Latest / Look Who's Talking / Asona McMullen and Amber Anthony - Black Children’s Book Week
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- 0:00I'm Cameron Minter and I am your co-host and our wonderful Head Start director Jessica
- 0:25Coffie is our host.
- 0:28What is going on Jessica?
- 0:29Cam, it's been a minute.
- 0:30It has been a minute.
- 0:31You have been a Naughty little gal.
- 0:32Who?
- 0:33How?
- 0:34You haven't been here.
- 0:35I work here.
- 0:36I'm here all the time.
- 0:37Listen, I've been here for other things.
- 0:38Oh well.
- 0:39Trying to get stuff done.
- 0:40Yeah, you keep doing your job.
- 0:41Okay, okay.
- 0:42Because everybody's job is Head Start, right?
- 0:43If you understand how many gray hairs I have right now, my hair is hers.
- 0:44Hers.
- 0:45It's hers.
- 0:46I understand, I understand.
- 0:47What's going on with you?
- 0:48Listen, I am ready for Thanksgiving.
- 0:49Oh, thank you.
- 0:50I'm ready for Thanksgiving.
- 0:51I'm ready for Thanksgiving.
- 0:52I'm ready for Thanksgiving.
- 0:53I'm ready for Thanksgiving.
- 0:54I'm ready for Thanksgiving.
- 0:55I'm ready for Thanksgiving.
- 0:56Listen, I am ready for Thanksgiving.
- 0:59Oh.
- 1:00Because sis is going to eat a lot.
- 1:03Well, when I go...
- 1:04But guess what?
- 1:05I haven't put my Christmas trees up.
- 1:06Remember that whole debacle last year we were talking about?
- 1:09Yeah.
- 1:10Yeah, I haven't put my Christmas trees up.
- 1:11You know, I won that battle last year with not putting up my Christmas tree until the
- 1:16week of Thanksgiving.
- 1:17And then my entire family was sick.
- 1:20Oh.
- 1:21And so we missed Thanksgiving.
- 1:24Your holiday was not holiday-
- 1:26Christmas.
- 1:27My family was sick.
- 1:28So.
- 1:29That sucks.
- 1:30Well, hopefully this time it's going to be great.
- 1:34Now, this is the first... Well, this is... This show will be airing in January.
- 1:39Yeah.
- 1:40So, yeah.
- 1:41Let's just talk about some food.
- 1:43Oh, well yeah.
- 1:44Oh, what food you going to talk about?
- 1:45Because I'm good.
- 1:46You're good with it.
- 1:47Because I'm always asking things.
- 1:48You are the connoisseur of restaurants.
- 1:51Yes.
- 1:52I'm like...
- 1:53Because I love food.
- 1:54Before I go.
- 1:55I'm asking you.
- 1:56Yeah.
- 1:57Have you been and what's it about?
- 1:59You know, the only reason I'm on TikTok to look up restaurants.
- 2:03My God.
- 2:04Listen, me and-
- 2:05Say it ain't so.
- 2:08The love I have for food is probably... well, an obsession, probably.
- 2:16What?
- 2:17It is.
- 2:18That's a problem.
- 2:19You know, I went to school for nutrition.
- 2:21Oh, yeah.
- 2:22So you're trying to make it match.
- 2:23You're trying to make it-
- 2:24I'm trying to make it match.
- 2:25Trying to make it match.
- 2:26I got you.
- 2:27I got you.
- 2:28That doesn't mean I always tell people the right thing to do.
- 2:30Because sometimes if you're craving something, just have a little bit of it.
- 2:35That's right.
- 2:36There's some self-control.
- 2:37Yeah.
- 2:38Just have a little self-control.
- 2:39Well, that's the problem.
- 2:40Self-control.
- 2:41People usually don't have self-control.
- 2:42But see, you working out.
- 2:43You're back to working out.
- 2:44Oh my gosh, Cameron.
- 2:45I see you doing your thing.
- 2:46Since you're bringing up working out.
- 2:47Uh-oh.
- 2:48My left leg.
- 2:49Uh-oh.
- 2:50It's been hurting me.
- 2:51It doesn't got to you.
- 2:54Oh my gosh.
- 2:55You was being Hercules.
- 2:56Oh my gosh.
- 2:57There needs to be a manuscript.
- 2:58Like, this is what happened when you turned 20.
- 2:59This is what happened when you turned 30.
- 3:00Oh, that's exactly where I was scared to go.
- 3:0140?
- 3:02Mm-hmm.
- 3:03Baby.
- 3:04Yeah.
- 3:05I didn't know.
- 3:06You got your cup of water by the bedside yet?
- 3:07Oh, yeah.
