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Acuña's brakes, Framber's quotes, Tigers say BYE Bregman, D'Backs sign Graveman, Rendon quitting? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: If you're too quick on things, it's going to hurt
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  Speaker 1: you in the long run. It might not hurt you
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  Speaker 1: in the beginning, but those last forty fifty games, all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden your body' is like, oh boy, I
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  Speaker 1: can't keep.
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  Speaker 2: Up Valan dizzle. I feel like that's what top bothers like,
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  Speaker 2: happy Valance.
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  Speaker 3: Push shizzle.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you know what I should do? I should put
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  Speaker 2: my reactions on and see if I can do this.
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  Speaker 2: I was working on this last night with my girl
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  Speaker 2: for a while. Yeah, you guys ever done this on
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  Speaker 2: the screen where then the hearts come out?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how to do.
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  Speaker 4: I can honestly say, I don't know that I've ever
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  Speaker 4: done in my life, But now I have a.
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  Speaker 2: Course fun for a while. Apparently gen Z does hearts
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  Speaker 2: differently too. I learned that last night. They do them
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  Speaker 2: like this or something.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Whould you say, doesn't differently?
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  Speaker 4: Jen jenen d Yeah you went to Toms River West.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, gen Z, Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Anyway. I
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  Speaker 2: got you guys some cards for Valentine's Day. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to read them out for the crowd that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: get to look. And you should definitely looks you want
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  Speaker 2: to read your card and describe it.
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  Speaker 4: Only you get me this excited, and it's a picture
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  Speaker 4: of me at photo day. He always telling me to smile,
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  Speaker 4: and I was probably.
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  Speaker 1: Just yeah, you need to smile more, bud he.
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  Speaker 3: Todd.
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  Speaker 2: If you saw that, you never knew crats and you
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  Speaker 2: played against him your whole career, you'd be like, this
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  Speaker 2: dude is a stone cold killer, old killer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, And then you saw him swing a bat
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, never mind, we're good.
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  Speaker 4: Never mind, newspaper. Actually, you probably look at my career
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  Speaker 4: with that picture and you're like, this guy hates his
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  Speaker 4: entire life, No way, he likes baseball.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, there's a good one. There's a good one.
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  Speaker 2: Read it and describe it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't I don't have a problem with you.
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  Speaker 1: Well that that's really really heartfelt.
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  Speaker 3: That one there, that's really nice.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it says in me smiling, I really don't
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  Speaker 1: have a problem with you. And probably if I give
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  Speaker 1: you a card like that, it means the exact opposite.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm just trying to.
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  Speaker 2: Be oh no, oh oh wow. Well, on the Day
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  Speaker 2: of Love. There are a lot of themes here we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna charge the mound to shout out one of our
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  Speaker 2: favorite players. I mean, does it get any sweeter than
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  Speaker 2: this my fake favorite player, although I do love him,
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  Speaker 2: but he was given to me as my favorite player
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  Speaker 2: without my consent. Kendall Graveman signs with the Arizona Diamondbacks
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  Speaker 2: one year, one point three to five million. That can
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  Speaker 2: get up to three point three million dollars with performance bonuses.
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  Speaker 3: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: What do you or does AJ do this to me
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  Speaker 2: where they're like, Graveman's your favorite player?
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  Speaker 4: It was a utah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't I don't remember that A yeah, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think it was when it was AJ. When when we
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  Speaker 4: had him on, he was good. When we had him on,
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  Speaker 4: he was awesome. It was great.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember the essence of it. Yeah he did.
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  Speaker 2: He had a shoulder injury. He's fully recovered. Arizona ads
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  Speaker 2: another piece to their bullpen. Diamondbacks are good. This helps
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  Speaker 2: Graven was a good reliever for several years.
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  Speaker 3: Guys.
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  Speaker 2: So he comes back and does his thing. This is great.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they just lost Seawalled, who had an up
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  Speaker 2: and down twenty twenty four. But you just start to
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  Speaker 2: do these little depth fills the reliever market was weird
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  Speaker 2: this year, Kratz. Sometimes it's this burst and the price
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  Speaker 2: is set and then everything just hits. I remember covering
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  Speaker 2: the Winter Meetings was probably years ago at this point
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  Speaker 2: where it was like one price came in and then
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  Speaker 2: half the free agent relievers signed in a eight hours span.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know people signed during Winter Meetings. That's weird, Scott.
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  Speaker 4: You're showing your age.
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  Speaker 2: By saying welcome by Winter Meetings in February twelfth. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: February twelfth is Winter Meetings. Every year we have a
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  Speaker 2: virtual Winter Meetings where we chat on this show about
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  Speaker 2: people that we like and things we want to change
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  Speaker 2: in baseball, and that's when guys like Bregman and Paveta
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  Speaker 2: and every reliever sign.
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  Speaker 4: The Winter Thall Meetings.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 4: I like this. I like this. This is a This
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  Speaker 4: is an opportunity if you're coming back from an injury. Obviously,
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  Speaker 4: any big league deal you can get is great. If
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  Speaker 4: you're a team, the upside is huge here. Yes, you understand,
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  Speaker 4: this guy isn't going to give you seventy outings. Kel
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  Speaker 4: Graveman's one of his best traits is the dude just
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  Speaker 4: goes out there competes. He's played on winning teams, but
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  Speaker 4: at essentially one point, would you say one point three
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  Speaker 4: to five or one point six five with escalators, Well,
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  Speaker 4: the escalators hit, that means he's doing awesome. And some
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  Speaker 4: teams have pitching coaches bullpen coaches that are able to
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  Speaker 4: get guys like this in a situation to succeed. We
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  Speaker 4: just had Tory Leavello on. He's another He's a manager
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  Speaker 4: that does a great job of communicating with the player
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  Speaker 4: and letting him know what is best for the team,
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  Speaker 4: but also finding out what the player needs. Kenill Grave
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  Speaker 4: is a veteran. When he's coming back from this injury,
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  Speaker 4: you need to be you need to land in an
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  Speaker 4: ice soft spot, and this is a great This is
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  Speaker 4: a great pickup for both big league deal for a
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  Speaker 4: dude coming off a shoulder injury and the Diamondbacks just
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  Speaker 4: adding more depth. You never know what you're gonna get
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  Speaker 4: from him.
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  Speaker 2: from fangrafts here for the Diamondbacks. Justin Martinez, who is fire,
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  Speaker 2: stretches from Ajpuff Kevin Ginkleberry, solid Ryan Thoms and pretty
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  Speaker 2: solid Kendall Graveman. We just talked about Joe mantiply, Seth Martinez,
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  Speaker 2: and Jordan Montgomery is in there for now. We'll see
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  Speaker 2: how that shakes out in spring training. I also want
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  Speaker 2: not in a particular city, Todd Father, but just anywhere
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  Speaker 2: that Josh Hater is because when he went down with
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  Speaker 2: that shoulder surgery last year, Hater signed five minutes later
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  Speaker 2: with the Astros.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's crazy how that goes a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of I don't want to say luck because I don't
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  Speaker 1: wish out upon anybody, you know, hurting themselves. That's the
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  Speaker 1: worst thing you can do. But yes, that is basically
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  Speaker 1: what happened. And you know, when you think about the Diamondbacks,
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  Speaker 1: you think about bullpen, and they do they have a
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  Speaker 1: solid bullpen.
