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Interview with ECW's Sign Guy Dudley - FROM THE VAULT · The Major Wrestling Figure Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Well return after these messengers.
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  Speaker 2: YEAHS Podcast showing.
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  Speaker 1: March alrighty, welcome back to Major Marx dot com exclusive
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  Speaker 1: interview bonus podcast. We're here with E. C W original
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  Speaker 1: good friend of the show, sign Guy Dudley, LOUI E
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  Speaker 1: dangerously LOUD'ANGELI correct?
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  Speaker 3: I say got them all?
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  Speaker 1: Oh you got him.
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  Speaker 4: He's got a new nickname always ready because we just
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  Speaker 4: aske him five minutes ago.
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  Speaker 1: He was ready to go. Oh my gimmick, I'll get
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  Speaker 1: over huge with that.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not like Raven where it's like Johnny Polo, Raven, Scottie,
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  Speaker 5: Flamingo Scott.
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  Speaker 1: And you ever just sitting on the toilet ball look
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  Speaker 1: up Gallows with many how many names he's had.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's pretty nuts. And you've if you go through.
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  Speaker 1: It, that's actually really true.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, very very good point, Louke.
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  Speaker 1: Pleasure to having on the show. Also, pleasure to have
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  Speaker 1: you here at Impact. I mean you're out of the
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  Speaker 1: wrestling business for fifteen years, like eleven or twelve? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: What and what? What what did this to you? What
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  Speaker 3: made you?
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  Speaker 1: You know what? Man?
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  Speaker 5: It was this kind of like you know, I was
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  Speaker 5: at I was at CIRCUSLA for eleven years in Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: Had a great run there.
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  Speaker 5: It was awesome, but you know, we relaunched the brand
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  Speaker 5: and things like that, and it's kind of like passion
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  Speaker 5: was going away to be frank and for me having
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  Speaker 5: a great nine years there, in the last two years
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  Speaker 5: kind of being like, eh, it was you know, it
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  Speaker 5: was a disservice to them.
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  Speaker 1: To me, I wasn't feeling it.
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  Speaker 5: So when time came to go, I left and I
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  Speaker 5: took some time off, and unbeknownst to h everyone, I
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  Speaker 5: got reached out to on LinkedIn by Dan our Production,
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  Speaker 5: a man of everything, saying, hey, my name is Dan.
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  Speaker 5: I worked for a company called Anthem Anthem and.
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  Speaker 3: I just completely assumed Dreamer, like oh no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it is crazy. What Dan rey all.
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  Speaker 5: He's a great guy for real, And he's like, I
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  Speaker 5: have the email. I work for Anthem. We're having trouble
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  Speaker 5: with uh with some sales thing for this company called
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  Speaker 5: Impact Wrestling. I'm like, is this a rib Like I
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  Speaker 5: was like huh, So I said, sure, like I'll talk,
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  Speaker 5: that's fine. So he calls me up and we're chatting.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, hey, do you know, like I know
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  Speaker 5: Scott and knowing everybody there for like twenty five years.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, what Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It was literally say this is why we have you
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  Speaker 4: on Major Mark.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, today's years old.
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  Speaker 1: I just completely assumed that Dreamer just fucking scouted you
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  Speaker 1: and you know, said, hey, there's a spot.
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  Speaker 3: I know you know you'vent circing is really crazy.
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  Speaker 5: So it was it was basically like a recruiting cold call,
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  Speaker 5: and then we start chatting. I came on as a
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  Speaker 5: consultant for the first like for like five months. The
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  Speaker 5: initial discussion was also like, hey, if it go as well,
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  Speaker 5: we'd like to maybe talk a full time job stuff
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  Speaker 5: like that.
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  Speaker 1: So I ended up what happened and like it was
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  Speaker 1: junior July.
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  Speaker 5: We start having those conversations, and by September I was
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  Speaker 5: in You.
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  Speaker 1: Started last April and Poughkeepsie, right, was that Philly the week? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Philly? Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And then look, it was really strange in Philly, to
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  Speaker 5: be honest, and I've shared this with a bunch of people.
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  Speaker 5: It was like stepping back into the wrestling world and
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  Speaker 5: then also not being familiar with a lot like a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot I didn't know many of the guys, like anyone's name, hey.
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  Speaker 1: Man, Hamburger, Wendy Berger. I didn't know.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know a lot of the guys. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I knew like faces and names, piece it all together.
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  Speaker 5: So it's a little apprehensive.
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  Speaker 1: To be honest. Yeah, it was like it was a
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  Speaker 1: little strange.
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  Speaker 5: And then in Poughkeepsie, you kind of that's where it
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  Speaker 5: starts sinking in, Like, Yeah, first of all, this company
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  Speaker 5: works their asses off. The locker room is cool. It's
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  Speaker 5: everything I've heard, because you know, sometimes you hear that
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  Speaker 5: ship like yeah, oh this locker room is great, and
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  Speaker 5: you're going suck. It's just like okay, you know. But
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  Speaker 5: that's that's kind of what brought me back in. And
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  Speaker 5: I see impact as like there's just so much we
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  Speaker 5: can do, so much we are doing that we haven't
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  Speaker 5: been able to do before and whatnot. But it's not
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  Speaker 5: on what not what not, but impact is on whatnot,
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  Speaker 5: by the ways. So it was a combination of opportunity
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  Speaker 5: and just I always had a passion for wrestling, and
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  Speaker 5: I always knew I would get back.
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  Speaker 1: Into the business. It was always a goal of mine.
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  Speaker 5: That I have two daughters and they were a lot older,
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  Speaker 5: so they're thirteen and seventeen now. Because of the travel
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  Speaker 5: and everything, so that is cool.
