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Episode 67: Hoots Mon! · The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast

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Speaker 1: On this week's episode, Tom tells us about his trip
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Speaker 1: to Scotland. You know, I knew a bloke from Scotland once.
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Speaker 1: He were a steam enthusiast, bit like myself. Or instead
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Speaker 1: of tractors and engines and the sort, he were into
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Speaker 1: steam powered bagpipes. He'd say, Fred, you can only play
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Speaker 1: bagpipes for as long as you've hear it lungs were
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Speaker 1: a steam engine, as it does long as he keep
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Speaker 1: the fires lit. So he'd have these bloody great steam
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Speaker 1: vessels bellowing and blowing bagpipes for hours and hours at
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Speaker 1: a time. I'd find a quick excuse to shoot up
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Speaker 1: a bloody great chimney. But even at two hundred foot
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Speaker 1: in the air, I could stilling of the bloom on
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Speaker 1: things playing Scotland, the Braven, what have ye? Anyway, enjoy
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Speaker 1: this week's episode I'll see thee.
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Speaker 2: Tom, the greatest trick of podcaster ever, pulled the blue
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Speaker 2: according two episodes to cover himself while he was away
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Speaker 2: on holidays for a week. Which aware you're.
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Speaker 1: They all do it, and I apologize to people. The
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Speaker 1: reason why it came out early is because we had
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Speaker 1: ever recorded and we were literally heading for the boat
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Speaker 1: here and I'm editing that that Saturday morning. And I
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Speaker 1: meant that you can set it down the road, you
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Speaker 1: can kick it down the road for a few days,
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Speaker 1: which is what everybody does. That's why you'll hear people
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Speaker 1: talking about evergreen products or evergreen subjects. You know what
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Speaker 1: I mean. You're gone, So what's the top five roads
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Speaker 1: in Ireland?
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 1: And it's stuff you know?
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Speaker 2: And and I did hear like signposts?
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Speaker 1: I don't know, did I put? I did? So people
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Speaker 1: got it early going after happened after That's what happened.
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Speaker 1: It was literally the car was running out in the
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Speaker 1: yard and herself was gonna come on.
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Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm going to tell you? Nobody
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Speaker 2: gave out Tom. That was the course last week's summer
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Speaker 2: special Diggers episode exactly.
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Speaker 1: So it was an odd one anyway, which.
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Speaker 2: Was an odd one, and it was to cover mister
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Speaker 2: ROWANGI here while he was on his holidays more or not,
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Speaker 2: as we get it. But we're back in the saddle
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Speaker 2: with a regular episode of the Tom and Jerry Show.
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Speaker 2: I'm Jerry McBride, He's Tom, o'manny regular schedule programming.
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Speaker 1: Tom, you look you look fresh in fairness to you
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Speaker 1: have you been eating healthy? I feel like a bag
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Speaker 1: is sick right now. Like I've eaten more cakes. I've
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Speaker 1: eaten like a giant asshole for the last week. What
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Speaker 1: is it about holidays where you just go, well, you know,
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Speaker 1: clearly my own cornary health doesn't count on this week.
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Speaker 2: You just you just kind of hope that the travel
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Speaker 2: will just a ring four stone out here the no
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Speaker 2: thank you Tom for saying I look well, I don't
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Speaker 2: feel it, buddy. If I look well, then it's probably
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Speaker 2: whatever the skin equivalent is of hypothermia, that you just
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Speaker 2: feel really warm before you die. Oh yeah, I just
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Speaker 2: been chasing drink down into myself all week and eaten
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Speaker 2: like a savage as well. Here we are, Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 2: there's not a kick cat kits by me these days.
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Speaker 1: If for for savvy listeners who do follow me, and
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Speaker 1: you'll know that I was in Scotland and if anybody
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Speaker 1: knows one thing about Scotland, vitamins don't exist in Scotland,
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Speaker 1: they don't. It's a lovely place. I love it. But
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Speaker 1: thankfully the good wife. And remember that my time's going
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Speaker 1: to Edinburgh, where I came back with fucking scurvy, you know,
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Speaker 1: from the from the festival and stuff like that. She
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Speaker 1: brought multi vitems. But that's what just about kept my
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Speaker 1: teeth in my head and what bit of hair I
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Speaker 1: have left. But I to be fair, it was completely
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Speaker 1: my own doing, just eating that good absolute knob.
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Speaker 2: That's the that's the summer, Tom. You you boke up
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Speaker 2: in the summer and you shred down in the winter.
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Speaker 2: Hot hell do I know? Ah, But we're back with
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Speaker 2: a regular program here for you find folks, and we're
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Speaker 2: we're gonna launch into it fairly live because we have
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Speaker 2: a lot to cover, a lot of going to cover
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Speaker 2: the day. So we're going to launch in with this
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Speaker 2: week's Tom. This week. Oh god, you landed right back
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Speaker 2: in time for some big news, buddy. So let's get
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Speaker 2: into it in the weekly what have you. This is
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Speaker 2: a very complicated cad. You know, a lot of i's,
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Speaker 2: a lot of outs, a lot of what have you,
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Speaker 2: and a lot of strands to keep in my head. Man,
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Speaker 2: he did it again, Tom, Like he's on the tool.
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Speaker 2: He's back on the tools. He's back on the tools.
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Speaker 2: We could make this the Donald Trump Podcast, you know
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Speaker 2: it could. Every week he does, he pulls something new
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Speaker 2: out of the bag. But it has to be something
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Speaker 2: that's pertinent to the interests of Tom and Jerry. So
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Speaker 2: this week it is Donald Trump has announced that he
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Speaker 2: is building a two hundred million dollars nine thousand square
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Speaker 2: foot extension onto the White House.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you now, I was kind of looking through it.
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Speaker 1: Unless he's got he's gonna use all his own contractors, surely,
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Speaker 1: because you wouldn't. You wouldn't come in under two hundred
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Speaker 1: You would not beat that. That's a fair price. If
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Speaker 1: you're going to tilet the whole lot, that's nine like,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot, a lot in there, there's a lot
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Speaker 1: in it. I probably I went over, Mike went at
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Speaker 1: about two ten, I'd say, just to cover for Ancillarison
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Speaker 1: and Sundrys as they say.
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Speaker 2: Well, he's he's getting value from money. Time when you
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Speaker 2: compare it to say, for example, a bike shed that
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Speaker 2: we bought.
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Speaker 1: Now now you're fucking acting. Now you're talking for what.
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Speaker 2: We paid for a bike shed outside government buildings. Two
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Speaker 2: hundred million for a ballroom doesn't seem that bad, Jess.
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Speaker 1: Now when you make that comparison, and what was it
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Speaker 1: a million pounds or half million pounds for a wall
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Speaker 1: outside of the guard to the garda. Yeah, yeah, that's
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Speaker 1: actually that's that's why I was reckoned, as Jesus, trades
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Speaker 1: must be cheap in Washington, d C. By all accounts,
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Speaker 1: when they would have like it was kind of funny,
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Speaker 1: like you know, something needed to be built on by
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Speaker 1: the sounds of things anyway, But of course went as
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Speaker 1: him he's going to make a ballocks and pat himself
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Speaker 1: on the back about it, and he's going to be
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Speaker 1: a battle.
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Speaker 2: Rather than just trump ballroom, yes yeah.
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Speaker 1: Rather than just saying nothing and just build a fucking thing,
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Speaker 1: he has to make a big deal about it. But
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Speaker 1: when I was reading that through, I was like, Jesus,
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Speaker 1: have you not enough when he's fucking played now doing this.
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Speaker 1: Apparently he offered to throw up one where they completely
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Speaker 1: they completely like, I mean, they took a bat on
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Speaker 1: this one because he offered to throw a hundred million
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Speaker 1: to build one back into the nine years ago. Apparently
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Speaker 1: he could do the same job for one hundred million
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Speaker 1: when Obama was there, So that a bath was taken
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Speaker 1: on that one by fucking Trump to fucking need it.
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Speaker 1: But by all accounts, when they do have a bunch
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Speaker 1: of people over and they have a big, big event.
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Speaker 1: Rather than going to a hotel up the road, they
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Speaker 1: put up a fucking marquee. You wouldn't do that for
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Speaker 1: a fucking wedding, like you know, I mean this, Oh,
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Speaker 1: they don't have the capability to host them. So what
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Speaker 1: they do is they throw up a marquee off the
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Speaker 1: butt end of the gable end. I suppose maybe down
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Speaker 1: a few palettes and a few sheets supply or whatever
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Speaker 1: you have yourself, and uh, you know, and then maybe
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Speaker 1: a DJ at the end. I don't know what the
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Speaker 1: overall crack is, but that's what they were doing. They
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Speaker 1: were tucking marquee.