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  Speaker 3: With these guys.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know what Montgomery is going to do, as
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  Speaker 1: you talked about, but you get past six innings or
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  Speaker 1: even five innings if you're a starter, those guys are
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  Speaker 1: pretty much lockdown pitchers. So and it didn't matter if
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  Speaker 1: a lefty right he was pitching they have a guy
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  Speaker 1: for every batter, So.
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  Speaker 3: You know it's just a.
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  Speaker 1: Matter of putting everything together. Everybody's staying healthy and do
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  Speaker 1: what they do two years ago.
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  Speaker 3: You know there's some guys right there. Alec Thomas.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see him, you know, get after
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  Speaker 1: it again this year and you know, solidify his worth
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  Speaker 1: out there. He's an outstanding player, and you know some
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  Speaker 1: other guys that have been there before to go out
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  Speaker 1: there and dominate. It's time to step up. If you're
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  Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks, you're known for a really good team. Last
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  Speaker 1: year he took a little setback. Just finish what you
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  Speaker 1: started and you never know what can happen to me.
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  Speaker 4: I love Justin Martinez his arm I love it. The
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  Speaker 4: walks are a little high for me. But when you're
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  Speaker 4: almost punching out one hundred dudes in seventy some innings,
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  Speaker 4: like the potentials there and you and you get more
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  Speaker 4: veterans around those guys. But to me, Ginkle's like that
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  Speaker 4: solid piece in that in that bullpen. He rarely has
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  Speaker 4: big ebbs and flows in his season. He has a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of veteran presence. But what Puck did when
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  Speaker 4: he came over, He's been bounced around his whole career
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  Speaker 4: with the Marlins. It's like, you are you know you're
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  Speaker 4: gonna be one of our best starting pitchers. Never Mind
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  Speaker 4: it didn't work out. Again, we're putting you in a
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  Speaker 4: pen back next year starting pitcher. He had like a
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  Speaker 4: one to three I think when he came over to
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  Speaker 4: the Diamondbacks last year. So if they can keep unlocking
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  Speaker 4: value out of guys, to me, that's where Strom comes
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  Speaker 4: in there. Brent Strom, their pitching coach, comes in and
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  Speaker 4: just allows guys to be who they are in a
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  Speaker 4: space to succeed. And I love I love this ad
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  Speaker 4: for them because of what that gives the other guys
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  Speaker 4: in the pen.
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  Speaker 2: I'll read one fan comment here as we're talking, I
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  Speaker 2: need money. He's a regular. He's very smart. Said Arizona
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  Speaker 2: bullpen is not much different than last season. The bullpen's
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  Speaker 2: the reason the team is the playoffs. Not sure if
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  Speaker 2: you can really buy into it. That's a fair statement.
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  Speaker 2: It's a fair statement. The offense certainly wasn't the reason
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  Speaker 2: why they missed the playoffs. They had the top run
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  Speaker 2: scoring offense in baseball. I could also make a case
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  Speaker 2: for some underperformance with the starting staff of course Montgomery
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  Speaker 2: was the poster boy for that, but it wasn't the
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  Speaker 2: most glorious season for a staff that on paper obviously
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  Speaker 2: really really damn good with Corbyn Burns. But it's a
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  Speaker 2: fair statement, Kratz.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it is.
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  Speaker 2: I think a full season of Justin Martinez and maybe
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  Speaker 2: just shove him right in that closure role. Give him
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  Speaker 2: the whole song and dance out of the gates and
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  Speaker 2: you know, give him the pomp and circumstance and he's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a stud. And I don't know. For me,
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  Speaker 2: it looks like it should be at least about an
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  Speaker 2: average Bullpen based on arm talent. But you tell me.
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  Speaker 4: My opinion is they faded towards the end. The reason
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  Speaker 4: they faded towards the end is because Gollen was on
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  Speaker 4: the ile or you used to getting get it. He's
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  Speaker 4: their workhorse. Last year he was on the il Merrill
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  Speaker 4: spent time on the il. That's innings that somebody has
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  Speaker 4: to pick up. When do we see Bullpen's falter. It's
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the year. They start getting tired,
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  Speaker 4: the walks start going up, and when you get behind
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  Speaker 4: an account, you start giving up, You start giving up leads,
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  Speaker 4: and it was just like it was a rotating carousel
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  Speaker 4: for these guys of just constantly coming in in the
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  Speaker 4: fifth inning. Now the fifth inning guy comes in. Now
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  Speaker 4: your eighth inning guy's getting stretched for an inning and
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  Speaker 4: a third. There was a lot of there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of brain on that bullpen, and people be like, well,
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  Speaker 4: it didn't happen to Cleveland. Yeah, but Cleveland's bullpen was
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  Speaker 4: historic to me. If you now add another ace, another
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  Speaker 4: workhorse to what Zach Allen's going to do this year
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  Speaker 4: because he's a free agent, you sit there and you go,
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  Speaker 4: if you get a seven, if you get seven innings,
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  Speaker 4: you can almost pencil in seven innings from Burns and Gallon.
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  Speaker 4: That that just extends the season of these relievers. It
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  Speaker 4: extends what they can do longer into the season. Keep
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  Speaker 4: some fresh, get some get some those days off that
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  Speaker 4: they need because they have those guys. Merril's never gonna
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  Speaker 4: really be that big innings eater guy Nelson's gonna give
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  Speaker 4: you his five. But if you just sit there and
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  Speaker 4: you say, ah, you know, I don't have you know what,
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  Speaker 4: where's EDWARDO Roriguez? He was how many stars did he
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  Speaker 4: have last year? Ten?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one relying on as much. But I do
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  Speaker 2: love your point because we got to jump. I do
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  Speaker 2: love your point. Corbin Burns makes your bullpen better period, right,
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  Speaker 2: I can sum Upcratz a statement right there. He made
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  Speaker 2: the Orioles mid bullpen last year better because he goes
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  Speaker 2: deep every freaking time Jacob junis signed and being that
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  Speaker 2: we might not have time to cover it on the
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  Speaker 2: main show, we can give it to the YouTube fan.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a five million dollar contract this season for Cleveland,
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  Speaker 2: and he can serve as a swingman, which is pretty
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  Speaker 2: important for Cleveland. So it guarantees four and a half.
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  Speaker 2: So this is Kylie McDaniel breaking the story yesterday. A
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  Speaker 2: one year contract four and a half can work as
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  Speaker 2: a starter or a reliever. Two hundred and sixty five
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  Speaker 2: innings pitched over the last three seasons for the Giants,
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  Speaker 2: the Brewers, and the Reds. And yeah, last year he
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  Speaker 2: signed for seven million bucks with Milwaukee. It sounded like
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  Speaker 2: they initially wanted to be a starter. You know, he
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  Speaker 2: bounced around a little bit. So there's a guy that
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  Speaker 2: I also think fits the stat cast Darling Metrics two.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't he one of those guys last year for Milwaukee? Kratz.
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  Speaker 2: Were you paying attention to what he was bringing to
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  Speaker 2: the table there.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, one hundred percent. He has. He has since twenty three.
