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11-2 H4: Zack Pearson Joins, Mike Benton Stops By & No Cliche' Keys · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into Chuck in the Morning, Sports Radio 93.3
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Speaker 1: KJR FM. Myself, Anderson Hurst, Christopher Kidd, and Hugh Millen
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Speaker 1: with you for all four hours today.
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Speaker 2: Chuck is on vacation.
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Speaker 1: He'll be back a little bit later this week, but
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Speaker 1: we're leading you up to a fantastic matchup this Monday
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Speaker 1: night against the Bears and the Seahawks. It feels like
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Speaker 1: very much a prove-it game for both teams and joining
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Speaker 1: us to discuss the other side of this we've discussed
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Speaker 1: a lot of Seahawks side but we got to get
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Speaker 1: the feeling in Chicago joining us is Zach Pearson a
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Speaker 1: Chicago's Bear Reporter for Bear Report on 247 Sports joins
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Speaker 1: us on the show today Zach thank you so much
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Speaker 1: for carving out some time for us today how are you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, anytime. I'm doing good. Looking forward to tonight's game.
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Speaker 3: It should be an exciting one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really should be. We've been discussing all show
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Speaker 1: long about the matchup between Ben Johnson and Mike McDonald.
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Speaker 1: Just general confidence level, obviously Ben Johnson doesn't lack any
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Speaker 1: of that confidence, but how does it feel in Chicago
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Speaker 1: right now with him? How does he feel about the
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Speaker 1: offense going up against this Mike McDonald defense tonight?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, when we talked to him last week,
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Speaker 4: he had nothing but praise for that Seattle defense. And
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Speaker 4: he knows this is a very tough task ahead. He
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Speaker 4: knows what the Seahawks can do. You saw what they
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Speaker 4: did against Kansas City last week, only eight possessions for
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs in that game. And They are one of
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Speaker 4: the best defenses in the NFL still. And you look
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Speaker 4: across the board, the metrics prove that.
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Speaker 3: So it'll be a good test for Ben Johnson and
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Speaker 3: his offense. And I think he's up for it.
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Speaker 4: He's not a guy that's going to shy away from
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Speaker 4: the big moment. And I think he has this Bears
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Speaker 4: offense playing at a high level ever since Caleb Williams
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Speaker 4: came back a few weeks ago.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and we'll talk about that. But I'm curious, one
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Speaker 5: more follow-up on Ben Johnson there. Because, okay, the Chiefs
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Speaker 5: come into town. And you don't get the feeling from
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Speaker 5: afar that Andy Reid is taking it personal, like Andy
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Speaker 5: Reid versus Mike McDonald. But based on things that we
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Speaker 5: have learned about Ben Johnson from afar, you're closer to it.
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Speaker 5: It seems like maybe Ben Johnson relishes that individual matchup
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Speaker 5: of himself against Mike McDonald and would take great delight
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Speaker 5: to win that matchup personally. Is that a fair impression
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Speaker 5: to have from out here in Seattle? What do you
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Speaker 5: know about Ben Johnson? Do you think that he's really
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Speaker 5: looking forward to trying to stick it to Mike McDonald?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think he respects Mike McDonald, obviously.
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Speaker 4: I think it's more of just like as a competition
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Speaker 4: thing in terms of, you know, he wants to kind of,
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Speaker 4: you know, stick it to them and things like that.
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Speaker 4: I think he knows how good Mike McDonald is in
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Speaker 4: the respect. I mean, he's defending Super Bowl champions. But again,
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Speaker 4: he's also got that fiery competition in him where he
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Speaker 4: would love to be on the right side of this
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Speaker 4: game tonight and show, hey, look, I can take down
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Speaker 4: the top defense in the NFL. So I don't think
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Speaker 4: it's anything like the Matt LaFleur stuff we've seen here
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Speaker 4: in Chicago with the Bears-Packers rivalry. But I do think Ben–
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Speaker 4: you know, I do think Ben Johnson likes going up
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Speaker 4: against the best defensive minds in the NFL.
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Speaker 3: And, you know, they, they pay attention.
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Speaker 4: The bears do pay attention to a lot of things
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Speaker 4: that are said, which is actually a different approach than
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Speaker 4: previous years.
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Speaker 3: You know, they were the number one.
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Speaker 4: Regression candidate all off season and then brought that up
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Speaker 4: in a press conference without us even asking. So, They
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Speaker 4: definitely are aware of the headlines and everything like that.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I do think he would love to come
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Speaker 3: out a winner tonight. But again, I think it's still.
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Speaker 4: in that mutual respect zone.
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Speaker 6: Gotcha.
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Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 1: Well, along with the Johnson versus McDonald discussion, is the
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Speaker 1: discussion about both these teams adding at the trade deadline,
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Speaker 1: how big of an ad was that Jeffrey Simmons deal?
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Speaker 1: We just discussed last segment about which NFC team improved
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Speaker 1: their team the most. Seahawks have loved their Quentin Nelson deal,
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Speaker 1: but our chief analyst Hugh Millen says that the Bears
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Speaker 1: actually improved even more with the Jeffrey Simmons trade. What's
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Speaker 1: the feeling in Chicago right now with that one?
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Speaker 3: A lot of excitement.
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Speaker 4: You know, the Bears went out and made that big
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Speaker 4: move after, like you said, you saw the Seahawks get
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Speaker 4: Quentin Nelson, even the 49ers going out and getting DeForest Buckner.
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Speaker 4: The Bears, you know, wanted Buckner as well. I think
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Speaker 4: the price is a little too high from what I've heard.
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Speaker 4: And he wanted to go back to San Francisco. So, yeah,
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Speaker 4: you know, I think the Jeffrey Simmons deal was huge.
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Speaker 4: In all offseason, the need for the Bears was they
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Speaker 4: either need an elite pass rusher or they need an
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Speaker 4: elite defensive tackle. I was more on the side of,
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Speaker 4: you know, I think if you get an elite defensive tackle,
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Speaker 4: it's going to benefit you more. And when the opportunity
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Speaker 4: was there, they struck. So it's a huge move because they've,
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Speaker 4: you know, their defensive lines played better than expected, but
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Speaker 4: now you get arguably the best defensive tackle in football.
