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LIVE from Nuuk,Greenland: Yan Olsen from Ave Europa on Trumps Greenland Claims-Greenland is European · Gunther Fehlinger Podcast

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  Good morning. This is the Gunter Failing a
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  podcast. We are here now with a very
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  special guest, Jan Olson, who is from Abe Ihopa and he is in a
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  very special place now and it's a sensational thing to say from
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  Nuke in Greenland. I'm so happy that you are there
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  and also part because you are Danish, I guess, to make a
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  symbol of ownership and of Europeanness of Greenland.
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  And that's really wonderful. We are very interested to hear
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  how Nuke is, what's the situation and to express our
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  solidarity with Greenland and the people of Greenland.
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  And please Yan, present yourself again with your positions in
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  Other and also why are you in Nuke and what we need to do to
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  support Nuke and Greenland now? Thank you, Grantor, and thank
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  you for having me. Yeah.
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  Among many things, I am a head of strategy and other the pan
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  European political movement. I am in Nuke currently and have
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  been for quite some time, partly because I have family up here
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  and also partly because I'm working on some critical
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  infrastructure projects right now in the telco space.
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  With more and more people coming up here, obviously we're going
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  to need telecommunication. The situation in Nuke this
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  morning is cold as always. I guess so.
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  Dark, as always. The sun is not only up at 10 at
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  6:00, it's calm. I mean, everybody is obviously
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  worried with this crazy interest from Donald Trump, but it's
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  calm. Everybody has seen the plane
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  starting to land and you know, the sweets getting off, the
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  Norwegians getting off. The French has told us that they
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  have a frigate on the way. The Germans obviously too.
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  So we're sort of waiting for the Austrians to show.
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  But the. Austin Navy will come.
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  No, I mean, people are, people are worried and rightfully so.
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  Yes, this is crazy, you know. I expressed my full solidarity
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  with Greenland and with Denmark and of course with the people
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  living there, because now suddenly out of a quiet and calm
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  normal life and they're in the middle of this global storm.
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  And that must be very disturbing for our friends up there.
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  Yeah, I mean, lots of my colleagues here says, and I have
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  trouble sleeping and everything else.
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  But at the same point in time, I, I think compared to a couple
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  of weeks ago when it really started and now where all the
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  European NATO nations are saying no way we're supporting this, we
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  will defend this till the end. We always knew the Danish army
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  which are here with defenders no matter what everybody talks
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  about the oh, they get to shoot straight away.
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  And it's like that's not new. We've had this since 1951 in
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  case somebody attacks our soldier.
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  It's just common sense. But the fact that everybody from
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  Germany to France are starting to show up and like Mahong said
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  yesterday, he will send Navy assets, he will send people, but
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  probably most important, he will also send planes.
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  So my bet is my hope is he will send a couple of nuclear armed
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  Rafael's and that should end the story, yes.
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  Yeah, I think that Mister Trump should also focus on Iran,
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  Venezuela, Ukraine. There's so much you can do good
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  in the world and change from tyranny to freedom.
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  It's really not totally unnecessary to have this storm
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  above Greenland. And it's like.
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  It's crazy and you put it into perspective, yes.
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  I mean I've travelled a lot in this country as part of the job
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  and there are closed down US bases all over the place.
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  There used to be 19 bases and about 50 odd installations in
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  total. There's speedofic up north by
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  two layer. What people call 2 layer base is
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  the only thing left. There's 200 people up there.
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  There used to be 15,000 soldiers here and I was like the the
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  treaty says come back anytime, bring what you want.
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  So that's a lie. The mining laws in Greenland was
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  put in place in 1965. There has never been an American
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  mining company here. The Canadians came, the regions
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  came, the Swedes are here. I even think some Austrians was
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  here at some point in time. And a little bit of mining is
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  taking place. But it's like being in northern
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  Sweden. Yes, it's not easy.
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  It's super hard. There's no infrastructure.
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  We're really far away. This is not nearly as close as
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  Donald Trump thinks. You know, we're 4 hours flight
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  from New York and we're 4 hours flight from Copenhagen.
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  So it's it may look easy on a map.
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  This is really far away. So it's nonsense.
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  And as you said, I mean, 10,000 killed civilians in Tehran and
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  the other places in the last few days.
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  Could you spend some time on that?
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  I mean, do one good thing in your entire life instead of
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  threatening this place. I mean, come on.
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  Exactly. Exactly.
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  And this military base in Tulip up there in the north of
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  Greenland, to my best knowledge, it's in very big disrepair and
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  the Americans could easily send more troops and invest more
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  money into upkeeping and modernizing this base.
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  Also in forms of telecommunication.
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  In CNN they reported it's not even wireless connectivity in
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  that base and the poor American soldiers are totally neglected.
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  While on the media escape Trump is talking everyday about
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  Greenland, in reality he's doing nothing for his own soldiers up
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  there. Now, The funny thing is actually
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  because part of the project I work on is about bringing faster
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  Internet and mobile telephony to the entire island and replacing
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  the system. There is everybody here.
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  We have a village as small as 20 people.
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  They have satellite Internet, they have mobile telephony and
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  everything else, but the American government doesn't want
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  us to install it at their base. That's why the phones doesn't
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  work there and they live in the 3rd century because you could
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  easily get it the the the neighboring village has good
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  mobile coverage, it's not a problem.
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  So it's not that Denmark is neglecting Greenland in terms of
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  modernity and connectivity. No, it did.
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  Did makes no sense. As a matter of fact, one of the
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  other projects that's coming now is next year is a sea cable,
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  second sea cable of along the entire coast connecting more
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  villages further north. And the as part of the military
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  defense budget that was passed in November, there will be a
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  second sea cable all the way from Denmark in 29 that will
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  actually also it's a military cable, although there will be
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  civilian traffic in it. But that cable stretches the
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  entire way over the North Atlantic.
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  And it's no secret is of course, intended to have certain
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  intelligence gathering capabilities so we can see where
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  the submarines are and all this other stuff.
