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Who Are They Part 2 · Eye Opener Society

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  I love palindromes. Hello, everybody,
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  and welcome back to the Eye Opener Society. You have me, Hannah.
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  And me, Gary. And welcome to part two of the series.
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  We have Leslie and Stephen returning with us. How are you guys doing?
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  Super. Thank you so much for having us. Thank you very much.
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  Thank you for sticking out with us for two parts for the show.
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  So we appreciate you guys so, so much for doing this. Thank you.
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  Yeah, and we really enjoy having on because, you know, this is my most favorite
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  topic in the entire world.
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  I could sit and do like a 30-hour podcast on this kind of stuff.
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  But I'm just excited because, like I said, I read this book,
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  and it's a fantastic book, and I think you all need to get it.
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  Amazon.com is one place to get it.
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  I'm going to have all the links and all the synopses for the show.
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  So, but Leslie and Stephen Shaw are the authors of who they are and what they're
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  up to. And this is your second part.
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  I think we're going to have them talk about their theory.
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  Right around third chapter or so, right? You guys started talking about the
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  whole theory of what you guys think.
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  So, I'm literally going to turn the microphone over to both of you and explain
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  exactly what you guys wrote and what you guys believe.
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  Well, when we began doing our research, right away, we started seeing that UFO
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  theories and UFO facts were not lining up.
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  There was this theory out that, you know, the tall ones are coming from over
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  there and Alpha Centauri and the Pleiades and they're all coming from all over the place, right?
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  But we determined that they're actually being seen 10,000 times per year worldwide
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  every year, going back hundreds of years maybe, right? Or even thousands.
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  Reported. And so, right, reported sightings are really only about 10% of real sight.
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  So we're seeing them 100,000 times a year.
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  Just the numbers alone were starting to strain credulity that they're coming
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  here from these vast distances.
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  And also the alien abduction phenomenon wasn't lining up with the theories either.
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  The theories were that just aliens were sort of curious about us and they were
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  coming here to to get samples and no big deals for scientific research.
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  But that's not also not what's happening. What we determined was that abductees
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  are taken again and again and again through their lives.
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  And then their children are taken and their grandchildren.
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  Children it's like the aliens are finding a specific
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  strand of dna a strain that they
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  meets their criteria and uh they
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  prey on that family for generations and
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  like what happened with steve's family we we've determined it
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  goes back four generations in his family so far
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  so um we started to
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  have those problems with the theories and we so
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  we pitched the theory when the theories and facts don't line up right you have
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  no choice but to throw the theory out and start over you know and the more we
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  looked into the phenomenon we determined that um they are not coming here from
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  distant star systems they're launching these ufos from terrestrial bases,
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  and uh we've heard tell of many underground hollowed out mountains where and
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  cities underground um there's a lot of ancient lore about people descending
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  underground and and uh you know to to
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  move their entire population underground.
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  And then we saw the Admiral Byrd data. Steve had his diary for many years,
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  and we'd read that, of course.
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  Most people know about the diary, where Admiral Byrd describes meeting a people
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  that live under the ice sheet.
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  They're people that call themselves the Ariani, and they're men.
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  They're tall, blonde, blue-eyed men.
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  The ones that he met, yes. The ones that he met. And then we found out about
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  this Russian documentary that goes into a...
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  It was released in the 80s on Russian television, but the source for this was
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  an intelligence report from the 40s.
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  Apparently, at one point, Admiral Byrd, well, let me back up.
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  In the 30s, Hitler was combing the Queen Maud Land coast, the Antarctic coast, with his U-boats.
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  Yeah, because of the UFO that was found by Mussolini in, like, in 37.
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  Right. So they had a crashed UFO, and so they already knew, At least,
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  you know, they had that information.
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  And then suddenly they were sending all this equipment to Antarctica.
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  Ships with mining equipment and personnel and engineers and huge resources he
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  was deploying to Antarctica.
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  And then, so after the war, U.S. intelligence surmised that there may be a Nazi
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  base under the ice sheet of Antarctica. And they sent Admiral Byrd with Operation High Jump.
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  It was a carrier group, like an armada, to go wipe out the space. That was his task.