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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you how Like I don't keep up
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Speaker 2: to date with exactly the gummons and goes of the
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Speaker 2: White House, but I do know one thing, and that's
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Speaker 2: when it comes to renovations, you don't renovate a place
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Speaker 2: you tend to leave.
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Speaker 1: No right now. So although I do, YEAHS told us
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Speaker 1: that who knows what's going on with Who's who.
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Speaker 2: Knows what's going Like I said, we could make this
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Speaker 2: a Donald Trump podcast and every week be talking about
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Speaker 2: and here's what he said about Saipan and all this
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Speaker 2: kind of crack. But this one is you know, this
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Speaker 2: one got our interest because we are fans of construction.
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Speaker 2: If nothing else. We can't say that we're handing our
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Speaker 2: heart Republicans. But we love we love being on the tools.
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Speaker 1: Time, no bother. I mean, if look, he's a prized
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Speaker 1: ballocks from what I can make out, but if he
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Speaker 1: did want me to run the job.
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Speaker 2: Take us through, Tom, take us take us through how
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Speaker 2: we go about renovating this.
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Speaker 1: So it's by all accounts, what's there is it's not
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Speaker 1: big enough. What's there right, the there's the ourself's office
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Speaker 1: is there, and somebody else, it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 2: There's a couple offices, there's another, there's a new babba
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Speaker 2: on the way, and we need we need a new house.
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Speaker 2: There you go, you need new room.
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Speaker 1: So let's we can still speak in this this I
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Speaker 1: bought this is because by the same thing, they're putting
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Speaker 1: an extension onto the side of the house. Right, that's
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Speaker 1: what they're doing.
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Speaker 2: That's what they're doing.
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Speaker 1: Now you've had a granny granny flash, a granny ballroom
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Speaker 1: fucking their BnB decided for a couple of Japanese students. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: there's a so you you have a couple of choices
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Speaker 1: in this this scenario, you either extend what's there or
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Speaker 1: build up and around whatever is there, and which in
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Speaker 1: its own right. You know, you think I'm saving a
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Speaker 1: few pounds because the block work is already there in that,
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Speaker 1: but this owl blockwork chair in houses that, And I
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Speaker 1: don't care what anybody says. Yes, true, there were better tradesmen,
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Speaker 1: the more diligent tradesmen back in the day. But there
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Speaker 1: were fucking cowboys back in the day too, And the
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Speaker 1: standard of stuff wasn't there, do you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: You could take a block back, you know, some blocks grand,
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Speaker 1: but you pick an out block from the seventies. Now
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Speaker 1: you see it and you're like, uh huh, there's an
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Speaker 1: awful lot of aggregate here versus the ratio of aggregate
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Speaker 1: to cement here is not what it should be.
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Speaker 2: These buns are more rice crispy than chocolate.
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Speaker 1: Now you're talking. So I would always be of a
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Speaker 1: fan of fucking blow out what's there, fucking rip out
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Speaker 1: the page on the copy book, get a new page
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Speaker 1: starting starting you. I'd be a fan of blessing that
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Speaker 1: thing clean off and selling it in chunks to people
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Speaker 1: who want to buy bits of the White House, much
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Speaker 1: like I don't know the Berlin Wall back in the day.
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Speaker 2: You're you're speaking Trump's language here, and that he can
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Speaker 2: sell off. He will be a fan of Tom Soon's.
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Speaker 2: He's all here right now. So you know he's one
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Speaker 2: in seven eighth year because he lost a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Isn't that absolutely legitimate assassination account? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you could have fuck hit the fatlus arsat
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Speaker 1: Avenger from that, but anyway, he so that would be
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Speaker 1: my suggest will be to chop that up into places.
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Speaker 1: But look that aside. Let's talk to the real people
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Speaker 1: out there. You're not building on a Borderman to the
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Speaker 1: side your house, but I would be of if your
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Speaker 1: house is pre nineteen ninety, I would fucking knock it down,
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Speaker 1: knock off whatever whatever shit is there, Knock it off
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Speaker 1: to fuck because the tune and throne, you would have
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Speaker 1: to try and tie in with the old one, Oh
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Speaker 1: her rist above your pains pains to try and deal
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Speaker 1: with it. But so you were as well to take
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Speaker 1: a few steps back, clean the slate and starting you
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Speaker 1: if you are an extension on and hypothetically on another one,
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Speaker 1: if you are going to use what's already there, fair enough,
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Speaker 1: but you are constricted typically unless you can work what's
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Speaker 1: already there into the new build, and you're constricted to
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Speaker 1: the size and shape of it already. And a lot
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Speaker 1: of things, as people will find by today's standards, a
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Speaker 1: lot of things don't from the if it is from
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Speaker 1: the eighties or nineties, they don't fall under the same measurements.
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Speaker 1: So you find kitchen presses have changed slightly with metric
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Speaker 1: from imperial to metric and things like that. They just
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Speaker 1: don't And you're there in your do you know what
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're the mind.
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Speaker 2: With the skirting just doesn't match.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're there shoehorning in things, and you're now you're
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Speaker 1: taking a fucking shave spoke to things and you're gonna
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Speaker 1: ra far when you would have listened to Tom and
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Speaker 1: just knocked the fucking thing down to hell and starting
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Speaker 1: you so on a high point. I just literally came
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Speaker 1: off the phone just before they we just recorded with
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Speaker 1: friends of ours who are just cut ground. Congratulations. Then
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Speaker 1: they just they got their plan and they've just cut
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Speaker 1: ground for they've listened. Would you believe they've listened to
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Speaker 1: the Tom of Jerry Show How to Put the House
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Speaker 1: about six times and they rang for pointers. They had notes,
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Speaker 1: they had questions on each one, so it was great.
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Speaker 1: They're they're cutting ground for foundation this morning, and I'm
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Speaker 1: delighted for them. So that is where you probably go
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Speaker 1: next to. Foundation needs to go in. You need to
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Speaker 1: consider what's going up. Yeah, you pouring mass concrete.
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Speaker 2: This is this is now Tom, this is where like
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Speaker 2: in these government buildings and all these historical lands and
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Speaker 2: all this kind of things, they just can't grow in
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Speaker 2: with with a JCB and start taking.
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Speaker 1: No, this is the thing you're if it is on
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Speaker 1: especially if it's going to be in or around the
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Speaker 1: likes say the likes of the White House. Not your
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Speaker 1: own person place, but the likes of the White House,
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Speaker 1: you will need archaeologists on site. They probably have to
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Speaker 1: do core samples and everything prior to build a building
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Speaker 1: up that scenario. But if you're doing if it's a
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Speaker 1: government building, I mean for all intensive purpose, that is
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Speaker 1: just a big house that you're going you're going at,
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Speaker 1: but there will have to be you you'd have more
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Speaker 1: eyes dotted than they needed to be honest with, because
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Speaker 1: everybody comes for a lickti nettle when it comes to
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Speaker 1: anything government.
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Speaker 2: You just want to make sure that you're not just
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Speaker 2: about to put a pick axe down through the skull
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Speaker 2: of Abraham Lincoln or whatever.
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Speaker 1: Well that's it. I mean, you would hope that a
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Speaker 1: building like that that there has been ground surveys done before,
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Speaker 1: but there's only so far you can go too. But
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Speaker 1: when you are digging for a foundation, which we've had,
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Speaker 1: I've had in the past, and I know digger drivers
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Speaker 1: are driving Banana's one fellow used to keep it waiting
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Speaker 1: near this who used to keep a bag in small
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Speaker 1: dinosaurs it up in the cab with him, and you'd
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Speaker 1: have these young I suppose, you know, wide eyed archaeolic
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Speaker 1: young archaeologists staring in hoping to see maybe the the
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Speaker 1: the bow of a fucking cork, or you know, at
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Speaker 1: the corner stone of like a new version of fucking
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Speaker 1: I don't know, some some iron age of Bronze Age settlement, settlement.
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Speaker 1: And here was this master. Every so often you throw
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Speaker 1: a fucking try serotops out what wa whoa, whoa whoa,
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Speaker 1: to be all into the hole after back up the digger,
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Speaker 1: get out the fucking trowels, and there'll be this fucking right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I can only imagine if you're
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Speaker 2: digging ground in the White House, Tom, that you'll be
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Speaker 2: keeping an eye out for like a Civil War silver
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Speaker 2: dollar or some shit like that. Be like a just
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Speaker 2: pocketing that left right and center.
