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How Simple Breathing Techniques Can Change Your Life with Dr. Sachin Patel · Non-Toxic Living

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  Many people eat in a fight or flight state, and digestion is a rest and digest activity, right?
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  It's a parasympathetic activity, so it's no wonder they have digestive issues because their nervous
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  system is not in the correct state. So something as simple as doing some box breathing before they
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  have their meal shifts them into, if you want that, it's available to you. Just get rid of the
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  crap, get outside, put your feet on the ground, get connected to nature, start breathing, and see what
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  you might feel, see what you might experience, and it very well could change your life because it
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  did change mind. They say the eyes are window into the soul. The breath is a window into the nervous
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  system. So when the state of our nervous system changes, the first thing observation that you can
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  make on somebody is the way their breath changes. One of the fastest ways to regulate the nervous
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  system is so when people are on this journey, what's the biggest mistake they make when they're
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  trying to heal naturally? I think the biggest mistake that people make when they're trying to
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  heal naturally is...
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  Soch and welcome to the show. I'm so happy to have you here. We've been friends a long time,
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  so it's an honor and a privilege to have you here. So let's not everyone knows you, so let's
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  get into how did you wind up and functional medicine, coaching practitioners, online practice,
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  doing all the things that you do. Sure, well first of all, thank you. Yeah. Thank you for being here.
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  Thank you for doing this. I appreciate the opportunity. So my story starts as a car
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  tractor. And as a car tractor is working with elite athletes, working with Olympians,
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  gold medalists, silver medalists in Beijing, so that takes ages me a little bit. But many years
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  ago, many lifetimes ago, it feels like that's what I was working with, a high performing elite
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  athletes helping them run faster, helping them run injury free, helping them throw further,
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  throw faster. Any javelin throwers? I did. I actually had one of my clients was a heptapilite.
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  Oh yeah. So she would do a bunch of, you know, it's a it's a very unique sport because you have
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  to be good at a lot of different things, throwing, jumping, sprinting. And so one of the things that
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  I learned in helping those people is that they were not really focused on being healthy.
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  They were focused on performing better. And many times those can be two different things.
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  In 2006, I was featured on the news as a result of some of the work that we were doing.
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  And that catapulted my exposure to really unwell people. So we went from seeing what I would call
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  some of the healthiest people in our community. Elite athletes, as I mentioned, to seeing some of
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  the sickest people overnight. The story that ran was about elbow pain. And all these people came in,
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  none of that might elbow pain. They had all kinds of varied conditions,
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  Lyme disease, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, you name it. The things that, you know,
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  perhaps now I have solutions for at the time I didn't. And that's when I started learning what
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  functional medicine and going down the functional medicine rabbit hole, I, you know, learned about
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  how to evaluate my clients more carefully looking at them outside of just their physical body,
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  looking at what's happening inside the invisible factors that we can't really see.
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  And as I started handing out a functional medicine intake form to my chiropractic patients,
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  I saw the opportunity to be in greater service to them because many of them had all kinds of
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  other issues that they would have never thought to bring to me. And I was never really assessing or
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  evaluating them. So this led me down the functional medicine path. And that really opened up my
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  eyes to what's possible in terms of helping people. And then I started realizing that there's a
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  simple framework that we can use to help people, which is teaching them how to take care of themselves.
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  And that's what was missing in healthcare. So I started coaching practitioners around that. And
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  now I train practitioners all over the world, teaching them how to apply simple, affordable,
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  practical solutions using, you know, innate intelligence philosophies, which is what we learn in
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  chiropractic to help them be the best version of themselves and create rapid transformation in their
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  health. Yeah, I've seen it, you know, over and over again, especially with one thing that happens
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  with chiropractors is it's kind of like where the sick people go. And if they think that you're smart,
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  they come running to your door because chiropractors have a different philosophy, right? The body
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  does heal. There is innate healing within us. It doesn't come from a pill or a potion or a medication.
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  It comes from within. So it's a powerful message that needs to be shared with the world. So I'm
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  going to ask you a bunch of different questions here. And I want you to rip through them from me
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  in that light. What is the number one myth that clients and patients believe that's actually
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  keeping them sick? I think the number one myth when it comes to something that keeps people sick
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  is where they look for answers. Most people look outside of them for answers, thinking that
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  something external to them is going to fix them when really it's helping them understand that
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  their body is the only thing that can fix them from the inside from within. Now the outside
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  environment plays a huge role because it allows our genes to properly express themselves, but
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  ultimately it's our body that does the healing. You won't find the answer in the bottom of a pill
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  bottle. You won't find the answer at the bottom of a prescription bottle. And that doesn't mean
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  that these things don't help and can't support people, but ultimately we are our own best medicine.
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  We are our own surgeon, our own pharmacy, our own nurse, our own doctor. And it's our obligation
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  as practitioners to help people see that and teach them what unlocks that medicine inside of them.
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  Yeah, I'd like to say it's like you people are looking to a doctor or to a system and you're from
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  Canada. I'm sick. My health care system, the national health care system, which is so great
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  in Canada is going to fix me. I don't have to worry about anything. I get free medications,
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  all this stuff. I can just retire and have an abundant life, but that doesn't give you an
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  abundant life. It's actually quite the opposite because there's very few medications that are
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  going to give you an abundant life. They can give you a short term. They can give you some fix,
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  get away some pain, but it's not giving you longevity necessarily. Your side effects to all that
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  stuff. So that's an interesting, I really like that approach. So why do you tell your patients
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  that they're their own surgeon, that they're their own pharmacy? Why do you say that? Because they
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  are. And I've witnessed it over and over and over again. If you think about it, when we were born,
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  two cells came together, started dividing. And that created us. And we are literally holograms,
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  cells are dying, cells are being reborn in every single moment of our life. In fact, during this
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  interview, millions of cells will die and be reborn silently. And just like buying a new card
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  doesn't make you a better driver, giving you new cells doesn't necessarily make you healthier,
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  unless you change the signal to those cells, unless you change the environment that you're in,
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  unless you change the status of your nervous system, those are the things that signal the cells
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  to perform at their best, so that you have what we call homeostasis, which is balance. That's
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  what the body's always striving for. And if our environment, food choices, emotional baggage,
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  these type of things, take us out of homeostasis, we never get to experience true health. And I don't
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  believe in the philosophy of waiting until your health breaks down by somebody else's arbitrary
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  standards, right? When people go to the doctor, the doctor, they could be terribly, they could feel
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  terrible, feel so unwell, and the doctor would tell them everything's normal because their
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  health isn't meeting their standards or their disease isn't meeting the standards that have been
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  set out by medicine. So why wait until you get that sick to then learn how to be healthy? What I'd
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  love to see is a world where people know how to take care of themselves from the moment they're
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  born or at least their parents do, that would create a completely different life and trajectory
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  for that person. Their ability to contribute, their ability to serve, their ability to experience
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  life would be totally different versus living incorrectly or incongruently for 30, 40, 50 years,
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  because it takes that long to destroy your body. It doesn't happen overnight, no. And it's kind
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  of the gift in the curse. Our bodies are so resilient, so we can abuse them for many decades
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  until we have to put pain and repercussions, but that's also what makes them so beautiful. Imagine
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  if we took care of them where that could take us. Yeah, I mean, that's one thing I love about you
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  is that everything comes back to if we take care of our bodies, we can help humanity. If our
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  children are healthy, we have a brighter future. It's not just health so that I can have a better
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  sex drive or live longer. There's a bigger meaning to health and healing. If you're healthy,
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  if your child is healthy, the impact, the solutions you can provide to humanity, the love that you
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  can give far exceeds your own personal gain. So when people are on this journey, what's the biggest
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  mistake they make when they're trying to heal naturally? I think the biggest mistake that people
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  make when they're trying to heal naturally is they try to do too much all at once. They try to
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  outsource their health and healing instead of insourcing it and they lose faith in their body
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  because they've been convinced somehow along the way that their body is broken. In fact,
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  their bodies are allies. The only thing that's been working for them 24-7 from the moment they've
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  been born. So we try to first change their psychology around their body, change the awareness
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  around their body and change the recognition that the body is going to do most of the healing.
