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Our Lady Of Zeitoun · HOLOSKY PODCAST

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to the Hollis guy podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here before the long and missile, even further, submit me into doing this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: guys, sigh, great shows, but you got to read your Bible, your fears would grow, or by faith, be taken away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It breaks my heart hearing how surprised by what's going on, how such smart bright guys you are, or so fearfully, and also, but also how fearfully and surprised you are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lack of gravity for a while would be fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My imagination goes wild, but dudes, you got to get to
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, first off bears honey.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh hard emoji too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah hard emoji.
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[SPEAKER_02]: First off, thanks for the kind words, but don't stress don't stress.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't stress models.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We each got our own path in life, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, don't stress.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're the types you have to let us walk our path.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll be fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll end up where we're meant to end up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I firmly believe that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And funny that this one popped up today, because I'm doing an episode on a Marion Apparition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Steve, Steve, found Mary.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't personally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you did well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I found some information about her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you found it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, technically, you're selling yourself short.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to quit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what, I've turned over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Told you, positivity, Steve, we got to be positive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I turned over New Leaf.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Another way you can start turning over new leaf is borderline to the plagiarism.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Play them that you found in the merry way, you know, you know what I mean.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a miracle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's what it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is a miracle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, just like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Holocaust, we are back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are back and little, little precursor here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was stumbling around the old bookstore and I found this book on miracles, which is a source to my own photo today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Miracles, a parascientific inquiry into the wondrous phenomena by D. Scott Rogo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Got a lot of interesting crazy stuff in there that sent me on this path that led to this episode today, particularly the Marion apparitions, which are manifestations of the Virgin Mary.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've heard about Fatima, we've heard about lords, but this one in particular is crazy because
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[SPEAKER_02]: which is a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's rad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy too that these types of encounters go under the radar for so many people too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Me included, you know, I don't think I've heard of this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At least not on the top of my head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I may have heard it through the grapevine just whisking by one day, but never in the detail that you're gonna bring forth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, it doesn't ever make its rounds through the paranormal channels on social media or any place like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's, it's amazing how much of the miracle side of the paranormal just stays.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whoo.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right on the floor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there are certain aspects of this particular incident, well, series of incidents that
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[SPEAKER_02]: which is interesting, but we're going to get into it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is our lady of Zaytune.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Today's case takes us to Egypt, spring of 1968, and the largest Marion apparition is about to occur.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The witnesses aren't just a few devout believers, but a crowd sometimes over 250,000 people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Christians, Muslims, atheists, scientists, military personnel, political leaders, even the president of the Republic of Egypt, all disinced to see this apparition of what they believe
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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't last a few seconds.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't last a few minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't last a few days.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It makes its appearance sometimes multiple times weekly for over three years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I was gonna ask, I almost cut you off an ass.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, how do these people plan to see this apparition?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's the answer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's pretty there wasn't like clockwork, but she was if you waited long enough she'd show up It may not want to go to oh, yeah to see something like which like if it was relatively local to us I would be like to see we gotta go try to see this which also makes me Think I know I'm kind of going on a tangent here, but These apparitions have kind of fallen off since we've gotten close like more technologically advanced
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[SPEAKER_02]: they've kind of really withered away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I was thinking that too, because we talked off air for just a smidge.
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[SPEAKER_00]: About, you talked about that, them cast in that coin, and the hail that came down, mirrored the coin and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you said that, instantly in my head, I thought to myself, we don't do that type of stuff anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there aren't these moments of like, praise, these moments of just like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, just good for, you know, good will that you're punching out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like in a weird way, it's almost like a ritual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like, like you said with technology and time, a lot of this old way of thinking and believing has left the building, so to speak.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that, I think that affects our, the way we think it affects our thought processes
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[SPEAKER_02]: energy, we put into these things, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like when they, we is talking about this miraculous event, which I might do an episode on, but I'm just going to touch on it briefly, there was, I think it may have been a sighting of
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[SPEAKER_02]: based on a statue at a local church there, they made a medallion, not a coin, a medallion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not long after they pressed the medallion, this huge hailstorm came through.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And as people, the hailstorm was weird, it was like flat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People were picking up the hailstones, and on the hailstones were the image of the Virgin Mary that was cast on the medallion recently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for what I would give to have one of those medallions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me sick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, as soon as you said, you said, coin first, but you said medallion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I run off clean enough, not very long ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I need a dope medallion to wear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you say a medallion on my god, that would be sick to have one of those.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I can find enough meat on it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll probably do an episode.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cause I'm really, I'm really dug in the best shit, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause like I said, we don't, we know we don't cover it very often.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just seems like the gray.
