Speaker 1: what's happening. Not only are there a lot of new
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Speaker 1: listeners who have no idea what's in the archive, I'm
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Speaker 1: talking to some of you guys on Instagram, some of
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Speaker 1: you guys on X and it's dawning on me that
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Speaker 1: even newer new Ish listeners, like from the last year,
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Speaker 1: who didn't start with us way way way back in
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Speaker 1: the beginning, like a lot of you guys did, you're
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Speaker 1: asking me for episodes that we've already produced. People are
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Speaker 1: asking me for Guns N' Roses episodes, Johnny Cash episode.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember the last one I did, and I'm like, hey,
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Speaker 1: we did that. It's there, it's available, it's ready for
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Speaker 1: So I think we're going to start, you know, we're
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Speaker 1: going to continue, I should say, releasing these archive rewind
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Speaker 1: episodes on Fridays, bubbling them back up in your feed
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Speaker 1: so you got them there. If you heard them before,
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Speaker 1: you can re listen to them. Okay, this isn't a
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Speaker 1: chat podcast, obviously, this is a scripted, heavily sound designed,
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Speaker 1: and dramatic type of show. So you can re listen
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Speaker 1: to these, but that's not the point. We're just trying
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Speaker 1: to get the folks who are new or new Ish
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Speaker 1: to hear all the one hundred and thirty plus full
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Speaker 1: episodes that we've created. So many and I realized over
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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, I got to do a
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Speaker 1: better job of resurfacing those so that I can bring
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Speaker 1: everybody back into the archive. So that's what we'll be doing.
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Speaker 1: Tuesdays full episodes, Thursdays bonus episodes. Fridays, we're going to
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Speaker 1: stay on this rewind episode train. All right, there you
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Speaker 1: go this Friday. Madonna one of my favorite artists of
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Speaker 1: all time. That's right, I said it. Madonna. Okay, love her,
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Speaker 1: love her. And when I say her, I'm talking about eighties,
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Speaker 1: nineties Madonna. Okay, I didn't go, you know, two thousands.
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Speaker 1: I was. I was out out and I'm kind of
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Speaker 1: out now, I guess. But for a period of time, Madonna,
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Speaker 1: like most young men my age at the time, captivated
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Speaker 1: my imagination. I should say. We'll leave it at that
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Speaker 1: borderline too. Who one of my favorite songs, You guys
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Speaker 1: know the six one seven nine oh six, six six
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Speaker 1: three eight, Your favorite era Madonna. Let me know your
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Speaker 1: favorite Madonna tune, your favorite Madonna video, let me know. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I want to hear. I want to hear from you guys.
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Speaker 1: Quick story on Madonna. I don't know if this is true.
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Speaker 1: I like to believe it's true. It was told to
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Speaker 1: me by multiple people. I'm sure there are are some
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Speaker 1: of you out there from the from the hardcore scene.
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Speaker 1: You are going to hear this story and you're gonna
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Speaker 1: be able to verify it for me or tell me
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Speaker 1: that I'm that I'm totally wrong and that I got
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Speaker 1: it wrong. Here's a deal. There was a hardcore band
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Speaker 1: called The Night still is I believe I think they
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Speaker 1: still might even play southern California and my band Castarnhike
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Speaker 1: toured with these guys. They were a notorious, notorious band.
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Speaker 1: We were warned up and down before we went on
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Speaker 1: tour with them of how to deal with these guys.
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Speaker 1: They were older than us, they were nastier and us.
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Speaker 1: They're crazier than us. And those warnings they were, they were,
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Speaker 1: they came with good reason. They were well intended, ignite
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Speaker 1: where everything you know off stage that we were told.
