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One Piece, 625, 629-630 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an unspoiled network podcast. This is some spoiled
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  Speaker 1: covering one piece episodes six twenty five and then skipping
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  Speaker 1: all the fillers to six twenty nine through six point thirty.
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  Speaker 1: But also I was instructed to rewatch the last five
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  Speaker 1: minutes of six twenty eight, so we've got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of ground to cover today, but I think it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a hell of an episode. Welcome to spoil me.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show everyone.
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  Speaker 2: I am Natasha and I'm Flouran. Hello, Hello, g Laurian.
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  Speaker 1: Delighted to see you here today.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for joining me, and it's always a delight
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  Speaker 2: to be here. Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: So why did you choose these episodes? I already know,
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  Speaker 1: but I have to ask you. Why did you choose
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  Speaker 1: these episodes to do a live with me?
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  Speaker 2: And there's a lot like the first one is pretty cool,
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  Speaker 2: and the second one is interesting, and the last one
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  Speaker 2: is alone.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was really like joh okay. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna tell you what happened because I remembered that you
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  Speaker 1: warned me to watch the end of six twenty eight,
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  Speaker 1: but a girl forgot about six twenty five. So I
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  Speaker 1: started watching the end of six twenty eight, and then
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I feel there's stuff I don't remember,
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  Speaker 1: and I went and looked back at the spreadsheet and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit. And because what I thought
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  Speaker 1: when you said watched the end of six twenty eight
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  Speaker 1: was basically like the whole next section is filler, so
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  Speaker 1: we're jumping over that, but you just want to watch
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  Speaker 1: the tail end of the filler. And I didn't get
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  Speaker 1: that part of what was included in this was right
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  Speaker 1: before the filler began. So it was very jarring to
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  Speaker 1: go from like the vibe on the sunny, which is
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  Speaker 1: so chill at that point, to Akge and do Flamingo
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  Speaker 1: and smoker again, because it was just like, oh right,
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  Speaker 1: we hadn't even like finished dealing with this yet, and
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  Speaker 1: like long story short, not even a whole lot happens
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  Speaker 1: in that. It's basically OKG being like stop and dop
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  Speaker 1: fl Mingo being like fine, but I'm still the cool guy,
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  Speaker 1: and AKG telling all the men you never saw me here,
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  Speaker 1: and if you tell anybody, eugh, you know what, I
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  Speaker 1: I don't care never mind, which got me laughing pretty
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  Speaker 1: hard the way he just instantly there's no threat, there's
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  Speaker 1: no follow up. He's just like, do what you want,
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  Speaker 1: and the guy is all being like, no, we won't
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  Speaker 1: say anything. It's fine. Yeah, but yeah, So it's a
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  Speaker 1: it's a weird one. I like, what am I missing
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  Speaker 1: from that one? Because I think you can understand that
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  Speaker 1: I am very concerned with some of the following episodes
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  Speaker 1: that I want to make sure we have time for.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, I'm going to go through it really quick
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  Speaker 1: and make sure that there's you know, oh right, So
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  Speaker 1: this is this is the part where we find out
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing with the factory, and this is the
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  Speaker 1: part where I was like in six twenty eight, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I don't remember us talking about this. So basically,
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  Speaker 1: smile okay, I want to make sure I'm getting this right.
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  Speaker 1: Sad is the compound that makes smile.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Yes, it is like an ence that you need
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  Speaker 2: to do.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, And then smile makes the devil.
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  Speaker 2: Fruits exactly like a Fielder like just called then the smiles,
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  Speaker 2: like the uperficial devil fruits are called smiles.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, because he called he called the the big
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  Speaker 1: goop monster smiley. Mm hm. So I thought there was
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  Speaker 1: a middle thing that you had to do and make
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  Speaker 1: a goop monster that would like eat fruits and then
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  Speaker 1: they would turn into a devil fruit. Do you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? That's what I thought.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we don't know there, We don't know the exact
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  Speaker 2: process of it, but the end is called the end
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  Speaker 2: product is called a smile root or like a smile.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, gotcha all right, because I yeah, I was feeling
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  Speaker 1: like there was a step in there that I was missing.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what That's what it was. It was that
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  Speaker 1: I was getting confused with the fruits and the goop monster,
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  Speaker 1: the axilotel monster. Apologies that you guys can hear a
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  Speaker 1: weird like sound. It is super windy here today and
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  Speaker 1: I've got wind whistling like I'm on the Scottish moors
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  Speaker 1: in a castle. It is really intense out there, so
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  Speaker 1: it is very loud to me. But I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if the mic is picking it up.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I don't think so, Okay, don't have heard anything. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but what what do you like think about this? Because
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  Speaker 2: this is like now the first time that we hear
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  Speaker 2: your devil fruits being made, but we actually don't know
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  Speaker 2: where like the regular dever fruits come from or what
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  Speaker 2: I like, you guess all the.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this, yeah, this, this was my like because I
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  Speaker 1: have had so many questions about what causes regular devil
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  Speaker 1: fruits that the fact we've got a fucking artificial one
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  Speaker 1: now is like I feel like the steps on how
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  Speaker 1: you usually find out information as a viewer are backwards,
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  Speaker 1: because normally the storytelling is like first, I Mike, just
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  Speaker 1: like left did you see that? It just was like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like listening to this rude, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: But it was Normally you find out like the natural
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  Speaker 1: process by which a thing comes to be, and that
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  Speaker 1: is the inspiration for figuring out how to make a
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  Speaker 1: synthetic artificial version of the thing. So for us to
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  Speaker 1: find out that there's a synthetic version before we find
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  Speaker 1: out anything really about the originals, I am. I have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of questions about the way that oda structure stories,
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  Speaker 1: and most of the questions surround do you do this
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  Speaker 1: on purpose to subvert tropes? Or do you just not
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  Speaker 1: really have a good answer for where the real devil
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  Speaker 1: fruits come from yet? And you don't feel like worrying
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  Speaker 1: about it, and you're just gonna busy yourself with something else,
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  Speaker 1: because that's more interesting to you, which I'm not like.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not mad at the fact that we don't know yet.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like I feel like this is done badly.
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  Speaker 1: It just surprises me, and I wouldn't be mad if
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  Speaker 1: it were for him just being like the natural ones.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I'll figure something out in the world building.
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  Speaker 1: I really want to focus on something with a crazy
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  Speaker 1: mad scientists first, which you know.
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  Speaker 2: Fair, Absolutely, I don't know, like I guess that he Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but even if he like like, it doesn't even depend
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  Speaker 2: like if he knows where it's going, then it is
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  Speaker 2: a conscious decision. But is it like that he wants
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  Speaker 2: us to not know, That's what that's my question. Yeah, Fair,
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: Feels like there's no reason not to tell us first
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  Speaker 1: except that he doesn't know. And like I said, if
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't know, it's fine, I'm not like, it's fine,
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  Speaker 1: but I would just like to know just for the
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  Speaker 1: It's sort of Miles and I talked about this when
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  Speaker 1: we were discussing both Miss Born and Suki stag House,
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  Speaker 1: how there are two types of writers. There are the
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  Speaker 1: architects and the gardeners, and the architects have everything pre
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  Speaker 1: planned and in place, and they have it structured very specifically,
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  Speaker 1: and the gardeners just sort of plant stuff and they
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  Speaker 1: let it they see where it goes. And I'm thinking
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  Speaker 1: Oda is way more of a gardener. But it's also
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  Speaker 1: sort of there are so many things in this series
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  Speaker 1: that don't pay off for so long, and it's clearly
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  Speaker 1: like he had the idea a long time before he
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  Speaker 1: follows through with it. But is it that he had
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  Speaker 1: the fully formed idea and just wanted to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: have these other adventures first, or did he just plant
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  Speaker 1: a seed and then was like, I'm going to make
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  Speaker 1: that something eventually, but I'm not worrying about it right now,
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  Speaker 1: do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I would actually say probably like a mix. I
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  Speaker 2: would give him that, you know, like maybe as you
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  Speaker 2: as you said, like Sanderson seems like somebody has like
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  Speaker 2: planned everything out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: God, the SUPI who wrote that books.
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  Speaker 1: Those books, Charlene Harris.