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  So yeah, Denmark is doing something.
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  That's a 5.3 billion investment, yes.
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  He's just talking Danish dollars, so in dollars.
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  Or in Danish Crown, so we are up in it's about a billion dollars,
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  a little bit short say $800 million to lay the cable and
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  establish plus infrastructure up here and you know new data
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  centers and everything that's being built so.
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  So, you know, explain a little bit our international audience,
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  because that's always one of the questions.
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  What exactly is the relation of Greenland and Denmark?
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  Why is Greenland not full member of the European Union?
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  And what is the what are the issues and what are the
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  subsidies Denmark is giving to Greenland?
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  And we need to understand that a bit better because it's such a
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  hot political potato, but we want to learn about it.
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  What are the facts and what can be improved as well?
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  Yeah, so the Danes arrived really as or the Scandinavians
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  arrived, you know, back in 600 with Eric the Red and whatever
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  and colonized it up here and was farming for hundreds and
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  hundreds of years. They die out around 1100, if, if
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  I'm correct, malnutrition, quite frankly.
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  But let's also be honest, if Donald's argument is wherever
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  you got first, where the boat belongs to you, well, we got to
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  North America, you know, 400 years before the Spanish guy,
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  just to be clear. Or if you argument.
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  Next America. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  Or his argument was the other way around, where he says, well,
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  you know, just because you got here first with a boat and I was
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  like, Donald, how the hell did your parents get to America with
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  a boat? Yes.
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  So your argument is basically give it back to the Indians.
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  I think we can all agree that seems fair to leave.
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  Yes. It's crazy, but Long story
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  short, the Inuits moved in, you know, a couple of 100 years
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  after the Viking died out in the 12th century, 11th century, and
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  it's been living here ever since.
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  The Danes came back a couple of 100 years ago, established trade
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  stations, put up schools and everything else.
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  And in the beginning, it was really trade, you know, the
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  sealskins, ivory, Tusk, this type of thing from the walruses.
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  Obviously, at some point in time when after the after the second
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  war, where we also get the Social Security systems in
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  Denmark, they decided up here to invest a lot, build modern.
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  Yeah, pretty or not, concrete fab houses give everybody access
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  to schools. Everybody learned Danny's and
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  Green Lantic at the same point in time.
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  You get to study for free. The doctors came here and
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  everything else and sort of in the 50s moved away from the, you
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  know, traditional Inuit society, although a lot of that still
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  happens. I mean, my for my sister was up
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  here as a nurse for a number of years.
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  My niece is Greenlandic. Her now they're divorced, but
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  from a husband is a he's a hunter.
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  That's what he does. Kellarock is 310 years per year
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  in a boat, hunting, fishing, whales and whatever.
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  So Fast forward to 1979, the Greenland experience, they said
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  we would like independence. Independence in the sense of
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  saying we would like self government governance.
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  So the Danes being where we are, decided on that.
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  And basically the law says that they have a right to full
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  independence if they ask for it to be approved by the Danish
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  parliament. And then in the law there is a
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  series of services like schools or postal office, you know
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  everything that basically takes to run a society.
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  And they could choose what they would want to home source
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  because once they home source something, they have to pay for
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  it. So education here in principle
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  till the Universal high School is paid by the Green Landing
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  government. The hospitals up here are
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  controlled by them, although if you have something that they
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  don't have doctors for here, you automatically go to Denmark.
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  We pay for that primarily. What they don't have today,
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  foreign policy is still under us, although they have, as you
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  seen Vivian, who represented them.
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  So every single time that the Danish Minister of Foreign
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  Affairs goes somewhere, she goes along for meetings and whatever,
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  just like happened in Washington 2 days ago.
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  So technically speaking, right now the courts are run and paid
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  for by Denmark. The police still, although there
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  are lots of, when we're saying paid for, that means that the
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  source area still have somebody sitting in Denmark actually
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  controlling that and we pay all the salaries.
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  But you know, probably 40% of the policemen in this country
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  are Greenlandic who went to Denmark, went to the Danish
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  police Academy and so on and so forth.
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  There are Greenlandic judges. I know a couple, but it's part
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  of the Danish state system. It's not.
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  They can't change the law up here saying do this with the
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  police, for example. That has to go through the
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  Danish parliament. They are represented in the
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  Danish parliament too. Defense is obviously on.
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  Those how many seats they have in the Danish parliament, is it
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  like a? Two.
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  No, they have two, just like the Faroe Islands has basically the
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  same arrangement. Yes, So formally.
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  Two of them are from Greenland. Yeah.
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  So they vote internally about who gets to take those seats and
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  there is some rules around when certain things is related to
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  dangerous domestic policies. Those votes generally don't
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  participate in some of, and so on and so forth, but they
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  represent they they work as an integrated part of.
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  The thing European federalism, they are like a region of
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  Denmark, similar like Bavaria is of Germany or Tairoli is of
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  Austria. Yeah, well, maybe with a little
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  bit bigger, you know, home rule or something like that.
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  So the main difference is in 79 they decided to not join the
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  European Union or the EU as we originally did.
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  So that's why they sit outside the.
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  EU explain me, because that's a bit for me the one of the source
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  of the problems here, because the Americans blame you, you
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  even don't have them fully in the EU.
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  And then they have a bit of a case then they say it's not
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  really in and the status is unclear because if the Greenland
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  would be fully in the European Union, if the euro is the
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  currency and fully inside our regulatory system and then the
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  case I think would be absolutely towards 0 to change any status.
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  And, and, and I agree with you. Well, you know, many mistakes
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  were made by our parents. Let's put it that way on both
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  sides, to be honest. Yes, we, we didn't treat them
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  well. We did, we did certain things in
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  the 50s on the medical side that maybe would, would, you know,
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  but that was what you did back then.
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  It's not 9, it's not 2025 You did back and we did some clear
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  mistakes. We have apologized for that.
