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Loki Reveals the Shocking Equinox Distribution Shake-Up & Gamefound Leap · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Everybody's ready, radio perfect. What's going on? Everybody? I am
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  Speaker 1: the one, the only, the w O O K I
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  Speaker 1: E joined here. Okay, we got rid of a misfit,
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  Speaker 1: but we replaced a misfit. But we have some of
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  Speaker 1: the normal misfits. We have the kid who knows more
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  Speaker 1: than you, mister Cole Robbie, Hey yo, everyone's favorite red
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  Speaker 1: shirt Dexter. Hello, everybody, and we Felix, we just fired him,
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  Speaker 1: just outright fied. He's no longer on the cast. We
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  Speaker 1: replaced Felix with Loki. What's going on? Loki?
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  Speaker 2: By get? That was it? That was it? I'm good,
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  Speaker 2: I'm good. It's it's only eleven pm, so that that's
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  Speaker 2: that's a good time to do that. I'm all fired up.
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  Speaker 2: Let's let's do this.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll we'll try to keep it to a minimum
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  Speaker 1: here today. Obviously there's a big time difference between us
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  Speaker 1: and you, so we'll make sure you are. You are
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  Speaker 1: quite arrested. Why don't we start out what was your
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  Speaker 1: role and what do you do for altered.
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  Speaker 2: And that's supposed to be shot? That answer should be
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  Speaker 2: like one hour.
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  Speaker 3: Give us like a quick answer.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I wanted to give you the express platform to
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  Speaker 4: explain everything you do. I mean, just try to make it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's a list of what you don't do
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  Speaker 1: smaller and we should just go there.
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  Speaker 2: Uh No, let's go with the thing I'm supposed to do,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe I do. Uh So I'm the community builder,
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  Speaker 2: so that's not really the committee manager. I also do
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  Speaker 2: what a social media manager would do, so I post
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  Speaker 2: things on social media. I do the animation on Discord
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  Speaker 2: and other like social network. And I also manage all
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  Speaker 2: the influants and like events activities where I'm there and
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  Speaker 2: if there is anything cominter related. I do the pres
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  Speaker 2: kits for the for the game. I do the planning
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  Speaker 2: of reveals for the influencers and for the communitee. I
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  Speaker 2: bother people at work. What else? Basically that that that's it,
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  Speaker 2: and that's already a lot on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 4: You also have a hand in helping design some of
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  Speaker 4: the like swag right like play mats and the wooly
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  Speaker 4: backplush other things.
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  Speaker 2: No, not real well, it depends if it's something that
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  Speaker 2: I use for my activities or not. So for example,
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  Speaker 2: the bass Battle Metal, that's something that I've done at
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  Speaker 2: least I've helped like ask what I wanted and the specifications,
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  Speaker 2: and then somebody more talented than me did the design.
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  Speaker 2: Another example, and she's in the in the audience, the
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  Speaker 2: looking to explainat was all me writing stuff on the
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  Speaker 2: playmath and then swolkey geographical thing. And then I do
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  Speaker 2: have my say on stuff that are like commuity related.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, for example, the will backlash, I add the
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  Speaker 2: final say in should we protest it or not? So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I do stuff because I like to buy stuff, so
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  Speaker 2: I do things that I want to buy. That's my secret.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmm yeah, quick quick aside to just say that
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  Speaker 4: uh swarky or sorry, let me say it correctly. Swee
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  Speaker 4: Orkie h does not give herself enough credit for all
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  Speaker 4: the artsy stuff that she does. So good Paul out
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  Speaker 4: there by Loki. I had a picture of the medal.
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  Speaker 4: I had a really good picture of the first player
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  Speaker 4: like medtal token that I was going to share in
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  Speaker 4: the live. There it is in the live audience. It
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  Speaker 4: is a very a very very nice coin. It is
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  Speaker 4: my new favorite first player coin. But hmm do we
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  Speaker 4: uh well, actually, there is there is one question that
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  Speaker 4: I think I know the answer to that I kind
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  Speaker 4: of want to get out of the way, and people
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  Speaker 4: are I think reading into this too much, so we'll
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  Speaker 4: just ask it. Why are the booster boxes of Skybound
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  Speaker 4: Odyssey more than they've been before?
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  Speaker 2: What more?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they are a higher MSRP at least in most countries.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, Honestly, I don't know. That's not something well, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not like responsible of that kind of decisions. It's likely
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  Speaker 2: due to inflation, slightly due to logins that you do
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  Speaker 2: to a lot of stuff. But the real reason why
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  Speaker 2: is I don't know, and I don't even know what
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  Speaker 2: I do know, but I could not communicate with you
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  Speaker 2: the price of the new displays, so I'm not even
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  Speaker 2: sure it will be aligned to what it was.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for me it's a very obvious result
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  Speaker 4: of you know, the last year of everything pariffs and
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  Speaker 4: how should go? Yep, I think it now, No, I
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  Speaker 4: think it now. Booster box MSRP is one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: sixty five, one hundred and sixty eight, thank you, Wyverne.
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  Speaker 4: And it used to be one forty four.
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  Speaker 1: But the so literally we're all complaining about twenty four dollars.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and people are ready.
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  Speaker 1: A pack of soda. Last year used to call me
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  Speaker 1: cost me four ninety eight, it's now almost ten dollars, so,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but twenty four dollars for our premium cardboards
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  Speaker 1: on Bridge too far?
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  Speaker 2: Come on now?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was kind of a hard question to ask
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  Speaker 4: Loki because I mean, it is not his fault, but
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  Speaker 4: people were like thinking that Equinox was adding more into
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  Speaker 4: the box and Equinox was deciding to charge more, and
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  Speaker 4: I was like, no, no, no, I'm pretty sure that's
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  Speaker 4: not the reason.
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  Speaker 2: So I do have a question for you, and that
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  Speaker 2: maybe a stupid question because you may have the answer,
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  Speaker 2: But are you, like all familiar with the distribution circuit
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  Speaker 2: and what is our role and what was the role
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  Speaker 2: of p SMODI and how everything else was designed?
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  Speaker 4: I think I personally have a decent grasp, but it'd
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  Speaker 4: probably be great for you to explain that as quickly
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  Speaker 4: as you can.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can try quickly. A lot of people, and
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  Speaker 2: especially at the beginning, and well even now in the US,
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  Speaker 2: we've seen a lot of people like angry because the
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  Speaker 2: game was not available and they were asking us, why
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  Speaker 2: are you not like prompting the game and everything, and basically,
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  Speaker 2: we are only creating the game, were not publishing it,
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  Speaker 2: and that's something that is a bit different from video game,
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  Speaker 2: for example, in which they are also publishing and creating
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  Speaker 2: the game. So we only a studio, we create the game,
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  Speaker 2: and then the game was sold to Asmodi, and then
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  Speaker 2: asbody was contacting all the local distribution units asking for
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  Speaker 2: the cantuities like that they think their shops are going
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  Speaker 2: to buy. And then everybody agrees on prices. How much
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  Speaker 2: do we sell those boosters to smodi and what is
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  Speaker 2: the margin at this point and everything. So there are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of things in this distribution circuit that goes.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen a few discussions about this about Australia. Australia
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  Speaker 2: is very far away obviously, so you can either ship
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  Speaker 2: by boat or by playing. But if you do that
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  Speaker 2: at some point it will be cheap. It will be
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  Speaker 2: more expensive that doing that by boat, so the margin
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  Speaker 2: will be different. And there's a lot of things that
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  Speaker 2: is happening, and there's been also terarriffs and so I
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  Speaker 2: guess it was like a global decision to change that
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  Speaker 2: so that everybody would find themselves comfortable with the imagines.