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  Speaker 2: Karlen Harris, that that she maybe is more like the
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  Speaker 2: gardener type, you know, and maybe there's like I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: a sweet middle where Oda lives. I can I could
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  Speaker 2: see that because I know, actually, like we do see
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  Speaker 2: these episodes the some of the pirates that they met
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  Speaker 2: in Sabodi, like we see kid Hawkins and a pool
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  Speaker 2: and actually those were like all in ment by Oda
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  Speaker 2: in well just a week, like because his editor was like,
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  Speaker 2: we need some cool pirates here and he was like
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  Speaker 2: okay and just interesting and they are still around, you know.
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  Speaker 2: It is like like yeah, he created them and now
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  Speaker 2: they're still here.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I wonder like it's because that didn't occur
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  Speaker 1: to me for some reason. I imagine Oda as just
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  Speaker 1: being like the mad scientist guy who is behind all
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  Speaker 1: of this stuff with no restraints put on them or anything.
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  Speaker 1: But they're being a an editor who is just like,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna need to do this. What else has that
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  Speaker 1: happened with? Do you know? Offhand? Like obviously no spoilers,
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  Speaker 1: but because it never occurred to me that there was
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  Speaker 1: somebody just sort of being like, I'm going to order
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  Speaker 1: up three new pirates, please have those ready. That's kind
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  Speaker 1: of crazy as a writer to just have those being
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  Speaker 1: demanded and you just have to kind of inorganically find
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  Speaker 1: a way to fit them into the story just because
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  Speaker 1: it's been decided this is a thing. M So it's
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  Speaker 1: like he's a gardener, but also there's like an invasive
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  Speaker 1: species that he has.
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  Speaker 2: A worker around maybe, but then again he like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he incorporates it, you know, and it does not feel Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know how much power he has to
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  Speaker 2: say no to something. I guess I would guess he has.
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  Speaker 2: On the top of my head, I cannot speak I
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: think of a specific thing, but just like the general,
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: Louvie is one of the favorite characters of the show,
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  Speaker 2: like like and basically he has to be, especially in
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  Speaker 2: the anime, in every episode, and also in the mangahi,
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  Speaker 2: even if it's just for panel or something, Lovie will
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  Speaker 2: be there, you know, like like I feel like those
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  Speaker 2: kind of things because it hips the viewers happy, so
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  Speaker 2: I can get that too.
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  Speaker 1: That also leads me to like wonder exactly why the
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  Speaker 1: editor asked for it, because like they must have focus
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  Speaker 1: groups and stuff that they show episodes too and ask
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  Speaker 1: like what do you want to see next? You know,
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  Speaker 1: that kind of thing. And there's nothing like inherently wrong
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  Speaker 1: with just being like, hey, we're gonna we want you
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  Speaker 1: to add these things. Sometimes if you're an artist and
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  Speaker 1: you are given really specific parameters, it can be helpful.
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  Speaker 2: Weirdly, I don't even know if it was like I
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  Speaker 2: think like they just asked for villains, like because in
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  Speaker 2: this Saba Odi if you remember, there was like no
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  Speaker 2: true villain there, and they were like, it seems like
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  Speaker 2: a little too safe, So can we in crawl with
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  Speaker 2: something that makes it more threatening? And so what that
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  Speaker 2: came up with, like all these different powerful pirates there
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  Speaker 2: that the store Haads actually don't end up fighting on
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  Speaker 2: the island, but they're just like the presence and like
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  Speaker 2: their omens should give the show more.
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  Speaker 1: So let's show dragons.
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  Speaker 2: The villain, Like, yes they are, but they're wanted to be.
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  Speaker 2: They're like obvious at the beginning, and they wanted something
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  Speaker 2: more obvious and more written in the regular time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I guess that's as far as I know. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: an expert on this particular, but that's what I gathered
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  Speaker 2: from reading interviews and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I accept that. Okay, all right, all right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm getting so caught up in.
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  Speaker 2: This before we before we like move on, like again
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  Speaker 2: theorizing just about Cusan, like do you have any furious
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  Speaker 2: on him?
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  Speaker 3: Like that?
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  Speaker 2: What's he up to and where he's going?
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  Speaker 1: No, this is one series where I feel like theorizing
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  Speaker 1: is a joke because nothing goes how I think it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna go. There will be weird elements that are like
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  Speaker 1: affecting people's decisions that I don't know about yet, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And characters are just so bonkers that their motivations. All
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  Speaker 1: think it's like, oh, they want to do this because
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  Speaker 1: of money, and then you meet them and it's just like, no,
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  Speaker 1: she's just obsessed with candy and just wants candy all
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  Speaker 1: the time. That's it. That's her whole motivation is that
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  Speaker 1: she's a candy fiend. And I would never you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's very much like I don't
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  Speaker 1: even try to like suss things out ahead of time
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  Speaker 1: with big players because it just feels like I just
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna lay back and let it walk show
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  Speaker 1: for me, and you show me this weird man walking
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  Speaker 1: down a hallway with a whole pork chop stuck to
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  Speaker 1: his face, and I'll just be like, oh, here's this guy, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Like sure it's fair.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just love to because we don't see him
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  Speaker 2: for the rest of these episodes. So he just sails
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  Speaker 2: off on his penguin. I want one, so bad, like
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  Speaker 2: it looks so chill.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, definitely, and I'm trying to find the spot.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, right because in the middle of this
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  Speaker 1: episode is also the one where Momo turns into a
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  Speaker 1: dragon and he doesn't like his father has apparently not
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  Speaker 1: retained the fact that this is still Momo, even though
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  Speaker 1: he met his son as a dragon and he turned
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  Speaker 1: human and he had to make his son clothes recently
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  Speaker 1: and that doesn't feel like something that you would forget,
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  Speaker 1: but he has. So he turns and sees his son
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  Speaker 1: and it's just like, what the hell is this dragon
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  Speaker 1: doing here? And where is my son? And uh, this
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  Speaker 1: is a whole yeah, the bit here. It's so weird.
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  Speaker 1: Later on, Lufy says something about how you can fly?
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  Speaker 1: You did it? I know you can fly, and Momo
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  Speaker 1: is like, no, I can't, and he has this weird
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  Speaker 1: vision of Dope Flamingo reaching toward him saying what's your name?
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  Speaker 1: And then ah, it's like he's having like a triggered
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  Speaker 1: like flashback episode and he just stops and starts yelling
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  Speaker 1: at Loofy and is like, no, I can't, No, I don't,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. And even if
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  Speaker 1: I could do something like that, I won't and this
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  Speaker 1: like this happens later, but it's just I figure get
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  Speaker 1: Momo out of the way here. Yeah, I am so
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  Speaker 1: curious what this could be because normally when people have
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  Speaker 1: powers in this world, it's either from the Devil Fruit
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  Speaker 1: itself or they train and they open up powers that
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  Speaker 1: by training really hard. And whatever's going on with him here,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's still possible that it's from the Devil
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  Speaker 1: Fruit because like Loofy had to tell him he could
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  Speaker 1: transform back into a human being at will, and he can.
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  Speaker 1: He just didn't know he could do that and didn't try.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe it's something like that where it's something innate
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  Speaker 1: that he just hasn't tapped into yet. But it feels
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  Speaker 1: like doll FILMINGO had something to do with it, which
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  Speaker 1: may be part of the thing being not a real
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  Speaker 1: devil fruit, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, no, like we but the thing is like
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  Speaker 2: the thing if the Devil Fruit happened on Punk Hazard,
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  Speaker 2: like that's where he ate it and Doplomento was not there,
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  Speaker 2: so I mean it could have something could happen before that,
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  Speaker 2: like before they came to Punk Hasard, But yeah, we
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: don't know, like just to talk about these two in general,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: like Kinemon as well. They are looking for like a
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  Speaker 2: third guy, like another one right who's also on Dress Rosa.
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  Speaker 2: And the story goes that they fled from Wano, came
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  Speaker 2: to Dress Rosa and then got split up and Momo
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  Speaker 2: just ended up on the ship and the kinemone went
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  Speaker 2: after Momo and the other guy stayed behind and to
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  Speaker 2: protect them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many there are so many moving parts
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  Speaker 1: at this point in the story.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just wanted to ask you, like, how
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  Speaker 2: do you feel about these two be like these characters
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  Speaker 2: being here, like like they are on the ship, like
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: they're drawling with us for the moment, please, And I
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  Speaker 2: just wanted to like hear your thoughts on that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Like.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mind it's it's mostly because it feels like
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a temporary thing. So I'm just
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: kind of rolling with it, and like you know, it
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  Speaker 1: adds a weird dynamic that I sort of like. I
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  Speaker 1: don't love them as characters. I find them to be
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit they feel like they're very much here
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to serve a particular function in like the comedy of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't the only other thing they really bring
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  Speaker 1: to the table is their abilities and as far as
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: how much they like add to things in general, I
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  Speaker 1: don't really like most of the scenes that they're in
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  Speaker 1: that much. They're not very the first of all, not
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: likable too much. You know, we've got just this sort
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of like creepster vibe coming off and the sun the
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: whole thing with him and just motor boating the ship
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: out of Nami repeatedly. Yes, you guys, I don't why.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, before were already here, right before we people moving.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: One reason I'm also here is to give you a
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: couple of heads up. One of them is that, sadly,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: this next arc that we will be in.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Going to get worse.
