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The Triangle Debates mixdown part 3 - Curiosity-Driven: Is “Super Dick” Real—or Just a Failure of Emotional Discipline? · The Bull Brotherhood

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elevate. So to all the bulls, hot wives, stags,
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and open -minded explorers, we see you. Let's
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go. When we deal with these couples, especially
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the newer couple, we're bringing in an energy
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that is completely foreign to them. Especially
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cats like B Morgan. Cats like Mr. Mocha, a .k
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.a. Super Dick. You know what I'm saying? There's
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a certain kind of energy. Don't give me that
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title. Hell no. I don't want that one. Listen,
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the shirt is already on the way, brother. The
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shirt is already on the way. The shirt is already
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on the way. But no, I'm saying, like, and so,
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but at the same time, knowing you brothers the
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way that I do, I know that you're cognizant of
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that. You know what I'm saying? You're cognizant
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of the fact that, you know, as our brother who's
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not here, Pagan, is fond of saying, what do you
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call it, that, was it black sex magic? You know,
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like, we got that shit with us, bruh. And you
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know you got that shit with you. You can be as
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humble as the fuck you want to be, but you know
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you got that shit with you. You know what I'm
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saying? Like, B, know he got that shit with him.
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Socrates is learning that he got that shit with
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him. I know I got that shit with me. Dimitri
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know he got that shit with him. Pagan know he
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got that shit. That's why we brothers. You know
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what I'm saying? So you know when you hitting
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somebody with something. And it ain't just the
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dick. I mean, we laugh and joke and say it's
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super dick, whatever. But the super dick is all
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-encompassing. It, you know, it's Mr. Mocha's.
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I don't give a fuck. I'm going to tell you what
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I feel because I'm confident in what I'm saying.
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You might not like what I'm saying to you, but
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you know I'm spitting truth. And if the truth
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hurts, so be it. It's that confidence he has
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in what he says. I mean, it's B. Morgan's combination
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of masculinity and sensitivity. You know what
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I'm saying? The way he throw that baby girl around.
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I mean, he know what the fuck he's doing when
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he throw that baby girl around. He know the effect
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that that's having. Baby girl, right? You know
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what I'm saying? He know what he's doing. Like,
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ain't none of us new to this. So that's when
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I talk about the ethical part is we know what
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we're capable of. We know that bartender is serving
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you straight, honey -proof liquor. I know there's
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a possibility that you're going to get drunk.
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So as the bartender, it's up to me to be like,
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you know what? Why don't you take this cup of
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water right now? You didn't have too much. I'm
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going to cut you off. Because if I leave it up
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to you, you're going to keep buying shots. But
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I don't want to get sued when you wreck your
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car after leaving here. So I'm going to give
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you water for this next hour. That's what I mean
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when I talk about the ethical part. We know what
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we're working with. We're not oblivious to it.
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We see it. We see ourselves in the mirror every
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day. That's one of the things I've learned about.
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I still have to push back from the... I think
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there's a such thing as being confident, but
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I also... And maybe it's what I personally, just
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my personal values. I don't believe that I have
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the ability to take... I don't think that I have
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the ability to come between two people who are
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in love with each other and who have their shit
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together. You know, that same woman who might
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decide to leave her husband for her bull is the
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same woman, you know, the same type of woman
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that would, you know, leave her husband for the
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guy at the office. There's a lot of those people
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out there in the lifestyle and outside of lifestyle.
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And then there's going to be the women who I
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don't give a fuck. How much swag or how young
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or how good looking or how much money you have.
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You can't take her from her man. So I think that.
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Yeah, I can. I can break a board. That's cut
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a quarter of the way through. So she's already
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has cracks and fractures. Yes, and I can break
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her. People being new to the lifestyle. Being
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new to this type of life does not mean that they
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have cracks and fractures. In fact, if they came
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into the lifestyle the way they're supposed to.
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They just don't know. They just don't know. But
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no matter what I don't know, no matter what my
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wife don't know, you're not going to convince
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us to do some shit that's outside of our current
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programming. Like me and the Sigma male spoke
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about earlier. If she's on my program. And we're
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on the same page and somebody else comes in and
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she allows them to interrupt my programming.
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Me and her got smoked, not me and him. And I
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personally don't believe that super dick or anything
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can can interrupt the thing that's not broken.
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Now, if it's broken, then it's susceptible to
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to me. Or to the lame -ass dude who we'd be like,
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how the fuck did you let that guy get you? That's
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not super dick. Because she was already susceptible.
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You know what I mean? So I can't give it to,
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hey, I appreciate the compliment. Maybe somebody
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will listen to this and be like, I want to suck
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his dick. You know what I'm saying? I'll be like,
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well, ma 'am, here it is. But I don't believe
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that I'm not willing to take away. Her her freedom
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of choice and her ability to make decisions,
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because now I feel like I'm weakening her. If
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anybody told my wife that there is a dick somewhere
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so good that you'll get stupefied, I'd say go
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fucking kill yourself because you're insulting
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her emotional intelligence as well as her own
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intelligence and her ability to make an educated
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or uneducated decision. No, fuck that. You do
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some outsiders programming. You did it because
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you wanted to. Not because some dick was so good.
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You done sucked a thousand dicks in your life
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and all of a sudden you found the golden penis?
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Get the fuck out of here. I don't believe that.
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You know what I'm saying? And that's relative
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because if you're stepping into the lifestyle
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properly, usually you guys are strong enough
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and you're exciting. And yeah, you're going to
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make some mistakes between the two of you. But
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mistakes like, oh, this guy's cock was so good
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I left my family for it? Nah, I don't believe
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that. But you've seen it before. With somebody
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who was fractured, when you have a woman or a
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couple who shit went together. There's a lot
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of fractured couples in this lifestyle. A lot.
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That's very true. There's a lot of fractured
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couples in this lifestyle. And all I'm saying
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is, as an experienced... I agree with that. I
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do agree with that. And you would never know
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it. I'm able to recognize, like I know I can
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push a solid couple further than I can push a
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fractured couple. You know what I'm saying? I
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know that they can endure more and take more
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and explore more than a couple who might not
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be on solid footing. You know what I'm saying?
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Now, the way that I feel about myself personally
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is I can handle those type of couples because...
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not all the time, but oftentimes I can help them
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get to that place. Sometimes I fail, but I'm
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not afraid to try. If that makes sense. I'm saying
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like, I don't, I don't run from that smoke. You
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know, I know I, but I get, I totally get the
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guys who are like, man, I don't feel like dealing
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with that. I didn't sign up for that. That kind
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of situation doesn't deter me because of the
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way my brain works. I'm saying, um, And you're
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also a real, you're a real bull and you accept
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that challenge. I wouldn't say that a guy is
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not a real bull for not accepting that challenge.