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  But when they got there, these squadron of UFOs emerged from the ocean,
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  shot a ray of some kind at the ships, and sank a destroyer and downed half of his aircraft.
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  Killing dozens of men, and then disappearing back in the ocean.
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  Once we started applying admiral bird's
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  uh stories to our ufa our ufo
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  data suddenly it started to click and make
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  sense uh this is why they're seeing thousands upon
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  thousands of time a year they they live here and
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  uh this is why oh and and
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  the abduction phenomenon it's nine out
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  of ten abductees are caucasian and we only
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  make up 16 of the population so what's
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  the big deal why are they after caucasians specifically it
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  made no sense that an alien race coming from a
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  far distance would particularly care which race we are right right but um but
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  if they are a breakaway population of human beings that just happen to be caucasian
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  human beings then they would have all kinds of use for Caucasian genetic material, Caucasian DNA.
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  And we've surmised that they've lived underground for so long that it's possible
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  that they're becoming less viable than they used to be.
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  And that is why they have to take regular infusions of DNA from surface persons.
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  And the same thing is true for the cattle mutilations. We think when they went
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  underground, they took herds of cattle and other domesticated animals with them.
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  And those are also becoming less viable.
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  And that's what the whole cattle mutilation thing. Yeah, let alone the 2,000
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  nuclear detonations we've done since 1945.
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  I mean, subsurface, you know, and air bursts. I mean, obviously it's getting
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  the attention of somebody and it's not a good thing for the planet.
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  You know, one thing that we found is like the two messages we keep on getting
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  all the time is that stop your nukes and take better, uh, better care of the
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  planet, especially the children in Zimbabwe about 30 years ago.
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  Uh, that's, you know, when they met some little grays and they said,
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  you know, telepathically, uh, warned about the destruction of our world.
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  You know you guys are you guys are messing things up you
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  know we live here too so right and
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  this year one of my favorite like you're talking admiral bird
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  i i was so into that story
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  that's one of my favorite you know story because that is operation hot uh high
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  jump i believe it is yes yeah operation high jump and the diary whether people
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  believe that or not because Because reading your book, you went into a lot.
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  President Eisenhower, President Truman, they all knew about aliens and met aliens
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  because of some galactic federation that's going on.
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  And that I sort of believe because we don't really trust the government.
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  At least I know I don't. Oh, no. If they're hiding anything,
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  the government are the people to hide something like this.
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  Right. But in your book, you did say that there was an age of disclosure that
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  was supposed to be coming up, but we didn't want to do that due to the Cold
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  War because we didn't want to, again, we didn't want to give up our nuclear arms.
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  So now aliens are becoming more popular.
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  Like more visible to people and it's becoming released
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  you know more and more even into the mainstream media
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  now yes quite quite easily let's
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  jump in here real quick is that we think now it's us you know human beings that
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  really want to stop the disclosure i think right what we found is that the that
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  the disclosure date has come and gone and because of multiple factors you know
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  for instance, stock markets, religions.
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  We found that out in 1938 with War of the Worlds.
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  We still are fairly xenophobic, so we're, from the standpoint,
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  and also too now with AI, what is faked, what isn't faked?
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  So we've got that going on too, and it's just...
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  We think when they met with Eisenhower that they set a disclosure date for the
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  end of the century that has since come and gone.
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  On and we think that they are trying to kind of force their hand into disclosure
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  for instance the phoenix lights i think the phoenix lights are a good example
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  of this they the ufo began in in nevada crossed over slowly crossed over the
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  entire state of arizona making sure to go over the capital,
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  and uh when's in mexico and and then all the way across the state and entered
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  into mexico and i'm And at the time I was thinking,
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  what is it, the child alien stealing daddy's ship for a joyride or what's going
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  on here? TSA was ticked off.
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  And and since then, we think that that's what crop circles are, too.
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  They're trying to, like, reach out to our scientific community,
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  kind of go around the military and reach out to their scientific community.