- 3:08Every night.
- 3:09You're fully in.
- 3:10Every night.
- 3:11That's it.
- 3:12Every night I get up about 320.
- 3:13Come on.
- 3:14Not 3 o'clock.
- 3:15Come on.
- 3:16I'm not going to lie.
- 3:17I'm not going to lie.
- 3:18I'm not going to lie.
- 3:19I got up at 320.
- 3:21Come on.
- 3:22Not 3 o'clock.
- 3:23There you go.
- 3:24320.
- 3:25Don't you hate it?
- 3:26To go use the bathroom.
- 3:27Don't you hate it?
- 3:28Then I woke up this morning.
- 3:29Uh-huh.
- 3:30And my leg was hurting.
- 3:31Like.
- 3:32Look.
- 3:33The random.
- 3:34I've already been there.
- 3:35And I can tell you.
- 3:36The random body parts hurting.
- 3:37I think I called my daddy and I said, Daddy.
- 3:40I think I got arthritis in my head.
- 3:42Look.
- 3:43Listen.
- 3:44Listen.
- 3:45Let me tell you.
- 3:46and they don't go away and I go to the doctor
- 3:48and the doctor's like, what caused this?
- 3:51Did you fall?
- 3:52Did you exertion?
- 3:53No, I'm just fat.
- 3:57That's the only thing I say.
- 3:59It's old.
- 4:01I looked up my leg symptoms and I got pariformis.
- 4:06I got pariformis disease.
- 4:08Don't do that, don't be commission.
- 4:10I got it.
- 4:11Don't do that, don't do that.
- 4:12I got something.
- 4:13Don't look up stuff.
- 4:14It's not right.
- 4:15Don't do it.
- 4:15I looked it up and I figured out I need to go to the doctor.
- 4:20Okay, now the doctor's gonna get all your money.
- 4:24True, but guess what?
- 4:26I love my doctor because I be like, girl, my finger hurt
- 4:30and she said, let's take blood.
- 4:31I be like, yes.
- 4:32Wow.
- 4:33I want you to take my blood.
- 4:34It's not right.
- 4:36You're spending that money, great.
- 4:37You're not doing anything if you have not taken my blood.
- 4:41Wow.
- 4:42I really feel that way.
- 4:44You are really in it, okay, all right.
- 4:46I really feel it.
- 4:47I pray.
- 4:48Take my blood.
- 4:49With all of this negativity, I pray that you have a good,
- 4:54good word for us in the Coffie Break.
- 4:57Okay.
- 4:58I think it's time for a Coffie Break.
- 4:59Thank you, Reverend.
- 5:00Okay, so for today's, you know what?
- 5:10It's not a word of the day.
- 5:12It's just a...
- 5:13This is a coffee break.
- 5:14The coffee break.
- 5:15All I wanna say is every day you decide to feel
- 5:20how you feel, how to treat others,
- 5:23and what kind of person you want to be.
- 5:26Your attitude, happiness, and kindness are in your hands.
- 5:31So choose wisely because choices define who you are.
- 5:36Your choices define who you are.
- 5:37Wow.
- 5:39You know, we were having a great conversation yesterday
- 5:42in my office and I'm just so proud of my staff.
- 5:46Okay.
- 5:47They have been so positive.
- 5:49Okay.
- 5:50And it was just like a...
- 5:51You've been getting on me.
- 5:52Don't you come with a negative attitude, neither.
- 5:55Exactly.
- 5:56Because guess what?
- 5:57Like say if I'm having a bad day
- 6:00or came in with an attitude,
- 6:02somehow some way that's gonna affect you.
- 6:05It is, it is.
- 6:06And I think that's important to understand
- 6:08that how we are affects other people.
- 6:12Whether it's good or bad, everybody has bad days,
- 6:15but we can choose to have a good day.
- 6:17You gonna make me put my pastor hat on.
- 6:20Come on.
- 6:20What you got?
- 6:23As Christians, we believe that we are not thermostats.
- 6:26And you know a thermostat would tell you
- 6:28what's going on in the room, right?
- 6:29Yeah.
- 6:30It'll gauge the temperature of the room.
- 6:34No, the thermostat will change the temperature.
- 6:37We're thermostats.
- 6:38We're not thermometers.
- 6:40Thermometers will gauge what's in the room
- 6:42and deal with what's in the room.
- 6:44But a thermostat will change it.
- 6:47When I come into the room, no matter what's going on,
- 6:50my energy is what I want to exert in that place.
- 6:55So I'm gonna be a thermostat instead of a thermometer.
- 6:59Well, I think I'm a thermometer and a thermostat.