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Some guys just don't want those complications.
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Some guys just like my life is complicated enough.
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I don't need to be introducing that type of energy
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into my day -to -day shit. Like I didn't get
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into this lifestyle to be a therapist. Like I
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would never fault anybody for that just because
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that happens to be my jam. I'm saying. You know,
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I just happen to have a thing for damaged people.
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That's just my own character flaw. If you want
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to call it a flaw, you know what I'm saying?
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That's how I got to this point was by dealing
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with people that have problems. And then I figured
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out how to, you know, work through those problems
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and what, you know, what added to those problems
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and what caused those problems. And that's how
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I got a podcast because that kind of thing interests
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me. You know what I'm saying? But I would never
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knock anybody for not. wanting to do that kind
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of heavy lifting. You know, this lifestyle is
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supposed to be fun. Like I'm not trying to deal
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with the real life implications behind this shit.
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I'm in this shit to have fun. My regular life
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is complicated enough as it is. So I would never
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knock anybody or say to somebody who's not a
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real bull for not wanting to play therapist also.
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That just happens to be something that, you know,
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that doesn't turn me away or doesn't turn me
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off. You know what I'm saying? Michael, can I
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propose a question to you? Sure. My real -life
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situation. So this is what I'm really getting
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at. Like you said, you helped me go from lack
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of confidence and lack of ability. Mr. Mocha
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as well, Brian Morgan, Pagan, you guys all helped
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me. I'm getting to the point where, oh, okay,
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you know, like we talked about in Utopia, some
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of these skills are starting to pay off, right?
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So let's take my love. Yeah. No, they starting
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to, they, they paying off now. So let's say I'm,
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but I'm still new. There's, there's things I
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haven't accomplished. Like I haven't owned a
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couple yet. All of y 'all have, right. I haven't
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gone to that stage yet. So I'm, I'm developing,
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I'm learning. So let's say me, I don't think
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I'm broken, but I'm new and I'm learning. And
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I get with a couple. I don't know they're broken
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yet because I'm still learning. Right. And me,
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I give it my all. I know some guys say, I can't
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give it all to you. I got to leave some leftover
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for next time. Okay. That's cool. I don't think
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that way just yet. So I'm giving you, I'm giving
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you as much super dick as I got. And it ends
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up to where I'm in this situation that like Mr.
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Mocha said, well, she tripping, but I don't know
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that she tripping as much as I, as much as she
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should be considering what I gave her. And I'm
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in that situation, and it falls apart. And she
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ends up saying, I'm leaving my man. You did.
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And I want to be with you. And I'm like, number
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one, I'm married. Number two, I ain't here for
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that. I've been here for a good time, not a long
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time. Whose fault is that then? Is that my fault
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because I didn't know what I was doing? Is it
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her fault because she shouldn't have been susceptible
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to that? Is that their fault because... I didn't
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make no vows. They made vows. Who's fault would
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that be? What I'm about to say is going to sound
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contradictory. I'm aware of that as I'm about
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to say it. Hey, man. Hey, hey. Don't take shit
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away from me because you know I would have enjoyed
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telling you that. Don't put disclaimers on it
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to keep my mouth shut. It ain't going to work.
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Carry on. And I know we've all been in this position,
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especially the three of us, where it's like,
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especially when you're talking about a cuckold
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dynamic. When both parties are new, that's when
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I take out the popcorn. I'm like, shit's about
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to get really interesting when the bull is new
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and the couple is new. You know, it's like, okay,
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this shit is about, the fireworks are about to
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start. What I would say about the contradictory
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part where I'm contradicting myself is, and I
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say this to you, Brother Socrates, with love.
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The one thing that Brian, myself, and Mr. Mocha
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have in common, and the brothers that ain't here,
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Dimitri and Peyton, we got trialed by fire, man.
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We took out bumps and bruises. We learned. You
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know what I'm saying? We went through it. We
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made mistakes. We put our foot in our mouths.
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We put ourselves in fucked up situations and
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positions. And, you know, we love giving you
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that knowledge. We love giving you that information.
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But at the same time, there's no substitute for
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real world experiences. So I say that to say,
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bro, you got to just get out there and take your
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lumps, man. You got to take your fucking lumps.
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You got to get out there and try shit and be
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like, oh, that blew up in my face. I don't want
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to try it like that again. We can give you as
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much education as we can, and you can take it
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all in as much as you can absorb, but there's
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no substitute for real -world experience. There's
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no substitute for being in a situation and then
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going home and thinking about that situation
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and saying to yourself. Okay, if I'm in that
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situation again, what would I do differently?
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Or, hey, this situation looks really familiar
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to another situation I was in. I wonder if I
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can pull that lesson from that situation and
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apply it to this situation. Oh, shit, it worked.
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Or, oh, shit, it didn't work. Okay, let me scramble
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and come back and try it again. You know, you're
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talking to three guys that, B, how long have
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you been doing this shit? 32 years. Okay, Mr.
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Mocha, Methuselah, how long have you been doing
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it? Probably 24. Yeah, and myself, 25 plus. So
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we've been, trust me, we did not all start as
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the refined product our listeners, our combined
16:52
listeners are listening to now. You know what
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I'm saying? Hell to the no. Hell no. I applaud
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the hell out of you. Like, I wish I would have
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had Mr. Merkle or B. Morgan, you know, there
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to lay the groundwork for me. But at the same
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time, I know how valuable that real -world experience
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was to me. And I don't want you to be afraid
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to make mistakes. And so I like to make mistakes,
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bruh. As long as you're not making the same mistakes
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over and over and over. No, brother, I think
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you misunderstand my question. And you know that's
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my gospel. I'll tell anybody. I don't care how
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many books I read, how many times I sit under
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these people's feet. Experience trumps that.
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I'm not saying that. What I'm asking you is,
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all things being equal, it sounds to me like
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you got the bull's fault. It's the bull's fault.
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It's like you got all these skills. And I got
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all these skills. I don't know that these women
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are reading body language books or talking to
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a bunch of other people, experts in their field
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and therapists and all of these kind of things.
