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American Jihad: They’re Lying About the Iran War | The Mark Driscoll Show | Ep 21 · The Mark Driscoll Show

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  Well, howdy, and welcome to the Mark Driscoll show, guys.
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  Today is going to be awesome. I mean awesome in some senses.
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  We're going to talk about how the war in Iran is coming to our
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  homeland and how we can protect and defend against it.
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  Is this America first or have we got off track?
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  We talk about the Texas primary that was a massive upset this
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  week. And we will end with an
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  incredible segment on Shia LaBeouf that you do not want to
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  miss the ending, It is incredible.
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  So buckle up, get ready, It's the Mark Driscoll Show.
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  Fox News has learned of a disturbing development involving
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  the type of explosive used in the attempted attack and just
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  how dangerous it is. Or this is a bit of a game
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  changer. First of all, let me start by
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  saying New York City got extremely lucky yesterday.
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  TATP is enormously volatile. It is not very stable.
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  It's extremely powerful and it is the footprint and if you go
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  by past events of serious bombing attacks, the London 77
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  attacks, Richard Reid's attempt on a plane, many of us remember
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  the Ariana Grande attacks outside the Manchester Arena.
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  These are situations where you're well into double figures
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  of people killed, nevermind injured.
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  So this was a very, very serious attempt, much more serious, I
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  would argue than it likely seemed to many right initially.
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  And as to why they didn't detonate in light of the fact
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  that they were charged the way they were is going to be
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  something I'm sure that the federal authority is going to be
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  looking at very closely as they investigate these two perps.
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  All right, Pastor Mark, it has been a wild week.
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  So we we bombed Iran and we just keep hitting them hard.
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  Yes. And then we are seeing this
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  uprising in Islamic extremism here in the States.
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  Let me just quickly read you a list of what's happened in last
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  week from Muslims. Muslims shoot up a bar in
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  Austin, TX. 2 dead 14 shot. Muslim lights Molotov cocktail
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  and throws it at Christians in New York.
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  Muslims throw a nail bomb shrapnel IED at Christians in
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  New York. Muslims try to bomb southwest
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  flight to Nashville or from Nashville to Fort Lauderdale.
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  Muslims throw an IED shouting Al Akbar at anti Islam protest near
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  the mansion. Muslim makes bomb threat on
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  plane, forces emergency landing in Atlanta.
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  Muslim background guy drops bomb threat at Kansas City airport.
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  Explosions hit near U.S. embassy in Oslo while tensions
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  skyrocket. And the Muslims are like, why
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  did the people in America not like us?
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  And it's like, well, you seem to be not a religion of peace, but
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  maybe a religion of war. And we're seeing more and more
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  of this and just a lot of extremism.
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  Yeah. And so you go over to Iran,
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  you're trying to chop the head off the snake of global terror.
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  And so just to hit Iran, you know, Iran has been funding
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  their proxies, Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas, of course,
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  invaded Israel on October 7th. And so literally the number one
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  state sponsor of terror is Iran. And so, you know, if you want to
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  choke out the supply line of terror, you got to go get Iran.
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  So we're bombing Iran, and then you're going to see an
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  escalation nationally, domestically, as people who are
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  sympathetic towards Iran and toward Islam.
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  And then you've got to ask yourself, why is it that Tucker
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  Carlson and Candace Owens are against Israel?
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  They're not against Islam. Why is it that we are being told
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  that Christian nationalism is a great danger but Islamic
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  nationalism is not? It is wild that we are currently
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  bombing political leaders that are Islamic in one country and
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  voting for them in our own. It's wild, like we were just
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  driving through Dearborn, MI couple days ago and it is
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  mosques and it's. A different country?
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  Called the prayer and you know, Arabic and Farsi and Ramadan.
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  And if you would have blindfolded me and then dropped
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  me off, I would have said, oh heck, I just landed in
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  Mogadishu. I mean, it's wild.
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  And so and what what is really interesting with this one as
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  well, you've got Mandami who immediately turns the narrative
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  to this is he used the language and they could bigotry and
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  racism. So immediately it is white
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  nationalists who are violent extremists and dangerous, and he
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  is a victim. Yeah, we actually, I think we
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  have that clip. So let's play that just so the
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  audience can hear him say that for himself.
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  Because it's it's pretty. And it's a lie.
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  It's not true. It's an absolute lie.
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  He's protecting his people. Plus we're home.
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  At the time, this was a vile protest rooted in white
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  supremacy entitled Stop the Islamic Takeover of New York
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  City. I'm the first Muslim mayor of
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  our city. Anti Muslim bigotry is nothing
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  new to me, nor is it anything new for the 1 million or so
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  Muslim New Yorkers who know this city as our home.
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  While I found this protest appalling, I will not waver in
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  my belief that it should be allowed to happen.
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  Ours is a free society where the right to peaceful protest is
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  sacred. It does not belong only to those
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  we agree with, it belongs to everyone.
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  So bigotry and racism. So what happens is you've got
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  Jake Lang, he's a far right agitator, activist, yields a
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  protest, a we don't need Islam in New York, which I totally
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  agree with. So not saying I would have been
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  at that particular event, but I agree with the sentiment.
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  So then somebody shows up with a bomb immediately Mandami says,
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  see, the white nationalists showed up here and they were
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  going to bomb my house. Come to find.
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  Tell me if these sound like 2 white nationalists, Amir Balat
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  and Ibrahim Kuami. Definitely not white.
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  Yeah, it's not like my name is Joe and this is my buddy Ted It.
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  Wasn't those guys? These are not the guys drinking,
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  you know, Bud Light and thinking that wrestling is real.
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  Yeah, that's not the crowd here. And they were angered by the
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  anti Islam protest. They're being investigated for
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  domestic terrorism and they were inspired by ICE.
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  So they showed up with an IED to blow up anti Islamists.
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  So what this was again, this was Islam being a religion of
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  violence, showing up to murder people at a peaceful protest.
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  Now in America you have you have right to freedom of speech and
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  assembly and protest. So what is happening is legal.
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  The Muslim guys show up to do terrorism and the mayor lies and
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  he doesn't come out afterward and say, actually, I decry
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  violence by Muslim terrorists inspired by ISIS and, and, and
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  next time there is a protest and you don't agree with it, please
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  don't shout Allah Akbar and blow people up.
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  He doesn't say that. Yep, I mean it would be very
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  counter as a narrative, especially since he's a Muslim.
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  He's a very Muslim. Like I'm a pregnant Asian chick.
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  I know, yeah, I think he's very deceptive.
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  He's he's trying to turn the narrative.
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  He's trying to show a different version.
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  And our good friends, etcetera say that's how it always comes
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  in and then it turns violent. Yes.
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  And we're seeing that because, oh, we're cutting the head off
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  the snake and we're just seeing these domestic terrorism events.
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  We saw this weekend a Southwest flight 2094 from Nashville to
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  Fort Lauderdale. A passenger was shouting death
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  to America, death to Trump while on a pilot or while on a plane
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  full of Americans. And after 911, that's some scary
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  stuff. It's very scary.
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  I mean, if you were on that flight, you'd be terrified.
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  And I would be beating a guy. Yes, yes, you would, yes.
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  You have to. For sure.
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  Yeah, absolutely. It's not a religion of peace.
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  Christians don't do this when we're pissed off, they get on
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  Acts and say gross things. But yeah, we're very rarely does
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  a Christian go and attack people and use a bomb.
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  How many terrorist activities? How many presidential
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  assassination attempts? The murder of Charlie Kirk?
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  Shootings at Christians schools take over like happened in
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  Minneapolis of services, like how often is this happening from
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  the right? Like we're not taking over the
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  mosque. We're not shooting up the
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  Islamic schools. We're not shooting the
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  Democratic candidates. I mean, this is this is
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  political violence from the left to the right almost exclusively.
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  And then the narrative is that the right is violent and
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  dangerous and it just, it doesn't, it doesn't fit reality.
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  And this is what? Nobody would even shoot Biden.
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  I mean, you'd feel bad. You could take him down with a
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  nerf gun, yeah. For sure.
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  A nerf gun would do it. But part of this as well is some
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  people will wonder like should we be going after terrorists if
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  it in other countries, if it potentially inflames terrorism
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  in our own country. And the truth is when you're
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  dealing with terrorists, you're not dealing with reasonable
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  people. You're dealing with religious
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  ideology that is extremist and demonic.
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  And This is why, for example, like in the days of Joshua, God
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  says, hey, when you go to take the promised land.
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  Kill them all. Because their kids are infected
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  with the same demon. And so you can get rid of one,
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  but then the next generation is just going to pick up where that
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  one left off. And we're seeing that like we're
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  now, I think 3 tears deep into killing political and military
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  leaders, which are also religious leaders in Iran.
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  And, and the issue is with certain people, you, if you
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  allow them to live, all they're going to do is evil.
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  And furthermore, their kids. They've got the same demon and
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  they have the same agenda. Well, for any of the people that
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  are like, we, I mean, doing this in Iran is causing all this
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  violence in America. It's like, well, doing this in
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  Iran, we found out somebody's hiding in your closet at your
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  house and it's going to attack your family.
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  I'm glad. I mean, I'm not glad this
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  stuff's happening, but I'm glad it's coming to the surface
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  because it'll breed and it will fill America.