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Speaker 4: And it can solve some of your issues in the
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Speaker 4: secondary because the best way to, you know, relieve those
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Speaker 4: issues in the secondary is basically get to the quarterback faster.
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Speaker 3: So, Yeah, it's huge. And, you know, Ryan Poles talked
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Speaker 3: to us.
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Speaker 4: He said everyone in the building from the offense to
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Speaker 4: the defense was fired up. And we talked to Grady Jarrett.
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Speaker 4: He kind of said the same thing. Like, you see
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Speaker 4: a move like this, and this is something that, you know,
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Speaker 4: gives players belief that Ryan Poles believes that they are
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Speaker 4: a Super Bowl contending roster.
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Speaker 3: So it's huge.
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Speaker 4: And I'm kind of interested to see how it plays
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Speaker 4: out tonight because I know him and.
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Speaker 3: Quentin Nelson are very familiar with each other.
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Speaker 4: And Simmons, you know, basically– he had nothing but great
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Speaker 4: things to say about Nelson.
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Speaker 3: He respects him as a competitor.
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Speaker 4: So it'll be fun to watch, but yeah, the, you know,
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Speaker 4: I think that move takes the bears from, okay, we
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Speaker 4: can compete in the NFC too. You know, we might
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Speaker 4: have a legit shot at being the Superbowl contender this year.
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Speaker 5: Well, let's talk about the bears defense and your impressions
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Speaker 5: aside from Simmons. You mentioned, you seem to suggest that
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Speaker 5: maybe there's some coverage issues. I know Jalen Johnson maybe is,
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Speaker 5: struggled a little bit, but Kobe Bryant was a big
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Speaker 5: acquisition for the Bears coming from Seattle. He got hurt
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Speaker 5: in training camp, but just aside from Simmons, give us
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Speaker 5: your impressions of the defense and what Seattle faces.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's kind of just been a collective effort.
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Speaker 4: You know, when they got Kyler Gordon back against Atlanta
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Speaker 4: a couple weeks ago, that was kind of a wow,
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Speaker 4: like a shot in the arm where, you know, he
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Speaker 4: played 17 snaps, and I believe he had three sacks
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Speaker 4: and two forced fumbles the first play of the game
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Speaker 4: against drake may comes in on a sack so he's
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Speaker 4: probably been their best player in these last couple games
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Speaker 4: um other than that though you know there are some
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Speaker 4: issues in the secondary rookie dylan theman's been playing really
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Speaker 4: well at safety but opposite of him has just been
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Speaker 4: kind of a revolving door they've had about two to
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Speaker 4: three guys um you'll probably see cam lewis tonight they're
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Speaker 4: opposite of him but you know they've had some tackling
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Speaker 4: issues especially jalen johnson if you go back and watch
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Speaker 4: that tape against the patriots uh It looks like he
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Speaker 4: made a couple of business decisions on a couple of
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Speaker 4: key plays and he got ran over at the goal
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Speaker 4: line against the Packers.
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Speaker 3: Hasn't been a good year for him. Tyreek Stevenson has
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Speaker 3: been struggling.
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Speaker 4: Outside of that, Malik Muhammad, the rookie, has played really
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Speaker 4: well playing on the outside and in the slot. So
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Speaker 4: I guess to answer your question, the two guys that
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Speaker 4: I've been impressed with have been the rookies in Thienemann
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Speaker 4: and Muhammad. And other than that, it's just been Devin
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Speaker 4: Bush kind of making some big plays or Grady Jarrett
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Speaker 4: making plays. Montez Sweat, Austin Booker, it's just been kind
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Speaker 4: of a collective effort of just, you know, all right,
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Speaker 4: someone else is trying to make a play now, which
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Speaker 4: I do think will change a little bit because of
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Speaker 4: the Jeffrey Simmons acquisition, but If Seattle's going to take advantage,
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Speaker 4: I would look at.
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Speaker 3: That secondary, especially with JSN out there.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely.
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Speaker 1: That's going to be a matchup worth watching. Let's stick
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Speaker 1: with the Bears' defense here. Results-wise, at least, I think
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Speaker 1: a lot of people expected probably less than what the
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Speaker 1: Bears have given this year defensively. Is there a feeling that,
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Speaker 1: you know, Dennis Allen has actually figured something out or
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Speaker 1: have they maybe been outperforming what their talent level is?
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Speaker 1: Of course, this is before the Jeffrey Simmons trade as well.
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Speaker 1: So what do you think? How would you characterize the,
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Speaker 1: I guess, pleasant, surprising start to the season for the
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Speaker 1: Bears defense?
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Speaker 4: I think it's a little bit of both, but I'd
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Speaker 4: probably lean more towards the Dennis Allen factor.
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Speaker 3: And you're going to see it tonight.
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Speaker 4: You'll see a lot of different coverages. You know, he'll
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Speaker 4: go and dime more often than not just because of
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Speaker 4: their issues they've had and the injuries. He's just trying
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Speaker 4: to get as many guys in the field. They like to,
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Speaker 4: you know, get the best players in the field, whether
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Speaker 4: it is, you know, five defensive backs or going that
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Speaker 4: dime look.
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Speaker 3: They really don't mind.
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Speaker 4: And he'll, you know, disguise some blitzes that are pretty
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Speaker 4: impressive and especially defensive.
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Speaker 3: You know, with Kyler Gordon.
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Speaker 4: Back, I think that gave him, you know, kind of
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Speaker 4: a secret weapon in a way where he's among the
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Speaker 4: best blitzers at his position and he can come up
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Speaker 4: and stop the run. He's not afraid to tackle or
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Speaker 4: anything like that. And he'll drop back and he's a
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Speaker 4: really good cover corner too. So I think getting Kyler
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Speaker 4: Gordon back, we're finally starting to see what Dennis Allen
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Speaker 4: can unlock with this defense.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I think Allen has found something
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Speaker 3: here this year.