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  Speaker 2: But once again, that's a business thing, so people are
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  Speaker 2: not like always aware of what it will do to
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  Speaker 2: the final customer what is they know? But if you
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  Speaker 2: want the business to keep running, you have to like
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  Speaker 2: adjust a few things at that route. And probably you
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  Speaker 2: are again to ask me, what are the changes now
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  Speaker 2: if we distribute ourselves, Well, we will be distributing again
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  Speaker 2: all sales. So that's that's a big change because there
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  Speaker 2: is a part of the secret that is gone with
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  Speaker 2: the good aspect and the bad aspect. But yeah, that
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  Speaker 2: was as short as I could.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think that put it into a very
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  Speaker 4: good context. And to be honest, it's kind of outside
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  Speaker 4: of what the rest of this conversation will be. But
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  Speaker 4: I just saw the question pop up in multiple different places,
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  Speaker 4: and so it's good to hear more info because people
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  Speaker 4: don't trust me. I'm just a random vegetable.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's I think that's number one, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: even Yeah, it is what it is. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: a silly quest. I've never known. I've been on this
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  Speaker 1: earth for thirty seven years, and in all of my
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven years, the only thing I've ever seen go
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  Speaker 1: down in price is gas, and that's sometimes right, and
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  Speaker 1: most almost everything goes up, So like, why did it
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  Speaker 1: go up? Twenty four dollars because it's the year twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five, you know, that's that's kind of why So
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  Speaker 1: that's that's just kind of like and it's only twenty
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  Speaker 1: four bucks, like that's not that much to really get
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  Speaker 1: all concerned about. So but I guess with a big
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  Speaker 1: with a big change comes like oh this this must
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  Speaker 1: be because of this, the normal knee jerk reaction of everything.
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  Speaker 1: So alrighty, you want to keep going into your your
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  Speaker 1: your ready your starters here?
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  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I do. I do have some soft ball questions,
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  Speaker 4: so we can start soft I guess, you know, get
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  Speaker 4: that run time up? What are what are you most
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  Speaker 4: excited about? Where this change?
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  Speaker 2: So while I'm doing this, uh yeah, probably I'm inswering
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  Speaker 2: at the same time another of the file. Uh anyway, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: more visible that way. I think it's well, it's a
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  Speaker 2: mix of many things, but one of the main thing
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  Speaker 2: is personally, I'm very reppy that we are distributing the
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  Speaker 2: game to anybody that wants it, because one of the
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  Speaker 2: most frustrating thing for me when I'm reading all the
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  Speaker 2: private messages on Instagram, for example, other questions like how
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  Speaker 2: do I get the game? Are you not selling the game? Yourself,
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  Speaker 2: and no we are not. And if you check out
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  Speaker 2: any other TCGs, they are not saying the game themselves.
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  Speaker 2: So people were expecting that from us and we were
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  Speaker 2: not able to do that, and people we're not doing that.
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  Speaker 2: So the thing now that we are distributing ourselves, it
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  Speaker 2: will be way better for people to get the game,
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  Speaker 2: which is something that I'm very excited about really, and
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  Speaker 2: even for shops, I think it will be way better
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  Speaker 2: for them to just like contact us and get all
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  Speaker 2: the advantages they have to reach us. So that's a
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  Speaker 2: good thing. And then we have some I'm not din
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  Speaker 2: say margin, but we have more room to experiment stuff
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  Speaker 2: the pleasure or products or even like I'll say that
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  Speaker 2: when you when you do product that is going I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to say mainstream, but at least go to
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  Speaker 2: that niche you are expected to produce some items on
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  Speaker 2: some regular things and altered as not being like doing
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  Speaker 2: like everybody else. So that way, by not being on
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  Speaker 2: the classic system, will be probably able to be more
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  Speaker 2: us that what we used to be. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying that it is a good thing. Being me is
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  Speaker 2: a terrible thing, but being us probably going to be fun.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm I'm excited for that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you'll definitely have more control now now that you
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  Speaker 5: don't have to go to Asthma Day for everything, and
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  Speaker 5: you can, yeah, deal with your own organized play and
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  Speaker 5: other things.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: I was just gonna say exactly, like when you wanted
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  Speaker 4: to make something for Altered before, you kind of had
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  Speaker 4: to go to mom and dad, Mom being Asthma Dae
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  Speaker 4: and Dad being game genic, And now I mean you
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  Speaker 4: just really have to decide as a team and maybe
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  Speaker 4: go to a factory direct if you want to do
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  Speaker 4: a Hunger plush in the future or something.
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  Speaker 2: But that's also means that we're going to have way
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  Speaker 2: much more like work than what used to do, because
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  Speaker 2: if you're working with the distributor, you expect the distributor
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  Speaker 2: to do that distributing job and do that like selling
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  Speaker 2: the game to shops directly. Since that will be gone,
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  Speaker 2: it will be up to us to do that, and
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be complicated.
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  Speaker 4: I do not know what happened, but we lost Wookie
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  Speaker 4: somehow in the audience.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I didn't know it was I
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  Speaker 1: was just listening. You're like, I look up. I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I am in the audience who knew.
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  Speaker 4: All right, last last softball from me is what did
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  Speaker 4: the decision process look like leading up to this change?
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  Speaker 2: Probably meetings with people with higher salary than I have,
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  Speaker 2: So I do not know exactly all all the things
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  Speaker 2: that were involved in this. What I do know is
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  Speaker 2: that it was not done on a whim. It was
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  Speaker 2: discussed with Asthma ri uh, it was discussed with retailers
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  Speaker 2: to have discussed with the community. So a lot of
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: people were involved in a lot of like a lot
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  Speaker 2: of steps just to make sure that we could like
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  Speaker 2: actually pull it at all the decisions, like all the
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: thought process. Honestly, I do not have all the answers
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  Speaker 2: about that, so I could not tell you everything because
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  Speaker 2: I just myself do not know everything.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great to hear that you met with, you know,
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  Speaker 4: multiple different groups of people instead of just I don't
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  Speaker 4: know the board, whether or not there's an actual board,
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  Speaker 4: but that concept, but actually the community and stores and
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  Speaker 4: things like that to get feedback. So that's really cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, LOOKI you what's my turn now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I might have to pick and choose if we're
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  Speaker 4: going to get to some of Felix's unless we just
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  Speaker 4: really ousted him entirely.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we are to him entirely. So you guys
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  Speaker 1: called this a pre order as opposed to like a
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  Speaker 1: traditional game founder kickstarter. What was the decision making and
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  Speaker 1: going back to game found to doing a game found
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  Speaker 1: as opposed to just letting stores handle pre orders.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, okay, there are two questions for the first aspect,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it's something that I've answered, and I
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  Speaker 2: my answer will be meeting with the older versions of
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  Speaker 2: what I've said previously. But it's a pre order because
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  Speaker 2: the product basically is done, well don't in the sense
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  Speaker 2: that every everything they are looking on the uniques I
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  Speaker 2: think right now. And yeah, so it's really one of
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  Speaker 2: the quantities that we need to produce to fit what
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  Speaker 2: the people actually want from the product. So that's why
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  Speaker 2: we call that pre order and not a crowd funding
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  Speaker 2: because in any case, the game is developed, it's done,
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  Speaker 2: is finished, so it's only just pre order the quantity
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  Speaker 2: that will be done if like there is no strategical
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  Speaker 2: or anything. Oops.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, just gives you an idea of what what
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  Speaker 1: you're going to need to produce.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, ok, yeah, exactly the thing. Also you've said, why
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  Speaker 2: not only go through to the shops. That is a
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  Speaker 2: good question, and honestly, I once again do not have
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  Speaker 2: all the answers, because that's that's actually a good one.
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  Speaker 2: But if I need to guess, and I'm just guessing
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: at this point, but doing again found when we saw
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  Speaker 2: the kickstart of the success that he had and it
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: way like the reach of the kickstarter was amazing and
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  Speaker 2: it was beyond our initial expectations. You create discussions, you
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  Speaker 2: create a lot of stuff, you create some discussions about
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  Speaker 2: about the game, and it's a moment to celebrate the game.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's that's something that we wanted to do,
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  Speaker 2: especially since we know that the game like stumbled at
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  Speaker 2: some point. When you look back right now the marketplace
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: is released, Bja's walking. A lot of stuff that were
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: promised when we are now celebrating that that first year anniversary,
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  Speaker 2: things have been delivered, but there have been some issues.
