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Ep. 4 | Part 2 | From Wild Child to Barefoot Guide Living the Way of Natural Movement · Go Wildly Podcast

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Feel like I had a past life in the Southwest.
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Eggs for breakfast in the morning.
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Put fucking avocado on your pizza.
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You just go outside with their shoes on.
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That's all you have to do. We're getting rid of all the
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furniture in your. Home.
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Total Tarzan and discovering the life changing magic of eating
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dinner before 8:00 PM. Welcome to the Go Wildly
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podcast, where the trail or river is our studio and the
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outdoors is where the story all unfolds.
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I'm Heather and I'm Emily. And at the heart of it all is 1
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big question we ask our guests. What is that one pivotal outdoor
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story that changed the course of your life?
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From transformative hikes to river epiphanies and everything
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in between, stories like these remind us how nature shapes who
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we are. So thanks for being here.
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Stick around and together we're. Go wildly.
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Thanks guys. We love you.
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Today on the Go Wildly podcast, we have Diana Mutula, A clinical
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herbalist, certified movement coach, and all around earthy
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powerhouse. She's a Level 3 move Not
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trainer, restorative exercise specialist and ANASM certified
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personal trainer who blends natural movement with herbal
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medicine to help people reconnect with their bodies in
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the wild world around them. In episode 4, Part 2, we're
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going deeper. Diana tells us what a day in her
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life looks like. Cold plunging tea sipping,
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turning off the and how to stop doom scrolling.
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Don't forget to watch our YouTube companion film to this
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episode where we dig deeper with Diana and hike the amazing Bolt
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Mountain in Southern Oregon. Here we go.
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Also adding in those like those pieces that you want people to
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walk away from listening to this being like I learned this from
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this awesome person today. I the 4th question here is very
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much kind of, I think, well, I shouldn't, I shouldn't assume,
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but it says tell me about a place in nature that broke you
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open and then put you back together again.
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Would you consider that the? At the same place, Well, it's
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like the place in nature. I think it is a little
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different. It is the same place, but when I
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was there it also happened to be in Santa Fe, NM.
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I was in new. Mexico.
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That's when I was like, whoa, yeah, the Southwest is.
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Everything it's so cool to. Me and I feel like I had a past
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life in the Southwest in Arizona or New Mexico.
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And so just the landscape there is like the just the desert
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landscape. That high desert landscape
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really speaks to me, feels very spiritual to me.
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And it's got a lot of roots everywhere.
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It kind of does. Yeah.
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Spirituality board where it be like tap.
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In right. And it, it's a place that
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inspires me to do natural movement the most, just like
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with the rocks, the rock formations, the like reddish,
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you know, reddish dirt and sandy trails.
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And maybe it is because I had my Move now Level 3 experience
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there that it is really connected that way.
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They still have. The pine trees there, which
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like, I love our local pine trees too.
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So it feels like it still has elements of home.
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And there are places in Southern Oregon and Eastern Oregon that
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kind of feel southwesty and high deserty.
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But when I was there, it was like the volume was turned up
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like 100. Percent.
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That's so rare. That's awesome.
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Did you have some good food while you were there too?
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So like Santa Fe, like yummy tacos.
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I love. The cuisine there.
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Tacos are probably my absolute favorite food.
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Mine, I think. Mine too.
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I love me some tacos. The amount of responses on
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dating apps. So when the quest the like
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leading question is what's your favorite food?
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90% of people answer tacos. They're not wrong.
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You can do so much with the tacos.
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Yeah, yeah. And they probably say pink
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tacos. Tacos.
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I don't even know if I've ever heard of.
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Vagina. Yeah, terrible you.
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Guys, I this is one of the things I get.
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Made for you homeschool. Class No.
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OK. I was curious because.
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I just don't have a mind that's in the gutter all the time.
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We'll leave it to us. We was one of our first group
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Hangouts. We played this game that was
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like, I don't even remember what it was called, but we pulled a
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card and then the person who pulled the card had to figure
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out who in the group like was that car?
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And somebody pulled has virgin energy.
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And we all agreed to Diana, who's like, who at the time was
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like the one married person in attendance at this.
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Group. Activity.
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When I when you said that, I literally thought of the pickled
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radishes. Yeah.
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And I was like, interesting. Is that what they call tacos
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that have pink radishes? It's salmon and pink radishes
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and pickled red onions. That's a pink Taco.
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Oh. My gosh, this is getting edited
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out right? No, it's great, these.
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Are unedited, undescripted. Shit.
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This is the good shit. But I think it's really valuable
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to demonstrate the juxtaposition between people, between people.
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Even outdoors people where you think they would be little
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freaks. Or.
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You think they're super old? To catch on on what people are
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talking about. I'm also super gullible, so I am
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too. Yeah.
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Like it's still like I don't get when people are joking
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sometimes. I don't either.
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I have to. I, I've had to teach myself to
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stay like just assume people are joking all the time and then
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like, well, it's Sean. Yeah, the specific people that
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are in my movement class, but it doesn't seem to translate to
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like other people. Because it takes time to learn
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that that's how they're. Yeah, that, that's what they're
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bringing into the setting is like, oh, they live in a state
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of sarcasm, whereas I live in a state of.
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Right mind in the gutter. Yeah, dude, Emily's mind's been
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in the gutter since I've known her 6th grade.
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Anyway, OK, I got a good. 1. When people speak your name long
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after you're gone, what do you hope they say about how you
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moved through the wild in the world?
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Well, I want people to first and foremost say that I was like
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encouraging of them and supportive and like inspiring
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and in general all the things that I think of that come to
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mind that makes someone a good coach.
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So like, yeah, I honestly, I really think of myself as like
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I, I guess the coach archetype that is part cheerleader and
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part therapist. Love that.
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And yeah, so I just, I really want to uplift and empower
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people how that relates to the wild.
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I guess I just want the land to witness that I'm doing that in
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my life. Yeah.
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Cool. Are you planning on or kids?
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It's kids in your. Future I do want kids, yes.
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I'm just waiting as long as humanly possible.
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Good for you. To be able to still have them
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naturally. Right.