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Speaker 1: One hundred percent, like one hundred percent you will, But
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Speaker 1: I mean that contract, it would be very interesting who
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Speaker 1: would get the full contract on that? And I would doubt.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Can the president grant his own company,
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Speaker 1: his own construction companies? I don't know, Kenny, Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean I do.
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Speaker 2: We're not We're not. We're dealing with Donald Trump here.
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Speaker 2: We're not dealing with a heatly ray.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I doubt he Yeah, but things
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Speaker 1: will be considered to because you're putting a new roof
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Speaker 1: up where there was never a roof, so things like
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Speaker 1: new drain is just gonna have to probably be considered too, Jerry.
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Speaker 1: You can't just go fucking up new roof, which is
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Speaker 1: the thing that's going to catch the red wet stuff
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Speaker 1: falling out of the sky fucking down a pipe.
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Speaker 2: Not just the wet stuff falling out of the sky.
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Speaker 1: This is the.
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Speaker 2: Ballroom for hundreds of one hundreds of guess eating the
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Speaker 2: finest food, knowing the man so sewerge system.
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Speaker 1: But this is going to have to what you're talking
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Speaker 1: about serious things now you've you've got up to date.
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Speaker 1: Grease traps, like the building for commercial cooking is a nightmare,
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Speaker 1: fucking imagine, especially in this country anyways, an absolute nightmare
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Speaker 1: for you've had like three different types of traps for
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Speaker 1: catching different things. Oh, it's it's absolutely crazy the levels
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Speaker 1: you have to go to. So that's where the price
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Speaker 1: would go. Through the roof and something like that. I'm
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Speaker 1: guessing they're going to flat roof it like and just
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe bring up a nice fucking watch of
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Speaker 1: color across it, like because to put I mean, the
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Speaker 1: rest of it seems to be in flat roofs form,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it'll be the cheapest
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Speaker 1: one to do, the fastest one to do. Just drowp
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Speaker 1: concrete slabs, fucking tear them essentially.
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Speaker 2: Me ask you one last question, Tom, because we could
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Speaker 2: talk about this all and everyone asks you one last question.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you. Now this is the extensional note
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Speaker 2: of the way. What should he put in this? Let's
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Speaker 2: bring out your inner garmout, Bannon. What is he needs?
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Speaker 2: Is he needs solar panels? Does he need v lux?
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Speaker 2: When this? Tom? What is the one thing this man has.
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Speaker 1: To put in this. Do you know what I see? Like,
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Speaker 1: I don't Trump is a gaudy bastard. And I would
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Speaker 1: argue he's designed and all the rest of it. You know,
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Speaker 1: you should have a look at what they're doing at
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Speaker 1: the top end in other countries. Yes, but I see
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Speaker 1: it being golden faux bamboo chairs that you see it
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Speaker 1: every fucking what I see like his own face is
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Speaker 1: probably gonna be on the carpet somewhere. There'll be tea
15:42
Speaker 1: embossed into all sorts of fucking gold leaf. It'd be
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Speaker 1: absolutely grotesque. If it was me, I will I'd bring
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Speaker 1: in the people that designed the nightclubs in Vegas. Oh,
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Speaker 1: and I'd go I would have somebody like Tiesto doing
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Speaker 1: a set where the whole ceiling of flips on itself
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Speaker 1: like you're in some sort of psychedelic.
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Speaker 2: Like it's like it's the sphere in Vegas. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 2: all one big screen.
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Speaker 1: That's what I would have. I would have the entire
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Speaker 1: thing ultra floor and everything ultra immersive where you're inside
16:14
Speaker 1: the eye of a cow. Do you know what I mean?
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Speaker 2: So when you when you bring over like the ambassador
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Speaker 2: to Japan or whatever like that, and you sit them
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Speaker 2: down and you just you just replay all around them
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Speaker 2: scenes from Hiroshima and yeah, yeah, you know, I'm not
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Speaker 2: gonna say we're gonna go back to what we did before,
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Speaker 2: but look what we did before, buddies. So maybe you
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Speaker 2: take these darts. What do you think?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you do. You take tie your shoe. That's
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Speaker 1: a little tighter around here, sound, because I just have bamboo.
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Speaker 1: The speed of bamboo growing actually up around the ceilings
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Speaker 1: like in and a fully immersive, full the.
16:47
Speaker 2: Immersive forty sort of thing. That's okay, Yeah, there you go,
16:50
Speaker 2: There you go. What mister Trump will keep an eye
16:52
Speaker 2: on this as it goes forward, not that.
16:54
Speaker 1: We're any there's no way he's going to bring it
16:56
Speaker 1: in two hundred million. By the way, I will talk
16:57
Speaker 1: about that, and you'll never hear. You're not gonna hear.
17:00
Speaker 1: Went way over because apparently it's gonna beautiful and way
17:02
Speaker 1: under fucking core. Yeah oh yeah, yeah, just shut up
17:05
Speaker 1: and fucking do it. Will you just get on with
17:06
Speaker 1: the fucking than somebody doing a good thing if it
17:10
Speaker 1: is I suppose it is a good thing and that
17:11
Speaker 1: it needs even if in the long term, it will
17:14
Speaker 1: need it is because the tent. The tent is no good.
17:16
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? A tent like you
17:18
Speaker 1: can't market if you're bringing over the fucking you know,
17:20
Speaker 1: the president of the Uganda. Do you know what I mean?
17:22
Speaker 1: I'm not a way over and fucking into.
17:24
Speaker 2: A marquee by into into an eight by eight pop.
17:26
Speaker 1: Up piling in the heat like do you know what
17:29
Speaker 1: I mean? The fucking violentce smell, that smell of robbery vinyl,
17:32
Speaker 1: you know that you get?
17:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the whole thing on the slope. Yeah, well,
17:38
Speaker 2: come here, we're gonna bust on Tom. Okay, because you know,
17:41
Speaker 2: as I said, we could make this the Trump Podcast.
17:43
Speaker 2: Every week that's your Trump Now for about twelve weeks, folks,
17:46
Speaker 2: and let's say we come back from again unless he
17:47
Speaker 2: does something spectacularly awful. But what are the odds? Tom?
17:52
Speaker 2: Every week we talk, Yeah, they just ladding that ladding
17:55
Speaker 2: the other lad. So this week it's actually a lad.
17:59
Speaker 2: You met Lad, you got to know very very well
18:03
Speaker 2: on your sojourn away, buddy, So why don't we have
18:05
Speaker 2: a little chat about that in the second segment of
18:08
Speaker 2: the show, which we call this.
18:10
Speaker 1: Lade Now there's that guy. I'm putting on the stylish
18:15
Speaker 1: sunglasses for this nice think about what do you think
18:17
Speaker 1: about that? No? I can't, I can't. I feel like
18:19
Speaker 1: an asshole wearing sunglasses than doors. Yes, we the lad
18:23
Speaker 1: we were away in Scotland. We did a bit of
18:27
Speaker 1: a kind of I'm weird that'd family man. No, although
18:33
Speaker 1: you would have loved it, you would, you.
18:34
Speaker 2: Would have loved for love and invitation, buddy. Yeah, there
18:37
Speaker 2: was room for you.
18:38
Speaker 1: There was room for you. Honestly, we we.
18:40
Speaker 2: Always room for McBride in Scotland anyway.
18:45
Speaker 1: It's always a stark in winter, feller. We're always room
18:47
Speaker 1: for McBride in Scotland.
18:48
Speaker 2: So come here, where in where in Scotland were you?
18:50
Speaker 2: And who did you fall across?
18:52
Speaker 1: So we went with about a year ago, himself, the
18:55
Speaker 1: little fellow. Here he was. He's mad from monsters mons,
19:00
Speaker 1: loves them, loves them, loves them. The more midical the better.
19:03
Speaker 1: But he had this thing for his mind, locked onto lockness,
19:06
Speaker 1: the Lockness monster. And he said can we go there
19:08
Speaker 1: one day? And I say, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, And
19:10
Speaker 1: ourself said, let's call his bluff and let's actually go
19:13
Speaker 1: love it. It's not a handy place to get.
19:15
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that where is tom Lockness?
19:18
Speaker 1: So it's it's where the top if if in Ireland terms,
19:23
Speaker 1: it'll be the top end of as people at loan.