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[SPEAKER_00]: not the fucking throw shade with the amount of religious paranormal podcasts out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel like many of them even ride the train of miracle very often.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you would think that would be a big avenue to push into to get some of these cases a little more well known and you know, get more traction for them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do think they're important.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and the the gamut that miracles run is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It goes everything from like levitation to buy location to to fire immunity and shit like it's it's cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's dude that's he got a you got to admit that's paranormal one on one right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All that crazy shit is paranormal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't give a fuck who you are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even religion itself is borderline paranormal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is the paranormal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are we talking about?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's paranormal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is 100% is it gets so weird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So before I get into it, we're going to get into a little history, kind of go back in time a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let you know what's going on with Egypt in 1968.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let you also know about some lore that existed
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anywho, it's April 2nd, 1968.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Egypt is a battered nation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Less than a year ago is handled a brutal defeat in the six-day war against Israel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The nation's hurt, morale is crushed, and poverty's running rampant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's also religious tension between the Muslim majority and the conflict Christian minority.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so bad like you could cut it with a knife, like you know it's getting ready to blow over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In, we're taking, this is all taking place in the predominately Muslim town of Zaitu and in the northern outskirts of Cairo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There is legend that this particular place was a place that Mary and Joseph, the parents of Jesus, hid after fleeing their homeland when Herod, the Tetriarch of Judea ordered all first-born Jewish children killed after learning that the Messiah's birth had been foretold.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Catholic tradition of Zaitun is still evident today, as it still has a predominantly,
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[SPEAKER_02]: coptic catholic population there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's got lower behind the area.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The coptic church is a set closely allied to the Roman Catholic church.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It broke away from Orthodox Catholicism in 1054 AD and a strongly represented in several near Eastern countries despite a number of affinities the coptic church recognizes its own Pope who has
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's also, uh, got its own son out of bitch bishops, the Patriarch of the Coptic Catholic Church at the time of the XI-Tune manifestations was Pope Krillios VI, who had rose to leadership in 1959, after years of internal strife had almost devastated the second.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to fast-forward back to 1968.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're on Tumen by Street.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a busy road line with garages and shops and little restaurants and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just kind of your basic, you know, busy road across from one of these garages is the church of St. Mary of Zytun, a beautiful, coptic Catholic church adorned with large domes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One particular garage that's across from it is the garage for public transport authorities.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's two mechanics working late into the night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's about 830.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These two mechanics on duty were Ferruc Muhammad Atwa and Abdel Aziz Ali, both men or Muslim, which is, I don't know a lot about Muslim religion, obviously, but I do know how
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[SPEAKER_02]: high of a regard the Catholics hold Mary.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know she's important in the Muslim religion, but I don't know how they kind of coincide.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the men are working.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They go outside to take a birth of fresh air.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not praying.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not looking for a miracle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just trying to finish up and close up shop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As for Luke's steps outside, he looks toward the church.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and the church has a big, beautiful, central dome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And on this dome, he sees a woman, and she's dressed all in white, and she's kneeling toward one of the big stone crosses on the dome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, for Rook's first thought, isn't like, oh my God, I'm seeing the Virgin Mary.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His first thought is, we got a jumper.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's thinking that they're seeing a none from the church getting ready to take her own life and throw herself from the dome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he immediately starts yelling, you know, lady, be careful, wait, wait, wait.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he has Abdel go and get the police.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go get emergency services.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, this is gonna end badly, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So as he's yelling, more and more people
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[SPEAKER_02]: And another one ran to get the church's pastor and another one called emergency service squads so they're trying to get a bunch of people together.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As the larger crowd, gathers are all yelling for this woman not to jump, not to jump.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The police notice, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on
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[SPEAKER_02]: saying obviously if she does jump, they don't want a bunch of people around seeing that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As they're sitting there, the figure stands up and begins to walk the curve of the dome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They said that she moved with an unnatural fluidity, almost as if she was floating.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At this point, people begin to realize that they're looking not at a person made of flesh and
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[SPEAKER_02]: They noticed that there is no shadow coming, like she's casting no shadow, the light that's produced is emitting from her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's producing her own light.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So as they're sitting there looking, somebody else from the crowd, Santana, Maryam, Arlady Mary, and this really starts to get people to gather.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the police are now trying to disperse the crowd that is there witnessing a miracle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're trying to convince everybody, hey, it's just a reflection, go on with your business.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The whole time they're standing there, in night watching this lighted figure walk of the dome of the church.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, those moments are also moments to agitate the fuck out of me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get it from like a police standpoint and whatever, but let these people
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[SPEAKER_00]: experience life together, yeah, you know, let people live in the moment from time to time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you are really convinced that it is a jumper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: At the same time, that's the other part of our society that I think is failed as we all like because you know that would happen in right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If that were to happen somewhere in the world, the same shit would happen and they'd be like, get, get out of here, you know, leave.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's too many people crowded together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rub, rub, rub, rub, no, let people come together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let people witness this, this miracle for lack of better words together and let that story spread like wildfire because
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, something just something as simple as that is seeing that image that they were able to witness.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do feel like could inspire a lot of people and kind of renew faith and renew the the outlook on life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, which is something that never really never happens anymore, you know, it's weird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the figure remained in sight for several minutes before disappearing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or, or I'm out here.
23:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So authorities would interview for Luke the next day and he would tell them quote, I saw clearly that it was the Virgin Mary.
23:54
[SPEAKER_02]: He had had an injury to one of his fingers that had gotten infected and gotten gang green.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was supposed to get it operated on the following day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: but he noted my finger quote quote my finger which was to be operated on for gang green was instantly healed the moment I pointed at her for that's awesome would be the first miracle that is fucking awesome that gives me goosebumps what I said like and what it like what are the like the I don't know I'm just trying to it's hard for me are
24:33
[SPEAKER_00]: the happens stance of him pointing not even like not even really realizing, but he's pointing and she or whatever it is fixes his finger and is like your fucking healed.
24:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Hell yeah dude and he doesn't and it's so subtle that he doesn't even realize at the time.
24:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, wasn't till the next day.
24:56
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
24:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's crazy.
24:58
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because I've never had no green, but you would think that I think it'd be hurting.
25:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably stinkin' like motherfucker too.
25:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
25:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
25:10
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, he's a fucking asshole.
25:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Airsole spray that motherfucker down.
25:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Eventually, after several minutes, again, the apparition disappears, but I noted, it didn't disappear like a light switch that flicked off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It just dissipated.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They said like vapor dispersing into the air.
25:31
[SPEAKER_02]: No one knew quite what to make of the phenomena, but during the next several days, rumors began to spread throughout Cairo that the figure was the Blessed Virgin Mary herself.
25:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Small crowds of Zaitun residents began to form in the streets surrounding the church, hoping that the figure would appear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And reappear she would.
25:49
[SPEAKER_02]: The next time on April 9th, the week after her initial appearance, she was seen in a radiant blue light walking along the dome.
25:58
[SPEAKER_02]: After the second sighting, she began to materialize much more frequently.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes she was seen multiple times a week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes as little as 10 minutes at a time, other times for as long as eight consecutive hours.
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[SPEAKER_02]: From sundown to sum up, she would walk the dome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Which is, it's long goes.
26:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It's also weird, very weird and concerning.
26:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Did she, did it happen all hours of the day or just at night time?
26:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm barely sure.
26:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm fairly sure it was a night.
26:30
[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird that it's at night.
26:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Because one could argue, not saying that this is the reality.
26:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe that it is the only based off of the situation.