- 7:01No, see when you a thermometer, you just come in,
- 7:04you sit down and whatever's going on, you just deal with.
- 7:07Now I'm gauging the temperature
- 7:09and I'm acting accordingly.
- 7:10Wow.
- 7:11Just throw the word, just get here.
- 7:15Just throw it on out the window.
- 7:17Just help us.
- 7:19No, but guess what?
- 7:20We have a great show today.
- 7:22Yes, yes, yes.
- 7:23I am excited about our show.
- 7:25We are talking about books,
- 7:28specifically black children in books.
- 7:32Get those words out, get those words out.
- 7:33I know.
- 7:34There is an exciting week that I was a part of last year.
- 7:39Being able to read books to children.
- 7:41And y'all, I don't like to read.
- 7:44That is something like in elementary school,
- 7:47I struggled with.
- 7:48And even today, I tried to force myself to read.
- 7:52I was more of the,
- 7:55what this worm do if I cut it in half?
- 7:58Give me some dirt.
- 7:59Like science and math were my thing.
- 8:02But I'm excited to introduce us to two amazing ladies.
- 8:10Asana McMullin and Amber Anthony.
- 8:13How are you all?
- 8:14Welcome to the show.
- 8:15Hey.
- 8:17Y'all welcome, welcome, welcome.
- 8:18We're glad that you're here.
- 8:20We're glad we're talking about this topic.
- 8:22And we're just so excited about what you have
- 8:25to bring to the table.
- 8:27Yes, thank you for inviting us.
- 8:28Thank you for having us.
- 8:29So, well, my first question is,
- 8:30how did you all get into developing this week,
- 8:35this, I don't know what you call it.
- 8:39Because it has this movement.
- 8:40Organization, because it has evolved.
- 8:43It has.
- 8:44Over the year.
- 8:45So I'll start, give the backstory,
- 8:47and then let Amber take it from there.
- 8:50I started a book club in 2017.
- 8:54And it was because I loved reading.
- 8:56I'm not like you, I don't want to cut the worms up, right?
- 9:00But I want to read about the worms.
- 9:03And I've always loved reading.
- 9:04But after my aunt passed in 2016,
- 9:07I had a hard time reading.
- 9:08Like I just had a hard time just really escaping
- 9:11and getting back into that.
- 9:12And so I figured, you know,
- 9:14what better way than to be held accountable
- 9:16than to have other people hold me accountable
- 9:18in this book club.
- 9:19So I started up in 2017 and we read a few books,
- 9:23but we weren't able to meet up because people were grown.
- 9:27We just, our schedules are crazy.
- 9:28And so it kind of tinkered off a little bit.
- 9:30And then last year, I saw a lot of chatter about it
- 9:35on social media and book clubs.
- 9:37And I'm like, you know, we're going to give this a try again.
- 9:39And so we started up.
- 9:41We read once, one book a month.
- 9:43We meet up once a month.
- 9:45We have had great turnout in attendance and participation.
- 9:49And so then Amber, you tell your story about.
- 9:53So I see Asana's book club and saw a writer.
- 9:55I'm like, I'm interested.
- 9:57I go to the first two meetings and the third meeting,
- 9:59I'm actually the book club host.
- 10:02And so we hosted at International Book Project.
- 10:04And I had seen Black Children's Book Week
- 10:07being sponsored on Instagram.
- 10:08I kept wondering like, what is this?
- 10:11So kind of looked into it and saw that we could kind of
- 10:13like do our own thing.
- 10:14So I brought it to the book club meeting.
- 10:16I was like, would anyone want to try to take this on with me?
- 10:19And Asana was like, I would.
- 10:21And so we kind of had that mini conversation there.
- 10:23And while having the conversation,
- 10:25the executive director of International Book Project
- 10:28overheard us conversating and offered her space.
- 10:31Oh, wow.
- 10:32And so it literally fruitated in one night.
- 10:33And so we looked at each other.
- 10:35And we were like, OK, we have a space.
- 10:37We have a cause.
- 10:38Let's do it.
- 10:38And so we put our feet down on the ground,
- 10:40started working, started reaching out
- 10:42to different vendors, what we wanted.
- 10:44And we literally put together our inaugural Black Children's
- 10:47Book Week within a three week period of time.
- 10:50You're giving us too much time.
- 10:52Amber, it was like two weeks.
- 10:54So exactly what is it?
- 10:57Exactly what is it?
- 10:58Yeah, so Black Children's Book Week
- 11:01was created by Veronica Chapman.
- 11:05And we do not know her, but she clearly
- 11:08sponsored her post in the right way,
- 11:10because it reached Amber and reached Lexington.