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  The majority of the healing as long as we provide it with the right information and environment in
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  order for it to do that. So first thing is we got to help people understand that they are the
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  most potent medicine that exists that can heal themselves. Nothing can fix their body better
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  than can fix itself. And so what we teach people to do is how to become their own doctor. What I
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  believe is the doctor of the future isn't me. It's the patient. And that is a complete flip in the
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  way we approach healthcare right now because right now people are going to see somebody else to fix
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  them. But I believe health is really simple. You know, Da Vinci said that the greatest
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  sign of sophistication is simplicity, which to me means if the body is the most sophisticated
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  piece of equipment or machinery that we know of, it should be simple to take care of. In fact,
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  what I teach people to do is embarrassingly simple. The more complicated the process gets,
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  the more it moves away from the laws of nature. You see the way God created us is to be simple
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  to take care of. In fact, many of our counterparts, like animals, don't have to think about their health.
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  They don't have to think about watching the sunrise and sunset. They don't have to think about
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  their circadian rhythm. They don't have to think about grounding. They don't have to be
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  think about eating in season. They're already doing those things. All those things. Just by living
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  in congruence with their environment, human beings for the reasons of convenience and other factors,
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  we've become, you know, we've separated ourselves from our environment. One of the greatest
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  mistakes we've made is we don't look at ourselves as animals. And when we don't look at ourselves as
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  animals, it's easy for us to go down a path of incongruence. You know, if we treated our pets the
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  way we treat ourselves, they would live half as long. And so when we do, they do live half as long.
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  Right. They have disease. They get cancer. They get tumors. When we do the medical treadmill on
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  them. But if we they eat raw, they run around. They're in the sun. They're healthy. They're,
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  you know, they're eating the right types of foods. They're not eating glyphosate,
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  sprayed grains. They live much healthier, longer lives. They don't have bad breath. They don't have
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  bad teeth. You know, you know, they shouldn't. Right. Most of the problems that people have these days
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  didn't exist a few hundred years ago. But we didn't live as long. I get that. A lot of
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  us would do a sanitation. And I'm grateful for the medical miracles and marvels that are available.
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  In fact, you know, emergency medicine saved my wife's life and my son's life. So I'm indebted to,
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  you know, the possibilities that it offers. But it didn't make either one of them healthier.
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  In fact, the thing that made both of them as healthy as they are is declining many of the medical
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  interventions that were suggested to them. And not listening to the opinions and the theories
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  that were postulated. So, you know, one big mistake that people make is not believing that their
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  body is capable because there's just so beat down and convinced that it isn't the most potent
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  tool that they have to heal. That's one of the biggest paradigms, I think. And you're doing a good
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  job of removing this paradigm is that we need a doctor to heal. And you're saying you don't need a
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  doctor heal. You are your best doctor. And it's a mindset issue. And I 100% agree with you.
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  The further away you get from nature, the more unhealthy you're going to be. So every decision
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  that you're making from the clothes that you're wearing, oh, it's polyester with no frequency
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  with no BPA free sticker on it. But it's probably, it probably has BPA. It may even have
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  T-fos. It may have, you know, who knows what? You know, hormone disrupting compound,
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  carcinogenic compound. It's not on the label. And they don't have to let you know what that is,
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  whoever there is, from out of high flame retardants. And so far away from nature as it's intended.
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  Just clothing. But then we're talking medications. We're talking the hair care products that are
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  50% petroleum-based toxins and hormone disruptive. And the lotion you're put on that's
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  50%, you know, petroleum-based toxins. And eventually it's like your body's resilient. But like we
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  talked about the germ theory, the terrain that you need to be healthy, strong and robust is now
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  breaking down. And the further away we get from God. In his design, the sicker we get. And so
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  the spiritual part is also, I think, important because we do have a design. There's no one,
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  you know, the greatest mathematician and geniuses of our time. And of over the last thousand years,
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  what I'll agree in an intelligent design is the very least. So I love that, you know, once again,
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  you know, we align. And even we didn't, I wouldn't care. But we're not separate from nature.
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  Yeah, we're not. And the more we, like you said, the more we separate ourselves,
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  the less health we can express. Yeah, sunshine, grounding, you know, and it's funny that
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  they tell us to slather on sunscreen and not get into sun. Of course they do. Where sun,
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  where sun glasses and, you know, it's all money-driven, right? It's so, it's a pretty silly, you know.
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  Well, you know, I think hopefully it's coming around. Yeah, it is, right? For me, it's really,
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  I just see a huge opportunity for healing to take place for people. You know, I tell my clients,
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  listen, you are an outdoor plant that somehow got planted indoors. And you weren't taught the
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  rules of engagement. So what most people do is they don't realize what buckets they need to fill
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  each day. And therefore, they never get to truly express health. And the analogy I can share is
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  imagine taking a plant and putting it in a dark closet and negotiating with the plant and telling
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  it, listen, I know I'm putting you in a dark closet, but I'm going to give you more water.
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  Right? The plants are still going to die and it's still going to wilt. It's not dying more quickly
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  because the roots are going to, right? And it's not going to fully express itself. Right? So most
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  of us, we're missing, you know, non-negotiable aspects of health, expecting to be healthy.
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  And then we use things, even supplements to prop us up, when in reality, we're missing, you know,
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  the environmental inputs that are so necessary. A good example is vitamin D, you know. And not to say
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  the vitamin D can be helpful, but what we're finding now is that it doesn't actually reduce all
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  cause mortality. So vitamin D, while it can prop somebody's lab numbers up, that isn't the only
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  benefit of the sun. When you know, vitamin D is low, it's a proxy for not getting enough sunlight.
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  But there's other genes that are activated when you're outdoors. Somebody who is low in vitamin D
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  is low in fresh air. Their circadian rhythm is probably off. They're probably not grounding. They're
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  probably not inhaling the microbiome of nature and improving their terrain. So there's a lot of
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  things that they're missing aside from the vitamin D being low. And so we can give them vitamin D
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  and they can come back a few months later and their levels are going to be optimized, so to speak.
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  But we didn't change the behavior. So we have to also understand the labs don't tell the whole
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  picture. This is a big mistake. And probably probably one of the bigger mistakes that people make is
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  they rely on labs to tell the whole story. But your labs don't tell me what time you went to bed
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  last night. Your labs don't tell me how much you love yourself. Your labs don't tell me if
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  you're breathing through your nose or your mouth, your labs don't tell me what your oral microbiome
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  looks like. Your labs don't tell me what your connection to source or nature is if you're grounding
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  what type of fabrics you're wearing. None of that stuff shows up in your lab work. And these are
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  the simple things that people can start doing immediately. The body doesn't resist. The body
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  doesn't resist. It insists that you do these things. This is why we feel better almost immediately
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  when we go outside, when we get our feet in the grass, when we step away from our devices,
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  when we go to bed at a reasonable time, when we watch the sunrise and sunset, these are things
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  that are absolutely necessary inputs for us to express our health. And so there's nothing in a
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  pill bottle that you can get that replaces that. And there's nothing that you can do to test your
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  lab work that actually identifies those problems. So people are kind of chasing their tail wondering
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  why their labs look normal and they don't feel good. It's because not all the things that we need
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  to express for health are going to show up in our lab work. Some of the most important things.