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  Maybe it's not as much as I would like.
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  As my brother-in-law reminds me once in a while, because he's a
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  very proud Grand Atlantic. At the same point in time he
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  would be the first to say us saying no to EU at that point in
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  time, in his opinion was a mistake made by his parents as
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  they were proud at that point in time.
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  And at that point in time I think they all thought it's a
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  peaceful world, we can be independent on everything else.
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  It's only a question of time. I am fully in support of
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  Greenland eventually becoming independent.
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  They own state with everything, but it will require two things.
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  Number one, it will require a long development probably 1520
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  years from now in the economy up here.
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  So you can pay for the rest. Today we are sending up about 4
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  billion crowns is about €600 million on an annual basis.
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  That's without covering additional hospital things in
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  the military and whatever that's just to keep the budget going up
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  here. So we're subsidizing the budget
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  and I don't think just to. Repeat for our international
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  audience. So €600 million is the Danish
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  subsidy for Greenland basic subsistence.
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  Yeah, sort of, sort of to run public administration and
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  whatever, you know, they have rights for pension in Denmark.
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  And what if there's a lot of hidden costs?
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  It's obviously having soldiers up here has benefits to us.
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  We've been living of that for a period of time.
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  And I am the type of person who's been saying since 1995 we
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  should not get rid of the terrestrial defence as we did in
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  Denmark for a number of years. We've been hiding.
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  We were not investing enough by far, completely Denmark's fault.
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  At some point in time we invested like 1.4%.
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  It's ridiculous compared to what we did when I was a soldier
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  during the Cold War, where the defence budget was, you know, 2
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  1/2 times that. And now we're back.
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  But we could get away with a little bit of that because the
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  Americans really needs the base up north.
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  It has a full view over the most important parts of the Russian
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  mainland where a lot of the nuclear missiles would be coming
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  from. And we, we benefited from that.
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  Fair enough. But we did, yes, in parallel
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  with that. So at that point in time, they
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  decided to be outside and. Explain why was that decision in
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  79? Is it about fisheries like with
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  Iceland? Because what we know it was in
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  Iceland and they one of the reasons they don't want to be in
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  the European Union, they would also have to be under this
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  European fishery. Then the European, French and
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  whatever Swedish fish tank ships could also go to Icelandic
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  waters and that's very unpopular in Iceland.
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  So that's basically the short version by Iceland.
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  That's the short version is it's exactly the same version by the
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  Faroe Islands, has exactly the same arrangement.
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  They're not in the European Union either associated and all
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  other things, which now obviously has two or three
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  downsides. Downside #1 you don't get nearly
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  as much of the infrastructure development funds as you would
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  have had in hindsight. Huge mistake I I saw I
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  researched recently I think like 65% of the Greenlandic before
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  this started thought we should get into the EUI think it's
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  coming after this. I honestly don't doubt it.
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  But they are luckily enough for everybody inside NATO just like
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  the Faroe Islands. Because foreign policy and
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  defence policy was always the subjects they didn't take home.
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  Just imagine where we would have been right now if that was not
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  the case. The European Union is one thing,
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  and we're still missing that European army you and I want to
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  see. But them not being part of NATO
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  right now would have been a catastrophe.
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  They would have been occupied by now, yeah.
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  So Greenland is absolutely part of NATO.
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  Yes, 100% under, under the, you know, the Danish chairmanship
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  internally in the United Kingdom of Denmark, they are part of
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  NATO. They also sit on a whole bunch
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  of other, you know, the councils and committees together with
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  Denmark and together with the Fair Islands as part of the
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  Kingdom. But European Union, No.
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  And why is there debating Greenland in the?
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  Because they have a regional parliament as I understand and
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  such a decision to join EU is not like a membership like
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  because they could basically declare themselves as the part
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  of the Danish territory also in terms of EU.
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  So it wouldn't be a membership process and not a very
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  complicated probably most of the laws are anyhow Danish laws.
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  I guess so. So in relation, they would just
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  have to accept the European fishery policy and they could be
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  easily in the European Union within weeks and months to come.
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  Yeah, partly as partly though. So it's just like Bavaria like
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  you talked about, you know, I've, I've seen discussion with
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  some between a guy from Munich and a guy from Hamburg that
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  wasn't pretty about how different they were.
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  Let's just put it that way. They're prouds.
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  This also was not a huge issue till very recently about being
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  part of the European unit. It sort of worked in this common
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  relationship. I will put it this way.
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  I don't think they are just about to say, well, we will
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  just, you know, switch our status back to not.
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  Independent and I'm wouldn't support that I they would have
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  to go through some semi process of being adopted as an
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  independent territory or something like that into the
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  European Union. But I think that's coming.
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  Yes, they would effectively be the 20th member instead of why
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  go so far down from 79 to what, where you are today?
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  They have a well functioning Parliament, 31 members selection
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  not very long time ago and a lot of other institutions that they
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  have built themselves. We they should obviously keep
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  that, yeah. So, you know, you would argue
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  actually for Greenland to be an independent country in part of
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  the UN and then also applying to the European Union as a full
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  member state like we have Malta, like we have Cyprus, like we
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  have Luxembourg. I, I think that's the logic
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  consequence. But like I said, there's a
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  couple of things that needs to happen eventually for them up
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  here. As far as I see for now, they
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  need to stay and NATO member under our umbrella and Europe
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  needs to get, so to speak, our own shit together, get the army
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  and everything else so we can defend ourselves until it's a
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  really peaceful world. I don't think anybody wants to
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  touch the NATO side of exactly how is Greenland part of
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  anything? That would be foolish.
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  The EU part. There are EU projects up here.
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  I'm associated with one of them. EU is partly sponsoring the new
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  sea cable, not the military one, but the other one that is, you
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  know, basically Greenlandic government money and EU money
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  directly. Denmark doesn't fund that cable.
