Latest / ABJ / ABJ Podcast Ep 49 Mr Sam
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- 2:12So we have 49 happening right now.
- 2:15Episode 50 will be this Thursday, what kit raft?
- 2:18I'm sorry Tuesday, tomorrow, my days are all over the place,
- 2:21tomorrow kit RAV4. Episode 50.
- 2:23Episode 51 will be on Thursday with Cosmic.
- 2:26And then on Sunday, we'll wrap up the month with Ricky price.
- 2:29So this week, I'm giving you for podcast for for a guy who just
- 2:32quit a week ago. Here's four.
- 2:34Loads for you. So I don't want to know no more
- 2:36smoke from Ali is. Alright, the next month I have a
- 2:40whole line up. A lot of people confirmed, maybe
- 2:43if you guys are good little boys and girls and social media, I'll
- 2:45give you some teasers on who's coming very, very soon.
- 2:48Without further Ado, I want to bring in somebody who I worked
- 2:50with at Shore, Star Wrestling pro wrestling after dark.
- 2:54He's big on the Jersey. Seen a, you know, it's how can I
- 2:59say, I always pick on him when I was on commentary, but I don't
- 3:02want to do that right now. But he is he is the definition
- 3:06of old school and he has a great story.
- 3:10I'm gonna bring in my guy here mr.
- 3:12Sam From The Trenches, a BJ. Yeah, I walked, I walked I
- 3:21walked a thousand miles to get to you.
- 3:23I guess, what's that song I will walk 5,000 miles, my car broke
- 3:26down, it was it was like walk really far joke and I'm fat.
- 3:29And I hate that fucking dad jokes but I'm the dad here.
- 3:33That's great. I know.
- 3:34I know, I know. So, how you doing, man?
- 3:38Friggin superb, man. I'm so stoked.
- 3:40I went through. You had your own emotional
- 3:42rollercoaster, which I don't want to like compare mine too,
- 3:46but I was so stoked for this interview last week.
- 3:49I was to messages with you. You ghosted me for a couple
- 3:52hours. I was like, is it going to
- 3:53message back? I don't know.
- 3:55So when my car broke down I was literally walk.
- 3:58I would sit in my car and I was like that, well, I walked home
- 4:02and then I messaged you just to give you a heads up and then the
- 4:05rest of the day, I On the phone with a tow truck company trying
- 4:08to get my car off the side of the road and take it to a garage
- 4:11so I can figure out what so that was literally most of my day.
- 4:13So I wasn't ghosting you. I was just I was in like
- 4:16recovery mode all that crap. He was talking, it was weird.
- 4:20He's got real heat. Yeah, I got it.
- 4:25You know now you mention it. I got so many things to talk
- 4:27about just based off that. But first of all, can we talk
- 4:30about that that you talking trash about me on the on the
- 4:33mics? Absolutely.
- 4:35Yeah. Let me say something.
- 4:36First of all, Phenomenal. You your boy you guys do
- 4:41phenomenal work. We appreciate that.
- 4:43I will say this. That first time you saw me do
- 4:47that interview, the one that you keep talking about ever give
- 4:51this guy a microphone, which given me a microphone right now.
- 4:55So thank you. Yeah, you got to understand 12
- 4:59years out of the business first time on the mic already nervous.
- 5:0330 seconds before I go out there, I get were, do you also
- 5:07got to talk about? Pilot Halloween parade and
- 5:10everything else happening. Dude, my mind was spinning and
- 5:14in my mind it was short and sweet touche, brother.
- 5:17It was a long one. I may have also have consumed
- 5:25three or four or five beers on commentary that show.
- 5:28So I was I was feeling it. I was in the zone.
- 5:30We talked about beer for a second.
- 5:31We can talk about her all day long.
- 5:33You're a connoisseur in my right, love me some beer.
- 5:35You mention orange drink before. Hmm, I do.
- 5:38You know, I know, you know, your crafts.
- 5:40Have you ever heard of vinyl brewing and Hamilton?
- 5:45I don't think I've heard of that one.
- 5:46I do know of another vinyl place, like, it's a brewery that
- 5:49there's third thing is, you bring your own vinyl and they
- 5:51play it and then everyone kind of Vibes in the brewery and
- 5:53listen to vinyl all day long as much as I love that.
- 5:56I love this one even more because it's run by this guy
- 5:59named Jim Sacco. I'm actually training right now
- 6:01and wrestling. This dude made a bar based off
- 6:05of punk, rock and pro wrestling's.
- 6:07I'm in. I mean Once I get my car fixed,
- 6:09we'll meet up and we'll record an episode drinking their beers.
- 6:13That's what's up. That's what's up dude.
- 6:15Orange drink. It's delicious.
- 6:17Love that love that. Yeah love me some beer but yeah
- 6:19you so you came out made your return.
- 6:21You got in the microphone and I think the first thing I said was
- 6:24holy crap. Just incredible looks amazing
- 6:27dude you know I get that on the street I'm sure someone
- 6:31randomly. Yeah.
- 6:31You look like Justin credible, you probably don't know.
- 6:34I'm like actually I've seen Justin credible About four or
- 6:39five months ago he wishes he look like you still once once
- 6:44they say I look like him, I start googling and I was like
- 6:46it's not today's just incredible that I'll tell you what I seen
- 6:49Justin credible and didn't know I was in the same room as just
- 6:52incredible. He's got that documentary,
- 6:55right? He's making a film about his
- 6:57deal. I don't know much about him.
- 6:58Is it dark side of the Ring? Because it's Jesus.
- 7:00Yeah guys, guys been through some stuff but it's a pro
- 7:03wrestling business. This business just beats the
- 7:04crap out of me and I'm not shooting on the guy.
- 7:07Just you just, you know, Age caught up.
- 7:09You know what, dude, it does beat the crap out of here.
- 7:11It does, mentally and physically.
- 7:14Yeah, the mental part, I wouldn't even mind talking about
- 7:17at some point in this interview, because I'm a pretty thing,
- 7:19brother. Listen, man, going from a place
- 7:22where I was before I'm training with, Steve Kern.
- 7:26Do you know Steve Kerr Nez? Yeah.
- 7:28All right. I heard of him.
- 7:29Yeah, Skinner. I mean, but he did a ton of
- 7:31stuff down. South awesome.
- 7:33Teacher also, Jimmy, Delray, who is an interesting due to say the
- 7:37least, but But just being backstage, back then, as a kid,
- 7:41someone's grew up just like, any worker man, someone who just
- 7:45dreamed of being a pro wrestler. One day and you get there and
- 7:48you see, Marty jannetty training in the ring, you're about to
- 7:51train in and pick an edge shows up and Big Show, and I'm
- 7:54training with the freaking Big Show and Steve Kerr told me
- 7:57something. The first time we got there.
- 7:59He said, Sam not the first thing you don't want to be as a mark,
- 8:04okay? Like, okay, that makes sense but
- 8:07to 18, Our old me. That was that was a heavy load
- 8:12because I was still a mark. So when I meet Edge, when I meet
- 8:16Eddie Guerrero, I can't be myself because I'm so focused on
- 8:20trying to be professional 12 years later man.
- 8:25Four kids. Later business life, dude, I can
- 8:29go in there as a 40 year old man.
- 8:32And I'm just hey young. If any of you youngsters are
- 8:35watching, this is the only wisdom I'm going to drop on you
- 8:38because I wish it's something someone told me back in the day.
- 8:42No guarantees man, Booker my light.
- 8:45You you might make it to the fed.
- 8:46You might make it anywhere but if I'm going to give you one
- 8:49piece of wisdom, Something I wish I did back in the day and
- 8:53I'm doing it right freaking now. 40 years old and that is to have
- 8:58fun. It sounds simple, but when
- 9:00you're worried about things, when you're worried about what
- 9:02people think about, you more than anything, are you going to
- 9:05get booked for them? Next, why did they booked me,
- 9:08man? Don't they know?
- 9:08I'm starting my life as a kid and when you get there you
- 9:18better enjoy it because it goes friggin quick.
- 9:20Yeah. And, and no matter, no matter
- 9:23how good, how talented they will, someone can come and
- 9:27cheaper, somebody can come in and, and sell a couple more
- 9:29tickets and your spot. Could be gone as quick as it
- 9:31was. It was yours.
- 9:32It is a lot of enjoy while you're there.
- 9:35Yep. Yeah dude, I remember one time I
- 9:37was bringing in I was bringing it all my college friends.
- 9:41I mean I'm talking about dozens of people chanting my name so
- 9:45much so that my tag team partner and I David Mercury we got to
- 9:49have a title shot tag. Title shot in NWA Florida
- 9:53against Antonio Banks, who is currently MVP and Scoot Andrews
- 9:58and we won the titles. Guess what happened?
- 10:01Once my college friend stopped showing up for title is real
- 10:07quick vote. Yeah.
- 10:10Back in the day that ate me up today.
- 10:13Like for example, Shore star. They weren't going to book me at
- 10:16the last show. Old Sam would have been like
- 10:19damn why not? It would have eaten me up all
- 10:22day but new Sam is thinking bummer time to reach out and see
- 10:26who does want to book me. I'm Gladys shit that they did
- 10:30book me because I'm a big, you know.