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  Absolutely. They're free. Yep. They're important. And they move the needle quickly in your life.
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  And I when someone asks me like, what are the three most important things you do? I'm like
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  more fresh air, get out in the sunshine, especially in the morning and get your feet on the ground.
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  And that's going to freaking change your life. Oh yeah. Like in the science backs it up to the
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  hilt peer reviewed, you know, yeah, literature talks about all this stuff and it gets marginalized
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  because it's not driving the system, you know, that we live in the the convenient system. And I
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  love the analogy of of a plant inside because we go inside with UV blocking windows and we're not
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  getting the infrared spectrum that's driving our mitochondria and energy and our vitamin D. And
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  so these little boxes and a plant, if you can get a plant outside, it won't flower unless it's
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  outside. Why? It might live and survive. But if you get it out in the sunshine where it belongs,
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  it can go through its full life cycle. It can it can reproduce. It can create, right? And when
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  you're inside and you're planted inside, you don't get enough of those external inputs to be
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  truly healthy. So getting outside, if there's any messages that you hear, get your butts outside,
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  it's it's and get into nature. It's it's the greatest healer. If someone's watching this and
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  they're overwhelmed, but if they want to change their health in five minutes, what would be the
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  first thing you tell them to do? First thing I tell someone to do if they want to feel better is go
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  outside. Yeah. And going outside exposes us to God's design. So we are actually fractal by design.
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  And so fractal means that we're self similar repeating patterns. So if you look at our lungs,
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  if you look at our blood vessels, if you look at the architecture of our brain, it actually is
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  based on fractal mathematics. Nature is also based on fractal mathematics. You stare at a tree,
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  it's all self similar. You look at the clouds are all self similar. So being in those environments
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  actually immediately relaxes our nervous system. So the fastest way to get into a flow state,
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  the fastest way to put our nervous systems into a calm state is to be immersed in self similar
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  repeating patterns. If you live by the water, go stare at the waves. If you live in the desert,
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  go stare at the sand dunes. If there's clouds in the skies, stare at the clouds. If there's trees
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  or bushes around you, go stare at them for a few minutes and you'll immediately feel this wave
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  of peace wash over you. The next thing you can do while you're doing that is slow down your breath.
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  So most people over breathe. When we over breathe, we drive our sympathetic response. Many people
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  breathe through their mouth and so that activates the sympathetic response in their body. So if we
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  want to feel calm, relaxed, focused, present, surround yourself in nature, slow down your breath,
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  six seconds in, six seconds out and breathe through your nose and you will feel within minutes.
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  Maybe even less, you'll feel peace and tranquility and calm wash over you and you have access
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  to that anytime you want it. So it's actually in less than five minutes, you can change your health.
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  That's beautiful. So here's a question. This is intriguing to me because
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  cyclic sign has been one of a transformative for my health, spirituality,
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  calming down my autonomic nervous system. It's the number one way to improve your mood,
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  decrease anxiety, reset your autonomic nervous system. But cyclic sign is not
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  slow in, slow out and you're an expert at this. I love talking to you and your analogies
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  are beautiful and a lot of the things that I'm applying to my life, you're putting science to it.
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  So it's actually this is a great conversation. I'm really enjoying it. I always do because you
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  go so deep. So cyclic sign, how does that work? The Harvard research, actually it's called
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  Pranayama. This is ancient tech, right? Ancient connection tech, hypothalamus, pituitary,
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  energy, chakras, all the stuff. Harvard has hijacked it and called it cyclic sign.
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  What is your thoughts on that type of breathwork? Do you know much about it if you don't? That's okay,
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  but it's becoming more popular. The thing with breathwork that's really interesting is when you
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  say the eyes are a window into the soul. The breath is a window into the nervous system. So when
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  the state of our nervous system changes, the first thing observation that you can make on somebody
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  is the way their breath changes. So if somebody were to barge into this room right now,
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  the first thing that we would do is gasp. And if we were threatened or if there was a challenging
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  challenge that we had to face and that threat went away, we would breathe a sigh of relief without
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  even realizing it. If somebody says something funny, we're going to laugh. That's breathing,
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  right? Try laughing without breathing. If we're upset, we cry because that regulates our nervous
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  system and it releases, you know, story of motion that we have. So our body and our nervous system
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  really is constantly using our breath to regulate itself and also re-regulate itself. So when we
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  use the breath Prana is life force, Yama is control. So the word Prana Yama comes from the
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  Sanskrit, which means life controls. You can literally control your life and all of the little
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  intricacies of what's going on inside your body through your breath because it is, it's not just
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  breathing in and out. You can do breath holds on the inhale, on the exhale. You can breathe
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  through your left nostril, your right nostril. You can put your tongue in the roof of your mouth
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  and breathe in through your nose and out through your mouth. So there you have, it's really an
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  art and a science. And so there's many different ways to breathe depending on the response that
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  we're looking to elicit. Now the cool thing about breath is that it's the bridge between our
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  sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system. So if somebody is experiencing a stressful, challenging
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  time, we can use their breath to get them into a more parasympathetic state. Or if somebody wants
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  to increase exercise performance, then we can have them breathe in a way that also increases exercise
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  performance and gets them more in a sympathetic state. So there's different breaths that we can use
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  for different situations. And so there isn't just one breath. There are, there's just like there's
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  an app for everything, there's a breath for everything. So if somebody wants to immediately relax
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  their nervous system, we use something called a physiologic side, which is a deep inhale, hold at
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  the top and then an audible exhale, emptying their lungs as fully as they can. And doing that for
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  three to five times, they'll feel an immediate wave of relief and relaxation. If somebody wants more
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  energy, we use something called bellows breath, where rapidly moving their arms up and down and
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  exhaling forcefully and inhaling forcefully 30 times, that gets their heart pumping, that gets
• 24:39
  them into a more sympathetic state. Getting ready for a war. Exactly. So it's probably why they
• 24:44
  chanted before they go out and door. Yeah. So if you think about it, your heart is located just
• 24:50
  above your diaphragm and in between your lungs. So if you were to breathe in rapidly, you're going
• 24:56
  to squeeze your heart intensely. And if you exhale rapidly, your diaphragm is going to be moving
• 25:04
  up and down. So the apparatus of your lungs and respiratory system are also helping regulate and
• 25:10
  pump blood through your body. What also happens when you breathe correctly, the biggest lymph nodes
• 25:15
  in your body are under underneath your diaphragm. And so if I was an intelligent creator, that's
• 25:21
  exactly where I put them, because you take 23,000 breaths every day. So if you're breathing correctly,
• 25:26
  23,000 times a day, your lymphatic system is going to get a nice gentle pump. And remember,
• 25:32
  our trunk organs don't have muscles wrapped around them, right? Like our lymphatic vessels and
• 25:38
  arms and legs do. So our diaphragm acts as a piston that pumps that lymph. So proper breathing
• 25:45
  plays such a huge role in our lymphatic health and our cardiovascular health. But the third thing
• 25:49
  that it does that often gets overlooked is it plays a huge role in our myofascial system.
• 25:54
  So myofascial system is like basically the internal internet of our body. Our myofascial system
• 26:01
  connects every cell nucleus to each other in this web like fashion. So it's like this internal
• 26:08
  plumbing that we have that allows every cell nucleus to communicate with each other in a instantaneous
• 26:15
  fashion. So it's quite remarkable. And it connects all the way from our head all the way to our toes.