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  Speaker 2: There have been some distribution issues also, there have been
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  Speaker 2: some quantities issues. So we wanted to have that moment,
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  Speaker 2: that celebration moment, and I think that's what we are doing,
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  Speaker 2: and that's also a way for us, and that's something
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  Speaker 2: that not only me, but you're seeing me a lot
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  Speaker 2: on socials and discord, but we like to be close
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  Speaker 2: to people. We like to enjoy those moments with the
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  Speaker 2: communitee and that's on that's in our DNA to share
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: those moments. And also, and that's also hypothesis on my side,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: but with the current light, we know that for example,
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  Speaker 2: the game in the US, and that's something that you
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: guys told me several times, some shops do not have
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the game or do not have the game anymore. And
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  Speaker 2: if you go through the shops, why would they say yes?
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, if you do game Found
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  Speaker 2: and gainstraction, you're showing people that people want the game.
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  Speaker 2: And also from once again an discertion standpoint, for people
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  Speaker 2: that were saying I have a bunch a friend and
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  Speaker 2: we cannot play the game because a local game shops
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  Speaker 2: they don't have the game. Well, now you can get
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  Speaker 2: it on Game Found. And then if you're playing in ulgs,
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  Speaker 2: we've with your friends with the cads that you've bought
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  Speaker 2: on the game Found that maybe those people will be
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: interested in running op for the next time. And and
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: then you create those local gumuchis that were not doable
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  Speaker 2: in the past, and that will be way better, and
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I think I answered like multiple questions at once.
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  Speaker 1: I think you did so. Yeah, but that's because for
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  Speaker 1: me though I can't I've talked about this many times
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  Speaker 1: in the show. I can't get U altered, like I
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  Speaker 1: have to order it from you know, wherever I can
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  Speaker 1: order it online. There are no shots around me who
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: do anything with with the game at this point, and
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: being somebody who I don't enjoy online play as much
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  Speaker 1: as others, I much prefer in person. So normally whenever
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Dexter comes around, I play a few games with him.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, the game founds a big way for me
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  Speaker 1: to have access to it as well. So were there
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  Speaker 1: were there any fears about going to get to the
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  Speaker 1: game found platform as far as the you know, local
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  Speaker 1: gaming store game found kind of being a big four
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  Speaker 1: letter word kind of taboo that I know a lot
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  Speaker 1: of game stores hate to hear. Yeah, when it comes
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  Speaker 1: down to a.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Product, I mean, I mean that that's obvious. Saying the
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: contrary would be lying because it's the same thing that
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: that happened when we start the game. You do not
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: know how people are going to react to a product
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: that nobody has done before. And I know that some
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: people are comparing us to Keyfoards about going to to
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: get found and everything. I don't think that's that's the same. Still,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: you cannot know how people are going to react to this,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to say, like a bullshit example, but
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: maybe nobody is going to buy displays of sets five,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: but the willibags are going to be like sold out
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: in two minutes. You never know. You don't know how
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: that's going to like go so.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Weird story Well, Forge released the plushy. I said, these
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: things are the dumbest things ever. Everyone else loves.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Everyone bought them.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Everyone.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, my friend helped design it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: And it's like I was like, what kind of grown
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: person who is gonna want a stupid stuffed animal? And
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: then everyone's like I have seven of them, Like why why?
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So I'm actually planning to buy several. I
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: want one to to keep, like as a memento of
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: the game, but I do want one that I will
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: be like making clothes for like all disgust and stuff.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: And I want one that will be in the office
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: that I will just use to throw away at people.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I just throw you throw this people.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: And I understand this because I own a phone brick
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: that I throw at my employees where they pissed me off.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so see totally understood that blushes up like it's
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: it's a therapy. You have to you have to buy
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: them anyway.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I can't throw real bricks, so I.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: F you can, but you're going to do that only
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: once and then.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: A weird story you only get to do it the
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: one time then hr because it's evolved back.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: To the question we My like feeling about that is
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: that shops that have the game right now and they
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: have a strong scene just going to continue the game,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: they may open and that's something that I think, Yeah,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: shops will be able to like pre order the game
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: before player, so they will be able to also like
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: open per other for people way before people can actually
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: go on Game Found. So that will be one way
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: to like get cash and get an idea of how
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: much people are willing to get the game through the
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: shops and not through the Game Found. So that's that's
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: one of the first things. And I don't think both
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: are going to be like uh fighting. I mean a
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: lot of people are saying this that you are going
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: to buy on the Game Found and and you're not
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: going to buy to the shop. I think that's and
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry for all the people that are going to
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: be listening to this. I do believe that this is bullshit.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: I've been playing TCGs. I'm one year younger than you,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Wookie some thirty six at the moment. I've been playing
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: TCGs for a long time. I was younger than Dexter when.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: And you never, like by just one displain and you're like, Okay,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good for the entry five months. No,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: you're playing locally, you'll be willing to do a draft,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: You'll be you'll be saying, hey, I'm missing some rares,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: or I just want another display. Where you're going to
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: go You're going to go to the shops. Of course,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: when a new set is released, there is a huge
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: spike in sales, like in the first two weeks, and
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: then it's quieter. But I do think that I think
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: things in shop won't be an issue.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm going off script on this
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: or not, but like, do you I mean, I know
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: you already had said that you're going to have certain
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: items that are only going to be available at the
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: game shop, Like, is there a way that you're going
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: to maybe push people to be like, yeah, you can
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: buy from the Game Found, but if you buy from
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: your local game store, you will also maybe get X,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Y and Z. You know, it's like like Projic did
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: for a long time with like a box topper or
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: like something cool that like I'm not going to get.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: You know, I can order three boxes from the Game Found,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: or I can go order three boxes from Jeff down
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the street and I'll get this cool thing.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Obviously, I cannot go far into the details.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I know I went totally off script and took a
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: right turner apologize.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: But that's just only fine because as I was stelling
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: you before, we've sent today a newsletter to hold them
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: the stalls that we had, you know, database, and we
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: discuss with them, like we announced a few things that
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: they will be getting in eyeo quantity that people could
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: ever oder on the Game Found. Okay, so that's it
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: will be leaking anyway at some point because we know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: and that's a good thing people will be discussing. But
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: there is a very specific product that the shops will
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: be able to get in far larger quantities that you can.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: So if you want that, you have to go to
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: the shop.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think, just to back up what you said,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: using the example of myself and L e. O. For
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: the Dallas area, we probably attend the locals the most often,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: and both of us are like, yeah, well back the
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: game Found and still go to our local store and
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: buy things from them here and there. So will there
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: be a person that only does it for the game Found? Probably,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: but they're probably already like the tabletop gamer, you know,
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: the kitchen table and nothing was really going to change that.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: So yeah, a lot of people that support their lgs
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: will continue to support their lgs as long as they
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: have a way to.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I know that some people, and once again I'm sorry
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I'm getting a bit of script on this, but a
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: lot of people were asking, why should I go to
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: my store if I can order on the game Found. Dude,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: you don't even know what we're going to see on
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the game film, so you don't even know if it's
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: better for you or not, if it's fitting the kind
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: of player that you are. Are you a player? Are
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: you a collector? Are you a competitive player? That's way
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: different is the pledge the exact number of display that
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: you want, is the plage having the items that you want?
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: That's so many questions that people like project the worst scenario,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: but all the information out there yet, And that was
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: at the ends up my sentence.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: I think it's also good to just reiterate something you
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: said where stores will have their own path outside of
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: game Found to order.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Correct. Okay, cool, that's true.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: So I do have I guess I have some questions
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: on the game Found because you kind of cleared a
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: couple up. So is being I know a little bit,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: very little bit about game Found with just working with
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: it obviously from KeyForge, but it's game Found more of
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: an indie like indie Go go, like this is how
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: much you ordered it, this is how much we have
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: to produce, as opposed to a kickstarter where like you
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: set a goal and you have to hit that goal
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: otherwise and nothing ever happens with it. Because I know
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: there's a like we just released another game phone for KeyForge, right,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: you know, it was like fifty thousand dollars is our
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: our backing goal. Right, Obviously that's not a lot of money, right,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: so it gets backed really quickly, And our assumption always
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: was on the other side, was well, it's a nice
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: marketing piece that you know, as a marketerer. You could
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: be funded in twenty seven seconds. You know, it's a
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: nice banner piece you're able to put out there. But
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: then now after hearing this, it's like, well, maybe that's
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: just like, is that the lowest you can set the goal?