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  That cable is entirely actually funded by the Green Lantic
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  people themselves. And I think it's fantastic thing
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  they're getting some funds from the European Union, but the vast
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  majority is something they saved up for for years to get.
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  And I was like, appreciate that one too, Yes.
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  Jan, let me ask you about the currency in Greenland.
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  What's the currency in Greenland at the moment?
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  Danish crowns. So you are in a currency union
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  between Greenland and Denmark at the moment?
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  Yeah, exactly. Yes.
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  Don't you think that if then because the Danish crown is
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  packed to the euro, but you're still not part of the eurozone
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  for some reasons I really hardly can understand, would you not
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  think that all this mess we have at the moment, would it be much
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  less if Greenland and Denmark would be already in the euro
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  today? The currency would be the euro
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  in Greenland. And you know, the claim of the
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  Americans to somehow say we neglect Greenland because that's
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  the underlying claim. What Mr. Trump says.
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  Yeah, he says, you look, the Europeans are too poor, too
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  negligent. Chinese and Russian interests
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  are around and notice things like for example, not having the
• 23:00
  euro in Greenland is a little bit showing that we really
• 23:03
  didn't care so much and we are really not so united in Europe.
• 23:08
  And can you not push a little bit for Denmark and Greenland in
• 23:11
  the euro? No, not right now.
• 23:17
  Very disappointing answer. Yes, but there's two very good
• 23:21
  reasons. Number one, how's how's the
• 23:23
  dollar doing right now? Yeah, going down their depth is
• 23:28
  fantastic. The average depth across
• 23:31
  European Union right now to GDP I think is 101 percent or
• 23:35
  something like that. The American is better the
• 23:38
  better than that, all of it. Oh OK then my guess is.
• 23:42
  Not much that like the Americans there, but 110.
• 23:46
  Actually, I think it's even higher than that, but I think
• 23:49
  the forecast for 27 in the US is 134% or something like that.
• 23:55
  But here's the real reason. Good.
• 23:57
  The Danish debt to GDP is 34. Are you a very, very careful
• 24:03
  country? Very good.
• 24:04
  I like fiscal conservative. Yes, and I would be happy
• 24:09
  personally to join the euro by the time that becomes mandated
• 24:14
  for the rest of the European countries.
• 24:15
  Who is in the euro right now? Yes, get your shit together, so
• 24:19
  to speak in a polite way and become fiscal conservative so
• 24:25
  that you know countries like Italy, France and whatever which
• 24:29
  are struggling right now to actually do what they need to
• 24:31
  do, which is rearm, re engineer, open the factories and do all
• 24:36
  the other stuff. Because they have spent so much
• 24:39
  on people being able to go on pension when they are 55.
• 24:44
  The minimum pension age for me for example is 72 by the time I
• 24:49
  get to that point, yes. So I was like we work harder and
• 24:54
  longer and right now being outside with the crown was
• 24:58
  beneficial. Yes.
• 24:59
  I mean we had negative as the only one apart from Germany.
• 25:03
  We and we have a better rating than Germany.
• 25:06
  We had negative interest during COVID.
• 25:08
  I mean people were paying us money for them to lend us money.
• 25:12
  You gave us a million, you only got 998,000 back or something
• 25:17
  like that. I'm not saying it's a long term
• 25:21
  solution, but if everybody else around the table are
• 25:25
  overspending right now, we're not joining.
• 25:29
  You know, be this example, fix your economy and we will all
• 25:32
  join. We try to fix it all actually in
• 25:35
  Europe and you know, nobody forces you to have higher depths
• 25:38
  in Denmark because you joined the Eurozone.
• 25:40
  But of course the euro is part of the solidarity mechanisms
• 25:43
  which we have in the European Union.
• 25:45
  But it's now again German and French soldiers and the French
• 25:50
  ship which is heading up north to Greenland because the defence
• 25:55
  obligation of Greenland is, of course, when you take it very
• 25:58
  seriously, it's a big one. It's a big one for a medium
• 26:01
  sized country like Denmark. And we can do that in the
• 26:05
  European Union in solidarity. And if we ask you knock, knock,
• 26:09
  knock Denmark for your currency to be also in our solidarity
• 26:13
  system, when you ask for our solidarity system in defense,
• 26:17
  there's a certain logic. No, I, and it's not that I
• 26:21
  disagree in the long term, but I, I think let's be honest, we
• 26:24
  need to fix at least three things in the European Union.
• 26:26
  We need to get rid of the veto so we don't have this Hungarian,
• 26:30
  Slovakian situation with, you know, somebody who's obviously
• 26:34
  paid by Putin holding us all hostage.
• 26:36
  We need to take a serious look at the acceptable depth levels.
• 26:40
  It cannot be the case, like France right now, that they talk
• 26:44
  about defense on one side and they can't afford a damn plane
• 26:47
  on the other side. Let's get that fixed within
• 26:50
  reason. So everybody's lifting, you
• 26:52
  know, in the same way. And by the way, there are three
• 26:55
  frigates up here pretty much 24/7.
• 26:58
  We just ordered another 4. So yeah, we know.
• 27:02
  Lifting these places. Danish ships, yeah, of course.
• 27:05
  Yeah. Danish ships, Yeah, yeah.
• 27:07
  Do you have a strong Navy as Denmark?
• 27:10
  You know, my ancestors used to row the Atlantic in an open
• 27:14
  boat, called this place Greenland for marketing
• 27:17
  purposes, Discovered America, took a look at it and said I
• 27:21
  will leave this to the Spanish guy.
• 27:22
  Yeah, so. And they did it in February, I
• 27:26
  mind you. So, yeah, we have a strong Navy.
• 27:27
  It's good. You are proud.
• 27:29
  People in Denmark. Yeah.
• 27:32
  And you are very successful. I admire your courage and also
• 27:35
  your stamina and determination to defend Greenland.
• 27:39
  It's very inspiring for all European patriots.
• 27:43
  I mean, I keep saying this, you know, I it's hard to believe
• 27:46
  that a friend will try to draw a sword on us.