• 26:21
  And it's it's the storehouse, the warehouse of our emotional state and emotional experiences that
• 26:26
  we've had. So our fascia when we do breath work with our clients and I'll be doing that some
• 26:33
  of that this weekend when we do breath work with people, when we get them breathing in a rhythmic
• 26:38
  fashion for an extended period of time, it's like we're shaking the tree and they were any any
• 26:45
  week branches are going to fall off. Any ripe fruit is going to fall off. And so what happens is
• 26:51
  it boils all that to the surface and then we release those emotions. So a lot of people have
• 26:57
  emotions buried deep in their myofascial system, which can be causing dysfunction, can be causing pain,
• 27:03
  it can be causing emotional hardship for them. And so breath work can be a way to help them release
• 27:09
  these things. And one thing that that happens to children when they're young and I'm sure I was
• 27:14
  guilty of this at some point with my son is one of the fastest ways to regulate the nervous system
• 27:20
  is through crying. So we always feel better after we cry always. Yeah. But many parents will tell
• 27:25
  their child to stop crying. And the only way to stop crying is to stop breathing, which means that
• 27:31
  when you're trying to get a child to stop breathing, all that energy, that emotion that they're
• 27:35
  trying to release gets buried down. And where does it get buried? It gets buried into the myofascial
• 27:41
  system. And later on it shows up as some sort of dysfunction. And this is why doing things like,
• 27:47
  you know, somatic breath where it can help release these emotions that people have.
• 27:52
  You know, we take 23,000 breaths a day, we consume 30 pounds of air every day, which means we
• 27:57
  eat more air, consume more air in a day than the amount of food that we would eat in a week.
• 28:02
  But very few people pay attention to this. Yeah. You know, we have a microbiome in our mouth,
• 28:07
  we have a microbiome in our sinuses, we have a microbiome in our lungs. So the outside air
• 28:12
  plays a huge role in our overall health. And in fact, our immune system starts in our nose.
• 28:16
  So you can't even talk about like immune health unless you first talk about the state of the way
• 28:22
  we breathe. And especially breathing through our nose. Yeah, this is just incredible stuff, right?
• 28:28
  It's free. It's ancient wisdom. And I think it's been quite honestly suppressed in America
• 28:35
  for whatever reason. Well, I guess for every other reason that you can't really monetize breath
• 28:40
  work, but it's for religious reasons for it not being taught that it wasn't cool, that it was
• 28:49
  like all the reasons, right? It's just not normal. It's becoming normal because of, you know,
• 28:54
  folks like you. But I'm here to say that, you know, this is beautiful and it's life transforming
• 29:00
  and it can make your life so much better. I've sent out, there's a guy named David Elliot.
• 29:06
  I want people heard of him that he teaches pranayama. Okay. You can do extended. You can do short.
• 29:12
  I've sent it to several friends. It's it's saved marriages. It's helped people sleep and
• 29:16
  regulate their nerve. They think it's like some miracle. And I was against it. But I was in
• 29:22
  a, not against it, but I was nervous. Like, oh, you know, just old beliefs, you know, just BS.
• 29:28
  And I was experiencing anxiety for the first time and probably 15 years, maybe 20, you know,
• 29:35
  because when I was sick, I'd have this anxiety where I just couldn't enjoy life. And it was
• 29:40
  happening again. I'm, you know, like what? You know, it's like, I'm non-toxic dad. This shouldn't be
• 29:44
  happening. I mean, I have a great life. And my buddy, and I, because I, he kind of mentioned
• 29:51
  me, we'll do some breath work. And so I go down to the river and I said, hey, because I was fishing,
• 29:56
  I couldn't even enjoy fishing. It's one of the things I just love. And I'm like, let's, let's do
• 30:01
  some breath work. And he's like, all right, let's go. And I did the breath work. I had my arms
• 30:07
  lit on fire. I cried like a baby, like all that facial release depression, anxiety, gone, never
• 30:14
  came back. And that's, that's a fact. I don't know how many times you've probably seen that in
• 30:19
  people, but that energy release was like, and then I got mad. I'm like, what was stopping me? You
• 30:25
  know, I saw Sachin talk about this so many times, but I had this mental block. So if you're hearing
• 30:31
  this and you're having a mental block, like, don't label it. Just do it. You did it as a baby.
• 30:36
  You do it naturally. Just do it intentionally, you know, look up Sachin, look up all David Elliott,
• 30:42
  whoever. And, but that repetitive breathing is the pranayama repetitives. What really
• 30:49
  yeah, opened me up to even to all the things that you're talking about. I'm getting so excited.
• 30:54
  Like, I want to try some of the other things. I poo poo did as well. Because, you know, I was
• 31:00
  introduced to me many years ago from a patient. The idea of pranayama, but I often associated
• 31:05
  it to meditation. And, you know, for anyone who's watching this, it doesn't have to be meditation.
• 31:11
  You're already breathing. But you're not breathing. Most people are not breathing with any awareness.
• 31:16
  So the way I look at breathwork is not just, you know, the 10, 15 minutes that you might do. That's
• 31:22
  like 1% of your day. What I try to focus on with my clients as well is how are you breathing the
• 31:26
  other 99% of the day. When you're checking your emails, how are you breathing? When you're lifting
• 31:32
  weights, how are you breathing? When you're getting ready for bed, how are you breathing, right? So
• 31:36
  breath is an access point to our nervous system. It's a direct access point to our nervous system
• 31:41
  so that we can choose what state we're in. If I want to do something more parasympathetic, like if
• 31:47
  I want to digest my meal, I want to go to bed. I want to, you know, read a book. You know, if I'm
• 31:52
  sitting there reading a book and I'm in a short shallow breathing, it's going to be hard to focus
• 31:57
  and concentrate as I would expect. But if you're not aware of that, then that's going to be a problem.
• 32:03
  So what happens for a lot of people and the reason that this might be the case for some individuals is
• 32:10
  if they suppress their crying or suppress their emotions, they develop trigger points in their
• 32:16
  diaphragm. And these trigger points in the diaphragm, if you just, you know, feel underneath your
• 32:21
  ribcage, you might be able to find some of them for some people. And that leads to the diaphragm
• 32:26
  not moving through its full range of motion. So now their natural breath becomes short and shallow.
• 32:32
  So they steer more towards a sympathetic dominant state. Even if it's slightly dominant,
• 32:37
  it's like your wheel. If your wheel is, if your alignment and your car is off,
• 32:41
  if you feed, it's not going to make a big difference. But if you drive like that for eight hours,
• 32:46
  right, you're going to be in a totally different town. So for a lot of people, they don't have the
• 32:51
  awareness of the way they're breathing. And so by course correcting every breath, you know,
• 32:56
  the 23,000 that we take, every breath is an opportunity to change the trajectory of your life,
• 33:02
  your nervous system, the state that you're in and maximize whatever activity you're trying to do.
• 33:07
  Most people have a dysfunction and a coin deterrent called autonomic pairing.
• 33:13
  So you want to make sure your nervous system is in the state that matches and is paired with
• 33:20
  the activity you're trying to do. So a simple example would be many people eat in a fight or flight
• 33:26
  state. And digestion is a rest and digest activity, right? It's a parasympathetic activity.
• 33:32
  So it's no wonder they have digestive issues because their nervous system is not in the correct
• 33:38
  state. So something as simple as doing some box breathing before they have their meal shifts
• 33:45
  them into the state that's going to optimize their digestive function. And then we get them to
• 33:50
  chew their food, sit down, slow down, right? You don't want to eat until you salivate. That tells us
• 33:56
  that your digestive system is ready and your nervous system is what prepares your digestive system.
• 34:02
  So just simple things like that, just becoming self-aware is so incredibly powerful for people
• 34:09
  and people might be wondering, and I wondered this too, like, how am I going to think of my breath
• 34:14
  all day, right? I've got other things to worry about. But there's something that we think about
• 34:18
  more than anything else every day. It's different for every person. For you, it might be,
• 34:23
  you know, I don't want to make any assumptions, but for you might be your kids, right?