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  And it was it was my idea. idea uh when i
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  was in college i read a book by a man named frazier who
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  wrote um he was in the 1800s that
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  it be published and it was uh he had tracked down
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  500 separate cultures around the world that had a flood myth in their most ancient
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  lore and um since then since that time there's been a lot more of them discovered
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  so there's a 1200 separate cultures on this planet with their
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  own Noah story in it's 1200 Noah's right.
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  So we, I started to surmise that probably the great flood really did happen.
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  And then sure enough, about three and a half decades ago, um, um.
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  Nano diamonds were discovered in large quantities in the 13,000-year-old soil.
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  There's a layer of charcoal called the Ucello horizon that spread out over 10
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  countries and four continents, north of the northern hemisphere.
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  And it shows that all the forests were on fire at the same time.
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  That's kind of strange, right? And then 1,100 years above that is soil showing
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  drastic climate upheaval.
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  And at that time period we had a lot
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  of extinction the clovis people were wiped out and the
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  mammoth and the mastodon and the dire wolf and the
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  camel and american camel their pockets as
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  paying hung on for a little bit longer like the giant brown
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  sloth yeah but mostly white a lot of animals wiped out a
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  lot a lot of loss yes and um with
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  the nano diamonds now we knew for a fact what we were
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  dealing with it was a celestial impact event of some
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  kind uh because that's the only way nano diamonds form
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  they uh dust that comes in on meteors or comets or
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  whatever it superheats and forms these tiny little round diamonds and um i have
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  to apologize to you and any other readers out there i thought it was the hiawatha
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  asteroid crater was the cause of this extinction we both did but it turned out
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  later to be uh about 900 miles west on the other 500 miles on the other
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  side of the labrador sea was the younger dryas comet
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  impact zone and uh that one
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  has been dated to the correct time frame 12,850 years i apologize to you readers
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  out there whenever you read the word hiawatha in our book mentally change it
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  to younger dryas comet like i like i say it was still colonel mustard with the
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  knife but it's colonel mustard with the knife not in the kitchen but in the
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  dining room. Yeah, right.
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  There you go. It's basically the same effect. But the thing is,
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  when a comet comes through, which makes even a lot more sense,
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  a comet is basically a dirty snowball.
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  This one was 100 kilometers in size, which is 62 miles.
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  And it's basically a snowball traveling at 40,000 miles an hour with a bunch of rocks.
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  So what it's going to do is it's going to disperse, add a lot more water,
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  and then it's going to cause fires.
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  And break into pieces all over the place and
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  that's really what it was it was i've been thinking this
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  since like 1992 and finally
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  when they finally found this out a couple years ago i says finally i'm vindicated
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  i knew about this 30 years ago yeah you know and so uh the effects would have
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  been much the same uh giant tsunamis worldwide scraping whatever evidence of
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  humanity Humanity was on the surface off.
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  And in my so because I have ancient art history and I'd read Frazier's book,
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  I I surmised that the Great Flood was probably the reason that our race separated in the first place.
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  The branching off of the human race and the breakaway would have taken place 13,000 years ago.
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  And we think that someone on this rock that we call a planet was able to see
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  with advanced astronomy, able to spot this comet coming and warned all the people
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  of the world. That's what a lot of these floodments begin with.
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  They almost all start the same. There was a warning, either from God or God's
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  emissary or a disembodied voice, almost always saying the same thing.
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  Either a horrible flood is coming, you'd better build an ark or go to high ground.
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  Winter like you've never seen before. Or dig in underground.
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  And we think that the human race was more advanced 13,000 years ago than we give them credit for.
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  There's a lot of um artifacts in
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  our ancient past that make no sense in a normal timeline
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  like we slowly advance to the culture we are now uh what happened was is we
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  slowly advanced to a pretty high culture prior to 13 000 years ago and um then
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  that culture was destroyed by the the comet So what we think is that,
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  you know, like the movie Deep Impact,
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  how President Morgan Freeman is warning the world that we're about to have an
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  extinction level event.
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  And they have two plans. One is to send the Hollywood heroes up into space to blow up the asteroid.
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  But plan B was to sink these deep underground cities, take our culture,
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  technology, knowledge, and 50,000 of our best people, and put them down underground.
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  And we think that that's precisely what happened. Well, it's more than 50,000.