• 27:50
  But if you do, we will fight exactly the same way we did with
• 27:53
  you in Afghanistan and Iraq and all the other places we ever
• 27:58
  gone with the Americans. There will be no difference.
• 28:01
  We are experts in turning the sword on whoever comes at us.
• 28:04
  We will die defending our friends.
• 28:07
  Of course we will. And that's also why we have a
• 28:10
  battalion sitting right at the Russian border and Lithuania.
• 28:13
  Yes, it's the same thing, the same principle.
• 28:16
  You know, you cannot be free if you're not willing to actually
• 28:18
  defend it. But you've seen that in the in
• 28:21
  the public holds as well. You know, the Danes willingness
• 28:25
  to serve and defend their country is pretty high.
• 28:27
  It's, you know, basically like the Fins, the Sweets and the
• 28:30
  Norwegians. You're determined to shoot to
• 28:33
  kill in case of American invasion of Greenland.
• 28:37
  You know, there's a lot of debate about that one.
• 28:41
  My personal opinion is this. You have two Ice Breakers.
• 28:46
  Scandinavia has 29. This thing is as far away from
• 28:50
  New York as it is from Copenhagen.
• 28:53
  You can't hold this place long term.
• 28:57
  You can arrive, probably. Would we shoot that, be able to
• 29:01
  at any point in time, land a few people and shoot down every
• 29:03
  helicopter on plane you have? And you couldn't find us anyway?
• 29:06
  This is a continent. It's an island, yes, but it's
• 29:09
  absolutely massive. So you, there's no way the
• 29:13
  Americans can keep it. Probably the best strategy
• 29:16
  considering civilians and all of that stuff is to let them land
• 29:20
  and say no. Let's see how fast you stop out
• 29:22
  of here. Point number one point #2 you
• 29:26
  know, the American government will change eventually.
• 29:29
  And I'm sure the next president is not going to be so crazy even
• 29:32
  if they did it. And here's the most important
• 29:35
  thing, I don't think he will try anymore.
• 29:37
  I think that window actually be closed over the last couple of
• 29:42
  days because once foreign troops are here you are basically
• 29:45
  shooting at all of us. Exactly.
• 29:47
  Yeah, No, I think there will be no military confrontation
• 29:50
  anyhow. I made the proposal that we
• 29:52
  should threaten to take over the European bases of the American
• 29:57
  army from Rammstein to Aviano to Romania to Norway and into
• 30:01
  Britain. There are so many American bases
• 30:04
  in Europe and they are extremely valuable, much more important
• 30:07
  for global power protection and then Greenland ever will be.
• 30:11
  And so, and this is really the leverage we have against America
• 30:15
  in case of decisions. Well, actually two things more.
• 30:19
  Yes, there's 100,000 Pows and the American Pows in those
• 30:23
  places, if we seize them right now, that's a big fact.
• 30:30
  But that's a fact is if you take people prisoner up here, we can
• 30:33
  do the same thing. It's not very well thought out.
• 30:36
  And I also agree with you. You know, America always says,
• 30:39
  well, you know, we spend this much money defending Europe and
• 30:41
  said no, that was in the 80s and 90's.
• 30:45
  The truth is you're paying 16% of the NATO budget.
• 30:49
  That you're spending the rest of the money is because you got
• 30:52
  people in the Middle East, people in Africa, because in the
• 30:54
  Latin and you know, Asia and everywhere else over the world.
• 30:58
  But you have 100,000 people left at which 80 thousands are
• 31:03
  medics, logistics and everything else for your operation in
• 31:07
  Africa and the Middle East. You're absolutely right.
• 31:09
  If they lose Rammstein, they're going to have to start flying
• 31:12
  supplies directly from the US to the Middle East and to Africa.
• 31:17
  It will astronomical. So it's a stupid argument.
• 31:21
  The whole thing is stupid. There's no other way of putting
• 31:23
  it. I'll be like, want to be a man,
• 31:25
  Donald, bomb Iran. Let's get the revolution going.
• 31:29
  It would be the biggest changed to policy in the Middle East
• 31:33
  since 1979. I was.
• 31:35
  Waiting yesterday night so urgently for this to happen.
• 31:38
  And then he called it off seemingly tonight.
• 31:41
  This morning again, I wake up and no action on Iran and but BS
• 31:45
  on Greenland. Yeah.
• 31:46
  And this is really completely wrong.
• 31:48
  What's coming out of the White House these days?
• 31:50
  That is, there's a reason why he's named after Mexican food.
• 31:53
  You know, it's Taco Trump always chickens out.
• 31:58
  And I was like, you don't even have to send the soldiers in,
• 32:00
  just do like you did in Venezuela.
• 32:03
  And that's the other reason why he's not going to do it up here.
• 32:05
  You cannot take this island by bombing something.
• 32:08
  First of all, what would you bomb #2 If you really want this
• 32:12
  for the sake of the minerals and whatever, then you can't just
• 32:15
  sit offshore. Again, you don't have it doesn't
• 32:18
  matter how many hangar ships you have if you don't actually have
• 32:21
  Ice Breakers. Yes.
• 32:22
  I mean, literally speaking, our good Finnish friend, the
• 32:25
  president met last year with Donald Trump, very importantly,
• 32:30
  because the Americans had to buy 14 new Ice Breakers from
• 32:34
  Finland. They only want to knows how to
• 32:36
  produce them. He doesn't even have them.
• 32:38
  It's complete bluster. So you, you know, half the year
• 32:41
  you can't even get close with your hangout shape.
• 32:43
  What are you going to do? Yes, it's impossible.
• 32:46
  It's just stupid. It's stupid at a level that you
• 32:49
  know, only a man with an inflated ego would want this.
• 32:52
  Yes, because I'll tell you one thing, the only gun law that's
• 32:58
  up here in Greenland is handguns are forbidden.
• 33:05
  No handguns, but hunting risers and shotguns is freely available
• 33:09
  in any, you know, convenience store down here.