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  And I would rather know there's a terrorist in this nation
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  sooner than later. And they seem to be failing at
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  every turn. They're not very well organized
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  terrorists, but one of them might be.
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  And we might see a, a plane blow up.
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  We might see, I mean. There is a threat of terror on
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  the homeland and sleeper cells. I mean, since we had an open
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  border, it's like we don't know who's here and we don't know
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  what they're working on. What should the average husband
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  father do? Because there, I mean, there
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  seems like there's just going to be a heightened risk for a
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  little while. I think, you know, just as a
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  husband and a father, the Bible talks early on that God gives a
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  man dominion and your your home, that's your dominion.
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  So you've got to secure it. You've got to ask yourself,
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  like, do I have good security cameras?
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  Do I have, you know, a word that when I say that to my wife and
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  kids, we run the drill, You know, do I have firearms?
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  Do I have a plan? Am I thinking through how to
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  secure my property? I mean, it's, you may not be
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  able to keep the border of America, but you need to do your
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  best to safeguard the border of your residence for your family.
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  And each man is responsible for his fear of dominion.
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  And, and this is so that you know your family can be safe,
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  but it also means, you know, what we're seeing as well is
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  Christians may not understand this, but the, the core tenets
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  of Islam are ones that encourage this behavior.
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  So anybody who's not a believer, seeing Christianity, if you're
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  not a believer, we say you're lost and, and Jesus wants you
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  found, they call you an infidel. That's different.
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  An infidel is literally an enemy.
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  We don't see lost people as enemy.
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  We see lost people as taking captive by the enemy.
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  And we want to set captives free.
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  So they're not our enemy. They're they're our, they're a
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  mission field. In addition, the only way you're
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  guaranteed to go to heaven, their version of heaven and
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  Islam is that you die as a martyr.
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  If you just die, Allah gets to flip the coin and decide.
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  But if you die a martyr, especially as a male, you go
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  directly into paradise and you get 72 virgins.
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  This is not in the Quran, it's in other literature, and those
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  gals are around the age of 33. It says that they're so
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  beautiful that they can't. These are women that can't be
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  unveiled on the earth in this lifetime because they're too
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  beautiful that they literally sing your praises for all of
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  eternity. And they're all virgins.
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  And when you sleep with them, they immediately then return to
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  virgin status. And so their view of eternity is
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  like, if you're a terrorist, you're like, well, if I go do
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  jihad, holy war, I get to live in a brothel with eternal
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  virgins who never age and are around 33 and, you know,
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  beautiful. And they return to virginity
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  every night. And I get to live in a brothel
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  forever and ever and ever. When you sell that to a guy,
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  you're going to get some really evil, self-destructive behavior.
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  Yeah, it will. And on earth it's a very lust
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  driven religion. I mean, we were on with the
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  Sedros a few weeks ago and they were explaining that basically I
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  don't know how there is any Muslim women.
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  It feels like an oxy. Well, it's an oppression.
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  It's an oppression and they just keep hiding the women more and
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  more. That's first the veil, then the
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  covering the eyes and then the women aren't even allowed to
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  speak because it's causing guys to stumble.
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  So it's just guys that can be as lustful as they want and just
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  cover up all the women and we won't have to look at them or
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  stumble. They're just allowing the guys
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  to become. Animals.
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  Animals. It really is an animalistic
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  culture. And then yeah, they're going to
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  rape white women because the women aren't covering up like
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  the Muslim women. But I I just don't understand
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  why any Muslim women are staying Muslim women.
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  In an oppressive environment. So let's say you grew up in a
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  strictly religious home and you're married off.
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  Let's say you have a domineering, overbearing father
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  and then you're married off at a very young age and Islamic man
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  can take up to four wives. Well, now you.
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  Let's say the founder and then you.
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  Can rewrite rules yeah, then you could have upwards of 11 so then
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  you don't have the same legal rights maybe you don't have a
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  driver's license, you don't have voting rights you don't have
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  access to the family checking account.
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  You literally have no way to leave and.
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  And I think it's capital punishment if if you convert
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  out. Well, yeah, and if you just
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  leave your husband, like, where do you go?
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  Your family isn't going to take you back because now you've
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  shamed the family and you know, in in Islamic teaching, the
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  first time your wife disagrees with you, you can yell at her.
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  The second time she sleeps on the couch.
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  Third time you can beat her. And if you know that's coming as
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  a woman and you got a domineering, overbearing
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  husband, and maybe he's got two or three otherwise, and there's
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  nowhere for you to go and you don't have any legal rights or
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  money, you know what you're going to do.
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  It's like being a prisoner of war.
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  It's being in a hostage situation and your abuser that
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  torments you as your husband. And that's not marriage.
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  That's abuse, you know, And so guys like Mondami who will come
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  on and say, you know, we're a religion of peace and we're
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  about diversity and, you know, we love everybody.
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  It's like, that's not what Islam teaches.
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  And furthermore, his wife got in trouble this week because she's
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  liking posts regarding Hamas's invasion of Israel October 7th
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  where women are getting raped, and she's liking those posts.
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  It's like, what this is is this is just absolute deception.
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  And some people are gullible enough to look at the words and
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  not look at the deeds. And it's not what you say, it's
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  what you do. Yeah, yeah.
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  And any of the feminists for it is one of the most oppressive
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  religion. I mean, think about that.
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  Like, you can have four wives and you can beat them and the
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  the husband's dream is one day I'm going to die and go to
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  heaven and have 72 virgins. So like, my hope is to be
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  married in heaven, and I think you and I agree on that.
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  Our wives both don't agree with us that we'll be married in
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  heaven. They're just theologically
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  wrong. But.
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  Yeah, I whether. I'm not hoping I end up with 72
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  other women. If my wife knew that, then oh,
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  my gosh. I just hope that I die and meet
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  72 beautiful women. What a perv.
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  Yeah. Like, so yeah, I don't know.
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  Feminists for Muslims is, like you said, like.
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  Vegans for, you know. Carnivores, yeah.
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  Yeah, but but in this too, it's like every time he gets on, he's
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  only been in the job a short while.
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  He's got already got an economic crisis.
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  They've taken away in New York schools for the gifted, the
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  students because he says it is against equity.
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  It's like, OK, so we don't want more smart people.
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  I mean, but what we're seeing here is just the logical outcome
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  of Islam married to progressivism and it is anti
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  American Sharia laws and it's anti constitutionalism and then
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  certain people show up with bombs and they're going to just
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  kill people. But if you say that, you're a
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  bigot. If you don't say that, you're
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  overtaken and your nation is stolen.
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  Just like happened in North Africa, just happened in Turkey,
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  just like happened in Egypt. Islam eventually comes in and it
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  conquers and conquests and there's nobody and nothing left.
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  And Christianity is gone. And so is liberty.
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  So what you're seeing in Iran right now, you're seeing people
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  rising up. They wish they had the Second
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  Amendment. This thing would be over.
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  But they want regime change. They're tired of living under
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  this. You're seeing mosques close
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  Iran, and a very young, vibrant Christian Church, and they see
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  Christianity as liberation from oppression.
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  And it's being led by women who are like, we want Jesus, not
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  jihad. Yep.
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  And in America, the brainwashing of the government education has
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  people thinking that this is the most oppressive place to be.
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  Oh, it's yeah, it's awful. And I think I'd love to play a
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  clip of one of the most oppressive men I know, our
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  secretary of War. That's a joke I like.
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  You know, he just said this yesterday and I think it's a
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  helpful talking point. Is it possible to achieve the
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  objectives President Trump has set before you if we don't
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  locate and obtain and extract the highly enriched uranium?
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  There's a lot of different ways we can get after that.
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  They've used a conventional umbrella of of missiles that was
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  growing every single day, their production capacity to try to
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  cover over their nuclear blackmail ambitions.
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  As far as how you get at that nuclear option, we'll make sure
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  that their nuclear ambitions are never achieved.
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  Will we take it out ourselves? Well, I would never tell you or
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  anybody else what our options are.
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  See, that's another thing people keep asking.
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  That's. Another question, very fair
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  question. People ask boots on the ground.
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  No boots on the ground. Four weeks, 2 weeks, six weeks.
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  Go in, go in. President Trump knows.
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  I know. You don't tell the enemy, you
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  don't tell the press, you don't tell anybody what what your
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  limits would be on an operation. We're willing to go as far as we
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  need to in order to be successful.
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  Do we have any overt or covert forces inside Iran now?
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  I wouldn't tell you that if we did.
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  The only reason I ask is earlier this week you said no.
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  Is that still the answer? Yeah, that's still the answer.
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  But we reserve the right. We would be completely unwise if
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  we did not reserve the right to take any particular option,
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  whether it included boots on the ground or no boots on the
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  ground. Journalists are stupid.
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  Yeah, they're like, well, we're not going to tell the media or
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  enemies. Well, I think you're being
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  repetitive. The media may be your enemy, but
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  it is very interesting people are.
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  I don't like President Trump's approach, but like you said, it
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  feels like America's the most depressive place to be.
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  Trump is liberating. It feels like he's trying to
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  liberate people for good. Not for five years, yes.