- 11:13And it is a celebration to celebrate
- 11:15black authors and books about black children.
- 11:19It also, Black Baby Books, gives the ease
- 11:22of finding those particular books.
- 11:25So they list those books that you can find them.
- 11:27Because sometimes you'll find that just because a book has
- 11:30featured black children, and that's
- 11:33the prominent character does not necessarily
- 11:35mean that they're all black authored, right?
- 11:37Or even the illustrator.
- 11:38So it's really just a week to promote that in literacy,
- 11:45but also to bring awareness to the low numbers
- 11:49of representation for black children in books.
- 11:52And black authors as well.
- 11:53So only 14.4% of all books feature one black character.
- 11:58And that could be in text or writing.
- 11:59So they could be on the cover of the book
- 12:01and not featured anywhere in the book.
- 12:03And they still count in that 14.4%.
- 12:04Oh, wow.
- 12:05I didn't know that.
- 12:06Even though that 14.4% is still very low.
- 12:09And so that is pretty much the week.
- 12:13And Amber and I both have four-year-olds.
- 12:15And whenever I would go out to book club meetings,
- 12:18my son is always like, mommy, I want to go.
- 12:21I want to go.
- 12:22And so I thought about a toddler book club.
- 12:25So when Amber brought this to us, I'm like, oh, this is
- 12:27perfect.
- 12:29So we celebrated it this year.
- 12:31Well, by the time you all hear this, it will be last year.
- 12:35We celebrated it for the first time in 2024.
- 12:38And we decided that seven days just wasn't enough.
- 12:41There were things that we could do.
- 12:43We had the capacity.
- 12:44We had the reach to elongate this celebration
- 12:47to be a program, an organization where
- 12:50we can place touches into the community more than just
- 12:54that week throughout the year.
- 12:56And luckily, we've been fortunate enough
- 12:59to have great community partners who really actually
- 13:01believe in the power of literacy and representation
- 13:04that that could hold.
- 13:05And we also believe that literacy is what helps
- 13:08children grow empathy.
- 13:09And so without being able to see someone different than you
- 13:12within the pages of a text, it's really
- 13:13hard to build an emotion towards that person
- 13:16and really see them as people.
- 13:17And so luckily, with the help of the International Book
- 13:20Project, with the Carnegie Center here in Lexington,
- 13:23and we've really been able to touch the community
- 13:26on a monthly basis since September.
- 13:29And so in September, we did Family Fun Night
- 13:31with the Carnegie Center.
- 13:32We hosted about 30 families.
- 13:35Yeah.
- 13:36Gave away.
- 13:37We read two books, Change Things by Amanda Gorman and Why Not
- 13:41You by Sierra and Russell Wilson.
- 13:44And each child got to take home that book.
- 13:45Well, each family got to take home most of those books.
- 13:48And we did an interactive and comprehensive activity
- 13:50afterwards.
- 13:51And then in October, we were able to do a spooky story time
- 13:54in Louisville, Kentucky with another nonprofit.
- 13:57And we were able to get Books for Every Child There donated
- 14:00by Carmichael's Bookstore in Louisville.
- 14:02And then we are, well, this will be a pass.
- 14:05So then in November, we are hosting a fireside lawn story,
- 14:11basically, Under the Stars.
- 14:12And we're going to be reading two books
- 14:14and giving each family three books away, two which
- 14:17we're going to be reading, and one extra,
- 14:19along with s'mores and other activities.
- 14:20But community partnership goes a long way.
- 14:23And we've been able to really build bridges
- 14:25within the community when it comes to what we're doing.
- 14:28Now, what age group are you all working with?
- 14:312 to 13 or newborn.
- 14:33Zero.
- 14:34Yeah, zero.
- 14:35The 12, 13 age is what we think is best.
- 14:38Because reading starts in the womb.
- 14:40At least for me, it did in our family.
- 14:43I started reading to my son the moment
- 14:46I found out about him.
- 14:47And he loves books.
- 14:48He thinks books are cool.
- 14:50He loves shopping for books.
- 14:51He asks for books for Christmas and birthdays.
- 14:53And so I feel blessed and lucky that he
- 14:55has this love for books because it opens up the world.
- 15:00And so we really encourage, even if you're little,
- 15:03because just opening the book, touching the book,
- 15:05feeling it, turning the pages, hearing the sound
- 15:08is important for those kids to grasp that at an early age
- 15:11and outside of the classroom and the home.
- 15:14That's great.
- 15:15I'm kind of like Jessica.
- 15:17I wasn't the biggest reader.
- 15:19I read with purpose.
- 15:20If I got something I need to accomplish,
- 15:22that's what I'm reading.