• 34:26
  I mean, you got it. As I was saying, it's connection with my kids is like, I want more connection
• 34:30
  with my kids. So I changed my breath. One of the reasons I do breath work is so I have a better
• 34:35
  connection with my children and my team and the people around me. Like, that is core to me because
• 34:39
  I'm so sick of running with my tire off and just go, go, go, and in that parasympathetic state
• 34:46
  and because I just want to achieve and, you know, the wounds of the father and, you know, all those
• 34:50
  things, you know, trying to get my dad's, you know, approval and like all these, this bad
• 34:56
  hardware or software, you know, that's in my life that's taking my life off course.
• 35:02
  But if you, you can literally reprogram, you know, your life, like you said, just with breathing
• 35:09
  because you can, you can change your state and it's, it's fascinating. Like, box brief,
• 35:14
  I write about this stuff in my book, but I mean, I'm not, by no means an expert. I'm just starting
• 35:19
  to apply this stuff to my life and I'm so excited. Yeah. You know, and so you said, so my kids,
• 35:25
  so let's, let's go back to that. Yeah. And I'll just touch on something you said, the,
• 35:29
  the master is the forever student, right? So an expert and a master is somebody who's just
• 35:35
  constant learning. So you are the expert, right? And you're the expert of your own body
• 35:40
  and your own lived experience. So, you know, some of you might be like, well, how am I going to
• 35:44
  think about breath all day? So there's a framework for behavior change by BJ Fogg. He wrote it
• 35:50
  about in his book called Tiny Habits and BJ Fogg is students invented Instagram, for example.
• 35:55
  So they know a lot of books, emotional behavior change and psychology. And so there's a formula,
• 36:00
  it's called behavior equals MAP. The first thing is motivation. M is motivation. So you have to
• 36:07
  motivate it to change, right? You've been motivated to want to be better, which I hope everyone
• 36:11
  is watching this wants to be the second thing is you have to have the ability, right? So all of us
• 36:16
  have the ability to to change our breath, right? We have conscious control over it. It's our
• 36:21
  diaphragm is the only muscle that works for us 24, seven that we have conscious control over.
• 36:26
  Our heart pumping 24, seven, but you can't control your heart rate. You can indirectly through your
• 36:31
  breath. And the third thing is a prompt. So that's where I invite people to, and I ask them,
• 36:37
  what's the thing you think about the most, right? So if you think about your kids the most every day,
• 36:41
  well, every time you think of your kids, just think of your breath next, right? And then just ask
• 36:45
  yourself, is my breath matching this, this state that I want to be in? So if your breath is short
• 36:51
  and shallow and you want to be in a more relaxed state, well, we can, with our next breath, we can
• 36:58
  lengthen our breath, we can slow down our breath, we can put our tongue at the roof of our mouth,
• 37:02
  read through our nose. So we have 23,000 opportunities in every single day to function better using
• 37:09
  something that we think about all day to anchor us. You triggered something on if this makes any
• 37:15
  sense, but if you could have your last breath, what would it be? Right? What state would you
• 37:20
  want to be in with your last breath? Would you want to be in an anxious state or do you want to
• 37:24
  transform your life by choosing your breath? Because we can choose our breath. Like it doesn't,
• 37:31
  we can't, we can't allow outside influences to choose it all the time. Like if you're scared,
• 37:36
  you have to, but you can literally choose your last breath or you can choose your next breath.
• 37:41
  What is your next breath going to be before you have your last breath? I'm trying to play on
• 37:46
  that analogy, because you're going to live your whole life and you're going to have your last breath,
• 37:51
  but once you're pixelated into the, and your energy has, and so has now left this planet,
• 37:58
  you're not going to be like, oh, I wish I was in a heightened sympathetic state yelling at my
• 38:04
  children, which many dads do, because our nervous system wasn't controlled properly, and you can
• 38:11
  control it with breathing. I'm here to say that my kids want me to go do breath work now. They
• 38:17
  think it's silly, but dad's nicer when he does breath work. Are you going to do breath work today?
• 38:23
  So this is the stuff that I get for my children, and they call it TM the mood. Dad's got TM the
• 38:30
  mood because, no, why? I'm pushing so hard at work. I have so many responsibilities. I'm in this,
• 38:36
  and I work from home, and so they get to notice when I'm in the fighter flight drive, because you can't,
• 38:41
  I can't live in this happy, go lucky state when I'm trying to run my business now. It's good,
• 38:46
  because I like to have some of it. I want to be kind and not, you know, pushing and listening,
• 38:52
  and, you know, especially with our, with our teams, like, but there's a, there's a time that, hey,
• 38:57
  let's get our, let's get moving. Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's win, let's win the game, you
• 39:02
  know, we're at the finish line here, you know, and we're, we're going to run, you know, the full
• 39:07
  back, you know, behind the guard, and we're going to win, you know, but we got to push sometimes,
• 39:11
  you know, so it's interesting, you know, and there's a breath for that too, right? Yeah. So, you
• 39:17
  know, it's, you know, I love what you're saying and sharing and just having the self-awareness,
• 39:22
  I think is really important, and then having a tool, right? Just knowing, okay, something is off,
• 39:27
  but then having a tool to course correct. Yeah, I never had a tool. That's why I'm so excited
• 39:31
  about it, you know, I never had the tool, you know, I've listened to your talks before, but it,
• 39:36
  just like you said, I, it was my children, you know, that, and it was an anxiety that, that triggered
• 39:43
  it, but I think it was all got, like, I think it's still like, I still think there's a, you know,
• 39:48
  creator, and then he cares that much that he puts challenges in your life that, that make you
• 39:53
  course correct. Yeah. Because if, you know, when something's off, like, I don't think, I don't think
• 39:58
  the word universe is working against you, I think it's working for you. I think there's a divine
• 40:04
  flow to things, and you have to flow in that energy, and when you're down here, it hurts, it's
• 40:09
  painful, and it's just so much easier, and breath is one of those ways, I think you can get into
• 40:15
  the right frequency. That makes sense. Yeah, it's a, you know, for clinicians who are watching,
• 40:19
  this is a great way to start your client appointments, to breathe together and sink with one another,
• 40:24
  it's a great way to start your team meetings, to breathe together, and, and get into, you know,
• 40:30
  that parasympathetic state where creativity is unlocked, for example, and problem-solving is
• 40:35
  unlocked, because we all have a lot on our plate. And get your flow state. Yeah, absolutely. And,
• 40:40
  so we, you know, we all have a lot on our plate, we all have a lot of things going on, there's a lot
• 40:45
  of moving parts in our lives, entrepreneurs traveling, you know, even doing things like this,
• 40:50
  you know, there's, there's so much on our plate, and I feel like having something they can anchor
• 40:54
  us and bring us back to our, you know, our stillness is super important, right? In the past, I might
• 41:01
  have done that with supplements, you know, breath is the, the literally the fastest adaptogen.
• 41:06
  Oh, it's, right? There's nothing that works faster than your breath to change your physical,
• 41:13
  emotional, and chemical state. And you see that in people, right? Just like, again, if, if some,
• 41:19
  if somebody were to break into this room, immediately our breath would change.
• 41:23
  Soon as this interview's over, we're going to breathe a sigh of relief. Yeah, we won't.
• 41:27
  Yeah. So our body's always communicating, and what I encourage dads and, and, you know, moms and
• 41:34
  anyone who's watching this, even if you're not a parent, is pay attention to how somebody is
• 41:39
  breathing in your presence. So it's, it's great for relationship management as well. So if I'm
• 41:46
  having, want to have a conversation with my wife, and I bring up the topic, I pay attention,
• 41:51
  not to the words that she says, but I pay attention to the way her breath changes.