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Speaker 1: They were a bunch of good guys as well. But
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Speaker 1: one of the guys, the guitar player, his name escapes
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Speaker 1: me at the moment, and this is a long long
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Speaker 1: time ago, really good looking dude, and he did some
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Speaker 1: modeling and the rumor on him was that he was
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Speaker 1: in a Madonna video, And this is the story I
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Speaker 1: got from if I believe from him firsthand. And again
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Speaker 1: a lot of you from the hardcore scenem going to
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Speaker 1: know the story, so let me know. Apparently, he goes
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Speaker 1: into audition for this Madonna video as a as a backup,
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Speaker 1: like a dancer, like and I can't remember. I think
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Speaker 1: it was the Express Yourself video. I could be wrong,
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Speaker 1: but something in that era. So he goes in with
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Speaker 1: his buddy and of course everyone's going in and they're
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Speaker 1: all like, you know, they're all doing dance moves and
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Speaker 1: these choreographed things that they've worked up to kind of
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Speaker 1: impress Madonna. And this guy goes in there with his
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Speaker 1: buddy and they're these two hardcore kids, but they're good looking,
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Speaker 1: you know, and they just like take their shirts off
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Speaker 1: and start fucking slam dancing in front of Madonna in
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Speaker 1: the audition, and of course got the audition and they're
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Speaker 1: in the video. I thought that was very cool. If
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Speaker 1: anyone knows that they can fill in the gaps there
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Speaker 1: for the story, hit me up. Anyone knows who I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about, hit him up. It's been a long time,
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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I just thought i'd share that
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Speaker 1: that's my Madonna's story. It's not even mine, it's somebody else's,
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Speaker 1: but I thought you might like that. All right, we'll
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Speaker 1: be back in a minute and answer some emails. Can
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Speaker 1: answer some voicemails, going to answer some texts. Can't wait
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Speaker 1: to talk to y'all. All Right, we are back. Let's
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Speaker 1: talk at this email here, you guys, you can email
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Speaker 1: me Disgrace lampod at gmail dot com. This one comes
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Speaker 1: from Mark Whu len Kamaki. If I'm saying that wrong, Marku.
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Speaker 1: If I'm pronouncing your name wrong, I apologize. Mark Who
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Speaker 1: goes on to write, Hey, Jake, I've been a big
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Speaker 1: fan of your podcast for a few years now and
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Speaker 1: I've listened to every episode. I like to hear an
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Speaker 1: episode on country outlaw Steve Earle. He's lived a hard life,
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Speaker 1: been to prison and even being compared to Hanoi, Jane.
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Speaker 1: I also have a TV show in movie suggestion for
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Speaker 1: you that you should check out. The series is called
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Speaker 1: From and it's on Paramount and the movie is the
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Speaker 1: older one called Frailty with Bill Paxton and Matthew McConaughey.
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Speaker 1: Keep up the great work, Mark Who, Mark Who, So
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Speaker 1: check it out. I'm definitely doing a Steve Earrel episode
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Speaker 1: at some point. I love Steve Earl. I was listening
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Speaker 1: to him the other day, as a matter of fact,
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Speaker 1: Harlem River Blues. I was also listening to I Feel Alright,
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Speaker 1: which is from the mid nineties early nineties. Guitar Town.
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Speaker 1: Steve Earl's first record is a perfect record in my estimation,
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Speaker 1: even with the production that I don't love. That's how
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Speaker 1: good the songs are that I think. I still think
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Speaker 1: the album's perfect. How can it be perfect if from
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Speaker 1: criticizing the production, I don't know. I just feel like
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Speaker 1: saying that sounds like I know what I'm talking about.