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Just curious son, because that's like a lot like what I think of
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when I think of that question. I'm like, OK, what do I want my
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kids to kind of take away? But then they're going to have a
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different they're going to have a different perspective than
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somebody like you guys thinking like it passed, you know me and
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then but maybe. Do they have to?
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Like if you're living in your true authentic like aligned self
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and being, then anybody that you are influencing would feel
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empowered and connected to nature.
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I guess I do. The goal is for my kids to feel
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maybe what a friend or an acquaintance would feel from me.
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Does that make sense? Yeah, just curious.
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Same. No, totally.
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I definitely think that's like when we're talking about the
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chapters of the book, it's like I'm getting ready for the mom
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chapter, but I just like the chapter continues.
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This current chapter is still a little bit longer.
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It's like you never know how long the chapter is as you're
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reading it and you flip ahead and it's like, OK, the mom
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chapters up and coming for sure. And so I think about it a lot
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for sure. And I think about like when I'm
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learning about myself and learning about how to be more
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emotionally intelligent and how to be more emotionally and
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physically resilient and all that, those are also things that
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I think about, like how to teach and demonstrate that to kids
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too. Well, they're your biggest
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teacher. Let me tell.
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You that yes. And your biggest student like
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they are absorbing everything that you say do feel.
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And if you I feel like they're also like, I don't know, like
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God creator, like, I don't know what you think, you know, like
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what your beliefs are, but like, like God gave me like my perfect
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challenge that I needed to be presented with.
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I believe that that is how it will go down for sure.
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I believe I've had to accept that though.
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I'm like. Cruise is just a little
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challenging, like I have no idea what to expect.
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And so I feel like it's, it's not the first thing that I think
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of when I think of having kids is like, oh, I'm just going to
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be presented with my perfect challenge.
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I think more of the experiences and adventures that I want to
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have in like, creating family memories and how to ideally,
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like, raise kids that are just like, super resilient and strong
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and compassionate and yeah, outdoorsy.
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Oh yeah. Like.
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Feral. Holy wild, that's my youngest.
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He is just, well, not feral. But like, just wants to be
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outside. He's very, yeah, feral in the
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sense of like through the rewilding perspective.
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If you think of like humans being domesticated, then what we
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have because like really our species is domesticated
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ourselves. And there are still wild humans
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that exist too. Like they Oh yeah, they are here
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on planet Earth with us. They haven't.
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Been eradicated and they're still Indigeneity, right?
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Indigeneity out there, yeah. And like, there's almost a
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subspecies now that we have of like domesticated humans
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actually. And so then what's the antidote
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to that? It's like, you can can try to
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rewild like just being like a feral human is, I think actually
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a really great description of like, if you think of cats and
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you think of a feral cat, like cat that has learned how to
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survive by taking care of itself instead of like needing an owner
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to like provide everything for it.
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And so I like that idea too, to be able to inviting everything.
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Yeah. Like, that's ultimately why my
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husband and I live out in the country, have a homestead, have
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cows and so grow their own food and all that.
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But I have, I also appreciate like, getting to work in town
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and getting to be connected to community more and like the
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feeling of having a village. But I like living in a but a
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town that's not huge. I wouldn't.
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I would never be a city person. What's I'm kind of just, we're
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leaning into lifestyle. What's your like daily routine
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look like? I'm so fascinated by that all
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the time. And that's not on my list.
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But when I listen to podcasts, I want to know about it.
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Yeah, let's talk about it. A.
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Day in the Life of Diana. It looks a little different in
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the summer versus the winter. So yeah, I can tell you about
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what I've been doing recently. Like in the winter time, I've
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been really having some ultimate self-care mornings, which I feel
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really grateful for. So like I don't have an
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elaborate morning routine, but I do take my time because I can,
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because I don't start work until the afternoon at the gym.
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So when I wake up, I very first thing is I try to go get natural
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light, natural sunlight ideally, but sun, sun always out in the
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winter. So, and then grounding, which
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is, it's honestly, it's just the easiest thing.
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You just go outside with no shoes on.
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That's all you have to do in order to get your natural light
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and grounding. And I do it on my way to my cold
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plunge, which I check the temperature of first thing in
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the morning. And then I'll also, like, do a
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little walk next to my cold plunge onto, like, the actual
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grass, because my cold plunge is on some concrete.
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And I just want to, like, feel the actual earth.
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Yeah. Underground grounding.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And then I make tea, come inside and make tea and start a fire in
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my wood stove. Do you have like a little ritual
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around tea at all? Not really.
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I mean other than just like, I just like the same.
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Type of tea, If you are you blending tea or are you do you
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just get sometimes? I do so.
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I used to be very strictly hardcore loose tea, only make my
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own blends. Yeah.
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And I have like Mason jars full of every type of.
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I saw when I came to your house. Yeah.
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Which I've never been to your house with you.
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Right, you've been to my house. And I was like, oh, these herbs.
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Yeah, and I also have some go to tea bags from Yogi Tea that are
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really easy to make. So more recently I've, yeah,
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done both. And then I just, I make the tea
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and I put the mug full of tea on top of the wood stove so it
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stays warm while I go do my cold plunge.
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And then I, I do my cold plunge, which I try to stay in there for
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about 3 minutes. Sometimes it's a little more,
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sometimes it's a little less. And then I come dry off and go
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sit in front of the wood stove and drink my tea and read the
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book either on my Kindle or like a hardcover and wait until my
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body feels warm again. So that usually takes almost 1/2
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an hour. See How many pages do you
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usually get through? I know right?
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I don't know at least a few chapters.
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I don't know how many pages, but like, I do read a lot.
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I love fantasy, I love romanticy and I love any like strong
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female lead, especially that has superpowers and especially that
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becomes a warrior of some kind or is like an assassin type
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person. And then after that, once I'm
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finally warm. Oh, another thing that I've been
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doing recently is I will have started turned on my sonics.
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I have a just a one person infrared sauna at my house,
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which was like one of the best investments that I ever made a
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long time ago. And so I'll have hopefully had
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that ready so that I can get into it once I'm naturally warm
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because I'm trying not to use any external heat sources other
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than, yeah, I'm sitting in front.
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That's what I've heard too with the cold plunge.
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I've been making sure since I'm on back on my cold plunge game
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to like make sure I'm heating up naturally right.