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  And that seems like it's the mistake of many of the
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  presidents before him. Yeah, they kicked the can down
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  the road. It's like, let's, you know,
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  let's try and do sanctions. Let's try and get him to play
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  nice. Let's make it economically
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  unfeasible. And if they do agree or abide,
• 20:55
  well, then we reopen oil reserves and we send cash.
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  And that's what's happened in the past.
• 21:01
  You know, we open the oil reserves, we send cash, and then
• 21:03
  October 7th hits because now we're funding terrorism.
• 21:07
  And so, you know, there are certain people that are just
• 21:10
  demonic and evil and they believe it is.
• 21:13
  They're in the same way that a Christian would say, you know, I
• 21:17
  get up every day and you know, the thing I'm committed to most
• 21:21
  is loyalty to Jesus and introducing people to him.
• 21:25
  A Christian would say, I will die for that.
• 21:28
  That is my greater good, 'cause theirs is death to Israel, death
• 21:32
  to America. That's it.
• 21:34
  So you would say Islam is not compatible with the?
• 21:36
  West, it is completely incompatible with constitutional
• 21:38
  Christianity because constitutionalism says, hey,
• 21:42
  we're governed by some founding documents.
• 21:44
  Islam says you're governed by Sharia law and Quran and that
• 21:48
  means they cannot coexist. And so any word is gone.
• 21:52
  It has to topple the government and has to remove whatever the
• 21:55
  documents are so that Sharia law and Islam, because this is their
• 21:58
  vision. The the the jihadis vision is
• 22:01
  that the whole globe would be ruled by Islam and under Sharia
• 22:06
  law, and then a global leader would rise up and he would rule
• 22:10
  the world in the name of Allah. And So what we would call the
• 22:13
  Antichrist, they would call their hope.
• 22:16
  Their hope is a globalist agenda ruled by Islam, where one leader
• 22:21
  rises up and rules the world for Allah.
• 22:24
  So you would believe that Trump's actions and Pete's are
• 22:29
  America first because these people are yelling death to
• 22:32
  America, and that's a threat. If I said death to the Driscoll
• 22:36
  family every day, Every day. Made it part of the school
• 22:39
  curriculum. So like there's some people at
• 22:42
  our church that escaped Iran when they were little.
• 22:45
  And so like the school that they went to the the doormat, it had,
• 22:52
  I think America and Israel. And you had to wipe your feet on
• 22:54
  it every day as a kid to go into school.
• 22:56
  And you would shout and chant as part of the curriculum in school
• 22:59
  like we would do when I was young.
• 23:01
  I don't think we do it anymore because we've lost our
• 23:03
  patriotism. But you would do the Pledge of
• 23:05
  Allegiance, their Pledge of Allegiance, death to Israel,
• 23:09
  death to America. And so kids from the youngest
• 23:13
  age are brainwashed that that we are the great Satan.
• 23:18
  They see this as an entirely spiritual warfare matter.
• 23:23
  And so with people like that, you're like, well, how do you
• 23:25
  negotiate? You can't.
• 23:26
  How do you compromise? You can't what you can do, you
• 23:30
  can wait, but the longer you wait, you're just allowing them
• 23:33
  to prepare to do the inevitable. Yep.
• 23:36
  And so, yeah, if. And it is weird that yeah, the,
• 23:41
  the, the responsibility of the leader of America is to take
• 23:45
  care of Americans. The leader of Canada should be
• 23:48
  to take care of Canadians. The leader of, you know,
• 23:52
  whatever other country you want to get should be to take care of
• 23:55
  their people. I mean, your first
• 23:58
  responsibility is to take care of your family.
• 24:01
  So you're saying that if there's people shouting death to America
• 24:04
  and we're Americans and we're the and you're the president,
• 24:07
  you should probably deal with the big country that is building
• 24:10
  nukes that are saying death to America.
• 24:12
  The whole goal is nuclear aspiration.
• 24:14
  And, and they would tell you because like you could look at
• 24:16
  the Hamas charter, for example, the Hamas charter literally
• 24:20
  expressly says we exist to obliterate the nation of Israel
• 24:24
  from the face of the earth. If that is the express intent of
• 24:28
  the government of Gaza, which is a proxy of Iran, you should take
• 24:33
  that seriously. And what they're, what they're
• 24:35
  wanting to do. See, they can't win an arms race
• 24:39
  or a war or, or, or or strikes against Israel unless they get a
• 24:44
  nuke. And then you've got one bomb to
• 24:47
  eliminate a whole nation. And so that's their goal.
• 24:49
  I mean, we're, we're seeing it right now, like their navy's
• 24:52
  gone, their Air Force is gone, their military's decimated.
• 24:55
  They can't win a war. But if you have a nuke, you win.
• 25:00
  All you got to do is just drop one bomb and you eliminate the
• 25:02
  nation of Israel. And if you get 2, you find a way
• 25:05
  to send it to the US. And anybody who doesn't take
• 25:08
  that seriously isn't paying attention.
• 25:10
  Anybody who thinks I think if we're nice to them, they will
• 25:13
  sort of not. You tolerate they.
• 25:15
  Will they will dominate. That's how it always works.
• 25:17
  If you tolerate, they will dominate.
• 25:18
  And so, yeah, this is, unfortunately, American troops
• 25:23
  will die. Unfortunately, there will be
• 25:24
  some terrorist acts on the homeland.
• 25:27
  All of that is tragic and unfortunate.
• 25:31
  But the question is, would waiting have caused it to be any
• 25:35
  different? I mean, we've been 47 years of
• 25:37
  conflict with Iraq, and they've been taking American lives.
• 25:41
  It's not like not bombing them led to peace and flourishing.
• 25:46
  I mean, the reason we have ICE and TSA and all these things is
• 25:50
  because of Islam and coming to America and having started.
• 25:54
  With 911 exactly, it started with the Twin towers and an
• 25:57
  Islamic terrorist attack. That's that's where all of this,
• 26:00
  that's where we got ICE, that's where we got the Department of
• 26:03
  Homeland Security, that's where we got increase in Border
• 26:06
  Patrol. That's where all of this came
• 26:07
  from. Yeah, it's interesting.
• 26:09
  Everybody is freaking out. OK, we're going to do boots on
• 26:12
  the ground. The press secretary didn't rule
• 26:14
  out the draft. All these things, everyone.
• 26:18
  'S like. I know because I know leadership
• 26:21
  and what Trump has pulled all these people in a room to say
• 26:23
  is, hey, no matter what you do, where you say it, how you say
• 26:26
  it, you cannot say that. Any options off the table.
• 26:28
  So if somebody asks you if a drafts on the table, it's on the
• 26:31
  table, it's boots on the ground on the table, it's on the table.
• 26:34
  Is a nuke on the table? It's on the table.
• 26:36
  Like he's just told his team what to say and they are all
• 26:38
  parroting it and everyone's freaking out.
• 26:40
  Oh my gosh, We're going to have a draft question mark.
• 26:43
  Are we going to have a draft? We're.
• 26:44
  Not going to have a draft and Lord willing, we will not have
• 26:47
  boots on the ground. But you can't say that in the
• 26:49
  same way Christians, some of the liberal, progressive Christians
• 26:52
  at the beginning of, you know, the, the rounding up of illegal
• 26:55
  aliens, undocumented residents, they were like, Oh my gosh,
• 27:00
  they've not ruled out entering into churches.
• 27:02
  Well, do you know why? Because if you say we won't go
• 27:04
  into churches, they're all going to go to the churches.
• 27:07
  So you don't, it's it's like in football, you don't before the
• 27:11
  kickoff, hand your playbook over to the opposing team.
• 27:15
  Yep. You just you play the game and
• 27:18
  you let them guess. Trump literally wrote the book
• 27:21
  The Art of the Deal. Yeah, he is an expert
• 27:23
  negotiator, and he has pretty much every world leader in
• 27:26
  submission to him except this country that is choosing to not.
• 27:30
  And he will put them in submission.
• 27:33
  Yeah, I'd be shocked if we had boots on the ground.
• 27:34
  I think it only complicates things and only slows it down if
• 27:37
  we put Americans there. No, America first means, you
• 27:41
  know, eliminate the terror threat.
• 27:43
  What we do not want is what the neocons used to do and that is
• 27:47
  to try and do nation building. You do, you know, it didn't work
• 27:51
  in Afghanistan, It didn't work in Iraq.
• 27:52
  Like let's not get started on another, you know, circus.
• 27:58
  But two, what you're seeing with Iran is Iran is not even loyal
• 28:01
  to Islam. No.
• 28:04
  They're bombing all of their Muslim neighbors.
• 28:08
  And so at this point, Iran is not just representing Islam.
• 28:12
  They are. They're actually becoming an
• 28:16
  enemy of even Islam. And and Islam and the centers
• 28:22
  would say is a very low IQ religion.
• 28:24
  I didn't say it, but they are very low IQ.
• 28:27
  It's not smart. And the the country's not smart.
• 28:29
  The religious situation there is not smart.
• 28:32
  I heard something about the son being elected and AS.
• 28:34
  He's already been wounded. Prepare to meet.
• 28:38
  Prepare to meet your dad, son. Yeah.
• 28:40
  I mean, yeah, I'd be like. Yeah.