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I don't know that the couple's doing that. I
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just know what I'm doing. So I'm saying if I
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come in with my new, with all of these masters,
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I mean, like you said, I get to call all you
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brothers. And I will probably talk to one of
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y 'all every day. If I ain't talking to Mr. Mocha,
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I'm talking to you. If I ain't talking to you
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or Mr. Mocha, I'm talking to... Brian Morgan.
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If I ain't talking to him, I'm trying to call
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Pagan and try to get him on the line. And if
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I can't pick him up, I'll get deep. So it's like,
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I don't know that they have that, but what I'm
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asking you is, if I go put my super dickness
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on them and it turns out that it blows up and
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she's ready to leave her husband, that's my fault?
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I have the ethics. I might tell her, don't leave
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her. I'll tell her, don't do that. I'll tell
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her, I'm here for a good time, not a long time.
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I'll tell her all the things she needs to hear.
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Are you aware that you put, and again, when I
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say super dick, I'm not referring to just a dick.
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You know what I'm saying? I'm referring to the
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whole package. Communication, exploring, confidence,
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building them up. You know what I'm saying? Encouraging
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them like, like everything that comes with it.
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But the thing is, whenever I do that, I know
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what I'm doing. Like I'm fully aware of what,
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like I'm not doing it by accident. You know what
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I'm saying? So knowing that I'm keeping my eyes
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open, like, okay, she's coming along. She's coming
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along. She's coming along. Oh shit. She's getting
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caught up. Now I got to put the brakes on because
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I, because that's the reaction that I don't want.
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I don't want her getting caught up. You know
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what I'm saying? I want her to be confident.
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But they came with what, though, Mike? But they
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came with what, though, Mike? Your experience,
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right? You talked about on -the -job training.
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Yeah, experience and understanding. I think,
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okay, great. And like you said, 20 -something
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years of experience. You know what I mean? For
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that young dude, for that young boy that's just
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starting out, He probably doesn't know no other
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way but to bring fire and stage five from the
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jump. He don't know how to turn it off. He don't
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know how to communicate the right way. He doesn't
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know. He doesn't know. So if he does bring the
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super deep at first and he makes her feel some
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kind of way. And here again, technically, yeah,
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he is at fault. You know what I mean? Because
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like I said, he's not experienced. He doesn't
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know. He doesn't know. He wouldn't make those
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errors if he's been in it for 20 plus or 30 years
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like we are. You know what I'm saying? Because
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we're able to read. We're able to read the room.
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You know, we know what they look for. We know
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how they look at you a certain way. So we know
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how to tune it. You know how to tune it down.
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But for that new guy. He doesn't know. He doesn't
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know. Something that we're all familiar with,
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and it's fucked up that we're all familiar with
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it, but it is what it is. We've all lived in
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neighborhoods, been around neighborhoods, visited
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neighborhoods that got fucked up by crack. Right.
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So it's like the motherfucker that's out there
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slinging. Like, yeah, I'm not making these people
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come to me. I'm not making these people buy this
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shit from me. But at the same time, every once
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in a while, you'll talk to a dude who used to
21:43
do that, who understands the damage that he wrought
21:45
on his community. So what about the dude who
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gets into this? And he, because this is something
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that's a thing that I just, over the last few
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years, because like being Morgan, the Sigma male,
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I was pretty much a lone wolf myself. So once
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I started, socializing with more dudes within
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the lifestyle, I started seeing there's a whole
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lot of dudes out there really catching feelings
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for people's wives. So is it the wife's fault
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for giving out that good pussy? Has she got the
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super cat? Does she bear no responsibility for
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making this motherfucker lose his mind? I need
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to know because if I can find some scientific
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evidence, I'm about to start losing it. I love
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that. I'm joking. I'm joking. But, you know,
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so no matter what we say that we feel like the
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guy has some sort of response. I mean, and listeners,
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please understand this is not something that
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happens all the time. Honestly, I've most of
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the guys who I've spoken to in lifestyle, it's
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only a small percentage of guys, in my opinion,
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who experience, you know, the situation where
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you've you've. Interacted with so many different
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people throughout the lifestyle, throughout your
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lifestyle experience where you come across a
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person or two who who creates this inappropriate
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or attempt to create inappropriate attachment.
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Now, honestly, and I feel terrible for saying
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this, but until the last few years, I didn't
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realize that there are some guys out here. who
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are creating these attachment to, to marry women
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or the hot wives or cuckoldresses in the lifestyle.
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And I mean, inappropriate, like claiming this
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is my woman, you know, not, not with the wife
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or the husband's permission. So, so does the,
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is the bull responsible for everything? Does
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the, the couple have no, Bear no responsibility,
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especially seeing as how most of the couples
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have been in the lifestyle longer than many of
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the bulls. So is it based upon experience? I've
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got X amount of years of experience, so therefore
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I'm responsible if the woman gets too attached
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to me. But if the couple has 25 years of experience
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and they get a young bull, then he gets attached.
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Is it now their fault that he's attached? That
24:30
goes back to the comment that I just made about
24:34
when you have both parties that are relatively
24:37
new to this, when you kind of sit back down.
24:40
That wasn't the question. That wasn't the question.
24:43
Yeah, yeah. So you said that the couple is experienced?
24:47
Yep. Yes, this couple has 20 plus, yeah, 20 plus.
24:51
Yeah, and that situation, the responsibility
24:54
falls to the more experienced party. Can we all
25:02
agree on that? The responsibility falls to the
25:04
more experienced part? I don't agree. Listen,
25:07
I don't agree, but I think you're finally being
25:09
fair. I will take it because you're being fair.
25:13
God damn it. He's being fair. He's being fair.
25:19
You know what I'm saying? My complaint before
25:21
was the lack of fairness and the fact that at
25:25
least for once you've been fair. You know, I'm
25:27
about to make a lot of noise. You know what I'm
25:29
saying? I'm making a lot of noise because, you
25:32
know, usually you be on that bullshit. So thank
25:36
you for being fair. I still don't agree, but
25:39
I like the fairness. I want to hear what Socrates
25:44
has to say because he quickly said, no, you know,
25:48
I disagree. What's your take on that? I mean,
25:53
you got to listen to it. Listen to it good now.
25:57
Because we talk about, you and I talk about experience
25:59
all the time. You know what I mean? We talk about
26:02
experience all the time. We got a young boy here.
26:07
We got a young dude that's just getting started.
26:10
He's just getting started. We won't say age,
26:13
but we're going to say he's in his 20s. Okay,
26:16
he's a young dude. You know what I mean? We got
26:18
a couple here that let's say they've been in
26:21
his 20s. 20 years at least. So we're going to
26:24
say they're in their 50s. Is that safe to say,
26:29
y 'all? Let's say a 50 -year -old couple. A seasoned
26:33
couple. A seasoned couple. All right, Socrates.