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  Speaker 1: Timing wise, you got to be home for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of their like, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that really is.
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  Speaker 5: Super important to me because I always thought about it.
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  Speaker 5: If I go back to wrestling, it's going to be
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  Speaker 5: what it is as far as travel goes. But I
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  Speaker 5: also have the you know, massive, a massive what's incentive
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  Speaker 5: because I work out of my house, so I see
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  Speaker 5: my kids like NonStop, and so it all bounces out.
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  Speaker 5: That's really long answer, but it was always something I
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  Speaker 5: wanted to do. When this opportunity came up, and it
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  Speaker 5: took me a minute to kind of get it. You know,
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  Speaker 5: business has changed since I've been around, but totally love
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  Speaker 5: it now.
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  Speaker 3: So that's now, let's talk about your earliest.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, that's great in ew. No, well, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: get to that too, But I want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: you as a kid growing up, Like, what were the
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  Speaker 1: things you were into, the toys you were liked, first
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  Speaker 1: impressions of wrestling, things like that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so when my first toys were Star Wars nineteen
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  Speaker 5: seventy seven.
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  Speaker 3: I have the whole set. Now. Obviously I was too young.
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  Speaker 1: I grew up.
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  Speaker 4: I was born in eighty five, and I didn't recognize
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  Speaker 4: or realize what Star Wars was until like the re
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  Speaker 4: releases in the nineties. Yeah, Like now I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 4: I need to have those original ones because you know,
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  Speaker 4: even we just want to do a toy store today, and
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  Speaker 4: just looking at the whole set there, the old like
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  Speaker 4: the Millennium Falcon or the main Ewalk village. It it's
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  Speaker 4: so much cool stuff and I could understand how a
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  Speaker 4: kid from that time, we're just like their lives were
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  Speaker 4: taken over by this.
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  Speaker 1: I was mind blown. I was, you know, five or
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  Speaker 1: six years old.
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  Speaker 5: I remember Star Wars like was blowing up and the
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  Speaker 5: toys were all sold out and it's not.
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  Speaker 1: Like it is now where you can go. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: guess that's something of them. But they weren't like just
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  Speaker 1: all over the shelves. It was like a rat race
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing.
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  Speaker 5: It was a right but they had an end cap
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  Speaker 5: setup that I have a picture of that's just nuts,
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  Speaker 5: like from when they originally were sold in toy stores,
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  Speaker 5: like the original setups. But I remember my mom coming
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  Speaker 5: home one day from Kitty City, which.
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  Speaker 3: Was yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Which was the toy store by my house, was just
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  Speaker 5: a big bag of every figure except for the Jahua
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  Speaker 5: because the Jahua was really hard to find initially, and
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  Speaker 5: I remember for Christmas, my cousin got me the jah
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  Speaker 5: Wa and dude, I ripped those things open. I played
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  Speaker 5: every scene you can imagine from from Star Wars and
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  Speaker 5: the guns and and then so like when Empire Strikes
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  Speaker 5: Back came back, I was.
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  Speaker 1: Huge in the like Hoth and all those place sets.
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  Speaker 3: That's what that was.
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  Speaker 4: That was there today, the toy store, all the cool
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  Speaker 4: hot place sets.
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  Speaker 1: Love.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't recreate that stuff for the power of the
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  Speaker 4: force when we were kids.
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  Speaker 1: You know, not the hot, not the yeah, well not eventually, no,
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  Speaker 1: is it I was just thinking, as you're going to
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  Speaker 1: do that, isn't it crazy that, like all the things
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  Speaker 1: have happened in your life that you're probably crazy epic
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  Speaker 1: stuff that you forgot, But these like impressions that toys
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  Speaker 1: made on you when you were a kid just stick.
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  Speaker 1: That's like something about our show that I think, like
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  Speaker 1: if you were a collector and you get it, you
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  Speaker 1: get it. And it's hard to explain to someone who doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: But if you know, you know, and there's like no
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  Speaker 1: need for the explanation because it's so totally deeply sentimental
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  Speaker 1: and impressionable. Because like these vivid details, that's crazy. I
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  Speaker 1: remember something five or six years years old.
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  Speaker 5: It was it was like it was yesterday, bag toys
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  Speaker 5: and you go from there. And then for like when
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  Speaker 5: I got into wrestling, and I got into wrestling through
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  Speaker 5: my my grandfather and when so I would go so
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  Speaker 5: my mom worked, so a lot of times he would like,
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  Speaker 5: babysit me, watch me whatever, and we would watch wrestling.
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  Speaker 5: And I remember watching I think it was NWA. They
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  Speaker 5: put a big red X across the screen. Did you
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  Speaker 5: ever see those back in the day, So when guys
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  Speaker 5: would get like color, they would red exit.
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  Speaker 1: On the Oh wow, okay, yeah, I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 1: It is like and you grew up in the Philly area,
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  Speaker 1: so I had all the TV, so I think it
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  Speaker 1: was NWA. I don't think it was WWP time, but
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  Speaker 1: that red X caught me. I was like, why is
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  Speaker 1: there a red X on the screen? And then all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden you were like, what's behind the red X?
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  Speaker 1: And then that's how wrestling kind of started for me.
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  Speaker 1: And there was an angle I saw with like the Barbarian,
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Valliant, the Warlord and Pistol Pez Wattley and they
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  Speaker 1: just and Paul Jones. They killed pistol Pez Wattley and
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  Speaker 1: all this.
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  Speaker 5: Like just beating him up and there's like blood everywhere,
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  Speaker 5: and I was like, this is awesome, and that was
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  Speaker 5: kind of my entry point. And then I start watching WWF.