• 33:12
  The the guns will be on this shelf, the ammo right beneath
• 33:15
  and the lock will be in. You're going to walk that right
• 33:17
  down now and just show a credit card.
• 33:20
  I'm not sure any form of ID. It's complete illegal.
• 33:22
  So there's thirty in a population of, you know, 55,000
• 33:25
  people. There's 35,000 guns, but I don't
• 33:28
  know a single Green Landing friend who's not a better shot
• 33:31
  than me. And I have a fair shot, but
• 33:33
  these guys hunt for a living in -30° You might want to rethink
• 33:40
  that one just a little bit, You know?
• 33:42
  And I don't really want to spend a lot of time on the military
• 33:44
  side of it because I think anybody who actually understands
• 33:47
  this part will say this is lunacy.
• 33:50
  Yes. Explain me.
• 33:51
  One other thing, you know, it's about residents rights.
• 33:54
  Is Greenland in so far part of the European Union that me as a
• 33:58
  Austrian, for example, I have the same rights, like I can go
• 34:01
  to Denmark, live and work in Denmark as EU citizen.
• 34:05
  A big achievement of the European Union is Denmark is
• 34:09
  Greenland. Is it the same or you?
• 34:13
  What's the law of the land now in terms of residence rights?
• 34:17
  And this is also something that Greenland can offer, for
• 34:20
  example, to American citizens or to European citizens to change
• 34:24
  the kind of resident system and say, you know, Americans, if you
• 34:29
  really want to live in Greenland as well, to the Europeans,
• 34:33
  you're all welcome in the presumption that really it's
• 34:36
  very hard living there, I guess, and nobody.
• 34:39
  Wants to go there, won't. Some kind of 1.
• 34:43
  They a media stunt. GD Vance would definitely not
• 34:47
  move his residence towards Greenland.
• 34:50
  And so this could be some kind of public relation activity,
• 34:54
  true, which would not have a big impact.
• 34:56
  No messes of millions of Americans would move to
• 34:58
  Greenland, but this would be maybe some of the things
• 35:01
  Greenland could offer in a deal with the United States and with
• 35:05
  European Union. Yeah, it's not a bad idea.
• 35:08
  So let's take Vance first. Well, he landed in Peter Fig all
• 35:11
  the way north at the American Air base on a nice sunny day.
• 35:16
  It was still -10 and he seems to think it was shocking 2 things,
• 35:21
  how far he can see and how nice the air is and how cold it was.
• 35:24
  And I was like, dude, that's summer here.
• 35:27
  Yes. And you are basically saying,
• 35:29
  oh, this is cold. Don't come here when there's a
• 35:31
  snowstorm and -3035 and 50 kilometers an hour wind where
• 35:36
  you literally you fall in the water right now, you'll die in 4
• 35:39
  minutes from hypothermia. It's a fact, you know.
• 35:41
  So anyway, in principle, if you are European citizen, you will
• 35:49
  not really need anything else than an actual job to, to live
• 35:53
  up here. There's a, a bunch of, you know,
• 35:56
  European, Bulgarians, Romanians, everybody else will need
• 36:01
  Southside. The European Union will need as
• 36:04
  far as I know, and what's called a Greenland visa, you get it
• 36:09
  through the Danish Embassy wherever you are.
• 36:11
  But the, the Queen landings are administrating that part, which
• 36:15
  is a travel visa that allows you not like Schengen.
• 36:18
  You can't actually, you can travel into Denmark.
• 36:20
  You can travel onwards here into Denmark and into Iceland because
• 36:24
  that's the two main flight routes.
• 36:26
  And then you can travel onwards up.
• 36:28
  A lot of tourists does that. The Japanese, you know, people
• 36:31
  from India, whatever. There's a lot of tourism up here
• 36:35
  in the summertime, not really enough to sustain anything
• 36:39
  seriously in the economy because the the summer was so short.
• 36:42
  As you know, I saw a snowstorm up here in mid-May, but suddenly
• 36:48
  there was half a, half a meter of snow outside the door 1
• 36:51
  morning, the start of snowing in the evening.
• 36:53
  And I was like, I better bring the shovel from the shed because
• 36:56
  you know, by the time you open your door, it's up to here. 10
• 37:01
  days later I was gone and you know, by end of October it's
• 37:06
  back yeah so but yes, it it that is actually not a potentially
• 37:12
  not a not a a dumb idea to offer that The problem is of course,
• 37:17
  what would they do on for seals be in the fishing boats work you
• 37:24
  know the the couple of mines there is construction industry a
• 37:28
  lot of it is absolutely normal things to keep society running
• 37:32
  yes. We hear a lot of things that
• 37:34
  Rene Louder, this rich American businessman who was also, I
• 37:39
  think is the man who was also ambassador once in Austria.
• 37:42
  He's a very good gentleman in principle, but he has invested
• 37:46
  in the mining and metal industry and he has also this idea and
• 37:50
  seems to be the promoter of the Greenland takeover annexation
• 37:54
  fantasies. And the whole idea is that there
• 37:57
  is huge rare earths and minerals in Greenland and we all get
• 38:02
  filthy rich by occupying this islands, or at least Rene Lauder
• 38:06
  gets very rich and the whole Halo mask and some Google
• 38:10
  founders and others. This kind of idea is that this
• 38:14
  is a huge bonanza, a kind of gold mine in the making.
• 38:20
  What's the reality of the mining bill for Greenland and how
• 38:25
  economically feasible is it to exploit that?
• 38:29
  Well, the short answer is, is not unless it's a very large
• 38:35
  concentration of something quite valuable there.
• 38:38
  Ruben Rubies up here, gold, diamonds, lots of other things
• 38:43
  up north and something all the way NI mean.
• 38:45
  Go as far north as you can on the map.