19:28
Speaker 1: If you so Midland ajacent North Midlands, we'll say all right,
19:33
Speaker 1: and you're getting so you you gotta you gotta get
19:37
Speaker 1: the boat. You can fly to London and up to
19:39
Speaker 1: Inverness and come and Inverness is the is the outlet
19:42
Speaker 1: is the the final the estuary, you know what I
19:44
Speaker 1: mean of Lockness and then it tries. It's twenty nearly
19:48
Speaker 1: twenty three miles long south of that. That's how long
19:51
Speaker 1: the fucker.
19:51
Speaker 2: Is right, that's yeah, the hiding place in there.
19:54
Speaker 1: I can tell you now. So we came into we
19:56
Speaker 1: when Karen Rhine air Sure and then on up you
20:00
Speaker 1: pretty much followed the line through the highlands, stunning and
20:03
Speaker 1: then driving the Omanni mobile. I got new tires at
20:07
Speaker 1: their service, thank hook. And a little tip for anybody
20:11
Speaker 1: whose air con is running out at the minute and
20:12
Speaker 1: you've been quoted ludicrous prices, I can I can tell
20:17
Speaker 1: you you can do it yourself for thirty euros. Until
20:21
Speaker 1: you know. I was absolutely I was so delighted and
20:25
Speaker 1: raging that I've been quoted these prices going right, so
20:28
Speaker 1: I can just okay, anyway up we go he was.
20:32
Speaker 1: We were all up to ninety. It was glorious. The
20:34
Speaker 1: weather was stunning. It is a drive and after make
20:37
Speaker 1: sure your tires are fresh. I will tell you that because
20:40
Speaker 1: you won't get above fifth gear most of the way.
20:44
Speaker 1: You were hitting bends that are at the very cute.
20:47
Speaker 1: They're acute.
20:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you got a.
20:50
Speaker 1: Wall wall rock on and Douglas furs on one side,
20:53
Speaker 1: big ass lakes Loch Loman. First, we stopped there at
20:56
Speaker 1: the aquarium to see some sharks. Never been to an
20:58
Speaker 1: aquarium before, very for myself and Dubay saw sharks of
21:02
Speaker 1: all sorts. Got to yeah, got out of there and
21:05
Speaker 1: headed straight up out of airshore into lockness all the
21:09
Speaker 1: way along, and it was it was as jaw dropping
21:13
Speaker 1: as you imagine. Right, there's no ways that the sea
21:17
Speaker 1: it can't be that huge. On we go. We we
21:21
Speaker 1: stayed in the most glorious abbey at the very start
21:24
Speaker 1: of in a place called Fort Augustus, Fort Augustus and
21:33
Speaker 1: just after Fort William, Port Augustus, and we we were
21:39
Speaker 1: open minded people wi you know, and they don't do
21:42
Speaker 1: one thing. I will say if it was here they
21:43
Speaker 1: do a bit more deadly now or for America, they
21:45
Speaker 1: would have ruined it with you know, they don't hammer it.
21:49
Speaker 1: They're kind of like, well, it's like it's not to
21:51
Speaker 1: be made a mockery of like there's nobody. It's not
21:54
Speaker 1: a dilly daly silly silly team.
21:56
Speaker 2: They are deadly serious about this.
21:58
Speaker 1: Because we went we went right with an open mind, going, well,
22:02
Speaker 1: how surely, hardly hardly. It's only when you start to
22:06
Speaker 1: get into the numbers, Jar, I'm gonna quote some numbers
22:10
Speaker 1: to you.
22:11
Speaker 2: By the way, this is we we are. We are
22:13
Speaker 2: talking about the locknest monster. Is this lad the lock
22:16
Speaker 2: ness monster? Nobody needs to wonder who or not? You know,
22:19
Speaker 2: you know, some of our listeners might be all that
22:21
Speaker 2: fucking quick Tom, that's true, that's true, that's true. We
22:24
Speaker 2: love you. They'll give them five hours.
22:26
Speaker 1: So here we go. Is it a plicius or is it?
22:30
Speaker 2: What is?
22:31
Speaker 1: If? We don't know because before we go on any tour,
22:35
Speaker 1: before we go on any tour, which we did, we
22:37
Speaker 1: went out and we went up to the museum and
22:39
Speaker 1: everything's stunning set up at the museum, but we went
22:41
Speaker 1: to see any of it, started to look into numbers,
22:44
Speaker 1: and its widest point, it's nearly two and a half
22:46
Speaker 1: kilometers white, right right, Think of how that distance down
22:51
Speaker 1: the road waiting here, strap your brown for this one jar.
22:55
Speaker 1: At its deepest point, it's nearly eight hundred meters deep. Fuck,
23:00
Speaker 1: that's almost a kilometer down light and the waters. When
23:05
Speaker 1: you look at a jar, you know, water's gonna be murky,
23:08
Speaker 1: all right. I mean it looks like well brewed coffee,
23:11
Speaker 1: every bit of it right to the edge, right, I
23:13
Speaker 1: mean right to the edge. You're not seeing you're not
23:15
Speaker 1: seeing little leaves that the you know it starts is
23:17
Speaker 1: gonna be thinned towards the edge. No, it is brood
23:21
Speaker 1: coffee all the way to the edge. Like it is.
23:25
Speaker 1: You could fit every in that void. That is the
23:28
Speaker 1: twenty two mile whatever its twenty two and a half,
23:30
Speaker 1: what's twenty three miles? I guess it's probably closer to
23:32
Speaker 1: thirty five. It's a marathon exactly. So you if all
23:37
Speaker 1: the water was gone out of it, you could fit
23:39
Speaker 1: no problem, every lake and river in Wales and England
23:44
Speaker 1: in it, every bit of their capacity to the Thames,
23:48
Speaker 1: the avon every other big ass river and lake and
23:51
Speaker 1: the whole all the rest of you ca can fit
23:52
Speaker 1: in there.
23:53
Speaker 2: Right well, it sounds like there's plenty of hiding place.
23:56
Speaker 1: Every human, every human on Earth could fit in that hole.
23:59
Speaker 1: Jar every human right now on Earth, all seven eight
24:02
Speaker 1: billion of us.
24:03
Speaker 2: I'm willing to send every human on Earth into that
24:05
Speaker 2: whole time. If they find me a monster, tell me
24:07
Speaker 2: this and tell me no more. Luckness monster is always
24:10
Speaker 2: something that I had heard of, the same way you
24:12
Speaker 2: hear a bigfoot. But I have no idea where the
24:14
Speaker 2: legend comes from. Tom is this how old is the
24:17
Speaker 2: legend of the luckness Man?
24:18
Speaker 1: So this is the thing it goes back to. It's
24:23
Speaker 1: kind of based right. The first story is based on
24:26
Speaker 1: Saint Columba, the Irish Saint right, who was bringing basically
24:31
Speaker 1: he was bringing Christianity to the peaks they call him,
24:33
Speaker 1: which would have been you know, it's a nice way
24:36
Speaker 1: of saying peak. You know they were they were the
24:39
Speaker 1: watch MC call it, did pagan pe folk of Scotland
24:42
Speaker 1: at the fucking Yeah. So Saint Columbus, the story goes
24:49
Speaker 1: landed on to this land of pagans up around the lakes,
24:52
Speaker 1: because you know, monst of a good water based scenario
24:55
Speaker 1: and Uppi lands and this lad was being absolutely and based.
25:00
Speaker 1: They buy this long naked beast that was coming out
25:03
Speaker 1: of the watch them call it. It was about to
25:04
Speaker 1: buy bite him in half and half. No, this other
25:08
Speaker 1: chap in half Columbus held up the cross the cruise
25:11
Speaker 1: fix and I actually a bastard or something to that effect.
25:15
Speaker 1: And now so that's we're talking back fourth century kind
25:17
Speaker 1: of stuff like right, okay, so he he drove this
25:21
Speaker 1: beast back down. And since then there's been mythical stories
25:24
Speaker 1: passed on, you know what I mean, same way like
25:26
Speaker 1: the Selki and I suppose these other ones, these other
25:29
Speaker 1: cryptids as indeed. But then when it came with the museum,
25:33
Speaker 1: we went to where it came to. It was the
25:36
Speaker 1: which had been converted. It was a hotel once upon
25:39
Speaker 1: it time. We're the first real kind of holy shit
25:41
Speaker 1: sighting in nineteen thirty six. The lady who owned the hotel,
25:45
Speaker 1: who was a straight enough shooter, she did she didn't
25:48
Speaker 1: bullshit around. She came steaming in. I'm after seeing it.