26:36
Now give me your, I just laid out that. You know,
26:39
like Mike was saying, give me your reason for
26:41
saying that it's not the couple's responsibility
26:44
to like maybe bring that, maybe school that young
26:48
man. Go ahead. No, no, no. Michael was saying
26:51
that whoever has more experience is the responsibility,
26:56
right? Okay. Well, in this case, I disagree with
27:00
that. I disagree with that. Yeah. So here's why
27:03
it is real simple. One thing, are they married?
27:09
Yes. A couple married. Okay. So I didn't say
27:14
no vows. I said some vows to my wife and, um,
27:19
My vow is that if I meet one of these, like,
27:22
what is it called? Mr. Mocha said, super cat.
27:24
If I meet a woman with a super cat, my commitment
27:29
to my wife is I work that shit out. I got to
27:33
let that super cat go. I got to do something
27:35
because we've made a commitment. I didn't make
27:39
no commitment to you. Even if I'm your boyfriend
27:42
and you want me to be your boyfriend, you didn't
27:46
say. Hey, you are applying now for the job of
27:49
replacing my husband. No, you said y 'all are
27:53
together. You guys are committed. And I always
27:57
ask that question. Are you guys in a happy relationship?
28:00
Because I don't want no smoke. I don't want no
28:02
problem. So you guys are committed. I didn't
28:06
make no vow to you, woman. I didn't make no vow
28:08
to you, Mr. Cuff. I made a commitment. I'm going
28:11
to bring as much of my skills as I can, and we're
28:14
going to enjoy each other's company. I'm not
28:16
responsible for you. You ain't responsible for
28:18
me. They made a vow to each other. So if I put
28:21
super dick on you, and even if I fit in my opinion,
28:25
if a super dick come to Siren and put it on her,
28:29
like all the way on her, like he has, he's unethical.
28:34
He don't care. My mentality is, even if I'm lacking,
28:39
you made a vow and a commitment to me that we
28:42
got to work this out. Right. And if you would
28:45
have said, well, I'm looking that look, I'm out.
28:48
But if you're like, we're getting into this for
28:51
fun and we're going to expand our relationship
28:54
or maybe he's got some things like, I don't role
28:57
play. It's hard enough to be. Right. I don't
29:02
role play. So I'm like, please go get yourself
29:05
a brother that can play cop or robbers or whatever
29:08
the hell y 'all want to do. I ain't doing it.
29:10
So that's our commitment. She's committed to
29:14
me. I'm committed to her. So now I don't care
29:16
what y 'all experience got. I don't care if the
29:19
dude, I just, we technically only been married.
29:21
We have our anniversary for first year is coming
29:24
up a couple of weeks. I don't care if the dude
29:26
got 20 years experience. If Mr. Morgan can take
29:29
my wife away from me, then that's on me. I dropped
29:33
the bag. I have a problem. And that's my problem.
29:37
Cause I made a commitment to her. She made a
29:38
commitment to me. I don't care what. I don't
29:40
get 55 years of experience. No. Okay. Okay. Okay.
29:45
Flip the script. Flip the script. Flip the script.
29:48
All right. Let's say the wife, the wife throws,
29:53
what do you call it? What do you call the mocha?
29:56
Super cat or super cat? Super cat. Super cat.
30:00
What if she throws super cat? What if she throws
30:04
super cat? Okay. What if she throws super cat
30:07
on that little 20 -some -year -old? And he goes
30:11
ballistic. He goes ballistic. He goes walking
30:14
around, you know, like Mike said, he tell him,
30:16
yo, this is my girl, and yada, yada, yada, and
30:19
unbeknownst to the couple. Y 'all don't even
30:22
know that he's saying that. You know what I'm
30:23
saying? So you're saying the cubs don't even
30:26
know. The cubs don't even know. The couple doesn't
30:30
even know. The couple doesn't even know. You
30:32
see what I'm saying? They just thought they had
30:33
a great day. Yada, yada. Okay, got it. All right.
30:36
You know what I mean? But, you know, she rocked
30:38
bottom, okay? She hit him with the rock bottom.
30:41
You know what I'm saying? Now he messed up. So
30:44
are they at fault because they didn't, you know,
30:49
like bring him on slowly, you know? And like
30:53
somebody told me, you don't give it all to him
30:56
at one time or what? I'll take it even further.
31:03
I was going to bring this up earlier. I studied
31:06
hypnotism. And so back in the 70s, they were
31:16
starting to put subliminal messages in the movies.
31:20
And I forgot what the governing body of that
31:24
did that. But they said, you can't do that because
31:26
there are some people susceptible, so susceptible
31:30
to. hypnotism, that they will start losing a
31:36
part of their ability to resist, right? So I'm
31:41
saying there are people out there that you don't
31:44
have much, you have a very hard upward battle
31:48
of resisting what they're doing. I'm saying even
31:52
further away from super dicks. I'm talking about
31:54
some of these guys that are CIA masters or they
31:58
are You know, hypnotizing masters, they study
32:01
the game like that. I'm saying you can put all
32:04
that on me, but as a bull, I don't know one bull
32:08
on this planet that doesn't understand the concept
32:10
of you. I don't know one bull in America. What
32:15
was that name? Union. Marriage. Right? Okay.
32:20
You can put all that super... They don't give
32:24
a fuck, but they understand the concept. That's
32:26
different. What I'm saying is... You got a 20
32:29
-year -old couple. You got 20 years of togetherness,
32:32
right? And you got some young cat. Yeah, you
32:36
can put it on him and make him want to act stupid.
32:39
You can put it on him and have him fucked up.
32:41
He can't concentrate at work. He can't take his
32:45
mind off her. But there's a line that every man
32:49
in this country knows. You do not cross that
32:52
line. Every man knows that. I mean, if you initiate
32:58
21 and years old, yeah, you are not. I don't
33:02
care what she put on you. You're wrong. You got
33:04
some huckabuckas, as I call them out there. You
33:09
got some huckabuckas that don't understand that,
33:11
though, brother. You got some out there. You
33:16
got some out there that they get so caught up
33:18
in that thing and so good that they do forget
33:21
and they lose their mind. And, you know, now
33:25
you got a mess. No, I'm taking it even further.
33:28
You got some guys, you got some women and some
33:30
people that are so skillful at it. They damn
33:33
near can make a court case. I'm saying it don't
33:37
matter. It just takes it from murder to manslaughter.