• 28:47
  Everybody who gets this job gets blown up.
• 28:50
  And we don't have a Navy or an Air Force.
• 28:52
  Yeah, yeah. Not signing up for that.
• 28:56
  Job. No, I don't want that job.
• 28:57
  It's like, you know what, at some point, you know, like, hey,
• 28:59
  Dad, I'm a differentiate. I'm going into vacuum cleaner
• 29:02
  sales. I'm pivoting.
• 29:03
  Yeah. What's this I'm going to do?
• 29:05
  Hey, guys, we still have our middle finger left.
• 29:06
  Let's just throw that at Trump. Yeah, I don't know.
• 29:09
  It feels like a losing battle. But yeah, I think what is the
• 29:13
  advice for the young Christian man?
• 29:16
  We're going to get into deconstructionism on the right,
• 29:18
  but this, I, I feel like the framing of this being America
• 29:22
  First is so important. Listening to Pete Eggseth talk
• 29:26
  about it, I realized how America first, this actually is when,
• 29:30
  when somebody's shouting death to America, we cannot allow that
• 29:34
  as much as I wouldn't allow that for my house.
• 29:35
  If my neighbor was shouting that I I would handle it.
• 29:38
  Yeah, well, and, and what Trump is saying is this has been 47
• 29:43
  years and he doesn't know who comes next.
• 29:46
  So let's get it over with. And it's actually it's very
• 29:49
  unpopular for him to do this on the right and the left.
• 29:51
  Nobody's like cheering him on. Well, but what's really
• 29:54
  interesting too globally, other than China and Iran and and, and
• 29:59
  Russia with Iran, nobody is saying we're going to miss that
• 30:04
  guy and that nation had real potential.
• 30:08
  Yep, everybody's. I mean, even the people in
• 30:12
  Europe that don't like us and the Brits and those who used to
• 30:14
  be friends and now they're acting like the ex-wife.
• 30:17
  Yeah, it's funny. There's no one saying I stand
• 30:18
  with Iran. Yeah, and be an easy slogan.
• 30:21
  Yeah, yeah. And it's like everybody's like,
• 30:24
  well, we're glad he's gone and the world's a better place and
• 30:27
  the nation has hope. So I mean, there's nobody,
• 30:30
  there's nobody against it. I think if you do go boots on
• 30:33
  the ground, I think that's where the sentiment turns.
• 30:35
  And it's like we got plenty to deal with in country.
• 30:38
  I think it's far simpler to deal with without boots on the
• 30:40
  ground. Yeah, it's getting to an
• 30:41
  election where the people get to vote for a leader.
• 30:44
  That's the end zone. No more this royal dictatorship
• 30:50
  where just because you know you have a genetic contribution from
• 30:55
  you know, some guy who's eternal kindling, that doesn't qualify
• 30:59
  you for the job. No.
• 31:01
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  help you learn God's Word. So getting into that topic of
• 31:58
  deconstructionism on the right, over the weekend we saw Candace
• 32:01
  Owen tweeted that men should not join the military and if there's
• 32:05
  any way for them to get out, they should get out of the
• 32:07
  military. Yeah, all men should definitely
• 32:09
  follow the advice of Candace Owens.
• 32:11
  If you're a man following the advice of Candace Owens.
• 32:13
  You're a nice lady. You're.
• 32:16
  Not even a nice lady. Yeah, so and then Nick Fuentes
• 32:21
  is telling young men to vote Democrat, and Tucker Carlson is
• 32:25
  deconstructing support for Israel on the right.
• 32:27
  So we're seeing this really gross move on the right.
• 32:31
  Where is this dividing? Self destructing.
• 32:33
  Self destructing. Why are we seeing this?
• 32:38
  Is it helpful? Should young men be listening to
• 32:41
  these voices? Well, it'll tap into their anger
• 32:44
  and their frustration and it may even help diagnose some of the
• 32:46
  problem, but it doesn't provide any solution.
• 32:48
  So in college, long time ago, I studied rhetoric debate and got
• 32:55
  into quite a bit of what would be called deconstructionism.
• 32:57
  It was kind of the undermining of postmodern philosophy.
• 33:00
  So Daredof, Foucault, Leitard, Rorty read a lot of the original
• 33:05
  sources and and that was primarily on the left.
• 33:10
  And so deconstructionism has now moved to the right.
• 33:15
  And deconstructionism is very simple.
• 33:17
  I say it in the book Christian Theology versus Critical theory,
• 33:21
  there's two basic ideologies. There is traditional theory,
• 33:25
  which is how to build something, and then there's
• 33:28
  deconstructionism, which is how to tear it down.
• 33:31
  And and this is everything. OK, So So what you're seeing on
• 33:35
  the right now that we're winning, the deconstructionists
• 33:38
  have shown up. Candace is trying to deconstruct
• 33:42
  TPUSA. Tucker is trying to deconstruct
• 33:45
  the neocons. And I think a lot of what is
• 33:48
  driving him is he doesn't like the neocons and he thinks that
• 33:52
  they have been beholden to Israel and to Jewish support
• 33:55
  dollars. So I think his deconstruction is
• 33:57
  with the neocons. And then Nick Fuentes is just
• 34:01
  angry at Mega because young men came out and voted and their
• 34:05
  lives have not gotten better and easier, and so he wants to
• 34:07
  deconstruct Mega. And so all of that is just
• 34:11
  deconstruction. Building something is really
• 34:15
  hard, like building anything is really hard.
• 34:17
  Charlie built something awesome and it was a lot of work.
• 34:20
  And it's really hard to build something.
• 34:22
  It's really easy to tear something down.
• 34:23
  So easy. This is why like my dad worked
• 34:26
  in construction and to find a demo crew, what you pay them an
• 34:30
  hour is very different than what you pay it's. 1/10.
• 34:33
  A finishing crew. To pay $100.00 an hour for a
• 34:36
  finisher and a $10.00 an hour for a.
• 34:38
  Demo And if you can get a gorilla, you get a gorilla
• 34:41
  because it's a good gorilla job. Comparing Nick Fuentes to a
• 34:44
  gorilla as an insult to the gorilla.
• 34:46
  Yes, it is. I apologize to the gorilla, but
• 34:51
  what happens is the deconstruction is it taps into
• 34:53
  the angst and the anger and the frustration and it's like, we'll
• 34:58
  just tear it all down. It's like, well, but what are
• 35:00
  you going to build? What?
• 35:02
  What are you going to build? Well, you'll get a lot of views
• 35:04
  and likes when you deconstruct the right.
• 35:06
  But it is, I think we are so privileged as Americans and
• 35:12
  we're privileged to have a Trump president like Trump, especially
• 35:15
  as Christian, somebody who is praying in the White House,
• 35:17
  inviting pastors. I'm going tomorrow to pray with
• 35:21
  the president and work with the faith council and super excited
• 35:24
  about that. We have a president that's doing
• 35:26
  that and prioritizing that in the midst of war.
• 35:29
  And what would what would today look like if Kamala was our
• 35:33
  president? The borders would be continually
• 35:37
  wide open, which means that all the social services in all the
• 35:41
  major cities would be further in debt.
• 35:44
  We'd be funding all the LGBTQ in Norway for.
• 35:47
  Goods we'd be having massive fraudulent spending and the
• 35:51
  housing market would be worse because it's a supply demand
• 35:54
  situation. When you bring 10s of millions
• 35:57
  of people into a country, they need a place to live, well, then
• 36:01
  that sets off an escalation in housing prices because it's a
• 36:05
  supply demand situation. National debt would be even
• 36:09
  worse. And Oh yeah, and issues of
• 36:13
  religious liberty and freedom and family.
• 36:17
  I mean, we know for a fact that the previous administration was
• 36:21
  targeting pro-life clinics and churches and, and, and
• 36:25
  Christians. We know that.
• 36:27
  And so I don't need the president to be the pastor in
• 36:30
  chief. I just need them to protect the
• 36:33
  liberties that our country constitutionally is guaranteed.
• 36:37
  And then it's the church's job to be the church.
• 36:39
  It's not the, it's not the church's job to want the
• 36:42
  government to do the church's job.
• 36:45
  And so, you know, we had two options.
• 36:47
  And by the grace of God, we got by far and away the best option
• 36:51
  and. Nick Fuentes is like vote
• 36:54
  Democrat. We don't have for one term
• 36:57
  Democrat. This country could.
• 37:01
  Well, we talked about it last time too.
• 37:03
  Like there are other elections, there's, there's gubernatorial
• 37:05
  elections, there's attorney general elections, there's,
• 37:08
  there's state and local elections.
• 37:10
  So if you either don't vote or you just vote Democrat down the
• 37:12
  ticket, it's like like we're here in Arizona and Arizona is a
• 37:17
  swing state and our, our governor, attorney general, our
• 37:20
  clown show, she set the record for just vetoing.
• 37:25
  All she's good at is vetoing. We've got to get that fixed.
• 37:28
  And if the Christians don't vote or vote Democrat, then we could
• 37:32
  lose school choice for families. It makes it a far less habitable
• 37:38
  place for young people to marry, have kids, buy a home, educate.
• 37:43
  Like there's a lot of other issues at stake.