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe you don't have to even set a goal. I
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: haven't done really any research on this point, but it's like, well,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: maybe you don't have to do a goal and just
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: whatever his order is ordered and they can fulfill it.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: At that point, I think.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: You have to do you have to do a goal anyway.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I honestly do you not know the nervevielle that is
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: going to be set. I do remember that we did.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: We've done the same for the key starter, so probably
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: it's going to be something like that, But I do
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: not know. What I can tell you is that game
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: found actually acquired indiegog.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that I don't know, but like I know,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: like Indiegogo was like, yeah, you can just order it
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: and whatever is ordered's ordered, like there was no goal
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: or like Kickstarter, if you know, if you sat like, hey,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: it's a million dollars to fund this project. If it
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't hit that million dollars, it just kind of sits
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: in purgatory for forever, you know, until it hits that
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: dollar amount, you know, but then you know, I don't know.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: If I don't honestly know if Game Found was the same.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I have no idea honestly on that. I have no idea.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: And the sales that are going to be done to
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: the shops directly won't even be concerning the total for
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the for the Game Found, so I have no idea
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: how they're getting to to do this calculation. I barely
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: can count to ten when I'm playing at it, so
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to count millions fair enough.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I did have another couple of questions here that I'm
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: going to kind of just kind of strike because I
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: don't think they're really relevant. But as far as prizing
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: kits and whatnot go, it's been a challenge for me
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: in my area, especially since you know, I do know
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: people who do play, but like we're not able to
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: like really get you know, any prizing or anything like
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: that because we're not in a brick and mortar store.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: It does take a long time to get a brick
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and mortar store, you know, you come to them, You're like, hey,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I want to do this, and they're like, ah, well,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: think about it, and then you know, you circle back
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: around and you're like, what about it? They're like, we
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: don't know, and you're kind of stuck in this like
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: circle right, But it's like, okay, Well, if I have
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: a game club and say we meet somewhere, is it
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: possible you guys would be willing to send out prizing
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: kids to like clubs and whatnot? Or is that not?
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I think I think it's too soon. Is it's not
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: too soon like in the in the product's life, but
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: it's too soon with this this new system. How do
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: you like if we wanted to do that, we would
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: have liked to solve several stuff. One of the third
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: things that we need to solve is we're speaking for
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: the shipping cost? Is it us? Is it is it them?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: How we're going to send that? How much do we
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: produce for that? How do we select those people? Like
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: if you start an Nobi club in in some place
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: that is very crowded, that school that you are three people,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: should we send you stuff? How do we create the
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: rules in which people are made eligible to get this?
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: So that's that's very complicated. The limit that we've set
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: so far is if you have a club and you
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: have a shop that is willing to just set up
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: a store accounts, it is okay for them to let
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: you use it to create events as long as it's
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: done through the shop's account. So that's the thing that
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: we are doing. But the physical pricing kits, that's a
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: lot of things that would be needed to be considered
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: and we are not like big enough to do that
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: and I'm not even sure like any other TCGs are
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: doing that. So of course we would love to do that,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: but I don't think we have the manpower right now
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: because I am one hundred person sure that we would
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: get like dozens of message from people asking, hey, I
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: once organize stuff with micropow friends, and we want to
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: do that. But if we are giving away stuff for people,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: all those people are still going to be like going
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: to the shops. You don't know that, So you have
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: to investigate on the region. Is us doing that making
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: it worse for the shops or nuts? There are so
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: many things to consider. We don't we don't have the
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: time right now, but at which we had, but we
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: don't not have a.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Good antidote or not antidote, what's the word uh not antidote. Anecdote.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: There you go, Thank you college educated Dexter. So, how
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: the current system is is you have to reach out
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: to your local asthmid A branch, right, So for all
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: of us in the United States, it's basically as mid
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: A North America. And every single person I know that
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: has ever tried to ask Asthma Day for something in
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: that regard at all, they never ever get an answer. Yes,
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: So that's already more of an answer than we've had
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: from Asthma Day in the past. So yeah, it is.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: It is a lot.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that was good.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: No, I mean it's an honest answer to because I
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: kind of expected the same answer that I got, Because
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: it's where do you draw that line? Right? How do
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: you know this is actually going to somebody who's playing,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: you know, at their local library or wherever the case
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: may be, and not to you know, Steve and his
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: basement just now opening gobs of of of prize packs
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: because he says he has he's got a he runs
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: a tournament there every week. Right, So it's it's a
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: very it's a tough line and where do you draw it?
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: And you're always is unfortunately going to have to like
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: upset some people over it because it's just it's the
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: it is the nature of the beast, right, so that
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: it's not fun, but it is what it is, right.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: So and and just to I know that you guys
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: had issue with a distribution and everything, but when you
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: look at the bigger picture, and even though Asthma ris
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: is a big company like imaging, know, having all those
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: meetings and working on several TCGs and having like even
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: one email like per week from every state from people
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: willing to organize something, you just cannot answer that. And
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: if you start making an exception and setting a precedent,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you'll be sure that people are going to be like
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: angry and asking for more, and everybody will want to
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: have the same thing, and then the poor Asthmatic guy
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: will be like drowning under emails that really, like community
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: relation is really one job that should not be done.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: Like people who al really have a lot of things
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: on their plate, and there is a strategy like a
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: thing on that and that that's very like complex to manage.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: So and that's that's logical. At the end of the day,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: we we have that many hours to work and you
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: have to choose your fights, and we do know that
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: we are still a little TCG and maybe one of
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: the few TCGs we've we flash n G a so
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: archive not having a brand. So and that's that's very different,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: very different. You can choose more like focused and passion
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: because they only have that medium to leave that patient,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: like if you like Style Wars and you play unlimited
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: at that school, but you can also go on the
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: couch and watch episode three if you have good taste,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: episode eight if you have less good taste, but you
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: can still like leave your passion outside of the of
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: the game for although it's very different. So so that
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: that's that's very complicated, very complicated.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: A lot of people forgive a lot for their favorite ips.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Like I've had multiple people tell me that Larkhana is
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: actually a very poorly made game, but it's Disney, so
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: they play it. Yes, Yeah, they're a lot more forgiving
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: for that.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I can appreciate the you know, prequel trilogy apologists,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: it's cool. I like episode three too. Anyway, gonna go
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: along with Dexter nobody.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: So I was wondering before the.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Everyone's had and nobody can.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: You had a lot of questions.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I did have no, no, I made an episode a
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: prequel joke and nobody understood it.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Star Wars.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Do you know what I have?
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I have seen all the Star Wars Wonder.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: Two episodes backround?
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Have you ever heard the tragedy of Blue the Wise?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Blue the Wise the Wise? All right, let's go, let's
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: go shoot.
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: I wish I was curious for in the future when
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: stores are able to order directly from you, if they're
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: able to get previous sets, and what all will be
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: available to them through the direct method with y'all.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, and no, we do have some Oh
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: my god, how to tailed things without spoiling things? I'm
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: sweating right now. It's the SACA. I'm not sure anyway,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: So right now the official word is Asthmadi is still
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: distributing the previous game and they are not going to
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: stop doing that. That's very important to know. So they
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: are going to do that. And something that I can
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: say here that I'm not usually saying in the French
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: or European things. We are going to get the game
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I think in some like equivalent of gamestops here, which
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: is good. So it's not going to be only like
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: local game stalls, but like also mainstream shops, which is
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: a good thing. And that's all as.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: Most game stops and stuff like that, so.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: We don't have an equivalent to targets. But yeah, game
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: stops I used to the most, the closest that we
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: which we have, so that's a good thing. That's a
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: very good thing. And and they will still have that.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Will we sell also the previous set? Yes, yes, also,
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: but that you will have to to see during the
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: game found and shops will have to see directly. But
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: once again, we'll not like it's not the war revest money.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Everybody's like a chill with each other, so we'll see
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: how how that goes.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: All right, follow up question to that, is there a limit?