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Speaker 4: Because, you know, last year they were so good at
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Speaker 4: taking the ball away. And, you know, they're not as
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Speaker 4: good this year. But, you know, with what Dennis Allen's
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Speaker 4: been able to do with what he's got, I've been
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Speaker 4: very impressed.
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Speaker 5: Zach Pearson with us covering the Bears. And let's flip
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Speaker 5: it over to the Bears offense. I want to ask
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Speaker 5: you just kind of a broad statement.
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Speaker 4: When.
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Speaker 7: Ben.
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Speaker 5: Johnson said that he expects and he wants the Bears
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Speaker 5: to set the all-time record for points. What was your
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Speaker 5: immediate reaction? And attendant to that question would be just
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Speaker 5: whether or not you think the Bears offense has the
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Speaker 5: goods to make good on that proclamation by the head coach.
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Speaker 4: I wasn't surprised um that's that's basically who ben is
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Speaker 4: and i say this in the most respectful and polite
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Speaker 4: way he's a football psycho. He is all football. Um,
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Speaker 4: just talking to him, you can just kind of see it.
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Speaker 4: And I think he kind of have to be, to
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Speaker 4: be a coach a little bit. Um, but he takes
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Speaker 4: it to another level. He wants to win.
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Speaker 3: This is his shot.
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Speaker 4: You know, he he's been waiting. He took this job.
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Speaker 4: He picked this job, um, because of Caleb Williams in
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Speaker 4: the offense they had. So no, it didn't shock me
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Speaker 4: at all. Um, you know, I think after week one
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Speaker 4: against Carolina, when they put up, you know, the 50
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Speaker 4: plus points, um, yeah, they could set it. Um, you know,
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Speaker 4: and then the injuries happened to Caleb Williams, and they
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Speaker 4: kind of struggled, but I think this is a really
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Speaker 4: good offense, you know, I don't think they're going to
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Speaker 4: break the record or anything like that, but I think
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Speaker 4: at the end of the year, when we look back,
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Speaker 4: we're going to say, wow, Caleb Williams took a step
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Speaker 4: forward in year two under Ben Johnson, they have playmakers
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Speaker 4: like Luther Byrne, who's taking a step forward, Colston Loveland,
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Speaker 4: and I think, you know, you won't see the full
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Speaker 4: run game tonight, because Kyle Medunga is not going to play,
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Speaker 4: but You're going to see DeAndre Swift potentially.
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Speaker 3: Having another career year and Tom Inungi having a.
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Speaker 4: Big breakout year. But tonight will be tough for them.
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Speaker 4: Seattle's defense is really good. I don't expect to shoot
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Speaker 4: out by any means. I think this game will be
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Speaker 4: kind of played in the 20s. But I think moving forward,
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Speaker 4: they have a couple of tough defenses, but they have
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Speaker 4: some very winnable games coming up here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Zach, you mentioned kind of the step forward that
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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams has taken this year. How would you describe
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Speaker 1: where he has gotten better? Because I think when he
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Speaker 1: came into the league as the number one overall pick,
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Speaker 1: he was definitely much more of a kind of off-script guy.
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Speaker 1: But it seems like from afar, he's been more willing
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Speaker 1: to kind of make the on-time throws, so to speak.
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Speaker 1: So how would you describe his kind of step up
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Speaker 1: that he's taken in year two under Ben Johnson?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you start right there, you know, on
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Speaker 4: the on-time throws, playing in structure in the pocket, kind
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Speaker 4: of things like that. They described that JT Barrett, the
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Speaker 4: quarterback's coach, had a good quote where he said early
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Speaker 4: in the offseason, he needs Caleb Williams to take the
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Speaker 4: easy money throws. And I think we're seeing a lot
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Speaker 4: of that, where last year he was kind of big
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Speaker 4: play hunting and the Bears were trying to find that
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Speaker 4: perfect balance of hitting those explosive plays deep, but also
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Speaker 4: take what's there for you underneath. If you pick up
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Speaker 4: four to five yards underneath on a check down, that's
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Speaker 4: going to move the chains.
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Speaker 3: More often than not. So he's been a lot better
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Speaker 3: at that.
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Speaker 4: Um, and then of course you see that against Atlanta
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Speaker 4: and he's, he's almost perfect in that game. And, you know,
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Speaker 4: you look at the past chart and everyone's complaining about
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Speaker 4: the a dot and the short throws and things like that.
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Speaker 4: That's Ben Johnson's offense. You know, it's designed to make
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Speaker 4: plays at all three levels of the field. And, you know,
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Speaker 4: sometimes it's going to be a lot of short throws.
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Speaker 4: Sometimes there'll be some deep throws. I think Caleb Williams
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Speaker 4: has gotten better in taking all those throws on all
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Speaker 4: levels of the field and being able to make them. Um,
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Speaker 4: You watch him last year, and he's scrambling. He's running
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Speaker 4: around for his life at times and making these incredible throws.
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Speaker 4: But then he's missing slants to Luther Burden, or he's
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Speaker 4: missing out routes easy to Colston Loveland. We haven't seen
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Speaker 4: a lot of misses this year. He's playing a lot
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Speaker 4: on time and in the pocket and making the throws
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Speaker 4: that Ben wants him.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of room to grow still. Ben said
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Speaker 3: that with consistency and things like that. But so far,
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Speaker 3: so good in his return from injury.
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Speaker 5: A couple more minutes with Zach Pearson, and Zach, out
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Speaker 5: here in Seattle, a lot of Washington fans really were
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Speaker 5: drawn to Roma Dunze and his contributions, the player he was,
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Speaker 5: the person he was. We all kind of know from
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Speaker 5: afar that there's been a little bit of a struggle
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Speaker 5: for the ninth overall pick, but give us an update
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Speaker 5: on Roma Dunze, how he's doing, and the type of
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Speaker 5: threat he presents for Seattle tonight.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think it's been, like you said,
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Speaker 4: top 10 pick number nine. It's been a little bit
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Speaker 4: of a disappointment in terms of the production hasn't been there.