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So one day I did do my Peloton after to help rewarm my body
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body right but or I just am doing stuff.
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One day I did get in the shower and I'm like like I'm using the
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shower but I had to shower to get ready to go.
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Sometimes you can't do it perfectly right.
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So I'll get in this on after. I do just want to say that like
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for people that are interested in starting out cold plunging,
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it's also really helpful to progress gradually.
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Like so I like the way that what the way that I did it was I
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probably started three years ago and I would go in the shower
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first. So I'd take my hot shower and
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then I'd go in my cold plunge afterwards.
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Does that make it less cold? Yeah, 'cause your body's warmer,
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your body temperature is warmer coming out of a hot shower.
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That's what I thought. So it's not going to feel as
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cold, you're not going to get as cold.
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It makes it I could remember easier though to get started.
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Yeah, As a kid, we had a hot tub and a pool, and I used to go
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back and forth, you know, and I couldn't remember which one was
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which of like, which one feels colder, which one feels, you
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know, like which way you go or whatever.
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Hot to cold. Yeah.
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And I was thinking that in my mind when I was setting up the,
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IT just brought it up and yeah, yeah.
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Well, I think going back and forth ultimately is just good
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for people, right? But.
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Like the Scandinavian right type of way or whatever.
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I. Norwegian or.
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What All I know, yeah, I don't know about that as much.
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All I know is if you want to improve your cold tolerance,
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right? If you are someone who has very
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little cold tolerance at first, go ahead and let yourself take a
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hot shower beforehand so that when you get in your cold
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plunge, you it's doable. Like the best they say the best
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workout is one that you do. The best cold plunge is also the
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one that you do. So if you have to go in your hot
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shower 1st and then get in your cold plunge and only stay in for
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a minute if you want to set a realistic expectation.
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So I did that. And then I had luckily kind of a
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mentor, my friend who was just someone I saw on Instagram that
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I decided like because I saw him doing it as like inspired and
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wanted to do it as well. Started posting about it.
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And so after a few months, he messaged me and was like, great,
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now go in before your hot shower instead of after.
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And I was like, oh, shoot, OK, fine.
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Yeah. So I had that encouragement.
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That's great. Switch the order.
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Yeah, somebody to kind of guide you a little bit.
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Yeah, I am one of my first randomly on this topic, like my
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first viral, well more viral picked up I guess from TikTok
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videos is my one of my cold plunge videos from a couple
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years ago. But I was cold plunging in the
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winter that I started in December in Applegate and it was
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so well, no, I originally started in the Illinois.
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I drove out there one day on a snowy funky day and I was like,
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I'm all get in this beach and I was like cold plunging and then
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I then this is closer. I'm not going to drive out to
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Illinois every day. I didn't have a tank or
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anything. And this is kind of before it
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became, I mean it really in the last couple years became real
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popular and trendy, but. Probably due to TikTok and
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stuff. And Joe Rogan does a lot of the
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plunging and he talks about it a ton on his pod.
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But yeah, getting in the Applegate when I first got in my
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cold plunge just three few days ago, for the first time in a
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long time, the one that Emily has let me borrow until I set up
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my that was my cold, My cold. I'm going to do one of those DIY
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chest freezers. Yeah.
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Since I'm a hot water girl. Hot water I was like this is so
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doable. The river in December.
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I it's fucking like I I brought a temp one time and it was like
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4240. Well, you'll get those temps
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here as well, but I think that what the river has is movement
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of the water and current. And like all the complexities
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that you get of nature, the texture, the having to like walk
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out and then slowly lower down and find a little spot.
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And yeah, so. Versus just like Stillwater that
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I can just immediately submerge into and there is no like, Oh
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yeah, let me get my feet wet and then I'm up to my knees and oh,
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it's actually in order for it to be deep enough for me to fully
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submerge, I have to get into the middle of the river.
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So I guess I'll just sit down right here in this moving water
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and hold on really tight to a rock.
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Yeah. Yeah, OK, so after you're
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rounding back after you sauna sesh.
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OK, so after I do want to talk about cold plunging more.
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We will, we will. We have all the rest of the time
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down too. OK, OK, OK.
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After my well, so in the sauna I journal or listen to a guided
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meditation visualization thing. So I do this program called to
22:04
be magnetic. It's like a personal growth.
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I know her practice. And she has a pod.
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She has a pod podcast called Expanded, which is amazing, but
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I also do the program and so there's journal prompts and then
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I did audio tracks that you listen.
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To do you have an app or something with that?
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It's an app it's amazing. It's been that's probably been
22:24
the most powerful life changing personal growth practice that
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I've ever done because that program.
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Oh, absolutely, 100%. I cannot recommend it enough.
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It covers every facet of life. There's courses for love and
22:38
relationship, there's courses for career and money.
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There's some for like everybody is supposed to do the inner
22:47
child one, everyone is supposed to do the shadow one, and then
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there's like challenges that they'll do seasonally and it's
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incredible. She got me signed up on it.
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That's cool. Yeah, I love that.
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So I'll do those and then I get out and take a shower, eat
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brunch. What do you eat at that point?
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What's your go to breakfast? Recently I've been doing so I'm
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gluten free, so I do a gluten free toast.
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It's just like a brown rice bread by Organic Coast Local and
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egg and avocado and goat cheese sandwich.
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How many eggs are you doing? Oh, so I'll do two eggs when
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it's in the sandwich and half an avocado and a scoop of goat
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cheese and two slices of bread and then some salt and paprika.
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But I sometimes also do eggs on my on their own.
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And when I have eggs on their own, I do four eggs.
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And I recommend eggs for breakfast in the morning.
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One of the best breakfasts that you can have if people can
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tolerate eggs. Thank you for that.
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And because there's tolerate eggs, yeah, there's such a great
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source of protein. And I think that you actually
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want. Yes, protein all the way in the
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morning helps regulate blood sugar for the rest of the day
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and goes torture protein goals for muscle building muscle
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today. I was going to enter minute
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fast. Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, that's another strategy too.
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Just felt right today, yeah. Do I feel great into your body?
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Yep I tried that and I've realized that like I'm best if I
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eat breakfast as early as I can get myself to, which is not
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super early like 10 or 11 AM is when I'm eating that's still.
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That's still. A fast.