26:43
[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, blue beam, the hologram, and all that fucking jazz.
26:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Very strange.
26:50
[SPEAKER_00]: But that creates a problem.
26:54
[SPEAKER_00]: in conjunction with miracle starting to take place like the guy's finger being healed, right?
27:00
[SPEAKER_00]: So that comes down to, it's very interesting.
27:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I love to run on this way.
27:07
[SPEAKER_00]: It's very interesting to run down that avenue because it leads you into separate directions.
27:14
[SPEAKER_00]: One, it's real miracle, you know, the phenomenon, whatever it is, whether it be it religious
27:24
[SPEAKER_00]: is real and do was healed, which no matter what, no matter if you look at that through the lens of religion or alien or whatever the fuck you, whatever label you want to put on that, it's still a positive miracle.
27:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It's still a great thing.
27:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Or could it be the hologram situation that kind of like we discussed slightly earlier, the amount of people that are now consciously,
27:53
[SPEAKER_00]: focusing on the Mary and all of the things that come along with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Club consciously on that level did a collective consciousness happen and was somehow able to heal this man and create not even really create that image but there was like
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[SPEAKER_00]: a by-product of the created image.
28:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I was watching a YouTube video on it.
28:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember who did it.
28:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was maybe in called the Christian way.
28:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember.
28:25
[SPEAKER_02]: But they said, what did they say?
28:29
[SPEAKER_02]: An apparition without miracles is just a light show.
28:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, damn.
28:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it is, but it is, but it is.
28:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't say, I won't rob it of that,
28:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Like especially in today's world with the technology that we have, it is getting to that point where that is a valid statement.
28:52
[SPEAKER_02]: The, that got my brain turn, I know we're just, we're just firing off here.
28:57
[SPEAKER_02]: That got my brain turning about blue beam when you said blue beam on our, here we go.
29:02
[SPEAKER_02]: What if, what if what we, because people have people just started but talking about blue beam within what the last 15 years?
29:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.
29:10
[SPEAKER_02]: What if blue beam started in 47?
29:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Good of.
29:13
[SPEAKER_02]: When Roswell happened, what if that, what if that was the kick off?
29:18
[SPEAKER_02]: What if that was all fake?
29:20
[SPEAKER_02]: That was to get the flying saucer little green men role thing role and very well good of and then you have stuff like this, which is all, I don't know, it's weird.
29:33
[SPEAKER_00]: It is weird.
29:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I wouldn't argue the possibility of.
29:39
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there are some deaf and odd oddities, you know, and holes in that theory, because they live some significant, like there were UFOs over the goddamn White House, not long after that, like that's a, that's a ballsy move.
29:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
29:54
[SPEAKER_02]: But it also, if it were, you know, set up by the government that what better way to kick off UFO fear than have these things, you know, show up over the White House.
30:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, where was that?
30:16
[SPEAKER_02]: As eight consecutive hours from Sundown to Sundown, the following week, the sighting graced basically every Egyptian newspaper, not religious papers, every newspaper, even the major national daily papers controlled by secular government had headlines reading, the Virgin Mary appears inside, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Large crowds waited nightly outside the church on April 13th of photographer from Cairo was able to photograph the figure.
30:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to mess his name up and I apologize.
30:48
[SPEAKER_02]: We're just going to call Mr. Mata.
30:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Mata had heard about the apparition through the media and visited the church on the night of April 12th.
30:56
[SPEAKER_02]: The Virgin did not appear until 355 a.m. and though she remained in view for only 10 minutes, Mata was able to take several pictures of her from a street
31:06
[SPEAKER_02]: resulting pictures were not a very high quality, but they were the first that would be or that would eventually be many spectacular photographs of the apparition.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you can find these.
31:17
[SPEAKER_02]: You look up our ladies tune and they got some crazy photos of her up there on the dome.
31:23
[SPEAKER_02]: All of this attention, obviously, or all of this, obviously drew the attention of local government
31:32
[SPEAKER_02]: As the apparition was presenting itself to a crowd of over 10,000 onlookers, local police officers were led into the church to go investigate, logically they were expecting to find evidence of a hoax.
31:44
[SPEAKER_02]: They found nothing out of the ordinary, no one was found inside the church, no one was on the roof.
31:50
[SPEAKER_02]: There was no one in there that could have been manipulating or creating the images on the dome.
31:54
[SPEAKER_02]: The roof was empty.
31:56
[SPEAKER_02]: They expanded the search to surrounding buildings in the neighborhood, looking for any sort of light projector that could possibly be creating the image on the dome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They found nothing, but the figure still stood.
32:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Just watching on as they scrambled about trying to find an explanation to the image.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This almost forced the hand of the authorities to take drastic measures and an attempt to expose the manifestation as a hoax, they cut the power to the entire district of Zaytun, a 15 mile square radius had its power cut.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Streetlights are black, homes go dark.
32:34
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, if it were a projection, they would have cut off.
32:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It would have were a reflection, cut off the light source, the reflection goes.
32:42
[SPEAKER_02]: As I tune falls into darkness, except for the apparition, still standing on the dome, moving back and forth.
32:49
[SPEAKER_02]: She's engulfed in complete darkness, but she signs even more brighter now, so much so that she's illuminating the crowd of thousands on the streets below her.
32:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Believers, skeptics, government officials all bathe in this light coming from this being.
33:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I also liked like the idea too that, like there's that homelessness to it where all the lights go out.
33:20
[SPEAKER_00]: So she's like, all right, I will now shine brighter to be the light in the night for everyone.
33:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's that's super rad to me.
33:28
[SPEAKER_00]: I did wonder though.
33:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I do wonder.
33:32
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a way off topic really, but in regards to these types of situations, especially when it starts to make its rounds of miracles taking place, how do you think those situations affect the entity that is manifesting itself and has the ability to
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[SPEAKER_00]: induct miracles or people because with the second that gets out that miracles are happening, it will be a feeding frenzy for people.
34:13
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
34:13
[SPEAKER_00]: There will be no it's don't get me wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There will be people there in desperate need of thing, but but there also be people who are like, almost being greedy about it, you know what I mean?