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  Speaker 5: I was always watching NWA, HULLL Cogan and everything like
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  Speaker 5: that for a show at the Spectrum was in nineteen
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  Speaker 5: eighty six. It's funny because Tommy and I were just
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  Speaker 5: talking about it was what was your first show? And
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  Speaker 5: I still remember the whole lineup. He's like, that's a
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  Speaker 5: hell of a show, and I was like, looking back
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  Speaker 5: on it, you're like, dude, that it.
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  Speaker 3: Was actually when if you could find like the program
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  Speaker 3: or something to that.
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  Speaker 5: I found the prison broadcast like because I remember back well,
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  Speaker 5: you guys don't.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe don't know, yeah, but I'm aware.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Like so day would air in Philadelphia and
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  Speaker 5: New York and Boston.
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  Speaker 1: The house show is the next day. Yea, So that
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  Speaker 1: was awesome.
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  Speaker 5: I always wanted to go, but if I couldn't go,
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  Speaker 5: I could always watch it. So now you can watch
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  Speaker 5: it again. So I pretty watched that show again. I
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  Speaker 5: wish I could see eleven. I went to and I
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  Speaker 5: was a kid, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean the best part of those for me was
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  Speaker 4: like you buy the program and had like the match
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  Speaker 4: lineups and those are st like iconic.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, my mom, you know, rest rest in peace.
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  Speaker 1: But she threw those out. Oh man, And I tell
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  Speaker 1: you man, I had. That was my thing.
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  Speaker 5: All I wanted was the lineup card because they were
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  Speaker 5: the coolest things like ever. And I have once from
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  Speaker 5: like later years, but I don't have like eighty six,
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  Speaker 5: eighty seven, eighty eight when it was on the NWA
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  Speaker 5: used to like type it on like a white piece
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  Speaker 5: of paper, like it was not like even the lines, No,
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  Speaker 5: it was just literally like a white sheet.
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  Speaker 1: But it was really cool. Did this wrestling Fantom of
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  Speaker 1: your LJ and guy did that to turn into that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: So pretty fast, Like so we're just getting w magazine.
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  Speaker 5: I still have like the first issue He'll Billy Jim
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  Speaker 5: on the cover and all that. I think he was
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  Speaker 5: the first cover.
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  Speaker 1: And inside were the figures and I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: need like all these like right away, and the same
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  Speaker 1: same kind of thing.
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  Speaker 5: I was going to Kitty City and they had they
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  Speaker 5: had a lot of like schnook.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like people have these stories that. Yeah, yeah, they're
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  Speaker 1: peg warmers, right. It was tough to get it was
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  Speaker 1: characters for me. It was tough to get the iron cheek. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I could get stud I could get Andre Hogan was
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  Speaker 5: definitely around, Schnooking wasn't around, but the iron cheek was
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  Speaker 5: really hard to find. And again my mom picked me up.
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  Speaker 5: I can't one day hands me a bag. There's the
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  Speaker 5: chic and you're just like yes with the boots. And
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  Speaker 5: I still have all these. I mean, they've all been
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  Speaker 5: played with.
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  Speaker 1: They they don't age well if they've if they've been loved,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but do.
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  Speaker 5: You guys like mind have like blood on them? Because
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  Speaker 5: I used to put markers on them a color.
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  Speaker 4: I would pick the Crayola, like the Craola marker and
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  Speaker 4: if you squeeze it on, it would like drip blood down.
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  Speaker 3: But it was washable marker.
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  Speaker 1: You never did that. Brian is something where he would
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  Speaker 1: bite them.
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  Speaker 4: He's like his childhood bite mark I was like a
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  Speaker 4: baby when these came out, you know, so like I
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  Speaker 4: still have all my childhood ones. Like Jim Kninhard's fingers
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  Speaker 4: are off because his fingers, you know, you can actually
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  Speaker 4: bite you on each fing because it was.
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  Speaker 3: Like a baby get to destroy.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, it was yeah, seriously right, yeah, so mine not
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  Speaker 5: And then if I didn't have a red marker that day,
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  Speaker 5: they were bleeding green.
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  Speaker 1: It was just you know, you know what. I really
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  Speaker 1: like those. So those figures are awesome. With the A W.
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  Speaker 5: A Remcos oh your Remco guy all time favorite wow
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  Speaker 5: because they could move and yeah, of course in the
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  Speaker 5: ring the A W.
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  Speaker 1: A ring was just so ridiculous. But yeah, so, and
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  Speaker 1: they have colors and I still have all those who
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  Speaker 1: did you have of those? I had? The first first
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  Speaker 1: guys I brought were road Warriors in the one pack
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  Speaker 1: and the other pack was it was Rick Martel and Backwinkle.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it's something with.
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  Speaker 3: Claire and Martel.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was Flair Martel.
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  Speaker 5: And then I had those two guys. I had Stephen Original,
• 11:43
  Speaker 5: Steve Regal, Yeah, Jamie Garvin and Electric Electricity.
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  Speaker 4: That precious. I just bought that figure like mint in
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  Speaker 4: package maybe like two or three years ago. That precious,
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  Speaker 4: and like none of them have what's the like preserve
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  Speaker 4: even a brand new one is like melting, like the plastic.
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  Speaker 4: There's something in the plastic, like you can't find.
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  Speaker 3: A perfect one. It doesn't.
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  Speaker 4: I literally opened it up and it's like disintegrating because
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  Speaker 4: it was just they just took it from some other
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  Speaker 4: toy line.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't produce it themselves.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. But Remco is coming back, I know. I
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  Speaker 1: think Brian told me.
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  Speaker 3: You might have to start recollecting those.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I used to book matches and I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I would do that now.
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  Speaker 3: Hear about your fig fed?