• 41:55
  And from the way her breath changes, I can tell if she wants to have this conversation or not.
• 41:59
  If it's a good time to have this conversation or not. And so it's really fascinating to have that
• 42:06
  observation, because I think it enhances relationships as well. Now you can read people by
• 42:11
  how they breathe. Right. Exactly. But you can know if they're lying, you can know if they're
• 42:14
  frustrated, you know, if you're going to, you know, get punched in the face, you know, it's like,
• 42:20
  but does it help with sex? Sachin. Breathe. Because breath helps with the, have better sex. You
• 42:25
  have to go over there, right? Yeah. Uh, it's certainly kind of, right? So, you know, there's
• 42:29
  tantra, right, which, which teaches us how to control our breath and, and our body. And there is,
• 42:36
  uh, you know, we want to, you know, many people will have premature ejaculation or, you know,
• 42:42
  sexual dysfunction if they're in a sympathetic dominant state. So by using breath control,
• 42:47
  slowing down our breath, we can actually enhance our sexual performance. And then, you know,
• 42:52
  another thing that's important to note is that Viagra, for example, is a nitric oxide recycling,
• 42:59
  you know, medication, um, originally it was developed to help people with blood pressure.
• 43:04
  And one of the things they discovered is that one of the nice side effects was that it increased
• 43:09
  micro circulation because of dilated blood vessels. And that actually happens when we breathe
• 43:14
  correctly as well. So one thing that a mistake that people make unknowingly is they tend to be
• 43:19
  habitual mouth breathers, about 50% of people are habitual mouth breathers during the day, 66% of
• 43:24
  people at night. And so if people are breathing through their mouth, they're destroying the
• 43:29
  beneficial bacteria on their tongue that actually helps them make nitric oxide. And so that can also
• 43:35
  impact sexual function, cause erectile disorders and things like that too. So there's, I mean,
• 43:40
  if that didn't get anybody's attention, you know, then it will. So you can, you know,
• 43:45
  it's the, it's the, what would they, you say the purple pill or the
• 43:49
  pills that I don't know blue pill, the blue pill. Yes, I don't even know. Like, I don't even know,
• 43:54
  I guess never even crossed my path. I mean, there's people out there parting and taking blue pills
• 43:58
  and all they need to do is do some breath work and they could have all the same amount of fun.
• 44:02
  Yeah, you can, there's actually you can take nitric oxide support products that can be helpful.
• 44:06
  There's a company called N101 by Nathan Bryan and they actually made cardio paste, cardio toothpaste.
• 44:12
  Mm-hmm. So a special type of toothpaste is formulated to increase nitric oxide production
• 44:17
  by affecting the microbiome. Right. Exactly. And that's why using mouthwash, it trashes your
• 44:22
  microbiome. Yep. It trashes your body's ability to make nitric oxide, which also affects your heart
• 44:27
  and your sexual performance. So this is cognitive. And cognitive, yeah, because of oxygen. So
• 44:34
  that was a deep dive. You know, we went on breath work. I didn't think we're going to go that far,
• 44:39
  but that's, that's beautiful. So here's an interesting question. So when you're doing breath work and
• 44:46
  there's these chakras and energies and you're feeling, you're feeling energy, what is that?
• 44:51
  Because I mean, I've seen people like you could feel the energy coming out of them when they're
• 44:56
  in this, when they're doing breath work. And I just do have any of the science behind that. Like
• 45:02
  this is just curious for me. I know you're just going to be in the podcast. I just, you know,
• 45:05
  it'd be interesting to do like curly and photography on people and see if there's doing breath work.
• 45:11
  I'm actually one of my friends him and I are partnering on a few breath work projects together.
• 45:16
  One of the things we want to do is we actually want to do brain scans of somebody pre and post
• 45:21
  breath work to see what's happening in their brain. Breath work does shut off the default
• 45:26
  mode network, which is a part of our brain that ruminates. Yes. And repeats over and over again.
• 45:31
  This is why most people, they show this is, this spends us as live the same life over and over again.
• 45:36
  So breath work does give us an opportunity to write a new story for ourselves. And then you're
• 45:40
  moving a lot of energy, right? You're, you know, you're changing the chemistry of your body because
• 45:46
  of the amount of CO2 and oxygen, the ratios are changing significantly when you're doing this
• 45:52
  breath work. And you're really, like I said earlier, you're really shaking that my myofascial web.
• 45:59
  So there's a lot of energy that's moving through us when we're doing breath work. And I don't know
• 46:04
  exactly what all of that is, right? And I think like that's part of the mystery and the
• 46:09
  mysticism of this work. And I'm sure there were the next few years. We'll have the instruments
• 46:14
  and the tools to measure it to, you know, not to validate it because it's already happening
• 46:19
  to understand it. This isn't, this isn't new. You know, we're just waking up to it here in America.
• 46:25
  Yeah, exactly. And people's experiences are different too. Some people feel really hot,
• 46:32
  some people feel really cold, some people feel light, some people feel heavy, some people feel
• 46:36
  emotional, some people don't experience anything, right? That's not right or wrong either.
• 46:42
  They were just like, yeah, I'm relaxed. Yeah. Me, I'm like, you know, depends on where I'm at
• 46:48
  and what I'm pushing for. But I'm going to go back to one thing. What I believe breath work also
• 46:53
  does is it connects you to nature, right? And, you know, there's, there's science on this stuff too,
• 46:59
  but you're hearing the frequency of a bird. You're now tuned into the rustling of leaves and
• 47:05
  these frequencies of the earth, the sounds of the planet, the, the squirrel running, you know,
• 47:11
  through the grass. And it becomes beautiful because I've noticed that in breath work out
• 47:16
  all of a sudden, I'll hear the bird or the humming, hummingbirds come around me a lot when I'm
• 47:20
  doing breath work outside and the flap or their wings. And it's like, it's invigorating and it just
• 47:26
  sometimes it just makes me cry because there's these frequencies that I didn't even know because
• 47:31
  I'm in this sympathetic state. And you don't hear any of that. You fly right by it. And it gives you
• 47:38
  an opportunity to hear nature. And I always, I just found that fascinating. Yeah, no, it's, it's
• 47:44
  just experiential for me. Yeah. It's, you know, when you're, when you're in certain states,
• 47:49
  you're ready to receive, right? When we're in fight or flight, we're not there to receive.
• 47:55
  Whether it's advice or guidance or beautiful sounds or beautiful visuals because we're focused
• 48:00
  on, you know, getting the task done. But when we're in that more parasympathetic state, we're
• 48:08
  more aware of our surroundings, we can be in a state of receivership, which I think is,
• 48:14
  is really valuable. And I'm grateful that you get to experience that on a regular basis.
• 48:19
  Yeah, I didn't, you know, this is, this is new-ish for me, you know, so it's really cool to have
• 48:23
  this conversation, you know, because I know I've talked to you about breathwork in the past,
• 48:26
  but I'm like, yeah, I don't know. So, you know, I'm becoming a, you know, a student of it,
• 48:32
  you know, like, based on, yeah, so it's fun. You know, the, the two most powerful experiences
• 48:36
  I've had in my life had to do with breathwork. The first one was my son's first breath.
• 48:42
  And just being there for that was just amazing. And just to see how celebrated that first breath
• 48:47
  is for me. And the other experience that has really powerful was witnessing my grandmother's
• 48:53
  final breath. And for her to be surrounded by her whole family and for all of us to be there
• 48:58
  and to witness that was quite magical. And it just kind of brings brings up something for me,
• 49:04
  whereas we celebrate these, these two milestones, right, these bookends of life, so to speak.