• 37:45
  But when you're just a single guy who's angry and you're not a
• 37:49
  a husband and a father with a family and a future, you're not
• 37:52
  thinking in those terms. And so, you know, do I
• 37:56
  understand sometimes the anger? Yeah.
• 37:58
  But what are you going to do? What are you going to build?
• 38:02
  Like, what? What is the alternative?
• 38:03
  Because when we saw deconstructionism on the left,
• 38:07
  let's say during the George Floyd and the BLM, it was let's
• 38:11
  let's deconstruct, you know, the police force.
• 38:15
  Yep. OK.
• 38:17
  Well, OK. So then what are you going to
• 38:19
  build? Well, we're going to build
• 38:22
  psychological advocates. Well, I tell you right now,
• 38:26
  cartel leaders are not going to stand down from psychological
• 38:29
  advocates. So even if something isn't
• 38:32
  perfect, the question is, if you deconstruct it, will you build
• 38:36
  something better? And if not, even though it's not
• 38:40
  great, it's better than what's going to happen after you
• 38:43
  deconstruct what you already have.
• 38:45
  I've met 5 million fools that thought they were going to start
• 38:48
  to renovate their home and they did the demo and then they
• 38:51
  couldn't get them back together. I've also met those same fools.
• 38:54
  That's wild. Yeah.
• 38:56
  My, my, my life verse right now is Jeremiah 29.
• 39:00
  Five. I was telling you this the other
• 39:02
  day. This is to the Exiles in
• 39:04
  Babylon, a Pagan nation with a Pagan king under heavy
• 39:08
  persecution. This is what the Lord Almighty,
• 39:11
  the God of Israel says. Build houses, settle down, plant
• 39:15
  gardens, eat what they produce. Marry and have sons and
• 39:17
  daughters. Find wives for your sons and
• 39:19
  give your daughters in marriage so that they may too have sons
• 39:22
  and daughters. Increase in your number, do not
• 39:24
  decrease. Also seek the peace and
• 39:26
  prosperity of the city which I've called you to in exile.
• 39:29
  Pray to the Lord for it, because if it prospers.
• 39:32
  You too, Prosper. That's incredible.
• 39:35
  Build something. Build something.
• 39:36
  That's a vision for young men. It takes a while.
• 39:39
  Get married, get some land, have a family, have kids and start
• 39:45
  thinking about legacy for generations, you know, and and
• 39:50
  that gets a man motivated. So you take all of that anger
• 39:53
  and angst and you could put it toward Acts or a family.
• 39:57
  X is birth control. A family is awesome.
• 40:00
  Yeah, a business, a ministry, a family.
• 40:03
  Go build something. Build something.
• 40:05
  Yeah. It feels like the answer right
• 40:06
  now. I feel like that's what.
• 40:07
  I'm not going to speak for Charlie Kirk, but that's he he
• 40:10
  inspired young men. He didn't just get him angry.
• 40:13
  He acknowledged the problem. But hey, we we can save it,
• 40:16
  guys. We can do this.
• 40:17
  And that's why I think so many young men resonated with
• 40:19
  Charlie. And I think part of the problem
• 40:22
  is so many people are putting their, like, they put Trump in
• 40:25
  the savior category. No, Trump is the president, and
• 40:28
  he's just clearing the runway for young men to build.
• 40:31
  So young men get out and build. Yeah, and, and at the end of the
• 40:36
  day, if young men don't build it, it doesn't even matter what
• 40:40
  the president does because the nation won't have a future.
• 40:43
  That's that's the thing. It doesn't matter who the
• 40:45
  president is, even if we had, you know, the greatest political
• 40:49
  situation in the history of the nation, if the young men were
• 40:52
  not activated, there is no future, No future.
• 40:55
  So it, it the, the political is just to clear the runway so
• 40:58
  young men can get their plane up.
• 41:00
  But if the young men don't want to get their plane up, there is
• 41:03
  no future. 100 percent, 100% and.
• 41:08
  But the Just As You Like the deconstructionism on the right,
• 41:12
  it's just as nasty and nefarious as the deconstructionism on the
• 41:15
  left. Well, more Christians I yeah, I
• 41:18
  think more Christians, more young Christian men are buying
• 41:22
  into it because it feels like a solution.
• 41:24
  It's not a solution. It's just a problem.
• 41:27
  And young men in the church need to solve the problem.
• 41:30
  The government is not going to ever solve all my problems.
• 41:33
  I am responsible for my life, my family, my house.
• 41:36
  And I think that's all we can do because it's going to get worse
• 41:39
  again. I mean, we know that we might,
• 41:43
  by God's grace and might have another Republican term after
• 41:46
  this. That would be awesome.
• 41:47
  It'll kick the can down the field, but the world's going to
• 41:50
  get worse. At some point it turns back
• 41:53
  around unfortunately and this is where get your momentum now.
• 41:56
  Get started now, get to work now, get building now.
• 41:59
  Well, there is an opportunity and I know it's not easy, but
• 42:03
  you know, in the future, who says it's going to be an easier
• 42:05
  and, and on the deconstructionism, just to clue
• 42:07
  people in pastorally. It starts very simply with,
• 42:10
  well, we're just going to hold people accountable.
• 42:12
  It's like, well, who the hell are you?
• 42:14
  You're a, you're a, you're a podcaster.
• 42:17
  Who's never held an actual job? Who's never held an actual job
• 42:20
  or, or never actually held a political office or never built
• 42:23
  anything. And and then it starts with
• 42:26
  what? We're just asking questions.
• 42:28
  Just asking questions. And the first question that's
• 42:31
  asked in the history of the world is Satan asking a question
• 42:34
  to Adam and Eve. And if you ask the wrong.
• 42:36
  So Satan is the first deconstructionist.
• 42:39
  So he tried to really say he tried to deconstruct heaven, he
• 42:42
  lost, he came down, he tried to deconstruct earth, and he did so
• 42:46
  by asking a question. Did God really say?
• 42:47
  So those who are like, well, we're just asking questions.
• 42:50
  It's like, well, that is spiritual warfare.
• 42:51
  And the young woman followed, and the young man was passive
• 42:55
  and went with it. Yeah.
• 42:56
  So we already saw the liberal women, the parade of them, and
• 42:59
  now we're seeing young men go with it.
• 43:01
  They're like, Oh, yeah, I mean, yeah, the right sucks.
• 43:05
  Vote Democrat. Literally, overtly.
• 43:07
  Nick Fontes came out and was like, let's vote Democrat.
• 43:10
  Hey, the one that mutilates children, that aborts babies.
• 43:14
  That's who we're voting for now because we're mad at Trump.
• 43:17
  Yeah, that's a spoiled brat. Well, and it's like, OK, and how
• 43:22
  will that improve things? It will not.
• 43:24
  It's just the middle finger to Trump.
• 43:25
  That's all he's trying to do is a middle finger to the right.
• 43:28
  But then what happens is debt goes up, taxes goes up, and then
• 43:31
  young men have got to pay all that off.
• 43:36
  I, I think, I think we are in such a privileged place in
• 43:38
  America and I don't think we ever believe that America could
• 43:41
  fall. Anything can fall.
• 43:43
  It absolutely the Roman Empire fell, Egypt fell like it we we
• 43:47
  can absolutely fall. It doesn't matter if we have a
• 43:49
  nuke. It doesn't matter if we have
• 43:50
  prosperity, if we go so far woke left killing all our kids, not
• 43:56
  reproducing and letting Islam in, we will fall.
• 43:59
  Yeah, no. If you if you go into massive
• 44:02
  debt, you do not have children that are committed or you don't
• 44:06
  have children and then you don't have people in country that are
• 44:08
  committed to the future of the country and eventually you don't
• 44:11
  have a country. I was, I mean, it was terrifying
• 44:14
  being in Dearborn. Yeah, yeah.
• 44:17
  It was like a look into the future.
• 44:19
  And I texted my wife. I was like, I just want to move
• 44:21
  to the middle of nowhere and build a Moat and have a compound
• 44:25
  with our family because I I I think this is the future of
• 44:29
  America, seeing what that city looks like.
• 44:31
  And. Yeah, driving through, it was
• 44:33
  wild. We weren't there long, but that
• 44:34
  large mosque that we went to, I mean called a prayer.
• 44:38
  They're violating city laws. They do it at 5:30 in the
• 44:40
  morning. It's noise ordinance is 7.
• 44:43
  But good news is their mayor is a Muslim so he doesn't care.
• 44:46
  Doesn't care Well then the houses around it are just
• 44:49
  dilapidated and well as well too as you guys pulled out there's a
• 44:55
  Orthodox Church next door fun fact.
• 44:58
  And the security from the mosque comes out to.
• 45:02
  Basically trespasses kick us off the property.
• 45:04
  Hey, what are you guys doing? It's like we're not even on your
• 45:07
  property. Oh, so you So let's say a lot of
• 45:10
  the people in the mosque are in country illegally.
• 45:13
  They don't believe in borders or law enforcement.
• 45:16
  But as soon as we show up on the land next door that isn't yours,
• 45:22
  suddenly you have your own Border Patrol security and
• 45:27
  you're going to enforce your border.
• 45:30
  It's like, oh, this is this is adorable.
• 45:33
  Got it. Yep, makes sense.