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: Was your fig fed?
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  Speaker 3: Did you?
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  Speaker 1: Did you click remcos into the end? Because that last
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  Speaker 1: set the single card ones are ridiculously.
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  Speaker 5: I think there was a I think I was still
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  Speaker 5: into wrestling, but it was we couldn't buy toys and
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  Speaker 5: stuff like that, so occasionally just kind of just like faded.
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  Speaker 5: I think my last wrestling purchase was I think I
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  Speaker 5: stole uh oh yeah, So remember the Rocky Ring the Rocky.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, well right, the Hogan is naked. You know he's
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  Speaker 4: in there, but he's like a naked Ever did you
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  Speaker 4: buy that or yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I might.
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  Speaker 4: The Hogan he's wearing like skin colored trucks.
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  Speaker 1: No, I he definitely didn't have any accessory.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's just like a skid color you ever see this?
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  Speaker 4: I got to pull it up later. Maybe the one
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  Speaker 4: I saw was No, they make that. They make like
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  Speaker 4: you know, Rocky clubber lang Uh and Lis, But this
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  Speaker 4: particular one has like it's like a molded trunks.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm gonna look it up. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna look it up.
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  Speaker 1: I had to steal him. I don't have any money
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  Speaker 1: I needed him for I needed him for bookings.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you had a Remco fig fed. Yes, how did
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  Speaker 3: that go? Any memories of that?
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  Speaker 1: I just had a lot of fun with him.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 5: I used to tape record the matches because I would
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  Speaker 5: call them also, so you play by play.
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  Speaker 1: That was one of those things that I like, I
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  Speaker 1: think it like. It exploded my wrestling fandom because I
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  Speaker 1: had my own little wrestling fed that I felt in
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  Speaker 1: charge of and stuff. Right, Yeah, it's only bound by
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  Speaker 1: your creativity kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And I would try to book Loops and this was
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  Speaker 5: when I was really young Loops. Oh yeah, we'd have
• 13:54
  Speaker 5: a one pm show.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: Ye what prey forward thinking, Well, it was in my bedroom.
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: The other was in like my sister's bed was different arenas.
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: I had a lot. Yeah, that's a weird thing that
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: it was just me, But I didn't grasp like different
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: towns until I actually became wrestling.
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: I went to different towns.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to be like they're live in Pittsburgh.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: It's hard for me to even like really as a kid,
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: I didn't like, did you grasp that?
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: Well? One time I remember was watching like Sunday Night
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: Heat and it was like Big Boss Man versus Test
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: and they did the same match like weeks prior to
• 14:25
  Speaker 4: NASA call the same house.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: I'm like what, I'm like, it's the same match.
• 14:31
  Speaker 5: I used to be blown away by that and now
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: like because we didn't, I didn't know it then as
• 14:36
  Speaker 5: much as I know it now, where it's like, yeah,
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: the house shows were all the same matches and like
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: NWA would run like they did that one it was
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: Steamboat and Flare and like Maryland and they drove up
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: the Philly and did it the same day, same like
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: fifty five minute match.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean that's pretty nuts. But yeah, I am.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: What's really nuts is the people that know this and
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: then follow the shows and keep cut like you know
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like whatever your red hat sign, guy,
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing him for like three nights in all, I'm
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: going dude, you've seen the same exact so I guess
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the loyalty. And when I went to college is.
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: When I start and that's when I start getting in
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: the ec W and then I start going to the
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: I went to school university at Hartford, so Hartford Civic Center,
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: Springfield Civic Center, Boston Spots. Yeah, but that's when I
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: kind of was like, what's going on here? You know,
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: I R S versus Razor. Ramone has the same finish
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: that it did last week.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: He goes, Razor goes over and he leaves and he
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: gets called back or like what so so get into that,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: how did this fandom turn into we're all crazy for
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: our fandom turns into that we want to get involved
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: in this.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: You know, for me, it was I was pretty out
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: of it. You know, I just stopped watching probably somewhere.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: In high school. I want to say, in at your
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: age range that like early nineties wrestling is probably not I.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: Would I did watch it, but you're like Hazebro wrestling
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: figures for you then there was no house.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like I'm thinking, you're too old and that's
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: probably like a thing to your sorry to your age
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: and you know, what I mean, who who, Like I'm
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: the obviously like as I got older, I got like
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: ecw nttitude or I'm like, oh yeah, I was cool,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: kind of like natural person. It was a nice bridge
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: for us to like from the cartoon wrestling. We kind
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: of grew up onto that, but you definitely didn't have that.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: It was like it was a weird time.
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: Like I would go to the Philadelphia Civic Center to
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: watch WCW shows that had like two hundred people.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: It was that time in the business where I was like,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: oh my god, right, scandal down. Yeah, everything was just bad,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: and so I just kind of faded away.
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: And then I went to college and like I maybe
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: my junior year or something, I came home for Christmas
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: break and I put on Philadelpha was scrolling through channels,
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: and I see Eddie Gilbert and Terry Funk beating the
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: shit out of each other with a chain. I'm like,
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: what's this because Funk you know.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Eighty nine or yeah.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: I was always a big Gilbert fan. So I'm watching
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: us like this is awesome, and they're like, you know,
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: I was it ultra class or something's coming to New Philadelphia.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: I'm like Philadelphia and I was like class ninety three something. Yeah,
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: I did go to that, so it was maybe ninety
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: two this happened, and I, uh, I remember seeing Philly
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: and I'm like Swanson and written.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Are like, where the hell is that?