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Speaker 1: I really don't know. I'm full of shit just like
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Speaker 1: everyone else. But I love Steve Earrel and I've met
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Speaker 1: Steve Earl a couple different times. And I'm in a
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Speaker 1: storytelling mood, as you can tell from the Ignit story
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Speaker 1: early on, so I'll tell you this story. Steve Earl
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Speaker 1: was one of my favorite singer songwriters when I was
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Speaker 1: making music. He was the model for the record that
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Speaker 1: I was trying to make with my band, The Confidence
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Speaker 1: Man at one point in time. Guitar Town, like I said,
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Speaker 1: was the model I should say not Steve Earl and
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Speaker 1: Steve and I. Steve had a fellow that he worked
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Speaker 1: with when he got out of prison named Jack Emerson,
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Speaker 1: who started a record label called E Squared, who I
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Speaker 1: started working with as well, not on East Squared, on
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Speaker 1: an imprint of Warner Brothers at the time that Jack
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Speaker 1: had started called Jack of Hearts. So very unfortunately, mister
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Speaker 1: Jack Emerson died. He died young while we were in
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Speaker 1: the process of working with each other. And of course
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Speaker 1: I went down to Nashville and I played at his
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Speaker 1: going away party, for lack of a better word. His
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Speaker 1: memorial was at this club, the Exit, in Steve Earl,
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Speaker 1: Jason and the Scorchers, John Hyatt, Billy Joe Shaver, all
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Speaker 1: these artists who Jack had worked with were playing and me,
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Speaker 1: and it felt a lot like being at a somebody
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Speaker 1: else's high school reunion. But I got up there and
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Speaker 1: I played, and I had a lot of fun. I
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Speaker 1: think I did a great job, if I do say
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Speaker 1: so myself. But I met Steve Earl that night for
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Speaker 1: the first time, and I do remember Warren from Jason
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Speaker 1: and the Scorchers being very very kind to me and
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Speaker 1: making sure that I felt alright. Punintended backstage without knowing
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Speaker 1: many people there, and yeah, I don't know that memory
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Speaker 1: just came to me. Second time I met Steve Earl, however,
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Speaker 1: was backstage at Carnegie Hall and I was there for
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Speaker 1: David Byrne's birthday and he lost Steve Earl had lost
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Speaker 1: his mandolin and I found it for him and I
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Speaker 1: gave it to him and I made him smile, and
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Speaker 1: I didn't say anything. I wasn't like, hey man, big fan, nothing,
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Speaker 1: just you know, did the guy solid went on my way?
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Speaker 1: Those are my Steve Earl stories. But I love Steve Earl,
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Speaker 1: and you know, frankly, I don't know much about those
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Speaker 1: sort of lost prison guns n' roses years, but I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna get into it. All right, great email, appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: I'll shut up for a minute. Let's hear what you
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Speaker 1: guys have to say. Okay, this one comes from Sharon
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Speaker 1: rahoach raoachee.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how to pronounce your last name, Sharon,
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Speaker 1: but I appreciate your email. Email says Hey Jake Terry Keith,
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Speaker 1: founding member of the Chicago Transit Authority aka Chicago groundbreaking
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Speaker 1: rock jazz fusion band from the early seventies still present.
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Speaker 1: Terry was suicidal on drugs and said if he didn't
13:42
Speaker 1: get off the stuff it would kill him. And he
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Speaker 1: had a gun collection. In one day, while playing with
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Speaker 1: his pistol, supposedly unloaded, spun the barrel, put it. I'm
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Speaker 1: not gonna go on, but needless to say, looks like
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Speaker 1: there might be a Chicago episode coming your way soon.
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Speaker 1: Great suggestion. Appreciate that. Todd Heath writes, saying, Hey, if
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Speaker 1: you're going to consider making episodes on wrestlers, you should
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Speaker 1: do it on Chrispiny. He was a great wrestler who
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Speaker 1: also murdered his wife and son. Brutal, brutal. Yeah, perhaps
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Speaker 1: we will get into that dark dark. I know we
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Speaker 1: deal in the darkness, but today, you know what, It's
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Speaker 1: just I don't feel I don't feel the darkness. The
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Speaker 1: sun is shining, it's beautiful out. The darkness is hitting
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Speaker 1: me a little a little harder today for some reason.
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Speaker 1: Let's do some voicemails and text from you guys. How
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Speaker 1: about that? All right, Let's tell this voicemail from the five.
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Speaker 3: Four to H mister Brennan, how are you doing this morning?
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Speaker 2: It's five morning, born morning, editing work. Chefs wanted to
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Speaker 2: throw if I got their home again. Jack Dempsey, Jack Depsty,
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Speaker 2: Jack Dempsey and Jack Depsy. That's a good, good episode
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Speaker 2: episode all right?