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  Speaker 4: It was actually partly through twenty two is when I
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  Speaker 4: saw it. He started to realize that he doesn't need
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  Speaker 4: to fit the mold of what everyone else thinks he
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  Speaker 4: needs to do. And I think San Francisco really helped him.
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  Speaker 4: And I was nervous about him going to Milwaukee. He
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  Speaker 4: just said, I'm gonna throw strikes. This is a dude
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  Speaker 4: that had a whip below a one I think last year,
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  Speaker 4: even below a point nine. He said I'm gonna throw strikes.
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't mean he doesn't walk guys. It just means he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna throw strikes. He doesn't have v low, but man,
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  Speaker 4: he gets such soft contact. This is a huge value pickup.
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  Speaker 4: I think for the Guardians I kind of forgot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, I forgot him at him too. But
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  Speaker 2: Todd father a classic case of going team by team
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  Speaker 2: and each team telling you your slider's really good, you
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  Speaker 2: should use it more. Just keep using it more and more,
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  Speaker 2: and also try to avoid lefties in the lineup. If
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  Speaker 2: you're bringing him out as a reliever right maybe you
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  Speaker 2: find a patch of right e's and you attack.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he when he first came up to I remember
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  Speaker 1: facing him, he had a heavier fastball than usual, like
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  Speaker 1: it had some ride effect to it that you're like, man,
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  Speaker 1: why am I missing? This just one of those pictures
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  Speaker 1: where you just did not have a good feel on
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  Speaker 1: And he's really good.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 1: He's just gonna keep on going. And we've seen it
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  Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. It doesn't matter what
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  Speaker 1: team he's with. It's a guy that's a staple for
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  Speaker 1: that team and he's gonna give you winnings and he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna go out there and give you what he's got.
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  Speaker 1: And like krat says, you strike thrower again, people are
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  Speaker 1: gonna walk. But at the same time, when you're throwing strikes,
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  Speaker 1: your defense gotta be ready and most of the time.
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  Speaker 3: They will be ready.
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  Speaker 1: So again, a nice little pick up here by the Guardians.
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  Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot more of these picks coming up.
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  Speaker 1: There's still a ton of free agents out there, so
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  Speaker 1: we'll see as we keep moving forward here in February.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what he said.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 4: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he said. We got a couple of Framber
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  Speaker 2: Valdees quotes, and then some fire from the Tigers too,
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  Speaker 2: but let's start with Framber. We can show them both
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  Speaker 2: and then comment afterward. They both were notable. He was
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  Speaker 2: asked about jose L Tuvey playing in left field and
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  Speaker 2: I love this answer quote, I don't think it's going
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  Speaker 2: to happen. That's just a lot of talk second base
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  Speaker 2: or nothing. And then he was also asked if he's
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  Speaker 2: been approached about an extension and he said no, no
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  Speaker 2: approach from the Astros and he's been under their watch
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  Speaker 2: for a while, so that's pretty telling. No approach about
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  Speaker 2: an extension from the team. So I would imagine he's
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  Speaker 2: going to get himself to free agency after this. But
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  Speaker 2: let's start at the top. Did you guys like that,
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  Speaker 2: because Todd father, this has been a story for a
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  Speaker 2: while now, and we've been debating if he should play
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  Speaker 2: second or left. Obviously, his defensive metrics at second base
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  Speaker 2: have diminished. That doesn't mean he's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: good left fielder, and he'd have to learn a new position.
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  Speaker 2: He's willing to do it. But Framberg's like, nah, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe he's referring to how they were trying to recruit Bregman,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: but now that there's no Bregman, they'll have him practice
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: out there, but not really end up doing it once
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: the season starts.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: No, And I think he's right. It sounds like he's
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: part of the you know, breath of the team. I
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: love this kind of talk. But yeah, I agree. I
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: remember Cratzy talking about how how tough it would be
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: on his legs. He's getting older. I think this, excuse
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: me is the right idea. Keep him at second base.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: You know, he's not the worst second base, and sometimes
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: it's the rows go awry a little bit, but yeah,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: that's him. He's second base. I like that second base
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: or nothing, Poppy, let's go. And I haven't had any
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: extension talks any other question. They're probably like, all right,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: well I got everything done. So Bramber's good dude, and
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: hopefully he stays healthy this year too and goes out
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: there and dominate.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: No matter what we think about two Vey's defense at second,
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: if a pitcher that's thrown in front of him for
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: five years, because pitchers know every single dude that they
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: do not want anybody hit the ball to, he knows
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: if ol two Bay's brutal at second base, like like
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: some people are saying he is. I don't think he's brutal,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: but I also don't think it's second base or nothing.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: They get Bragman, they ain't putting al two Vey on
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: the bench. Let's put it that way. And that's what
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: nothing is. He didn't say second base or DH or
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: second base or he's traded. He said nothing. And they
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: ain't gonna live with nothing about two By. They need
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: this man bat in the lineup. If it mant he
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: needed to go to the left, I'm sure he would
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: have gone to the left. But just listen to the pictures.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Pictures know, like if a picture's like, Man, I really
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: love how how's his defense? I really love how he
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: swings it. Ooh, he's a big part of our lineup.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Do you trust him back there? Man? It is so
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: nice to watch him run the basis. Like he said,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: he's a second baseman. He doesn't care that he's out there.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Hey, more on this because this is going to be
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: a topic all spring training long. We'll cover it, but
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: we have to cover the other twenty nine crush City.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Doesn't they just cover the Astros. It's Chandler Rome, it's
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Tyler Stafford, and it's Josh Reddick in the middle there,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: the former astro. They'll give this a lot of time.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Go check it out wherever you can find your shows.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: And now let's go to Tiger territory, because Scott Harris
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: spoke minutes before the show began today, and of course
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: the question was what happened? How come you didn't get bregmant?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to read one and then we have
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: two more we'll show you, but I'm going to read
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: one that I just found that I think he's going
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: to get the most pub Evan Petzold posted this one
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: from the President of Baseball Operations, Scott Harris said, quote,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: We're going to be just fine without Alex Bregman. We
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: still have just got to the postseason and just beat
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: a team with Alex Bregman, so it clearly can be done.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I'll give you a couple more so now we can
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: go over these quotes here. Scott Harris today saying we
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: want players who want to be here. I say it
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: a lot because I mean it. We want players who
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: want to be Tigers. We made a very compelling offer
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: to Alex Bregman, but he chose to sign somewhere else.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: That's fine, And then he talked about if they're in
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: the market for a righty bat. He said, I don't
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: think there's going to be one coming through free agency.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: We're going to explore trade opportunities. Really good about the
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: group we have, and we think it's a group that's
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: going to continue to get better. Say it with your chest,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Todd Father, I like this. Hey, this dude doesn't want
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: to be here. Screw it. We're going to beat him
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: wherever he is.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Listen, you love everything, You're the best, you love those boats.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: You're straight from the piper's mouth. Listen, go on, go
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: on with it, man, I listen. If you gotta go
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: with what you feel, you gotta talk how you feel sometimes.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: You know some people might not like it, but there's
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: no taking back anything. Man.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: This is the life we live in, and I'm glad
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: some people are approaching things differently.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: And this is the new era. So here we go,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: here we go, buckle up.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: I love it. I mean they made every reason, they
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: made every effort to say, Alex, do you want to
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: be a Tiger. Here's the money we're gonna give you.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: It's more than anybody else is giving you. So when
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: we talk about, oh, they didn't try hard enough, Tigers
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: tried hard enough. And Scott Harris, I think Scott's like
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: thirty eight years old. He's a young exec. He's been
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: he's been around the game, different teams, he's seen, he's
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: seen winning, and him and aj Hinch to me, are
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: trying to create a culture there that it's okay. Like
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: if he didn't accept our offer, we showed he really
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: wanted him, We're moving on. We got dudes. You want
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: a right handed bat maybe they said, you know, the
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: whole right handed bat thing. Spencer Torkelsen might have already
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: been in the batting cage. They got a dude on
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: the roster that they don't spot for right now that
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: had thirty dangers, Like there's potential there. You would love
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: to have seen it solidified with an Alex Bregman.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: And you're right. Scott Harris born eighty seven, so he's
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: probably thirty seven right now. Would be my guest unless
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: he had an early birthday. So yeah, he's a younger
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: general manager and he definitely has a little confidence that
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I like in a quote like that, I'm going to
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: go back against your tourklsin talk because Cole Keat's at first.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying they need a right handed bat.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I agree, they do need a right handed back. Kerry
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Carpenter is going to get a lot of DH time,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: although I don't think he's that bad in the outfield.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: So for that young of a dude, I would like