33:41
You still paying the price on me. You still crossed
33:44
the line. Well, I was hypnotized. Your hypnotized
33:48
ass crossed the line. I don't care how much experience
33:51
they got. I need to understand this. So from
33:55
your standpoint, because earlier we talked about
33:58
when a guy interacts with a couple and the wife
34:02
gets attached to him and she wants to leave the
34:05
husband for that guy. Mike feels like the guy
34:10
bears a certain amount of responsibility for
34:13
that. Now, the other side of that question is
34:16
if, you know, a young guy meets a couple and.
34:22
You know, the wife is phenomenal. She's a great
34:25
woman. He gets really attached to her and he
34:28
wants her for himself or he wants to take ownership
34:31
of that woman. The you don't feel like it's.
34:37
Her fault. Because her pussy was so good. Correct.
34:45
If she's the more experienced one. So if she's
34:48
the more experienced one, do you feel like she
34:50
bears responsibility for the level of attachment
34:52
that the young man has to her? Because we're
34:56
just switching the roles. She bears responsibility
34:57
for turning him out? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Because
35:03
whenever you turn, I mean, you've turned somebody,
35:05
I'm sure you've turned somebody out before, right?
35:07
You're no stranger to having turned somebody
35:09
out. And I'm not talking lifestyle. I'm just
35:12
talking about just period. Like you've turned
35:14
somebody out before. Okay. It's not a, it's not
35:26
a, it's not a Monday. They were cool. Tuesday.
35:30
They were turned out kind of thing. You know
35:33
what I'm saying? Like if your eyes are open,
35:36
you see it happening. Now, whether you choose
35:40
to acknowledge it or not, that's a different
35:42
story, but you see it happening. Like, it's usually
35:48
some type of gradual thing. Like, it's not instantaneous
35:51
for the most part. You can acknowledge it. You
35:56
can acknowledge it. Yeah, you can acknowledge
35:58
it. But if she is too far gone and nothing can
36:03
change, I mean, you know that you have turned
36:08
the tables in her life, and there is, like, I
36:14
mean, she's ready to give. everything up for
36:17
you she's ready to give up the husband she's
36:20
ready to give up she has a child she doesn't
36:22
even care if the husband keeps the child she
36:24
wants you that's all that she sees when she goes
36:28
to bed that's all that she sees when she wakes
36:30
up she comes to your job and and will find reasons
36:35
to stay there you know what i mean yeah that's
36:40
been through it brother been through it okay
36:43
you You get pulled from your job for 30 days
36:48
for an investigation because of that shit, okay?
36:52
We're going to circle. I just want you to know
36:54
we ain't just going to glance over this. On the
36:56
next podcast, we will circle back to that because
36:59
that is one hell of a story. Yeah, yeah. I got
37:04
pulled from my damn office for 30 days. To this
37:10
day, I still don't know exactly where I was sitting.
37:13
for 29 days until the investigator came and told
37:16
me that the other ladies who wrote statements,
37:22
who I was guilty as hell because I was sleeping
37:25
with them too, but they had too much to let go.
37:30
So they wrote statements that made me look like
37:32
Mickey Mouse. They really did. And I got out
37:38
of that shit because of that. They could not
37:41
find... anything to prove that i was doing what
37:45
you know allegedly but was i doing it yes i was
37:48
doing it Absolutely, what's fucking? I was doing
37:55
the same job. I hope the statute of limitations
37:56
is done. I was Dexter's same job, brother. I'm
38:01
trying to tell you right now. The part that he
38:03
looks out is he was doing it well. Just for the
38:07
listeners, we ain't talking about no legal shit.
38:09
We talking about ethical shit. You know, a lifestyle
38:11
situation that went sideways when the wife was
38:14
like, hey, I want that dick to be mine. And she
38:17
was willing to ruin the man's career. Yeah, yeah.
38:21
You know what I'm saying? And this happened twice
38:23
to me. Two times. Happened twice. I do not deserve
38:28
the title of super dick. He deserves the title
38:31
of super dick. Happened twice on two different
38:36
freaking installations. It happened twice. Happened
38:40
twice. And both of them, one ended in, later
38:45
on, ended in divorce. And then the other one,
38:48
they ended up leaving, going elsewhere. But later
38:51
on also, they divorced also. So, you know. So,
38:55
Mike, was it his fault? Was he the more experienced
39:00
one? Was I the more experienced? Yeah, I was.
39:11
The dogs are judging you, B. The dogs are judging
39:14
you. The dog is like, nope. I'm not saying that
39:21
it's an easy thing to accept that responsibility.
39:25
I'm not saying it's an easy place to get to and
39:29
to do so in a flippant manner. But you asked
39:33
me my opinion. And I'm always going to put the
39:36
onus on the person who's seen it before, the
39:40
person who has more experience. Now, part of
39:45
that is, you know, and maybe it's unfair, but
39:49
I don't run from that responsibility. And the
39:54
bulls that I know, the cats that I fuck with,
39:57
they don't run from that responsibility. So,
40:00
yes, I hold people to that standard. I'm not
40:06
saying it's fair. I'm not saying it's right.
40:10
But that's what I do. And if you fuck with me,
40:13
that's what you're going to get. When I run dealing
40:18
with a new couple, I come to that conclusion
40:20
pretty quickly of who's the more experienced
40:23
person in this scenario. If it's them. I move
40:30
accordingly. If it's me, I move accordingly.
40:35
When I find that it's me that's in that position
40:37
of more experience, you best believe I'm very
40:40
much aware of every move that I make. Because
40:45
I don't want shit to get complicated. I do agree
40:50
with that. Is it your fault? I take it as my
40:56
fault. Oh, so when shit goes sideways, you take
41:01
in the heat. Yeah. Because I'm looking at it
41:05
like I didn't do, I didn't have my eyes on the
41:09
prize the way I needed to. So what if there's
41:13
a couple, what if it's a couple that's masterful
41:18
at hiding those tickets? What if it's a couple
41:22
that's like, they're not letting you know, they
41:24
got all kinds of turmoil. What was that? They
41:27
got all kind of turmoil in the background, but
41:31
you don't know about it. Okay. Yes, sir. But
41:41
you asked me that question, so I'm going to answer
41:50
that question for you. Yes, sir. I'm not saying
41:55
it's impossible. I'm a hard person to hide shit
41:57
from because I ask a lot of fucking questions.