• 38:48
  There's only free water out there for like a month and 1/2
• 38:51
  per year. There's one of the world's
• 38:53
  largest concentration of sink and lead and unfortunately
• 38:57
  that's not really worth because mining cost up here typically
• 39:01
  three to six times larger than anywhere else because of the
• 39:04
  Arctic gas. So who's going to build a mine?
• 39:08
  That Canadian company and Chinese looked at it and it's
• 39:12
  absolutely massive deposit. The problem was they needed to
• 39:15
  invest 20 billion just for the mine and the infrastructure.
• 39:21
  There's no power. You got to build power, fly in
• 39:24
  fuel, shipping fuel, whatever, do hydro the places you can and
• 39:29
  so on and so forth. So there there is a series of
• 39:32
  things. But then again, the mining laws
• 39:34
  from 1965, the Danish geologist has been crawling over this
• 39:38
  country for 150 years, writing pH DS about it.
• 39:42
  The real problem is there somebody sits with a spreadsheet
• 39:45
  and say well, over here there is, you know, 1% or 2% when you
• 39:49
  take something the size of Greenland, 600 kilometers that
• 39:52
  way and 1800, so 2800 kilometers this way in a spreadsheet, that
• 39:57
  turns into an absolutely massive number.
• 39:59
  Yes. I mean, I'll give you a simple
• 40:01
  example. This land holds 51% of the
• 40:04
  world's deposit of sand for construction, as you might know.
• 40:11
  Sand is not just sand. The sand that you find on the
• 40:14
  beach are small and round. It's not rough.
• 40:17
  And that doesn't actually work for cement, which was what they
• 40:19
  discovered in Dubai and everywhere else.
• 40:21
  When they wanted to build, start a building down there, they had
• 40:24
  to import sand. They still do.
• 40:26
  So sand is actually a little bit rare, just not so rare.
• 40:29
  It's really worth anything but 51% of the world's deposit of
• 40:34
  construction sands, It's up here, you know, 10 days worth of
• 40:39
  sailing away from New York. So nobody uses it for anything.
• 40:43
  Actually constructing something in Greenland, the buildings
• 40:46
  itself, and not necessarily very expensive because the sand is
• 40:49
  pretty much for free. You know, we use nothing, but
• 40:52
  it's a, it's a typical example is if this deposit was sitting
• 40:55
  in UK or you know, Germany or whatever, it would be used all
• 40:59
  the time and somebody would make money on it.
• 41:01
  You know, cannot make money on a Ruby mine that is, you know,
• 41:06
  halfway under the ice. How are you going to get to it?
• 41:10
  So it's an illusion. You know, don't you think
• 41:13
  Greenland would have been completely independent if they
• 41:16
  had resources like Qatar a long time ago?
• 41:20
  And, and this is the problem is somebody is holding up a plaque
• 41:23
  in front of Donald and going like this country has
• 41:27
  everything, which is sort of true, pretty much the same
• 41:31
  plaque somebody held up with regards to Ukraine.
• 41:33
  But at least in Ukraine, once the Russians are out, you can
• 41:36
  get to it up here. The environment and the lack of
• 41:40
  infrastructure will prevent that.
• 41:42
  Yes, they have been looking for so long for oil.
• 41:47
  There was oil explorations in back in the 90s and early 2000s
• 41:52
  and they found traces, but not enough that it was worth start
• 41:55
  putting drilling rigs in the ice just like they do in Norway.
• 42:00
  So the deposits are not there for anything.
• 42:01
  It's they all hope. But that's why I'm saying
• 42:05
  eventually I think this country will become free when a couple
• 42:08
  of condition has been fulfilled. 1 Denmark has joined the EUR
• 42:12
  since you want that, that has a little bit long way out in the
• 42:17
  future, it will happen. More.
• 42:18
  You're very welcome. Two, we will have a strong
• 42:22
  European federation with an army, common foreign policy and
• 42:28
  common industrial policy. So we are one of the actual
• 42:31
  superpowers. And three, they have developed
• 42:35
  the economy up here, you know, to the point where they are self
• 42:40
  sustainable. They still have to cover the
• 42:42
  rest of the budget realistically to become truly independent and
• 42:46
  I truly hope that they do. My only other ways for the
• 42:49
  future is very simple is that one day Europe and China has a
• 42:54
  common border at the Euros. That's a very good idea.
• 42:58
  We might support ex Russia. Absolutely, yeah.
• 43:01
  And let me ask you one final question about Nordic
• 43:03
  solidarity, because we could imagine some future where, for
• 43:07
  example, Norway and Iceland and Sweden and the United Kingdom
• 43:13
  and this whole Nordic countries, if we want to say, they all say,
• 43:17
  you know, we want to be much more united.
• 43:20
  And we also agree with Greenland to become an independent
• 43:24
  country. And you know, in a package, for
• 43:27
  example, for the European Union, if a country like Norway joins
• 43:31
  the European Union, for example, which is very rich country and
• 43:34
  has all the resources for us in the European Union, it would be
• 43:38
  because I understand a little bit Greenland with 60,000
• 43:41
  people, which is basically economically negligent.
• 43:46
  And you know, it's very difficult to have it as a full
• 43:49
  member of the European Union because we would basically have
• 43:53
  to subsidise Greenland fully ultimately because it's a member
• 43:59
  which you have to pay basically basic welfare and most of the
• 44:03
  costs you will have to pay from the start on.
• 44:05
  And this is a difficult proposition for most European
• 44:09
  Union members to have an equal position for Greenland, like for
• 44:12
  France or Germany in a way. And so in a package, when for
• 44:16
  example, in a country like Norway says we are coming and
• 44:21
  when a country like Iceland says and ultimately a country like
• 44:24
  the United Kingdom says, we are coming back to the European
• 44:28
  Union, which are huge economies with trillions of GDP.