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Yeah, you know you're not eating it 9 or 8.
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Do you have you looked into or do you do anything around your
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cycles, player cycle? Do you like for?
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Food. Food and exercise and all that
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stuff. For exercise, not for food so
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much. Although I do know that like in
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general throughout the month, if I eat more organ meat I will
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have less painful periods. So if I.
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I'm glad that you said that because I've been eating the
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encapsulated, like liver from that, you know, good company or
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whatever you'd have to take for and they're disgusting.
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But I don't have any cramps today.
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Yeah, the first day of my. Period.
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The more that the more meat that I eat and the more organ meat
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specifically because we have the liver from our cows that we've
25:20
harvested. Awesome.
25:21
Or I will also just buy like chicken hearts from like
25:26
becoming these little tubs from I think it's like Mary's organic
25:30
chickens or something or chicken livers.
25:33
But I like. Grass fed beef, the best for
25:36
organ meat and it's a pretty liver every single day, yeah,
25:41
just like a little piece of liver that's I've had really
25:45
good results with that. I just have to make sure that I
25:47
keep up on it. Yeah, right.
25:49
It's all about the consistency is key.
25:51
Yeah. Communication and consistency.
25:53
Baby light. Yeah.
25:55
And then for movement, I just follow my energy levels, which
26:00
definitely like plummet 2 days before my period.
26:04
I know that my period's coming because I have no energy and I
26:08
just roll with it. And those are yeah.
26:12
And emotional, that'll happen when I'm like actually on my
26:15
period, but a couple days before I know that I just need to like
26:20
set realistic again, set realistic expectations for
26:23
myself because the worst is feeling like you should be doing
26:25
more than you feel actually up for.
26:28
And so those are just restorative days like walking,
26:34
stretching, mobility, maybe a little bit of hanging, a little
26:37
bit of balancing. But and I'll participate to a
26:40
certain extent in move that class.
26:42
If we're doing a workout, I'll demonstrate, but I'm not going
26:45
to push it. I'm gonna probably do a little
26:47
later. That might be my like deload
26:50
week. Are you guys synced up at all?
26:53
I don't. Know I love the phenomenon on
26:55
time ago. Yeah, yeah, you were.
26:58
I was on day one when you said you were having cramps.
27:02
I don't know what day you were on, but.
27:04
If it was having cramps, it's probably day one or two, yeah.
27:07
So I'm on day one right now. Those we got synced up on the
27:13
pattern app yesterday, but we should also sync up on the
27:17
period tracking app. I use Stardust.
27:19
OK, I'm looking for a better period.
27:22
Tracking app. I really like Stardust.
27:25
It gives like daily, almost daily, like insight updates of
27:31
like how you might be feeling today, like based on where
27:34
you're at in your cycle, it'll be like you are super energized
27:38
today. You can take on the world and
27:41
it's like, Oh yeah, you're right, actually.
27:43
I am feeling those by yeah. Or like, time to get ready to be
27:47
a couch potato. And there's nothing wrong with
27:49
that. It's very like affirming and
27:52
assuring of where I'm at and how I'm feeling.
27:55
And sometimes I'm like, I think you're off because doing
27:59
something else. Yeah.
28:01
But certainly there are other influences into energy than just
28:07
the menstrual cycle. But it's very insightful and you
28:11
can sync up with other people so you can see.
28:13
Where the person? Is at on their cycle, yeah.
28:17
Diana, what are you doing after your breakfast?
28:21
Oh, then I finally showered. Well I have probably showered
28:25
and then eat my breakfast so. Then I that was a love tongue.
28:29
Sorry, love. Tongue give me a love tongue I
28:30
think my. Phone.
28:31
Then if I have a little bit of time between then and when I
28:34
have to go to work, I'll just do some chores, get ahead on emails
28:39
with clients, texts with clients.
28:41
There's constant scheduling for personal training or, you know,
28:46
basic domestic household chores, firewood, laundry, dishes.
28:51
And then I drive to work and then I have personal training
28:54
from about 1:00 PM to 6:30 to 7:00 PM.
29:00
Each day are you getting 8 hours of sleep, 9 hours a?
29:03
100% so then I when I got. The Big Sleep Yeah group.
29:08
When I get home, I'm trying to eat dinner as soon as I can.
29:11
When I get home because I try to get I'm trying to eat before
29:13
8:00 PM, yes, which is life changing.
29:16
I'm discovering the life changing magic of eating dinner
29:18
before 8:00 PM. And so then I am winding down
29:25
and I do another good chunk of reading to D to like unwind
29:30
before bed. At least 1/2 an hour of reading.
29:34
And all red lights in the evening too at my house.
29:37
Also all incandescent lights at my house.
29:40
Most similar to sunlight and like the natural light spectrum
29:47
versus LE, DS and definitely no fluorescent lights.
29:51
And your house generally has very dim lighting also, like not
29:55
just incandescent and red, but you don't have a lot of right
29:59
overhead lighting. Everything is very like task
30:02
lighting, dim lighting. It's very conducive for chill
30:07
evening wine down time. It's not like lit up party
30:12
house, it's like you use the natural light for doing those
30:18
things where you need to see things in your house and once
30:21
the sun is gone it's like very camp campsite vibes but inside.
30:27
It's 100. Percent very.
30:29
So do you when do you allow time or do you for, for scrolling,
30:36
for scrolling, when do you find yourself?
30:37
That's when you scroll. And so when you give yourself
30:40
boundaries. Sometimes I do give myself
30:42
boundaries. I was doing really good about
30:46
it. In the morning is when I'm not
30:49
as good sometimes, but so it gets cut off at 11:00 PM.
30:54
So I will maybe scroll from like after dinner to when I am
31:03
getting ready to go to bed. Those not the whole time, but
31:05
like that time might I might scroll, but I do turn my
31:11
Internet off at 11:00 PM and that really really helps.
31:14
My Internet is off yes. Not a big thing.
31:16
Do I stop using my Instagram app?
31:19
I also turn my Internet off and I also turn my phone on airplane
31:23
mode and I also turn my phone to red lighting.
31:27
Cool. So.
31:30
You cannot reach me between 11:00 PM and 8:00 AM.
31:34
And you like? Wake up.
31:35
Yeah. Yes.