• 45:35
  Speaking of adorable things, there was a wild progressive
• 45:40
  Democrat, theologic Christian Democrat.
• 45:44
  We know those don't exist. And to Lurko won an election in
• 45:51
  Texas upset against a Democratic black female, which is wild.
• 45:57
  And we're going to roll a clip of some of the craziest things
• 45:59
  he has said. And then I know you want to
• 46:02
  address some of the theological issues of what he has said.
• 46:05
  Do you know any undocumented immigrants?
• 46:08
  No, I did not. When I was a teacher on the West
• 46:10
  side of San Antonio, I taught a lot of students who were
• 46:14
  undocumented. And I don't want to stereotype,
• 46:16
  but those students tended to be the most patriotic, the hardest
• 46:21
  working students that I had in the classroom.
• 46:24
  And again, I haven't stated this enough to to say this
• 46:27
  definitively, but there are interpretations of certain
• 46:30
  passages from the Torah where some folks will even say that
• 46:34
  there is a there is some subtle instructions for how to perform
• 46:40
  an abortion in the ancient world, certain things to drink,
• 46:42
  things like that. Before we go further, I want to
• 46:44
  acknowledge that our trans community needs abortion care
• 46:48
  too. Defending Trans Texas is
• 46:51
  something we have to do every day at the state Capitol, and
• 46:55
  you better believe I'll be getting sermons on that too.
• 46:57
  So it's wild is the weapon he used to win this election
• 47:01
  largely was Christian language. Yeah, this is deconstructionism
• 47:04
  on the left. He's deconstruction.
• 47:07
  He's deconstructing historical Orthodox Christian faith.
• 47:11
  And the Democrats are all looking for a solution of I want
• 47:13
  to be a Christian Democrat and he gave him an option.
• 47:17
  He doesn't sound like a Christian to me.
• 47:20
  No, his election is a bit shocking.
• 47:25
  He was up against an incumbent who's well known and had money
• 47:29
  and momentum. And so, you know, my, my concern
• 47:32
  is that this is like a Noah's dove.
• 47:34
  You know, in, in the days of Noah, they sent the dove out to
• 47:38
  see if there was land. This is like sending out like
• 47:40
  the most woke progressive apostate Antichrist candidate
• 47:44
  and see if he can find some dry land.
• 47:46
  And he did. And so by background, he's got
• 47:49
  an M dip Masters in divinity. That's what you need to get to
• 47:52
  be ordained into the mainline denominations that are
• 47:55
  abominations. I've got to hear he went to
• 47:57
  Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary.
• 48:00
  It's Presbyterian Church USA. So the Presbyterian Church.
• 48:05
  There's the Presbyterian Church in America, which is, well, he's
• 48:08
  my right hand, more conservative.
• 48:10
  And then there's the Presbyterian Church USA, which
• 48:12
  is woke, apostate, liberal. I call them the lesbetterians.
• 48:15
  Those are the lesbetterians. So he went to a lesbetterian
• 48:19
  seminary, and he said that his lifelong pastor is Jim Rigby.
• 48:23
  So he looks to as his mentor. And in a 2015 Facebook post, his
• 48:30
  mentor claimed that the resurrection was simply a quote
• 48:33
  poem about the whole life process.
• 48:37
  So these are guys that think that Jesus isn't God, he didn't
• 48:42
  die on the cross for our sins, and that he stayed dead and the
• 48:45
  resurrection is a myth. I've actually got a list of
• 48:49
  things that he said God is non binary.
• 48:51
  He said God is both masculine and feminine and everything in
• 48:54
  between. So God is non binary gender
• 48:57
  spectrum. God is trans.
• 49:00
  He uses the virgin conception of Mary as a pro abortion argument.
• 49:06
  He was on Joe Rogan and he said that God asked for Mary's
• 49:11
  consent. To me that is an affirmation and
• 49:14
  one of our most central stories of creation has to be done with
• 49:17
  consent. The procreation has to be done
• 49:20
  with consent. So he's saying, well, Mary could
• 49:22
  have aborted Jesus, and so God is pro-choice and pro abortion.
• 49:27
  You're like, Mary aborting God was an option.
• 49:31
  Of course not three. In a sermon in 2022, he quotes
• 49:36
  the Gospel of Thomas. It's a second century Gnostic
• 49:39
  text, not in the Bible. And he argued that Jesus
• 49:44
  eliminated traditional gender distinctions, saying, quote,
• 49:49
  make the male and female one and do the same.
• 49:52
  So he's quoting the Gospel of Thomas, saying Jesus
• 49:55
  deconstructed gender #4 religious pluralism, that you
• 49:59
  don't need Jesus to go to heaven.
• 50:00
  He says, I believe Christianity points to the truth.
• 50:02
  I believe other religions of love point to the truth.
• 50:08
  So you can be any religion and God is fine with you #5 all
• 50:11
  religions contain the same truth.
• 50:13
  He says quote, all religions quote point to the same truth.
• 50:18
  And number six, he always uses the Jesus never said this.
• 50:23
  So it's in, in, in, in rhetoric and debate.
• 50:26
  This is the argument from silence.
• 50:28
  Well, Jesus didn't say anything about nuclear weapons.
• 50:32
  Well that doesn't mean he was for them.
• 50:34
  And they didn't have nuclear weapons, so it probably wasn't a
• 50:37
  massive subject to the dead. I mean, Jesus, yeah, Jesus
• 50:40
  didn't address only fans, so yeah, that one.
• 50:43
  'S totally he so he says like Jesus never say anything about
• 50:47
  abortion, transgenderism or gay marriage.
• 50:49
  It's like, well actually Jesus did.
• 50:51
  He goes back and he quotes Genesis.
• 50:53
  In the beginning God made them male and female.
• 50:57
  Therefore marriage is for one man and one woman.
• 51:00
  So he's lying. Plus, Jesus talked about Sodom
• 51:02
  and Gomorrah, and so these clowns, they'll actually say
• 51:07
  that the reason that God nukes Sodom and Gomorrah is not
• 51:10
  because of sexual perversion, which it says in Jude and First
• 51:13
  Peter. They would say it's because of
• 51:15
  in hospitality that strangers showed up and they didn't get, I
• 51:19
  don't know, milk and cookies. So God sent flaming Ron tar to
• 51:21
  the entire city. And then #7HE describes Jesus.
• 51:26
  And this is a quote a radical feminist.
• 51:28
  I know. And So what you're looking at
• 51:31
  here, so when I first started in ministries a long time ago,
• 51:36
  there was the beginning of the emerging church and it was the
• 51:38
  original deconstructionist. And there was a guy named Rob
• 51:41
  Bell who's now, you know, a pantheist and completely
• 51:44
  apostate. This is the next round of
• 51:49
  progressive liberal apostate pseudo Christianity.
• 51:53
  The the Bible would call this a false teacher.
• 51:56
  This is not a version of Christianity.
• 51:59
  This is Antichrist, and So what you're seeing here is someone
• 52:06
  who is pretending to be Christian in an effort to
• 52:10
  deceive gullible, naive potential Christians.
• 52:14
  Jesus will decide if this man goes to heaven or hell.
• 52:18
  I have no expectation to see him in heaven.
• 52:22
  Is 0 expectation to see him in heaven?
• 52:26
  But what you're seeing here as well is if this becomes the new
• 52:29
  Democratic playbook, let's find woke liberal progressive Bible
• 52:35
  quoting apostate unbeliever pseudo pastors to run for office
• 52:41
  and that can pull enough of the confused middle toward the
• 52:46
  Democratic Party. This is a this is a devastating
• 52:50
  strategy and it could lead the way for Pete Buttigieg.
• 52:54
  So Pete Buttigieg would quote the Bible and say he loves Jesus
• 52:58
  and him and his gay husband air quotes and their adoptive kid or
• 53:04
  kids, I don't know where they're out on number.
• 53:07
  He would be the guy that would be in this exact same lane that
• 53:10
  would be a presidential contender.
• 53:12
  Yep, it's very dangerous. And I think liberal Christians
• 53:16
  are looking for this, that the, the people that still believe
• 53:19
  you can be a Democrat and a Christian that haven't realized
• 53:22
  that everything has moved over the last 20 years.
• 53:25
  And it's so he, he knows better. He, he knows the Bible.
• 53:30
  So he's not being foolish, he's being evil.
• 53:33
  So foolish people are, they just don't know.
• 53:36
  Evil people are malicious, intentional and calculated.
• 53:39
  And So what we're seeing is we're seeing certain people that
• 53:43
  are maybe they're cultural influencers or content creators
• 53:47
  or artists, let's say they have a conversion experience and they
• 53:50
  get rushed to the microphone because they have a platform and
• 53:52
  they say things and they're new believers and they don't know
• 53:55
  what they're talking about. And there's a lot of grace for
• 53:57
  that. It's like, hey, go get
• 53:58
  discipled, read a few books, give it a few years and then
• 54:02
  come back. Don't.
• 54:03
  Don't be verbal processing your belief system.
• 54:06
  Maybe like Trump does where he's like, I'm not going to make it
• 54:09
  into heaven. And everyone's like, wait.
• 54:11
  I thought that was funny. It's like, actually that's not.