• 44:32
  And then for example, in the package, membership of Greenland
• 44:36
  is actually very attractive. And suddenly we have the Nordic
• 44:39
  safe in the NATO, in the EU, in the euro, and we all are much
• 44:44
  stronger to what's our enemy, Russia, China and whatever the
• 44:49
  enemies will be. Hopefully there will be change
• 44:51
  of regime in Iran, but currently Iran is the enemy regime and
• 44:55
  they are fighting us in Ukraine. So we have enemies in the world
• 44:58
  and unity matters very much. And do you see a future in the
• 45:02
  north of Europe where there's solidarity in Europe is really
• 45:06
  the number one And we all say other Europa and we are already
• 45:12
  united in NATO, EU and the Euro. And I would be so happy if you
• 45:15
  say yes. I would love to say yes, I would
• 45:19
  also say some of that future is already here that first of all
• 45:24
  there is the the the Scandinavian pass unit means
• 45:28
  that Iceland, Finland, Norway and where we travel forth and
• 45:32
  back without our past that was before even Schengen arrived
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  yes. So we're always at that and any
• 45:37
  of us can travel in and out of Norway right now without
• 45:40
  anything else than just normal documentation.
• 45:43
  You cannot but the rest of those cans, and that has existed since
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  the 80s. One, two, our defenses is
• 45:50
  already integrated. People are not really paying
• 45:52
  attention to it, but the Scandinavian countries
• 45:56
  effectively have one command that was just started in 2023
• 46:01
  with integrating the Phoenix, the Danish, the Novedian and the
• 46:04
  Swedish air forces as one strike force.
• 46:07
  Today we command more planes than any other country in Europe
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  except UK and France. We have more planes than Germany
• 46:14
  combined on the one single command and already, you know,
• 46:18
  hauling duties together and a training together and whatever.
• 46:22
  I foresee the same thing happening with the armies
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  relatively quickly, no doubt. Yes, the Swedes and the Finnish
• 46:29
  has great defense industries. You know, anybody wants a
• 46:34
  finished friend, Yes, they can put 900,000 guys on the street
• 46:37
  in no time with an actual gun and some training in their hand.
• 46:40
  We need to learn from that. But some of the future is
• 46:42
  already here because the plane's already flying together.
• 46:45
  If Russia attacks tomorrow, he's gonna he's gonna get a response
• 46:49
  that is united from all of these countries.
• 46:51
  So it's not as far fetched as as we think at all.
• 46:55
  The question is more like, how do we persuade the Norwegians to
• 46:58
  bring all their wolf back in to Yeah, oh, how do we persuade,
• 47:04
  persuade some of the British who are clearly suffering right now,
• 47:08
  economically speaking, from the stupid mistake?
• 47:11
  Yes. What is it?
• 47:12
  They have signed trade deals worth £15 billion or something
• 47:17
  like that, and they are losing £240 billion in trade every
• 47:21
  year. I mean what to say, but how do
• 47:23
  you get a proud man like that to admit that he fucked it up?
• 47:27
  Especially if he's Nigel Farage and obviously he's more
• 47:30
  interested in his personal business than than the business
• 47:34
  of Uki don't have an answer to that.
• 47:37
  You are the political genius here, not me.
• 47:41
  I'm just a guy who knows how to make people talk and once in a
• 47:45
  while shoot at them if they don't, but that's it.
• 47:47
  You are Danish dynamite. That's what we say from 92
• 47:50
  onwards. Yeah, we admire you Danish
• 47:53
  people, You are entrepreneurs, businessmen, technology leaders
• 47:56
  and we are proud to have you in the European Union, in NATO and
• 48:01
  maybe also in the euro in the future.
• 48:03
  But. They will come.
• 48:05
  And I'm very much admiring your courage personally and to live
• 48:09
  in the winter in Nuke in Greenland, I guess it's not so
• 48:13
  easy to be in the winter there. It's not a one day stunt photo
• 48:18
  opportunity, but you really live in the quite extreme conditions
• 48:22
  of the Greenlandic winter and you know, it needs people with
• 48:26
  determination, staminas and leadership to do that.
• 48:30
  I admire you, Jan, for that one. I want to thank you very much.
• 48:34
  And I tell to Mr. Trump, please don't touch our Greenland
• 48:37
  because the Danish and the Greenland people will defend it
• 48:41
  and all Europeans will stand with you.
• 48:44
  We sent our armies up north. We are here to defend it.
• 48:47
  Russia will never touch Greenland.
• 48:49
  China will not touch Greenland. And also the United States of
• 48:53
  America welcome to invest. They are welcome to send people
• 48:57
  there if they want to live there.
• 48:58
  They are welcome to send capital.
• 49:00
  They are welcome to send their soldiers and to build a strong
• 49:04
  Arctic defence for NATO that can be a command Center for NATO in
• 49:09
  the north, for example. There's a lot of options here,
• 49:12
  but no change of sovereignty. We love our Greenland people and
• 49:17
  we are good patriots with them united.
• 49:19
  Thanks a lot, Jan. Maybe some closing statement
• 49:22
  from your side and thanks for coming to our show.
• 49:26
  Thanks very much Grunter. I completely agree.
• 49:28
  There's not much else to say except don't pull a sword on a
• 49:32
  friend. You will not like the result.
• 49:36
  Thanks a lot and my admiration for and good luck.
• 49:39
  If I want to say in the cup coming weeks and months in the
• 49:42
  Greenlandic winter and they made a storm of Trump like a winter
• 49:47
  storm. And the attention of Europe may
• 49:50
  also in the future lay on Greenland that we really in the
• 49:54
  next budgetary framework invest a lot of money into Greenland
• 49:57
  and that Greenland also joins European Union fully.
• 50:01
  And that's I think, a much better future ahead for.
• 50:04
  I hope so. And by the way, you know what
• 50:06
  log is? Yes, 95% hard work, exactly.
• 50:10
  That's the Danish attitude. There we go.
• 50:14
  Very good. Thank you very much for having
• 50:15
  me. Yes, thanks a lot for coming on
• 50:17
  the show. I will send you the link soon.
• 50:19
  Perfect. Thanks man.