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Speaker 1: Five four? Oh Jack Dempsey, I hear you. I hear
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Speaker 1: you loud and clear. We'll look into it. All right.
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Speaker 1: Let's check out this voy smell from the nine to
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Speaker 1: oh four?
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Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, what's um?
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Speaker 3: This is vary from the nine to four? He's kind
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Speaker 3: of a piece of shit, not kind of, But David
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Speaker 3: allen Coe, I'm sure not the first person who's brought
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Speaker 3: him up, but even up until here recently got into
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Speaker 3: a car crash down in Florida, like kills himselves. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: and would be interesting to hear your take on David
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Speaker 3: allen Coe and the many personalities and lives of the
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Speaker 3: looking forward to Scott Weiland and.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the upcoming season.
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Speaker 3: Just listen to the after party, William F.
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Speaker 2: Burrows. That sh sounds gets to me.
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Speaker 3: Man's keep it up, no matter what you call it.
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Speaker 3: A disgrace is a disgrace. Rocket Roller.
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Speaker 1: Thanks dude, David allen Coe. You know this has been
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Speaker 1: requested since way way way, way way back, and uh,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I have mixed feelings about it because
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Speaker 1: I don't even know how to talk about it. I
15:57
Speaker 1: don't know much about David allen Coe, but I know
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Speaker 1: some of the stuff that he got up to, and
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Speaker 1: I know some of the things that he said and did,
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Speaker 1: and I don't really have a take yet, not to
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Speaker 1: say that I won't at some point. I appreciate you
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Speaker 1: bringing it up, and you're kind of motivating me to
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Speaker 1: look into this a little bit more and see if
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Speaker 1: I can figure something out. All right. Check out this
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Speaker 1: one from the two or three, And this herein lies
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Speaker 1: the point I was trying to make earlier about the
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Speaker 1: rewind episodes in the archive. We have checked this out.
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Speaker 1: This is from the two of three.
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Speaker 2: It is John from the two o three. How about
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Speaker 2: an episode Spade Coolie. He was a country music sensation
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Speaker 2: fiddle player, had his own big band and his own
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Speaker 2: television show. He beat his wife to death with his
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Speaker 2: own bare hands in front of his three children. He
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Speaker 2: even has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
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Speaker 1: Thanks man, So two o three. What I say about darkness, huh?
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Speaker 1: I can't escape it today. But listen, this is the
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Speaker 1: point I was making earlier. In that earlier block. We
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Speaker 1: have an episode on Spade Coolie from the first first
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Speaker 1: second season of Disgraceland. I believe us in the archive.
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Speaker 1: You can hear it now, and I will let you
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Speaker 1: know that after I wrote that episode, the darkness was
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Speaker 1: so so intense, I had to take like a two
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Speaker 1: to three week break from researching and writing. So check
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Speaker 1: that out. Six one seven nine oh six six six
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Speaker 1: three eight. Get at me, guys, let me know who
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Speaker 1: you want to hear me write about, talk about in
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Speaker 1: the new year. Get a lot planned for you. Got
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Speaker 1: a lot of texts here, haven't responded to text in
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Speaker 1: a while. Let's check these out. This one from the
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Speaker 1: six one two, Hey Jake, Hey, Steve Rayvaughan would be
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Speaker 1: a great listen. It was Steve Ravon's always a great
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Speaker 1: listen six one two. Come on, man, we'll get into
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Speaker 1: Stevie at some point. Six one seven rights in, Hey Jake,
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Speaker 1: it's Johnny Vinyl John McNeely. Been a little bit behind
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Speaker 1: on my Disgraceland episodes. Which one did you shout me
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Speaker 1: out on? I don't remember, Johnny, if you haven't check
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Speaker 1: it out. I'm reading Geddy Lee's in his chapter Getting
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Speaker 1: Lee's Book in his chapter on his parents surviving the
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Speaker 1: Holocaust was jaw dripping, so gritty, in detailed. Put it
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Speaker 1: in there because he said it's important to know the
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Speaker 1: stories behind what shapes a person, and in this case, uh,
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Speaker 1: the musician Johnny, You're so right, Gedty Lee is so right.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's the whole reason we're here, isn't it.