31:37
So, so service, do you rely on Wi-Fi or do you have service out
31:41
there a little bit of? Service on your phone.
31:42
I have a little bit of service, but I mostly do rely on Wi-Fi.
31:46
But even if I had my and if I had full service, my phone is
31:50
still on an airplane match. Can reach me in the moment.
31:53
Do you physically you need me? Turn.
31:55
Off and my phones in my living room too, not in my bedroom.
31:58
Do you have to turn off your router?
31:59
Do you physically turn it off or is there a time?
32:01
So I had so timers are a great solution.
32:05
Also, there are timers I've never even heard.
32:07
Yeah, there are timers. A lot of people use them.
32:09
The other good. Solution is like you can.
32:11
Get like outlet. To ours or you can get an outlet
32:13
that has a switch that we used to have this really cool little
32:18
remote that you could just click cool that we would leave on the
32:21
counter top and you just point it at the router.
32:24
But now we have a kind of a complicated setup with different
32:29
parts of our property where we're sending our Wi-Fi to to
32:32
our tenants. And so I do go just to the
32:35
router, but it's pretty easy. There's a button that's easy to
32:38
just, like, tap and it turns it off.
32:41
And then I'm just in the habit of doing it.
32:42
Yeah, my husband turns it on in the morning when he gets up a
32:45
little earlier than me. And.
32:47
Yeah. What time are you getting up in?
32:48
The morning I get up at 8:00, I get up at 8:00 and I'm not an
32:51
early riser, so I get 9 hours of sleep very consistently.
32:58
Yeah, if I go to bed at 11:30, I'll wake up at 8:30.
33:02
That's awesome. If I go to bed, are you a good?
33:04
Sleeper or do you toss and turn? Do you take any?
33:06
Supplements, unless there's noise or someone else moving
33:11
near me. So if I was by myself, I would
33:14
sleep like a log. I'd sleep like this.
33:16
I sit on my back, face up. Nothing moves around me all
33:20
night long. Yeah, sometimes maybe one side
33:22
or the other, but then you. Take any supplements for sleep.
33:27
I do bedtime tea before bed every.
33:30
Magnesium or anything? No, not so much.
33:34
Sometimes we'll take some vitamins, which would include
33:38
stuff like magnesium or, I don't know, whatever vitamins we're
33:42
taking B vitamins, vitamin D3, but like, they're not
33:46
specifically for sleep. The only thing that I'm doing
33:49
for sleep is bedtime tea. Do you take ashwagandha at all?
33:53
Ashwagandha sometimes could make it into the tea blend or could
33:57
take it as a tincture, but it's not like a daily thing.
34:01
But definitely in the tea blend is like skullcap, skullcap.
34:04
I've heard skullcap sometimes chamomile.
34:08
Tulsi is a favorite for bedtime. Any nervous system tea or
34:12
nervine for bed. But it's also more just like a.
34:19
Soothing like ritual. Do you drink more tea than you
34:22
do like water in your water bottle or you just like tea
34:25
Because I just noticed you would this.
34:27
I haven't gotten, yeah, I haven't gone into my water
34:30
bottle yet on this hike, but I I had water this morning.
34:35
I drink a lot of water when I'm at work, but I also do Britney
34:39
formers of tea. Yeah.
34:40
I like to do a cold. I do like a tea cold brew loose
34:44
tea, like just when I'm there's usually hibiscus in it and they
34:47
have like some strawberry cool anyway, and I'm usually totally
34:51
have like and I'd much prefer to drink that than water right,
34:55
like a little bit of a. Bite.
34:57
I like ice water. I have like a Yeti water I don't
35:00
know has a straw and I bring that to work with ice in it.
35:04
So if it has ice in it, I will drink a lot of water.
35:07
Just but I'm a 2. Drink at a time person for sure.
35:10
Like I want my tea and I want my water.
35:12
Sometimes I'll even have a cup of juice or milk as well.
35:17
Or a smoothie. Or a smoothie.
35:18
That'll be a fourth one too. Yeah, I'm a beverage.
35:21
Person I like water if you want to have a plain water.
35:25
Give me a gift plain. Room temperature water, that is
35:29
my beverage of choice. So healthy of you.
35:32
Anytime. Yeah.
35:33
Yeah, that's all I need. Your body.
35:35
Doesn't have to warm it up or get a.
35:36
Kombucha. You know, love me a kombucha.
35:41
I just re upped on my kimchi from I like that big jug from
35:44
Costco. I love that kimchi.
35:46
It's not organic. That's the only like, kind of
35:49
wish it was a little bit more organic, but I love my fermented
35:53
foods. So good, yeah.
35:55
I just got into fermented foods in my.
35:57
How's that doing? How are?
35:59
I so I was on a really restricted diet for several
36:03
years and in the last like since September, since August or
36:08
September, I've been reintegrating every food and
36:14
I've gained weight, I've gotten taller and taller, I've grown
36:19
over an inch, and I believe in a combination of spine
36:25
decompression from hanging and some chiropractic work.
36:30
Over the like. Last year and the year before,
36:33
but mostly from hanging and restorative exercises that have
36:38
like, wow, as I've been decompressing my spine, I'm
36:42
strengthening all the muscles that are supporting my spine.
36:44
So they're staying up so. They're staying up and I've.
36:48
You're like a little muscle least.
36:49
Hundreds of pounds of emotional labor.
36:52
And those shoulders are lighter. My whole body feels lighter and
36:57
stronger even though I've gained 20 lbs in the last.
37:02
Like for two years. Three years when my dad was
37:06
sick, I was 115 lbs and that's what I was for years prior and
37:12
couldn't get above that. Which is really light for five
37:15
being 55. Yeah, I was 5, four and a
37:18
quarter, 115 lbs. And now I'm 56 and 135 lbs and
37:27
I'm stronger, I'm healthier. Like my bowels are happier, my
37:34
whole body feels better, my brain feels better.
37:37
I'm still working on my sleep trauma healing.
37:42
But like that's overall my body and mind are doing so much
37:48
better. And it it feels so good to say,
37:53
yeah, I can eat that. Other than eggs, which I can't
37:57
tolerate, and almonds, which I can't tolerate, I am open to
38:00
eating anything. That's amazing.