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Speaker 3: And I go back to last year, his first five
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Speaker 3: or six games.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think he had five touchdowns and, you know,
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Speaker 4: he was their go-to guy in the offense. And then
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Speaker 4: he gets a foot injury and that bugs him all
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Speaker 4: year and that kind of slowed him down in what
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Speaker 4: I think would have been, you know, a big breakout
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Speaker 4: year for him. This year, it's funny because, you know,
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Speaker 4: it's not been the contested catches that that have bugged
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Speaker 4: him which you know a lot of people thought was
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Speaker 4: a knock on him for some reason but it's been
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Speaker 4: more of just like open or a couple yards open
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Speaker 4: where they're not as contested that's bugged him and that
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Speaker 4: goes back to last year too and when he returned
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Speaker 4: if you watch that playoff game against the Rams early
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Speaker 4: on he dropped an open touchdown that could have totally
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Speaker 4: changed that game this year you know he's had a
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Speaker 4: couple nice contested catches but I don't know if it's
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Speaker 4: just a mental lapse at time or you know maybe
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Speaker 4: he's trying to run before he gets the ball but
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Speaker 4: you know, he'll drop some of those ones where you're like,
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Speaker 4: you got to have those. And then he'll turn around
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Speaker 4: and make an incredible catch on the sideline that, you know,
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Speaker 4: you saw at Washington, he'll make a deep catch.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, he's still, he's still gonna be
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Speaker 3: a factor in this offense.
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Speaker 4: You know, the bears really don't have wide receiver one
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Speaker 4: or anything like that. They, they want to get everyone
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Speaker 4: involved and, you know, Luther Burns probably been their primary target,
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Speaker 4: but they're doing, they will still be a favorite target
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Speaker 4: of Caleb. They, they, you know, they've worked together in
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Speaker 4: the off seasons and then they're kind of familiar to
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Speaker 4: each other. I think it's more of a, They need
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Speaker 4: a little bit more time, and when it clicks, it'll
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Speaker 4: finally click. But again, tough challenge tonight in Seattle with
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Speaker 4: that crowd and that defense.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Zach Pearson joining us for just a couple more
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Speaker 1: minutes here. How big of a loss is Kyle Mungai?
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Speaker 1: I know everyone looks at DeAndre Swift as like, okay,
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Speaker 1: he's the guy there, and that running game is obviously
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Speaker 1: a big key to what Ben Johnson wants to do,
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Speaker 1: but I think he's been a big piece in that.
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Speaker 1: So how big of a loss is not having Kyle
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Speaker 1: Mungai tonight?
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Speaker 3: It's big.
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Speaker 4: I think it totally changes their run game and their
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Speaker 4: offense in general too. You know, when, when my own
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Speaker 4: guy was, was healthy, they would start with Swift and then,
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Speaker 4: you know, a couple of drives in, they'd go full,
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Speaker 4: you know, fully to my own guy for a couple
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Speaker 4: of drives and give Swift a little bit of a breather.
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Speaker 4: And they kind of got two different run styles. You know,
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Speaker 4: Swift is kind of more slasher dasher and my own guys,
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Speaker 4: he's going to take you on. He's going to hit
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Speaker 4: your head first and try to run through you. So, Yeah,
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Speaker 4: it's been a little bit of a downgrade here with
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Speaker 4: Roshon Johnson, and the Bears are having to rely on
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Speaker 4: Swift a lot more. And the interesting thing is, you know,
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Speaker 4: he won't say it or anything, but I think he's.
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Speaker 3: Been hampered a little bit by a knee injury potentially.
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Speaker 4: And, you know, he's been taken out of the game
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Speaker 4: a little bit to kind of save him. He's got
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Speaker 4: a couple extra days of rest. It'll be interesting to watch. But, yeah,
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Speaker 4: their offense is just totally different.
16:33
Speaker 3: When Mungangai comes.
16:34
Speaker 4: Back, hopefully next week, you know, I think a lot
16:36
Speaker 4: of people will see it where, you know, they'll have
16:38
Speaker 4: two really good backs with the potential to, take one
16:42
Speaker 4: to the house at any moment.
16:43
Speaker 3: And they just don't have that with my own guy
16:44
Speaker 3: out right now.
16:45
Speaker 6: Yeah.
16:45
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, it's just, it should be an interesting
16:48
Speaker 1: kind of view on what, uh, that'll end up happening
16:51
Speaker 1: with the run game of the bears. They, uh, it's
16:53
Speaker 1: what a second straight week now that my own guy
16:55
Speaker 1: will be out.
16:55
Speaker 7: So, uh, all right.
16:56
Speaker 1: What's your quick prediction for tonight? Zach, uh, in Seattle,
16:59
Speaker 1: Monday night football between the bears and Seahawks.
17:02
Speaker 4: I've gone back and forth, but I'm going to stick
17:04
Speaker 4: with my original prediction. I think it's a tough one
17:06
Speaker 4: for the bears. I think Seattle's going to come out ahead, uh,
17:09
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be really close. I think
17:11
Speaker 4: it's going to be like 23-20. If they were at
17:14
Speaker 4: Chicago Soldier Field, I would probably give it to the Bears.
17:17
Speaker 3: But I think it's so tough to play in Seattle.
17:20
Speaker 3: It's always a challenge there.
17:22
Speaker 4: But I think it'll be close and might come down
17:24
Speaker 4: to maybe a field goal with under a minute or
17:27
Speaker 4: something left.
17:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll go Seattle 23-20.
17:29
Speaker 7: Awesome.
17:30
Speaker 1: We love that prediction here in Seattle. But, Zach, thanks
17:32
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. And, you know, I appreciate you,
17:36
Speaker 1: you know, spending time out of your day where you
17:38
Speaker 1: obviously are going to be busy with the game and
17:39
Speaker 1: everything to come and join us today.
17:42
Speaker 2: So thank you again.
17:44
Speaker 3: Anytime. I really appreciate it. Have a good day, guys.
17:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, you too, Zach. Yeah, great, great stuff from
17:49
Speaker 1: Zach Pearson there. Again, just more fascinating levels to this game, Hugh.
17:55
Speaker 1: all across the board, whether it's Ben Johnson versus Mike McDonald,
17:59
Speaker 1: the run game, what the Bears get with Jeffrey Simmons,
18:04
Speaker 1: what the Seahawks get with Quentin Nelson. This is just
18:06
Speaker 1: this is a matchup for the ages here. And I
18:09
Speaker 1: think it's kind of a prove it game for the Bears.
18:12
Speaker 1: It's one of those like, hey, if you're legit, you
18:14
Speaker 1: can go and win this game. People start to take
18:16
Speaker 1: you seriously as a Super Bowl contender. And for the Seahawks,
18:19
Speaker 1: it's still a prove it game, I think, as well,
18:20
Speaker 1: because if you go and, you know, win this game
18:23
Speaker 1: after beating the Chiefs last week, people are like, OK,
18:26
Speaker 1: you're back in, you know, Super Bowl mode, kind of
18:29
Speaker 1: back to where you expected to be last year.
18:31
Speaker 6: Do you agree?
18:32
Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
18:34
Speaker 5: Well, I sure like Five and three better than four
18:39
Speaker 5: and four. Yes, because I think the schedule lightens up
18:42
Speaker 5: and then you really start to feel that momentum, the
18:46
Speaker 5: acquisition of Quentin Nelson. I think the Bears are interesting because,
18:50
Speaker 5: you know, for a couple of years there, they were,
18:52
Speaker 5: I think they were one in, can you look it up?
18:55
Speaker 5: One in 16 or their one win team. And I
18:59
Speaker 5: know they had the number one overall pick. Now, oddly enough,
19:04
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams, it.
19:05
Speaker 7: Wasn't that year. Remember, they traded it to Carolina. Bryce Young,
19:08
Speaker 7: that's right.
19:09
Speaker 5: And so Caleb Williams ended up being the number one
19:12
Speaker 5: overall pick because it came from Carolina. But they had
19:16
Speaker 5: the worst line in football. They've upgraded their line, obviously,
19:21
Speaker 5: with Williams. And he came out the year that Jaden
19:24
Speaker 5: Daniels did. And Daniels was the rookie of the year.
19:29
Speaker 5: And a lot of people thought, wow, maybe Chicago made
19:32
Speaker 5: the mistake. Well, now Fast forward a couple years, and
19:35
Speaker 5: everybody now is back on the idea. No, Williams is
19:38
Speaker 5: the premier quarterback from that draft, and they have done
19:43
Speaker 5: a nice job of upgrading the offensive line and then
19:46
Speaker 5: the skill guys around him.
19:48
Speaker 2: Yep, and then Mr.
19:49
Speaker 3: 22.
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Speaker 2: 2022 season where they went 3-14.
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Speaker 1: It was the NFL worst, and then, as you said,
19:54
Speaker 1: they got the number one overall pick.
19:55
Speaker 7: It felt like one win.
19:56
Speaker 1: It really did, because they had a 10-game losing streak
19:58
Speaker 1: in there, which is crazy. All right, well, even though
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Speaker 1: it is a Football Monday, question mark here, with the
20:04
Speaker 1: Seahawks playing the Bears, we obviously have reacted a lot
20:07
Speaker 1: of Huskies stuff as well earlier in the show. There
20:10
Speaker 1: has been some cracking news as Shane Wright has been traded.
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Speaker 1: We're going to... Be joined by Mike Benton, chief of
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Speaker 1: the Kraken Audio Network Enterprise. He'll join us coming up
20:21
Speaker 1: next year to discuss what the Kraken got back, what
20:25
Speaker 1: that means for them moving forward. All things Kraken coming
20:28
Speaker 1: up next with Mike Benton on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
20:38
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Chuck in the Morning.
20:39
Speaker 1: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. We're taking you all the
20:45
Speaker 1: way up until 10 o'clock where Greg Bell will hit
20:48
Speaker 1: the airwaves. Talking a lot of Seahawks today as we
20:50
Speaker 1: lead into Bears-Seahawks on Monday Night Football. But they are
20:54
Speaker 1: not the only thing going on in town as the
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Speaker 1: Kraken make a trade. Yesterday, the Shane Wright saga is
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Speaker 1: finally over. The Kraken trade, the rare one-for-one trade where
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Speaker 1: the Kraken trade Shane Wright to the Nashville Predators and
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Speaker 1: get Matthew Wood in return. So joining us to discuss
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Speaker 1: the trade is Mike Benton, Captain Kirk of the Kraken
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Speaker 1: Audio Network Enterprise. Bento, what's going on, man?
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Speaker 7: How are you?
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Speaker 6: I'm doing good, Andrews. Good morning.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for hopping on with us today.
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Speaker 1: Just initial thoughts. Shane Wright to Nashville, Kraken get Matthew Wood.
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Speaker 1: What's your initial take?
21:34
Speaker 6: Very much a throwback trade where it's one for one,
21:37
Speaker 6: and I think many parties are relieved to see this
21:41
Speaker 6: saga really finally come to an end. It's really, I think,
21:45
Speaker 6: for me on the right side, unfortunate that being that
21:48
Speaker 6: he was a fourth overall pick that they just couldn't
21:50
Speaker 6: find the right spot for him in the right situation where,
21:54
Speaker 6: you know, you had the production coming and some certain
21:56
Speaker 6: players take a bit longer again, as we said over
21:58
Speaker 6: and over here to develop more than others. But the
22:03
Speaker 6: longer this carried out, it was much more beneficial to find,
22:07
Speaker 6: I think a new surrounding for him, a better patch
22:10
Speaker 6: of greener grass for him. And then when you're looking
22:13
Speaker 6: to make a move like that, if you can get
22:15
Speaker 6: something in return that can immediately bolster your lineup and
22:18
Speaker 6: That's going to be a plus. Was there maybe a
22:20
Speaker 6: better trade out there than Matthew Wood? I'm not certain.