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: to see him play in the outfield more. I get
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: that there's you know, some playing time shuffling to figure out.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: You're right, though, I mean, if Turkelsen just absolutely tears
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: up spring training, it's going to be different. He's very
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: humbled right now, and he's trying to take like me
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: against the world approach in a good way. You know.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: He talked in camp already about how he understands that
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: he hasn't performed upday expectations, so he's just going to
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: try and go prove himself. He said all the right things.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: He's good dude, good fella, but good Back to Scott
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Harris quotes here Todd father, if I was the president
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: of baseball operations for the Tigers and I made the
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: best offer really by far in terms of guaranteed money,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I'd be pretty pissed off because this is something you
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: have to get permission for from your ownership group, and
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: you're you're like, hey, I think this guy could give us,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: you know, five to seven more wins this season something
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: like that. Right, don't just go off war. He can
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: make an impact on the team both on the field
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: and off the field. I think this guy could fault
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: us into a division title and a title contender. Right. So, yeah,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I'd be ticked, and I like the way he said it.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I I would be a little peeved, But at the
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: same time, I'd be a little confused too, Like, listen,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I put my neck on the line here to get you,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: and I you know, I made the best offer. I
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: gave you years, I gave you the most money. What
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: else What else could I have done?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know that.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: And that's how you just kind of like bewildered a
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: little bit, Like, dude, we got aj Hinch over here,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: and that's your guy, Like, what what else could we
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: have done?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: You sit back, maybe over you know, at dinner or whatever,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you talk to your cronies and you're like, man, all right,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: well there goes one. I mean, hopefully this this isn't
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: a trend here, but I don't think it is. But
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: at the same time, it's like you always have something
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: in the back of your mind. So I'd be a
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: little confused a little bit why he wouldn't come over there.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Maybe if they felt like he was, they were used,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: if the Tigers were used to just build up other prices,
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: maybe then they'd have a chance to feel pissed off.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: But to me, it's just like anybody any other job.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: You give it the best shot that you had. You
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: might have extended you know, Hey, you know what, ownership
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: let me into the purse strings a little bit, so
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: I got into that cash. But you know what, maybe
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: it opens up an opportunity for somebody else. Maybe maybe
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: your willingness to be a winning team. I get it.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: It's gonna be tough to get Aeronauto to say I
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: want to go to Detroit. You know, maybe he doesn't
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: want to go from Saint Louis to Detroit. I get that,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: that's why he's But he could change his mind. He
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: clearly needs to change his mind if he wants to
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: get out of Saint Louis. And you're almost getting the
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: same offensive value as what Bregman did last year. We're
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: only going on last year recency bias. I get that
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: and Aeronauto has been declining. I get that, but you're
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: gonna get guaranteed better glove. So to me, their value
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: based on war was almost exactly the same. You would
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: be paying this dude around as Ken just saidossibly for
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: three years at fifteen a year, just just something to
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: get out there. Possibly it's there. The numbers aren't that different.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: But we were talking about Bregman getting two hundred million.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: I get it, I get it. Ernata doesn't want to
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: go there. People change their mind, people change their mind.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I mean, he's not going to get
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: traded when you give five teams one just signed guy.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: The Yankees weren't interested, the Padres can't take on that
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: kind of money, the Dodgers don't have room, and then
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: there might be one other team I'm missing. I don't know.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: That's it's a tough sell.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, how bad does no one want to play? And
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: obviously he's gonna play in Saint Louis And honestly, you know,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: he was a Rocky when they were good, so he
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: knew winning. Then then he went to Saint Louis and
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: they've stunk for a part half his time there. So
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: how bad does he want to win.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: We were getting all right, one more, one more for
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: that's what he said. The legend. Patrick Murphy, manager of
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Brewers, just getting it out of the way.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: So Adam mccalvey writes on this tweet, if you were
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: surprised to hear Pat Murphy name an opening day starter
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: on Wednesday, the very day pitchers and catchers reported to
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: spring training, you were not alone. Freddie Peralta was named
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: the opening day starter and they asked him about it,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: and the quote was I was like, hey, it's not
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: even the first day. And I'm sure he was smiling
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: and laughing, because that's Freddie style. He's full of smiles.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: But Murph was hilarious, just like, hey, yeah, I know
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: you guys want that. So there you go, Freddie starting
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: ha ha. Now you can't bother me about it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: We should have asked it. When I saw this came out,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: I was super bummed that I didn't ask him, who's
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: going to be the opening day starter? But it never,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: not even once came to my head when we saw
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: him at the bbwa's you were going to ask him, well,
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: oh yeah, saying I wish I would have it. Just
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: never wouldn't have been something like it's usually halfway through
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: spring training, how everything's lined up, but everybody's pitching. They
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: got a big calendar in a manager's office. They know
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: when every single picture is pitching and when that gets off,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: like it's like six days here. Oh, now we're ready
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: for five, you know, five days and we're only gonna
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: go five innings here and then boom, opening day and
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: you can see who it's gonna line up. I love
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: it that they already did it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: And then I mean, listen to Marlins did the same thing.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Then't they already named a starter for the Marlins Sandy
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: O contract. It's not the end of the world. You
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: can always change your mind. And I think people don't
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: understand that. But hey, listen, you're the starter. Let's go.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: You're our guy. Let's go now. It's like a you're
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: going to bed a little chip on your shoulder, like, yeah,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: Let's do this. That's exciting.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: So let's go through the camp knowing I'm gearing up
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: for day one and now you got your plan.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: It helps out players in the long run.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Also, I mean, who else is starting Game one for
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: the Brewers. Freddy's been the rock now right, it was
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Corbin Woodriff, Freddy corbyin gone woodriff, hurt now Woodriff rehabbing,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: trying to get back, looking pretty normal right now in
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: spring training. They're pumped. But he's not going to do
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: opening day Freddy Peralta. I mean, there's nobody else that's
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: going to be in that category. He's earned it, so
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: that's an easy one.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I can't name their five starters. And I'm a Brewers fan, Yeah,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: especially with Dale Halls. Now he's going to start the
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: season on the IL. Well he's shut down right now.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Obviously they haven't said the word IL, but they said
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: the word shoulder.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Your boy is there. Nasty Nestor won't come on the show.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Nasty Nestor in Milwaukee.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: I'm saying five. I can't. I can't name all five.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: Big Wus throwing. Big Woo might be throwing right now,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: or maybe he finished.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: He threw already and they yeah, they like cheered and
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: it was cool. You know, they did like a hey,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: welcome back.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Do they do that?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Is that a normal thing when like a guy comes
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: back from a long injury where he like finally throws
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: to hitters, And they did kind of a like, let's go.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I think they maybe did like some hugs and stuff
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: like your back dude, just.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Depends, just depends.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's that kind of guy though. He's that kind
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: of guy that some guys that go on IL and
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: they go like they they're a recluse. Big Woo's Big
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: was there. Big Woo was one of the guys like
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: he's so relatable to everybody. And so I'm sure that
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: that's the kind of that's when it really you know,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: it really hits guys when they make their first you know,
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: live batting practice. Sessh, that's big, that's big. So I'm
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: glad they did something cool for him.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I also want to be fair to the Brewers on
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the way out here. So Freddy p won number two
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: starter who was damn good last year. It's just a
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: new name. Tobias Myers very good last year. Yes, Ness
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Cortes three and then four actually is a guy that
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: the front office loves and that many front offs is love.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: And he's been up and down. But remember he just
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: finished what top ten I think in stuff plus that
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: just came out Aaron Savali and then they've got Aaron
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Ashby right now as the five.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: Soot forgot, I forgot about.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: I see you Milwaukee. Hey, this is the time of year,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: spring training. We get cleaned up on all the roster stuff,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: because obviously there was no reason for us to talk
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: about Tobias Meyer between you know, like October third or
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: whatever their last day was, and he was really good
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: in that last game. And then just now, dudes with
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the team league minimum, second year or whatever it is
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: for him on service time, blah blah blah, All right,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: signing in a couple questions, Let me do the questions. First,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: someone brought up Arnado to the Jays as a question.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Steven asked, I mean, sure, awesome, awesome fit. Will Nolan go?