- 10:32I'm a big fan of shore star and I definitely want to talk about
- 10:34that at some point, but yeah, well, maybe we can say on that
- 10:37topic if you want. Well, that's essentially how we
- 10:39met you. We were doing a lot of work and
- 10:41Shore Star had a lot of fun matches.
- 10:43Had a Falls Count Anywhere somewhere match.
- 10:48Yeah, you knew I knew going into that as soon as I chalkboard was
- 10:52gonna get pulled over someone's head.
- 10:54I remember being next to you guys and, and we'll pull the
- 10:58curtain back a little bit. I remember someone, someone
- 11:00saying, well this cut you and, you know, I don't tell you and I
- 11:03look like a that's gonna cut them, it's gonna cut a 100%, And
- 11:10he got a big, not a huge gas, but it definitely scratch them,
- 11:14dude, it's soon as I. Yeah, guilty, man.
- 11:17I was like, He just fine. Yeah, it's like nothing.
- 11:27I was just like, yeah. It was fun, though.
- 11:34You and me, you and me, you and Joe clean.
- 11:35I will keep calling him, mr. Clean but copyrights going to
- 11:37get me. Joe clean.
- 11:39I had a really fun match. How did you?
- 11:41So we kind of talked a little bit, your training and stuff.
- 11:43How did you become? Well, let's start with the
- 11:45normal that you how I normally start this off.
- 11:48Earliest memory. And when did you fall in love
- 11:50with professional wrestling man? I'll never forget it.
- 11:53It was probably six years old, right?
- 11:55And back in the day, it was prime time.
- 11:58I don't know. It was probably for your time
- 12:00and I'm sure, you know, all this shit.
- 12:01So anyways, it's Prime Time and Out.
- 12:04Come the friggin Bushwhackers as happened to turn it on.
- 12:08And at the time, shoutout to Vinnie, I am a die-hard Ninja
- 12:12Turtle fan, anything. Yeah.
- 12:15Oh yeah. Mikey for me all day and I'm
- 12:17going to jail. Casey Jones right on that
- 12:20allowed? People say that first.
- 12:21I like that respect but what was I talking about?
- 12:25Oh so Bushwhackers. I don't know how we got from
- 12:28Turtles. The Bushwhackers all of a sudden
- 12:32there's these two guys The Bushwhackers are facing.
- 12:35And in my mind, these two, these two dudes are way bigger than
- 12:38The Bushwhackers. I'm a kid.
- 12:40Like anyone else who's getting picked on?
- 12:42And I wanted those smaller Bushwhackers to win but I think
- 12:45they had a chance. Sure enough.
- 12:48They hit the battering. Ram one, two, three and I wanted
- 12:52to do it. Boom, that moment of course, I
- 12:55went to my mom and she let me know about Santa Claus
- 12:58immediately afterwards and it didn't even faze me.
- 13:01I was like, I don't care. I want to do this.
- 13:03And from then on, man, every raw every snack down at the time,
- 13:08but anything I could get in wrestling.
- 13:10I was Obsessed obsessed. Obsessed of course did the
- 13:15backyard deal. My freaking poor friends, man, I
- 13:19used to make them all. They all got hit with chairs and
- 13:21stuff I made them. It was my life and if you were
- 13:26around me it was going to become a part of yours.
- 13:29So there's nothing I want to do more than become a professional
- 13:33wrestler. I grew up my original.
- 13:36Favorite was Texas tornado and I love Texas.
- 13:39I have a text from your T-shirt. Dude, you're going to show me
- 13:43that and I know all of a sudden he was just gone and I was like,
- 13:47where's my favorite found out years later.
- 13:50But then, I grew up with Bret and Shawn and eventually went on
- 13:54till like The Hardy Boys type stuff and just never fell out of
- 13:58love with wrestling. And eventually my, I was doing
- 14:02really bad in school. I hated school, which is weird
- 14:05coming for from principle but my parents told me they're like,
- 14:09look, either you go and work. Your hands out there somewhere,
- 14:14or you go and get college degree and will pay for you to be a
- 14:17professional wrestler. And I ended up in Tampa at the
- 14:21School of Hard Knocks with guys, like David Mercury, who right
- 14:24now is training at Jay Lethal School, Damian Angel, Eddie
- 14:28Torres. Who still in the game?
- 14:30I mean, t, bolt, the list goes on and on to those guys, Steve
- 14:33Madison. It was a good, the stories from
- 14:37School of Hard Knocks, we're crazy and you never knew who was
- 14:41coming in, man. You never knew if you were going
- 14:43to be training with Eddie Guerrero, you know, the Big Show
- 14:46just these guys who could teach you so much but like I said, man
- 14:49I did not take advantage like I should have of those of those
- 14:53opportunities. Yeah.
- 14:56So yeah, it's tough man. I how you're saying before the
- 14:59whole the whole don't be a mark thing.
- 15:00Like, I kind of try to conduct myself the same way.
- 15:03Like, when I go to a promotion, I'm a content creator.
- 15:05And I was hired for my content, and I get hired for the what I'm
- 15:08doing right now. But when I show up at a
- 15:10promotion, I don't try to run around.
- 15:12And make it about me. And I don't try to like scream.
- 15:14Hey, look at me, look at me, I'm a Content guy.
- 15:16I when I, when I walk into a promotion, I put my banner down
- 15:19and I fly, there's I'm there to a job, you hired me to be your
- 15:22commentary, you how to me do this.
- 15:23So my job isn't there like my job is to essentially make sure
- 15:27the show flows better with me. Not at me, not hindering it.
- 15:32So like I'm not going to pull somebody aside and say, hey, can
- 15:34we walk over here for 2015? 20 minutes.
- 15:36So I can get an interview with you or can I do this during
- 15:38intermission and get an interview with you because that
- 15:4015-20 minutes backstage. Age.
- 15:42You can put your match together. You can have an experience.
- 15:44We can just be having, we can be living in the moment and not
- 15:46through a camera. And then your intermission time
- 15:48is the time for you to make money.
- 15:49So why am I pulling away from that as well?
- 15:51I think a lot of people don't do that and it's tough, you know,
- 15:54and then, you know it, but I do kinda get where you're coming
- 15:57from, and it's tough, man. It's because you do see people
- 16:00that you idolize and you respecting your like I'm a fan,
- 16:03but I have to got a tote that line, you know?
- 16:06Yeah, yeah, first day at wrestling school.
- 16:08It's like what the fuck my hero isil of the Rockers.
- 16:11There's Marty jannetty. Yeah.
- 16:13Marty and I was like you were the reason I'm in.
- 16:16I'm a professional wrestling fan.
- 16:17Like I first time I seen wrestling was you?
- 16:19And Sean. And I was hooked are and I'm
- 16:21sorry. I'm more hooked on Shawn the
- 16:22new. But you were my guy too.
- 16:24So I was like I'm sorry I was rooting for Sean to put you
- 16:27through that window. That's literally what I told him
- 16:32but the Rockers I still go back and watch old rockers stuff it's
- 16:36and dude you know it's like I mean Marty jannetty I'm
- 16:39thinking, holy crap, there's Marty jannetty then I get to
- 16:42know Marty jannetty. I'm like okay stories are true.
- 16:46Yeah party. Marty oh my god dude.
- 16:48That guy. I thought I was gonna get
- 16:50arrested with him if he's if he's a fun following social
- 16:53media to you get to hear stories behind bowling alleys and stuff.
- 16:56It's crazy. Yeah.
- 16:57But like what you were saying, man about your role and how you
- 17:01play it so well and I'll say from my own experience.
- 17:03It's only been three times, but I love the way you and your boy
- 17:06player rolls. I mean, not only on the mics
- 17:10which the dynamic the way Put the wrestlers over you make, it
- 17:13feel like it's real, it's really good.
- 17:17And the way you conduct yourselves around the workers is
- 17:20great and this is why I'm sure star guy because I'm seeing that
- 17:25around Shore Stars. Well, I got to give a shout out
- 17:27to Vinny because back in the day, I did not have a Vinny
- 17:31backstage running the show. We're truly feel that he wants
- 17:36us to be part of a well-oiled machine.
- 17:40That is not about me or him. Him or his puppet or you or
- 17:44anybody. It's about all of us working
- 17:46together. I never heard that back in the
- 17:48back in the day he is he is the best locker room leader.
- 17:52I think I've ever worked with in this business I'm not I haven't
- 17:55been in a very long but he is, he is the epitome of a locker
- 17:58room leader, Vinny Vinny Chen's. Oh is 100% a gem in this
- 18:01business and should be treated as such.
- 18:04And damn dude for his age, 94 is a just for he moves.
- 18:08Well in that ring man he's pretty damn good work out there.
- 18:12Yeah I know I'll never have a bad thing to say about any
- 18:14chance of any chance was my guy forever.
- 18:16We have a question in chat, look questions, already coming in,
- 18:18please keep him going everybody. Well then the sex got I just
- 18:22wanted to say that like that's why I'm a Shore star guy because
- 18:26I'm not 25 year olds who are trying to make big if I get
- 18:31recognized and they put me out there, that'd be a dream come
- 18:33true. But coming back after 12 years
- 18:36and getting to do this in front of my family in front of my kids
- 18:39and knowing that could still do it and still get Pops from the
- 18:42crowd, perhaps even steal a show.