• 49:11
  But there is very little awareness of how to breathe in between. Now, in India, for example,
• 49:17
  Pranayama is part of the curriculum. So the students in school do yoga, Pranayama,
• 49:23
  it's all part of the curriculum there. Whereas here, it's extracurricular, it's,
• 49:28
  it's external to our core routines, practice of yoga and Pranayama changes, you know, their brain
• 49:37
  in a really powerful way, changes their self-awareness in a really powerful way. And I think we need more
• 49:43
  of that. We need more of it now than ever. And that's why I lean into it because I just want my heart
• 49:48
  better. I want it more open. I want it more connected. I'm 50 years old. That's why I think
• 49:53
  I'm so excited about breathwork because I'm more connected. I'm more loving. I'm more kind.
• 49:58
  I'm a better parent. And I have so far to go. So that's why I want to learn more about it,
• 50:02
  you know, because the more you know, the more, you know, you need more help.
• 50:09
  You know, and this has been one of the most powerful tools to make me a better human.
• 50:13
  And I just, I want us all to be better humans, you know, at the end of the day, because being a
• 50:19
  being a bad human is not necessarily your fault, right? Because you weren't given the tools
• 50:24
  to release some of the traumas and things in your past. So I don't really have judgment towards
• 50:29
  that. But if stuff like this, people listen to this podcast and just do Pranayama, you know,
• 50:34
  it's like, oh, it's, I've had so many Christian, you know, people do it that, you know, we're afraid
• 50:40
  of it. And they're like, that was the most powerful thing I ever did. Thank you so much. It changed
• 50:43
  my life. It healed my marriage. Like we were going to get divorced. Then, you know, like these
• 50:47
  stories. And I've only shared it with, you know, a handful of people and to have a tool like this
• 50:52
  and to take it away from America specifically because it's, it's Eastern stuff. We don't
• 50:59
  touch Eastern stuff. We're Americans. We're from America. You know, we, we have medicine, you know,
• 51:04
  where is that getting us? You know, where is medicine? Get it? We're like, what, the, the sixth,
• 51:10
  what's the sickest country in the world or even worse third? I don't know. It's up there. We're
• 51:15
  the top five. I think we're in the top five sickest countries in the world. You know, we're the
• 51:19
  most powerful, richest nation in the world, at least for now. And what does that mean? Yeah,
• 51:25
  what does that mean? Yeah, that's what I mean. In health as well. Yeah. Are we, are we really the
• 51:29
  richest? I think for me, for me, and this is because we're in sympathetic. Yeah, I mean, and this
• 51:35
  might be a little more esoteric, but everything you see around you is just an illusion, right? And
• 51:40
  in Sanskrit, the word is Maya. Nothing is real. In fact, you know, if you think about it, if I
• 51:47
  came here and I drove by all these beautiful plants and trees and everything and I'm going to
• 51:51
  go back and they're going to be a little bit different, right? So everything is constantly changing.
• 51:56
  The only thing that's real is a thing that never changes, which is the essence of who you are,
• 52:00
  your soul. And so that's what we should be chasing, right? It's to really discover who we are.
• 52:05
  That's where all the riches are, right? Not in material things, right? They can be immediately
• 52:10
  devalued by some sort of external force, right? So the real richness is not just in health, but in
• 52:19
  the self-awareness that we can acquire through breath work, through good nutrition, through family,
• 52:25
  you know, in community and all the things that, you know, that are available to us that seem to
• 52:30
  missing these days. Yeah. So to, like, almost to wrap this up, because I know you have to go, but
• 52:37
  I think the lies and there's music about this and I listen to a song that says this, but we have,
• 52:41
  like, we want bigger houses, we want faster cars, we want, you know, more money, a better job,
• 52:47
  like all these things, but there truly are lies taking us away from the very essence of what
• 52:54
  we should be. And our souls and love and that, that is really what it's almost like,
• 53:04
  how do I say this, but it's almost, it's like almost like a fake dopamine spike, you know,
• 53:10
  that you hit the riches, the house faster things, bigger diamond rings and earrings and looking
• 53:17
  a certain way and where they run in this frequency, but it's really a lie. The real essence of who we
• 53:26
  are comes from within and when you find that, the joy, the dopamine spike, if you will, is so much
• 53:33
  better and cleaner and easier and you don't, and you don't have to pay for it, you don't have to
• 53:37
  earn it. It's right there in front of you. And it's, it's like you're saying it's esoteric,
• 53:43
  because unless you experience it, you don't understand it's like, what do you mean? It's like,
• 53:46
  I can't pay my bills. It's not money. And also, but you can see a lot of societies that don't have
• 53:51
  any money that had far more joy than that I have, you know, and living like a plant in a box with
• 53:58
  no sunshine. You know, the happiest thing I've ever been is when I go camping and I go completely
• 54:05
  off-grid for, you know, five to seven days and I don't have running water. I don't have any
• 54:11
  electricity. I don't have cell phone service. And I don't need, you know, a big house, nice car. I mean,
• 54:18
  I love, you know, don't get me wrong. It's nice to have those things, but not at the expense of the
• 54:23
  things that really matter. And if people want to know who they really are, who they really are is,
• 54:31
  and again, this, this, you got to have to unpack this, but who you really are is all the things you
• 54:39
  can't take with you when you leave this planet. And that's who you really are. So you have to
• 54:42
  let that sink in. I know what you're saying, but it's hard to understand. It is. It's hard,
• 54:48
  right? And if you can discover that while we're alive, because you'll discover that eventually,
• 54:54
  right, that all this stuff that I have isn't who I am, right? But if you can discover that while
• 55:00
  you're alive, then you have a second life that you can live or a third life or a fourth life
• 55:05
  that you can live and you can literally be reborn in this moment, realizing that.
• 55:09
  Yeah. And I have to say that such and this is such a great conversation because when I turned 50,
• 55:15
  I really pursued that and have a midlife crisis. I had, man, I'm, I am going to burn the bridge of
• 55:21
  that belief system and then follow one that centered on God and in connection and finding out who
• 55:27
  I really am and, and quite possibly what, how I could be used. And that's how Nontoxic Dat is born.
• 55:33
  That's why I'm doing this podcast. So a lot of the things that you're seeing me do, because,
• 55:37
  you know, you've watched me like I was kind of behind the scenes guy and now I'm, why am I doing all
• 55:41
  this for one reason? So more of these conversations can happen so that people can find out who they
• 55:46
  really are and to realize none of that really is that all that fulfilling. Yes, it's nice.
• 55:52
  But if it was all taken away from you right now, like how would you feel? Would you feel connected
• 55:56
  and safe and, and, and good about who you are? And I can absolutely say that I would. So I have a
• 56:02
  nice car. Take it. Yeah, frickin' take it. Because it doesn't give me any more joy. It's another
• 56:09
  thing I have to take care of. He's going to get scratched. It's going to cost money to get fixed.
• 56:15
  It steals from me. If, but if I'm strong enough to have the resilience to add that stress to my
• 56:21
  life, then that's when I can afford it. It's not about the money. It's about the stress that it
• 56:27
  puts on you when you have more crap, right? Because you got to get cost more people. You got to have
• 56:32
  higher more people. Whatever it may be, have a bigger business. It caused, it doesn't, the bigger
• 56:37
  doesn't make better. It adds complication. And you, you have to become more resilient. You have to
• 56:43
  become a much more effective, efficient. It forces you to change rapidly. And that's all good.