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Speaker 1: See what shape the musicians?
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Speaker 3: All right?
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Speaker 1: Nine one nine right saying, hey, Jake, some musicians stories
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Speaker 1: to tell, uh, maybe if you haven't told them already.
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Speaker 1: Dave from depeche Mode, Randy from Lamb of God, Shannon
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Speaker 1: from Blind Melon, Trent reznor Rick Rubin. Those are all
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Speaker 1: great and you're definitely getting into them at some point.
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Speaker 1: I would say, of the ones you mentioned there nine
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Speaker 1: to one nine, the depeche Mode and the Blind Melon
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Speaker 1: ones get suggested the most, so those will probably be
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Speaker 1: coming first. Six oh three, just writes in Sam Kinnison
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Speaker 1: and six oh three, I think you're right. I think
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Speaker 1: that's a great fucking idea. Paging Zeth Lundy, Hey, Jake
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Speaker 1: Kristen from the sixt' one to eight but formerly the
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Speaker 1: five seven three, listening to your latest bonus episode, wasn't
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Speaker 1: sure if you'd ever considered creating an episode on Dave Letterman,
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Speaker 1: who I haven't considered that, and I was big into
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Speaker 1: Letterman at the time of that scandal. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how I would handle that one. I
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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. Uh, let's go to the
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Speaker 1: five one three, Hey, Jake, Becky here from the five
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Speaker 1: to one to three, listening today to movie recommendations for kids.
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Speaker 1: I myself am a gen X mother. My son is
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Speaker 1: thirty now. I couldn't wait for him to grow up
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Speaker 1: and like the same movies and music as me. And
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Speaker 1: it happened. What a cool feeling it was. And this
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Speaker 1: is in response to me asking you guys how to
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Speaker 1: sort of bring our kids along into some of the
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Speaker 1: more explicit content that we're into without shielding them. And
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Speaker 1: Becky's got some great recommendations here. A lot of them
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Speaker 1: are movie recommendations, and I think I'll get into those
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Speaker 1: in the rap party that I'm going to record tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Six so four Wright saying hey, thanks for helping with
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Speaker 1: the dishes. Jakins sends a picture of him of doing
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Speaker 1: them dishes. You got it, man, You might want to
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Speaker 1: put on some pants. Looks like you're in a towel,
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Speaker 1: so that's good. Five oh five rights in, Hey, Jake,
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Speaker 1: my suggestion for an episode of Disgrace, and is the
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Speaker 1: artist Banksy? Aside from graffiti? Hey, this is the second
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Speaker 1: Banksy recommendation that I've received in the past couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to read any further because I don't
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Speaker 1: want to repeat myself, but it sounds like we might
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Speaker 1: be onto a Banksy episode at some point. Massive attack.
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Speaker 1: What else we got here? Four two three rights in?
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Speaker 1: Is there anything podworthy about Marilyn Manson? He seems like
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Speaker 1: a creepy dude. Of course there is, and we're gonna
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Speaker 1: do that one this year. Just waiting waiting for the
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Speaker 1: dust to settle, as they say. Four one two e
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Speaker 1: LP Emerson Lake and Palmer, Really Emerson Lake and Palmer?
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Speaker 1: What I don't know? Six one seven nine oh six
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Speaker 1: six sixty three eight Keep the recommendations coming, guys. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna take a quick break back and flash. All right,
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Speaker 1: we are back, and this is the recommendation's part, the
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Speaker 1: part of the show where we recommend the things that
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Speaker 1: are worth recommending, the recommendations part, guys. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I mentioned this last time we talked on either
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Speaker 1: the after party or the rap Party. But I watched
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Speaker 1: a great Parker Posy movie and I think I mentioned it,
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Speaker 1: and it reminds it reminds me of what's coming up
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Speaker 1: in the feed here, Party Girl, great New York nineties movie.