- 18:45Like well, I'm gonna have a show in my backyard in my town at my
- 18:50summer camp. Like I said have fun and this is
- 18:53all the fun I could have. I don't I don't care about going
- 18:57to that place for this place or how many shows they get booked
- 18:59for if Shore started the shore, star doesn't want me for
- 19:03whatever reason. I would be super Were bummed,
- 19:05but then I'd find one other place but I'm not going around.
- 19:07Looking for 1,000 bookends, I got four little kids at home.
- 19:10I'm scared best with what I got and make every single match
- 19:14count. Absolutely.
- 19:17Well actually, if we get the question quick, I wanted to kind
- 19:19of piggyback off what we talked about there for a second.
- 19:21So you became a fan, you kind of said, you went down to that
- 19:23school and wrestled and stuff like that.
- 19:24What was the reason that after, you know, your years in the
- 19:27business that you did step away? Ha so as a plethora of reasons
- 19:35just to run them through, it's like for one I had a lot of
- 19:39concussions, like I just kept getting hit in the head for
- 19:42whatever reason dropped by. You know, some workers aren't
- 19:46trained, very well. I was dropped on my head by some
- 19:48really good friggin. Never take a powerbomb from
- 19:50Roderick strong. That dude will knock you out so
- 19:55many, many concussions, I moved to New York and you know, the
- 19:59State's politics and stuff, I hate to say about, like it got
- 20:03to me, I became very bitter about wrestling looking back.
- 20:08I loved my matches but I hate how it was backstage.
- 20:11I wasn't a dick or anything, but I wasn't myself.
- 20:14I wasn't show people who I really am.
- 20:16And I am part of the team. My last match.
- 20:19What I thought was my last matches. 12 years ago, I flew to
- 20:23Florida my stomping grounds. Now, supposed to tag with my old
- 20:26partner, David Mercury, but he was getting pushed.
- 20:29To get a title shot that night. So I got to face this dude, I'm
- 20:34not gonna say his name but he's the hairiest dude you've ever
- 20:37seen and if you've ever worked with a dude whose gimmick is
- 20:41being Harry, so you rub your face in it and you're doing all
- 20:45this in front of a crowd that is completely dead all night.
- 20:49It's a very depressing way to aim a lot of the wrestling so I
- 20:54got to ruminate over that for 12 years dude I have a here, we got
- 20:59you could work. Make up for it, he's hairy, but
- 21:01he's very, very, very, very, very talented.
- 21:03I guarantee the crowds not dead. If he's on the ring, all right,
- 21:06man. Maybe he can make me change.
- 21:08My mind about this Header by it. But so what ended up happening
- 21:14was so 12 years go by. I'm just hating wrestling for a
- 21:18while. Didn't watch it for like eight
- 21:20years, then my kids are born and like like got to show them this
- 21:24right in back into it. I'm learning about the Finn
- 21:27balor's out there. I'm seeing this new because I've
- 21:30been watching it's different, it's different, a lot of ways.
- 21:34So one day I get booked to be a host of a Halloween Fest because
- 21:39of pro wrestling. I've learned how to work a
- 21:41crowd. I get booked for all these
- 21:43things. Thank you, pro wrestling, for
- 21:44that. And I find out that at this
- 21:48freakin Halloween festival, is a pro wrestling show.
- 21:52I looked at my wife and my kids. I'm like guys, like would you
- 21:55want to see me in there? Like one more time, dude.
- 21:59They jumped off the couch jumped on me, they're like, you've
- 22:03gotta do it. You gotta do it and then, the
- 22:05freakin show. Got rained out, man.
- 22:08So, got rained out. I got gear, I got in shape,
- 22:11everything a whole year passes the show's back.
- 22:16I get booked. I've been going over this for a
- 22:18year and even though a little rusty, I didn't train.
- 22:24I didn't get in a ring. I haven't worked with anybody,
- 22:27but I got out there and I'd like to say we worked a match.
- 22:32I'm very proud of that. Yeah, there's a good show.
- 22:35Thank you dude. Thank you.
- 22:36It's on. I debut TV.
- 22:37Check it out pro wrestling after dark.
- 22:39Can we talk about IW TV? When the hell is the next match
- 22:43coming out, dude. Yeah, you know, it's actually
- 22:45cool about that show too. If you go back and watch that,
- 22:48that was the first time. I don't put this out there
- 22:50because I don't want to get booked for it ever because I
- 22:52hate doing it because it really makes me nervous and I'm not
- 22:56very talented. That was that entire show?
- 22:59Production top to bottom was me. I added it and did it entire
- 23:03show. That was my hard camp.
- 23:06That was my commentary and then Chad walked around with a cell
- 23:09phone and cell phones, every single match as a Rover.
- 23:12And then I spliced the roving to the hard Cam and a synced, all
- 23:15the audio and put it all together and put a show out and
- 23:17IW TV. Well, played you deserve a Barry
- 23:21Horowitz. I don't like to put that kind of
- 23:25stuff out there, but I was very like I wish I could have like I
- 23:28learned a little bit after like how to do like lower thirds and
- 23:31stuff and I wish I would have had that and I didn't but like I
- 23:35got by it's a watchable show. I enjoyed it.
- 23:38I watch it sometimes. Hey that was that was that was
- 23:42the power of a BJ right there and the power of a BJ, put
- 23:46smiles on my little Diabetic son's face because you guys
- 23:52might not know this. I know I told you a BJ, but
- 23:55like, he wears a fanny pack. We even got a WWE title fanny
- 23:59pack the other day. Yeah, Iraq wants to do.
- 24:02He keeps all his diabetes stuff in there, so a BJ.
- 24:05So cool to every time my kids go out there, he always mentions
- 24:09the fanny pack. So when Casey here is that he
- 24:11gets very happy. Yeah I might I think I have
- 24:14fanny packs on sale on merge page.
- 24:17I'll have to hit you. I have to get Address, I'll send
- 24:19them a fanny pack, what it, that's awesome.
- 24:22What is it about fanny packs? Can you tell me?
- 24:24I sold my fanny pack, carries my business cards, my stickers, my
- 24:29GoPro, and then I have all my wireless mics in it.
- 24:32So I just take it all with me. So if someone has to record or
- 24:34everything are they need a sticker or something?
- 24:36It's in my fanny pack, it just convenient because you have to
- 24:40take the backpack off and then get into it for any packages
- 24:43right in front convenient. And then you can wear it like as
- 24:46Rambo, you know, I mean you could do the whole Rambo deal.
- 24:48You can put either well different things you could do
- 24:50with a fanny pack. Yeah, any packet is fanny.
- 24:55Pack it up everybody. That's my stranger things.
- 24:57Fanny pack. I always wanted a JanSport
- 25:00backpack because I was always poor my whole life and then they
- 25:03came out with this really cool JanSport book bag.
- 25:06And then I also seen they came up with a Jansport fanny pack,
- 25:09but if you notice, it's upside down because in the stranger
- 25:11things, the upside down, and then it has the, the deme Gordon
- 25:15Hunter, and then it has the hellfire club.
- 25:18Bob and then it has like a little six-sided die.
- 25:21I never played Dungeons & Dragons, but also my earbuds
- 25:23when I go to shows if it's really loud I put ear buds in
- 25:26man, Anthony might be a bigger nerd than me.
- 25:29I'm a huge nerd, a giant nerd. All right, so let's get this
- 25:33first question here. So people in the chat know, we
- 25:35do questions and keep them activating.
- 25:37Keep them engaged. Where's your favorite place to
- 25:40wrestle? Your service, my favorite place
- 25:44to wrestle. Well, I haven't Wrestled a
- 25:47million places other than a million places in Florida.
- 25:50I've been to the southeast of South north east of North.
- 25:53I've worked in Philly worked in Jersey.
- 25:57I got to go back to my stomping grounds.
- 25:59I'm going to Tampa Florida. It's the place where Hogan's
- 26:02from Randy was from. It's a good wrestling Town,
- 26:06Steve Kern. And then all my boys are there.
- 26:08So Tampa. Florida, baby.
- 26:11Let's keep the Florida question, live.
- 26:13Ask him about the time. He wrestled in a garage in Boca
- 26:15Raton. I said there, I think there's a
- 26:17wrestling promotion in Florida right now.
- 26:19Boca Raton wrestling. I've heard about it really.
- 26:22Yeah, the venue looks really cool and I think it's called
- 26:24Boca Raton wrestling. If it's really, really cool,
- 26:27it's an awesome venue. It's like dark, and the lights
- 26:29are all bright. It looks really nice.
- 26:31Yeah. Boca Raton is very luxurious
- 26:33place but my time and backyard wrestling dude.
- 26:38I like I said, Earlier I forced all my friends to come in.
- 26:42I was going through flaming bar, dude, I never I never had blood
- 26:46once in a wrestling match, but in my backyard days, I was going
- 26:50through backyard through a flaming barbed wire tables.