22:23
Speaker 6: But the longer that this plays out and the longer
22:25
Speaker 6: that this drags out, the less leverage you gain in
22:29
Speaker 6: negotiations like this to get somebody moved. So Matthew Wood
22:33
Speaker 6: isn't really that bad of a return as far as
22:35
Speaker 6: what you're getting. I mean, I've heard a little bit
22:37
Speaker 6: around the league as far as what he can do
22:39
Speaker 6: just from certain scouts, from his shot. His size also
22:43
Speaker 6: is a big plus at 6'4. This team's trying to
22:45
Speaker 6: also get bigger, and they're still one of the more
22:48
Speaker 6: smaller teams in the NHL. The wheels might be a
22:51
Speaker 6: bit of a work in progress here, but he comes
22:54
Speaker 6: off a 17-goal campaign last year in Nashville when he
22:57
Speaker 6: was just a rookie. He was drafted one year after
22:59
Speaker 6: Shane Wright, so... When you're looking to turn over the
23:03
Speaker 6: dynamic of this roster from a scoring output, this again
23:08
Speaker 6: fits the certain box where the Kraken are really trying
23:11
Speaker 6: to develop a lot of players on the younger side,
23:15
Speaker 6: akin to what they've brought in with Mackie Samaskevich. It's
23:19
Speaker 6: a trade that is not done based on resume, but
23:23
Speaker 6: a trade that is based on here for potential. Could
23:26
Speaker 6: this work out with Matthew Wood? We'll see. But from
23:29
Speaker 6: where they could be putting him, you've got a new
23:32
Speaker 6: slate for him, a new situation. And I think for
23:36
Speaker 6: what you're trying to do, it's a change of scene situation.
23:39
Speaker 6: trade that really benefits both parties where, you know, you
23:43
Speaker 6: put Shane Wright in a different situation, maybe he pops
23:45
Speaker 6: and Matthew would right here, potential that he could pop
23:48
Speaker 6: as well too. Maybe this could be a win-win here
23:51
Speaker 6: for both sides.
23:52
Speaker 4: Yeah.
23:53
Speaker 5: So Seattle gives up a center. They get back a
23:55
Speaker 5: winger for, uh, you know, hockey neophytes like me, uh, Mike,
24:01
Speaker 5: you know, kind of explain, is there a primacy to
24:04
Speaker 5: one position over the other? Um, and I'm, I'm really
24:09
Speaker 5: curious about your comment saga come to an end, but, um,
24:12
Speaker 5: but at any event, just for those of us who
24:14
Speaker 5: are still learning hockey, uh, uh, take us into the
24:17
Speaker 5: positional value and what have you with this trade.
24:22
Speaker 3: Yeah.
24:22
Speaker 6: And it's a great question because you're swapping both players where, um,
24:27
Speaker 6: They have a natural position, and they had to play
24:30
Speaker 6: out of that position over the last roughly month, even
24:34
Speaker 6: going back to the last half of last season, Hugh.
24:37
Speaker 6: And I think for Shane Wright's case, he's a natural
24:40
Speaker 6: center where he had to get moved over to the wing.
24:43
Speaker 6: I asked him last year when he had a one-game tryout,
24:47
Speaker 6: when's the last time you ever played wing? And he said,
24:50
Speaker 6: I had to go back to junior year before I
24:52
Speaker 6: went ahead and did this. The reason why he was
24:55
Speaker 6: moved over to the wing is because you've got Matty
24:57
Speaker 6: Beneers at the center position. You've got, back then, Chandler Stevenson,
25:01
Speaker 6: who was a top-six guy. That's been reshuffled now, where
25:04
Speaker 6: he's playing a bit further down the lineup. And Berkley Catton,
25:08
Speaker 6: who was out of the picture then, but now has
25:11
Speaker 6: really begun to take the reins as a centerman on
25:13
Speaker 6: this team. Center is a very, very, very important position
25:18
Speaker 6: to success here. of NHL teams. If you can build
25:22
Speaker 6: a great line, line one through line four with your center,
25:27
Speaker 6: and we call your first line center, second line center,
25:30
Speaker 6: third line center, et cetera, that's kind of like your spine.
25:33
Speaker 6: If you can develop great players up and down your
25:36
Speaker 6: lineup as your spine who can produce and who can
25:39
Speaker 6: defend back in your own zone, you've got yourself on
25:42
Speaker 6: the fast track to becoming a very, very good to
25:45
Speaker 6: elite NHL team. So Shane Wright basically plays I would
25:50
Speaker 6: say was moved out because of the competition game. Matty
25:52
Speaker 6: Bonier has claimed this spot. It seemed as if Berkley
25:55
Speaker 6: Catton has claimed this spot. You've got Chandler Stevenson still
25:58
Speaker 6: there with his contract, and it's a long one as well.
26:00
Speaker 6: So there's a long-term commitment and a long-term cost sunk in.
26:04
Speaker 6: On the flip side with Matthew Wood, you've got a
26:06
Speaker 6: player who is a natural winger who had to play
26:09
Speaker 6: out of position this year at center. It was similar
26:13
Speaker 6: here to the Shane Rice situation, but in Nashville. And
26:16
Speaker 6: Nashville needs more centers, so they get a position here
26:19
Speaker 6: of need. But with Wood, you're not bringing him in
26:22
Speaker 6: here to be a center on this cranking team. You're
26:24
Speaker 6: bringing him in here to be a winger. And wingers
26:26
Speaker 6: are the guys who are going to be shooting the
26:27
Speaker 6: puck the most. With his size of 6'4, you're going
26:30
Speaker 6: to be doing battles along the walls. That's a big advantage.
26:34
Speaker 6: And you can put a guy like that at the
26:35
Speaker 6: front of the net for tipping, screens, rebounds, second chances.