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  Speaker 2: There is going to be like an interesting female character
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  Speaker 2: with an interesting outfit, Like the outfit is like the
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: main problem. Oh boy, yeah, you will see, you will
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: see what I mean, just like.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I'm really I'm very curious now, Okay, Like there have
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: been some wild costumes for women in the show already,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: So if you're like, I need to give you a warning,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: it's really got to be kind of crazy.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I hype it too much, but we will see, well,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: we'll see. Yeah, No, but but I get what you
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: see about say about these two. I do like them.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: For like, again, they have some comedic elements to it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like they do kind of like drop
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: some things here and there, like for example, they say
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: also like I'm jumping around a little bit, I'm sorry,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: But they also say, Okay.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: There's like everything is sort of disconnected in this section
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: a little bit because of how so I think that's
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: just going to happen.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They also want to go to Seoul, which is
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: like the island after rests apparently you know so right right,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of like, okay, you want to go
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: there and there, you know, like like something seems to
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: line up really or the question is why even like
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: who are you to Like yeah, I know, yeah, yeah.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: It's sort of weird because I keep like grouping Momo
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: in with all the other kids that got abducted, and
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: like he isn't part of that group. He wound up
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: with them in it by accident, but he's not one
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: of them. So I kept thinking about his father as
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: just like pursuing the lead on his own about their abduction.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: And then we get to see a little bit more
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: on exactly what happened and it's not like that at all.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the like I just everything is very affected
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: by the creepiness factor for the both of them. Like
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: it's just hard to get past with Brooke he is
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: a creep, but he is so fucking funny otherwise, And
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: just purely I cannot get over how every line that
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: comes out of Brooks mouth, you guys, is just absolute
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: pure gold. There's a point where he's like recounting all
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: of the terrifying things about do Flamingo, and then there's
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: just a pause and he goes, I'm scared. It's just
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: like he's like observing from the outside, like, oh, that's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: actually extremely intimidating.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Or.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Where I come from, if you want to be a pervert,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: you have to ask politely first. Those are words to
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: live by. Literally. That is just like, honestly the whole
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: vibe of any sort of kink. And he's not actually
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: honest about this because he asks for pantees shots all
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the time, which without consent, So he's not being polite,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: he's being grossed. But he's just got so much else
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: going for him that I am able to overlook a
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: lot of it. But like this Dad, it's like he
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: is an asshole to everybody who tries to help him.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: At first, when he eventually realizes his mistake, he's like
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: kind of grudging about it, and then as he begins
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: to be a little bit better with the crew, he's
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: still gross with Nami, and once it's time for him
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: to come up with disguises, is like, oh yeah, the
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: women have to wear as little as possible. Oh my god, man,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: can you please? Can you?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: So?
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna give them like a six.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Out of ten fair, No, I'm I totally agree, Like
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: especially with the death I'm gonna say with the boy.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe this is just me think like hoping, but I
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: just feel like a part of it is also like
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: he kind of recognizes that it pieces the odds off,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: you know, and like some when kids can get a
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: reaction out of you, that will do it again. Yeah, true,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: And maybe that's also part of it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's true.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, sorry, where did we stop? We are
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: on the sp.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Because we've jumped back and forth like, no, it's it's
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: not your fault. It's like the way that this has happened.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: It's so this is when us up hears that they
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: can make double fruits and smashes his own hand with
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: a hammer, and he has to has explained to them,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: like all all of the people that are in Kaido's
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: army have this, and just how powerful they are, but
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: also that their abilities are sort of inconsistent and unstable,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: which you don't really get a lot of detail on
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: how that what that means, which I would prefer to
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: not know because I think it's gonna look crazy. So
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I am looking forward to that and then we get
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and I am just gonna screenshare for a second with you.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I know, I know what face is coming up.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Do you know the face and events.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Of see sir? Yes, sir, yes, it's a fucking prod
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: for himself.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, he looks crazy. I need to screenshot this.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it'll even work. Though a lot
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: of screenshotting of like streaming services, it just turns into
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: like a black square. Nope, it worked, nice, note to self, Hulu,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: lets me do it it. But yeah, I just it's
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: just so funny, and like they pretty quickly after being
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: like it's incredible that they can do that, they pretty
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: quickly shift to like, oh, Caesar, just like you know,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: did the thing a little bit further that Vega Punk did,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: so it wasn't really all his idea. He isn't the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: genius that he wants to think he is.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna say I have
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: a soft spot for Caesar. I did work like in
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: a laboratory myself for like three years, just like yeah,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: and it was a great time. And I like science,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: So even though he's like an evil asshole, I don't know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: like I always like the mad scientist trope. That's just
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: something I love, Like, like you will always get me
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: with that, and it's so.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Funny because like you, I am so the opposite where
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: mad scientist trope pops up and I'm usually just like,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: oh boy, this is gonna be rough, like it just
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: bothers me. But Caesar's very much an exception because he's
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: just so he is so like flamboyant in a way
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: that mad scientists don't get to be a lot of
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: the time that I love it. Yes, I'm trying to
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: remember what's the villain's name from Sonic the Hedgehog.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: A robotnic robotnick, Yes, robotic the ead was.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: The one he had.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Like I think of a weird name, like first it
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: was Egghead and then they changed it later to Robotnik
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: at some point.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Really, yeah, robotic is a lot better than egghead.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: What Yeah, but I also maybe that could be also
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: like the German version, because the Germans also like to
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: translate things for no reason.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Wild, but I liked it. Caesar gets Also, I don't
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: know that everybody's like full of his, like has enough
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: of him, Like.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I just yes, it's really weird to see him reduced
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to this state where he's just like sitting on deck
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: taking whatever, like strays he catches on while they're talking.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: He's just over there just being like, y, I forget
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: he's there until all of a sudden he just like
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: chimes in with something. And later on when again jumping
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: ahead a little bit, but uh Dopfelmingo calls them or
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: he picks up because they've been calling. He is like,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: let me know that he's really there, and Caesar like
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: kind of shuffles forward and it's just like hey, I'm
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: so and I just Caesar apologizing instead of just being like, hey,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: get me out of this, what the fuck? Instead he's
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: just like, my bad, I really didn't do the job.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I just found that very very adorable. And then here
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: when they're like, hey, you're not actually that the genius
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: after all, Vega punk is and he yells like, oh really,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not a genius. Well, then you try making sad
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: and see how good you are at it, and just
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: gets punched in the head while kicked by a saugy
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: who's like, uh, you still don't have the common sense
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to keep your fucking mouth shut, and he was just
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: like sorry, but yeah, all of this comes to the
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: point where we have to find the factory where these
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: are being produced and bust it up and cut off
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the supply. And Frankie is very confident that this is
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: not going to be a problem because how small and
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: hidden can you make a factory? I would like to
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: point out, Frankie, there was just like a laboratory that
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: was like hidden in a mountain in like recently that
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: you were in that you did not know was there. Yeah,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: things can be hidden in this world a lot quite easily,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: So you know, maybe just slow your role there on
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: thinking everything is cool and gonna be easy. He literally
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: uses the word easy. So yeah, yeah.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: And I think when when is this when they get
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: the call or like talk with the Flamingo.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Let's see. Oh wait, first, there's a storm that comes
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: up because Kinemon is about to explain that he has
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: the uh what what's the matter?