- 26:53Trying to do Swan times off the highest thing, basically, just
- 26:57torturing my friends. That's what it was all about.
- 27:00And dude oh this is a little disclaimer about backyard
- 27:04wrestling so I would it was it was a the magic man going up
- 27:09against The cricket and what the Magic Man didn't realize is the
- 27:14Cricut had never taken a powerbomb.
- 27:16And of course, like every backyard or should be doing a
- 27:19powerbomb. So, I, you know, I gave him that
- 27:21pile driver position, right? I go to lift him up, but rather
- 27:25than sitting up, he grabs my pants and I'm trying to get him
- 27:28up up up. And dude, by the time I let go,
- 27:32he is completely vertical to the ground and he takes a one-man
- 27:37pile driver from two feet. Off the ground.
- 27:41But he lived to tell the tale. He learned a valuable lesson as
- 27:46a retired. Shout out to you Cricket.
- 27:53Also huge, thank you to Amy Adams for subscribing, over on
- 27:56the YouTube side. Appreciate that.
- 27:57So much. If you are watching, please hit
- 27:59those likes on YouTube as well as that subscribe button, we're
- 28:02on that quest for 1000 subscribers.
- 28:04We're getting close. I think this 700, I think I
- 28:06think that's what it says, 700 still not enough.
- 28:08Yo, show a BJ, some love and subscribe.
- 28:11Tibe, and a little shout out, ha ha, Amy, that girl, who sent a
- 28:16question back in the day, if you wanted your music played, we
- 28:21brought something called a compact disc and they had to put
- 28:24it in and choose the music. I want you to try to guess how
- 28:29often they got it, right? Got the music, right?
- 28:3275%, you have to queue up, everyone's tape to their spot.
- 28:39It's a nightmare, it was a nightmare unless the Great and
- 28:42Powerful. Amy Adams was behind that disc
- 28:46player, she got the music, right?
- 28:48And she would travel with us. I mean, she wasn't even a part
- 28:51of wrestling, but she was the biggest part of our lives in
- 28:54wrestling. So, yeah, that's uh, every
- 28:56wrestler should have an Amy in their car, not driving with
- 29:01them. Don't just hold it my buddy that
- 29:04I do commentary with as well. A lot of BP he travels with me a
- 29:07lot and he was another one that we just try to be like, we show
- 29:10up at a show were like, hey what do you need?
- 29:11And they're like tonight, we need this and then like well we
- 29:14could do it and like have you ever done it before like all the
- 29:17time and then we just go wing it and we successfully get it done.
- 29:20And then on the way home or like, That was Harry.
- 29:25So that happened with BP. We he came in there, like will
- 29:28be P. We won't have a spot for you,
- 29:29but we need someone to man The Music.
- 29:31If he's like, I can do that. And he's like I've never done
- 29:34this before. So not only did he do music for
- 29:37the show. We were supposed to do but then
- 29:39he was recruited to do sound for the show after which end up
- 29:42being iwt, be 100, which had the wheeler yodok.
- 29:45Daniel Garcia match had an orange Cassidy in a card.
- 29:48Like the card was loaded and he's doing music for it.
- 29:51I just like, you know, I don't envy you, At all.
- 29:54I was like I was having anxiety attack for him but one while
- 29:58I'll success in the end. Yeah.
- 30:00He was ring at. He was music and Bell which is
- 30:03like the first two things people.
- 30:05Notice if you fuck up, I'd lose my mind props to that guy.
- 30:12Yeah, so far, hey, dude, how many times on the flip side?
- 30:16Have you seen people in this wrestling business?
- 30:19Try to do shit on the Fly and it is just Wrestle crap.
- 30:24Yeah. All the time.
- 30:26Imagine trying to have to call that.
- 30:27And and make it really sound good on commentary.
- 30:31So dude, let me ask you a question.
- 30:34A very selfish question. Yeah, here I am, man, I'm
- 30:38amongst these kids like some of those.
- 30:40I don't remember the tag team name, but these two black dudes,
- 30:42they are phenomenally MD. Bro, even my Prime, I wish I
- 30:48could have moved like that, but then you got old man.
- 30:51Sam coming out. Third match against old man.
- 30:55Joe clean props to you, Joe clean.
- 30:57You can love Brooklyn. I'm a joke clean.
- 30:59I'm a joke clean Mark. Yeah, dude.
- 31:01Yep, as you should be, you know tear it from a guy on the
- 31:05outside. I know you're a brutally.
- 31:07Honest guy, what do you think, dude?
- 31:10No, I'm not. I haven't wrestler all.
- 31:11I know or my family loves it. And yeah, so I am on the the
- 31:15Russian of professional wrestling is.
- 31:19And the person, I think who broke this down the best.
- 31:21When he was Anthony Green. Anthony, Green said wrestling is
- 31:24the Muppet Show and, and like a good variety show.
- 31:28You need a little bit of everything.
- 31:29You need new school. You need old school.
- 31:31You need comedy. You need spooky.
- 31:33You need, you need, you need to be scared.
- 31:35You'd be fun. You need to be laughing.
- 31:37You need to be crying. There's a spot for everything in
- 31:39professional wrestling. And if you do an entire show, a
- 31:41strong style four matches in, you've seen everything, you're
- 31:44going to see in your or bored. If you do an entire show of
- 31:46Comedy, you know, maybe you'll stay entertained because the
- 31:49comedies there. If you do a whole show is
- 31:50spooky, it just too much if you do everything the same, I think
- 31:53you have that old-school, ECW ish.
- 31:57I'm going to do something crazy but you know, like it's there.
- 32:00You have a place for. I think, I think you bring that
- 32:02style of wrestling that you're going to do a little more crowd
- 32:05work, then you're going to do a flip.
- 32:07You know what I mean? And I think, and I think
- 32:08sometimes that's where the younger generation messes up.
- 32:11Is they want to do all the flips and jumps, and all that crazy
- 32:14stuff. But they forget If there's a
- 32:16that the play to a crowd where, I think you come out and
- 32:18immediately get the crowd involved, because that's the
- 32:21old-school mentality. And, and I, and I think having
- 32:24that old-school people in the locker room with the new school
- 32:27and them saying, hey man, if you just took a second and stopped
- 32:29and just play to them for one second, you'll pull them back
- 32:32into the match. And I think that's good to have
- 32:34in a locker room. I think it's good to have, you
- 32:36have people like you in locker rooms to kind of bring that
- 32:38balance of meeting the two together.
- 32:40It's not saying one's right in one's wrong.
- 32:42So, I think a lot of old school Veterans will tell the new
- 32:44school, Kids that they're idiots and they're dumb and what
- 32:47they're doing is stupid. But, you know, your generation
- 32:49probably had that to where they're like, yo, what are you
- 32:51guys doing this for? You know what I mean?
- 32:53And instead of telling everybody who's right, who's wrong, meet
- 32:55in the middle and, and, and, and make it work, you know what I
- 32:58mean? And, and find a way to
- 33:01incorporate the two, dude, I'm really glad you have that who
- 33:05said that, who's the person has a week?
- 33:07When Anthony Green, said, the whole Muppet Show thing but that
- 33:09essentially what, like the whole meeting in the middle, is like I
- 33:14get a lot of heat. My friend because I'm not a
- 33:16journalist, Jim cornette guy, not a Bret Hart guy.
- 33:18And I think the thing that pisses me off both mold boast,
- 33:21most about both of them, is they always brag about the bricks
- 33:24they've laid to get there, but they're always trying to take
- 33:26them up as they walk away and I don't like that.
- 33:30Yeah, I constantly struggle with my my, my hero as a child, some
- 33:36of the stuff I hear nowadays with bream.
- 33:38Yeah, he's just tell he tells us if you're so and passionate and
- 33:42love this business, then why would you go like, Jim?
- 33:45Cornet gets more people to hate the business that are fans of
- 33:48the business, and all the fans of the business, all they do is
- 33:51trash it and say, why they hate everything that they're
- 33:53watching. And then they're also like,
- 33:55like, how are you expecting to grow new fans, and grow this
- 33:58business, and make more new fans if everything you're doing is
- 34:01hating on everything you're watching.
- 34:02Yeah. Like if you're an outside person
- 34:04like why would I watch that? You're a die-hard fan and you
- 34:06hate it. Why would I watch it?
- 34:08Yeah, I can't agree with Jim cornette Em.
- 34:10I'm on your side, like there's so many aspects of wrestling
- 34:14like I'm not Into the death matches but I respect them.
- 34:18Yeah, look place for it. There's a place.
- 34:20I'm not even into the heist when I was younger and I love seeing
- 34:23some cool spots. I was in the high spots.
- 34:25Now I watch and I think like, I need a little bit more story.
- 34:29It's not for me but I think there's an awesome place on the
- 34:32cart guys. There's an awesome for the
- 34:35brutality stuff and for a guy like me, who, you know, I am
- 34:39beat up at this point. I had my, you know, 10 12 years
- 34:42in wrestling and I'm older now. So here's The cool thing.
- 34:46What I learned in wrestling, how to work a crowd?