25:52
Speaker 1: I'm after seeing that big, long naked horrible yolk sticking
25:57
Speaker 1: out of the water, big disgusting, rotten beast of it
26:00
Speaker 1: with a big neck, and it plunged its way back
26:02
Speaker 1: down and all the signs of it sounded like a
26:04
Speaker 1: placius or plsius or whatever they call them.
26:07
Speaker 2: And tell me, Tom, is this is this where we
26:08
Speaker 2: get the famous picture of the Luckness Monster.
26:11
Speaker 1: This is the one, the one that's the kind of
26:15
Speaker 1: that it's a bit grainy and it's a bit that
26:18
Speaker 1: one that's actually a fake, right, So a fellow fake
26:20
Speaker 1: that a guy came down from or came up from
26:24
Speaker 1: London with he was also he was like national geographic
26:28
Speaker 1: of the time, you know, probably probably killed a few
26:31
Speaker 1: pigmies in his time, you know, that kind of one
26:33
Speaker 1: of these lads who went off on the great the
26:34
Speaker 1: Grand Tour and stuff. And he actually had a little
26:37
Speaker 1: floating device underneath that and faked it. And so yeah,
26:41
Speaker 1: acted the ballocks. But since then there has been like
26:46
Speaker 1: there has i mean astronomical money put into surveying this thing, right,
26:51
Speaker 1: But what they have come across is they have not
26:56
Speaker 1: irrefutable evidence, but they have evidence, like what the fuck
27:00
Speaker 1: can that be? They have? So there's like a giant
27:04
Speaker 1: fin on an official photograph, a thin that can only
27:07
Speaker 1: be described to something you would see, you know, the
27:09
Speaker 1: diamond shaped fin of a police sor yes, can't explain it.
27:13
Speaker 1: Huge thing, What an old fuck is that? And these
27:14
Speaker 1: are experts from all over the world and they've surveyed it,
27:18
Speaker 1: never found any solid hue. Then all of a sudden
27:20
Speaker 1: they'll run over something. It's like, well, we can't get
27:23
Speaker 1: down to that because that would crush anything. We'd say,
27:25
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And we can't get down
27:26
Speaker 1: fast enough. This thing is moving four hundred meters under
27:29
Speaker 1: the surface. What but what can it be?
27:32
Speaker 2: So could that be?
27:33
Speaker 1: They've found over three hundred different three three hundred different
27:37
Speaker 1: types of DNA that they have never seen, the like
27:39
Speaker 1: unreported uncategorized DNA from different things down there, from just
27:44
Speaker 1: samples that they've taken below. And they're like, we can't
27:48
Speaker 1: we can't discount this, We can't verify it, but we
27:52
Speaker 1: sure shit can't discount it because now all signs they
27:56
Speaker 1: would go okay with reptilian the water's too cold, there's
27:58
Speaker 1: no way. Then what the find up the fucking road. Yeah,
28:02
Speaker 1: they can live in fresh water. That's what they found, right,
28:06
Speaker 1: But they're also saying, oh, there wouldn't be enough fresh
28:08
Speaker 1: dis fresh test sturgeon firm. The wouldn't be enough fresh fish.
28:11
Speaker 1: There isn't enough vegetation for them to eat. But the
28:14
Speaker 1: argument was what we think we always were always at
28:16
Speaker 1: the cost where we think we know right, then we
28:18
Speaker 1: find oh, these fuckers are able to eat rocks, you
28:21
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, do you know so there's there's.
28:26
Speaker 2: We're talking dinosaurs here, Tom, Like we're best guessing an
28:28
Speaker 2: awful lot of.
28:29
Speaker 1: It, best guessing like these guys could have had little
28:32
Speaker 1: like sequence for skins.
28:33
Speaker 2: Probably so Tom, like everything I've ever seen of this beast,
28:36
Speaker 2: it makes it look like as you saw pleas ur ah,
28:43
Speaker 2: a dinosaur, a dinosaur fish for those of you who like,
28:46
Speaker 2: which is like a big long neck brontosaurs looking dude
28:50
Speaker 2: with fins instead of eggs for all intentsive purposes. A
28:53
Speaker 2: hard they trying to claim now surely not trying to
28:56
Speaker 2: claim that this is the one fella that's been living
28:57
Speaker 2: here for fourteen hundred years? Is there a family of
29:01
Speaker 2: these guys? Is that is that the is that the concept?
29:04
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking? I asked the fella who was
29:06
Speaker 1: previous doing the torus. It's a pass, I mean sure,
29:09
Speaker 1: you have a canal. You blested a canal through to
29:12
Speaker 1: like link Loch Loman and all the rest of it
29:14
Speaker 1: to link these other ones. Are all these different lakes
29:17
Speaker 1: in their link?
29:18
Speaker 2: Now?
29:18
Speaker 1: Could they be linked another way? As could there be
29:22
Speaker 1: giant chasms that we don't know about, I mean your
29:25
Speaker 1: underground caves and things. Yeah, yeah, giant ones. So we
29:28
Speaker 1: don't we just nobody. Nobody knows because nobody has been
29:33
Speaker 1: in these places, right, And you could see the guy
29:35
Speaker 1: looking at me going, oh, yeah, yes, I supposed there
29:39
Speaker 1: could be. Yeah, absolutely, so there was. There was. Because
29:43
Speaker 1: my question was like, if they're hiding them whatever, Maybe
29:47
Speaker 1: it's a thing that hibernates for fifty years. We've all
29:49
Speaker 1: seen cheaper screepers, do you know what I mean? Wells
29:53
Speaker 1: can go to sleep for fifty years under the earth under.
29:56
Speaker 2: The theoretically, so theoretically this is a dinosaur or fish.
30:00
Speaker 2: We're just going to call it that that survived the
30:03
Speaker 2: extinction when the meteor hit and scorched every inch of
30:07
Speaker 2: this planet. Lockness was just so deep that air man
30:13
Speaker 2: survived the worst of it. That's or some version of
30:16
Speaker 2: him did and has evolved down through the years. Tell
30:19
Speaker 2: you the roaming beast that we know today.
30:21
Speaker 1: That is the exact hypothesis of a certain five year
30:24
Speaker 1: old I swear to god that was literally the nexus
30:29
Speaker 1: of the whole journey, like about a year ago. He went, So,
30:32
Speaker 1: you're saying, if the rock hit and killed Everton, how
30:35
Speaker 1: where do we come from? And where did the cat
30:38
Speaker 1: come from? Where did the dog come from? Something survived
30:39
Speaker 1: some sort of saying there's a chance, Yeah, that's literally
30:42
Speaker 1: any way. And plus did the kill everything in the water?
30:44
Speaker 1: I went, yeah, no, by a large kid? So Tom,
30:49
Speaker 1: one last question for you on this lad, the Lockness monster.
30:53
Speaker 1: You've seen You've posted a couple of images from him
30:56
Speaker 1: from the various centers and whatnot. Yeah, you've seen there.
31:00
Speaker 1: Some of them are quite cartoony, and some of them are.
31:03
Speaker 2: Like terrifying, like shred of flesh, demon beasts. What do
31:09
Speaker 2: you think he looks like?
31:10
Speaker 1: I think it's a giant fish. I think it's a big,
31:13
Speaker 1: massive fucking fish that we've never seen the like that before.
31:16
Speaker 1: I think it's some sort of what would you call it?
31:20
Speaker 1: Will No, I think it's more like a big fucking sturgeon,
31:25
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? One of these But
31:27
Speaker 1: like we saw little. We saw a thing in the
31:29
Speaker 1: in the in the aquarium jar. It was the size
31:33
Speaker 1: of a fuck a wheelly bit this thing, And I
31:37
Speaker 1: was how old is that thing? And we're like, oh,
31:39
Speaker 1: that particular one is like ninety years old. How was
31:41
Speaker 1: he going to get? There were maybe two hundred?
31:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know the sharks floating around that are like,
31:47
Speaker 2: you know, four hundred years old or some such like that.
31:49
Speaker 1: What that guy could easily be that guy and you
31:53
Speaker 1: have him kept in the in a tank, he could
31:55
Speaker 1: easily get to that like what like when we were
31:58
Speaker 1: coming back during this is the one I'm watching the
32:01
Speaker 1: they have a sonar screen on the tour boat, you know,
32:03
Speaker 1: big tour boat and fifty people on it. And I'm
32:05
Speaker 1: watching the sonar screen. Everybody else is taking pictures of
32:07
Speaker 1: the water and I just see this thing. I'm like, okay, well,
32:11
Speaker 1: there's like two hundred meters under us here right now.