34:24
[SPEAKER_00]: They're not, you know, and that's hard for me to explain, but thank you what you understand what I'm saying,
34:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And then there will be people who are there to genuinely.
34:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, because I truly do think that if you and me were able to see something like this, I think that it would touch me in a way that would probably make me cry.
34:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I don't think that my brain would register it any other way than this is something
34:58
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, I don't know, I just would see it as an overwhelming positive thing, and I really do think that it would change my outlook on life.
35:08
[SPEAKER_00]: But you know that there are people there that would, that would look at that situation more of profit or greed or whatever word you want to put there.
35:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wonder what that, that type of consciousness blasted out there does to that entity in those moments.
35:30
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean or like like if it makes it I feel like I do I don't know if it is a divine being or if it if it's any kind of advanced being you would think they would be able to tune in to consciousness and intent.
35:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, you know, to where it could to where it could essentially.
35:58
[SPEAKER_00]: as opposed to I just I just wonder if like those those leaching thoughts if they affect it in any way.
36:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you like as a normal human being, if one of us was up there or anyone was up there and had the ability to heal, but you also could feel these these blood suckers so to speak.
36:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I think after a time it would leave a
36:26
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
36:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, where you're just like, I'm done with these people because all they're doing is just they just want miracles.
36:34
[SPEAKER_00]: It's all they fucking want.
36:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
36:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, and then what you want your your your fucking bunion on your foot fixed rad, you know.
36:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because that there would be real shit.
36:48
[SPEAKER_00]: There would be people with these fucking, oh yeah, lame ass things, you know, because in your in your head you envision like,
36:54
[SPEAKER_00]: a mother carrying her daughter who's got fucking stage four cancer, and it's just, and not even like wanting it, they're just hopeful that by the grace of this being, it carries your child.
37:06
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
37:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's genuine.
37:08
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the other thing they're going to be people, they're like, oh, I'm fucking, I got to screw in my knee, you need to fucking fix it.
37:16
[SPEAKER_00]: you know what I mean.
37:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I would hope that it be like immune to it, you know.
37:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Me too, but I just it's one of those overwhelming thoughts where I wonder if it does if it acts like us where it has this bad taste where it's like, all right, these people are only here for me to perform, perform, perform, they're not here to witness.
37:36
[SPEAKER_02]: It would get, you know, what is important.
37:38
[SPEAKER_02]: You like that, but it would it would almost get to the point where it would be like an attraction.
37:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you would have people trying to sell tickets to it and everything else, you know, there's on the street, you know, by your set of keys to heaven, there you go.
37:52
[SPEAKER_00]: That right there.
37:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
37:53
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm talking about.
37:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Does that does that demotivate?
37:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Or is that another reason why these things don't happen anymore?
38:03
[SPEAKER_00]: could be.
38:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we don't just collectively just exist in that moment.
38:06
[SPEAKER_00]: We have to, like you said, that's a great point.
38:09
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you're right.
38:10
[SPEAKER_00]: If it happened consistently, there would be vinderstands, there would be this fucking underbelly of disgust, presented itself.
38:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a fucking, that's a fucking solid one right there.
38:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
38:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, where were they at?
38:28
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, they cut, they cut the power.
38:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So the figure appeared dozens of times during April and May.
38:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Most witnesses who saw it agreed that it glowed with a soft but intense radiance.
38:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Mata, quote, say in the first time I saw the apparition, the light cloud of Mary was so bright that it blinded my eyes.
38:46
[SPEAKER_02]: On May 5th, the figure stayed in full view for several hours before disappearing.
38:52
[SPEAKER_02]: The apparition revealed itself in a variety of ways, before the actual appearance flashes of light would often be seen darting about the top of the church.
39:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Occasionally, the central dome would become eerily luminescent as well.
39:06
[SPEAKER_02]: At other times, quote, meteoric lights would rush down toward the church from the heavens, as though it was sent from the heavens themselves.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The figure always appeared in a brilliant flash of light.
39:18
[SPEAKER_02]: The apparition would first appear somewhat amorphous, but would eventually take the form of a more defined human shape.
39:26
[SPEAKER_02]: when initially be seen either in the air above or before the central dome pacing back and forth on the rooftop.
39:34
[SPEAKER_02]: The figure would usually acknowledge the crowd by bowing to them or raising a hand and waving toward them.
39:41
[SPEAKER_02]: On rare occasion it would appear as a Madonna with child appearing to be carrying baby Jesus.
39:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Other times she would be seen holding an olive branch, almost like a message
39:55
[SPEAKER_02]: things are going to get better.
39:57
[SPEAKER_02]: The apparition never made a sound.
40:00
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a manifestations were not predictable.
40:02
[SPEAKER_02]: They could, there weren't, there wasn't a time schedule.
40:05
[SPEAKER_02]: It might appear only once on a particular evening or else it would disappear in a reappear repeatedly throughout the span of the night.
40:12
[SPEAKER_02]: While usually seen at the top of the church, there were a few occasions she would materialize in the courtyard beside the building.
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[SPEAKER_02]: testimony remain consistent between witnesses that could not have corroborated with one another.
40:27
[SPEAKER_02]: The figure always appeared as life-sizer slightly larger.
40:31
[SPEAKER_02]: The figure was most often white in color, but sometime appeared to be blueish white.
40:36
[SPEAKER_02]: It almost always seemed to be wearing flowing robes of light and a bluish white veil.
40:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes she was seen wearing a golden crown.
40:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Other times she's reported to be wearing a halo of light surrounding her head.
40:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Her facial features were often obscured by the sheer intensity of the light.
40:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Other times her features could be seen clearly with lower dyes in a serene smile.
41:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to point out that this, again, this wasn't just a static image.
41:04
[SPEAKER_02]: She would often bow to the cross on the dome.
41:06
[SPEAKER_02]: She would bow to the crowd.
41:08
[SPEAKER_02]: She would move about the dome.
41:10
[SPEAKER_02]: She would seemingly bless the crowd by moving her hands back and forth.
41:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Although when she would turn directions, it was reported that her back and veil were visible as a 3D form.
41:23
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't like a flat image.
41:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And especially bizarre aspect of the apparition and the way that its appearances would often be heralded or accompanied by what people called, quote, doves of light.
41:46
[SPEAKER_02]: These were images of light resembling pigeons or doves that would fly about the dome during
41:56
[SPEAKER_02]: At time they even flew on nights when the apparition never appeared.
42:01
[SPEAKER_02]: They seemed to form a pure light, and although they soared through the air for considerable distances, they never were seen flapping their wings.
42:12
[SPEAKER_02]: The phenomena also was reported, or was repeatedly photographed.
42:18
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so, this is where it gives a little weird for me.
42:21
[SPEAKER_02]: The Doves were one of the most documented aspects of the manifestations.
42:24
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, before during and after the apparition would appear, the sky above the church would fill with dozens of luminous formations.
42:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Witnesses called them Doves, but were adamant that they were not birds.
42:36
[SPEAKER_02]: They were made of light.
42:38
[SPEAKER_02]: They could move it in credible speeds, they could stop mid-air instantly as well as change direction without notice.
42:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes they flew in perfect geometric formations, oftentimes taking the shape of the cross.
42:51
[SPEAKER_02]: They never appeared to flap their wings.
42:54
[SPEAKER_02]: They simply glided and flew throughout the night sky.
42:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds familiar.
43:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
43:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
43:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's pretty UFOing to me.
43:13
[SPEAKER_02]: That's very tech tack movement.
43:16
[SPEAKER_00]: But that would be, you know, and as much as we've Oh, shit, that also would lead creatives to the, you know, Mr. Blutzau.
43:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And what he's experienced.
43:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Which all which still almost takes you to a form of manipulation.
43:39
[SPEAKER_02]: If they're extraterrestrials, posing as religious figures, even if they're doing good things, that's still a form of manipulation.
43:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It is, you know, it's bad, but it's still manipulation.
43:59
[SPEAKER_00]: It is manipulation, but where I would give grace is if they were a civilization,
44:09
[SPEAKER_00]: that was trying to make positive contact that could be a viable way to do so.
44:18
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying right where they would be like, all right, well, let's just what would be a all around blanket image.
44:28
[SPEAKER_00]: That people wouldn't initially be a terrified of it wouldn't go to war over.
44:34
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we'll pick the Virgin Mary and we'll start to make contact.
44:38
[SPEAKER_00]: and when he's ourselves into this situation, I could understand that.
44:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and also, also hold that thought when I get toward the end, because since you said that, that makes sense as to why they would choose that particular spot, per se.
44:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
44:57
[SPEAKER_02]: From the book, from that miracles book, I pulled some eyewitness accounts, just to kind of iterate them to you guys about what people were seeing at the time.
45:07
[SPEAKER_02]: A brief description of one of the appearances at Zaytun has been placed on record by Bishop Samuel, an official of the Coptic Church, who saw the apparition repeatedly in early 1968.
45:18
[SPEAKER_02]: After journeying to Zaytun to investigate the matter, on his first visit, he had to wait well until the earth.
45:26
[SPEAKER_02]: well into the morning hours before the apparition materialized.
45:30
[SPEAKER_02]: At 245 in the morning, the Blessed Virgin Mary appeared in a complete luminous body as a radiant, phosphorescent statue.
45:37
[SPEAKER_02]: After a short while the apparition vanished, it reappeared before a clock in the morning, and remained until five o'clock dawn.
45:45
[SPEAKER_02]: The scene was overwhelming and magnificent.
45:47
[SPEAKER_02]: The apparition walked toward the west, sometimes moving its hand in blessing, sometimes bowing repeatedly.
45:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw some glittering beings around the apparition.
45:59
[SPEAKER_02]: They look like stars, and they were rather blue and color.
46:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Another more detailed account was prepared by Bishop.
46:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm going to butcher this.
46:07
[SPEAKER_02]: A fanosius?
46:10
[SPEAKER_02]: A fanosius?
46:13
[SPEAKER_00]: A Thanos?
46:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
46:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Another official...
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[SPEAKER_02]: of the Copic Church, who traveled to Zaitun from his home city of benice, who went at the directory quest of
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[SPEAKER_02]: Pope, Krillios VI.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Bishop reported his observations to the Pope and to the Reverend Jerome Palmer and American priest who had become an authority on the Zaytune of Fair.
46:40
[SPEAKER_02]: In 1969, a father Palmer went to Egypt specifically to interview witnesses to the Marion Visitations there.
46:47
[SPEAKER_02]: He eventually published a collected testimony in his book, Our Lady Returns to Egypt, which I did not find a copy of.
46:55
[SPEAKER_02]: The bishop made a first visit to the church on April 6th, obtained his first good look at the apparition at 345, the next morning from a street near the building.
47:06
[SPEAKER_02]: He's quoted by saying, the crowd was tremendous.
47:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It was too difficult to move among the people, but I tried and worked my way in front of the figure.
47:14
[SPEAKER_02]: and she was there, five or six meters above the dome, high in the sky, full figure, like a phosphorous statue, but not as stiff as a statue.
47:23
[SPEAKER_02]: There was movement of the body and of the clothing.
47:26
[SPEAKER_02]: It was very difficult for me to stand all the time before the figure, as human waves were pushing me from all sides.
47:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I would make an estimate that the crowd was at 100,000 or so, and an hour and an hour, I think I stood before the figure eight or nine times.
47:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I began to tire and thought it was sufficient of me.
47:45
[SPEAKER_02]: The Bishop then entered a small building to the south of the church, where he was able to watch the apparition through a window.
47:51
[SPEAKER_02]: quote, I stood inside for one hour from four to five o'clock looking at the figure.
47:56
[SPEAKER_02]: It never disappeared.
47:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Our lady looked north, she waved her hand, she blessed the people, sometimes in the direction from where we stood.
48:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Her garment swayed with the wind.
48:06
[SPEAKER_02]: She was very quiet, full of glory.
48:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It was something really supernatural, very, very heavenly.