• 54:13
  None of us thinks that's funny, you know, because you don't work
• 54:17
  your way to heaven. So but a guy like this, this is
• 54:20
  methodical, intentional calculated deception.
• 54:26
  This is premeditated. This is not accidental and and
• 54:30
  so this is. You're profiting off the gospel.
• 54:33
  This is demonic and you're quoting the word of God and
• 54:35
  other texts, but he's doing so in this clever sort of nuanced,
• 54:40
  you know, Well, in the Old Testament, some interpretations
• 54:43
  of the Torah would give a impression.
• 54:45
  You're like, dude, dude, do you really think in the Old
• 54:50
  Testament when Baroness was just a great tragic loss and an
• 54:57
  exodus? If you, I think it's an exodus.
• 54:59
  If if a woman is pregnant and two men are fighting and they
• 55:03
  bump into the pregnant lady, the baby dies.
• 55:05
  It's a crime. I mean, do you, do you really
• 55:09
  think that these are pro death people, pro abortion people?
• 55:12
  You know, like it's insanity. He says that in the Bible 2000
• 55:16
  times it's talked about so economic injustice and social
• 55:22
  justice, and it's like, that's not in the Bible.
• 55:24
  I don't even know what you're pulling out for economic
• 55:26
  justice. Stealing is, you know, bad.
• 55:30
  It's a commandment. But by applying that to the
• 55:33
  government to redistribute wealth and encourage socialism,
• 55:35
  there are two different things altogether.
• 55:37
  If somebody breaks into your house and takes your TV, the
• 55:40
  Bible says thou shalt not steal. That's what it's talking about.
• 55:43
  Furthermore, when the government takes private property from a
• 55:46
  citizen for the cause of equity and redistribution, according to
• 55:50
  socialism, that is not economic justice.
• 55:54
  That is a violation of private property ownership and thou
• 55:57
  shalt not steal. And so, but again, the problem
• 56:00
  too becomes in most churches, they're not doing worldview.
• 56:03
  They're doing self help and five tips to a better you and three
• 56:07
  ways to feel better about yourself.
• 56:09
  And so it, it, it doesn't give people categories.
• 56:11
  So if somebody seems nice and they're quoting the Bible,
• 56:15
  there's a large percentage of naive Christians who are like, I
• 56:18
  don't know, he believes the Bible and he's a Christian.
• 56:21
  That's the deception of it. Yeah, it's I was listening to
• 56:25
  somebody talk about he he was saying that quoting the verses
• 56:29
  where Jesus speaks on helping the needy, the poor, the widows,
• 56:33
  the orphans. That's to the church and to the
• 56:35
  Christian. That's not to the government,
• 56:37
  no. It's not.
• 56:38
  It's not civil, it's personal. And so he's twisting it all to
• 56:42
  be the the government is the religion, and the government
• 56:45
  should be helping the people and redistributing the wealth.
• 56:48
  So the government is stealing. So yeah, the mental pretzel, he
• 56:52
  has to put himself in it. But shame to those on the on the
• 56:56
  right. It'd be like, you know, in the
• 56:57
  pulpit. We shouldn't talk about
• 56:58
  politics. It's like, well, this guy is in
• 57:02
  the pulpit. Yeah.
• 57:04
  Blaspheming God. Kamala Harris last election was
• 57:08
  in the pulpit. So, you know, the progressive
• 57:13
  church has opened up to progressive politicians and
• 57:17
  allowed blasphemous sermons. And if they're willing to talk
• 57:22
  about the issues now they're not even political issues.
• 57:24
  Now we're talking about his biblical issues.
• 57:26
  And so the Bible teachers need to teach and those who just say,
• 57:29
  well, I just preach the gospel and I just teach the Bible.
• 57:31
  It's like you are no help whatsoever because you can't
• 57:34
  teach faithfully through the word of God and not hit issues
• 57:37
  of life, family, marriage, gender, private property
• 57:41
  ownership, human sexuality. I'm.
• 57:44
  Not sure if he's read Romans. Well, I didn't read it
• 57:47
  correctly. I mean, you can't read Romans
• 57:50
  one and end up with, you know, our trans community needs
• 57:53
  abortion care. First of all, abortion care.
• 57:57
  Like we're going to murder a baby that's not caring for them.
• 58:00
  This is where it's anybody who cares about the truth at some
• 58:04
  point just starts to get pissed. Yeah, because this is all just
• 58:07
  wordsmithing and Satan is the father of lies.
• 58:10
  Yep, Yep, 100%. And earlier you referenced the
• 58:16
  person that gets saved and is wrestling through their faith.
• 58:18
  And some of those people are doing that very publicly through
• 58:20
  podcasts and things like that. And one of those guys, young
• 58:23
  guys we're seeing that seems to be really struggling is Shia
• 58:26
  LaBeouf. He has been really vocal about
• 58:29
  his Catholic faith in recent years and he's struggling.
• 58:34
  He is he is going through it. So we wanted to roll the clip of
• 58:37
  him and then talk about what can young guys do.
• 58:41
  What would you say to Jesus if you could meet Him?
• 58:43
  I want to say. Really.
• 58:47
  No bro, I kiss God kiss him, I just kiss him, I kiss his feet.
• 58:57
  No one say nothing. Chill out with these questions,
• 59:06
  Andrew. My bad, I didn't know I'm.
• 59:09
  A real Catholic bro, A real 1. I just thought you had thought
• 59:12
  about. It I'm a real one bro.
• 59:14
  I want to believe it's something.
• 59:17
  Well hey bro, you got to hit your head into the wall hard
• 59:19
  enough where you just go. That's the only way, dog.
• 59:24
  That's how you find God. Yep.
• 59:25
  For me, for the hard headed ones, yeah, you got to go hard.
• 59:29
  What do you think was the real life equivalent of you smashing
• 59:31
  your head? On the wall, I put a gun in my
• 59:33
  mouth. I was ready to kill myself, Blow
• 59:34
  my brains out writing letters. Yeah.
• 59:37
  Dark days for real gone, Ready to go.
• 59:40
  Why didn't you do it? Why didn't I do it 'cause I'm
• 59:43
  pussy. And also my mom.
• 59:44
  So God bless her, she kept me alive that night.
• 59:47
  And also some dude, I've said it already, but there was a dude
• 59:50
  who hit me up, this guy from the program I used to save all the
• 59:54
  numbers in my phone, you know, Joey A, A, Bobby A, A, Tommy A,
• 59:58
  A. And there was a cat who hit me
• 1:00:00
  up that night. I was ready to go and he hit me
• 1:00:03
  up. He said, hey, what are you
• 1:00:03
  doing? Or something like that.
• 1:00:04
  And then I was like trying to explain myself like bro.
• 1:00:08
  This I'm out of here life. I can't take it no more.
• 1:00:11
  I just lost my girlfriend. She's walking out the door.
• 1:00:13
  My wife didn't know the ex is ensuing.
• 1:00:16
  It's all just I can't wrap my head around at all.
• 1:00:21
  I'm out of here, bro. And he's like, Oh yeah, cool.
• 1:00:23
  Tell me about it in the morning. And I thought you mother an
• 1:00:27
  insensitive piece of shit. And he bought me the night.
• 1:00:30
  I was so angry. I need to talk to him in the
• 1:00:32
  morning. Sometimes that'll save you.
• 1:00:34
  Sometimes just being and like, sometimes madness, rage will
• 1:00:38
  save you from really scary stuff.
• 1:00:40
  I don't know. I'm not in charge, you know,
• 1:00:42
  God's running. I just try my best and I'm not
• 1:00:46
  refined. And I'm one of them dirty
• 1:00:48
  Christian. So this is the kind of guy you
• 1:00:50
  minister often. I mean, we call that a Tuesday
• 1:00:52
  night at Real Men. Tuesday night, real men.
• 1:00:54
  We'd love to have you shot. We Jenny would love to have.
• 1:00:56
  Yeah. He was working on the film.
• 1:00:57
  What was it Padre Paio so he had to immerse himself, you know,
• 1:01:02
  actor has to prepare for a role into Catholicism and monastic
• 1:01:07
  and apparently genuinely converted and and gave his life
• 1:01:11
  to Christ. So dirty Christian.
• 1:01:17
  You know, it's I would tell him this here's a here's a freebie
• 1:01:23
  for everybody who feels like a dirty Christian.
• 1:01:24
  So there's a picture in Zechariah 3.
• 1:01:27
  I just thought of this. So there's a picture in
• 1:01:28
  Zechariah 3. There's Joshua Jesus and then
• 1:01:33
  there's this Sinner and Jesus is wearing all white clean, pure
• 1:01:37
  righteous. And then the filthy center is
• 1:01:41
  just covered in dung and mud and filth and disgust.
• 1:01:46
  Like think of the homeless guy that's been on the street and
• 1:01:49
  hasn't had a shower in 10 years. That guy, they're standing next
• 1:01:53
  to each other. And the picture I think it's in
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  Zechariah 3 is that Jesus takes off their outer garment that is
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  just disgusting and takes his off and puts his garment on the
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  center and then puts the sinner's garment on him.
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  It's this fantastic picture of what happened at the cross and
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  that is that God took our place and he put us in his place. 2nd
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  Corinthians 521 God made him a new no sin to become sin so that
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  in him we might become the righteousness of God.