- 15:24But I will remember when I was a child,
- 15:26there was a book that I read.
- 15:27I can't remember the book.
- 15:28But it was the material that interests me as opposed
- 15:32to just having to read.
- 15:34We're going to talk a little bit more about that
- 15:36when we come back from the break.
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- 17:27You are listening to Look Who's Talking,
- 17:30and today's highlight word of the day is literacy.
- 17:38Did you hear what we saying?
- 17:39It was literacy.
- 17:42We silly.
- 17:46We silly.
- 17:46All right.
- 17:48All right, so we, you know, I kind of softballed you
- 17:53into the break talking about the interest in books.
- 17:59You know, you have your reading material at school,
- 18:02and it don't always fit with what I want to understand.
- 18:06So can you talk about some of that with the numbers of?
- 18:14Oh, yeah.
- 18:15Well, let me say this.
- 18:16So I remember when I was a kid, like, there were no books.
- 18:21Like, fun.
- 18:24Yeah, there weren't any representation.
- 18:27I was off of the Burstain Bears because, like, you know.
- 18:32I think the first character black I saw in a book was Tom.
- 18:37Oh, gosh.
- 18:38I know you weren't going to say Tom.
- 18:40So what was it?
- 18:41Snowy Day.
- 18:42Huckleberry.
- 18:44No, he wasn't.
- 18:45I'm not a fan.
- 18:46Yeah, Huckleberry fan.
- 18:47Yeah.
- 18:48Yeah, because.
- 18:48OK.
- 18:49Yeah.
- 18:49Yeah.
- 18:50Thank you.
- 18:50And I was like, wow.
- 18:51OK.
- 18:52And also, why we do what we do?
- 18:54Because that's not the most positive representation.
- 18:56Yeah.
- 18:57Show them.
- 18:57Is that a young black boy?
- 18:58Show them.
- 18:59Exactly.
- 18:59And when it came to when I found out about Black Children's
- 19:04Book Week, that was around the time in Head Start
- 19:07we were given our assessments to our board and our policy
- 19:12council.
- 19:13And we saw that literacy amongst boys, you know,
- 19:18were lower than girls, but specifically the lowest
- 19:22was black boys.
- 19:23Right.
- 19:24And that was something that was concerning.
- 19:28So, you know, after we took that information,
- 19:32our teachers, our education folks,
- 19:35we came and had a meeting and said, hey,
- 19:38how can we change what's happening in the classroom
- 19:41as far as the curriculum that's being taught
- 19:44to help our young little boys be able to read better,
- 19:49comprehend, and bring our literacy or bring their literacy
- 19:53scores up?
- 19:54So, yeah, I think it's important to know the statistics.
- 20:00So getting to that, what are some of the statistics
- 20:04you all have found with black children or, I guess,
- 20:09literacy in general when it comes to Kentucky?
- 20:11Well, before we get into that, I want
- 20:13to say that we have a number of young boys
- 20:15who are in high school.
- 20:17And I think that's something that's
- 20:18really important to know.
- 20:20Well, before we get into the numbers,
- 20:22it was something that you all said regarding you didn't find
- 20:25an interest in books, right?
- 20:26Right.
- 20:27And I think that's first and foremost,
- 20:29it's so pivotal when you're talking about literacy
- 20:31and reading.
- 20:32Because when black boys have these low literacy rates,
- 20:36you have to ask yourself why.
- 20:38Why are they disproportionately not able to read?
- 20:42I think it's because they're not actually in school,
- 20:44because that's where we're seeing that families
- 20:47are reading more, which should be at home.
- 20:49But reopening these books, and they're not seeing themselves.
- 20:54Whether in a physical picture, or just the situation,
- 20:58the text, the culture, the content.
- 21:00It's not something that they can connect to,
- 21:04so then their interest just goes.
- 21:06And I think that's what we're intentional about
- 21:08with black children in books, is having a variety of genres.
- 21:12Because like you said, your first introduction into a black character wasn't the greatest.
- 21:17We don't want to push that.
- 21:19We want to have these children open the books, find themselves positively reflected so they
- 21:25can see who they can be.
- 21:27They can dream.
- 21:28They can go on these adventures with these amazing characters and find something that
- 21:33they like.
- 21:34We may not like the same books.
- 21:35I'm going to tell you all right now, Amber and I do not like the same books, but we love
- 21:40reading.
- 21:41And we will read books.
- 21:42And that's the community within itself, like learning to agree to disagree.
- 21:45I don't have to like what you read, but at least we're still reading.
- 21:47And so we share that time together.
- 21:49Amber, you're an author, is that right?
- 21:51Did you say you was an author?
- 21:52I am not an author.