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Probably not okay? And then one more follow up was
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: would you rather try and force it now if you're
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Nolan and the Cardinals, or do you at this point
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: just wait and let him actually prove himself because it
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: works for both sides. If he's good in this first half,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Todd father better than he was with the bat last year,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: more of a say, twenty percent better than league average
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: versus league average bat. More teams are going to be interested.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: That opens up more opportunities for him, and it opens
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: up better trade opportunities for the Cardinals to get the
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: money that they want taken in the contract.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it also hurts him.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: What happens if he comes out and first two months
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: he's batt in two fifteen, you know what I'm saying.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's going to happen, but what happens
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: if it does? You got to take both. So right now,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: if I'm RNA, I'm trying to get out of there now.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Just in case.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: You know, I do have a stinky first half for
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: a couple of months, So then you're stuck. Then you're
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: stuck there for forever until you're done playing pretty much.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: So it's it's a tough situation to be in, you know,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: you do you put all your coins in and say
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I'm all in, I'm gonna'm gonna better myself this year
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: because I didn't get what I wanted, or do you
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: find a way to get a team before spring training
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: ends and go there. So that's it's really tough to do,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: really tough decision, especially as you're getting older.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I don't think his decline has been that steep. For
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: three years. He was MVP third and MVP race in
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: twenty two so two seasons he's had a steep decline,
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: But you're talking about dude that's gonna play elite defense
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: still and a dude that is essentially one hundred or
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: less strikeouts per season, and he's on the field all
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: the time. So he's gonna be out there first half.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: He's gonna play eighty one games like he just he
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: is on the field. It's what he's done. It's his
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: mo So to me, that value is right now for
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: a team, is right now for Arnado to go go
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: beyond a team, be out there every day, solidify that
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: third base position for a team that needs it.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: And the Cardinals are going to play him because they
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: want to trade him. So I originally was like, what
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: if he gets off to a slow start, but the
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Cardinals get off to a fast start and they want
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: to play someone else over him, They won't because they'll
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: want him to swing out of it and get on
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: a good track so that the trade value is still there.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: You don't want to start sitting them consistently. So it's
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: just a little sloppy. Now, all right, we didn't get
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: to that White Sox signing. Joey Gallo signs a minor
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: League contract with the White Sox. And this is just
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: beautiful because AJ is a White Sox fan. He's not
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: here today, and he has always had interesting thoughts on
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Joey Gallo as well. Joey definitely is not for the
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: old school batting average lovers. I'll be frank there. He
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: would say it too, even during his glory days, because
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Joey had some big days with the Texas Rangers. But
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: as far as I remember, I want to say, there
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: was like one year where he had this batting average anomaly,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: but the rest of his career you would look here,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go right now. You guys want to guess
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: what his career high batting average season is, and it
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: is world's higher than any other season that he had.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Two fifty seventy five.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Two fifty three. Good job, krats, you cheated man as
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: you Yeah, come on, number two he was Yeah, he
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: was banking.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: I just watch baseball, Yeah.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Number number two, I watch.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, So that was in twenty nineteen with Texas and
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: the second best batting average that he ever put together
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: was in the low two hundreds. Yeah, So I think
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: number two was two o nine. I think i've got
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: that right in twenty seventeen. Yeah, two o nine, And
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: since he hit twenty twenty one, he hit one ninety nine,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: and since then we've got a one sixty.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: And his values in the ops, his values in the ops.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: I remember that, I remember that fifty Yeah, because he
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: like why did he like wide it out? And he
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: would like go no stride? Sometimes this is unbelievable. What's
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: he gonna do? Listen, everybody gets enamored by this stuff.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: They get enamored by like, oh, he needed to swing change.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: Dude're always trying to swing change. You're always trying to
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: change your swing to do something better. I hit forty homers,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: I would hit forty five. Nobody's like I hit forty
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: just gonna kind of stay status quo. No, you're looking
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: to get better. You're looking to get better in the
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: weight room. All this stuff he was, he was. His
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: OPS before was elite.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, he was elite. Do you know what it was
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen his OPS was nine eighty six, OP
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: plus was one forty five. He was a star that year, William.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I don't see how the Yankees move Stroman unless the
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: eight fifty percent of twenty twenty five and twenty six
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: salary if it kicks in. So here's the one part
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: we didn't get to. And I know we've talked a
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: lot about stro show, but it's a story.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: He has a vesting option for next year. So this
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: is where I do want to get the pros and
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: cons of what he said and what he believes, which
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: is that he should be a starter. He signed with
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: the Yankees to be a starter. There were essentially incentives
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: in that contract for him to hit one hundred and
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: forty innings, and that was based on him staying healthy,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: not him cracking the rotation. Sure, there's a little bit
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: of both. If he suddenly falls off the planet and
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: can't be a big league starter, that's different. But he
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: still is a respectable big league starter. He right now
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: could be on the outside looking in. Kratz, so he
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: wants to hit that one forty innings because he gets
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: eighteen million dollars next year if he does so. He
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: is very motivated to be a starter, and that's why
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: he very clearly states right from the jump, I'm not
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: going to get paid to be a reliever this year
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: and then lose my contract option for next year. I'm
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: just saying. I'm not saying it's the right or wrong thing.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I'll let you take that over because this is the
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: former player show. So what do you.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: Got Listen, I tried to be in the big leagues
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: all the time. I get it. Me and Marcus Stroman
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: are not on the same level. For me, my level
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: is just be I wanted to be in the big leagues.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: You signed me. I have an opportunity to be in
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: the big leagues. I do my job, I do well.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Why am I not in the big leagues. It's similar.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: It's happening to a superstar. In his mind, he's a superstar.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: Reality is he's probably, you know, just a you know,
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: he's probably at number four right now in a rotation.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: Just because he doesn't get what he signed up for
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: doesn't mean that he needs to like hold out or
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: this isn't fair. The game is not fair. The game
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: is going to screw you over at some point. Everybody,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: it's going to be something different for him right now.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: That's what it looks like. Yes, it's okay that he
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: says he wants to be a starter, but you know what,
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: if his vesting option doesn't pick doesn't get picked up,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: that means the team is doing it, and maybe he
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: doesn't want to be a part of that team. Maybe
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: he just wants to cash.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: And I would just say, where does he fit in
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: that rotation? You know what I mean? Does he does
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: he fit in that rotation right now? I mean what
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: would what would you guys think? Yes or no?