38:03
Where it used to be like Nope Nope Nope, can't have that, not
38:07
eating that, not interested in that, scared of that.
38:09
I had a lot of fear around how the food that I was going to eat
38:13
was going to affect me. I ate fucking 3 slices of pizza
38:16
yesterday with bacon on it and cheese and French fries and
38:22
avocado. Love putting avocado on pizza.
38:24
If you do not put avocado on your pizza, put fucking avocado
38:27
on your pizza. I'll.
38:29
Have. To try that, it elevates so
38:32
well. Balsamic.
38:34
Bosomic I had the. Hot.
38:37
Catalyst OG. Oh my God, I'm going free.
38:42
Yeah. It's like.
38:44
It is so freeing to just say, yeah, whatever you make, as long
38:47
as there aren't eggs and almonds in it, you're good.
38:50
I'm going to try it. Just a couple two things.
38:53
That's very reasonable. Where it used to be like,
38:56
actually it's easier to tell you what I can eat because it's a
39:01
shorter list than what I'm not eating.
39:04
Yeah. And now it's Nope, not eating
39:07
two things. Anything else?
39:09
I mean, I don't. I'm still working on my
39:11
relationship with meat. You know what time it is?
39:15
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39:43
Should I finish? My meat thought random thought.
39:45
You can't if you want to. Was that your meat?
39:48
Thought my meat thought is just that right now I like meat as an
39:51
ingredient, not as a main dish. That's my last.
39:56
That's my final thought on meat. Are you eating all types of meat
39:59
now? Yes, not frequently, it's
40:03
primarily still chicken, but like yesterday I had bacon on
40:06
the pizza and. Did Asia make the pizza?
40:09
No, we got it from Catalyst. Cool.
40:12
I mean, I eat a lot of fish and chicken, and I've been eating
40:15
beef jerky almost daily. But other beef and pork items
40:22
are slowly. Like, I'm not necessarily
40:26
choosing them, but if they're there, I'm not rejecting them
40:29
like I used to, right? I mean, I do think that meat is
40:35
one of those things that like the quality matters quite a bit.
40:41
So I kind of like as a person who does advocate for people
40:47
getting as much protein as possible and including meat in
40:50
their diets. I also feel very strongly that
40:52
like meat can also be really a source of a lot of like toxins
40:58
too in your diet if you're eating meat with a bunch of
41:01
antibiotics in it that was grain fed and has a shitty fat profile
41:08
because of it. And grew up in a confined animal
41:10
feeding operation and is like embedded in trauma.
41:14
Right. Yeah.
41:16
So like, I hate to be that person.
41:18
That's just like pasteurized grass fed organic, but like,
41:22
yeah, but it's true. Yeah, I can.
41:24
I, I don't. I used to buy all organic meat,
41:27
but since I've been on a budget, falling on a budget, I just go
41:31
to Costco and I know they're meat, even though it's not
41:33
organic, it is a little bit better than like a Winco.
41:37
Yeah. And like so it's like that
41:41
caliber of. I mean, the best deal that
41:46
you'll ever get on me, I think is buying a whole animal, buy
41:50
half a cow quarter. We if you have the space to
41:53
store it. Yeah. 1/4 of a Dexter will take
41:57
up that's a smaller breed of cow, which we have a lot of in
42:00
the Applegate Valley will take up not the whole part of your
42:05
freezer of just the freezer attached to your fridge.
42:08
So you don't even necessarily need a chest freezer, but it
42:11
helps to have chest freezer and. My thing is right now I've been
42:15
relying on government to help me with my food currently.
42:19
So. Like, which is insane because we
42:22
are a business owners that the business looks good on paper,
42:26
but we're not taking home so right.
42:29
I mean, I just, you know, it's one of those things and like, it
42:32
was such a relief to get the help.
42:35
Yeah. Oh yeah.
42:35
You know, and of course as soon as I start making money, it'll
42:38
you know, like I'm not planning on abusing the system at all.
42:41
I'm legitimately is helping us right now and I'm using.
42:46
It survive. Yeah, like I can feed my kids
42:48
without us, you know, being like, oh.
42:52
We have McDonald's every day. And that's the one thing that
42:55
has drained my food bill, is the one thing that has drained my
42:58
savings. Yeah.
43:00
Like 1200 bucks a month. And food.
43:05
I know I had to Goodbye. Goodbye, Goodbye I.
43:07
Had to do a big food budget like overhaul a couple years ago
43:13
because I was just going to gooseberries for everything and
43:16
that's expensive. And then when I switched to Fred
43:18
Meyer, Now I'm playing the Fred Meyer game of getting a discount
43:21
on gas as well. Get those digital coupons.
43:25
Plus only buy things when they're on sale and get like I
43:28
buy 10 sticks of butter at a time when Kerry Gold goes on
43:32
sale and that's when I get butter.
43:36
That's a great. Way to buy, you can breathe.
43:38
A great way to buy. I I buy a little differently
43:41
than that, but that's a great way to buy.
43:43
Yeah, OK. My random thought that I wanted
43:46
to finish was just that with the scrolling question.
43:49
Yeah, in the mornings. I also have a cut off of 11 AM
43:56
ideally. So my ideal phone usage
44:01
structure is cut off at 11:00 PM and don't use until 11 AM.
44:08
That's for social media. But I also like I do just turn
44:11
my Internet off at 11 AM and it's sorry, 11:00 PM, but it's
44:17
then my husband turns it on when he gets up.
44:19
But I won't check social media until ideally 11 AM.
44:24
And then I have about an hour between that and when I leave
44:26
for work. And what I notice is when I'm
44:29
sticking to that, I won't get stuck because I'm already up and
44:33
moving and and doing all the other things and I have momentum
44:36
with everything else. So that even if I do check it,
44:39
it's more like done in a business like professional way.
44:44
Yeah, where I'm and you're getting stuff done at that time
44:46
too. But if I go on it earlier, which
44:49
the reason that that happens is when I want to post my daily
44:53
cold plunge photo right away instead of just waiting a couple
44:57
hours and then then you can get stuck on it.
45:00
And when I'm just sitting in front of my wood stove, that
45:03
should be my time to be reading my book.