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  It would have been on multiple continents.
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  Right, but each continent would have had one of these arcs, one or more of these
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  arcs, right? Right. So we think that that's exactly what happened.
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  And these people went underground and they didn't come back to the surface because
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  of the eleven hundred years of climate upheaval that followed.
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  Yeah, we were pushed back into an ice age, which we had just been coming out of.
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  So, yes, there probably would have been hunting parties and,
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  you know, that kind of stuff. But survive.
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  You know, we also know, too, from our research that there was a genetic bottleneck
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  that happened almost exactly at that time. The surface population was reduced
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  to maybe less than 10,000 individuals at that time.
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  So now with genome mapping and DNA mapping,
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  we know that basically we are have evolved to 8 billion people from a population
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  base of roughly about 10,000,
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  which makes us less genetically diverse than we should be. Yeah. Yes.
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  Very much. We do know that.
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  These old things are starting to click now.
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  We got the data that actually confirms what we've been saying.
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  And I'll tell you one thing that I've always been fascinated with,
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  and this is why I love this theory, because it makes so much sense.
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  How many times did I say, like, when we look at ancient Egypt,
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  you know, or any of these ancient times, the construction, the astrological
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  charting and everything is so precise.
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  And it's you can't think that long ago anybody had that sort of knowledge,
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  but they more than likely did.
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  And so, yes, if these people go underground and live on the ground outside the
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  knowledge of people on the top side, 13,000 years, now they're 13,000 years
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  even further advanced than they were.
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  Than we are. Yes, absolutely. We are now. So this is why I like,
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  because we see so many UFOs, the Tic Tac UFO and all, they're coming from under the oceans.
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  Yes. They're mostly seen by the U.S. Navy over the ocean.
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  So this is a great theory. You say there are underground cities,
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  underground bases or bases in mountains.
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  We see it on Skinwalker Ranch. yeah you
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  know there's so many solidified or
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  at least there's so much um that has
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  been seen and documented right now that it's so hard to ignore whether no matter
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  what you believe it is there's definitely something else i believe on the ground
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  than there is up in space there's so there's so much that corroborates what
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  we have seen and it just makes sense it's like it's like Like the mom theory,
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  like in, you know, in a criminal thing is means opportunity and motive.
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  Okay. And also to, you know, humans, we don't give ourselves enough credit for
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  being extremely adaptable.
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  You know, if you take a culture and sink them below surface within one or two
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  generations, all of a sudden the surface becomes actually the scary place.
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  Right. There's probably a whole bunch of agoraphobes. Yeah. They grow up underground.
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  They're used to the geothermal. They're used to the food. They're used to their
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  society. So, yes. But we think that...
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  So the flood myths almost all begin the same way. They almost all end the same way, too. Yeah.
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  Humanity was about to be wiped out. We're devolving into cannibalism and barbarism,
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  and we're this close from just being gone.
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  When a god shows up, or a god emissary, and brings civilization back to the
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  people, they show up frequently in pantheon families of 12.
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  Uh sometimes not sometimes alone but frequently in pantheons
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  of 12 uh what we think happened was
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  our cousins as we call them because they are a
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  breakaway branch of humanity uh our cousins uh decided that we well we need
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  them still because we need their dna and also they maybe just took pity on our
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  floor slobs on the surface that they left behind to die in droves i think they
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  took Pity on us, came back to the surface,
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  some of them, and that explains these advanced,
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  megalithic structures that the people to whom they are attributed cannot possibly have built.
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  The Great Pyramid is attributed to.
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  Copper tool using people or
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  even bronze they didn't even have bronze and
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  the the great pyramid is lined with rose uh
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  granite and andesite and other places too
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  you cannot if you took a bronze tool and smacked it
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  on a granite boulder all day you'll just wreck
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  the tool it won't do anything to the boulder right
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  right and then there's saxon bond and it's built
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  out of andesite there's 200 hundred ton blocks there
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  all welded together there is no mortar there's nothing
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  between them you can put and andesite's even
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  harder than most granite it's a seven on the
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  most scale whereas granite is between a six and seven so um again impossible
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  so many impossible structures that there's no way our um our bronze age tool
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  using primitive cultures were were doing this we think I think they brought
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  their technology with them,
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  helped us build back into a civilization.