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, no, like the eyes I remember.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, kinnyone is about to explain that they have a
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: that he has like a friend that's been captured and
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: is being held. And just as he is about to
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: get into this part of the story, this is when
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the storm shows up. We don't really need to go
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: through this. They just managed to like use their abilities
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: to get out of here. And then we have a
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: sort of like montage of Nami and Momo hanging out
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and her teaching him stuff, and you know, it's just
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: such a shame that it all had to be overshadowed
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: by him motor boating her, because this is actually quite adorable,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: and like, if you were not somebody who has kids,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: it can be so like humbling to be around a
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: child and teach them stuff and see how completely they
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: trust you to tell them the truth about stuff and
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: get impressed by things. So I just really really liked this.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I wish that they hadn't like undercut it. Later and
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: we've got the patrol with fucking' oose up in like
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the Samurai Armor where he is making sure that everything
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: is ship shape and nobody is after them. But this
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: episode wraps up with Brooke, Sanji and Kinemon hearing that
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Momo is taking a bath with Robin and them all
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: getting very upset and running in there to like break
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: it up, and then Robin and Nami defending him and
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: being like he's literally a child, but him grinning over
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: her shoulder at them like eh, I'm in her tw
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: and them just being like god, damn it. Such a
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: weird little bit. Yeah, all right, so ahead because I
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: we've got the fillers. Yeah, I really I do want
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: to go back and like watch all the fillers in
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: like you have like a chill day at home, and
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I haven't. Like one of these is titled Loofy Dies
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: at Sea, and I was like, that's a filler episode,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: but you know, obviously he's not dead.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Alarming, Okay, I mean I can send you like a filler.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: It's like, which episodes are fillers?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Like, then yeah, if you're able to do that, that'd
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: be awesome. And then I can just because I watched
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: the fillers the like you known, like two hundred episodes
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: or so, and then I just got I just fell behind.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I think that there was a time where
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: the dogs came in your life.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: And oh yeah, I think you're right all right, So
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: then jump into the end of six twenty eight. This
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: is when the news of do Flamingo's resignation shows up
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: on the front page. But also that there are a
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: lot of new alliances happening and somehow the news has
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: just gotten hold of all of this information and put
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: it out there really quickly. Like a bunch of the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: pirates as well, are just like how do they even
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: know this yet? And I also have that question like
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: is somebody wearing a bug what?
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Which just like a quick question do you think the
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: news is? Is it controlled by the government or like
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: what is the news situation in this world?
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It feels like like based on the
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: way that the camera thing worked at what is the
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the War of the Best that's what the name of,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: where they had like the film of the whole thing
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: for everybody to watch and Buggy kept doing his like propaganda,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: it feels like the government has to have some control
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: over it. It's sort of here's where I land with
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: this is like I think probably they do have control
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: over it, but I almost hope that's not true, just
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: because the government having control over the news is such
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: a trope, but also it's a trope because like that's
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: very very effective and efficient, and if they don't, why
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: don't they? You know, So like I go, I very
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: much go back and forth with like, well, I want
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: to be surprised and for it to not be the
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: thing that I assume. But if it isn't the thing
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: that I assume, you better have a damn good reason
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: because otherwise, you know, So I think I think the
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: government must, like who would know that this was going on?
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: That got away was they announced all of this to
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: do Flamingo's cohorts, I guess because law basically is like
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: they're not my friends, right to their faces. So maybe
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: they went and reported on them because they knew that,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: like people would target Loofy and his crew even more
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: if they knew about this alliance, and they they're hoping
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: to break it up more quickly by doing it that way.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Perhaps could just also be like Smoker and these people,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: like why they don't need to keep the secret, you.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Know, Like, yeah, I just have a hard time imagining
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Smoker talking to the press, but it would be any
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: of his other people.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and with families like I get a beer and
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: they would talk probably.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. So yeah, this is that's that's pretty much
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: the end of this. And and the uh, the people
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: who are like they're they're saying, answer us, your majesty
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: to do Flamingo. He's being called a king and they're saying, like,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: why did you resign from the warlords, Please explain yourself,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: tell us something. And as we like cut from them,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: there's a whole room of transponder snails that are just
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: beta beta, which is very funny to hear all of
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: these guys doing it at the same time. The only
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: one that he actually finally answers is the one from Law,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: which I don't know how I never noticed that the
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: transponder snail from Law is just wearing the same hat
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: as Law. Yeah, I can't believe I never noticed that before.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Like the whole thing with the transponder snails is they
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: all look like the guy's you know, like but I
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: just forget. Yeah, I think that Caesar Clowns had like
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: the big lips or something that he has like there, Yeah,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: it's just very very funny.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just love that they like they call
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: and he picks up the phone, and Loofy also like
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Lufy's and phones. He just has to say something like
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: if somebody has Every time he just has to scream
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: into into the receiver like.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like an old man who's like using the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: internet for the first time and just does not understand
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: how any of this work. Yeah, and fucking Doflmingo once
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: again jumping ahead a little bit, but I'm gonna do it.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Tries to seduce Loofy with the promise of meat, which
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: is so great, and eventually everybody manages to sort of
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: snap Loofy out of it, and he apologizes by saying, sorry, guys,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: he almost had me under his meat spell. And that
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: is officially what I'm calling digmatized from now on, is
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: the meat spell, because that is just like I just
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: love it so much, that's it, baby. Yeah, Lufy is
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: so easy to distract this boy. He needs to keep
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: in mind how he goes so many places where there's
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: so much food that it's even more hilarious whenever he
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: gets seduced by food, because it's like, dude, you get
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: like wined and dined so many places. They have these
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: insane feasts for you, like the whole time that he
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: was with Boa and she was just getting him cartfuls
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: of food. You know, you'll find some food. It'll be fine,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: my guy.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But then they yeah, they talk about like the
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: drop off basically, m then let me finish, just like
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: you see, like they say that all laws as Basically
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: what will happen next is that they will drop off
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Caesar at like an island named green Bit and that
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: is apparently like next to dress Rosa. As we find
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: out later, they also can walk there apparently like overbridge
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: or something, right, and yeah, they do what I think.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I have multiple questions, like what do you think of
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: the plan and what do you think of.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I didn't really know what to think of it until
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: like what Trafalgar Law says, because I think it's Zoro
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: or Sanji that points out, like we agreed to this thing,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: but we didn't set any limits on how many people
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: he can bring with him, And Trafalgar Law is like, well, yeah,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: that actually might work in our favor because if he
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: overloads his dudes at the drop off, then there will
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: be few of them at the factory, so it'll be
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: easy for easier for us to get in there. But
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: my thing is that do Flamingo has seemed to be
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: pretty smart, and I don't feel like he's gonna get
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: got that easily. And also this is all depending on
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: you finding where the factory is by the time of
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: the draw off, which you don't actually have any clues.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like so that's a big if. So
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: it's like, it's not a bad plan if other things
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: wind up falling into place for it. But it feels
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: like they're treating it like a fully formed plan already,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: and it's not. There's still many variables that we've got
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: to deal with, you know, And and how do you
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: set it, Like even if it is a distraction so
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: that some of you can go and handle the factory,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: and even if he takes most of his guys to
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: handle the drop, you still don't know enough about the factory.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: There could still be so many dudes, you know, in
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: there that you still have to deal with. And who
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: goes where? And how well does he know the crew?
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Is he going to notice that there are people missing
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: and kind of want to be like, where's so and so,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: you know, and begin to put together that there's something
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: going on like it just there are many ways in
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: which this could go wrong. So I'm gonna give this
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: plan like a six point five out of ten. Needs work.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: It shows potential, but it needs work.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: There. Yeah, No, I just wanted to ask you about
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: this because I remember actually when I first who okay,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: next next? Head up for you? Now it's it's not
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: it is that this arc is actually going to be
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: the longest that we have been. Oh okay, we will
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: stay on this island for a while, And I did
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: not notice or when I came into this, So I
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: kind of I'm gonna be honest, I kind of get
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: fed up with it at some point because you know,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: like the pacing in this is not necessarily worse than
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: it was before. Of course it's a great swarm piece,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: but this was like like I was just like I
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: have seen like like in real time, like almost two
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: years we have spent here, and I was just like,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: come on, So I just want to give you like
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: because in a rewatch or like looking back at it,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: it is like I can see why it's so long
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: and everything, but just for you to know we will
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: stay here for a while and.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I'll get comfortable.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and now I've got my point that I
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: wanted to make about this.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the second thing I think.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Ah was it about their plant?