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think you know, he's not in their top
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: five guys.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: He'd be a nice piece to have, you know, just
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: in case.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Let sizzle, Hey, Ronald d'acunya junior is going to play
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Major League baseball again this season. I miss Ronald d'acuna junior.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Fun player to watch fantasy baseball darling right, he gives
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: you everything. Batting average, home runs, still in bases, galore,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: RBIs Oh oh wait, hold up? Might be a few
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: less swipes, might be a few less swipes to preserve
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: the body for the entire season, including the playoffs. I
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: don't like it, but it's just what happens with age
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: and with injuries. So here's Mark Bowman. Acunya spoke today.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: First of all, huge props to Aucunyan. I'm serious on
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: this one. He addressed the media in English, and he
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: usually would work with an interpreter Marco. So that means
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: he worked on his English to sofseason and I always
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: just have the utmost respect for that. I can barely
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: speak English. Now let me begin. Acunya says he feels good,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: believes his left knee is more stable than his right
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: knee was coming off the twenty twenty one ACL tear.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: He acknowledges he will need to be less aggressive on
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: the basis. When asked about not returning until May, he
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: said he'll be ready whenever the Braves clear him. So
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: just gave all the good answers. He's ahead of schedule,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: but he's gonna go off their timetable. Yeah, here's Justin Tuskana,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: who covers the team too. Kudos to Acunya basically did
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: the whole interview in English. It was good English. He
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: didn't need Franco the interpreter translator. So kuny joke that
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: he lost his job. Franco lost his job. Alexanthopolis spoke
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: and said Akunya won't play in any spring training games,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: but he might dch in some games on backfield. No
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: discussion of him dhing at all once he's off the IL.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: And I've heard that multiple times. Too. They don't want
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: him daching, They want him in the outfield. No timetable
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: until late spring. On his eta off the il, they
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: said he's way ahead of the same stage of his
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: previous ACL recovery. So some people are probably going to
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: complain Todd father and say, he's ahead of schedule from
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: last time around. He began the last recovery at the
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: start of the season. Why don't you just bring him
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: back right off the jump. They don't want to do that.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: They want to make sure that they don't have a
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: repeat situation of a few years ago where he came
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: back and he wasn't himself for that entire season. So
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: they've spoken about it a lot and how they want
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: him to take it easy and they want to just
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: give much more time off the surgery. And I think
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: the key was Todd father that you can't totally tell
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: how much the knee is strengthened, right, So they know
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: that if they give him a little bit more time
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: than last time, even if he's ahead of schedule, they're
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: going to put themselves in a good position. And obviously
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: they feel confident enough that the team can handle the
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: first month of the season without him.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the one thing we got to
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: point out is he's working. We saw videos of him running,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: We've seen him getting after it with.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: PT physical therapy.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: This guy is trying to get back and wear for him,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: and I think the best thing they can do is
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: get him back to nearly one hundred percent. I think
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: this is the right move. I think if you're too
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: quick on things, it's going to hurt you in the
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: long run. It might not hurt you in the beginning,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: but those last forty to fifty games, all of a sudden,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: your body's like, oh boy, I can't keep up. And
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: that's when people get injured. But yeah, I like to
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: move here. These doctors, they have some of the best
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: out there. Every team does. They guys know what they're doing.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: And if they say maybe another month, will do it.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Keep working, going games, going the backfield, get your swings in,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: get some extra running in, and kind of slow the
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: pace here a little bit for him. I think that'll
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: be better for him. I mean, thirty stone bases is
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: still a pretty good year of my opinion. So yeah,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: he's still going to be a maniac on the base pass.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: He's still going to go first to third and score
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: on you know, balls in the gaps and stuff and
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: go trace down balls.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: But yeah, you got to be a little more cautious.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: This isn't the first time, so he's got to be
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: very wary of what he does, even though he'll be
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: back to almost full strength and get after it, but
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: be you know, aggressive but under control.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: I always say, and I've probably said it four or
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: five times on this show, the half life of a injury,
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: like let's say ACL repair and rehab is nine months.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Let's say that's the number. I don't know exactly what
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: the number is. To me, you're almost you almost need
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: another four and a half months till you are the
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: person you were before. So think about who he was
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: after his first initial ACL injury. Pushed through that season,
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: he still twenty nine bags. It's great, but you saw
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: it kind of wear on them a little bit. He
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: wasn't able to play the same outfield, and then the
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: next year he went on and won the MVP and
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: was killing it. So your expectations need to be tempered
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: a little bit in my opinion for this next season.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know which is worse having your back leg
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: repaired hitting or having your front leg repaired. Hitting because
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: you got to get off your back leg to get
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: your front leg, but you got to take all the
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: power and transfer to your front leg. So it'll be
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: interesting to see what happens. But the cautious approach by
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: the team is what they need to do because this
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: dude is a horse and when you let him out
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: of the stable, he's gonna go. He knows only one
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: way to play the game and if the teams, if
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: the team rushes him, it could be detrimental. So to me,
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: they take their time, then they get the best form
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: of Acunya when he's out there. Five months of a
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: great Acunya is much better than six months of an
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: average Acunya.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Bingo and this team as a motto, it's World Series
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: or bust. It was the motto last spring, then they
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: had a ton of injuries this spring. They're kind of
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: hearing it from the media. They keep asking, oh is
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: your motto? I've seen multiple players address that. They're like, not,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: it's just stay healthy. We're not going to say that again.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: But internally they know they've got a bunch of their
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: players locked up in their primes. Acunya's coming back, Strider's
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: coming back, Profar enters the mix. This is a good team.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Is a good good bullpen from last year too. This
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: is a good team that I think is not being
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: talked about enough because there's a little bit of jadedness probably,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I know that's probably not a word, but people are jaded.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: But the Braves have been good for a while, right,
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: so they're just like, oh yeah, the Braves are still there.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: The Braves might end up being a World Series champ,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: and I don't think anyone should be surprised if that
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: ends up happening. If Strider comes back and he's firing
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: and sales stays healthy, they could be a problem.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Mentor's gonna be a tough bruplace. I know, just one
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: guy that's now your closer isn't always tough to replace.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: I think what he brought to that bullpen is tough
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: to replace. Somebody has to step up. They have. They
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: have a bunch of dudes, but it's gonna be tough
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: to replace because they always produce starting pitching. They're just
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: they're just a farm. I mean, my entire life, my
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: entire life. The Braves just call up starting pitching.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: The entire life.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: Seriously, I mean, I was a Phillies fan growing up,
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: and it's just like, oh, Steve Avery, and then they
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: got you know, Greg Maddis gets sent over, and then
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: they have John smolt So and then they have Tom
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: Gladden and then you're like, oh, yeah, no, no chance's
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: gonna happen. Like they were even doing it last year
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: when he had all those injuries. Bryce Bryce Elder came up,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: was an All Star, struggled and you're like, oh, man,