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Is there going to be a time where you're like, hey, guys,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: no more Trial by Frost. It's sold out, We have
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: no more what it's on the market's on the market.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Is there? Do you guys have like a cutof where
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: you're like, we're not going to be printing anymore? Obviously, yes, yeah,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: And obviously the answer is yes, but like what point is.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: The same the same for all the TCGs, all the
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: video games, everything that you can find in stores when
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: the shops are like I've run out. It's either people
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: asking for it and you think that the risk of
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: producing more is fine or it's not. And for TCG,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think there is a goal to producing more.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: And the MQ so the minimum audio quantity usually are huge,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: so you want to make sure that people are willing
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: to to have that needed for all lot of gods.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and you like make me think that I
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: need to order my shadow plushes from make a beer,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to I'm going to do that right now,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: build a beer. Yes, Okay, let's go, let's continue that.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Well, before we get down the Felix's questions,
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: we actually had a question from the audience. So from
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: CAM one point zero, has there been any thought into
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: a way to support Equinox directly through some sort of
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: supporter pack for example, pay x and work with an
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: artist to get yourself on a card or anything along
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: those lines.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: No, not that, I I mean we could do that,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: We could do stuff like that, but it's the game
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: is already very close. It's a digital game, but it's
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: stills a physical game, and it's a physical game first
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: and then it's a digital game. So hold on, I'm
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: just like, okay, so we want to do something that
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: is very simple because once again we all the small team.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: So if you're doing I don't know, ten selven ducks
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: to to like have your own god, okay, but that's
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: that's not really helping the product. I mean, it's it's money,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: and that's that's cool. Money is great, But at the
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: same time, what you want is people to know about
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: the brand, if you want people to get the product
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: as much as possible. So not really, yeah, I.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: Would think the best way to support Equinox and the
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: team would be back the game found if you can
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: tell your store that you want altered and then continue
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: to like go to your organized play and invite your
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: friends and YadA, YadA.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: I mean at the end of the day. And that's
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: that's maybe a bit like not pessimistic, but a pragmatic.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm stunning out regious right now. You
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: have like shops are not managing communities because they like it.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Of course if they do, it's even better. And for
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: what I understood, the community is also committee is good,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: but at the same time, like you would not help
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: a community that is dead or like not very like working. Well,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: so we need people to know about the game. So
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: the best thing that you can do. Your shop does
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: not want to support the game, It's fine, it's their business.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: They have no way, and you have no like. I mean,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: it's not because you love the game that they have
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: to sell it. And they have to find that there
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: is strategy like advantage for them to run the game.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: So the best way is to show them that there
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: is an agence of this game and you love the
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: game and people are coming with you to play that game.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I'm like being clear on that.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I think you are like and basically like you know,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: it's shop owners, especially in the United States. I don't
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: know how it is in your area, but they're very fickle, right,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: and they need to know where their bottom line is. Right.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Running a game store is not as luxurious, and you know,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: they're not eating steak and lobster every night, right, it's
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: thin margins. It's you know, barely making it by sometimes,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: and they have to go with a game that number one,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: they know there's a community and to support for because
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: otherwise there's nothing worse than buying something and having it
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: sit on your shelf and just be wasted. Dollars, right, Yeah,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: they need to know that this is going somewhere, right,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: whether that be you coming in to support it, and
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: you know, even I've done this with a lot of games,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: go in and be like, hey, are you able to
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: get this for me?
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: If I if I pay you, will you order it
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: for me? More times than not, if if a game
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: store can get it for you and you're willing to
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: like pay them some money up front, they'll get it
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: for you. Right. They're most most game stores, not all.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have a handful out there that are just
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: kind of like jerks and they're like, I don't know,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: got to go talk to somebody. But most game stores
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: will be like, yeah, yeah, if you if you pay
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: me for it upfront, yeah, I'll buy it for you
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: and then work with them, right, and then try to
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: start that community. That's that's the biggest part right now
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: is you've got such Juggernauts out there, right, You've got
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, shoot, you've got Spider Man in Magic right now.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know how anyone in this community is beating that, right.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: I am a huge Spider Man fanboy.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, The best thing that Magic has ever done
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: is the crossover. We've Sunny the Hedgehog that that's the
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: best one.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, but whatever tickles your pickle, you know
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like whatever you're into, right, you like Sonic,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I like Spider Man. But the fact of the matter
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: is that the short and skinny is that the game
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: store has to know that, like there's a there's a
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: light at the end of the tunnel, I think is
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: what you're trying to get to, and and you need
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: to know like this isn't a lost cause I'm not
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not going to lose my store over this,
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm I am able to make a profit.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: As Cool has said, he's very against uh you know,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: the whole capitalist system of making money.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: But you know, listen, but local game stores ran by
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: local people. That's what's up.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it just kind of is what it is.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: So sometimes you just you gotta let you you have
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: to let the game store make money, right, you have
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: to because they are the ones who are number one,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: giving you a space to play. Number two, you know,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: getting you the product to play, So let them make
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit of coin off you. At the end
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: of the day, we're all here to have fun and
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: uh you know, let's local game store you eat every
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: now and again. You know, it's it's okay.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I am here solely to have fun.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: I'm also here to give Chili a really hard time
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: all the time.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, hey, to each their own, right, like
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: you do, you like, there's nothing against that, but you know.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: It's it's just about the friends that you piece along
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: the way. That's the thing.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: And here's here's the deal. I'll be one hundred percent
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: honest with everyone here right now. Key Forge, right, I
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: played key Forge since it's originally started.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, played pretty early on too.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Yep. If it was not for the people that I
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: have met and the relationships I have forged, no pun intended,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: you know, if it's not for all the people that
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I have met along the way, spent time with, gone
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: drinking with. I mean, these are these are people that
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: I've literally spent I don't know how many hours with
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: hanging out with them, going to the bar, having multiple
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: drinks up till four o'clock in the morning, you know,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: talking about non key you know, just life right, Like
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things where I don't know
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: if I'd still be in key Forge, but I.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Would not be if it were not for the people
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: I made friends with.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Made so many good friendships along the way, and it's
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: all revolves around this. I will. I am the first
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: one to tell you I don't play games to actually
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: play games. I play games for drinking, right, Like, that's
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: that's really why I go to Keyfarge events, because that's
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: really because I normally I'm not a heavy drinker. But
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, when Vault tours or key Forde
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: celebration come around, you see a different side of the Wookie,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: and it only comes out like quarterly, So get your
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: cameras out for those of you with flash photography, you
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: won't be seeing us again for another four months.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Oh well, I mean, I'm sure that Calls has a
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: lot of story about me being drunk to tell people
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: which is not going to tell people.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Believe he's never told us never.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, because he knows that instantly he we were
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: received on all accounts that he owns pictures of the
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Walden's feet. Yeah, again and again and again.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: So if you, if Wookie and Deck start fine with it,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: I'll kind of pick through feeling his questions because.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I've ad it. I saw a few of that kind
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: of I'm like, aret really important, but there's a couple
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: in there that I would I would say, I've.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Seen the least we can. We can we can do them.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Oh that's fine.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: Okay, cool. Well before before we get to that, more
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: railroading and meming, because that's what we're known for. You
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: missed one very important thing, lookie, when you were describing
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: why you play TCGs. Oh, you mentioned friends, drinking, all
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: of that, but you forgot to mention saving each other
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: from from fangirls. Yes, yeah, no, you were. You were
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: on the right.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Track saving each other. I don't know if I've ever
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: been fangirled over. There was that one time a junk
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: him and there was about.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: It that one time.
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: One time.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was necessarily a fangirl, because
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, she didn't know who I was. She just
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: liked my ghost, She liked my Sasquatch shirt with I
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: was wearing a shirt and I had a bunch of
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: as Squatch was wearing a flamingo floaty.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: Yes, and she didn't have to be a fan of
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: your work, but she was definitely a fan of you.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, so you know, nobody's really a fan of my
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: work because my work sucks.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: But you're pretty sure that Loki's fangirls are not really
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: fans of his work but more just a fan of Loki.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: So you never know, you never know.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean at this point, I think it's
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: just a love age relationship. Uh we with the community.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I think that that that that that couple that I
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: like that we're all seeing every time a gen cone. Yeah. Yeah,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: that's the very example of like people just like enjoy,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: they enjoy, like really genuinely. I think, like discussing with me,
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: but I'm like, I'm just making silly jokes and maybe
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: maybe slightly because that's that's not my style, but slightly
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: offensive jokes. So I do not know. I do not
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: know if I'm I'm that popular.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of the really offensive jokes that way,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: you really you know, but like you know that's me.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but you know that that that's also that's
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: my job. If I if i start saying, hey, when
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: are the worlds for next year, and I'm starting to
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: post everywhere just as just ask your mom, I'll be
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: I'll be in trouble. I'll be in trouble.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe so maybe yeah, some of us will think it's
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: the greatest thing ever.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I have witnessed both sides of people not
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: understanding Loki's personality, so I can attest to that. The couple. Yeah,
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: shout out to Lindsay and Kyle. Great people. But a
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: guy trying can go to hell or I think he
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: already lives there in Baltimore.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: So questions Mark Jackson went down roll anyway, moving on.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: What will the onboarding of new players look like post
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: Asthma day will it be different?