48:13
[SPEAKER_02]: It then goes on to say, I saw a large, strange pigeon.
48:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Pigeon, it came from behind us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know from where.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It proceeded to the church and returned.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Several bright spotlights move quickly over us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some people were reciting verses from the Quran.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Some people were praying in Greek.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Others were singing, capped at hymns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was something really above the human experience that attracted and captivated us, which is interesting that you pointed that out earlier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He says, I stood there and tried to distinguish the face and the features.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't say there was something about the eyes and the mouth that I could see, but I could not make out very specific features.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That continued until about five minutes before five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The apparition began to grow fainer and little by little, the light gave way to a cloud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bright at first did less and less bright until she disappeared.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I went there many times later, but that was the appearance that left the greatest impression on me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A good description of the way the apparition would initially materialize was given to Father Palmer by a Mr. Shumbo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Shumbo was a Protestant who was working there for the mobile oil company in Egypt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He visited the church several times before finally observing the apparition from the lot that had been prepared near the church for the convenience of the crowds.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Quote, we picked what we thought was the best place from which to watch and sat there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At about 9.50, we saw the light over the church, much stronger than one could make with the flashlight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I had a feeling something was about to happen, a thin line or an edge of light appeared.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the light you would see when you opened a door that lighted a room.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Within seconds it formed into the shape of the virgin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could not speak.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All who were there said, or with me said, this is impossible.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All of the Muslims began to cry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This sight lasted for five minutes when the figure rose and then vanished.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could distinguish only a difference of color between the skin of the face and the hands in the veil.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was some color in the face in the hands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was evident when St. Mary walked back and forth.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When she disappeared from our side of the church, the people from the other side shouted and cried as they saw her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then she returned to our side for five minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When I returned to the car for something, I found it impossible to get back to the church because of the crowds.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could hear the people shouting, above the center dome, I saw Mary in full body, standing before the cross.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I could not describe what I felt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There were some, quote, pigeons, six or seven of them over the church.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Other signs of wonders offer an occurred in St. Mary's Church on those nights that the figure didn't appear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A Miss Zaki from New York, who'd visited Zaitun in August of 68, had described the phenomena in a diary of her trip.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she published a booklet called Our Lord's Mother visits Egypt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mr. Ermisszaki arrived in Zaitoon on August 7th and waited all throughout the nights of August 8th, 9th and 10th to finally see the apparition.
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[SPEAKER_02]: On two occasions, she saw mysterious flashes of light over the church, but the figure failed to materialize.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mrs. Zaki decided not to go to church on August 11th.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That night, the apparition did materialize at 140 but quickly disappeared.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Disappointed on having missed the Virgin's appearance, she went back to the church once again on the night of the 12th, some 4,000 people had gathered.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But after a considerable wait, she was startled to see a series of brilliant, bright flashes of light over the church.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then according to Mizaki, the large dome of light became, or the large dome of the church became engulfed in a brilliant blue-white light as if it were melting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The edges of light on top of the dome appeared to roll inward so that ones eyes were directed to the very center.
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[SPEAKER_02]: when the light vanished and reappeared momentarily.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When it did, Miss Zaki could plainly see the outline of the Blessed Virgin against the dome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The figure stood a mobile like a statue, but then she began to move her arms.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They move slowly upwards, right, Miss Zaki.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This lasted only a few seconds.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Two flashes of light like meteors or shooting stars came from behind the dome to form across over her head, and then all became dark and she was gone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The apparition didn't appear again that night, nor did it materialize the next night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Miss Zuckicap a day by day account of the Zaytun Miracles from April of 1968 till September of 1970, during which time the figure appeared at increasingly longer intervals.
52:51
[SPEAKER_02]: By the summer of 1968, the apparitions were already waning, though the flashing lights and doves continue to be seen regularly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In 1969, for example,
53:01
[SPEAKER_02]: A full form of the Virgin Mary was seen only on January 3, March 16, March 23, April 2, 13, 20 May 4, 10, September 13, October 11, and December 6.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The luminous and doves and eerie flashes of light were seen atop the church at least twice a week during these same months.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or in their place was a smoky fog that would frequently emit from the top of the building.
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[SPEAKER_02]: this her record recording of the fog wasn't the only time that people who reported seeing it, oftentimes before the apparitions clouds of red or orange fog were seen enveloping the church.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people said that this was incense, the same incense they used in Catholic Mass, perfuming the air and it could be smelled for miles around the church.
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[SPEAKER_02]: From there, I'm going to jump into some of the investigations that were put out.
53:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Just kind of quickly here, considering how the large crowds had gathered, not only the state, but also the church had to intervene.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Police, General Mottmud Taju, Taju.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The head of the Zaitun Police Force conducted exhaustive searches.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He ordered every building searched for a 15 mile radius around the church, looking for holographic or laser equipment that might produce the image of Mary.
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[SPEAKER_02]: keep in mind it was 1968 technology that time was pretty primitive so something of that scale would have been impossible to hide and he and his official reports that he found no evidence of fraud and he himself had seen the apparition.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He sent guys out to search every building in a 50 mile radius.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they were dedicated to trying to figure out what was going on there.
54:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's bonkers.
54:55
[SPEAKER_00]: about the non-likelyhood further, further evidence that it was in a projection.
55:03
[SPEAKER_00]: The simple fact that the bishop said you could see her dress fluttering in the wind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's the projection would not do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If that was a dead on statement, he could feel the wind coming from this direction and he saw her dress visibly move.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do the amount of
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[SPEAKER_00]: planning and preparation to make that fake, would be astronomical, crazy.
55:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you would have to be like, hey, Steve, the wind has changed directions.
55:34
[SPEAKER_00]: You must make her dress move and this dress.
55:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
55:37
[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.
55:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like that would be a subtle detail that a lot of people are faking that situation would completely overlook.
55:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
55:50
[SPEAKER_02]: The Copic Church, the Pope of the Copic Orthodox Church, Carlos VI established a commission of bishops and priests to go and investigate the phenomena.
55:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Needless to say, they were less enthusiastic because they figured they were just anticipating ridicule from everything that was going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The commission went to the site, blended in with the crowds and observed the apparition.