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: Like I had no idea really, and then I went
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: to Uh, I went to a TV taping. I think
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: I went by myself and I have a lot of
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: friends who are still in the wrestling, but like I
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: remember the first match was like Ivan coll Off and somebody.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: I was like, whoa Ivan coll Offs here? Because I'm
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: remembering like the n W a SO and that was
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: Eastern Championship Wrestling early.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: People don't realize people on that roster, like Snooker Morocco
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: was yeah, singles es, you know, like he was here.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Tray heath Man thought him everything he knows.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: It's take a quick little break here to show that
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: that that that Hoga that came to the ring is
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: indeed naked. I'm showing you a picture that is the
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: one I had. Just it's just skin colored trucks. It's
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: like non acceptable, right, Like that's why I don't get
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: it for my collection. I can't listen. I love Hogan,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: but I don't know if I love Hogan's Hog. I
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: don't know if I can display Hogan's Hog. You know
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, everyone, I don't know if I get
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: this is display like proud Like one time I bought
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: an l j and Miss Elizabeth it was a prototype
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: and she was naked and like this, this like the
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: guys in the factory made this, you know, real, this
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: was just like in the factory. This's non mess peers
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: that they made it. Kind of like it's a little
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: not like a rib but like a little inside joke.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Had to be a rib of the Ljaan designers or something. Dude,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: but Pubic care naked nipples, I swear to God. So
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: I bought it because I collect like pre production stuff.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: And then I got like, well, what am I gonna
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: do with this because I can't Like Macham would be
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: very upset if I had this like proudly and it's
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: just so oddso like I call like a backer, like
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: it was it was on display, but like things were
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: covering us, you didn't know. And then we put out
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: a YouTube video like the history of the l j NS,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: and I held it up, we blurred it right, and
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: we talked about and then someone contacted me. Long story short,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: I sold it for forty five thousand dollars.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: What'd you buy it for?
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: It was in a whole lot that Oh my god.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: But so you just crushed.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I mean I made I definitely made money.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Definitely were like getting rid of it because you can't
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: display it anyway. That was strange man across the line.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: So mine was like a prototype.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: It was all resident unpainted, right, But then once this
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: was public that I had sold it another one. It's
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: still on eBay to this day, painted like painted nipples
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: like everything. So how many of these naked Elizabeths are
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: out there? Naked Elizabeth? It's it's very just. But it's
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: been sitting up there for years. I don't think there's
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: any I mean, how many people in the market for
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: naked Elizabeth figure?
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: You know, like you don't have many kids. I have
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: two daughters. I can have a naked Miss Elizabeth of
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: my shelf.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Like it's like, it's very strange, all.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Right, So how do you get into e c W.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: You go as a fan? How does that all work?
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: When as a fan for Ultra Clash and then oh
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: my gosh, I just.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Saw recently, I just saw it.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I put in miss Elizabeth l j n highest
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: thing and nothing's there.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Go to like solder or over listings, completed sales. Yeah,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: breaking news. I swear I just saw it a couple
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: of days ago.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: On there.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Look at this, we're talking about e c W and
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: naked Elizabeth figures.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: These are things that don't I don't wake up thinking about.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Here's the one that was on ebays Like you can, dude,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: what I That's what I wanted, the love of reaction.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Let's get out of here, like molded, molded, pubt get out.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: No way that it's wild alright, So anyway e c W.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: So you go to a c W show by yourself.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I went to.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: TV taping and then I went to Ultra Clash, which
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: was you know, it was like what was it, uh
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Stan Hanson Abbey, Oh wow, Eddie Gilbert and Funk main event,
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, and soul of It. And that was the
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: night that Eddie like quit and like they had the
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: little shoot in the back. Did you ever hear about that?
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Kind of sort of But I never know who's lying
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: or telling the truth about what I.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Wasn't in the back. I just because I was still in,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: you know, and as a fan, and yeah, I guess
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: him and Paul bring there.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: They were like best friends and falling out.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they went Todd, like Eddie and Todd had a
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: falling out from my understanding, and they were bringing Paul in,
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: and Paul was bringing public Enemy Taz and Dreamer and
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: that's how that all transitioned. But it's funny to be
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: that I was there that night, not knowing what was
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: going In the back. I was justs like to meet
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: Eddie Gilbert and have signed some ship.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I always loved him. I always thought.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Eddie Gilber was a great power town. Get do they
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: haven't signed?
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know. They have seven hundred talent signed. Yeah
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: you guys using me for like a figure. There's so
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: much cool hot stuff.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Right, I think there's a there's meat there on the bone.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: So then I went to a show in December and
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I was just literally leaving the building and on the
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: floor was E. C. W. Action Wire, which was the program, and.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: I just grabbed it and it's on the back like
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: interested in contributing or something called Gabe kind of like
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: that thing you signed his number. I still I still
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: have that stuff though, like that thing you showed me yesterday,
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: I blew me away. So I called Gabe. I'm like, hey,
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: my name's Lou. Like I write for my school paper.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: I'd love to like be a correspondent. He's like, oh,
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: I can't pay you. I'm like, I don't care, Just
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: can you get me into the shows?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: You know? And I started.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: So I wrote for like probably like a year, just
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: doing like I go to the shows, I write a match,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: you know, but like in k Fabe, like it was like.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: No, it was all legit, like not hey did this spot.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: It was like you funk beat him to the side,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: and you know the uh Shane Tully Blanchard one hour draw,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: like I wrote about that and things like that.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: And then uh, then he needed a photographer. He's like,
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: I need somebody to do pictures. I'm like, I'm a photographer.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Are you really? Are you just trying to get okay,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: you're just trying to get a gig.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: No.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: I was like, I'll do whatever as long as you
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: like somebody will pay for the film. And then so
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: I did ringside pictures for a long time. In fact,
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: if you watch some of the eighty was it so
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: ninety early ninety five stuff. You will see me at ringside.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: It's taking pictung hair flannels, it's grunge air taking pictures.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: And I still have all the pictures.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's awesome.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: They're pretty sick, and in my mind, in my I've
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: always wanted to do like projects where I could put
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: those out and like, cause there's some really sick shots,
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: but I know everyone else has probably better ones. I
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: just see it from my own eyes, right, because there
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: was some It was something with them taking those pictures
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: that I learned more about the business and how guys
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: sell with their facial expressions. Looked like I was getting
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: smartened up big time.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you're in the best seat in the house
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: you can hear. I'm sure you heard a lot of stuff.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Though I heard a shot and.