- 21:53Oh, I'm sorry.
- 21:54Okay, speak it, speak it though.
- 21:57We are very intentional about the books that we put into spaces that we are currently trying
- 22:02to occupy.
- 22:03And so we have a bookcase right now within the Sharp Futures Middle School Barbershop
- 22:08in Takes Creek called Creek Cuts.
- 22:09And so we were very specific about making sure that it was for young boys within the
- 22:13middle school age, but that there was also a plethora of different types.
- 22:17And so, you know, we have representation.
- 22:19Everything that you see highlighted is a black character in a black authored book.
- 22:23But within that case, there are also books for, you know, the white male, the Hispanic
- 22:26male and those experiences.
- 22:28We are understanding that everyone wants to see themselves in books.
- 22:34And so like in inclusivity, being inclusive is important.
- 22:38So we try to honor that and pride ourselves on that because we also know what it's like
- 22:43to not be included.
- 22:44And so we try to be very specific.
- 22:47We don't include.
- 22:48So I cataloged like over 500 books that we currently have in our collection.
- 22:51Oh, wow.
- 22:52And I have highlighted and read the books that are either about like slavery or growing
- 22:56up in a very povers area with rough life or like sexual harassment or, you know, things
- 23:01that are just triggers and that sometimes people don't necessarily always want to be
- 23:04reminded about when they're reading a book.
- 23:07I know for me, when I was younger, reading was an escape and I don't want to escape away
- 23:12from the place that I'm trying to your place.
- 23:14Yeah.
- 23:15Yeah.
- 23:16I want to explore.
- 23:17I landed right back here.
- 23:18Right.
- 23:19Right.
- 23:20So, you know, we want to let them know that they can travel, that they can become chefs,
- 23:22doctors, lawyers.
- 23:23Yeah.
- 23:24It's very important to see yourself outside the scope of just a community that you grow
- 23:28up in on a daily basis.
- 23:29So we try to be very specific.
- 23:31It is funny.
- 23:32Which is why we sorry, which is why we start reading in these programs and these events
- 23:36because we think it's important that you read at home too.
- 23:39Right.
- 23:40Because we understand that school may not be intentional about providing those specific
- 23:44readings.
- 23:45For instance, our bookcases, we have three as of last year.
- 23:48Since this will air, hopefully we will have twice or three times as many.
- 23:52But right now we have been intentional on selecting books that are on the banned book
- 23:56list.
- 23:57Oh, yeah.
- 23:58Because we recognize the value and the importance.
- 24:00If you check out the banned book list, more a significant amount of books are either black
- 24:06authored and or feature prominently feature black characters.
- 24:09So when we're already facing an uphill battle of representation, it just gets harder and
- 24:14harder for us to ensure that they're able to read positive things about themselves.
- 24:20Like Hair Love was one of those books.
- 24:22You remember how that blew up on Facebook because the C1, a black father, hello, we
- 24:27love that.
- 24:28And doing a little girl's hair and it's curly.
- 24:31It's not something that society is an afro.
- 24:34Yeah.
- 24:35And so that's on the banned book list.
- 24:38We have to be.
- 24:39Why?
- 24:40And then you also ask yourself, OK, well, how do we make sure that those are accessible?
- 24:45And I feel like that's really our goal.
- 24:47Like we do.
- 24:48We want the recognition of the community as far as to understand what we're doing, the
- 24:52importance of it.
- 24:53And because everyone this is something that everyone can help with.
- 24:56Just make it.
- 24:57Reading should be accessible for everyone.
- 24:58We should go to Amazon or a bookstore or two cities over to find someone that looks like
- 25:03us on the cover.
- 25:04I mean, and even when you go to bookstores locally here, you don't see it.
- 25:08And so, yes, on our bookcases, those will be the books that are highlighted because
- 25:11those are the books that you cannot find.
- 25:14Wow.
- 25:15I'm still confused about Hair Love.
- 25:16I need to talk to somebody when I saw it on that list.
- 25:18I was like, what's going on here?
- 25:19I was like, you know, I was trying to dress in character with the hair love with the I
- 25:24am enough because like, you know, I don't have children, but I have with two thousand
- 25:30children in the program.
- 25:32But those like there's one classroom in particular center, Russell School, and all the little
- 25:41black girls have their braids and like they're in love with their hair.
- 25:47They're not ashamed.
- 25:49And I can remember me like being like, man, my hair don't look right today.
- 25:53Yeah.
- 25:54Why my mama do my hair like is.
- 25:55It can become a shameful type of character.
- 25:56Yes.
- 25:57And I come in the classroom and I can wear a fro and they'll be like, I like your hair,
- 26:03Miss Jessica.