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Speaker 1: It's filmed at the exact moment in history when I
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Speaker 1: started going to Manhattan with my band to play shows.
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Speaker 1: It's like nineteen ninety five, ninety six. It's just it
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Speaker 1: just looks and feels so great. It's the New York
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Speaker 1: that I first, like I said, started going to and
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Speaker 1: fell in love with. And I was lucky enough that
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Speaker 1: New York still had a lot of danger to it.
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Speaker 1: It was still a lot less dangerous than it was
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Speaker 1: ten years part, but it was a much different animal
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Speaker 1: than what it became in the two thousands and what
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Speaker 1: it is now. And it's all captured in that film
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Speaker 1: in a way that really really brings me back, and
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Speaker 1: it reminds me. You know, Madonna is one of the
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Speaker 1: great I know she's not from New York. I know
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Speaker 1: she's from Michigan, but she definitely her career started in
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Speaker 1: New York and she is a great New York character.
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Speaker 1: And I really tried to nail that in the Madonna episode.
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Speaker 1: And I remember when I wrote the episode, I specifically
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Speaker 1: wanted to spend a good amount of brain energy, and
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Speaker 1: I didn't really realize how much time it would end
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Speaker 1: up being in the episode on the song Borderline, which
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Speaker 1: if you followed me on Instagram, you know I'm obsessed
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Speaker 1: with that song, and I wrote at the time this
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Speaker 1: is what I wrote at the time about Madonna and Borderline.
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Speaker 1: Madonna immersed herself from the growing dance club scene of
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Speaker 1: the early eighties in Manhattan, and club culture, a culture
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Speaker 1: that celebrated and flaunted sex, was as big an influence
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Speaker 1: on Madonna as downtown. Her sexuality was hers to play with,
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Speaker 1: and she was unafraid to share it with the world.
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Speaker 1: All of this is on display in her first single
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Speaker 1: to hit the Billboard US Top ten, Borderline. It's hard
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Speaker 1: for me to explain the greatness and appeal of Madonna's Borderline.
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Speaker 1: The opening notes on the electric piano got me every
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Speaker 1: time I hear them. It's a simple, childlike sound and
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Speaker 1: melancholic melody that looks back to the seventies, and then
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Speaker 1: the beat comes in and all of a sudden you're
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Speaker 1: in a new decade, onto something fresh, fully committed to
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Speaker 1: the promise of the unknown. The feeling is similar to
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Speaker 1: the beginnings of any great relationship. You feel comfortable and safe,
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Speaker 1: while at the same time excited about where it's all going.
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Speaker 1: The single was Madonna's first big come on. Her flirtatious
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Speaker 1: glance across the bar, her nonchalant bump on the dance floor.
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Speaker 1: It was electric. The casual touch from her hand pushing it,
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Speaker 1: the whisper in your ear keep pushing it, and the
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Speaker 1: mischievous laugh. Heart melting, the smile, the pout, the abandon,
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Speaker 1: the control. A total turn on. Madonna had made a
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Speaker 1: pass at America, and America was smitten. I love that
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Speaker 1: fucking song. Can you tell? It's so good? It's so, so,
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Speaker 1: so so good. And I love this Madonna episode and
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Speaker 1: I hope you guys do as well. Check it out.