26:40
Speaker 6: You're looking at some pretty good potential. We can dive
26:44
Speaker 6: into the reasons why Shane Wright got moved, why he
26:47
Speaker 6: wasn't playing up and further in the lineup here, but
26:49
Speaker 6: for what you're doing, you're putting Wright back into a
26:52
Speaker 6: spot where it was tough for him to claim a
26:55
Speaker 6: higher spot as a center, and he has a fresh
26:57
Speaker 6: start in Nashville, and you bring in a guy in
26:59
Speaker 6: Matthew Wood where you're asking him to play at his
27:02
Speaker 6: natural spot, which could open more doors for him.
27:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, and it's worth pointing out that the initial
27:09
Speaker 1: reaction in Nashville was that they were not happy with
27:11
Speaker 1: this trade because Matthew was very, pretty highly regarded there.
27:15
Speaker 1: So hopefully that means he's going to realize that untapped
27:19
Speaker 1: potential coming here to Seattle really quick. Mike, where does
27:22
Speaker 1: he slot into the lineup?
27:25
Speaker 6: I like him right now out of the gate with
27:27
Speaker 6: Berkley Catton flying in Capo Caco. And it's interesting because
27:31
Speaker 6: I had, you know, somebody reach out to me on
27:34
Speaker 6: Twitter asking about this. And the return is with Matthew
27:37
Speaker 6: Wood that he's got a great shot. He's got size.
27:41
Speaker 6: The wheels or the boots are maybe a bit of
27:43
Speaker 6: a work in progress here as far as his foot speed.
27:45
Speaker 6: So does that maybe bring Berkley Catton flying down? I'm
27:49
Speaker 6: not sure. I'm not certain. But the reality is that
27:52
Speaker 6: there's no other spot really to put him and test
27:55
Speaker 6: him out in a more logical spot than with Berkley Catton.
27:58
Speaker 6: And I would argue because of this. Anders, you've seen this.
28:02
Speaker 6: I've seen this. Berkley Catton is developing into a bona
28:06
Speaker 6: fide top six center. And maybe in about a year
28:08
Speaker 6: or two or three years here, he might be your
28:11
Speaker 6: top line center on this team. A top line center
28:14
Speaker 6: in the NHL is a guy who can drive a line.
28:18
Speaker 6: And he's a guy who can make players on his
28:20
Speaker 6: line better. With Matthew Wood, there's maybe some untapped potential
28:25
Speaker 6: that if you have Berkley Catton setting him up, have
28:28
Speaker 6: him find some time and space for his shot, that
28:31
Speaker 6: might be a big plus. That's where I see Berkley
28:34
Speaker 6: Catton and Matthew Wood mutually benefiting here together. So this
28:38
Speaker 6: is all just speculation. This is all just us trying
28:41
Speaker 6: to take a look up and down and see what
28:44
Speaker 6: might work before the guy hasn't even had a practice
28:46
Speaker 6: in here yet. I mean, that's going to be an
28:47
Speaker 6: obvious big, big variable in all of this. But I
28:51
Speaker 6: really think based on where you're headed right now with
28:54
Speaker 6: Bobby McMahon and Matty Beneers, Mackie Samaskevich has found some
28:58
Speaker 6: newfound production now on a line with Chandler Stevenson. And
29:01
Speaker 6: until Jerry McCann's back until after New Year, you're trying
29:05
Speaker 6: to kind of, you know, put some moving parts in
29:07
Speaker 6: on that line right now. And the fourth line, they're
29:09
Speaker 6: doing great with Ben Myers and Ryan Winterton. So I
29:13
Speaker 6: think this is the most logical spot. And I would
29:15
Speaker 6: really love to see what they can do when you
29:17
Speaker 6: put them out there for some meaningful five on five minutes.
29:19
Speaker 2: Awesome.
29:20
Speaker 1: Well, no one else breaks it down better than Mike Benton.
29:23
Speaker 1: I'm sure you got some Kraken Overtime Podcast or instant
29:27
Speaker 1: reaction for it. And I would not be surprised if
29:30
Speaker 1: you were wearing the new Kraken Hometown Remix jersey while
29:33
Speaker 1: you were recording that, correct?
29:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, the Overtime Podcast is already up. Glad you pointed
29:39
Speaker 6: that out in the spurs a Hometown Remix... Man, they
29:42
Speaker 6: hit it out of the park. I'm not just saying
29:44
Speaker 6: this because I'm a broadcast team guy, but, man, myself,
29:49
Speaker 6: others were thinking, when's the anchor jersey going to come?
29:52
Speaker 2: It is crisp.
29:53
Speaker 6: It is clean. I can't wait to see that thing
29:56
Speaker 6: pop on Wednesday.
29:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks really great. It might even be in
29:59
Speaker 1: Matthew Wood's debut. So big, big game Wednesday for the Kraken.
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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Mike. We'll talk to you again soon, okay?
30:07
Speaker 6: Anytime, fellas. Thank you. Awesome.
30:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're the man, Mike. We'll come back.
30:10
Speaker 1: We'll get our no cliche keys to victory here on
30:14
Speaker 1: a game day between the Seahawks and Bears.
30:16
Speaker 2: Last segment with Hugh Millen, Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
30:18
Speaker 7: You hear the music.
30:34
Speaker 1: Chuck in the morning sports ready at 93.3 KJR FM.
30:37
Speaker 1: Chuck is on vacation. So myself, Anderson, Hirsch, Christopher kid
30:41
Speaker 1: filling in until he gets back. And we got humilling
30:43
Speaker 1: with us for one more segment. Uh, this would normally
30:46
Speaker 1: be our spot for one last thing, but since it
30:48
Speaker 1: is a Seahawks game day, we're going to do our
30:50
Speaker 1: classic segment. No cliche keys to victory. Uh, you're going
30:53
Speaker 1: to give your key to victory hue, but no cliches.
30:56
Speaker 1: I know you love to do cliches.
30:58
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.
30:59
Speaker 1: Uh, but no one in the trenches, no winning the
31:02
Speaker 1: turnover battle. Uh, I expect good things from your key
31:09
Speaker 1: to victory tonight.
31:09
Speaker 7: What do you got?
31:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, I try and stay away from cliches. But OK,
31:16
Speaker 5: Chicago's number four defensively. So we'll start with Seahawks offense
31:21
Speaker 5: real quick. Chicago number four defensively and man to man.
31:24
Speaker 5: So I think Seattle needs to target Cup and Horton defensively.
31:30
Speaker 5: a little bit more than they have and do it
31:32
Speaker 5: through condensed formations and try and get some rubs. Uh,
31:37
Speaker 5: if Horton's your pump returner, then he's good enough to
31:39
Speaker 5: throw a smoke screen out and try and let him
31:42
Speaker 5: make a play. Uh, And just get him going. Cup
31:46
Speaker 5: is great in those jet stream routes where he gets.
31:48
Speaker 7: In behind somebody and then has an option route, a choice.
31:52
Speaker 5: They have a term called CO, which is a choice
31:55
Speaker 5: out where it's locked to be an out. I think
31:58
Speaker 5: those type of routes with the protection. do half slides
32:02
Speaker 5: to Zabel. That could involve, so if you do a
32:05
Speaker 5: half slide with just a four-man rush, then that would
32:08
Speaker 5: have the center going to the right guard, Zabel, but
32:11
Speaker 5: then you have a dual read with the running back
32:13
Speaker 5: going to the left, and so Sam Darnold, as a
32:16
Speaker 5: right-handed quarterback, be aware of no blindside hits if you
32:21
Speaker 5: have the halfback dual reading to the left in an
32:23
Speaker 5: effort to block Jeffrey Simmons with the center read. sundale
32:27
Speaker 5: going to the right to help zabel in the running
32:30
Speaker 5: game uh the cx are outside zone they're sixth in
32:34
Speaker 5: uh rank ranked sixth in the league and in their
32:37
Speaker 5: percentages uh inside zone 19th and duo another inside zone
32:41
Speaker 5: is 29th that doesn't make sense to me if if
32:44
Speaker 5: emmanuel wilson is your running back i think you got
32:47
Speaker 5: to go more inside stay away from the outside zones
32:51
Speaker 5: um until you get more speed back to Defensively, defend
32:55
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams' right hand. Contain him in week one, the
33:01
Speaker 5: opener against Carolina. Caleb Williams had 239 yards outside the pocket.
33:08
Speaker 5: The next week against Minnesota, just 62. First downs from
33:11
Speaker 5: 9 to 3. Yards per play from 14.1 to 5.2.
33:16
Speaker 7: You have to keep.
33:17
Speaker 5: The right-handed quarterback in the pocket and not let him escape,
33:22
Speaker 5: particularly to his right side.
33:24
Speaker 7: Play action. Chicago with 80 snaps.
33:27
Speaker 5: Is number one, 33% of their plays are play action.
33:33
Speaker 5: That's also number one. Tyrese Knight, you're filling in for
33:39
Speaker 5: Drake Thomas. Don't bite up too much. Be aware that
33:42
Speaker 5: Colston Loveland could be right in behind you. My last point,
33:46
Speaker 5: we brought it up before. Chicago is number seven in
33:50
Speaker 5: their EPA on screen passes alone, and as great as
33:54
Speaker 5: Seattle's defense is, they're number one in the NFL in
33:56
Speaker 5: preventing the big plays. Technically, the explosive plays 20 yards
34:00
Speaker 5: or more. They are just 29th out of obviously 32
34:05
Speaker 5: teams in defending the screen as measured by EPA. So
34:09
Speaker 5: when you recognize the screen defensive lineman, you got to
34:13
Speaker 5: turn and chase. It's not just the guys in the
34:16
Speaker 5: back end. The defensive line can hunt that thing down
34:20
Speaker 5: from behind. There's a hustle component there, but there's also
34:23
Speaker 5: a recognition component. Don't get burned by the screens tonight.
34:27
Speaker 5: Give them one or two, but it can't be a
34:28
Speaker 5: big night if third down conversion is via screen.
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Speaker 1: That might have been the best. No cliche keys to
34:35
Speaker 1: victory answer in the history of this segment. Humil and
34:38
Speaker 1: the king of no cliches. Appreciate you hopping on the
34:41
Speaker 1: show today. We'll be with you again tomorrow for a
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Speaker 1: special edition for... We don't get yours? I'll throw mine
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Speaker 1: in there really quick. I'll throw mine in.
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Speaker 2: No, you're good.
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Speaker 1: You're the guy we want to hear from anyway, but
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Speaker 1: I'll throw.
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Speaker 2: Mine in there.
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Speaker 1: First down, super simple. Stay ahead of the chains, all right?
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Speaker 1: I think that is what has led to a lot
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Speaker 1: of the.
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Speaker 1: Issues with sam donald turned the ball over throwing it
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Speaker 1: 44 times a game that kind of stuff if you're
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Speaker 1: staying ahead of the chains going second and six you
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Speaker 1: know third and three instead of second and nine and
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Speaker 1: there's a sack in there third and 13 then you're
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Speaker 1: forced to be in a situation that the defense is
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Speaker 1: a lot more uh can key in on sam donald
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Speaker 1: throwing the ball so that's my key for tonight.
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Speaker 7: About christopher christopher last one Oh, my goodness.
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Speaker 5: I would say let's not attack Jeffrey.
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Speaker 1: Let's go around him, make him chase the play instead
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Speaker 1: of attacking him straight on.
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Speaker 7: I just fired him down. I love it. So there
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Speaker 7: we go. That's my non-cliché take. Yeah, get him tired. Beautiful, beautiful.
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Speaker 2: All right, Hugh, will you be on the 12th man
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Speaker 2: postgame tonight?
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Speaker 7: I'll be on with Ian at one. And then, yes,
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Speaker 7: postgame with Dick Fane, I believe. Excellent.
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Speaker 1: And then we'll be with you again tomorrow morning, breaking down, hopefully.
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Speaker 7: A Seahawks victory. Hopefully so.
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Speaker 6: Awesome.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 7: Hammer down. Go Hawks.
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