- 26:04Or, you know, I can wear braids.
- 26:06Now, there was one little girl who said my mama wear a wig, too.
- 26:14But I could it was funny, but it was like, I mean, that's the culture, right?
- 26:18Yeah.
- 26:19Right.
- 26:20So comfortable enough to say absolutely.
- 26:21But I'm also happy that it's on my head.
- 26:23Yes.
- 26:24And just realizing that the diversity because I think we need to talk about that with children.
- 26:31Yeah.
- 26:32Not just tolerating it.
- 26:33We're not just saying these are the differences.
- 26:35We have to celebrate those differences.
- 26:37Those differences have to be positive when we see them.
- 26:41And so we may not see it on TV.
- 26:43We may not have that control, but in the books, they exist.
- 26:46Right.
- 26:47You just have to find them, which is why black children in books.
- 26:50And it's funny because like my granddaughter is experiencing some of this.
- 26:56She's in Scott County and she's at a predominantly white school.
- 27:01And so she comes home singing Taylor Taylor Swift songs and things.
- 27:08And I'm wondering, but there's a disconnect from her culture.
- 27:12And even in her reading material, there's a disconnect from who she is.
- 27:16So she's starting to adapt and assimilate.
- 27:20And so Paw Paw's like, no, so I ordered her some books.
- 27:24And you know, I just, well, yeah, she likes those picture books.
- 27:30Yeah, it doesn't matter.
- 27:33It doesn't.
- 27:34But if you're trying to build your vocabulary and your literacy, it does because I learned
- 27:40that she's struggling on the books that she should be reading because she's looking at
- 27:45pictures.
- 27:46So it has to start there, though.
- 27:47It does.
- 27:48So what we've done now is every night we read a chapter together.
- 27:5215 to 20 minutes.
- 27:53Yes.
- 27:54It's so important.
- 27:55And you know, that's why we let the kids also take home the books, because as much as we
- 27:59want reading to be a passion in the home, we also just want to increase the confidence
- 28:04to read.
- 28:05Because reading out loud is a huge confidence factor.
- 28:07You know, just reading in general is a huge confidence boost.
- 28:11But if you can do that within a group of people, there's no ceiling for you.
- 28:15So I feel like that boosts the confidence not only of the child, but of the parent as
- 28:19well.
- 28:20In my household, my mother is dyslexic and she is like on a seventh grade reading level.
- 28:25And so, you know, there is a certain confidence with parenting that makes you feel like, OK,
- 28:30can I even teach my child?
- 28:31And so, you know, being able to give both the parent and the child a safe space in a
- 28:36book that makes them feel good to read together is just such a beautiful thing.
- 28:40It is.
- 28:41And I just say, parents, please do not be afraid to read that same book over and over
- 28:46and over and over.
- 28:47Reading repetition, OK?
- 28:48Reading repetition increases comprehension.
- 28:49Let's say it together.
- 28:50Reading repetition increases comprehension.
- 28:51So it's not just about reading the words.
- 28:52It's about, did your child understand it?
- 28:53And reading it over and over definitely helps that.
- 28:56And that's an important piece.
- 28:57We have started rewarding our families with hands-on books.
- 29:01And we have also started to give kids books that are really, really helpful.
- 29:06And that's an important piece, we have started rewarding our families with Head Start books
- 29:12for reading.
- 29:13I love that.
- 29:14That's part of what we implemented for them to start, you know, reading books to their
- 29:22children, their children, kind of developing a routine.
- 29:28But also, we, you know, talk with the parents and say, hey, reading, if you have one book,
- 29:36that's fine, but we have a lending library where every week they get a backpack full
- 29:40of books.
- 29:41They take them home, they read the books, come back, and we, you know, switch watch.
- 29:47So getting the parents has been one of, I think, our greatest accomplishments because
- 29:54if you buy the parents in, of course you're going to have the child.
- 29:58Well, what child doesn't want to hang out with mommy and daddy?
- 30:00Yeah.
- 30:01And that's when reading becomes fun because I'm not doing this at school with a teacher
- 30:04who's maybe not connecting with me on a level that I want to be seen at, but at home, you
- 30:10can make it a game.
- 30:11Or at events.
- 30:12Yeah, or anything.
- 30:13You get to get sweet treats.
- 30:14And it's so funny because my granddaughter, she is very autistic, and I told her, I said,
- 30:20you like the picture book, but your imagination is a thousand times better than what they
- 30:26scribbled on here.
- 30:27And so we started the chapter books and she was all reluctant and stuff, and now she's
- 30:31coming to me and it's like, we didn't get to read last night.
- 30:35Let's get in.