• 56:51
  But the ease of it all is if, if it all went away, would you be happy in your own skin? Would you
• 56:57
  still have joy? Would you still have peace? You know? So as long as I had food in my family,
• 57:02
  and this is why I say like to all the people listening that have lost someone close to them. And
• 57:09
  their son or their daughter, their husband or their wife or whatever, and they still have found joy,
• 57:13
  they understand it. Because they lost the very thing that they live for, but they still able to
• 57:19
  find that joy within themselves to find out who they really are through a tragic loss.
• 57:24
  So if you can use breath work to get there, to change your state, to get connected to God, to get
• 57:30
  connected to nature, to get connected with yourself so that you can be your own doctor, to be open
• 57:36
  to conversations like this, to not judge and be in that sympathetic state of wanting to be right
• 57:42
  and to, but to be like, you know, I'm good. Like you can believe what you believe, because I'm good
• 57:46
  with, with my soul, you know, always well with my soul. So no matter what you believe and I believe,
• 57:53
  I'm still happy. I'm still at peace. I'm still at rest. I'm still connected. I know that, I know
• 57:59
  that God loves me, you know, and that's really all I need to know, right? But it's so esoteric,
• 58:04
  because unless you experience it, but if it, if you want that, right, it's available to you,
• 58:11
  right? It just, just get rid of the crap, get outside, put your feet on the ground, get connected
• 58:18
  to nature, start breathing, and see what you might feel, see what you might experience, and it very
• 58:25
  well could change your life, because it did change mine. Well said, yeah, well said, you know, it's great
• 58:31
  to have nice things as long as they don't own you. Right, right? It's the love of money, you know,
• 58:37
  and, you know, as long as you don't identify as those things, or you can't take them with you,
• 58:42
  you weren't born with them, you can't take them with you so that they're not you. They're not even
• 58:47
  extensions. If you're just things that you've accumulated along along the way, living this amazing
• 58:53
  life, and you know, there's nothing simpler and easier and more accessible in our breath, and I
• 59:01
  know we've we've talked about it quite a bit, because it's such an important thing that is so easy
• 59:08
  to overlook, and the things that are easy to do are also easy not to do. And so, you know, don't
• 59:15
  be like me, take it for granted, until you're, you know, I'm 48, 47 now, so don't take it for granted,
• 59:21
  um, with like I did for the first 42 years of my life, not knowing how to access this.
• 59:29
  And so you're still excited about it too. It's only been like five years. Oh yeah, of course.
• 59:33
  Yeah, I'm embarrassed that I didn't know about it. I mean, too, I'm frustrated, but I'm
• 59:36
  grateful that I know it now, and I love teaching it and taking people through experiences and,
• 59:42
  you know, helping people, I mean, that's like such a powerful medicine, you know, they're
• 59:46
  a really simple analogy. I tell people is like the value of something to your health is determined
• 59:51
  by how long you can't live without it. Mm-hmm. So you cannot drink water for a week.
• 59:58
  You cannot eat for a month, maybe even longer, depending on
• 1:00:03
  somebody's body composition, but you can't not breathe for more than a few minutes.
• 1:00:08
  So that should just tell you immediately how valuable it is to your health. And so,
• 1:00:13
  if we just use that as a hierarchy, right, how long do I live if this is not in my life anymore,
• 1:00:21
  that should tell us how important it is. Yeah, to optimize it, put some, put some thought into it,
• 1:00:26
  you know, be open to changing it, because I think all of us listen to this, no, like you're
• 1:00:33
  you're likely most of you. I'd say 60% are really shallow short breathers going through life,
• 1:00:39
  snapping at people around you, you're not happy. And here's a tool you're hearing it right now that
• 1:00:44
  can literally absolutely 100% change it. Scientifically proven without a doubt, even like I said,
• 1:00:51
  Harvard is doing studies on this stuff and it's ancient tech. This isn't Harvard figuring it out.
• 1:00:57
  Yeah. It isn't Western medicine. Like this is old school stuff and we're wrapping it in,
• 1:01:03
  you know, American language, but it works. It's called cyclic sign that was the Pranayama one, but
• 1:01:09
  we call it box breathing. And there's like, but all of this stuff has been taught and used for
• 1:01:14
  thousands of years, if not longer. And in America, we just, we just don't do it. We're getting there.
• 1:01:22
  But yeah, it's stuck at you. So you've been doing breath work. You're all positive, but
• 1:01:26
  there is a movement happening and people's lives are being changed. People like you, you know,
• 1:01:31
  are getting converted over to the simplicity of that. And it's not a viral topic. It's not
• 1:01:37
  something that there's not people teaching breath work programs that are, you know, killing it
• 1:01:43
  online. I mean, I guess there is some, but you know what I'm saying? It's not this cool viral topic,
• 1:01:49
  but I think it is timely. I think this message was supposed to be I'm shared today. I'm glad we
• 1:01:54
  deep-dived on that. A lot of other questions for you, but because you know a lot about a lot of
• 1:02:00
  different things, but it's really cool. I don't think I've ever had, you know, this conversation,
• 1:02:08
  you know, with anyone and haven't learned so much. I'm grateful for the opportunity. Yeah. And
• 1:02:12
  been more excited about learning more, you know. And so I look forward to this weekend. I know
• 1:02:17
  you're teaching on it. I will participate in whatever you're doing. Are you going to, can we do
• 1:02:22
  like a morning breath work section? Are you going to do anything like that? We are. Yeah, on Sunday.
• 1:02:27
  I will be there. Okay. So the bell's on. Yeah. So it's been an honor and privilege to have you
• 1:02:32
  on the show. Thank you. Let's let's live more amazing lives. So if there's one toxin that you would
• 1:02:39
  remove from this world, what would it be? To end this beautiful conversation. Yeah. So I like,
• 1:02:48
  I like playing with words. So the word talk sick. Mm-hmm. I break it down into talk and sick.
• 1:02:56
  So I would get rid of people who talk sick. Mm-hmm. So T-A-L-K, right? So one of the things
• 1:03:03
  I would encourage people to do is go through their Facebook feed or their social media feed.
• 1:03:08
  And anytime they see something that triggers them, just press the X. You don't have to unfriend people.
• 1:03:13
  You can unfollow them. You can snooze their posts and you don't have to see them. And then don't
• 1:03:18
  talk sick to yourself, right? Your, your, your cells are listening to the conversations you're having.
• 1:03:24
  And, you know, we have about, you know, depending on the research you read anywhere from 40 to
• 1:03:30
  70,000 thoughts a day. And so those are conversations we're having with ourselves. We take 23,000 breaths
• 1:03:36
  or, you know, heartbeats 100,000 times a day. So we're, you know, there's, there's an opportunity in
• 1:03:44
  every breath and every heartbeat and every thought for us to get rid of negativity and, and remove
• 1:03:52
  that from our lives. So don't talk sick to yourself. I love it. You know, and this is all,
• 1:03:58
  again, this is all science-based, you know, we do affect our celebrology with our words. It can
• 1:04:03
  literally transform your life like breathing. And, and even throughout this conversation,
• 1:04:08
  I notice four times you helped steer me away from slightly negative language patterns.
• 1:04:14
  And don't think I don't notice. I don't take up on your tricks. But I love being surrounded
• 1:04:22
  by people who want up level, you know, who I am as a person and to help, um, remind me of these
• 1:04:30
  things that I know to be true. And, you know, but if you can create these habits, like you said,
• 1:04:35
  and help other people, um, slowly change their life through their breath, through how they're
• 1:04:39
  speaking to themselves, um, understanding how that they are their own doctor and their body can
• 1:04:45
  heal. And there's this innate healing divine fractal, you know, uh, being that we are. And, uh,
• 1:04:53
  we're connected to nature. Um, this has been a beautiful conversation. And I think a lot of hope
• 1:04:57
  and healing is going to come from it. So thanks again. My pleasure. Thank you. All right,
• 1:05:00
  having on again.