32:15
Speaker 1: What in all Jesus is that thing right there? And
32:19
Speaker 1: I because there was this like we're passing over this
32:21
Speaker 1: this and the guy, the guy came down. I said, sorry,
32:24
Speaker 1: what is that? And so what he goes, yeah, and
32:30
Speaker 1: he's looking at it, go and going.
32:32
Speaker 2: I don't.
32:33
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, that's because there's a there's a
32:36
Speaker 1: like a ball. That's just how far down is that
32:39
Speaker 1: he goes? That's ninety meters because because there's about one
32:42
Speaker 1: hundred and forty hundreds right here, his that's ninety meters,
32:45
Speaker 1: So that's how big is that relative towards he goes
32:49
Speaker 1: us is in Van's side what he was talking. He
32:51
Speaker 1: goes the long wheelbase transit, So what the fuck is
32:56
Speaker 1: that he goes? I don't know, Tom, I see this
32:59
Speaker 1: ship all the time. I don't know. We can't get
33:02
Speaker 1: down after it because it cost one hundred thousand pounds
33:05
Speaker 1: just to go down and look at that moment, and
33:07
Speaker 1: it will be gone. I promise you, whatever that is
33:09
Speaker 1: will be gone in ten minutes time. We don't ever
33:12
Speaker 1: know what that is. So I'm looking gone because this
33:14
Speaker 1: guy was just hands up in the air gone. I
33:16
Speaker 1: don't know. But he went back to serving coffee at
33:19
Speaker 1: the back of the boat.
33:22
Speaker 2: I don't know what to take clies to sell.
33:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what to tell you, So I'm
33:25
Speaker 1: I'm we're all left with our hands kinna open the
33:27
Speaker 1: air gone. Yeah, there's something there's something in there. There
33:30
Speaker 1: is something in there.
33:31
Speaker 2: There's something in there. Okay, you just sold the ticket
33:35
Speaker 2: to Locknest, Tom. I gotta tell you because it is
33:37
Speaker 2: something that has intrigued me since I used to watch
33:40
Speaker 2: The Family Ness on BBC, Yes, when they're small, a
33:44
Speaker 2: little cartoon about a family of Locknest monsters and my
33:47
Speaker 2: two blows on his bagpipes and all this kind of cright.
33:49
Speaker 1: I tell you what it's I would advise it just
33:52
Speaker 1: for it's a lovely it's a lovely drive. It's a
33:55
Speaker 1: great drive.
33:56
Speaker 2: Else it gets the out of the house.
33:58
Speaker 1: It's a great drive. It's not ridiculously expense. If they
34:01
Speaker 1: haven't thrown the satellin like a lot of places would,
34:03
Speaker 1: if they you know what I mean, they haven't it.
34:06
Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff you can do reletively treat
34:08
Speaker 1: cheap up there. And it's a bit of an adventure,
34:10
Speaker 1: you know that kind of way. It's a thing that, look,
34:12
Speaker 1: I won't do it again, and I would like I
34:14
Speaker 1: would go to certain parts again. But I'm very very
34:18
Speaker 1: glad you come away with a story, not neus. It
34:22
Speaker 1: is a great story, and like we say, it's.
34:25
Speaker 2: Something that we have known and loved and had interesting
34:27
Speaker 2: since we were children, which wasn't yesterday. Tom. You know,
34:32
Speaker 2: as we've said several times on this podcast, me and
34:33
Speaker 2: Tom are children of the eighties. Were about forty odd
34:36
Speaker 2: years on this rock and we've seen a lot of
34:38
Speaker 2: things come and a lot of things go. And these
34:40
Speaker 2: are things that we talk about in the final segment
34:42
Speaker 2: of the show, which is called we Remember when when I.
34:47
Speaker 1: Was a young lad twenty or thirty or forty years ago.
34:52
Speaker 1: What a week, A week, a week and a bit
34:54
Speaker 1: gone by mother God, A.
34:57
Speaker 2: Couple of heavy hitters time, a couple of big scalps.
35:01
Speaker 1: We big Instagram accounts. Now after after falling off there now,
35:05
Speaker 1: well this is it.
35:06
Speaker 2: We are not an obituaries podcast here on the Tom
35:09
Speaker 2: and Jerry Show. But in the absence when Tom was
35:11
Speaker 2: away there for his week and we covered it with
35:13
Speaker 2: the diggerland us a special two of our two people
35:18
Speaker 2: that we would have known our whole lives passed away,
35:21
Speaker 2: Ozzy Osbourne and Hulk Hogan. Yeah, a bad a bad
35:26
Speaker 2: week for noted stars from the eighties whose initials are
35:31
Speaker 2: the same let or twice. Now we could, we could,
35:36
Speaker 2: we could fill podcasts talking about Ozzy Osbourne and indeed
35:39
Speaker 2: Hulk Hogan, but like if you look at Tom and
35:43
Speaker 2: mine her spheres of interest rock and roll, music, wrestling,
35:47
Speaker 2: you know, these are big names.
35:49
Speaker 1: There's a there's event diagram when the day when that
35:52
Speaker 1: of these things crossing over each other. When you ever,
35:54
Speaker 1: if you ever can wed your mind back to Motorhead
35:58
Speaker 1: singing in triple H to the ring, probably one of
36:01
Speaker 1: the coolest things. You know, let me with a fag
36:04
Speaker 1: in his mouth.
36:05
Speaker 2: Like like let me medically had to drink a bottle
36:09
Speaker 2: of whiskey a day. Yeah, and I'm going to dig
36:11
Speaker 2: that one out and and so be it. With Ozzie,
36:13
Speaker 2: he was always like this hell raiser and he was
36:15
Speaker 2: sort of like I think when we were coming through
36:17
Speaker 2: in the eighties, he was a bit of a punch
36:18
Speaker 2: line that he had.
36:20
Speaker 1: Hit the head off a bat and stuff the head.
36:22
Speaker 2: Of a bat. That was always the big joke. It
36:24
Speaker 2: was like, you know, yeah, keep your bets away. We
36:25
Speaker 2: always the old ones here, this kind of crack. And
36:27
Speaker 2: then Hull Cogan, of course was Hull Cogan that we've
36:30
Speaker 2: talked about Hogan before on this podcast, and he was
36:32
Speaker 2: like for all intensive purposes, you know, a tree, you know,
36:35
Speaker 2: a lion, bastard, I believe.
36:38
Speaker 1: I think the character of Hull Cogan is who I'd
36:40
Speaker 1: like to stay remembering, you know what I mean, the
36:42
Speaker 1: one like Terry Bully or whatever weird shit he was
36:45
Speaker 1: into and whatever racist carry on he was at.
36:48
Speaker 2: Leave in to it.
36:48
Speaker 1: But Hull Cogan to me was Hull Cogan, even though yeah,
36:52
Speaker 1: he did completely rob the character completely from somebody else,
36:55
Speaker 1: Like you know, there's no but two big hitters from
37:01
Speaker 1: your childhood Hogan more so for me than than Black Sabbath.
37:04
Speaker 1: I think something about Black Sabbages, they'd kind of passed
37:07
Speaker 1: me by.
37:07
Speaker 2: They had kind of passed yeah, coming on and later.
37:12
Speaker 1: To be fair, you could have told me os the
37:14
Speaker 1: Osborne was dead prior to The Osborne's TV show, do
37:18
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like when he was on
37:21
Speaker 1: that he wasn't far from the grave anyway.
37:24
Speaker 2: Did very well to get to where he got to.
37:26
Speaker 2: The Ozzy Osborne had a career resurgence in the last
37:29
Speaker 2: twenty years with the TV show The Osborne's, which was
37:32
Speaker 2: honestly like one of the first reality TV thing. Yes,
37:36
Speaker 2: like and and from The Osborne's there's a direct straight
37:38
Speaker 2: line to the Kardashians and to fucking all the real
37:42
Speaker 2: of Atlanta and all this kind of crack like, and indeed,
37:45
Speaker 2: to Hogan knows best, it's like, Okay, we've got a
37:47
Speaker 2: we've got a celebrity that's fallen off that are willing
37:51
Speaker 2: to let us go into their house and film, and
37:53
Speaker 2: we're going to make a quote unquote reality TV show.