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: So on boarding you need products to unbut people, so
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: there will be new started decks or fully shops will
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: have them. Alrighty, no, you told me plus Asthma d
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: so pus guy.
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, post guy. There will be more.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Five yeah, yeah, okay, there will be There'll be new
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: stut decks so that that will be one of the
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: first way to uh to unbut people. Then you have you,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: like all he said, will be able to help people
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: join the game. There will be more bg A obviously
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: like we you may have seen and that that was
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: painful to watch or but we've done. Yesterday Alive on
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: the French YouTube with one of the good like TCG
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: influencer and because bg A just opened the demo decks,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: nobody was there. All those people were just playing the
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: game and it was off the people of that were
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: usually there that were playing the game. So we know
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: that that is working well. So more BG or demodex
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: and BGA that would be our way to earn more people.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I've seen a lot of people asking for
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: more audetising. Uh that cost a lot and one of
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: the one of the things that is very difficult. I'm
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: going to like sidetrack a bit here. We've all community
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: job is measuring the return on investment that you're doing.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: And you were talking about the clubs, like like people
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: creating a club and playing playing outside. Okay, I'm sending
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: them three hundred dollars of product. Am I ever going
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: to receive back that money? Yeah they will be happy,
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: and yeah they will be playing, But will they be
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: spending more? Will they be onboarding people that are going
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: to be spending more, Because at the end of the day,
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: once again that's I'm not going to quote the joker,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: but we live in a society in which we need
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: to make money. So you need to make sure that
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: everything that you are doing. They have a rettonal investment,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: and that's the same thing for me being in convention,
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: is me going into convention going to create something that
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: will make people spend more money. Will they be happy
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: to have like spend time with me and say, hey,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: I'm getting to buy a display because that was very
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: cool and I'm very hyped and I want something so that.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: That's always something that you want to do. So on
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: boarding advertising, not sure all the rest like we've done positively, Yes, yeah.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: I think the convention thing is a very interesting question
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: to tackle, and of course it's something that I am
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: also passionate about because I've done every convention I possibly
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: can with altered and it's always great to talk to
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: the team, But the metrics of success that you can
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: actually quantify are really hard for conventions. Some part of it,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: so I guess at that, but we're all going to
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: start a petition to have at least LOKI at all
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: the major conventions next year.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's a question of money, and honestly, if
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: I could, I would just go to backsun Plugged, but
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: that will be meaning finding somebody that is willing to
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: pay almost three thousand dollars to meet there.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: Got it yet?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: It me and my unemployed self.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, So that that's very complicated, But I
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: do think and that's that's why I I.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Was not always working on marketing. I have backed around
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: in network engineering, so that that's whatever I was doing
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: in the past for like ten years, and then I
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: went to marketing. I'm very like passion about the feeling
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: and building that relationship between a brand and it's committee.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: That's something that I love and I love like driving
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: and helping those people thrive in the passion that they have.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: And most of the time I would not work for
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: something that I do not like share this passion with
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: them like I probably love altered as much as you do.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: In ways I cannot explain because I will end up
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: in prison. But anyway, that's something that is very important,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: and I do think in my like thirty six years
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: of existence, most of the brands that have been the
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: most passionate about is because I have some points in
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: time in which I met people on the team. I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: remember three, two and thirteen that Space three was about
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: to be released, and I've done a costume of the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: main protagonists from that Space two and one of the
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: developers recognized me and I was wearing a costume for
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: under the brand, and he just went to me and
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: he insrudces me to the game director and say, hey,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: this guy is one of us. And just for that,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: I know that I will be loving that brand until
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: the end of my old days. And I got a
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: tattoo of that game, just because it reminds me something
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: that was very positive, something in which I felt good.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: And I do think this kind of moment is what
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: you want to build with your brand, and that's something
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: that is outside of opening a booster. And I think
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: it's very that the relationship between you and what is
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: basically god board and that is outside of everything. It's
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: meeting people, and it's meeting the game, and it's having
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: like genuine human connection with that game. And I do
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: think that even if it cannot be quantified me being
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: in convention talking to people, maybe for some people just
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: the third thing they need to not drop the game
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: or to invest themselves more in I'm going to give
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: you an example. I know that I'm talking a lot
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: much more than I was expecting to, but I got
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: a private message two weekends ago from a community member
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I've never told that to anybody except my wife. That
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: person was very upset because there was a BGA tournament
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: ongoing in Asia and they did not see the invite
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: for that the way to subscribe. So I was like, okay,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: it's Saturday morning. It's the end of the alterno for
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: you because you live in Australia. Okay, I'm going to
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: check what is happening. And I saw that it was
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: just the final phases of the the qualifiers for Asia,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: and I told him that, and you went from being
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: to be honest kind of rude, and honestly, I almost
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: not answered that because I was like, okay, dude, it's
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: ten am and you're being totally shitty to me. And
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: one hour later we were discussing and joking about, Hey,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: so no, you did not miss the A and BG.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: It's going to be next week and you have to
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: qualify because right now I'm not accepting your excuses. You
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: have to win. And then you go to friends and
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: you present those excuses you or your apologies, you tell
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: them yourself to me in October and that's that's the
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: moment that person lost and was not qualified to come.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: Because I think it's tricks as we want, but anyway,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: just that kind of connection you are feeling, that that
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: close connection with the game, and that's at the end
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: of the day. I think it's what drives us from
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: the human like perspective more than competing or anything. And
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: that's why most of the competitors are now now in
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: teams because they share this. So that kind of sharing.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: I love that and I think that's one of the
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: things that is the most important thing. And yes, I
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: would love to go to unplug even if it's just
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: to sit on a free game table and just play
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: with people. But yeah, budget and shit, so probably not going.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: That was long.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: It was very very well said, and I mostly so
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: that kind of answer is the question, to the best
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: of the ability for what happens next year. Yeah, Hacks
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: Unplugged did put out like a little information for this year,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: and it does mention altered and I've already seen like
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: two or three people not read it fully. From my understanding,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 4: there will be no more conventions that altered will be
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: at at least in the United States for the rest
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: of this year. Is that correct?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: I have no idea, to be honest, I have no
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: idea because I don't even know where I'll be going
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: up until the end of the year. Sometimes I'm going
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: to Essence sometimes as I'm not same for Luca Comics,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: I have no idea. It's a bit of a weird
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: situation because ASTHMI is working on set four, so obviously
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: they are promoting the game, but at the same time
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: they are not going to be distributing the upcoming set,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: and fifteen of October, the day in which we're gain
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: to show more about this is during the life time
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Upset four, so it's it's a lot of different things
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: at the same time. And I honestly I do not
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: know if you your sales guys have any contacts in asthmody,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: please ask them to just like do an auto booth
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: and just with me. I'll be very happy with that.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Just to meet all of knife on the oles that
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: will be that'll be great.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can honestly try and ask because I can
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: say from my side, the hiring notices just went out
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: and Altered is not listed as a game that will
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: be demoed or judged, So I definitely worth asking though.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: But we'll see and well, we'll keep everyone updated, but
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: to not keep you too long this This question, I
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: know is very hard. Has the focus in the US
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: markets changed and what is Equinox's approach to expanding in
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: the US?
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: They focus has not changed. So I'm going to how
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: how people are going to react in the States to
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: the game. Found will be shops or players will be
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: a good indicators like is the game going to sell well?