- 30:36I'll tell her to paint a picture of what she sees.
- 30:37There are so many books and so many fantastic authors that are very vivid in their explanation
- 30:43of the scene.
- 30:44I mean, you can almost paint it.
- 30:45Oh, yeah.
- 30:46And especially being an author, I mean, I'm sorry, an artist, you know, those things are
- 30:50important.
- 30:51You just have to connect the dots.
- 30:52And I think, you know, to you all, what you're doing with your parents, Amber and I are trying
- 30:56to implement in Black children in books.
- 30:58We want to revitalize the accelerated reader program, but we want to be a little bit more
- 31:03intentional about the way we do it, the partnerships that we have with the organizations here.
- 31:08So we've already begun the workings of that program where we are incentivizing not only
- 31:15the child, but the entire family for reading together.
- 31:18Yeah.
- 31:19And we're really excited about that.
- 31:20And hopefully by the time this airs, we'll have some more details.
- 31:23Oh, good.
- 31:24Find it on our website.
- 31:25It's on our website, it's on our website, it's on our website.
- 31:28And we're excited about that.
- 31:29And do you all have like a book list thing that you share?
- 31:31You know, because when I wanted to and when I when Papa was buying books, he wanted to
- 31:36buy books that expressed our culture.
- 31:39But yeah, we will have those.
- 31:42We will.
- 31:43So yeah, we will have a list of something that we're cultivating.
- 31:45And we are also with our in person event this year.
- 31:50This will be aired right before this, but going to have a black book.
- 31:53And so that is something that we're crucial about.
- 31:55So those books will also be included on that list.
- 31:58But just also letting you all understand the plethora of, you know, small black authors
- 32:02that are out there because they're not all national heads.
- 32:05Exactly.
- 32:06Yeah.
- 32:07People are writing some great books.
- 32:08And so we are actively, you know, trying to recruit all over the nation.
- 32:13Just these small.
- 32:14So if you're hearing this, Black Children's Book Week of Lexington will be March 1st at
- 32:19the Lyric Theater starting at noon, and we are looking for black authors to come and
- 32:27set up at our black book fair because we want these children to be able to go home with
- 32:32tangibles.
- 32:33We want these families to be engaged and we want to get to know you.
- 32:37Oh, yeah.
- 32:38Yeah, I think that's great.
- 32:40That's fantastic.
- 32:41So let us know where we can find you all, where we can get in touch with you.
- 32:48What is your we don't have that yet.
- 32:51No, we do.
- 32:52Oh, OK, let's get it.
- 32:53Yes.
- 32:54Stay ready.
- 32:55Black Children in Books dot org.
- 32:57And you can find us on Instagram, Black Children in Books and Facebook.
- 33:00So right now we are in the process of changing our Facebook name.
- 33:03Facebook is giving us a hard time.
- 33:04So by the time you hear this, I hope it's fixed.
- 33:06If not, it's Black Children's Book Week dash Lexington.
- 33:11But hopefully that's been fixed and it will be Black Children in Books.
- 33:15All right.
- 33:16That sounds like an amazing time, an amazing event.
- 33:21You got something about It's Lit.
- 33:24What is that?
- 33:25That's our slogan.
- 33:26Yeah, in our accelerated reader program.
- 33:28So it's a spin on literature because this is all about literature.
- 33:31It's also a good way to tie into how the kids are talking these days.
- 33:36The modernness of the kids.
- 33:38Yeah, meeting them where they are.
- 33:39I think that's the most important piece is figuring out how we can connect with them.
- 33:43And we thought It's Lit was perfect.
- 33:45We will soon enough have merchandise for sale.
- 33:48Oh yeah.
- 33:49She's talking about the merch.
- 33:50Look, she's not trying to make sales.
- 33:51It's time to go.
- 33:52It's time to go.
- 33:53No, but thank you so much, Asana and Amber for being on today's show.
- 33:58Thank you for having us.
- 34:01A wealth of information.
- 34:02This is good.
- 34:03I like this show.
- 34:04I see us working together, trying to get the same goals accomplished.
- 34:09Absolutely.
- 34:10Absolutely.
- 34:11We look forward to it.
- 34:12All right.
- 34:13Thanks, everyone.
- 34:14That's the show.
- 34:15All right, y'all.
- 34:16Y'all know what to do with that head start word of the day.
- 34:17And we're going to have a nice little prize connected with that.
- 34:18Yep.
- 34:19If you know what to do, do what you do.
- 34:20All right.
- 34:21You have been listening to Look Who's Talking.
- 34:22We'll see you when we see you.
- 34:23Bye, y'all.
- 34:24You know what to do with that head start word of the day.