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  Martin Luther literally called this the great exchange.
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  And so Jesus takes all of our filth and he gives us all of his
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  righteousness. This is why in the Bible, God's
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  people wear white. They're forgiven, they're pure.
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  And there's a doctrine called expiation.
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  And that is not only are we forgiven, we're made righteous
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  and clean. It says in first John, if we
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  confess our sins to one another, walk in the light, you know,
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  then he cleanses. He forgives us of our sin and he
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  cleanses us from all unrighteousness.
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  Many Christians know they're forgiven.
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  They still feel they're dirty. Yep.
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  Feels like a guy like Shia LaBeouf, like he, he would look
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  at a religious person, somebody in the church that's doing all
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  the right things. And I'll never measure up to
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  that, but I, it's too late. But I can watch a guy like Shia
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  LaBeouf and you're like, I think you're a lot closer to being
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  saved than the elder on that church's board.
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  It's the religious guy who's judging everyone while he's
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  cheating on his wife and knows better, so you cannot.
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  Dealing with religious fraudsters is hard.
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  As a pastor, I can deal with brutal honesty.
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  So in a lot of churches, I can't believe his language.
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  Look, let me say this, you're saved by grace and then you're
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  cleaned up over time. This just proves you're not
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  saved by your performance and your good works.
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  So what it seems to be is it seems to be he seems to have
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  genuinely met the Lord, has a reverence and a respect and
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  affection for the Lord. It's very genuine.
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  Seems like he's a very troubled man, mental health, addiction,
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  probably some trauma in his life and some some, some really, he's
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  a gifted, profoundly troubled man.
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  And a lot of guys would probably relate to him and say, I, I am a
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  Christian and I, I wouldn't maybe say it like that at
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  church, but you put 2 beers in me and that's exactly how I
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  would say it. Yeah, and this is where the
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  evangelical church has failed reprehensibly for guys like
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  this, because 75% of the donor basin evangelicalism is women.
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  Up until recently, 60% of attenders were women, and all of
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  the Christian subculture was safe, positive and uplifting for
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  the whole family. Except for them.
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  That this guy ain't like. You don't want this guy.
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  Hey, Shy Labeouf's here, and he's ready to give his, you
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  know, testimony to the homeschool Co-op, you know?
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  Yeah, for sure. I mean, all the all the soccer
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  moms you know are going to be going zero to 60.
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  So is there a place for a guy like this that he can get
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  discipled? And in most churches, the answer
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  is no. No, once you get your crap
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  together and you get married and you're sober and you don't cuss
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  anymore and you're no longer a liability and we sort of, you've
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  worked the feral out. Well, then you're welcome in.
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  So you got to work out the feral if you want to get into
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  fellowship. This is why a lot of guys don't
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  go to church. They don't fit.
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  They're like, I'm still feral. You know, I'm not ready to get
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  in there. And I mean, you drop this guy
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  in, you know, send him to the average.
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  Oh, he get trespassed. Home life group.
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  Yep, you know, like hey, we have a Bible study group at Ned
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  Flanders house and him and his wife would.
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  I mean this dude sits on the couch.
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  It's crazy as most churches won't deal with him but they'll
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  let the guy, the pervy middle-aged religious guy, come
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  in and talk about his porn addiction and they have whole
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  support groups for that. But this guy, the young guy in
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  his twenties, 30s, he's not welcome.
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  That's gross. That's unacceptable.
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  We can't have that guy there. He's unsafe.
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  I have 100% heart for these guys.
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  You have a men's ministry full of them.
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  Well, this is on Tuesday night. This is so we we have real men.
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  It's much bigger than the building in the parking lot.
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  So I got to get the new building open.
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  Wednesday nights on online 400,000 guys.
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  Yeah. And, and part of it is like, as
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  we're going to open the new building for the church, we, we
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  got a new building. We can't get men's, women's
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  students on the same night because women's, the grace does
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  is too big and men's is too big and it's all too big and doesn't
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  fit. So I'm going to have to keep
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  men's on Tuesday night and then do a second version on Wednesday
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  night. And I was praying about him,
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  like, Lord, why can't I get it all together?
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  And honestly, it's for this guy. So Tuesday night we've got and
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  these I mean, he actually would fit at real men totally.
• 1:07:03
  He would sit at a table and his table lead wouldn't even blink.
• 1:07:07
  He'd be like, you're the fourth guy I met like this this week.
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  We got guys coming in. They're still feral, they're
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  coming in still drunk or hungover.
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  They're riding Harleys, they're carrying guns, they got knives,
• 1:07:20
  they got baby Mama drama. They I mean, they just come with
• 1:07:22
  baggage and carry ONS. But that's why we call it real
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  men, not religious men, just teaching worship, worship,
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  teaching. Get around the table.
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  And dudes are just getting honest and just be honest.
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  Like, here's where I'm at. Great.
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  OK, You're 7 feet underground. You've dug quite a hole.
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  Thanks for being honest. At least we know where we're
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  starting. It's the guy who comes in like,
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  praise the Lord, I've had the best week.
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  You're like, no, you're probably not being honest.
• 1:07:50
  Probably not being honest. But then we don't have women on
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  campus and we don't have children on campus because these
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  guys are a little feral. Yeah, that's good.
• 1:07:57
  So it's like just show up and and the guys that still smoke,
• 1:08:01
  their groups are outside. Totally big cigar parties out
• 1:08:04
  there. Smoke away if you want to smoke.
• 1:08:06
  We got a smoking section. I don't care.
• 1:08:08
  I want to reduce all the barriers for guys to not only
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  meet Jesus, but to get in relationship and get disciple.
• 1:08:14
  Because what he said was I could communicate with the guys in a
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  A. And the question is like, well,
• 1:08:22
  why aren't there guys in the church that are willing to be in
• 1:08:25
  the process like the guys in a A?
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  Because it's an ugly, long, messy process. 2 steps forward,
• 1:08:32
  one to two steps back. It's going to be a while before
• 1:08:35
  this guy is, you know, on his feet and doing well.
• 1:08:39
  Yep. Yeah, I'm one of our biggest
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  evangelist at the church. You love him party.
• 1:08:46
  He leads like 5 different AA groups and has brought more
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  people to Jesus and the church than probably anyone else.
• 1:08:52
  He's an evangelist. He would totally take Shia.
• 1:08:55
  And he would have showed up at 2:00 in the morning and.
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  Yeah. So actually we've got a couple
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  of guys that would be great mentors and disciples and, and
• 1:09:04
  entire tables of guys like this that are in it together.
• 1:09:07
  And so I see this, the language doesn't offend me, the honesty
• 1:09:11
  doesn't offend me, the attitude doesn't offend me.
• 1:09:13
  What does offend me is there's probably not a church that would
• 1:09:16
  welcome him and help. But the the the Democrat we just
• 1:09:20
  talked about James, plenty of churches would let him preach in
• 1:09:23
  the pulpit, and he has a Mdiv. And.
• 1:09:27
  What? What?
• 1:09:27
  So what that James dude, What is he?
• 1:09:29
  James Talarico? Yeah, Talarico.
• 1:09:32
  So what that guy is saying is infinitely more disgusting,
• 1:09:37
  reprehensible, offensive and godless then what Shia said.
• 1:09:44
  A. 100% James would never weep at at the thought of seeing
• 1:09:49
  Jesus shy. If you saw Jesus, what would you
• 1:09:53
  do? He just immediately started
• 1:09:55
  weeping. You can't fake that.
• 1:09:56
  No, that that's a guy. That's that's real and in it.
• 1:10:00
  I'd be terrified if I was James Talarico and I saw Jesus.
• 1:10:04
  That's that's judgement Day. And like a fire day.
• 1:10:08
  Yeah, like it is. There's no reverence in one of
• 1:10:12
  those men. No.
• 1:10:14
  And I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure that standing before the
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  judgement seat of Christ, that Shia, according to what I can
• 1:10:24
  see, is going to get welcomed into the Kingdom and the guy
• 1:10:30
  with the M Div is going to get cuts in the line to hell.
• 1:10:32
  For sure, 100% hundred. Percent.
• 1:10:34
  So I tell Shia, like, if you're ever in Arizona, I'd love to
• 1:10:37
  meet you. I will meet with you.
• 1:10:39
  I, I would do it anonymously and privately.
• 1:10:42
  I do this a lot. I meet with guys and I care and
• 1:10:47
  I try to be of help and be available going forward.
• 1:10:49
  And if you ever want to, if you're ever in Arizona Tuesday
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  night, real men, we've got a massive army of dudes you would
• 1:10:56
  100% fit right in. And I can guarantee you a group
• 1:11:01
  of guys that have been where you're at and would walk with
• 1:11:06
  you through a process to get to the other side. 100% and if
• 1:11:10
  you're a guy that feels like shy, text men to 99383, that's
• 1:11:14
  men to 99383 and we will send you a link to join us for real
• 1:11:18
  men this week. We'd love to have you.
• 1:11:21
  It is not a place for religious dudes.
• 1:11:23
  It's a place for guys like shy that are open and honest and
• 1:11:26
  want to get better and do better that are in the process of
• 1:11:29
  sanctification. So thank you guys for tuning in
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