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: That will be a good like indicative for us to say, hey, yeah,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: the game was like not dying, but in some local
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: places not going well on just not presents, but there
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: is a willing willingness to people to get the game
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: like going. So that will be the first indicator that
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: we can get and that will be very important. We
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: do know that you guys have a huge country. I'm
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: keeping that example that just a soldiers during gen Con,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: but the size of the US is such that the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: distance between the East coast and the West coast is
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: basically Perish to Moscow, and US going to Moscow is
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: something that is very far. So knowing that we do
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: know that online game is going to be helping, We
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: do know that delving the game directly to you will
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: be helping, So we do hope that those things are
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: going to be helping and powering the shop directly through
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: US will be helping. So that's Equinox's approach to like
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: expanding in the US ere right.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Now and not I'm just going to say it, not
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: with Asthma Day is going to help. No offense, I mean, yeah,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: you can't that, but I will tell you in the States, yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: The biggest thing like as soon as you're like, yeah,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: can you get this game for me? And almost always
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: it's yeah, not a problem, Yeah, who do I go through?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: And you're like, well, Asthma Day, And then there's always
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: the h you always get that heard kind of corone
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: and it's kind of like, uh yeah, and there there
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: are plenty of shop owners. I will tell you that
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: as soon as you say the word Asthma Day, the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: answer is no, I can't get it. I don't work
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: with them. So, to be honest with you, I was
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: very excited for this because I was like, oh, some
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: of those shops that told me no, I might not
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: say no now, but you know, it's just one of
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: those things of how how it works here.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: Well, when I first pitched and Cole cannot say that
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: he knows what he does. When I pitched a few
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: things about the game. The game found in everything to
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: some people from the new Masubi that are going to
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: be announced soon. The reaction for people in the US
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: where two things, mostly Wow, no Mara smody so cool,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: and then it was WHOA will be back plush and
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: you're like, okay, okay, great, thank you guys for your input.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: That is very valuable. H but yeah, we we we
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: do know that it was it was a pain point
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: and with such a huge country and well it's typicult,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: so so that that's good that people be able to
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: get the product directly from US. I do think that
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: is going to be helping duet to things.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: I think that's a huge advantage is now I can
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: be like, go to this portal right wherever that ends
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: up being, I don't know, but regardless, it doesn't really matter.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: As long as it's not an Asthmadi website. They're like,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: you know, They're like, oh, yeah, sure, you know, and
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: then we can go from there. Obviously, we'll see, we'll
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: see how how said game star feels about it. At
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: that point, I'm sure it won't be an issue. But
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: now that the uh the A word is no longer involved,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: we might be able to make some progress in a
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: few areas.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: We'll see. Ye. Next question, let's end in the twelve
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: next minute, so I can. I'm like seven hours of
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: sleep before going to via VR shooting game.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Yea, one more good one, one more good one. Let's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: see what we.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: Can one one bad, one one bad.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: As as we can. I'll just uh talk less that
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: I was okay, let's.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, important question. How many people on staff have a
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: foot fetish?
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: Oh jeez, is that in there? I missed that one completely.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: No, that's not a cool No, I know he was
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: goal where I was joking about someone else on the discold.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: So I don't think anybody in the team just one.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: You know who you are?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: No, I mean I there are two things that I hate.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: I hate feet and I hate karaoke. That's karaoke I hate.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: I just hate karake. We've passioned. That's two things. Yeah. Yeah, anyway,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: next question, Uh, so.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: Any new mythologies the Altered team is looking to explore
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: would be awesome. And to see more Latin American gods,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: even if it's more of a touch from Puerto Rico.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: This next that has some Maori gods and influences. And
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: then of course Beowulf is what English?
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know, not Viking.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: I do not have four books on a bookshelf in
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 5: my house and I've never read it perfect.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Do you even know that? That was very important information
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: that we just gave us. Thank you, Thank you for
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: that I.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: Have four books. I just wanted to.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Let you know. Yeah, but can you can you read?
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Actually nope, I don't know how to read. Yeah, a
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: hell in a while ago.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: Stop drinking that that will be better for you anyway.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: So I do not know everything because there are two things.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: One thing is even though I can see the oughts
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: for two set six, I'm just a Frenchman. I do
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: not have a lot of culture, so I may not
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: recognize mythology from people and that I do not know about.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: I do know that we are going to revisit some
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: that we have seen before, so Anubis is going to
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: have friends in upcoming sets. For the rest, I do
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: not know specifically about Latin American gods. Sorry. Yeah.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: Yoshi actually has a very very good answer to like
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: the whole you know, representation and mythologies in Altered on
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: the Hero's Guide to as Gartha podcast, He did, we
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: we have to get our one shell out per episode
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: so that they pay me.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean they are a much better podcasts
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: than this one, Saul.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: Yep, yep. So next question, any future collaboration ideas brewing
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: and what will you torture call with for the next year?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, next question, how much has.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: The team grown from last year, which is for me
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: a sad question, but I'll let you answer.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, the team has grown negatively.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: I mean that's when you start the project like the
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: one you have right now, with so many things that
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: you need to do and deliver, you do not always
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: know the man power that you're going to need. And
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: there are sometimes in which shares a lot of rush,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: and there is a lot of things to do, and
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: there are a lot of priorities. So at some point
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: you can see that you can merge some jobs or
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: simply stuff evolved. For example, the team was very different
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: when we were just finishing the game and shipping the
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: KICKSTARTO that it is right now in which we have
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: a cycle that is already said and then we just
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: have to iterirate on that cycle, I mean for production
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: for everything. Uh So some jobs were open, some jobs
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: were closed, but I think we are Yeah, we have.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: We have. It's really really weird actually because we have
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: so many new jobs. For example, when we did the kickstarto,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: we did not have any supports team, and now we do.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: We did not have somebody that was focused on the production.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: We had somebody that was only dedicated to transliding the
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: God and now it's the doing that. So the team
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: devel a lot and we are actually, yeah, we are
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: a bit fewer uh than than we used to to
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: be right after the costato.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, can can you call one person a team? Just
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: a question?
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: One a team? Yeah?
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 4: You said you have a support team.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, well, I'm the community team.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: They all help them support.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's true. And when you look at
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: some tcg's team, we are almost more stuffed than they are. Yeah.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: I I just had to throw some spice in there
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: so that people don't think I'm just a paid hill
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: And you know, I'll let Simon be the Equinomics boot liquor.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: So yeah, that that is technically the end of our questions.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: But anything you want to be as about or let
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: people know or tell.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: Us, you have five minutes if you have any questions.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: That's that's a very moment I do not have it
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: like anything to say what I'm what I can say
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: because I've told you guys several times, sober and drunk,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: there is something very different about the the US community
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: in respect to the to the community in Europe. Not
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: all the people obviously, but like for example, people that
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: I know I've heard him from. But from a community standpoint,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: my experiences in convention in the US has been much
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: cooler than keep trying a guy trying but not you.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: But people have been like cooler and modchill and more
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: focused on having fun with the game. Uh. And for example,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: every time that I've met people willing to get that luck,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: you know, explain that people are so much up here
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: in the US when they get it. Even though for
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: the bus battle there is less Q in the US
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: than there is in Europe. In Europe, queues for the
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: bus battle are like hours long. In the US. Usually
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: if you just come to see me, you'll be able
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: to play if I'm here, if I'm not in the
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: convention buying shit. So it's yeah, I feel like it's
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: it's always a good experience, and I know that I
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: would love to do all the convention in the US.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: I know that One of the questions from from Felix
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: that we have not answered was the US being to
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: the convention, especially the le duc Q's in the future.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: I wish, I wish because I do love being there
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: and justin us taught me so much about just the US. Yeah,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: I feel more that like family life when I when
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: I'm there, So thank you for that that I can
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: tell you. And yes, we recruited somebody from the support team,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: so nice.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, choice, Yeah, you don't have to deal with easy.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: When you go to the extension and you're going to
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: buy stuff, where are you first? Where are you first going?
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: What is what is your I'm buying that? Pick a choice?
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: Is it? Do you have a game plan or do
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: you mill about first?