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: that's gotta be the end, you know. Now they have
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: Ian Anderson, who's gonna be coming back Ian.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Anderson, Spencer's schwelling Baki is really freaking good, right, I.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: Mean, I know, I go through Smith Schager, all the
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: dudes that like just they just keep producing starting pitching
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: that comes up, and it's different eras before. It was
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: like all dudes a throw down in a way and
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: they just spot and they spot the ball down in
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: a way and they hold runners really well. They don't
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: walk too many guys. Now it's like, oh, you know
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: what's cool, spin rate top of the zone. Oh we
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: got nine of those guys. The Braves have produced starting
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: pitching forever for a minute.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's special. And last one too, I mean Strider
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: was not a first round pick. He was a fifth
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: round pick, and there are a lot of scouts looking
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: around like, how did we miss this? He is insane.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: So anyway, we'll talk more about the Braves at some point.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: If you want to play out the season already, we
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: want to shout out our friends out of the Park
• 46:50
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• 46:53
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• 46:56
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• 47:22
  Speaker 2: they have the World Baseball Classic as part of the game.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: It is by far the most detailed sim game you
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: will ever come across. Okay, you can do Drive to
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: the Pennant, which kind of streamlines everything for you. If
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: you just want to play out any season, you want
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: to take your team right now and play out a season.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Take your team and put one player on it. Like
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: let's say you're Detroit and you're all pissed because you
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: didn't get Bregman, but you want to put Bregman on
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: your team and see if that would have changed things.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: You can play that season out in a simulated mode.
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  Speaker 2: So go check that out. Bring us back for a sex.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: I know, Todd father, you've played this, so we can
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: get into scenarios right where you can go okay, two
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: four or red sox. Let's say they actually get a rod,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: would they still have won? You can do all of that.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: You can keep it simple like I mentioned, or the
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: detail like do you want me to give you a
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: detail or two. I was talking to one of the
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: developers this morning about the game, and I was like,
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: can I can I figure out you know which food
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I'm feeding the minor league player? And they were like, actually,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: they were like, you can set up training programs per
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: minor league player. So it's called performance lab or player
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: development lab two point zero. I wrote it down. They said,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: you can take every minor league prospect and you can go, hey,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I want you to learn a new pitch this offseason.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I want you to try to swing for more power,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: maybe change your launch angle, and it might hurt your contact,
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: and then it's risk rewards. Sometimes it's going to work,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: sometimes it's not. So if you think you're a big shot,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: this is the game to be able to pull it off.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got I got shamboozled there on the bottom
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: of the ninth.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: It was a fun game to fly.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Of course, you have to let aj win because then
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: the show turns into you know what, But anyway it is.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: You get to decide where to position your players, how
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: to go, you know, everything that comes with baseball.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: Fun game and it's not hard to get used to.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: It's not hard to figure out.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: But yes, it was a fun game, and their games
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: aren't that long either, and it's very interesting to play.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: I recommend it for sure.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: And during COVID, coaching staffs actually used it to simulate
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: game scenarios when everyone's just sitting at home, like what
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: am I doing? And Baseball couldn't figure out how to
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: get back on the field before everyone else, even though
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: they should have. That's a whole other episode, but there
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: were coaching staffs using it to just sim out lineups
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Just I mean obviously partially for
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: entertainment purposes, but also just to you know, play out
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: game scenarios. So anyway, it's awesome, we love it. Chat
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: out to Out of the Park twenty six, go get
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: after it, ft FAM, what are they saying? They're spreading room?
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: But the rumors might be true. Here pretty confident Anthony
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Rendon does not want to play anymore. Okay, I know
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not going out on a limb here, Alden Gonzalez said,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I think on TV and this is where Behind the
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Halo captured the quote, and Alden's on ESPN talking to
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: people who know Anthony Rendon. The thought is he might
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: just retire. Hip surgery is a huge undertaking. He's got
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: only one year left on his contract after this season.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I got to think this is the end. I don't
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: think he plays another game with the Angels.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Okay, hm, hip surgery is no joke, man.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he can't really retire. He's got to still
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: go through the process and try to get back on
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: the field unless he gets you know whatever that medical
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: exemption kind of thing is that says you can't play anymore.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to be the case. So
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: he's gonna have to go through the process and try
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: and get himself back for I guess next season, but
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: really doing here at this point, Todd Father, You.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: First off, if you get the hip surgery, I mean,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna go, you know, half hearted into it.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: You want your hip to be better.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: This guy's gonna if I'm him, I mean just to
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: you know, keep my psyche involved.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: I want my hip to be good for future in life.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I want to, you know, eventually down the road if
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: he you know, I don't know if he has kids
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: or he he wanted to have kids or cousins or
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: nieces or nephews, he's gonna want to play baseball with
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: him hopefully in sports and be able to function. So
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: that and you're not gonna want to lose out on
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: that money too as well. I mean that's just human
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: nature as well. So he's definitely not going to retire.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't say definitely not, but I don't think he will.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: It's something that you know, there's a lot of money
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: on the line here, and you know he's got one
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: more year. Will he ever be an angel again and
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: get on the field. That's that's later to be seen.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Well, then let's let's pull it. Raise your hand. If
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: you think Anthony Rendon plays another game for the Angels, okay,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: if you think he retires, he's not retiring, Crats. Actually,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: here's what's gonna happen. They're not gonna buy out the deal.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: He's just going to be out of the picture and
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: he can kind of slow play the rehab process. I
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: don't know the exact details of the surgery. I don't
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: even know if he had the surgery yet. It sounds
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: like everyone's just kind of done with each other. They
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: could technically just say here's your money, go away, or
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: he could just be hanging around. I guess on the
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: roster and the off season is the problem, Krats. So
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: we get through this season, he doesn't play, and then
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: you're back on the forty man roster. It just gives
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: you one less spot to work with. Remember the Nats.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: We're doing that with Strasburg until they gave in and said, uncle,
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: we're done. So you could do that after this season.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: I feel like on his side, he's going to take
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: his time. He doesn't want to play, and he's going
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: to tell us that you know straightforward at some point
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: probably in his life, like hey, I just you just
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: know there's going to be some random podcast that's not
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: even necessarily sports relating. He's going to be like, I
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: just didn't want to play ball and my body was
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: failing me, and so I just was done.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: When you look at a guy like Rendome, you look
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: at him and you go, wow, this dude is like
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: he's just stone cold, like he's just he's up there,
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: he's battling. Every picture never really shows much emotion. That's
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: how you talk about Anthony Rendon when he's an MVP candidate,
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: when he's a All Star, when he's helping the Nast
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: win a World Series. Now when he's not on the field,
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: he's not coming back from injuries as quick as we
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: think he should. Now he's viewed in this way that
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: he doesn't really like the game of baseball, that his
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: comments are viewed as not like, oh, he's just so
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: you know, he does a good job of blocking baseball out.