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: It was like, I'm still am fascinated about calling spots
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: for some reasons, but I yeah, that's really how I
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: start like learning learning. And then I became friends with
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: Scottie with Raven and Stevie and they were going to
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: like an indie show and reading Pennsylvania, and Stevie called
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: me because I just want to ride up with us just.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: To like hang out.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: It was really he wanted me to drive Walke's and
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: cell phones off, so uh yeah. So I get to
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: his house, He's like, oh, yeah, can you drive him?
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: Like no, I can't, it's my mom's.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Car, Like I can't you think I do? Yeah?
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. But though then Raven's like, well see if
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: you just drive then, and he was like hot.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: But we drove up to reading Body Slams or Body Slammers,
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: Body Slams Arena, Damien Kaine's place and Scotty the whole way.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: Just talk to me and he's like, are you trained
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: or anything?
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like no. And then, uh, probably like two months later,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I was going to get my ringside photography going and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: someone came up to me and like, Raven needs to
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: see you right now.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: And usually that's like, oh, what did I do? Yeah,
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: and he just looked at me and he goes, congratulations,
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: you have graduated.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: You are now signed. Guy Dudley go to the CVS,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: get poster board and markers and come see me. And
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I'm like what And that's literally how it started. That's
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: it crazy. So you weren't even like no, no, you know,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: sweaty wheel trying to get the grease there. I was
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: just happy to like, Oh, I never ever had thought
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: of being in the ring, like ever crossed my mold.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Is there a potential for a Basle to be Brosky's
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: new manager?
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: It might be, it might be you never know.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: That's pretty great. And that was it and then you
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: never took photos of again your just talent.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Correct and what was And I also one thing I
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: missed that I was also doing the original Fancam stuff too.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Oh that was used.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: I'm the only cam quarter because I would like to
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: videotape wrestling, you know what I mean, just the house
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: shows and things like that.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I'd sneak it in. But what's funny about that night?
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: So I'm at they you know, I make my sign.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: It's like Dudley's rule, Dudley spelled wrong, all this kind
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: of stuff. They put me in the front row and
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: they're just like sit there all night, hold up signs
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: and they're all pro Dudley signs. They gave me I
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: found a tied eye or somebody gave me a tied
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: eye and no overalls yet. So I sat there and
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: then there's a match Dudley Dudley versus Tommy Dreamer, and
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: they go do their thing.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Tommy's up.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: Tommy rolls outside the ring kind of just to tell me, like,
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: screw off, I'm not smart to the business.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, fuck you, motherfucker, and he's like, you
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: can curse on here. Yeah. No, I don't think he
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: said that. The reason I mumbled is because I don't.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I said something and I got in his face a
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: little and he's just grabbed me and pulled me baby face.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: He's a baby face. He challenged his integrity.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: He's got to do something. So I was this was
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: a shoot.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: Now pulls me over the guardrail and he's picking me
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: up to put me in the ring, and I'm like,
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: what is going on? And he and he goes watch
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: the chair and he throws me in the ring and
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: I'm like okay. So I get in the ring and
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: like I look up and he has the chair so
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: crushes me with the chair and I was like at
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: that moment, I was like, wow, this is cool.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that hurt.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: And then he picks me up. Watch the d DT
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: yeah take it. And I'm like, and here's where we
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: used to in college like d d T each other
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: like because there were just college kids feeling done. So
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I knew how to take a d DT. So if
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: you ever see it, it's like when I got to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: the back first of all, like I'm smiling, they're they're
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I did adrenaline adrenaline rushy stretcher jobs the back. I'm like,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: oh my god, they put me up, and everyone's like,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: did you know that was happening. I was like, I
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: had no idea. And then Tommy came up to me.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: He said I had to do it.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Man, you got in my face and I'm like, He's like,
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: I'm a baby face And that's right when I learned
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: like that kind of stuff.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: But it was crazy, dude, And that's literally. And then
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I went to the wrestling school and house.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Hard eventually some proper trainer.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because they they when I was up there with
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Perry and Tasan or that do you want to be
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: a wrestler or you want to be a manager? I
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: was like, let's I initially said wrestler, and then someone
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: said you're already in the spot. Learn how to be
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: a manager, right, yeah, yeah, because you can go quicker,
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: and that's what I did.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: And then Dudley lineage, where are you give me the
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: So it was it was Dudley. It's hard to do
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: for people. It was Dudley Dudley. You're in a new career.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be Brosky's manager at Impact. Yeah, starting tonight.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: So that's an out though. You can get off the show.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Thanks. I helped the bike pick that up. Did you're great?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Thanks? Bye? Okay? Is yes, okay, I'm not easy to
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: die hard.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: I can't do this, So it's it originally started with
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Dudley Dudley. Who was who Jeff Bradley. Jeff Bradley was
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: a wrestler from Jampa. He was awesome, big Dick, and
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: then uh, little Snot. It was Anthony Michaels from Smoking
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: Mountain and.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Then podcast but we're trying to shoot.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Oh that was just a basket. We'll stop though. Hi,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Hi Tommy Dream Hey Tom.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I just told him about how you got me in
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the business.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Hi, Rhino. We've got a lot of run ins here.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Rhino's the double dish.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: And I can also fire you, which is not true.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: It's not even remotely not close. Anything can get me fired,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: I said, don't laugh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, So anyway, it
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: was Dudley Dudley, Little snot Big Dick. Those are the three.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: What about Dances with Dudley, He's coming coming. You were
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: before him, so you're you're next to I'm actually I'm next.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: So then sign guy comes in and the next night
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: Dances with Dudley starts, and then that was that was
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: the first crew and Dan.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Eventually Bubba who's Mongo Vile.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he takes a choke slam. From now on one right, dude.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: So it's so funny.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: It is like when I went to, like, as I
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: was trying to learn, I'd go to shows that are
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: around still living in Hartford, Connecticut, so anything around there.