42:01
You know what I'm saying? And it's not just that
42:03
I ask questions, but I'm listening to what you
42:07
say. I'm listening to what you don't say. You
42:11
know what I'm saying? Like, I don't ask questions
42:14
just to ask a question. Like, I'm asking a question
42:16
to see how you answer it. What are you omitting?
42:21
I mean, what are you copping to rather quickly?
42:23
So, again, I can be fooled just like anybody.
42:25
I'm not a super nigga. But it's not easy to do.
42:36
It's not easy to do. So if you're going to play
42:40
that role, if you're going to lie, if you're
42:43
going to be deceitful, I'm going to make you
42:45
earn that bread because. Like I said, I'm asking
42:51
questions, and if you answer a question, I'm
42:53
like, hey, well, that's not consistent with what
42:54
you said before. You know what I'm saying? Or,
42:58
you know, I've told many a chick. I've known
43:02
chicks for years, and she'll use a phrase the
43:05
first time, and I'll be like, that's the first
43:06
time you've ever said that. Why did you say that?
43:10
What was different about this conversation that
43:13
made you say that right now that didn't happen
43:15
in the previous two years that I've known? So
43:18
I'm always going to question shit. Bitch, stay
43:22
away from the dictionary, bitch. Yeah, I'm...
43:26
Put this as far as that. Do not better your education.
43:34
You stay simple when you talk to me, Mitch. That
43:39
name got my daddy's blood on it. Come right here
43:45
with the big -ass words. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
43:53
I had to throw that in there. So to answer Socrates'
43:57
question, I'm not saying that it's not impossible.
44:00
I mean, I can have game run on me. It's not the
44:03
first time. But if you do run game on me, you
44:08
are going to be really, really, really good with
44:10
it. Like, I'm not going to make it easy. I'm
44:13
not going to make it easy on you. So the really,
44:16
really good couple ran game on you. I haven't
44:20
met them yet. I'm not saying it's never going
44:23
to happen. It hasn't happened yet. In a fictional
44:25
world. I'll give you an example. This is not
44:28
lifestyle. I'll give you an example. It's not
44:29
like you thought of some galaxy far, far away.
44:32
Shit. Yeah. No, I'll tell you something, but
44:35
this is only reason why it's not, is this not
44:37
lifestyle. So I've never told this story too.
44:40
So, um, there was this, uh, Mr. Mocha slipping.
44:47
You got a sound effect for everything else. But
44:49
you ain't got a sound effect for no new drop?
44:51
He just said he ain't never said that before.
44:53
Hey, look, I'm too busy getting nervous seeing
44:58
which direction this is going in. I don't know.
45:00
Like, wait. I'm sorry. Hold on. Let me find something.
45:06
I got nothing yet. I got one, I think. Let me
45:09
see. Some Funkmaster Flex new drop? Some new
45:11
hotness? Something? Hey, look. I got one. I got
45:16
one. What you got? I don't know if it's appropriate.
45:22
We don't do appropriate here. Y 'all act like
45:24
y 'all ain't never listened to a mixtape. Let
45:28
me tell y 'all a new story. That's all I got.
45:37
So, it was, now that I think about it, oh, there
45:44
you go. Now I think about it, I'm like, Yeah.
45:48
Okay. So I wasn't lifestyle. I wasn't calling
45:51
myself a boy. But I met this couple at my job,
45:55
you know, say the job. And the husband, now that
46:00
I think about it, was always like, yeah, man,
46:02
you know. I was promoting in a nightclub. And
46:05
he was like a video. He was one of the first
46:10
VJs that I met. So he was like trying to teach
46:14
me VJing. And he was like. My wife really thinks
46:17
you're cool and she can go get some graphics
46:20
and she can do this and she can do that. Long
46:23
story short, she ends up falling for me. And
46:27
I was like, I didn't do anything with her. I
46:30
was like, look, like, you know, I don't want
46:33
to get involved in this kind of stuff. Right.
46:35
So she was just like, but it's your charm. And
46:38
I've never been with a black man. And, you know,
46:40
I don't, you know, you know, my husband don't
46:42
talk to me the way you do all this kind of stuff.
46:45
It caused a lot of problems, a lot of problems
46:48
between the two. You know what they did? They
46:50
up and moved because of me. And I never told
46:54
that story because I felt really shitty about
46:56
that. And I always think, well, what did I do
46:58
wrong? They upended their whole fucking life,
47:01
moved to Arizona because, you know, the job I
47:05
had had jobs in Arizona and they had jobs in
47:07
New York. And I was in Calgary. So my point is.
47:12
They were married for a long time. I was a single
47:15
guy. I didn't have no skills. I was just in a
47:19
different, I was just a completely different
47:21
experience for her. And she had enough gum shit.
47:25
She had enough ethics in her relationship to
47:28
be like, if I stay around this dude, it's going
47:32
to be some problems. So we need to get away from
47:34
him. And I'm like, I'm not the only brother in
47:38
that town where I live. It's about 40 % black.
47:41
So I'm like, I don't know what you're talking
47:42
about. What do you mean? But she took it on herself,
47:47
and they both took it upon herself to leave town.
47:49
My plan is, like, you guys got to vow. You guys
47:54
made commitments some on, you know, till death,
47:58
right? Till death do us part. We want to do this.
48:02
My thing is, how am I responsible? Because I'm
48:04
mastering my craft. Well, you're wearing your
48:07
lifestyle then, so that's not even... But I was
48:11
mastering my craft. My point is, I'm mastering
48:14
my craft. It ain't my fault if what I'm doing
48:19
disrupts your life. It's not my fault. I didn't
48:24
make no commitments to anybody. How is it my
48:26
fault? I'm just trying to be the best bull I
48:28
can be. I'm trying to be the bulliest bull in
48:31
that book. Based on what you just explained to
48:34
me. Was it instantaneous? Like, was it one day
48:37
she was cool and the next day she was, or were
48:40
you just like, nah, I'm not seeing what I'm seeing.
48:43
Nah, she don't really mean that. Like, was there
48:46
some denial on your part where it's like. Yeah,
48:48
yeah, I did. I did. Yeah, yeah. Okay. That's
48:52
where it comes in because as an ethical bull,
48:55
you don't dismiss those signs. Right. Yeah, you
48:58
got those signs head on. Like, oh, okay. I see
49:01
what you're doing. Nah, we're going to nip this
49:04
shit here in the bud right now. But what if I
49:08
try to nip it, and then she's like, nah, you
49:11
don't want it. What if I say, nah, man, we ain't
49:14
doing this. She can't rape you. Trust me, you're
49:18
going to take it away eventually. Eventually,
49:21
they're going to go look elsewhere. Now, that
49:24
can take a long time, but you can't wait. It
49:30
can take a while. Yeah, but it'll happen. Listen,
49:35
if you're doing it, here's the thing. I'm not
49:40
saying you can't throw your marriage away. I
49:42
can't control you throwing your marriage away.