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: It's viewed as a negative. He hasn't changed who he
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: is at all. His production on the field is how
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: we're dictating what type of person he is. And to me,
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: if you are either way, it doesn't really matter. You're
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: not just going through a surgery. So I hope for
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: him it's just like a cleanup that they can milk
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: and not like, hey, we're going in and getting like
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: a big time hip surgery. But I just I just
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: I wish for him that it all had turned out
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: differently because he was a really good player.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Agreed, dude, he was a star in college too. But
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: the reason that he dropped a few spots he was
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: coming out of Rice University was injuries. He's always had injuries,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: so that part I'm not going to default him for.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: And I just think the body's breaking down. He's like,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: this is annoying to get on the field now, and
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: he admittedly doesn't love the game, and that's always been
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: the case. So it was a bad idea to make
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: the signing because everyone in baseball knew what his attitude
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: was and you had to be okay with that and
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: know the risk that he was not going to be
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: David Wright diagnosed with spinal stenosis and still trying to
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: get on the field. This was the opposite of that.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: I think that was pretty well known in the sport.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: But yes, your rightekrats, that is what made him great
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: and for a moment, legendary as a champion with the
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Nats in twenty nineteen because he did not give up
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: bleep when he was at the plate, and so the
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: pressure just didn't hit him the same way. He's like, whatever,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: it's just a game, and a lot of other guys
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: were pressing in those moments. So All Star MVP. During
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: the year, he was one twenty nine ops play Baseball
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Reference War nine win player. I mean, he was standout.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: He was a top five player maybe in the American League,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: But can he crack nineteen homers this year over under
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: eighteen and a half Todd Father last year? For all
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: of that, I would have thought in my head if
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: you asked me before I looked again, twenty six he
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: had twenty one homers. That's not like the biggest part
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: of his game.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're going to see more doubles and
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: triples than home runs. I can see him at a
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: fifteen range. Jared Duran is a special ballplayer with the
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Red Sox. I've said this numerous times, and it's not
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: because I played with him with Team USA for you know,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: qualifying matchups. This kid can fly. He's got Billy Hamilton
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: type speed. He goes and tracks down the balls wherever
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: it is. I feel like he's a staple in center field.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I think they should leave him there and have him
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: go get balls left and right and just let him
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: manufacture his way in the outfield and lead him off.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: I just want him if he stays healthy that we
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: say this all the time. It's like a you know
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: then and then if he is healthy, Mike Goodness, this
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: guy can put up some video game numbers when it
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: comes to stolen bases, run scored.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: And you know, doubles and triples.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: So I see around a fifteen home re mark, so
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I will bet the under. But I do see a
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: ton of extra base heads even on singles. I see
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: a ton of doubles.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: He's a dude that can turn singles into doubles. So
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: if you're asking me about the doubles, let's they make
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: sure we hit that for bet MGM later. Yeah, because
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: I'm taking the over on doubles, I'm taking the under
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: on homers here just because the swing doesn't necessarily dictate
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: that he drives the ball to you know, left field
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: with authority in the sense of over the monster. He's
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: going to drive the ball to right center like the
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: homer he hit in the All Star Game. It's pretty
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: deep out there, Verity deep in eight one of the games.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going under too, just slightly. I like the
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: player a lot. Here's an offer for the basketball people
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: this weekend. Each Friday throughout the season, you can pick
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: a player you thinks going to score the first field
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: go in a game. But if it's not your dude,
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: he scores the second field goal, you get your stake
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: back in cash only on the bet MGM sportsbook app.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Gambling problem more concern called one eight hundred gambling. All right,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: let's lap. I'm going to take two questions from Instagram.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: We asked a question on our story yesterday, and it's
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: just a good reminder for everyone that likes the show
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: and supports the free content that you can follow us
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: on all the platforms Instagram, TikTok, podcast, platforms, et cetera.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you a FTTV fan that watches us every day too.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: So I'll pick two for you guys. Here's one Blast
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: from the Past one or Hall of Fame one. What
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: will be the standard for the Hall of Fame pictures?
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: In twenty years, So I guess to blast to the
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: future technically, And the question was also posted to Ken
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Rosendal on Fair Territory Yesterday. Todd Father, because they're like
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: a lot of those benchmarks that you see for pictures
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: are just not going to be the same as we
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: move forward, and guys don't go as deep into games
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: forget wins. We're even looking now at you know, innings,
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of different numbers that are just not going
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: to add up.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: So what do you think I would say for starters
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: one hundred innings? No, I'm just a kidding. I don't know.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: That's a really good question. I mean, I mean, what's
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: what's Cratzy would know more about this than me. Man,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: he's the numbers guy. Are you guys in the numbers guy?
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: I go on item yeah, e R R R right,
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: plus big one. I don't know what the plus is,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: but I go with era. You know, strikeouts I think
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: is another big one.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: And wins.
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: For me, nothing's going to change. Nothing's going to change.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: We don't have the standard counting numbers. But they look
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: at who who dominated, who dominated for ten plus years
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: in the show. That's what's gonna be Warren's fawn dominated
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: differently than you know, Midnight Train Johnson, who dominated differently
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: than Randy Johnson, Who's gonna's dominating differently than Chris Sale.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Like you sit there and it's whoever dominates their era
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: for a ten plus year span.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: That's a good way to put it. It's stories. We
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: don't have to be obsessed with numbers. I kind of
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: like that. Yeah. The other question was if the Mets
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: are gonna pursue Dylan Cees that we had picked out
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: from this group, And I'll say yes, but they're not
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: gonna get him because don't think the Patrick is gonna
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: trade him now. And let's move to the last two
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: minutes of the show to show off new digs top
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Father and Kratz. Our former Yanks get to see what
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: they never were able to expect experience. It's called Four
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Seasons Tampa at the ballpark. They did apparently model it
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: a little bit after a little resort style action, and
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: also input was given by guys like Judge and Garrett Cole. Judge,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: for example, was like, hey, we need the batting cages
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: to be expanded and also inclosed, so we're getting Brian
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: Hoake's best footage here of outside inside weight room. Thoughts
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Todd Father.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: They've always had a good weight room there too. Kratzy,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: you know that this is actually spectacular. I'll be down
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: there in April too, I'll be announcing a game down there.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I'm really excited to go check all this out here.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Hopefully the don't give me a tour, so it'll be fun.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Take some pictures and videos for us. I like the
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: hot tub Cold Tub that were massive and had the
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: massive big screen. So if you want to try and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: distract yourself for a few minutes, cold tub and everything's
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: you know, kind of falling apart for you.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Put a little foul territory on at one so you can,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: you know, stay in there a little longer.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Exactly, quick, Cratsats? What team is it?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, how did you know? How did you know
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: we were gonna be away? The away spring training? Hats
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: spring training we end with the Yanks and with the Yanks.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: Hat h