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: When I go to convention specifically, or when I go
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: to a specific city.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Like when you're going to gen Con, you're like, I'm
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: going to buy stuff? Is it I'm poking around and
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: that looks cool, so I'll pick that up? Or are
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: you like, I'm I'm going to this specific boove to
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: pick this up right now?
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: So when I go to gen Con, my battle plan
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: is always not to go to convention first and go
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: to a topic first. That's where I'll be going, because
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: that will be according to the choice of T shirts
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: and goodies that they have. Will be deciding the budgets
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: that I have for the rest of the convention. And
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: then once that is done, it's usually like goodies that
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: I could not find. So like, for example, I bought
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff for myself in Swokee from a
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: uver boss. I've bought a lot of game genic accessories,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: and obviously I'm buying a lot of stuff from Amazon
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: that I get delivered at the hotel, which also decide
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: the rest of my budget for for the rest of
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: the convention. So I do. I do have some specific
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: books booths that I love to go to. God for example,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: is a Pins booth that that I love. Uh But yeah,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: every every convention is different, but I do have a
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: battle plan for each of them. Nice.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: It's important to note that there's no hot topic in France.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: Because I told someone that your first stop is hot
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: topic and you live in the US, they would severely
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: judge you.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the same way if you someone in Japan
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: that you are that you always love to go to uniqueloth,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: they will be making fun of you because that's something
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: that is very like cheap for them.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: Unique Cloth is no like my new favorite shop because
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: their T shirts are a little taller than usual and
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: super great quality. I'm literally wearing a Unique Low Demon
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  Speaker 4: shirt right now.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just nude with my event. Can play matt
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  Speaker 2: on myself just in case.
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  Speaker 4: Show me those pictures later.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Anyways, Maybe not that quick one, but I'll give you
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: a box you could drop some stuff off to, you know.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: Final final question because Wookie's question made me think of it.
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  Speaker 4: What was the best dish you had while visiting the
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: US for altered specifically, so like the last.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: Year best dish? Screw that? What's the best alcohol you
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: had in the States?
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  Speaker 4: Why not both?
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  Speaker 2: You said the best dish.
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  Speaker 4: That's like the best thing you a My god, Oh
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  Speaker 4: for me, I'm still chasing the high of that ramen
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  Speaker 4: from Meta in Boston.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was one of the good thing.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: But it is very difficult because it's some moments that
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: I've shared with people, specifically the one we went to
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: with you Moon and Simon where yeah, you let me
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: drink that picture on my own, but that that was
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: one of the the phone memory that I have and
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: things like that first time that we went to uh
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: to the MATCHA one when I got to spend more
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: time with Blue Waters A good memory. But I do
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: think that one of the personal memory, like not related
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: to Altered, was the time I spent in Phoenix. When
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: I arrived, I just put everything in the in the
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: hotel and then I and I was on my own.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: It was one of the first time that I was
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: traveling for equinogues on my own in the city that
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't know, and I was like, okay, I'm going
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: to just create that map of things that I want
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: to do. And I went to Target to buy Sonic stuff,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: and then I took a break and I went to
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: In and Out and I just fucking love In and Out.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: And it was the last time I went to In
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: and Out was in twenty twelve, so it had been
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: like thirteen years. Culvers, I mean to each star own
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: like you said, but yeah, I was that very moment
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: in which I was like, Okay, I love this game.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: I love that community. I am the only French guest
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: to that event in in this game and stuff, and
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: I still give my stuff gamers Guild. I'm still wearing
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: the game a gig games, yeld T shirt most of
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: the time and still playing with the first part token.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: I just love that shop. I love Aaron. I just
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: love the time that I spent there. And yeah, that
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: very afternoon on my own, just going to shops in
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: a culture that I love and eating some food that
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: I was craving for thirteen years. That was a very
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: like personal feeling. And being a different time zone, it's
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: like you just left all of the you just leave
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: all of the bad things, all the things on another
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: time zone and you just like focus on the time
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: right now. And that that was. That was a good moment.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: That was.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: That was a good moment for me. I enjoyed that,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: even though yeah, I did not meet all the usual
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: people that I'm usually meeting, uh, but that that was.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: That was a great personal moment that I spent with myself.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to say that in an out burger,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: even though some of the meat I have eaten in
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: the US, I'm sorry, gold, but that's what I'm going
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: to was was some of the best thing that I had.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 4: As for alcohol, Wookie doesn't know that you're basically a
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: sake somalier. Is there anything outside of sake that you've
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 4: had here that you really liked.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, you ever had alort?
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: Oh god, please never have.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: I have two things to say, uh while, Okay, I'm
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: going to say the first one because I think it's
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: it's more an emotional one. But the uh, the picture
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: that we got on that time with with Moon and
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Simon was was good. It was actually good. And then
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to drop that because it's exactly the truth.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: But I would say go that the blow jobs that
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: were given to us were very good. Yeah yeah, oh oh.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, oh yeah, oh yeah I did not have one,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 4: but yes, I got what you're saying.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: Oh you did, Yeah, you did not blow jobs? So yeah,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: that that was Yeah, if they me at some point
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: you you just listen to this, please give us more
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: blow jobs. That that was. That was amazing. That was
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: a good night. That was a good night. Uh yeah.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: Which which other cocktail? I think the margarita was was
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: pretty good in that bar, which was a total failure
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: from my initial plan. But yeah, okay, I do love
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: the chat reaction to that.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: It's a drink. It's a drink.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a good cocktail.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: We name things weird to hear like just we also
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: have something like nipple. Don't read too much into it.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 4: Well, it was just it was just some dudes and
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: some friends at a table and you know, they had
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 4: some blow jobs and got a bunch of white stuff.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 4: All their faces.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: Are weird stuff.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 4: I will not hold you any longer, but I really
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 4: appreciate you coming to talk with us and working it out,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: especially because I I know how busy you are and
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: it is seven hours ahead for anyone in the US.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 4: That's okay. This is another question, I I I anyone
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 4: in the US who's coming to the world. Is there
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: any any like pro tips you have for them? Anything
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 4: you would love to see? Do you what do you
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: want from people going to worlds?
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: In Paris? It's very difficult to recommend things in a
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: city that you spend most of your time with.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: Now what do you what do you want from them?
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: What do you want them? Do you want them to
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: you know, cosplaye give you high fives, bring you sonic blushes.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: I will accept all kinds of briberries that that's fine.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: You can bribe me all you want. Yeah, I do
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: want to meet people. And one of the things that
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say dislike, but I think a
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: bit like a bit of shame, uh is that some
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: people I do remember your nicknames on the discord, like
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: if we interacted one of one or two times. Usually
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: I do remember people. So most of the time people
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: when they come and chat with me and they do
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: not tell me who they are, Uh, to be sad.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: Just come and say hello, tell me who you are,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: tell me something that you remember from the discord, and
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: let's chat. I mean, that's uh, first and foremost, that's
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: what I'm paid for. But also that's what I like.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: So just just don't be shy. Just come in and chill.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, definitely say your discord name, because I will not
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 4: know who the hell you are otherwise. And I've had
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: people like message me on BJ like oh we met
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 4: in Dallas, and I'm like, yay, great to see you.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah all the time, all the time.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: All right, are we good now, calen we closer shut
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: her down?
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I can make some pizza. Yeah, everyone
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: in France can go to sleep. Thanks the live audience here.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: Everybody, audience. First, I got a shill for some dollars
• 1:34:03
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• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: a dollar, right so that he can finally go to sleep.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: So he can be always go jobs wearing friends.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: That's right, somebody's got are you?
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: Are you leaving something here at the end? Am I no,
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: I'll let Loki say it again.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you can pay for your blowjobs in France.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That seems like a personal question. You
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: guys can talk about.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: Later, all right, go ahead, lookie, so make sure you head.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: Over to the Patreon every Tuesday. You guys can get
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: the episode early and then make sure you head over
• 1:34:38
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• 1:34:42
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• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: With that being said, I think we're all done here.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: Hmm.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: We will see you all next week. Well not me,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: not you, not well, we'll brook. We rehired Felix within this.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: Last hour, so I'm sorry. That's great.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta go back to building the game we
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: all play. Get to it.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: Thank you, guys, thank you.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you everybody. Thanks Luki. I'll see you
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: all later.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: John John
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  Speaker 3: M.