- 34:49I have brought with me in every aspect of my life, from him
- 34:53being to write from teaching to putting on shows to even
- 34:57one-on-one conversation. I bring my pro wrestling with me
- 35:01but now because I've gotten to do that so much, I've learned
- 35:05how to quote, unquote work a crowd without doing a wrestling
- 35:09move. So now even though I love
- 35:12putting on some cool moves, I can go out there do too.
- 35:15Cool moves, maybe even just one and still have the crowd pop
- 35:19just as much as they would have as it had.
- 35:21I done 10, cool moves and do that with personality and with
- 35:24connecting with them. And yeah, it feels good.
- 35:28And you tell add one more thing, dude, I'm sorry, just you
- 35:30telling me first of all, is my mind ecw's not old school but it
- 35:35is. And the fact that you're
- 35:37comparing me to that kind of thing.
- 35:38I take that as and you see a lot of matches.
- 35:41So, I take that as a massive compliment.
- 35:42I'm gonna like easy, W like, besides a bun, RVD, everything
- 35:48that you really seen was kind of like a, like, you're just like
- 35:50the top rope body, Splash are the top rope but you're not
- 35:53doing a front flip, you're not doing a backflip, you're what
- 35:55you're, what, you're jumping off the top rope into somebody,
- 35:57like, that's what I mean by the old school.
- 35:59I can still like, holy crap. That's crazy.
- 36:01But it's not the 450. It's not that you're safe, but
- 36:04you're still doing something death-defying.
- 36:06If that makes sense in an old school term, nowadays people are
- 36:09doing for 50s and you see people jumping springing off the ropes.
- 36:12So what that's like the newer way of doing it but like, you
- 36:15still There's, there's like, Jimmy's people look at what
- 36:18Jimmy Snuka didn't he did a body Splash off the top of a cage,
- 36:21get the hell out of here. Like, I mean, like, but I've
- 36:24asked for back in the day that yeah, another thing too high,
- 36:27you're saying is bringing it. Once you learn this this
- 36:30lifestyle and this business and learn and learn the business and
- 36:33learn the kayfabe like and you take it in the real world, you
- 36:36dominate The Real World, you really do.
- 36:39If you learn this mind state in this and work the business and
- 36:42and play a character. And a while that the real world
- 36:45is not. Not as it can get a lot easier.
- 36:48So that's so interesting. When you say it, because if you
- 36:51think about it, you're you're improving in the ring and a very
- 36:55high levels of very high stressful situation.
- 36:59And if you can get through a 15-minute match where maybe you
- 37:02lost yourself in the first minute and get through and still
- 37:06have the audience in the palm of your hands shit man, going to
- 37:10the bank teller, whatever it is. The next day is so easy, just
- 37:13normal life situations. So easy.
- 37:16And you know what else is easy is being the center of the room.
- 37:20If you need to be, if you're at a business meeting whatever, you
- 37:23know, how to make people feel something, all right.
- 37:27You can are you can point out of Mark you can point out of money
- 37:30man. You can you can you could point
- 37:32out, you can point out that the problem in the room, you can
- 37:35point out that the best person the room.
- 37:37You, you know, when someone's being fake or being Carney,
- 37:40there's a lot of things. You learn this business that
- 37:42when you go out the real world, it's like, oh I see you.
- 37:45I see what you're doing. Young man, just lived a
- 37:52business. Leave the business.
- 37:55Yeah, what about you? We got questions but I'll let
- 38:01you go ahead. I'm just curious about you dude.
- 38:03I know you went through some Difficult situations with the
- 38:07company that I love and it bums me out because I love the people
- 38:10there. John.
- 38:11All those people mad but I'm a big fan of them but I know you
- 38:14had your own deal with them. Like what are you gonna do?
- 38:17Cuz I you sound like you were. We've all been there man.
- 38:20Like it sounds like you're down and out why?
- 38:23I don't want to misconstrue the to I wasn't leaving podcasting
- 38:27or content creating because of what happened at Shore star.
- 38:29There are two different instances essentially what
- 38:33happened there is this we had a disagreement On on on things.
- 38:37And I don't want to sit here and say I don't want someone to be
- 38:40around and I don't want someone to be given an opportunity
- 38:43because I would never look at like a young person who's trying
- 38:46and be like, I don't want that person there because we're not
- 38:48talented enough. That's not what I was trying to
- 38:50do but I feel like our locker room at sure.
- 38:53Star can everyone conducted themselves?
- 38:55A certain way and everyone treated themselves a certain way
- 38:57and everyone brought something to the table that was positive
- 38:59and it was good for the young kids that were there.
- 39:01And and the environment that for the people that we are putting a
- 39:04show on for And I just felt like they were going to bring people
- 39:07in are you know person in that I felt like didn't fit that Vibe
- 39:11and I didn't feel like they fit the locker room and I felt like
- 39:13that person that was going to come was possibly going to bring
- 39:16another person that they roll with.
- 39:18That was inappropriate with a personal friend of mine and I
- 39:21just didn't stand for it and and listen to pay days are great.
- 39:24And and the locker room was great and I love that locker
- 39:27room. And every single member of that
- 39:28roster. I've considered a family and and
- 39:30the fact that people hit me up and said, like, they felt like
- 39:33two guys on commentary were Backbone of the company, feels
- 39:36amazing to hear. And the fact that we were like
- 39:39locker room leaders, but at the end of the day, you kind of, you
- 39:42know, I don't I'm not going to say I'll live and die on my
- 39:45hill, I'll have a conversation and I'll figure out what I did
- 39:47wrong. And I'm listening to, I'm always
- 39:49down to talk about it, but it just, it's just when you, when
- 39:53you go and you make a complaint, are you going?
- 39:57You make a hey, this is how I feel, and you're being told.
- 40:01We feel the same way, but then those feelings go on.
- 40:05Facebook and they're used against you and made fun and
- 40:07your made fun of without the tag being there.
- 40:09But, you know, it's you because you just got out of conversation
- 40:12with them, I felt that was disrespectful and I felt like we
- 40:15deserved better. Just being honest.
- 40:17That's definitely. Yeah, I mean doing that shit
- 40:21online is definitely bad. Communication should have been
- 40:24like that. However, and I can go way deeper
- 40:28but I just feel like it would be me bashing them and me putting a
- 40:32bad taste in that promotion. And I don't want to do that
- 40:34because Again, I love in each Enzo, I love that locker room, I
- 40:38love you guys. I love every single person who
- 40:41walks through that curtain at that company because I think you
- 40:43all work your asses off and I think you have great
- 40:45storytelling there. I love.
- 40:46I listen, it's a 38. It was a three, almost three,
- 40:50and a half hour drive for me to get to Pete, then from Peak to
- 40:54shore star and we did that once a month or every other month and
- 40:57we did it with a smile on her face.
- 40:59And that's that's a day that's a, it's a complete day and
- 41:02almost a next day for us gone because we weren't getting home
- 41:04at some times until 4:00 5:00 in the morning and your next day,
- 41:08you're like, completely zombified.
- 41:10So, that's show is a 2-0 for us essentially and and mentally to
- 41:14do commentary. I'm not trying to do a wall with
- 41:15me, but, you know, you put yourself through a spectrum of
- 41:19emotions and a commentary. You you go from funny too scared
- 41:23to concern too excited too. And by the end of it, you're
- 41:26beat your drained. You know what I mean?
- 41:28And then you add the car rides and you add everything else.
- 41:30Like we were proud of that promotion and we loved it.
- 41:33We, when that promotion first started That's like that
- 41:36promotion was started on. Hey, here's our commentary team
- 41:39and then here's the roster. So we were proud of everything
- 41:42that was happening there. And it sucks that it's not a
- 41:44thing anymore. But it is what it is.
- 41:47When one door closes, another one will open.
- 41:51I do Wonder, Man, if that door could ever reopen, I'm not a
- 41:55part of this point P side here. If you have a concern, come talk
- 41:58to me, we'll talk about it. And that's what we did.
- 42:00We follow those rules and not everybody conducted themselves
- 42:03that way. The fact of the matter is Is
- 42:05that like when I watch my match or any other matches going back
- 42:09to what you were saying before? Like, I don't feel like you guys
- 42:12take over the show on the flip side, I don't think you're one
- 42:16of those commentators are so damn awful, that you can't stop
- 42:19listening to them because they're distracting.
- 42:21You guys are that perfect mix. So like it's a big loss and it's
- 42:27a damn shame. I hope whatever happens works
- 42:29out and yeah yeah, I don't think you do.
- 42:32But you regret speaking up about this or, you know, know Listen,
- 42:36I if there's one thing, my Italian Irish blood will never
- 42:38be sorry for standing up for what I believe in.
- 42:40All right, and it wasn't just for me, it wasn't like, it
- 42:45wasn't just, this was me and Pete had a concern and no one
- 42:48else had the same concerns. It wasn't like we were the only
- 42:51ones who felt the same thing, but it also comes down to people
- 42:55one opportunities and people want to work and people like the
- 42:57payday and people. I my whole life consider it
- 43:00right right now. I have no car.
- 43:02I'm broke as shit. I have sixteen dollars in My
- 43:05bank account. So I'm not motivated by money.
- 43:07I've been poor my whole life. So, so a Payday for a wrestling
- 43:11show does not over, does not does not sway me from for
- 43:15standing up for what I believe in.