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Speaker 1: It's coming up in your feeds this Friday. Hit me
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Speaker 1: up six one seven, nine oh six sixty six three
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Speaker 1: eight let me know what you think about it. You
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Speaker 1: can also hit me on Instagram at disgrace lam pod,
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Speaker 1: Twitter x YouTube TikTok at disgracelam pod. I want to
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Speaker 1: read you guys, this dm I got on Instagram and
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Speaker 1: the listener asked that she not be mentioned by name,
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Speaker 1: and she sent in some pictures too. But we released
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Speaker 1: a Sharon Stone episode recently and in the bad Lands feed,
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Speaker 1: and that's what this is in relation too. But this
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Speaker 1: listener writes me a lot about the DISGRACEDND episodes as well,
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Speaker 1: and she's great, and I get why she doesn't want
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Speaker 1: her name mentioned. But I want to read this to
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Speaker 1: you anyways, and apologies. Now if you listen to the
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Speaker 1: Rap Party this week, you hear this there too, because
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna double dip and read it over there too
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Speaker 1: because the I'm just so jazzed by this message. Hey
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Speaker 1: j Cappy twenty twenty four, Well, I sometimes I feel
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Speaker 1: like you've read my diary when it comes to your shows,
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Speaker 1: my connections to Scorsese, byork Jane's addiction, we're all tangential,
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Speaker 1: but today you hit home, hit home, all caps. She
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Speaker 1: goes on to say, the summer I graduated from college,
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Speaker 1: I acted in my university's summer theater program. I met
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Speaker 1: an up and coming actress from Los Angeles and we
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Speaker 1: became fast friends. She encouraged me to move out to
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Speaker 1: La instead of New York City, which was my plan,
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Speaker 1: and I did just that, and she helped me out.
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Speaker 1: When I got there. Her career was taking off, and
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Speaker 1: she got me extra work on three of her films,
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Speaker 1: the first of which was Basic Instinct. If I have
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Speaker 1: an already guessed it was Sharon Stone. I was privy
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Speaker 1: to a lot of the goings on and know all
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Speaker 1: about the day she shot the interrogation scene. I sat
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Speaker 1: behind her at the premiere and heard her gasp when
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Speaker 1: she first saw it. The listener sends, in these pictures,
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Speaker 1: they're so great, I wish I could share them with you.
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Speaker 1: They're from nineteen ninety and their candids of her with
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Speaker 1: Sharon Stone in her kitchen, which, as you can imagine,
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Speaker 1: candids of Sharon Stone in nineteen ninety are pretty fucking compelling. Myself,
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Speaker 1: Sharon and my ex at a New Year's Eve party
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Speaker 1: in ninety two, and that year she helped me get
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Speaker 1: me a small role in Sliver that ended up on
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Speaker 1: the cutting room floor. Oh well, I'm sharing this with
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Speaker 1: you because I know you'll appreciate and you could share
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Speaker 1: on the show, but please don't use my name. You
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Speaker 1: got it. I just wanted to wanted to share that
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Speaker 1: because we tried really hard here at Graceland and bad Lands.
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Speaker 1: We're all the same crew to tow the line between,
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Speaker 1: you know, what we find in our research, what happened,
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Speaker 1: and how to turn that into something that's that's that
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Speaker 1: adheres to the truth of the story, but is also entertaining.
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Speaker 1: And when we hear from people who were there in
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Speaker 1: the moment and let us know that we're that we're
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Speaker 1: on the right track, it just it's really validating, and
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I felt like that would be a
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Speaker 1: good share with you guys. So so there you go.
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Speaker 1: Apologize for any If that's perceived as self aggrandizing or
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Speaker 1: anything like that, that's not the point. I just you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm like everyone, I get psyched by bold face names
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Speaker 1: and candid photos of Sharon Stone. Can't help me. I
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Speaker 1: can take a quick break six one seven nine oh
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Speaker 1: all right, welcome back again. Six one seven nine oh six,
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Speaker 1: six six three eight. That's the number you can hit
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Speaker 1: me up at Disgrace lamb pod like we said on Instagram, x, Facebook, YouTube, wherever, TikTok,
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Speaker 1: and let's just recap this all right right now. Number
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Speaker 1: one in your feed, a brand new episode on Serge Gainsburg.
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Speaker 1: Number two coming tomorrow. A rewind episode on Madonna. Number
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Speaker 1: three over in the bad Lands Feed. We got a
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Speaker 1: new episode on Lawrence and Write. Number four next week
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Speaker 1: in the Disgrace Land Feed, a brand new episode on
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Speaker 1: Stu Sutcliffe aka Chapter nine of Our Beatles Saga number
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Speaker 1: you love more than you do. And well that's a disgrace,
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Speaker 1: okay for my moment of bliss in honor of this
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