45:06
But instead I spend 30 minutes scrolling and then it's like
45:12
it's so easy to get sucked into. It is, it is.
45:14
That's why I asked, because it's such a big hot topic, especially
45:19
now that we're all becoming awake to like, Oh my God, we are
45:22
fucking addicted, you know, and I've been having to adjust and
45:25
readjust address my boundaries. That's why I asked.
45:27
I'm like, do you you know, and I'm trying it's.
45:30
Also hard when you use social media in.
45:32
Business professionally. And where like you need to post
45:36
professionally but you also need to consume professionally and
45:40
see what are other people posting like trends, interact
45:43
with people so that your account stays active and relevant.
45:47
In the algorithm, yeah, it's such a battle.
45:49
Yeah, One thing that I have noticed has helped is again,
45:54
like I also, I'm saying this out loud so that I will continue to
46:00
try to do this, is to take your phone into like an office
46:06
setting and be like, OK, I'm sitting at my desk while I'm on
46:09
Instagram. So I'm in work Instagram mode,
46:13
not just like passive consumption mode.
46:16
Yeah, I try to do my like kind of rule of thumb is like
46:24
producing more than I consume. Yeah, so creating, really
46:28
creating more than I consume. So when I catch myself scrolling
46:32
right, I'll be like, and I'll be like work on my video.
46:35
And I have a couple videos I've been working to pump out and
46:38
it's like, OK. And then I've heard.
46:41
Many people say that I also love.
46:43
I heard this one on a Joe Rogan podcast post and ghost.
46:47
Yeah, he'd post and ghost. Yeah, and I so that's great for
46:51
Joe because he's already such a big, big following.
46:54
Yeah, but we can't do that. We have to like, stick around
46:57
and engage and comment and. I do think that host and ghost
47:02
in the sense of like posted and then don't check it again for
47:05
like 6 hours. And that's, dude, do that right?
47:08
And then, you know, comment back and then all the things anyway,
47:11
sort of. Posting and then looking at it
47:13
to see all the likes come in in real time or comments or
47:18
whatever. And I've been trying to cut mine
47:21
off when we get home from when I pick up Bubba, from when I pick
47:25
up my littlest. That's kind of like which is
47:28
hard. And then I just like literally
47:30
don't, I'm trying not to get on it the rest of the evening.
47:34
So I'm really trying to utilize my phone time in my work block
47:39
of time because I'm working, you know, that's kind of where I'm
47:42
at with stuff. And then also designating
47:46
certain days where I am doing more on the phone because I'm
47:52
really, I'm in school right now. So it's like, I'm really trying
47:54
to like utilize my time that I have for school.
47:58
And if I'm pulled away to, to scroll a bit, I get sucked.
48:02
And and then my, my ADHD is just like, oh, this marketing thing I
48:06
need to think about make make a note.
48:09
Yeah, yeah. One other tip.
48:10
That I have. That has been helpful.
48:12
It it hasn't been the biggest moving mover of the needle, but
48:18
it has made a difference. Is this app that I got called
48:22
one SEC and you just install it with like your accessibility
48:27
features or something in your phone.
48:29
And basically it makes it so that when you open Instagram, it
48:33
immediately instead opens that other app and it makes you take
48:36
one full breath in and one full breath out before you open
48:40
Instagram. And so now every time I open my
48:43
app, it gives you and it gives you a big button that says I
48:47
don't want to open Instagram or you have to click the little
48:51
text below that says like, go ahead and open the app.
48:55
I will just. But it's still you still have to
48:58
wait for it no matter what. You can't just go past.
49:01
It well, sometimes I'm like, oh, I'm I'm like picking this up and
49:04
getting into social media out of like habit.
49:07
I'm like almost like habitual like this is what I do.
49:10
I'm just like, blah, blah, blah, your finger.
49:12
Then I'm like. Into the app.
49:13
Yeah, yes. And then I'm like, oh wait, I'm
49:15
working on something and I'll just turn it off immediately and
49:18
go into my cap cut to work on my videos.
49:20
But or because I also do social media management for a few
49:24
brands, so it's just like, or I'm like, Oh yeah, I got to post
49:27
for them real quick and I haven't been, you know,
49:29
whatever. So I have to do this shit like
49:31
that anyway. But yeah, I know it's such a
49:34
double edged sword, especially when you need to market yourself
49:37
and everybody needs needs to or should or whatever it like
49:42
literally it's such a necessity to marketing unless you don't
49:48
have any desire to do anything other than like.
49:52
Yeah, very local. Stuff, yeah, like you weren't,
49:55
you're a nurse or and you don't want to do anything else.
49:58
And that's just like what you do.
50:00
And you don't want, you don't want to advance in any sort of
50:03
way. You just like want to put your
50:04
head down and work and you don't have any dreams of being noticed
50:07
or being, you know, like building a subsequent brand of
50:13
lifestyle or. Because there are absolutely
50:15
people who are successful and happy and fulfilled that don't
50:18
have any social media presence whatsoever.
50:21
And they grow and they progress and they get promotions.
50:25
And like, there are worlds that exist very healthfully outside
50:31
of social media, but then there are others that absolutely
50:35
require you. Could be a plumber or an
50:37
electrician who make like pretty decent money.
50:40
Or a house cleaner. But a house cleaner.
50:42
I don't need social media to get more clients, get more money
50:47
unless I wanted to lean into that where I'm getting sponsored
50:52
by cleaning products or. You could build an.
50:56
Empire yeah, which like that's not me.
50:58
I want to work alone autonomously.
51:00
I don't want to manage people. I don't want to have other
51:02
people on my team. I don't need sponsorships by
51:06
products like I use. I use one, I could feel it.
51:10
I use basically one product and there's no way that they would
51:13
ever sponsor me to be promoting their.
51:17
Sponsored by white vinegar. Yeah, like.
51:21
Rubbing alcohol, white vinegar and thief thieves like I highly
51:24
doubt Young Living is gonna be like hey true would you promote
51:29
our products to not their. Pyramid scheme, yeah.
51:32
Like they don't need, they don't need me to do.
51:34
That our multi level marketing. I'm so sorry.
51:36
I I love, I love Young Living thieves product for cleaning.
51:40
I use it on absolutely everything.
51:42
Good for. That, yeah, but I don't.