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[SPEAKER_02]: On May 4, 1968, the Copic Patriarch,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Patriarchate issued an official statement, quote, the patriarchal seed declares with full faith and great joy in Thanksgiving that the Blessed Virgin Mary has appeared many times in clear stable forms over several nights on the dome of the Church of St. Mary of Zaitoune.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The apparitions have been witnessed by thousands of citizens of different religions and foreigners.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These apparitions have been accompanied by miraculous healings verified by doctors.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Catholic Church, even though the apparition occurred at an orthodox church, also sin observers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cardinal Stefanos, the first, the Catholic Patriarch declared, quote, it is undoubtedly a true apparition.
57:02
[SPEAKER_02]: It has been seen by many Coptic Catholics, faithful that I know, trustworthy people who are not easily deceived.
57:09
[SPEAKER_02]: and a possilistic nonsio from the Vatican witnessed the operation and prepared a full report that was sent to Rome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The President of
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[SPEAKER_02]: Egypt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It has been confirmed through testimonies that President Nasser himself went to Zaitone in Cognito to witness the phenomena himself.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He hid in a garage across from the church.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He saw the apparition.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He immediately issued the local government to tear down multiple abandoned buildings around the church to facilitate the large crowds, letting more people witness the miracle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes crowds are reaching 250,000 people per night.
57:47
[SPEAKER_00]: That's dope.
57:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
57:49
[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that he went out of his way to do that.
57:50
[SPEAKER_00]: That's cool.
57:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
57:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
57:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I like that.
57:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Some people would be charged in tickets and he, he's like, get this cleaned up.
57:58
[SPEAKER_02]: People need to see this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
57:59
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think it did the same thing to him.
58:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, he saw it and was like, oh my god.
58:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
58:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I got, I put that quote here, an apparition without miracles is just the light show.
58:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Here are some of the documented miracles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A medical committee was established to verify cases of physical healings that happened in the presence of the apparition.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was led by Dr. Shafi Abdul Malik, the professor of Anatomy at the In Shams University.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The criteria were strict.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There had to be prior diagnosis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: proof of setting sudden healing and no scientific explanation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There were multiple cases, but here are three not counting for weeks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A woman by the name of Merva Zaharia had a terminal malignant tumor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Doctors gave her only weeks to live.
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[SPEAKER_02]: After praying during one of the manifestations of the Virgin Mary, she fell overcome by an intense heat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Afterwards, she had subsequent x-rays which showed the complete disappearance of the cancerous mass.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Doctors confirmed that there was no clinical explanation for the mass to have disappeared.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
59:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
59:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Case number two, a man paralyzed for years, was carried into the crowd on a stretcher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Once the apparition appeared and bowed toward the crowd, the man stood up and walked.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This happened in front of thousands of people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A Muslim man who had been mute from birth stared at the apparition and the light that she produced.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And as he set there and stared, he said the first word that he had ever said and it was Mary.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These cases as well as others are preserved in the archives of the church of Zaitoune, complete with the before and after medical records.
59:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're doing their new religions.
59:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love how they were picky about it, too.
59:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because it doesn't even matter.
59:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Like almost like what you say about the sidings of Bigfoot or UFOs, all it takes is from one of it to be a legit miracle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: 100%.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you look into the into the Catholic church for something to be a miracle that it's very meticulously picked apart.
1:00:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Like not everything just becomes a miracle.
1:00:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Like is is designated a miracle, you know, like they're like whoops and stuff that's got to you got to go through to get that I'm going to talk a little bit about the history of the exact spot because as Kyle was saying earlier,
1:00:33
[SPEAKER_02]: the the energy put toward this.
1:00:38
[SPEAKER_02]: could also lead it to almost be some sort of egregorical thought form that's possibly creating like you got a look through every avenue here but the land upon which the structure was built, the structure being the church was donated to the Coptic Church in 1920 by a businessman named
1:01:05
[SPEAKER_02]: after, or his family anyway, after one of its members had experienced a strange dream.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Virgin Mary appeared and urged him to build a church on the property.
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[SPEAKER_02]: St. Mary's was built in 1925.
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[SPEAKER_02]: At the time, the same family member had another dream.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This time, the Virgin Mary promised to appear at the church the following year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So even before the Zitun Miracle from 68 to 71, there existed a 40-year tradition that the Marion visitation would eventually take place at the point of the church.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember two of the Zitun's also steeped in a reach Marion tradition where the Holy Family is said to have fled after leaving Judea.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that brings up
1:01:49
[SPEAKER_02]: lore and energy tied to that specific spot because they said that there was a sick and more tree where they built the church and that sick and more tree is where supposedly Mary had stopped the rest in the shade holding baby Jesus.
1:02:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So then this dude's family had a dream or this dude's family member had a dream, you need to build a church here and Mary will appear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They built
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[SPEAKER_02]: the Marion Apparition happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.
1:02:24
[SPEAKER_02]: So could that be, like we kind of talked about the UFO lore, you know, could that be that there was so much anticipation that a Marion Apparition was gonna appear there?
1:02:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Could there finally have been enough energy put toward it to pop her into reality?
1:02:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Just for that split second, or just for that small amount of time where for Rook saw her, and then as soon as he saw her and started yelling, more and more people immediately start to pop an energy into her, pop an intent into her, and then that almost powered the apparition for the next three years.
1:03:12
[SPEAKER_00]: That, I mean, that's a question that we would never be able to answer, because the answer to that would require you to be present in that time, in that particular place to verify or
1:03:37
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, was it, was it super thick in that local community?
1:03:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, did everybody know that story, did everybody believe that story?
1:03:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Or was it just the people of the church knew the story and then that's as, you know, that's goes against.
1:03:51
[SPEAKER_02]: there which that that's all I've got for for the episode, but I I want to hear everybody's opinion post it posted in the comments what do you think happened inside tune was it a true miracle was it some sort of alien manipulation was it some sort of a
1:04:15
[SPEAKER_02]: but there were people in the comments that were there when they were children that were there and saw it.