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: I'd go to the like lou Rearing show in Deer
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: Park just to like watch and learn. And I was
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: there with Dreamer popped in and when he's like, why
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: are you here, I was like, I'm just literally just
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: checking this out. And he goes watch this guy he
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: takes a crazy choke slam and it was it was
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Bubba Primo was choke slamming him and I was like, wow,
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: that's awesome.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Wow, And that was Bubba A Dudley. It's eventually out came.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Mango Vile with a bullet.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, got the A C D c the whole thing.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: So yeah, so that was so then it was me
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: and it was me, Bubba, Chubby de von Gus oh many.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: That's why it's so hard to do.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: But then it started like you know, what happened now
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you know, knowing a lot more is like they start
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: not wanting to fly some guys in and all of
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: a sudden it just became it was me and dances
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: with Bubba, Devon and Spike, Big Dick occasionally dances with Dudley.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. He just never came back
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: and then not trained with him, but he would come
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: by our trains going we were like our first months
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and he would come by. Adolphin was alpha. That's it.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: It was very nice. Another story for a different day.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: But he got so mad. IM tell them now. But
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: it has nothing to do with figures.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: But just to transition back to the collectibles and stuff.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: So what are I know, like that's some things that
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: we've talked about, like you know in real life all
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: the time. What are some things from like your wrestling
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: career that you've held on to and collected and you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: you have a collection of my first shirt that I wore,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: a signed guy. I have a ton of my signs.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I have.
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: There was an angle we did a ninety eight with
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: Dreamer where he busted my knee and I would wear
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: Dudley like we hate dreams with Buela and stuff that
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: it was just because it was like a really good run.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: So I have all those. I have every like print
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: material like tickets.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: You have tickets, stuff passes and stuff.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: Right, I have the passes, but I also have like
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: the memos that used to be sent about crossing the border.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: And see that's the kind of stuff I like.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Like you just read and I have a contracts and
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: and things like that. If you're read now you're like,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: what what was going on?
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine what a freaking E c W contract
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: looks like.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I have a Yeah, I can show it to you.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: It's probably a major Beddies contact I have.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: When I did the angle with Billy Corgan the first
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: time he blasted guitar over my head, I have the
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: guitar like it's in pieces, but it's awesome.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah you did.
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: And uh, that's one thing it's like I'm never there's
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: those things. Is money can't buy kind of thing?
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: That's yes. I mean when we started, I'm sure, and
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you're they're like, don't be a mark for yourself, done
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: this and that. But I feel like what we do
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: is so unique and special and you should embrace it
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: and be proud of the things.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: And you know nothing wrong with that.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah a lot of times, and those like you can't
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: take pictures back then, That's why I take so many
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: pictures now, a little different era, for sure, get smacked if.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: You brought a lot camera. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy right now.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Okay, so thirty years later, almost you're gonna get your
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: first figure.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Hopefully we're all.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Rooting for Rush collectibles here to get right, because that
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: ECW toy line was awesome and there's so many guys
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: that it'd make yourself included. So it'll be cool for
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: me as a fan to get it. But I'm sure
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: even cooler for you to have your first figure.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah it was.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: That was cool for you guys. I believe you set
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: it up correct.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I nudged him.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I think somebody nudged them positive, which I appreciate. I
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: recently had, like a year and a half ago, a
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: fan just sent me one of me and I was like,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: what he just made it's pretty.
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: It was just awesome, and so I was like, this
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: is cool. Yeah, you know, and somebody just sent me
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: because I wasn't like that character. You Honestly, it's not
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: making money.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, no one's going to be like, oh I'm
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: about the sign guy Dudley Doll then, but it's a different.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: What's your term?
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: Hammerhead Star Wars figures like you need everybody, well you
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: just like you have lou Darthy, you need like the
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: fucking that fucking guy and this fucking guy. You need
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: all those guys you need you're building your fig fed,
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: you need all the characters. If you're playing, you need
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: the managers, you need.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: The guy I wish I have to take. Yes, I played,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I played with you guys. I'm a freshman high school
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: and that'll come out and I'm like, hi, So like
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: if I would have had you a ringside to help
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: my Bubba and Devon matches crap kidder what talent meeting?
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Talent talent meeting impact of three thirty spread the word
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: everyone's hearing the major major podcasts here, major players podcast.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: What's actually should look at see real quickly? Put like
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: two or three minutes. We asked some Uh, let's see
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: if they so you collect like cards now, trading cards?
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: That's your thing.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Hockey is probably hockey, say a big slap, Yes, say
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Let's ask a couple of questions and we'll let lou
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Go do his real job.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Jamie Silverberg is asking was that a shoot when Bubba
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: slammed you down and said you don't know what you're
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: doing once before a match? Uh? Yeah, no, No, it
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: wasn't a shoot.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: I don't even remember that, but well I do remember
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: one time he stiffed the hell out of me on
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: like he was supposed to slap me. We're like a
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: breakup with Dreamer or break like he had done an
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: angle Dreamer I felt as a work that was insulting.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: So Dudley boys beat me up and it was extremely painful.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Extremely It was in Queen's Tyler Lavelle, that's top shelf.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Troy is asking, what's your favorite Joel Gertner line ever?