- 43:18It is what it is. All right, right on and we're
- 43:22still I still will hundred percent support the company.
- 43:24I'll watch the company, I'll check it out like that guy on
- 43:37the people who I had a disagreement with.
- 43:39I have no ill feeling towards most of them.
- 43:43Like, I'm cool with Chad, I mean, like, I, it is what it is,
- 43:47it just? It's so, it's disappointing,
- 43:49we'll just It's disappointing, I guess the yeah, but it is a
- 43:54license but they have they're going to be in good hands.
- 43:55They did they did they put some new commentary in there?
- 43:57And I'm sure they're going to be great.
- 43:59There's a lot of very talented people in New Jersey seen and
- 44:01they'll do it just fine. But I appreciate you saying how
- 44:04you with us. I think a lot of times people
- 44:07say, oh well if you try to be too funny on commentary
- 44:10commentary is very highly scrutinized in this business.
- 44:12Almost more than the wrestling in the ring really. 100%.
- 44:15If you watch people on time all day, I hate this person on
- 44:18commentary and this goes from WB.
- 44:20Be all the way down to. Aw, they'll tell you who they
- 44:22like, who they don't like that. The ones who hate our way more
- 44:25vocal than the ones who have the love.
- 44:27Yeah, but here's the thing too. Is you get told on commentary,
- 44:31don't over shine. What's happening ring?
- 44:33And don't make it about yourself.
- 44:34But also, you want to develop you want to be par just as much
- 44:37a part of the show as a talent in the ring.
- 44:39So if you just lay back and you're a boring baseball
- 44:41announcer, like, who's your favorite baseball announcer?
- 44:43Like, two people that people know, because they just blend
- 44:45in, and they have a normal voice, and no one knows who they
- 44:48are, but in professional wrestling.
- 44:50Jim Jim Ross will live forever. Tony Shivani will live forever
- 44:53because you they've made themselves just as much part of
- 44:55the show as anybody else. And I'm not like that's for me
- 44:58and Pete felt that line. I'm not comparing us to the
- 45:00grades but I felt like we made our spot where like, oh, I'm
- 45:04excited to hear them on commentary but also they bring
- 45:07something to the match and tell a story to make the match as
- 45:10good as it is in the ring. No, from someone on the other
- 45:13side. First of all, that's
- 45:14fascinating. I always think about how what I
- 45:16do in my eight to fifteen minutes is it Exhausting,
- 45:21mainly, because of all the fucking nerves that go on my
- 45:24sorry, if we can curse alive, Ben Carson, the whole time.
- 45:30Don't say, bad words. All right kiddos.
- 45:33So what were we going? You were saying about on your
- 45:38aspect, you're eight minutes, you have a lot going on.
- 45:42It's just, it's very exhausting, especially just getting nervous
- 45:45beforehand. I never thought about that, man.
- 45:47You're out there. Eight.
- 45:48Ten twelve matches. June, a wide variety of emotions
- 45:52that is exhausting of our few out.
- 45:54Yeah, it's a lot, especially if you're especially if you believe
- 45:57in what you're doing, if you're if I say it from a spooky
- 46:02character comes out and you just play it off as you played the
- 46:05last match. Oh, here comes a spooky
- 46:07character. I wonder what they're about like
- 46:09are you just know selda at their a spooky character and you
- 46:11completely diminish. The character you just lost that
- 46:14emotion for the character in the ring and the people listening at
- 46:17home, if something very serious has happened, Happening where
- 46:20there's a real hit tension in the ring were two.
- 46:22Best friends are finally fighting in there, fighting to
- 46:25The Bitter End. If you just play that dead, you
- 46:28just took away the intent and energy of the entire moment.
- 46:31It's like, it's like scoring music to a movie.
- 46:34You can have the same scene and put clown music to it and put a
- 46:37spooky sound track to it and you set the tone for exactly what
- 46:41that scene is going to be just by what the background is.
- 46:43And that's exactly what commentary should do.
- 46:45So how would you sell yourself? Who is a BJ?
- 46:48How is a BJ? Who is on announcer?
- 46:53I feel like a BJ is, is a BJ the entire time?
- 46:56I know I have been playing a little bit more of a heel is
- 46:58thing on commentary but but there is some truth to celebrate
- 47:03at man. Just yeah, there is some truth
- 47:06to some of my heel. Nourish if you give me an
- 47:08opportunity if you if you like I'm not going to call out a
- 47:11fumble in the ring. If you, if you have a botch, I
- 47:13hate that word or if you slip or something like this guy suck.
- 47:16I'm never going to Barry. Russell like that.
- 47:18But if you Stumble on a promo or something like that, like, I'll
- 47:22find something to pick on you for or a luck or something but
- 47:27it's essentially just to Define me as the heel and give Pete the
- 47:31feedback of the other person the ring.
- 47:33So and I switch it up. Sometimes the heel comes in the
- 47:35ring and I hate like, for example Bad Company.
- 47:38I love Bad Company. Their life, one of my favorite
- 47:41teams, I love them to death, but my my gimmick that I kind of
- 47:45just came up on the one show is, I hate bad company but I was the
- 47:48heel commentator. I hate them.
- 47:50Scumbags, these guys are jokes but I love Pete corvus and he's
- 47:53part of that team. And and where I kind of got that
- 47:56from personally was like, Bobby, Heenan Bobby.
- 47:58Heenan played a heel but he didn't like every heel in the
- 48:00ring he picked. And she like some put some
- 48:02heels. He didn't like huh?
- 48:06Yeah, Bobby Heenan, wasn't just right down the middle of you
- 48:09were a bad guy. I liked all bad guys, and if you
- 48:10were a good guy hated all good guys, Bobby played the field,
- 48:13but Bobby like some baby faces and wishes, they were part of
- 48:16his stable and and but he's some heels, he thought were there
- 48:19dirt balls. I try to flip it up and change
- 48:22it every now and then, I keep them guessing and who I like,
- 48:24and who I don't like, and then sometimes like yourself or some
- 48:27other people on the scene. They hear me talk crap and
- 48:31they'll met, they'll say something after.
- 48:32Like I wanted I want to do something with you now.
- 48:34Like you'll need a. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 48:43Yeah. So that that happens a lot are.
- 48:45Sometimes in the ring like the here he is right here.
- 48:48Crispy. Crispy is a young guy in the
- 48:50Ring and in his career and he's China struggle to find his
- 48:53character and I kind of roast them a little bit but it's out
- 48:57of love and then he realizes like the day.
- 48:58I give him props is probably going to be legitimate you know?
- 49:01I mean like like so but it's all respect to.
- 49:04So if I crap on somebody it's not that I absolutely hate you.
- 49:07Or I think you're terrible. I think I'm better than you.
- 49:09It's just I'm trying to play a character a little bit here,
- 49:11too, but I'm going to try to do it from a place of just I don't
- 49:14know, somewhat realism, but I don't know it's tough.
- 49:17I should find myself a lot of it just completely Improv From the
- 49:21man himself. In your opinion, you know
- 49:26commentator or if you want commentating team of all time,
- 49:31professional wrestling. Why like TV wise or like in
- 49:33general? Watch any sports?
- 49:35Oh yeah. Okay, why would I say if you
- 49:37want to Independent people or if you wanted like TV people now
- 49:41we're going TV. All right.
- 49:43So people automatically think I'm going to say Jim Ross and
- 49:46Jerry Lawler. That's not the answer because I
- 49:50J I thought Jerry Lawler was really good but I also Thought
- 49:54that he Jerry was a little too much sometimes and a lot of his
- 49:58stuff didn't age. Well I know it's going to be I
- 50:01wish aw would chop a little off their commentary team.
- 50:05I really like Excalibur I think he's a great play by play guy
- 50:09and I really like Shivani as the color.
- 50:12I think today's Jim Ross is not as good as a Jim Ross back then
- 50:16and it's not because of his, you know, his speech and stuff like
- 50:20that. I just like, I don't like Jim
- 50:22Ross tin today. He does women's matches because
- 50:24he liked These Girls Aren't playing with her Barbie dolls
- 50:27anymore and I'm like women's wrestling has evolved way more
- 50:29than that j.r. relax, you know. I mean like I really like
- 50:33Shivani and I really like Excalibur, I love you're
- 50:38throwing Shivani in that mix. I love Shivani.
- 50:41I love Shivani a lot. I also really like like Graves,
- 50:45I like Corey Graves. I think he's a good heel
- 50:47commentary. I love.
- 50:48I love Michael Cole and I love Michael Cole now that he doesn't
- 50:52have Vincent his ear and he Be Michael Cole and I love Pat
- 50:55McAfee because essentially Pat McAfee, and I'm not trying to
- 50:58say it was me, but I was doing Pat McAfee before he came on TV,
- 51:03like a port pack back, if he is doing is what I was trying to
- 51:06replicate. I was trying to bring
- 51:07unapologetically me. I'm going to walk in with jeans
- 51:10and a t-shirt and just have fun and party and have a good time
- 51:13and and be me on commentary and then Pat Mac, if he was like, oh
- 51:17cool, I'm a podcaster who walked in your thing and I'm going to
- 51:20be unapologetically me and I'm going to be funny entertaining,
- 51:22but also Bring the emotion to amass.