51:44
Need to. Sell that to people and I like
51:48
the and I don't need more cleaning work like I work as
51:52
much as I want to. But now we're doing this, Emily
51:54
and. This requires social media
51:57
personality and presence and time and work.
52:01
And it's a big learning curve for me to like be on social
52:06
media as a working mindset versus either just like minimal
52:12
scrolling or like post and ghost.
52:15
Like I, I don't even post much on my personal stuff.
52:20
And so it's, it's, it's testing me to to consume social media
52:28
under the mindset of how I can replicate it and.
52:33
Job wise, sometimes I feel like I don't work.
52:37
Sometimes I feel like I'm not working.
52:38
I'm like, am I actually working? You know, like, well, yeah, I
52:42
am. I'm on like I'm being paid to
52:45
put this post on for this restaurant or whatever.
52:47
It's like, but it doesn't feel like it, like I'm not doing
52:50
anything. So I'm like, I almost feel
52:51
guilty for doing it. It's such a weird mindset that I
52:55
have. Anyway, Diana, there's one more
52:59
thing you would like to, you know, share with the class You
53:05
just want to like to nice round this out.
53:09
And do you want people to walk away from this experience of
53:12
meeting you? I mean, we've talked about that
53:13
a little bit of how people, when you're gone from this planet,
53:16
how we want people to remember you.
53:19
But as we leave this. This formal sit because we'll do
53:22
a little bit on the downward trek and we'll do an outro type
53:26
of thing, but. As we sat up here and talked
53:29
about your journey into Move Now and becoming a Move Now
53:33
instructor and teaching and guiding other people in living
53:38
their most natural wild movement oriented and integrated
53:44
lifestyle. Yeah.
53:47
What do you want people to take from this and then go do in
53:52
their life? They they this podcast episode
53:55
ends and they say oh, Diana inspired me to X.
54:02
Thank you Emily, love you so much.
54:04
I love you too. So I feel like the message has
54:10
two sides to it because one part of me feels very strongly like
54:15
this is so important, it's so vital, it's so necessary.
54:20
Like take it seriously. Your physical and like all
54:26
entire well-being really depends on reclaiming your ability to
54:34
move more naturally. It's going to affect your
54:37
lifespan. It's going to affect your
54:39
quality of life. It's going to affect what you're
54:42
able to do later in, in your lifetime and in older age.
54:47
And it's going to help you feel more empowered as a person.
54:51
And so then it has a seriousness to it.
54:55
And then it also has another really lighter side to it of
55:01
like, this is fun. This is playful.
55:06
This is also something to keep in balance and to stay, I guess,
55:14
like, yeah, balanced in your approach, just as you would with
55:18
any other health practice where if you take it to the extreme, I
55:22
definitely don't want people starting to feel like this is
55:26
something that is something to feel bad about if you're not
55:31
doing good enough or you're intimidated and that you're
55:37
comparing yourself to where other people are at in their
55:39
journey. And.
55:42
So. Yeah.
55:43
Or that it's out of reach because they're so out of touch
55:47
with it. Right or out of shape or older.
55:51
So I really want people to know that they can start wherever
55:55
they're at and that every step in that direction towards
56:04
reclaiming more of a natural movement based lifestyle, which
56:09
really goes honestly beyond even movement itself.
56:13
It's ultimately A rewilding practice of living a life that's
56:19
more connected to nature. And so any step that you can
56:26
take in that direction is going to be beneficial, whether it's
56:28
just going barefoot at home instead of wearing shoes in your
56:32
house. If you're someone that does
56:34
that, or if you already go barefoot at home, start going
56:37
barefoot in your yard. If you already go barefoot in
56:40
your yard, start maybe trying barefoot hiking every once in a
56:44
while. And if you already do that
56:46
sometimes, then maybe you're ready to try even running
56:50
barefoot. And so you can think of like
56:52
going barefoot as that continuum.
56:54
And that is true with any approach to natural movement.
56:58
If it has to do with just sitting a little bit less and
57:03
walking a little bit more, or switching to a standing
57:08
workstation, or switching to a floor workstation, or getting
57:12
rid of all the furniture in your home like.
57:15
You. The Sky's the limit with like
57:17
where you want to go and what level you feel is appropriate to
57:21
you. And also, as you're going
57:24
through it, as you get to different levels of a more
57:27
natural movement based lifestyle, you might start to
57:30
get inspired to take things to a level beyond where maybe you had
57:36
thought that you wanted to before.
57:38
Or the flip side is possible. You could also realize that,
57:42
like you're in a sweet spot and you actually don't need to go
57:46
full as extreme if that's the type of person you're you are
57:49
and you initially decided that you were going to go all out and
57:53
become, you know, total Tarzan. And then you actually want to
58:00
like scale it back so that you can still interact with modern
58:03
society. I think there is a sweet spot
58:06
and I want people to feel inspired more than intimidated,
58:11
but I also want people to challenge themselves a little
58:13
bit and use that to like fuel their fire and get inspired and
58:20
continue to take that approach of like ground and find out.
58:24
Like play around with what you might actually be capable of or
58:28
what you're growing edge is and just continue to explore and
58:31
pursue that. Awesome, awesome.
58:34
Hey, we're good. Should we do a deep swap?
58:36
Should we do a OH? I'm still in the chair.
58:42
Get out of. The chair.
58:46
Our feet are flat on the ground. You can't really.
58:48
See. Our feet are flat on the ground,
58:58
heels are on the ground. Awesome.
59:02
Natural resting position. Everybody should have access to
59:05
this position. That's my goal.
59:07
Yeah, for you. If you don't know how to get
59:09
there, I can help give you some tips.
59:12
Yeah, where can we find you on the Internet?
59:15
I'm at Diana G Mutula on Instagram.
59:18
That's the best way to get a hold of me.
59:20
And yeah, I also have a website, dianamutula.com.
59:24
Oh, I didn't know you had a personal website.
59:26
Well. That's great.
59:27
Yep. And you can also find me through
59:29
Voodnot at at Voodnot on Instagram and that's a Voodnot
59:33
website too. I'm a trainer for that and.
59:35
We should have a Voodnot sponsor us, yeah.
59:38
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59:46
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59:47
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59:55
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