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Ah? Yes, Again I've got what the plan was basically
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: because oh oh, because I was like watching this week
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: to week, like literally over multiple months, and at some
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: point I was like, I have no idea what we're
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: really trying to do right now. And again, when you
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: watch it like you will like consume it in a
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: short time, things make more sense, and I was just
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: kind of lost to some point.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: It's so wild to me how this show is so
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: inconsistent about what it decides to like repeat and tell
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: you again and what it doesn't. It will repeat to
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: you shit that happened earlier that same episode, like you
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: like you have already forgotten, but then there'll be shit
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: that's from like literally years back, and they just won't
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: remind you. And it's like, why do you think I
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: needed the one flashback? And you don't think that I
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: need a refresher on who this guy is? Like, it's
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: it when for a show that relies so much on
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: creating filler, it's bananas to me that we're going to
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: have this, like all of these opportunities for Piller that
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: is actually helpful, and we're just gonna kind of squander
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: them and do pointless filler of people going.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, yeah, but the route costs money again,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: and I mean it is it is on one thing,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: a time thing, but also the money. But like what
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: it costs money.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: All you need to do is reuse the footage from
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: an earlier episode. It's not even like you have to
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair, Okay, Now I was thinking more about like, no,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: you don't need to reanimate them.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just really weirdly inconsistent to me because there
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: are so many things that it just feels like we're
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: going over this again. I get it. You know, you've
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: explained this to me. Literally every episode, four episosodes in
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: a row, and then there'll be a character that comes
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: back that I genuinely can't tell if I'm supposed to
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: know who this person is. And it's only because one
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: of y'all in the chat reminds me that I even
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: realize this is somebody that we've met before. And I
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: always feel like you guys are just spending so much
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: time on goofy nothing when you could be smart about
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: it and help me out with keeping track of things.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's just the quality of the filler.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I have no problem with filler and principle, I get
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: the need for it, but like it just feels like
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: there are better ways to do it most of the
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: time than the way they choose to do it in
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: this show. And that's just probably going to be an
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: ongoing thing. Although somebody posted in the discord about how
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: they're doing like the remastering did you see that? Yes,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: And they're going to be like cutting down the Fishman
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Island arc by like thirty percent or something more even
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like half almost yeah, which I
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: can see again, which definitely yeah. I I they also
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: will like reanimate like for Netflix, like the whole one
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: P series from the beginning, and they have like announced
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: that like the first saga, which in the original anime
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: was like fifty episodes, will be like thirty episodes.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: So nice. So they're redoing the whole thing like.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: In animation, yes, also in animation.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Shit, yeah, when is that happening?
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Look it up? But I think like maybe next year, oh.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: My god, Wow, one Piece is having a real moment. Yeah,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I see that fucking like one Piece Amusement Park in
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: our future. Guys. Remember how I like said that should
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: be a thing in like the second episode or whatever
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: it was. I just the way that it's picking up steam.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I feel like this is gonna be. Everybody is so
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: bereft without like Harry Potter to cling to as a
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: fun fandom property anymore because JK. Rowling is a maniac
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: and there's this gap of like whimsical goofy ya characters,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: and I feel like One Piece could sweep that in,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: like sweep into that spot and they could really do
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: something with that.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. I just looked it up.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: They have no like anything official yet, but I think
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: like they announced this like earlier this year, like I
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: mean like in the spring sometimes right right, maybe next year,
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: I would guess, but I don't know, My goodness, you know,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I would say that too. I agree like one piscn
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: like really it has like a lot of wind in
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: its sales at the moment. Use like a pun here,
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: because it is as you said, it has like this,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: It has like this childlike quality child in cloths, but
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: you know, like this wonder is like nonsensical but still
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: like something maybe you can dive deeper, like and dig
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: deeper and find like deeper meanings in it if you
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: want to know that the show can deliver that, if
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: that's what you're looking for, and if you're just looking
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: for like fun time, then it also got you covered.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: So yes, yes, yeah, I think that this is like
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: the sort of the draw for me of covering Supernatural
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: is similar to the need to like fill that Harry
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Potter boyd as well. Obviously that's a very different sort
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: of property, but it's like because that was what Sean
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: and I as like big series that we first covered.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: We covered The Wire before Harry Potter, but we started
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Harry Potter so soon after The Wire and it was
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: so much more long running that I really think of
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: Harry Potter as our first show together. And I it's
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: such a shame to have to give up so much
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: with Harry Potter, and I took it off public feeds
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: and got rid of like a lot of my fandom stuff,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: and I felt really sad because so much of it's
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: stuff that was gifts from listeners, and it's so nice
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: to have things that were fed by people who listened
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: to the show, and it just made me so bummed,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: and I am sort of like hoping that Supernatural can
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: fill that void a little bit as like another really big,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: long running property that has a huge fandom, you know.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: So I just think that we're all looking for that,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: and it's like probably problematic that we're all looking for that,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: like why do we need it? You know? But also
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: let us have this.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: The world's lay there, so yeah, we know why we
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: need it, right exatly, So okay, bags to the episodes.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's okay. One thing I just want to say, Yeah,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: by the way, Harry Potter was why I found you.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: I was like factory working, like summer chop, like super bored,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: and I just typed in Harry Potter podcast and then
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh yeah, so I was literally I
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: had like a whole summer chop where I was allowed
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: to listen to musical podcasts and I listened to everything,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: and like you were like at the last book and
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: I was like only one summer, but I also had
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: like eight hours to fail every day. So yeah, and
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: you made it way more enjoyable. So thank you for.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Yay, And if you guys are listening and you're like,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Harry Potter, you want to become a patron, I believe,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: just the dollar level and you get access to the
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: original episodes. But I took it off public because I
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: was making money off of the advertising and it just
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: felt icky to me to be like profiting off it
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: with her and I saying lots of positive things about
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: JKA and you know, being supportive of the property overall,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: when it's got a lot of problematic elements that I
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: didn't really grasp at the time, and it just does
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: not represent the way that we currently feel. So I
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: didn't want it left out there unattended, so to speak.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: But anyway, okay, so this is this is it. This
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: is the spot where where I can't remember his name,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: says that he wants that really they want to go
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: to Zoo, and uh, Trafalgar is like, that's really convenient.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: After I hand off Caesar and destroy the Smile Factory,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: like we plan, Zoo was going to be the next
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: spot on my trip. And he seems to say this
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: like there's a like he is suspicious of this guy,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: But dude does not seem to have an ulterior motive exactly.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: He just seems to be like pleasantly surprised that this
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: is going to work out so well and I don't
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: know what the deal is there.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and also like he he said first that he
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: wanted to go to Sue, you know, like it was
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: not like trafals, Oh I want to go there. Oh
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: we also need you know, it does not we follow you.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: It is like he said it first, So it's not
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: necessarily like a stock or kind of situation. You know,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just like, why are you so suspicious?
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Law?
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: But maybe that's just how he rolls, because he is
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: definitely you know. So yeah, Kinemon, thank you, thank you
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: that you Him and his son just like pound their
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: heads into the tabletop, these two with their freaking bowing.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: All right, so what do we what do we jump
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: to next?
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Seven walts thing? Yeah, where you surprised, like there's one
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: one candidate on this list that maybe surprised you that.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: There's there's a new person, Diamante. Have we met Diamante before?