1:04:22
[SPEAKER_00]: That's wild.
1:04:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Crazy shit.
1:04:26
[SPEAKER_00]: That's wild.
1:04:27
[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
1:04:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:04:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I think legitimately no matter which way you look at it, it's miracle.
1:04:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Be it, be it a religious deity.
1:04:37
[SPEAKER_00]: or some type of extraterrestrial influence, regardless to me, it was a miracle because it came down.
1:04:47
[SPEAKER_00]: It did good.
1:04:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
1:04:50
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in an exit, I wish those things would happen more often.
1:04:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that it would completely revitalize the human race.
1:05:00
[SPEAKER_00]: If these things happened, and I think you're right, I think there's something to it about,
1:05:06
[SPEAKER_00]: the, you know, trying to monetize these situations and then technology being a massive, a massive split in our belief systems.
1:05:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, be it religious or because, you know, I know in my head and my existence.
1:05:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that, you know, like like our,
1:05:29
[SPEAKER_00]: uh, rating comment that you know, suggest that we need to find, find our bibles and Jesus and stuff.
1:05:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I, I'm, I'm never going to turn to the Bible.
1:05:41
[SPEAKER_00]: A mile of my belief structure is completely different than the Bible.
1:05:44
[SPEAKER_00]: However, I still do believe in a greater power of sorts.
1:05:52
[UNKNOWN]: Uh,
1:05:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And I've told you, Steve, like the, the, that stretch where we had that, all that weird stuff happening, I had what I would call religious acknowledgment that I'll never, ever, ever be able to explain.
1:06:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, ever.
1:06:13
[SPEAKER_00]: That was weird.
1:06:13
[SPEAKER_00]: My wife could also get on here and tell you, we saw
1:06:19
[SPEAKER_00]: cross-form in the sky and she tried to take a picture of it and could not take a picture of it.
1:06:24
[SPEAKER_00]: But we, both of us, all that mother fucker, is fucking clear as day in the middle of it.
1:06:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Widow, I mean, it was a mass, it was the clouds were fucking beautiful that day.
1:06:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like these dark storm clouds and look like they were, look like they're mountains and all like I remember saying that looks biblical.
1:06:46
[SPEAKER_00]: and then a cross formed right in the center opening.
1:06:49
[SPEAKER_00]: And just all the clouds come together and they formed that cross.
1:06:54
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, Sean, I'm like, do you see that?
1:06:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, yeah, I do.
1:06:57
[SPEAKER_00]: And she got her phone out.
1:06:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And was trying to record it and take a picture of it and she could do neither.
1:07:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's crazy.
1:07:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the same time whenever the lady came up to us and the grocery store and gave me the rosary rings.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brother, there's, I'll never, I'll never be able to explain that and in sin and like that change the outlook of my life.
1:07:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Those interactions that time in my life.
1:07:26
[SPEAKER_00]: To me, it, it, it was another push in the direction of you are, you're a potato like we're watching out for you.
1:07:34
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it doesn't, to me, it doesn't matter what you call it or what it is that's watching out for me.
1:07:42
[SPEAKER_00]: The acknowledgment that something beyond here is watching out for me is all I need.
1:07:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:07:48
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
1:07:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't give a shit if it's a fucking alien.
1:07:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't fucking care if it's what God has depicted, that's a relevant to me.
1:07:59
[SPEAKER_00]: All that matters to me is that there's a higher power that has, that has great intentions that is watching out for me.
1:08:06
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all that matters to me.
1:08:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:08:12
[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was a bizarre time for us because I was right around the time when I was asking, I'm doing I was putting tons of intent about protection out there, about wanting to get protection for us and this that and the other, it was a fucking weird time.
1:08:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I mean, I wish these these these things happen more often.
1:08:38
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they would change so many people for the better.
1:08:42
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it doesn't, you don't have to be perceived a Bible thumbper to make your life positive.
1:08:49
[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't have to do that.
1:08:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And on that note, what if they are happening like that?
1:08:54
[SPEAKER_02]: What you experienced,
1:08:56
[SPEAKER_02]: is on par with what they experience, only it was personal to you and you and your wife.
1:09:02
[SPEAKER_02]: It's true.
1:09:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of people are isolated in it.
1:09:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a lot of people just, but if you look at the other big, the other big initial Marian apparitions, like lords and stuff, like that happened pretty singularly, like the initial interaction was between children or just a single person.
1:09:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And it almost like grew from there.
1:09:25
[SPEAKER_02]: But it makes me wonder how many times these things have happened to people and people just ride them off.
1:09:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Not necessarily ride them off, but just put them in the back of their brain.
1:09:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Like man, that was pretty profound, crazy experience, but.
1:09:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, like what like to play devil's advocate to that, what if what if Mary did present herself in the day and just nobody was looking up?
1:09:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you didn't see the light, you know?
1:09:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we're all so busy with our computer screens and all that bullshit that We just miss it because we're doing this the whole time absolutely right, man.
1:10:02
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
1:10:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
1:10:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm also sitting here thinking about like Though like if you go if you go with the UFO route like there have been cases where abduction
1:10:18
[SPEAKER_02]: victims have come back with ailments healed, which is on par.
1:10:24
[SPEAKER_02]: If it were a thought form, essentially you could play the card that the collective consciousness is expecting miracles so they happen.
1:10:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the collective consciousness heals have healed these select few.
1:10:44
[SPEAKER_02]: which I mean there's almost been cases of that too like sure I don't know it's so weird it's so crazy it is but it's awesome it is awesome that's what I got for you hollow cult hope you enjoyed it hope if nothing else has got your brain turned in
1:11:04
[SPEAKER_02]: So again, let us know what you think in the comments and the discord and the chats.
1:11:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Let us know, interact with us.
1:11:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Let us know what you think.
1:11:14
[SPEAKER_02]: If you think if you have experienced a miracle of your own, shoot it to us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Shit's yes, please.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We want to know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And on that note, we love you guys.
1:11:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for choosing us to hang out with you this Monday.
1:11:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Stay safe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Stay weird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Keep your eyes out for miracles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The world needs some.