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: The Silence behind the Violence, which is actually a great name,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: and what I recently.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Heard it in a nine inch nail song. I'm like,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's stolen.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: Oh, it's something like you sing silent and violent? Were
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: there and pre Signed Guy Dudley was before I.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Was in the business.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Woe. But yeah, we got the origins of sign Guy.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: That's here.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is something we didn't real touch on that
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I do love and I think it's underrated work Louis
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Dangerously when you transferred into Louis who came up with
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: that idea.
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: It was a very funny story when I was Signed
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: Guy because I had long hair and I wore hat.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: When I would be in the locker room, people from
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: behind people would come up to me and go, hey, Paul, Hey,
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: Paul Johnny ground shit it all the time, and I
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: would turn around and they'd be like, fuck, you're not Pauline.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: So then it was like well, and then Tommy and
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: I just kind of like, oh, you could be Louis
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: Dangerously and that.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: That's actually when I became a promoter after Sign Guy.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: So I had three months where I didn't do anything
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: in the ring, right, Tommy's like, we're gonna try out.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: I was like cool, because I'd never cut a promo.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: I had cut one a Sign Guy. Yeah, you're not
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: speaking all this time?
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: So it was the opening of the ECW Arena show
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: and yeah, in Philly was my tryout. The hardest spot
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: when you open when Joey over course and they bring
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: me out. But it was like I got the sign
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: guy and this socks change TNN era, right, isn't it?
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah yeah. We were the kings of hardcore TV.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I was never very rarely on TNA era that year. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: uh maybe one more? Were you ever? Chris Sullivan's asking
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: how we're ever super nervous after Bubba was cutting the
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: scandalous promos that he would do. I was nervous about
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: getting hurt.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: But I always I've answered that question a lot, actually,
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: But what I've always said it was like I'm in
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: the ring with the toughest guys in the business or
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: in the locker room. So some people may disagree with that,
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: but I was good.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I did get it attacked by a fan a couple
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: of times, which was which was in that era, was
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: kind of like that's great heat.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Now someone of those man look at that. It's the
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: nerve wracking some of that stuff.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, I just remember one night he went like
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: nutso and I'm like leaving and someone just grabs the
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: back of my hair and pulls.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Me down and that that was like, that's scary. Yeah,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Big Dick got him though. Anyway, all right, let's end
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: it with this, Daniel Brower, here's a good question, in
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: your opinion, what made so special compared to other promotions.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: We were the Nirvana of grunge and music. We just
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: went at it raw and there's no formats, and it
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: was pretty much like, you know, uncensored stuff that doesn't
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: follow anything that's currently happening in the business. But at
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: the same time that the locker room is really where
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: it sits. So I can say all those things about
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: grunge and Nirvana, but the guys there, it's they work
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: so hard, and they worked hard for like a reason,
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: and a lot of guys.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Left along the way.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, I think you had a team of
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: people really wanted to build a brand and really catching
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: a break. I mean, look at me, I was, I
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: was a photographer that became this public anybody. It was
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: a place for those guys to go that wasn't They
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: would speak to their strengths versus trying to be polished
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: somewhere else.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: And we're still talking about all these years later. So
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: certainly a special.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: That's where the Nirvana reference comes in, and I know
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: Nirvana is one of my favorite bands obviously, but at
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: the same time, when you look back on the years
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: and what they did for rock and roll and what
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: we did for wrestling, I mean, still get a ECW chance, right,
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: It's crazy.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Ryan will get them every night still.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: And if you told me that, Dan, I'd be like,
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: what yeah, right, So I could probably elaborate the Holy
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: ECW conversation with you, but yeah, we can do this
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: again for sure.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Lou Passion and thank you. You are the man.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you doing this. We love having you here.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: An impact of school to reconnect after if you have
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: known you've known each other a really long time. Yeah,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: those are stories, right, no time, all right, thank you,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Thanks guys.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: All right, we got some new tag team champions the
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: major wrestling figure.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Podcasts and whatnot, The Ultimate Tag Team. I'm loving it.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: It's like Instagram live meets eBay. It's uh, it's the
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: next big thing. And I'm not talking about Brock Listener. Definitely.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: We will actually be on there every week six thirty
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: pm on Monday's Eastern and we're gonna be doing live
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: auctions from things in our personal collection from things that
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: we are finding in the wild anything you want, I
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: mean crazy.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Rare, rare wrestling collectibles, rare collectibles from other genres, ring
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: worn gear from our careers, what.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: Other what other seller or whatnot has ring worn sweaty
• 39:15
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• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Exactly, But obviously wrestling figures, lots and lots of wrestling figures.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Another bar. I don't forget my original funk Go Purge.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I'm tiny.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: How many would you say?
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: You have? Five hundred most of thousands to get on
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: thousand every week every week. And here's what you do, guys.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Whatnot is an app. You download the app on your phones,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: You look around, you search for Major wf pod, You
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: follow us there, and then you follow the action figure
• 39:53
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• 39:56
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• 39:57
  Speaker 3: So that's all you got to do.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Follow along, join in on our auctions, look at other auctions.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, dude, you'll get into it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: I sometimes I'm just up plating my bed, just looking
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: to see what's on and what's going on because it's
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: so so much fun and you can become a seller,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: sell your own stuff.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the next big thing, So get in it.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Now