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: No, not yet.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: This name didn't bring any bells for me. Is that
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: the warlords though, they have like suits of like card
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: suits for their chairs. And that's where we jump to.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: No, that's what we jumped. But if you go as
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: seen further than you think, we're with the Marines again.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Oh oh okay, gotcha.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Sorry I chumped, Like that is the that is the
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: do Flamingo Pirates that we will come back to are
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: the Flamingo Pirates? I don't even know. I have to
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: look it up.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I thought it. Well, I guess we
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: haven't seen them. Yeah, never mind, but that they have,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: like this suit is so weird.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: The yeah, it looks like the laying cards.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Diamante is the one later on
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: that keeps being like no, no, no, don't say that
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: and then saying, no, you're right. I am a genius,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: which I do enjoy that character. That's fun.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: But we have not met him before, but he really like.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: The most of what happens with this is like at
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: the end of the last of these episodes, so I
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: guess we can wait they get this is The thing
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: about the structure of things sometimes is that you get
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: this first flash and you think that this is when
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: the scene happens, but it's just a quick to you
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: and then it's like way later that the conversation takes.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Place, you know, Yeah, we got mixed up there.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: It's not your fault. Like that's that's what the show does.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: It confuses you. I have this while I'm like recording
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: by myself all the time as well.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, we can't talk about like like the scene
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: if you want to like the.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just go ahead. And because it doesn't really
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: affect other things timing wise.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: No, So we have like the amante and I don't
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: know if he gets the art person's name.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think so, the one that's in the clubs suit.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we get to name yet. But anyway,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: that seemed to be like part of like do Flamingo's
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: circle because what happens is that he entrusted them. No,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: like the amounta with the well the devil fruit with
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: aces devil fruit and I wanted you to ask, like
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: what you think about that?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very confused about this because my assumption is that, see,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: this is the thing that like you brought up in
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: another episode of like what happens to somebody's devil fruit
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: powers when they die, and like Teach comes and steals
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: devil fruit powers after somebody dies. But that's like a
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: special thing that he's able to do that nobody has
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: apparently really heard of before. So does this mean that,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: like if a person with devil fruit powers dies, that
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: the devil fruit is reformed when they die, or is
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: this just like a synthetic devil fruit made with smile
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: that has the same abilities that aces had. I don't
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: know how much they can make the devil fruits with
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: smile to order, like how it because you know, it
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: seems like mostly when people eat devil fruits, they don't
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: know what the power is going to be. They just
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: eat them and they hope that it's something cool and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: sometimes it's fucking not. But it seems like the way
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: he talks about it as being like the source of
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Ace's power, that does not feel synthetic to me. That
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: sounds like he's talking about the thing.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And also Law said before like the synthetic ones
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: are like apparently like unstable. Yeah, so I think it
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: is pretty reasonable to say that they cannot really control
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: what happens. Yeah, so I would guess that it's the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: real one, especially honestly how it's presented. It would be
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: such an Oakie doak when like to us as the viewer,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: if it's Oh no, it's not the real one.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't be like it wouldn't be too bad if
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: it weren't the real one, if the point of it
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: was to make it like, well, we're creating this very
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: tempting lure for Loofy, you know what I mean. But
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: but I really it just you know, there's nobody watching
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: right now for them to try and trick. It seems
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: like this is really the thing and the idea of
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Loofy having Ace's power if you were to eat it.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know how that works, because has have they
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: tried eating more than one devil fruit? Has anybody done that?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: Do we know what happens? Does one power replace another power?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: No? We have the CP nine agents back in any
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: lobby talked about it. Actually that apparently when you eat
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: two devil fruits you explode apparently.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Right right right.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: We have not seen that.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Oh that's funny.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I've not seen that happen. But they're not.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: The CP nine guys were the only ones that explicitly
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: said what would happen. But we have also heard other
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: people say it is not possible to have two at
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: the same time, which why teachers is like so impressive.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe that wind is crazy sounding. My god,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: maybe Loofy can get like teach his ability and somehow
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: absorb I don't know, teachers absorbed it out of the person.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a way to do it
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: out of the fruit without you know what I mean,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: unless you fed it to somebody and then killed them
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: and then absorbed it. Oh my god, Florian, that is
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: like mercenary.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Sir, mm hmm, okay, okay, but I wanted to ask
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: you something like how reasonable you find this lure or
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: like this I'm gonna say, I'm going to completely be
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: honest first time watching and still today today I'm a
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: little bit less. But this would not interest me. I
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe this makes me an awful broader or
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I would be just like, yeah, okay,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: you have his fruit, congrats, Like I would not even
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: say his fruit because it will be like it was
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: not his, like he had this power. Apparently somebody else
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: had it and now you have what Like I would
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: I personally, like me, would not care about it. I
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: can get that people would be having an emotional attachment
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: to it, but that's not me. That's not my personality.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, yeah, it's really like this is something
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: that I tend to run into, not just with this show,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: but a lot of other stuff, where like people have
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: a reaction to a thing that I really have to
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: sort of do a little bit of a somersault to
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: get where they're coming from. And it's not like that
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: they're invalid, it's just so not how I would react
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: that I have to really recontextualize things in my head
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: to understand why they are so upset or they feel
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: like outraged about a thing. And this is one where
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Lufy is so he is so emotional, you know, he
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: really really is. And the way that Ace died and
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: how Loofy like blames himself and everything, I think it
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: would turn into this irrational stew that would make him
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: like perhaps fixate on this thing as like a means
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: of preserving his brother's memory in a way that he
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: isn't able to otherwise. But I don't even know how
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: that would work, like just putting the devil fruit in
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: a box somewhere and holding on to it, Like what
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: good does that do? And if he lets somebody eat it?
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: Who would he? Loofy can be so unpredictable, with like
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: going from being super emotional to then really like cavalier
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: about stuff. So what I'm picturing is Loofy fighting to
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: the like tooth and nail for this fruit on principle
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: getting it, and then somebody who hasn't got any powers
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: being like sure would be cool if I had a
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: devil fruit and Lufy just being like here, you can
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: have this one, and its just being like nothing, you know,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: He's just so all over the place sometimes where it's
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: really like the principle of the thing much more than
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: the practicality of the thing, Like this.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Other person just needed to have shared food with Loofy
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: like an hour earlier, and he would be like, yeah,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: you can have it.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, like it would be somebody he barely even knows,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: and it would be that would be fine because you
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: were a cool guy, you know.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we will see what happens with that. But
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: I like that we can like this and what you
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: said before with the meat, like do Flamingo is he
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: kind of can play some okay characters, like he kind
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: of understands people like what I find. Oh we did
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: not talk about this, but baby five is outside looking
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: for treble. It's like this right weird thing and he like, like,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: we see a lot of characters there. Don't worry again,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: it is a long arc, so you will get to
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: know these characters, so you don't need to know them
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: all right away. But but no one that's an interesting
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Like this travel guy goes after baby five and he's like,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: she says you're too close, and he's like, but but
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: but but but and like and he wants that She says,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: you like it after we say, see the same thing
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: with do Flamingo, But do Flamingo? But I like it.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: So he kind of knows how to not necessarily please people,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: but he just kind of knows what buttons to push
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: or like.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he gets Loofy more than Law gets loofy because
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Low keeps being surprised at the fact that Luvie doesn't
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: take shit seriously. And I'm like, dude, you've had a
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: lot of opportunities to like understand this guy so far,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: and you still insists that he is going to change
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: he is who he is. But but yeah, do Flamingo
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: seems to get it. It's reminded have you read the
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Bastian series. I'm about to get you into another series
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: forgive me, but you should read the Immortal Great Soul series.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: The first book is called Bashian and it's basically like
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: a more grown up, intense version of Cradles. It's the
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: same like magic system that kind of like cultivation magic,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: but it's got this overarching mystery to the world building,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: and the characters are really really well done. And this
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: is a writer who keeps like sub he keeps uh
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: subverting expectations and like being like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: do this trope psych And there's a character in that
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: that is like I'm looking back and be like, oh,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: he had real do Flamingo energy of like, as somebody
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: who's a really good manager knows that you have to
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: appeal to people at the level that they are at
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: in order to get them to cooperate with you, and
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: you have to understand what their strengths and weaknesses are
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: and make good use of them in that capacity, and
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: you have to keep people on your side. And everybody
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: isn't going to all want the same things. Not just
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: giving everybody money is necessarily going to be the thing.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: And do Flamingo seems to be a person who really
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: like manipulates quite well, you know, and to a degree,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: that's just like a good life skill to have and
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: that doesn't have to be manipulation, guys, But like, if
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: you try and stay aware of people and try to
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: like step back from the judgment part part of it,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: because I fall into that where I'll be like, oh
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: my god, they really love like money and fancy purses
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and I will be very But
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: if you can step away from the judgment and just
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: be like, that's what motivates them and understand that, then
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: you can meet them where they're at and relate to
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: them in a way that it might feel disingenuous to
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: you but is actually more effective because it's not all
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: about you.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: You know, absolutely. I also, okay, now this is like
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: do you want to talk about like the do Flamingo
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: site more?