37:55
Speaker 2: And that's all that's on TV these days. So so
37:57
Speaker 2: so we remember that time we stayed watch, We watched
38:00
Speaker 2: that happen unfold. Over our forty odd years on this rock,
38:04
Speaker 2: I want to do here now is like we thought,
38:07
Speaker 2: We've always said we're not an obituaries podcast, and I
38:10
Speaker 2: guess this is somewhat of a ghoulish way to end
38:15
Speaker 2: the show here tonight, how I kind of do like
38:17
Speaker 2: a pre obituary.
38:19
Speaker 1: How it came about was I was, I was preempting this.
38:22
Speaker 1: I brought some strong Scottish beer back with me and
38:26
Speaker 1: I found myself on Saturday night. The other two had
38:29
Speaker 1: gone to bed and I was still kind of a
38:31
Speaker 1: bit wired from all the driving and stuff. I set
38:33
Speaker 1: up getting slightly beautifully drunk by myself and I was
38:36
Speaker 1: texting Jerry and I'm watching do you know A tribute
38:38
Speaker 1: to Dolly and whatnot. And I see I'm seeing some stars.
38:41
Speaker 1: I'm kind of gone Jesus Christ, and I'm thinking about
38:45
Speaker 1: Ozzie and I'm thinking about Togan. I'm going Christ. I'll
38:50
Speaker 1: be I would be absolutely caught up when some people
38:52
Speaker 1: start to do, you know, leave this hard coil like that.
38:56
Speaker 1: I knew him, but you know what I mean, they
38:58
Speaker 1: held a place in me art and all the rest
39:00
Speaker 1: of it.
39:01
Speaker 2: This is it. I mean like sometimes there are there
39:04
Speaker 2: there are obituaries when you when you hear them when
39:05
Speaker 2: the star dies or some such and you're just like, oh,
39:07
Speaker 2: that's terribly sad. Or and in a lot of the cases,
39:10
Speaker 2: Tom's like I thought he was already dead.
39:12
Speaker 1: Yeah. And to certain people, I kind of get blown
39:15
Speaker 1: away by shoes Cross. They were really into them, you know,
39:18
Speaker 1: Like when Prince Prince died, it was like that's it.
39:21
Speaker 1: That man shouldn't be dead at that age, shouldn't be
39:23
Speaker 1: that all. Yeah, But to be fair, Prince never meant
39:25
Speaker 1: that much to me.
39:28
Speaker 2: Do you know. I'm sorry for you if you were
39:29
Speaker 2: a Prince fan. And I'm same with it with like,
39:32
Speaker 2: you know, when Whitney Houston passed away, Like see a
39:35
Speaker 2: lot of our a lot of our big hitter from
39:37
Speaker 2: the eighties, Like we've we've dipped our toe in this
39:40
Speaker 2: water here already because Prince has died, Whitney Houston has died,
39:44
Speaker 2: George Michael has died, Michael Jackson, Michael fucking Jackson is dead.
39:49
Speaker 2: These were huge stars for us in the eighties and
39:52
Speaker 2: early nineties, Kirkabaine and so on and so forth. But
39:55
Speaker 2: you know, there are still a couple of people that
39:58
Speaker 2: when they go, that's really gonna hit you and I hard.
40:01
Speaker 2: Now you've already kind of mentioned a man there, mister
40:04
Speaker 2: Worlie Nelson.
40:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that and that and tied in. I mean,
40:08
Speaker 1: it was actually first I would watching it. And I mean,
40:11
Speaker 1: if anybody wants to go back, if you're new to
40:14
Speaker 1: the Tom and Jerry Show, there's one to go back
40:15
Speaker 1: and listen to the beatification of Dolly Parton, Dolly and herself.
40:19
Speaker 1: I'm kind of going Jesus Christ, I might just singing
40:22
Speaker 1: many colors. I'm like, when Dolly guy dies, I'm gonna
40:25
Speaker 1: be seriously cut up for a day or two. That's
40:28
Speaker 1: gonna be a rough couple of days. And and but
40:30
Speaker 1: then Willie's up and will He's just barely hanging in there,
40:32
Speaker 1: like I mean, now WILLI for to give him his
40:35
Speaker 1: jew Willy has put that body through the wringer like
40:39
Speaker 1: he he that he looked. He resembles his guitar. That
40:42
Speaker 1: guitar is the most worn out, beating up pieces like
40:45
Speaker 1: it will go up in the greatest Hall of Fame
40:47
Speaker 1: of all time, that guitar. But you're looking, going maybe
40:50
Speaker 1: weed is a good thing because that man is still
40:52
Speaker 1: hanging in there when he's up there and he's singing.
40:55
Speaker 1: But it's like Jesus Christ, there's not I'm gonna be
40:59
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real sitting a text. Jerry was all
41:01
Speaker 1: over the night and I'm gone, Jesus, Jerry, we better
41:03
Speaker 1: talk about William Nelson before he we had got to
41:06
Speaker 1: do a fucking obituary on him.
41:08
Speaker 2: We we got to say like and and and you know,
41:13
Speaker 2: it's gonna be someone like that that's gonna get you
41:15
Speaker 2: tom like Dolly respect, like you know, we we know
41:18
Speaker 2: her and we love her and like you know, we
41:20
Speaker 2: we've been very sort of precious about her and all
41:25
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. You can keep an eye on
41:27
Speaker 2: her and make sure like everything's all right. Willie Nelson's
41:29
Speaker 2: going to come in out of fucking no horn. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
41:32
Speaker 2: because that's gonna just come in out of absolut fucking
41:35
Speaker 2: liutally nor Yes, because Dolly would feature every so often.
41:38
Speaker 1: You know, there'll be there'll be you know her, her,
41:41
Speaker 1: she'd give into your zeitgeist every so often, whether it's
41:43
Speaker 1: on your timeline or whatever, and you're like, ah, yeah,
41:45
Speaker 1: there's good stuff, great gonna. But William Gonna, he'll come
41:49
Speaker 1: in wistfully on the wind and his obituary and be like, ah.
41:54
Speaker 2: Here's what, here's the thing toime as well. All of
41:56
Speaker 2: our sort of heroes from the eighties and whatnot are
41:59
Speaker 2: coming to in age that you know, they start winding down.
42:05
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you, like, I've been a wrestling fan
42:08
Speaker 2: for forty years, and there's no surprises now at this stage,
42:14
Speaker 2: because those guys die at the age of fifty, Like
42:16
Speaker 2: Hogan died, he was like seventy two, and that's considered old.
42:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the amount of gear they did back in
42:21
Speaker 1: the day, Like I mean in the mount they all
42:24
Speaker 1: have new hearts, right, they all have because of what
42:27
Speaker 1: the amount of of steroids they took.
42:29
Speaker 2: And wrestling deaths come so often and there's such a
42:32
Speaker 2: varied You could be seventy years of age and your
42:34
Speaker 2: steroid heart finally blows up, or you could be forty
42:37
Speaker 2: five years of age and your pill addiction catches up
42:40
Speaker 2: to you. Like you have no idea where those things
42:43
Speaker 2: are coming. So the likes of your rick Flairs and
42:45
Speaker 2: your Rickie steamboats and all that kind of thing, I'm
42:47
Speaker 2: keeping an eye out for them. But you know, there's
42:51
Speaker 2: morbid than all as it sounds as like wrestl Being
42:53
Speaker 2: a wrestling fan just trains you to know that your
42:55
Speaker 2: heroes are going to die at any given.
42:56
Speaker 1: I mean Flair, Howe in Fox's name, he's still on.
43:00
Speaker 1: You know when you see Randy Savage and the Ultimate
43:02
Speaker 1: Warrior Okay, yes, the aultomn Warrior.
43:04
Speaker 2: Absolutely the Ultimate Warrior had a heart attack on screen
43:09
Speaker 2: and died hours later, and he just walked to the
43:11
Speaker 2: bag on screen. You the last time he showed up
43:16
Speaker 2: on Monday Night Raw to give like a speech to
43:19
Speaker 2: the crowd, and he died the next day getting his
43:22
Speaker 2: car from the from the car park. And when he's
43:24
Speaker 2: when you watch it back, there's a man who can't breathe.
43:27
Speaker 2: The purple in the face and everyone was like, Oh,
43:29
Speaker 2: he's just emotional for being back out in front of
43:31
Speaker 2: the crowd, and I was like, that man can't walk.
43:33
Speaker 2: He's clearly having a cardiac incident right now as we speak, Tom,
43:39
Speaker 2: I hate to say, I hate to invoke the Holy Trinity,
43:42
Speaker 2: but our holy trinity of action movie stars from the eighties.