- 51:24It needs to be there as well. So I know I like I like I like
- 51:28them. Another great one is literally
- 51:32was about to say his name and it just left my brain.
- 51:35Oh Joey Styles. Joey Styles ECW doing a show by
- 51:39yourself solo is the hardest thing you'll ever do in
- 51:42professional wrestling that dudes, the goat.
- 51:45The goat that one, I will totally agree with you on.
- 51:47Yeah you're a gorilla and Bobby are probably But my answer
- 51:54overall, my favorite commentary team of all time, gorilla and
- 51:57Bobby are gorillas, and gorillas, and Jesse was good
- 52:01too. Why did you wait so long to say
- 52:03those two those I wanted to give them an anticipation, baby,
- 52:06what? Yeah.
- 52:08But gorilla and Bobby are gorillas and Jesse are the are
- 52:11the are the three goats of all time the best and like not to be
- 52:15named dropping but of all the people at Kearns or just working
- 52:20shows that I got to meet and talk to There was no one nicer
- 52:26and more helpful to me than Bobby The Brain Heenan.
- 52:31He was talking to me like I'm talking to you right now.
- 52:34Just I was nobody, I was 18. I just done a shitty match at
- 52:38wrestling school and he was just talking to me and might have
- 52:42been for an hour and a half. I couldn't believe it.
- 52:44Yeah, I like that. That's probably I've been going
- 52:47back and watching a ton of that and I'm trying to implement more
- 52:49of that. I like the color side of things
- 52:52if I have to do play-by-play. Will, but I've been really,
- 52:54really watching a lot of Jesse Ventura and I've been really
- 52:56watching a lot of Bobby because the funny thing is too is like
- 53:00you go back and you read the dirt sheet.
- 53:02So you know, the inside information and Bobby and Jesse
- 53:05were saying that shit on commentary and it was like, if
- 53:07you knew you knew and the people who watched it loved it, and
- 53:10then people home we're still entertained, but like, why do
- 53:11you say that? You know what I mean?
- 53:13And I like to I like to throw that stuff in there too.
- 53:15You know, being like good stuffs, a little something for
- 53:19ya. Makes you pay attention on
- 53:21commentary more. Like, what's what's he going to
- 53:22say next? Yeah.
- 53:24Yeah dude. I really want to hear your
- 53:25commentary on my next match. I don't know if it's ever going
- 53:28to get dropped. You think episodes going to get
- 53:30dropped, which one, the one with the chalkboard that's still
- 53:34hasn't been put out yet. I haven't seen it anywhere.
- 53:37I, this isn't all that isn't on that new streaming site isn't on
- 53:40the new XPW thing. I'll have to look into it.
- 53:44I thought they move, I thought they moved it off of IW TV and
- 53:47they put it somewhere else. Oh God, I am paying $10 a month.
- 53:50All right, yeah. I've if I'm not mistaken that
- 53:53was the Move. I thought sure started where
- 53:54they took everything off there and they put they put it on that
- 53:56streaming service words like them, and a bunch of other
- 53:59things in the XPW. Yikes.
- 54:02See that guy lives self on fire, the other night.
- 54:05No. Yeah that's pretty dope right?
- 54:08They just did it. He did a spitting fire ball
- 54:09right into the front row of a crowd and then when he went to
- 54:12wipe his mouth, he wiped his mouth with the bottle with the
- 54:14what, the lighter fluid, it and lit himself on fire in front of
- 54:17a live crowd. Oh, he probably on fire for a
- 54:20good minute and a half. So I once again I love pro
- 54:24wrestling. I don't mind Deathmatch
- 54:26wrestling but also think of your Zone safety and the people
- 54:28around you. You ever see those are like
- 54:30putting needles through parts of your body.
- 54:33Why? I respect you.
- 54:36I don't respect. I don't respect, pulling your
- 54:39private parts out in a mansion sticking.
- 54:40Hypodermic needle through it. I didn't say I respected that.
- 54:43Yeah, and hurt yourself really bad on
- 54:56them, but if you know what you're doing with them, you can
- 54:58do it safely. You know?
- 55:00I mean, I was wondering if anyone ever like great this
- 55:02stuff in Probably has to be right Pete and long.
- 55:07Here's a question from Pete. What's a dream match for
- 55:09mustard? What do you say?
- 55:12What's a dream match for mr. Sam.
- 55:14Who do you want to work? Well, I actually think I'm going
- 55:19to be having my dream match coming up.
- 55:22So of course like my heroes are Bret and Shawn, that's not.
- 55:28And if you were listening to this interview, you'll know that
- 55:30I am in a very specific part of my career where I just want to
- 55:35have fun. And there's no one.
- 55:37I would have more fun with than to bring in my former tag team
- 55:42partner. David Mercury get his butt up
- 55:46here to New Jersey. And see what happens.
- 55:50This man has gone from our tag team to becoming one of the most
- 55:54evolved workers in Florida. Still getting ranked still
- 55:58teaching, still killing the game.
- 56:00One of my best friend, you know, he's the best friend along with
- 56:04Amy. I got out of the pro wrestling
- 56:06business. So my dream match, With, or even
- 56:11if we have to face each other, against would be with David
- 56:15Mercury. 100%, thank you for having passes.
- 56:18When you gonna man up and face, your old partner, who's still
- 56:20waiting to compete against you in the chat?
- 56:22There it is. You answer that question.
- 56:24Oh David, I'm right here brother, man.
- 56:39Brother. The only heat I still have with
- 56:42you but I still never got a snap Raceland just saying.
- 56:44Yeah. Mother.
- 56:45Yeah, that's that was part of our Feud.
- 56:49I was if Pete gold stars, I was going to give his kids
- 56:53everything and for you, you get nothing.
- 56:55Nothing, are you get nothing? Good day, sir, that's a good
- 57:01date. So, besides professional
- 57:03wrestling outside of professional nurses, you say
- 57:04you're teaching, you got your own little pod, cast set up.
- 57:07Let's talk about that. Let's talk about Things I do.
- 57:10Okay, here we go. So my town Hamilton's a small
- 57:13town and we do shows here all the time.
- 57:15So I'm part of an art club. I'm going to be hosting an art
- 57:17festival. I hosted a poetry session the
- 57:20other day. I have a an old podcast.
- 57:23I don't really do it. The pillars of Hammonton, where
- 57:25I interviewed the mayor and other important people here in
- 57:28town. I did a podcast about the 80s
- 57:33where we were interviewing heroes from our childhood.
- 57:35It was really cool. Got to talk to a lot of people
- 57:38from back in the day. Day.
- 57:40Doing a lot of charity work a ton.
- 57:42My son has Type 1 diabetes as we mentioned.
- 57:45So I'm constantly raising money for JDRF, we had Spring Fest
- 57:50here the other day. We raise ten thousand dollars
- 57:52while kids had a blasty blast, so and food more than anything.
- 57:56I'm friggin owning a school, a summer camp, the coolest camp
- 58:00around and raising four kids. So my plate is full brother, I
- 58:06feel that I feel that I don't have any kids think things.
- 58:11But it all sounds amazing, man, I'm in, I'm in the same boat.
- 58:13Like I'm not just the podcast, dude.
- 58:16I'm not just, the pro wrestling commentary guy, you know, I
- 58:19still love my music scene in the area.
- 58:21I try to support as much, local art, and local people, and let
- 58:24small business. I possibly can, I actually am
- 58:27starting my own hosting. My own Open Mic sessions here
- 58:31very soon in my hometown dude. So just give him some
- 58:34opportunities for people to come.
- 58:35Do a comedy or bring a guitar and plug in and play or come
- 58:39see. Sing.
- 58:39I'm a master Storyteller. So, come on up.
- 58:43I would love to. Yeah, this is what I'm talking
- 58:46about. You're living life, man.
- 58:48You're doing all the things you love.
- 58:50It would be really cool if you can make some more money off of
- 58:53it, right? Not Jesus gun.
- 58:57As I have my Devil, Tattoo, praising God.
- 59:09You're putting greatness out there in your living life to the
- 59:12fullest. So my goal man.
- 59:14My overall goal is I want I want to grow my brand.
- 59:17I want to obviously make this a, hopefully a living someday, but
- 59:21I want to grow this platform. So the point when I go live or
- 59:25when I have someone like you on more, people are exposed to you
- 59:29than they are me. You know what I mean?
- 59:30Like like if my brand grows that they already enjoy, what I do
- 59:34and they trust my judgment. As a person to say this is my
- 59:37person. This is the guest who is I have
- 59:39on this is who I want you to support and love and go and go
- 59:42support them and do what they're doing.
- 59:44That's that's why my brand is important to me because if I put
- 59:47myself around people who, I think are good people and people
- 59:50who are sharing good stories of that, that's that's key for me.
- 59:53Now, if I go and work with a bunch of derp all scumbags that
- 59:56I lose my credibility, you know what I mean?
- 59:58So, It's tough. It's a tough.
- 1:00:01It's a tough Balancing Act, indeed, and I'm glad you're on
- 1:00:06the up. Now, can I tell you my goal?