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: Or I feel I don't know what else to say
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: about him because that whole thing, Like I feel like
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: I'm just getting the very beginnings of his deal. I
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: really wish that we had gotten to know him a
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: little bit better before the reveal that he's the joker,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: because I just didn't have much of a reaction to it,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: and I know that he's apparently like kind of a
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: fan favorite character, so evidently other people were like, oh shit,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: and I just didn't have that because you know, he's
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: got a fun design and he can be a real
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: scally wag, but otherwise whatever, you know.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: The first time we heard Choker, like the name Choker
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: was but actually in Saba Odi the auctioning house where
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: the auctions of humans, because apparently also had his fingers
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: in there as wells. Yeah, but the other thing I
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: won't mentioned before were like the Seven Wallods, and we
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: have like a brief scene like the Marines talking about it,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: and we have like ours usual as suspects like me Hawk,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: oh right, the other ones and the newest one I'm
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: not newest one but that we did not know about
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: until now is Buggy. Are you?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Oh my god? One yes and two so excited. I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: miss this guy so much. I just it's so funny
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: how it is with these characters, How like I don't
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: realize I miss somebody until they pop back up again
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh hey, And Buggy is just I
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: love him. He's such a good character. He is so consistent,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: He is such a goon, and the voice actor does
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: such a great job with him, and the animation for
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: him is always fucking like almost psychedelic because of just
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: body parts flying all over the place. I am very
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: excited that he is going to get involved in things
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: again because when he was at h Impelled down, I
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: was like super stoked to have him like low key
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: on Loofy's side, even though not really. And then we
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: departed and he was still out there after the war
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: the best, I think, right, like running free. But I
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: just was like, I guess we'll catch up with him later,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: and it didn't occur to me to wonder what he's
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: been up to for two years, you know. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: so I am. I'm very very excited. I think that
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: he is, like there is rarely going to be a
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: time I think in this show where you pull him
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: out and I'm not going to be clapping my hands
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: and giggling excitedly. Because as soon as he popped up up,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: my face lit up. You should have seen me. I
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god. You know, all these
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: other pirates I'm sure are very tough and intimidating and cool,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: I don't need all that. Yeah, I like the guy.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: I think I think probably we have said this before,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: but I think Oda said that Buggy scenes are like
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: his favorite scenes to like raw or like to write.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: You can feel it, you can feel that he is
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: having such a good time writing this stuff.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: The only other person that I've been like wondering about
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: was Alvida because she took his crew and I can't
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: remember what happened after that when she convinced them to
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: like abandon Buggy.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think we see them actually like reunite, like
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: at the end, like when that before the two year
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: time skip happens. We see them kind of like reunite
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: and everybody of the crease like we searched for you,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: and Alvida is like you abandoned him, Like I mean,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: she made them do it, but she was like.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: Righting, yes, okay, yes, thank you. Yeah, I completely forgot
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: about that. She's such a bitch. I love her. I'm
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: really bummed because it looks like they're gonna do the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: like slim Slim Fruit or whatever it is. And I
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: was just hoping we weren't going to do this, and
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: here we are. Oh well, but it's just so the
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like I don't have a good sense of
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: her character quite yet, and I am I'm feeling a
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: little bit like Oda doesn't seem to know what to
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: do with her. You know. I kind of wish that
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: we got a bit more of her development. But he
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem very interested in female characters, you guys.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he just doesn't. And it is also like he
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: could do more with her, definitely, because I was about
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: to say at the beginning, maybe he did not know
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: how long this whole thing is going to go. And
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: she was like literally the first vial that we had. Yeah,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: so I'm kind of glad that she's around for that,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: you know, but I think maybe Oda himself did like
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: with her in particular, not anything, and it was like, yeah,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: she will be around, and yeah, so okay, we have
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: like ten minutes left, and.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would we were running short of time.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I would like from you to here
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: this next island. We got a glimpse of it the toys,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: what like, this is really what I want to here?
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: What do we expect?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: I am, I'm sure you do? You sick fox? What
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: is this? Oh my god? It was so funny because
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like I watched the episode at my desk while
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: I was eating lunch, and I'm eating and then we
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: get to the toys and I literally like put my
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: fork down and was just like like, oh, it's a
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: look of concern. And then the narrator says something like,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: while it may perplex outsiders, and I was like, yeah,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: it may. Perplex is a great word. Actually, what are
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: we doing? You have like inter racial marriage between women
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: and toys, and they have like half toy offspring, some abomination.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: This is the scariest island they have ever been to.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: This is a nightmarish I do not I am not
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: especially considering this is meant to be a long arc.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have to like figure out how to
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: get used to it, because it is deeply unsettling. You guys,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: how they're animated, and the fact that like some of
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: them they just kind of look like ordinary toys, Like
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: we've got the marionette soldier guy, but then there's like
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: the husband to the human woman, and his parts don't
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: even seem to connect. They seem to sort of float
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: free in this way. That's really it's kind of buggy.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Like.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: What I don't like it. It's like very horror movie
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: feeling for me. You know.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: It definitely has wipes of that, especially like if you
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: have to base this on a country up, not the toys,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: but like the setting, the briefings that we saw. What
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: country would you say is do you have I guess
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: or like an idea?
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: Germany?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Not really there's like a.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Nutcracker sort of energy to a lot of the animation,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't mean like the toys. It was
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: more like this got the food and the dress and
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: the dance how they dance there.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: It's also oh Spain, because there's definitely like what do
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: you call it flamenco dancing? I can't remember what they
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: said about the food, but okay, so Spain. But yeah,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: the toys they have a very like kind of didn't clockwork,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: almost like a Dutch sort of you know.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: What I mean?
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: I can see that. But again it is like, as
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: you said, like kind of creepy because it is Spain,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: is Spain influenced. It's like sunny and like happy in crowths,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: like you know, like it's great, and then also the
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: toys are like happy. They are toys, but they're kind
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: of like you should not be walking and talking and
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: like be in marriage or whatever.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: It makes me so uncomfortable. I swear to God, I look,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna kink shame you want to fuck toys,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: That's a very common thing. People love to toys or
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: a big market in the kink stuff, and you know
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: there's plenty of people in There's a group on Facebook
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: actually that you can It's one of those tag groups
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: that you tag in a comment in response to something,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: and the group is just titled jokes on You I
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Fuck monsters. And so that's sort of the energy that
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: I can't pipe. That is just like a bunch of
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: people with a very specific fetish founded the island and
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: then put out all kinds of ads on various like
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: porn hub websites that were like, are these people not
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: quite wooden and or stuffed enough for you? Because if
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: that's what you're into, you should come and visit us.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: Oh what is saying?
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: Rings?
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: But then he gets tangled up, how do you function?
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: They're well designed for living the life.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I'm just gonna say, first time
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: seeing this, I actually had. I was just so excited
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: because it is so weird and we're so deep into
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: this series and we get like, I'm still like what
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: is going on? And I just loved this. Like every
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: new island that we get to, it's like, what is this?
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: And it is so I love the series for this.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: And it is remarkable how he keeps upping the weirdness quotes.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and honestly, I was kind of like, I want
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: a toy in our ship. It was like gets I
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: was like, get a new crewmate, or get like a
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: pet toy.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I was so fascinated by this whole thing.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell you if it happens or not,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: but just from the get go, I was kind of like,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: but I want one. I want one, though, can we
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: take one home?
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: Oh my god?
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: This is the sort of thing that like, as somebody
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: who has pets that frequently wake them up in the
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: middle of the night, if one of these woke me
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night, I would kill
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: it without hesitation. I wouldn't even think. I would just
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: be so fucking terrified. I would instantly crush it with
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: my hands and then be like, oh what have I done?
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: But it would be my own fault for inviting that
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: into my home. No, absolutely not.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: See that. It's fair. It's fair. I don't know, it's
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: just normally. I also don't do again it's horror, like
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: the dolls in horror movies. I don't like it. But
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: something something about this is I don't know, the whimsy
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: won me over in this get killed in the first
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: ten minutes of the movie. That is what I'm saying.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: I'd see what you mean with it. With the whimsy
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: of it. I feel like it's trying to do that
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: and maybe eventually it will work on me. Also, but
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: just from where I was currently sitting, I definitely felt
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: it was almost like the fact that all the toys
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: are so welcoming and happy, and that the place seems
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: so happy that it's like y'all are brainwashed. Something's wrong here.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: This is fucked up, you know, like my weirdness antenna
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: are already up, and so I start being like, no,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: something about this whole place. There's something wrong here. And
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: also like I guess the if we're having sex with
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: toys and then having weird mixed toy human babies, then
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: I guess toys can just fuck each other and have
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: and give birth to other toys.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: How though, how though, like this doesn't work. I mean,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna ask you straight up what do you toys?
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: In general? How is it like other mate? Are there
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: like just another like race? In quotes? Like what's going
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: on here?