43:48
Speaker 2: We're talking about Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, and our dear
43:53
Speaker 2: Bruce Willis, who is the youngest of the three by
43:57
Speaker 2: a good bit perhaps, but perhaps in the worst health
43:59
Speaker 2: of them all. He's he's having his battles now. God
44:04
Speaker 2: love and Bruce and Arnold is seventy nine, Big Arld
44:08
Speaker 2: seventy eight and Sylvester Sloane is seventy nine, and both
44:11
Speaker 2: of them are I think heart number three or four
44:13
Speaker 2: at this stage all for sure, like Sly has the
44:15
Speaker 2: heart of a fucking tyrannod On or something like he
44:18
Speaker 2: has soul. That's the that's in the post. And I
44:21
Speaker 2: think those three because they were such a movement, Yeah
44:26
Speaker 2: it is, I know, you know, you never know because
44:28
Speaker 2: Kurk Douglass livedally was one hundred and Michael Douglas is
44:30
Speaker 2: going to do similar. So maybe these lads have another
44:32
Speaker 2: twenty years in them, and I hope they do.
44:34
Speaker 1: They have the best of doctors, you know what I mean,
44:36
Speaker 1: if there, if they're trying, like apparently Ernie's in great nicknaw,
44:39
Speaker 1: because he's he's pretty much gone organic vegan apparently, Like so.
44:43
Speaker 2: He's organic vegan diet and cigars all day.
44:46
Speaker 1: Sure look at it if they're good quality cigars, you know,
44:49
Speaker 1: and he doesn't practically calcium in them.
44:51
Speaker 2: If he doesn't, inhale, who who else is? Who else
44:55
Speaker 2: is going to hit you? Hurt them?
44:56
Speaker 1: I think Clint Clint East is going to hit me hard.
44:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, now what respect is in his nineties do you know? Yeah,
45:06
Speaker 2: brave age.
45:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently still hits the gym every day, like he's
45:11
Speaker 1: like he's old man, lasted a good while too, but
45:15
Speaker 1: he's apparently. You know, it's it's always a surprise when
45:18
Speaker 1: you're still in your head you have him and you know,
45:21
Speaker 1: Hacksaw rage or whatever, and you're just the man, and
45:23
Speaker 1: then he shows up on screen, You're like Jesus Christ.
45:26
Speaker 1: He looks like you know, the end of the Raiders,
45:29
Speaker 1: the Lost Arc, like of course he does. Guys, he's
45:31
Speaker 1: an outful like he's a great great grandfather has ninety
45:35
Speaker 1: children himself, Like he.
45:37
Speaker 2: Was an old man when we were watching him in
45:38
Speaker 2: the eighties.
45:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like, but it still shocks me when I
45:42
Speaker 1: see him and I'm like, he's one of the ones
45:45
Speaker 1: like where you go, No, I mean, there's a lovable rogue.
45:48
Speaker 1: So i'll you know, I'll pour, you know, I sip
45:52
Speaker 1: on the on the pavement for the like the you know,
45:54
Speaker 1: Dick Van Dyke, like, but I don't know if that
45:55
Speaker 1: guy's ever gonna die.
45:56
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's ever gonna die. And like,
45:58
Speaker 2: you know, when the Dick Van dies and we don't
46:00
Speaker 2: wish it on anybody, but when he passes away, people
46:02
Speaker 2: are like, you know, good age, Dick. You know.
46:05
Speaker 1: That's the thing. If a fellow hit, it's it's far
46:08
Speaker 1: less saturn. That's why I would like, well, Willy, I'll
46:10
Speaker 1: be like okay. But at the same time, Willy's ninety yard, now,
46:14
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, so if and
46:16
Speaker 1: when he does go, it'll be yeah, I think if
46:21
Speaker 1: I think, uh, one individual I was trying to think
46:25
Speaker 1: from the eighties that I was like, justought it was
46:27
Speaker 1: the coolest fucking cat. And if he died at a
46:30
Speaker 1: young age. I'd be absolutely caught up. I think fucking
46:33
Speaker 1: half if the half died, because he's just a funny bat.
46:36
Speaker 1: He really he can see himself from the outside in
46:40
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Wearing leather jackets, and.
46:42
Speaker 2: He's and was such an icon for us coming up.
46:45
Speaker 2: And I'll leave you with my final three here, Tom,
46:48
Speaker 2: which wasn't the half now, but I did regard him
46:50
Speaker 2: because it was all that time, because you can only
46:52
Speaker 2: you can only have you know, you can have your favorite,
46:54
Speaker 2: and then you have Down the Way and a night Rider.
46:56
Speaker 2: It was never my favorite, and the Huff and I
47:00
Speaker 2: like Bay watching all that kind of thing, but it
47:02
Speaker 2: wasn't my favorite. And my favorite was in the eighties,
47:05
Speaker 2: the eighteen, which we have three remaining members of the
47:09
Speaker 2: A team. We have Dirk Benedict, and we have Dwight
47:13
Speaker 2: Schultz and we have mister T. Mister T the youngest
47:16
Speaker 2: of them all at seventy three. The other the other
47:18
Speaker 2: two lads, I think they're eighty apiece. And they've been
47:23
Speaker 2: real quiet, Tom. I hope they're relaxing and enjoying retirement
47:27
Speaker 2: and having a rare old time. But there's there's gonna
47:30
Speaker 2: be a wee bit of megales when they.
47:32
Speaker 1: Go I hear you because and it's almost like when
47:34
Speaker 1: they're not in your timeline or whatever, they're not, you know,
47:36
Speaker 1: and they it comes out of the blue. It is
47:38
Speaker 1: a shot out of the blue, isn't it?
47:40
Speaker 2: You know when you see their name online that they
47:43
Speaker 2: didn't you know, just land a new role in the
47:46
Speaker 2: new Marvel movie or something like that.
47:47
Speaker 1: To be fair, the amount of these that we like,
47:50
Speaker 1: we pass passed by because we just text each other
47:53
Speaker 1: back and forth when somebody dies. So it for us
47:56
Speaker 1: to do this episode at all because we, as Jerry said,
47:59
Speaker 1: we're not in a we couldn't.
48:01
Speaker 2: And this is like a ghoulish pre habituary sort of.
48:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, pre obituary. I think I I to stay with
48:08
Speaker 1: from the American side of things, and then he come
48:09
Speaker 1: to this side of the band. I was thinking, and
48:11
Speaker 1: it's not even in a megastar thing, but I I
48:14
Speaker 1: think of Irish icons. You know, we take the pace
48:18
Speaker 1: out of our own Irish icons of course, but I
48:21
Speaker 1: genuinely think when Michael D goes, yeah, Michael D is
48:26
Speaker 1: gonna Michael that's going to shut the country down. Like
48:29
Speaker 1: I remember when Jack Charlton passed away like that was
48:32
Speaker 1: probably one of the of the better examples of someone
48:36
Speaker 1: that we knew and had a lot of time and
48:38
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for. And I'm not a sportsman,
48:41
Speaker 1: so like for me to be like, well that's that,
48:43
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, but he means so much, I think
48:49
Speaker 1: to so many. There's no argument. There's no argument that
48:53
Speaker 1: he's a class act. Like there's nobody. Don't care what
48:56
Speaker 1: side of offense you are on or whatever your your
48:59
Speaker 1: your your prettical outcut outlook is, you can't ever not
49:03
Speaker 1: look at that guy.
49:04
Speaker 2: Go class act, class act, class act. Well, come here
49:08
Speaker 2: listening next week where we give the second half of
49:10
Speaker 2: this bit where we can talk about all the people
49:12
Speaker 2: that we couldn't give a fuck whether they live or day.
49:16
Speaker 2: It's a way longer episode that's special, but there you
49:22
Speaker 2: go all the names of some people that we remember
49:25
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49:28
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49:30
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Speaker 1: Brilliant, brilliant that David Brown.
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Speaker 2: Well, yes, indeed, and then Pierce adds in that to
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Speaker 2: attend digger Land USA, you don't need a height requirement,
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Speaker 2: you need a CCS card. Keep your comments coming, folks.
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Speaker 2: You know, you know we we we love to hear it.
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Speaker 2: We love to hear it. Other than that, Tom, there
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Speaker 2: you go. I am going to bid you farewell.
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Speaker 1: I'm off. There's month folks of the Tom of our show.
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Speaker 1: There's a monster drawing competition on going on up in
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Speaker 1: the sitting room. So I'm heading up to that.
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Speaker 2: Okay, everybody, see you next week. Good luck, clut