49:45
What I can control is you ain't going to throw
49:47
it away for me. You know what I'm saying? Like,
49:51
I can remove myself from the equation. If I got
49:55
to ghost you, if I got to ignore you, whatever
49:58
the fuck I got to do. I can remove myself from
50:02
the equation. It's late at night, and I'm sitting
50:05
home horny, and I see that text message. It's
50:09
up to me if I want to respond to that text message
50:12
or not. That is true, but they can also get crazy
50:19
and foolish and start, like I said, coming to
50:22
your job. I feel like a fucker. I know, but I'm
50:26
just saying how that can get. You know how that
50:30
can look. You know what I'm saying? Somebody
50:31
knocking on your door at 3, 3 o 'clock in the
50:36
morning. You just came from the club with a chick,
50:38
and they out there banging on your doggone door.
50:40
I know you in there. I know you in there. You
50:42
know what I'm saying? That's not a good look.
50:46
I understand what you're saying. Yeah, I'm still
50:48
not going to do such and such. But the things
50:50
that can happen before she finally says, you
50:54
know, forget it. If she ever says forget it.
50:57
But my thing is, like, the responsibility, I
51:02
mean, either, maybe I'm a scumbag, okay, because
51:07
it's already established. Yeah, clearly, because
51:14
someone else is, it's like, if my wife comes
51:20
home and says, hey, there's some dude at my job
51:22
who's falling in love with me and he won't get
51:24
out of my face. I'm not going to be like, hey,
51:27
that's your fault. You don't bear any responsibility
51:31
for another person's emotional state. Now, I
51:36
do agree with Mike. So I was using that to compare
51:40
to Socrates' situation with the lady because
51:43
he said he felt guilty that they moved out of
51:45
state. I felt bad. I mean, you didn't put no
51:49
dick on her. You know, wait. According to you,
51:53
you didn't give her the meat. You know what I'm
51:55
saying? You might have gave it to her. I'm fucking
51:57
with you. I'm fucking with you. I'm fucking with
52:01
you. In that context, in that context, but in
52:06
the lifestyle context, you know, here's the thing
52:11
that I advocate for. I believe that everyone
52:17
should have the freedom. To take responsibility
52:22
for their emotional state. If the second that
52:27
I have the ability to look at somebody in their
52:30
face and go, hey. You're not emotionally stable
52:34
enough to be in this lifestyle or situation.
52:38
Now, I can say you're starting to make me feel
52:42
an uncomfortable attachment, at which point I'm
52:45
a pull away from that. To me, I would definitely
52:48
do. However. When I'm looking at some bull, because
52:55
I love to say it's only the inexperienced guys,
52:58
but over the last two years, I've had multiple
53:02
conversations about multiple bulls who are experienced
53:06
and are known in the lifestyle who formed an
53:12
unnatural attachment to a wife within a couple,
53:15
her and him both, being what I would consider...
53:19
I would and the husband would definitely consider
53:21
unethical. Do I think that he is doing some scumbag
53:27
shit? Absolutely. Do I agree with it? I do not.
53:32
Do I think that the husband should be mad at
53:35
him and not the wife? Because the husband is
53:38
telling me, you know, that fucker, he did this,
53:41
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, he knew
53:44
how she feel. And so now he's not mad at her.
53:50
He's mad at the dude. I don't believe that any
53:55
person outside of relationship should have that
53:58
much emotional responsibility because either
54:01
you're strong enough to be in the lifestyle emotionally
54:02
or you are not. And if you're not strong enough
54:07
to be in a lifestyle, anybody can take you or
54:11
any situation can take you. It may not even be
54:15
the bull. The bull may just be the catalyst.
54:18
So am I going to thank you? Thank you. Am I going
54:25
to tell somebody else to take emotional responsibility
54:28
or accountability for someone else's actions?
54:33
No, I'm not going to do that just because I wouldn't
54:37
do it. I'm not going to blame it. And if some
54:40
someday some dude came around and my wife decided
54:43
she'd rather be with him, it would break my heart.
54:46
But. I can't look at him as the bad guy because
54:51
he didn't break a vow. I got a heart. Hey, I
54:57
got a heart for that one. God damn it. That's
55:00
my soft spot. So, hey, look, fella, we in deep
55:07
on this. We like two and a half hours in. You
55:11
got to do this in like two, three parts. Yeah,
55:13
we have. Y 'all eating up my memory card. Yeah,
55:17
we almost three hours into this one, man. I think
55:21
we forgot that we was recording. I can say that.
55:24
I forgot that we was recording. Hey, hey, I was
55:29
online. I had to go online while we was talking
55:31
to order an SD card because y 'all blew mine
55:33
all the way up. I ran out of space. Yeah, it
55:37
was like an eight -mile stretch. Don't worry,
55:39
I'm still rolling. I'm still rolling. I got the
55:42
big boy card over here for y 'all. Don't worry
55:44
about it. Hey, no. No, no. No, Brian is super
55:51
dick. Hey, I can't take that mantle. I can't
55:55
take that mantle. Listen, hey, I done had some
55:58
crazy situations. You can't run from your destiny.
56:00
You can't run from your destiny. Hey, look. Hey,
56:05
look. Hey, he had two chicks try to get him knocked
56:09
off. On two different installations. Uh -uh.
56:12
He the winner. He is the winner. I mean, I'd
56:16
have had a chick tossing lawn chairs around in
56:19
my front yard, but that was just between me,
56:21
her, and my neighbors. You know what I'm saying?
56:26
All right, fellas. Hey, let's wrap this thing
56:31
up. We'll do a sound off on Mr. Mocha from the
56:35
Old Faces podcast. And for me, this segment will
56:39
be on our cutting board episode, which we're
56:42
probably going to wind up breaking up into three
56:43
parts. Gentlemen. Hey, man, this has been real.
56:55
I think this is the first time that all the brothers.
56:59
have been, you know, together in a long time.
57:03
And I'm looking forward to continuing this because
57:06
this is something we can talk about damn near
57:08
all night. Really. I can't speak for y 'all,
57:13
but for me and Mr. Mocha, this is a Wednesday.