- 1:00:09Because I got one. I don't know if it's going to
- 1:00:12happen and if it doesn't happen, I'll be okay.
- 1:00:15But I have a goal and that goal is this, hopefully it's with
- 1:00:20Shore star. I want to I want to put a non
- 1:00:24enough good shows. I want to get the respect of
- 1:00:28those guys in the back enough, so that they give me a shot at
- 1:00:32winning a belt. And I know we'll have that
- 1:00:35sounds like the belt, so important, but this one wouldn't
- 1:00:38be for me. My goal shoot me.
- 1:00:41I want to get emotional with this not getting emotional.
- 1:00:46My goal is to have that belt so that not only all my kids can
- 1:00:51come in the ring with me, but more importantly, on my case,
- 1:00:55you do my son with diabetes to stand that ring with me and hold
- 1:01:01a belt above his high, hold the belt, high above his head, and,
- 1:01:05you know, just show the world that the champion you show the
- 1:01:07world, the champion that he is, so want to put on shows, I wanna
- 1:01:11have fun, but that is my number one goal is to have that one
- 1:01:15moment. Ain't ya.
- 1:01:17You're doing it for your kids at this point little bit for myself
- 1:01:20to I'm having a good time but hell out of it is for the
- 1:01:24kiddos. Yeah.
- 1:01:26Yeah man plus I'm sorry one more thing it is you're gonna do it's
- 1:01:30been so fun for 20-something Years.
- 1:01:33First telling people, I'm a wrestler then telling people I
- 1:01:36was a pro wrestler former but way cooler than telling people
- 1:01:40that you're a former pro wrestler is telling people that
- 1:01:43you're a pro wrestler. I take such brick and pride.
- 1:01:46And this career, hobby passion, whatever you want to call it, I
- 1:01:49take immense pride and it being such a huge part of my life.
- 1:01:54Yeah. Well listen man, we hit that
- 1:01:56I'll mark. I'll give everybody in the chat
- 1:01:58here a couple more minutes if they have any more questions or
- 1:02:00any any kind words. They want to put out to mr.
- 1:02:02Sam's admits that, while we're here, anything you want to work?
- 1:02:05Can people find you wear anything?
- 1:02:07You want to plug anything? You want to get out there?
- 1:02:08I asked her, I asked for his links and he said, I'm not
- 1:02:11giving you any links so I have nothing below for you to click
- 1:02:15on him. So I'm I want to have them
- 1:02:16verbally say what people should go support.
- 1:02:19I didn't give you nothing, double - I'm a teacher.
- 1:02:22I know. Sorry guys, the reason I did
- 1:02:24that is because of where I am in pro wrestling.
- 1:02:27If I make a Facebook page and this page, and that page, first
- 1:02:31of all, I don't understand the internet.
- 1:02:32Second of all, once that happens, I start worrying about
- 1:02:35likes and that BS. Which that's my problem.
- 1:02:39And why would I even do it to get booked for other shows?
- 1:02:42I don't want to get booked for other shows.
- 1:02:43I want to go all in with Shore. Tart.
- 1:02:46So if I ever have to promote myself more, maybe.
- 1:02:50But for now, I'm in the place I want to be.
- 1:02:52I'm working the show's. I want to work and I'm happy.
- 1:02:55So sorry to all you fans know Facebook page for today.
- 1:03:01Well actually the last one I did miss earlier.
- 1:03:02Scott says questions about anywhere in the world, you want
- 1:03:05to wrestle. Kind of answered a little bitty,
- 1:03:08kind of just want to stay with the shore star thing.
- 1:03:10But if the if the someone said that you can wrestle in any
- 1:03:13venue where you want to go, thanks, Scott for that question
- 1:03:17because I actually never thought about that.
- 1:03:21Yeah, I do have a place, I want to wrestle, it was like 10 years
- 1:03:25ago, my whole family up and moved to the great and powerful
- 1:03:29country of Israel. There's not a lot of pro
- 1:03:32wrestling in Israel and I would love to come out.
- 1:03:35Maybe two. My interest music could be like
- 1:03:38Hava Nagila or like Barry Horowitz used to do back in the
- 1:03:41day and do a whole Jewish thing. I'm Jus by the way and rock the
- 1:03:47Jew thing, go to Israel and do it in front of my nieces and
- 1:03:50nephews, and my parents and the family.
- 1:03:54I love so much. We're on the other side of the
- 1:03:56world, that would be a dream. I love that.
- 1:03:58I love them. Well, listen, we'll give some
- 1:04:01some people more time here but I just want to say thank you is.
- 1:04:04And is there anything else you want to talk about anything?
- 1:04:06We didn't. Over that you wanted to get out
- 1:04:07there. Yeah.
- 1:04:09There's a couple of mentions one is so I know I'm not the most
- 1:04:13credible guy who has one of these, but I do have a
- 1:04:16professional wrestling school that just started its at
- 1:04:20Instinct martial arts and it's with some guys who are real
- 1:04:23hungry now. I know I don't have the resume
- 1:04:26that a lot of teachers do, but here's what I do, have, I have
- 1:04:2910 years in the business. I know how to work a crowd.
- 1:04:32I know how to work on a match real well, and more than
- 1:04:34anything. Something I have that the Other
- 1:04:36pro wrestlers don't have is a lot of time in the classroom.
- 1:04:41So my, my my students are getting a real good education
- 1:04:46from mr. Sam Alec King, we got the wizard
- 1:04:50in there. We got all these silly gimmicks
- 1:04:52and they are working their ass off.
- 1:04:54So if you're interested in learning a little wrestling, you
- 1:04:58know, come on over to Instinct Fitness and check us out.
- 1:05:01We're having some good times over there, maybe I'll come, we
- 1:05:04will have to come down and do a little filming one day.
- 1:05:06All. That's what I'm talking about.
- 1:05:09Yeah, listen man, I want to thank you so much for your time.
- 1:05:12I apologize for the way things went down.
- 1:05:15A lot of things going on. Hopefully, hopefully for the,
- 1:05:17hopefully, for the good but just I guess the biggest thing is, I
- 1:05:21know, I wasn't expecting to this Shore star talk, but we did it.
- 1:05:24We did it. But I just want that locker room
- 1:05:26to know. I love them all so much and I
- 1:05:28want nothing but success for them all.
- 1:05:29And I hope they keep killing it and just because I'm not there
- 1:05:32doesn't mean I don't want that place to be successful and I
- 1:05:35don't want that. I mean, listen, dude.
- 1:05:36Like that, that Jersey Shore's, dope.
- 1:05:38Like it's a fun place to go. I was actually looking forward
- 1:05:40to the summer time when that place was popping and doing that
- 1:05:43in front of like big big big crowds or on the boardwalk, you
- 1:05:46know, I mean it's like it's being in my backyard.
- 1:05:49Yeah. The your community sounds
- 1:05:51amazing. I love how passionate you are
- 1:05:52about your local community. I'm the same way.
- 1:05:54I mean my iced tea sticker says enough, like I love where I'm
- 1:05:57from and I like that about you too that you're passionate about
- 1:05:59your hometown and but yeah man, it's I appreciate your time and
- 1:06:04sorry that we did have to postpone this.
- 1:06:06The one that was looking forward to it.
- 1:06:08I apologize. I don't take a lot of pride in
- 1:06:10canceling interviews. It was, but I was in a rough
- 1:06:13spot at that point in history, right.
- 1:06:14I was the first one you canceled.
- 1:06:17Yeah. I think so.
- 1:06:18Like on the day like that. Yeah.
- 1:06:20Where I felt like I had to cancel one but we're back.
- 1:06:22We made it work and I'm giving you is for interviews, if you,
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- 1:06:59I want to give a shout-out to 5 are special people.
- 1:07:03I'm talking about Jaden, the crusher Casey.
- 1:07:06Hammer Ash, you Maze. And of course, the princess
- 1:07:10warrior Sora rain along with my queen upstairs, I'll be upstairs
- 1:07:15soon. Let's watching Power Rangers.
- 1:07:17I love the new one, the new Power Ranger movie.
- 1:07:19That's so we got to watch it. I may, I may have been given a
- 1:07:22Netflix account so I can watch it.
- 1:07:24So I'm going to check it out as well.
- 1:07:25All right, we'll trade knows. My I have a job.
- 1:07:28I don't even ever seen. My jacket I wear at the show is
- 1:07:30but the back. I have all the Power Ranger
- 1:07:32medallions, across the back and then on your jacket, right?
- 1:07:36Yeah there's a lot. Yeah I like the Power Rangers
- 1:07:39are represented on the jacket. Nice like I need more time with
- 1:07:42that jacket next time. Yeah well so we'll see you guys
- 1:07:45next time. Thank you.
- 1:07:46We'll be back tomorrow with the 50th episode of the a BJ
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- 1:07:51is this your first time here? 50 episodes man, you've been at
- 1:07:53this a while since October I've been doing two episodes a week
- 1:07:57for four since October. So we're finally hitting episode
- 1:07:5950, which is absolutely insane that YouTube channel.
- 1:08:02If you head over the Anthony block Wood jr.
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