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  And then went back underground where they're more comfortable and happy, I think.
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  Yeah, one part of our book, we have about a chapter, I think,
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  or so, where we basically show just how frequently these extinction-level events, these elves.
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  The comets, the impact craters. They happen a lot more commonly than we've been
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  led to believe. And they may have learned that about living on the surface,
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  that it's just safer underground.
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  No, no tsunamis, no hurricanes, no lightning.
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  Guess what? And guess what? Guess what the billionaires are doing right now?
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  Yeah, building on the ground as well. New Zealand, especially in New Zealand.
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  But, you know, it's like, you know, we know that the aborigines in Australia
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  have been around for at least 50,000 years.
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  But see that's the southern continent yeah they they survived the
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  uh the cataclysm yeah the tsunamis they survived but
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  you know it's like this just you gotta look
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  at what you know what what makes more sense right
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  you know what's common sense and like also too like the necessity for all the
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  cow dna they always take the surface facing eye they take the genitals they
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  take all the blood the sex And they do this not just to cattle, they do it to goats,
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  they do it to the animals of man.
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  Usually the animals of man. There are exceptions.
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  There was a pile of mutilated animals found in Alaska that actually had a killer
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  whale and elk, which are not indigenous to Alaska.
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  But we know for sure about the animals of man. We definitely know about the
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  cattle. Mostly it's that.
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  And let's see did you have any questions on that part well like I said this
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  could be a nine hour show because it's the fascination of it and your guys theories
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  and the way you wrote the book who they are and what they're up to,
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  It's just written in such a way that it's completely believable,
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  especially to skeptics and all, because we're not worried about outer space,
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  time travel, and the differences in atmosphere.
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  Everything makes sense when you're looking at it from a terrestrial standpoint.
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  And we could go on and on about the craft and the government and the reverse engineering and stuff.
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  Stuff but again this is all stuff you could
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  put together but i highly recommend you go and get
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  the book who they are and what they're up to written by leslie and
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  steven shore our guests for these past two episodes and
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  guys i'm going to be in contact with you like more than you think because i'm
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  going to be throwing a lot of theories and a lot of questions out to you and
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  i would love for you to uh listen to um sunset child's out there podcast who's
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  also on our platform i think she'd She'd be fascinated because she's into a lot of this too,
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  and her mind's on a different level than all of ours.
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  And I would love to maybe even have you back again for another episode or even
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  on one of my own spinoff shows. Sure. I have that. Yeah. Love to.
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  You guys are both great. I love you to death. You really, I just,
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  the fact that you reached out to us, I loved it just because this is my favorite topic.
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  So I hope everybody enjoyed who they are and what they're up to. That's the book.
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  The link's going to be in all of the episodes, and it'll also be on our Facebook
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  group page as well. I'll make sure I got that promoted out there.
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  Hannah, don't forget, we got Halloween coming up. We do. We have Anne Lunn coming on.
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  Her podcast is going to drop on Halloween. So excited.
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  Be sure to check that out. Yep. And we also have Elaine from Arcane Oracle.
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  Her episode dropped October 1st. It's the first of every month.
• 25:37
  You know, her tarot, her horoscopes, her readings, phenomenal.
• 25:40
  Gives me chills every time I hear it.
• 25:42
  So make sure to check that out. And of course, Sunset Child.
• 25:46
  Absolutely. And we thank you. And us, of course. Of course. Yeah.
• 25:48
  And of course we have a show too, by the way, but again, we would like to really
• 25:54
  thank our guests, Leslie and Steven Shaw.
• 25:57
  It's been great. And I'm really happy you joined us.
• 26:00
  Yes. The knowledge is fascinating and, you know, it's just so eyeopening and
• 26:03
  you know, what better guest to have on the eye opener society than eye opening.
• 26:07
  Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
• 26:10
  We love it. Thank you so much too. Yeah. And we will see everyone next time.
• 26:14
  Take care. Bye everybody. Thank you.