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: Is this another vega punk thing? Because this man seems
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: to have his fingers all over everything, Like it's like
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: we just keep We're like on this weird trail where
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: there's been breadcrumbs dropped, but the bread crumbs are islands
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: filled with weird shit that he's done and just abandoned
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: and moved on. I hope a little bit that it
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: is him, because so much of the stuff that he
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: has done has seemed to be very destructive and terrible
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: that if he made a bunch of like happy living toys,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: this is probably one of the better things he's done.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: So that's a But it's one thing to be able
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: to make robots and stuff, and it's another thing to
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: make robots that can like pro create with humans. I
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: am sorry. I know that this is not something that
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: I need to be worrying about, and that the show
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: is probably not going to go to great lengths to
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: explain the like bodily functions in reproductive systems of these creatures,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: but I can't not be preoccupied with it in my
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: own head. That is wild shit that you introduced out
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: of the gate with his island. You show me a
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: woman and a giant toy man and their stroller with
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: a weird half baby in it. You can't expect me
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: to not like follow the rest of that thought.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's totally fine. Well, I mean, do you
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: have anything else to say about these episodes? Like, I'm
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: just gonna sum up the last part is actually just
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: they find a restaurant and go eating there, and there
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: seems to be like a blind guy that gets a
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: lot of camera time, so he probably will be important
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: maybe who knows.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this guy, it's like he has some ability
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: to tell, maybe by the sound of the ball and
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: the Roulette wheel or something, which color is going to
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: land on. And so everybody starts betting the same as him,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: which means that they are all winning a bunch of money,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: which I didn't think was really how it worked. But
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: I don't really know roulette, and they all are so
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: thankful to him that they give him a portion of
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: their winnings, and he's trying to insist that this is
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: all like, oh, I just happen to have a streak
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: of good luck, but I don't think that's it at all.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: And then you have some real scumbag who decides to
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: lie to a blind man and tell him, no, you
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: lost actually, and nobody is correcting him or stepping in
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: to be like he's lying to you. They're all just
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: watching this blind man get taken for all these worth.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: And the blind man, I thought, was like like understanding
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: that he was being played. But the more the scene
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: went on and the more frustrated, like genuinely frustrated he
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: seemed to get, I was like, oh, maybe not, maybe
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: he really thinks he's losing. And that changed his character
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: for me, because I really went into it thinking he
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: was a very sly sort of con man, and the
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: reaction he has here is like somebody who doesn't have
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: a deceptive bone in their body, you know. So, yeah,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to think of this guy. And
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: the episode like ends with him betting all his money
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: and the other guy betting all his money, and that's
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: where it ends. And it's so weird because this show
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't usually end an episode on characters that are not
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: our guys, except for like the big leaders. Sometimes you
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: know if they're about to like squear off or.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: Something definitely, and it did not really end on him.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: It like ended on the bed like like it was like, yes,
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: I mean no, of course he's involved, but you know
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: it is kind of like okay, but yeah, I know, Lufy, Soro, Sanji, Frankie,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: and Kinemon are all there also in the restaurant, just
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: to make a brook chopper, Nami and Momo under the ship,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: and Luisa, Robin and Trafalga bring Caesar to the meeting point.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: So that's right, right right, lid up right now, by
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: the way, just for the end, can I just I
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: mean you can if you have something else to say,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: of course you can, but just like Trafolga, real quick, law,
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: what are your like thoughts? Haus? Yeah, what you know,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to say no, because this is actually
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: his plan, you know, like like sure he is kind
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: of like became a pretty central figure in the story
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: all of us sudden, well all of a sudden, like
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: we knew him before. But I just wanted to hear,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: like you, what do you like him? Are you interested
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: like in what his deal is?
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: It's sort of weird because like I started off very
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: interested in him, and honestly, a lot of that isn't
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: even the character, it's just because he looks like Daria's friend,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: Jane's brother in the show Daria from MTV. Are you
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: familiar with Trent? Oh yeah, hold on, do you know
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: who I'm talking about?
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: Trent tells me something, yes, but nothing.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: I'm going to uh send you a link so that
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: you can speak, because I just googled him and like, yeah,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: this is definitely the same energy. So for those of
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: you who are not into dudes and who are maybe
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: like way younger in my era when Daria was on television,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: there was Mary, a girl that liked men, that was
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: not crushing on this character. He was like a lot
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: of our like first cartoon crushes because he's just the
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: cool the best friend's cool brother. And it's very much
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: the same kind of like look as what Law has.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: So I was just like predisposed to be like a Law.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: Oh dope, he looks like trend, Like, here's a cool guy.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: But the more that we have spent time around him,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: the more that I'm like, you're kind of boring. Law.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: You have like a lot of a flash to the
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: look that you've got going on, and like your ability
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: is wild, but you yourself are such a straight man.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: He's almost giving sanjy or not Sanji Zoro, where he's
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: like just really it's like borderline irritated with everybody and
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: or bored most of the time, you know. So I'm
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: like wanting there to be more to him because I
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: just feel like You've got so much potential, bruh, and
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: I am not getting what I was hoping to get
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: from you.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we will allow see more, of course, Bop. I
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: just love in these episodes Sanchi makes sandwiches and like
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: everybody is like ignoring Law and then he just streams out,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: but I don't like bread, and it is official orders
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: that Law does not eat bread.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Remember to bring that up, because honestly, that was a
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: big moment for me of just being like what does
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: that mean? That is like you tell me you don't
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: like potatoes also, and I will straight up be like,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: well then you are clearly a psychopath that needs to
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: be locked up.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, but it is so great because it's like
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: the weird side of him that the straw had to
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: bring out. And that's also something that I love it for,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: you know, like I can get it that he Yeah,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: he's kind of like a dreamy boy. Also, I would
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: say for a lot of news, and I can get it.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: He has like this cool wipe to him, you know, yeah,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: he does.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: It's just like there's not a lot of substance behind it.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: To It's like the coolness is all wrapped up in
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: his look and the fact that he's like too cool
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: for school. But uh, there's not a lot about his
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: personality that I find like engaging or I was sort
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: of wanting him to be like, what's the word I want,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: Like a bit of a daredevil, you know what I mean,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: like somebody who was just out here doing like the
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: most dangerous version of whatever, not in the way that
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: Loofy does where it's like he's genuinely unaware of the danger,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: but like somebody who's like an adrenaline junkie and kind
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: of just like gets off on that, you know. And
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: I think that that's also part of like his look.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: I paint all over my hands. I didn't even notice
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: tell I did this, but his look gives me like
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: like early two thousands cool guy in late nineties cool guy,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: where cool guys all have like Pukachell necklaces and drink
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: energy drinks and spiked their hair and did stuff like snowboarding,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: you know, and so I was wanting him to be
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: kind of that type of bro, and uh, he's just not.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. Long, give me some, give me some.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we will have to wait and see.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so all right, I can't believe that, like we
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: really didn't talk about absolutely everything.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: But oh it's okay. And again, as I said, this
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: is like, especially in this last last episode, we will
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: be here for a while. I hope you don't consider
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: that as a spoiler, but I just wanted you to
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: know because I feel like it makes it more bearable.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: And bearable is like so negative that.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: I get what you mean though, And I don't think
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: of that as a spoiler at all. Definitely not.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah. Yeah, but was there anything else that you
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: maybe wanted to mention about these episodes?
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, because I really think that there
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: were like a couple jokes that I found particularly. Oh
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: oh wait, here's this. There's this like one betrayal of
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: some some less than happy. So there are toys living
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: alongside humans. Oh god, I forgot about the guy with
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: a like toy girlfriend. But there's something where one of
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: the the toys tells Zoro that we have very passionate
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: women and they're the jealous type. If one of them
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: gets cheated on, for example, they things get a little violent.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: And when Zoro says a little, he says, the pretty
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: ones are especially stabby. So yeah, this is definitely giving like, oh,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: the spicy Spanish girls, you know how passionate they are,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: and then you know, chase you down the street with
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: a carving knife screaming at you.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it definitely is that. But I also
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: maybe this is problematic, but it is like a basically
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: trope taken to like it's part of the tradition in
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: this land. And then I'm like kind of like, okay,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: that's kind of like it because it is so crazy,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: you know, like for me at least. Yeah, in the
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: other stretosphere where it's like oh yeah we have like
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: once a year as stepping festival, Like okay, but.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's like a few different things that I know.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: I stopped and like ellow world, and I just I
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: need to like start taking notes and stuff because usually
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: I can go through the episode and be reminded, but
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: sometimes I can't because things don't don't get like they're
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: not in the order that I thought they were in
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: my head, and I need to probably just start like
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: keeping track a little bit better so I can reference stuff.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: I will maybe try to get you an other spreadsheet
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: together with characters for this arc can be helpful. Yeah,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: since it is a longer one, we will have also
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of characters floating around. M Maybe I can
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: get to that. I will try my best.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: No pressure. If you can't do it, I totally get it,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: but it would probably be helpful, So it's welcome if
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: you can. All right, Well, Sarah, thank you so much
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: for joining me. This was very fun.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for having me. It was a lot
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: of fun.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: I hope that you guys enjoyed listening and and just this.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see where we go from here.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: I am very very interested slash concern to see where
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: we go from here. My that was an unspoiled network.