57:15
Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like work. Yeah, I know
57:17
it is. I know it is. I know it is. It's indeed
57:20
been a pleasure sitting here just listening,
57:23
you know, to the three of you guys go at it and
57:26
then, you know, cutting in when I can. But definitely,
57:30
though, we're going to have to continue this
57:31
another time. And I'm really looking forward
57:34
to it. No, absolutely. Absolutely. Mr. Mocha
57:37
noticed is one of the big reasons why I love
57:38
him. We can go in each other's neck for two hours.
57:44
And, you know, sometimes we agree. Most of the
57:48
times we agree to disagree. But I always love
57:54
the fact that he challenges me. I mean, and it's
57:57
like, okay, motherfucker, let me see how much
57:58
you believe that shit you're saying. Ditto, ditto.
58:02
Yeah, I like to think I do the same to him. Absolutely.
58:07
So it's that whole iron sharpens iron thing.
58:10
So, you know, I'll release this on some version
58:13
of the China shop. And so we'll make sure we
58:17
catch people from all sides. No matter who they
58:19
listen to, they're going to hear this. It's a
58:22
long time. I don't know if they're going to stick
58:23
around for the whole thing. Hopefully they will.
58:27
Like I said, I think it got to a point where
58:29
we forgot we were recording. Yeah. Just having
58:35
fun. And we need to fellowship more often just
58:41
like this. You know what I mean? Regardless if
58:42
we are recording or not. Indeed. Well, Mr. Mocha
58:47
won't let you talk for more than 10 minutes before.
58:50
He says we need to be recording this. Correction.
58:56
As soon as there's the slightest bit of disagreement,
58:59
it's like, okay, we need to be recording this.
59:01
That's because we didn't talk for five hours,
59:03
man. We was like, hey, we probably should have
59:05
recorded that. Yeah, no, no. We definitely let
59:08
some gold slip out of the way by just being lazy.
59:11
But no, sometimes, like B says, sometimes I just
59:14
want to talk. Yeah, I just want to close it,
59:17
man. We don't always have to record, but it's
59:20
always fun when we do. Until next time, fellas.
59:23
I mean, it's your podcast, so you got to be the
59:26
one to sign off. Socrates ain't signed off yet.
59:30
Socrates, what you got to say, baby? Yeah, yeah.
59:34
Socrates signing off. And I think what we'll
59:37
do as the producer, I think we're going to put
59:40
this on the bull table, but I'm not sure if that's
59:43
going to be the title of it. But that will be
59:45
on that segment as well. So, yeah, it's a pleasure
59:49
as well to be in the presence of these masters,
59:52
man, and me to sit under y 'all's feet. And I
59:55
want to say this, too. You're at the table, bro.
59:58
You're at the table. Yeah, well, that's right.
1:00:00
Yeah, that's true. To be at this table and to
1:00:04
have an input with these brothers is just a pleasure.
1:00:09
I'm still working on mastery. I can't claim master
1:00:12
yet. Yeah, me either. But, you know. All right,
1:00:18
man. Okay, well. Brian was the only quiet one,
1:00:21
so we'll say. Hey, Brian didn't jump and say,
1:00:28
you don't call me that. Hey. He is the older
1:00:32
brother. Yeah. Brian is big, bro. Hey, he a vet.
1:00:37
He can't let his younger brothers know that he
1:00:40
don't know everything. Hey, look, I don't know.
1:00:45
You know what I'm saying? I don't know everything,
1:00:48
man. That's why we need the fellowship like this
1:00:50
more often. You know what I'm saying? So we can
1:00:52
come together and put all these great minds together
1:00:56
and all these thoughts together and stuff, man.
1:00:59
Because here again, we're all at a point in our
1:01:02
lives now where we need to be giving back. We
1:01:05
need to be teaching. These younger ones. You
1:01:07
know, they're talking about younger ones. And
1:01:09
even the older ones who just don't have the experience
1:01:11
yet. You know what I mean? They're just getting
1:01:13
into it. We need to be teaching. We need to be
1:01:17
teaching. All right? This is the world that we
1:01:19
live in. This is the world that we live and love
1:01:20
24 -7. And, you know, we ain't going nowhere.
1:01:23
This is who we are. And that's what younger cats
1:01:26
can learn. You can bust balls and learn at the
1:01:28
same time. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. That's
1:01:32
why I love this. Because I know you two motherfuckers
1:01:34
are going to go at it. I know y 'all are going
1:01:37
to go at it. We live for this shit. I know y
1:01:41
'all are going to go at it. You know what I'm
1:01:43
saying? We live for this shit. And I can't wait
1:01:46
until Pagan is on the other line also. You know?
1:01:51
Good luck tracking him down. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:01:54
You done said that. He must be hard to get. He
1:01:58
must be hard to track. That's Pagan, a .k .a.
1:02:01
Milkbox. It's like he's on the side of the milkbox.
1:02:04
There you go. There you go. We're going to fish
1:02:05
him up. There you go. Hey, once he hears this
1:02:09
one, he's going to show up. He's going to be
1:02:12
mad he missed this one. He's going to be mad
1:02:14
he missed this one. All right, fellas. Good deal.
1:02:17
Love y 'all. Well, hey, man. It's been a pleasure.
1:02:21
It has really been a pleasure. And as I usually
1:02:25
say on our podcast, you know, for the brothers.
1:02:29
of the brotherhood out there uh good night and
1:02:33
for all those sexy hot wives good morning That's
1:02:42
that boom baby girl shit I was talking about
1:02:45
right there. He wanted to close up by wetting
1:02:49
up some panties real quick. Let me wet some panties
1:02:52
before you wrap this thing up. You know the context
1:02:57
of what he means when he says good morning. That
1:02:59
means I'm laying behind you and I'm just going
1:03:00
to reach over and just say good morning in your
1:03:02
ear. You know me, brother. That's that ism as
1:03:06
we call it down in the South. You know what I'm
1:03:08
saying? That's that ism. But ladies and gentlemen,
1:03:11
we hope you have enjoyed this podcast for the
1:03:13
night, this episode for the night. And here again,
1:03:16
we will talk to you soon. Everybody, good night.
1:03:19
Good night, fellas. All right, kill it. Three
1:03:21
hours of my night talking to y 'all, motherfucker.
1:03:39
This brotherhood's for men whose stories need
1:03:42
to get told. Say it loud. Oh, say it loud. This
1:03:46
is who we are. Old, confident, and seductive.
1:03:50
Dominant and classy. We stand tall, never fall.
1:03:54
Bull brotherhood. Luxury untold.