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Mix 106.3's Real Estate Show - 31/10/26 · The Real Estate Show

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  Speaker 1: Cam and Renee's real estate show on Mix 106.3. Step
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  Speaker 1: into stylish, low-maintenance living in Canberra's inner north. Zerberg by
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  Speaker 1: JW Land.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Saturday morning just gone, thanks to JW Land, Renee
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  Speaker 2: and I were at the Red Shed at Black Mountain
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  Speaker 2: Peninsula for the massive event, a big rowing festival. It
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  Speaker 2: is the Golden Ore. John Gasson came along and spoke
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  Speaker 2: about the architectural concepts behind Canberra's Red Shed, and it
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  Speaker 2: is amazing. so much more than just a boat shed
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  Speaker 2: down by the lake. It's a really interesting discussion. Anna
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  Speaker 2: Nilagama also joined us, of course, CEO of the Master
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  Speaker 2: Builders ACT, to tell us about the Canberra House Pattern Book,
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  Speaker 2: what that actually is and what it's hoping to achieve.
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  Speaker 2: And Ben Potter, Director of Daylight Artistry, helped us to
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  Speaker 2: understand the importance of ventilation in a property. And once again,
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  Speaker 2: as you'd imagine, there's a whole much more to it
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  Speaker 2: than just saying the ventilation of a property. So that's
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  Speaker 2: the Mix 106.3 Real Estate Show. Before we get to that,
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  Speaker 2: let's do this.
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  Speaker 3: Mix 106.3's Property Tip of the Week, brought to you
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  Speaker 3: by Lister.
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  Speaker 4: Before choosing an auction, ask yourself one question. Will this
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  Speaker 4: process encourage more buyers to compete or fewer? This tip
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  Speaker 4: was brought to you by Lister. John Gasson, our president
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  Speaker 4: of the Red Shed.
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  Speaker 5: Now, John, we want to talk about this fantastic building
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  Speaker 5: because it's really unique and it's really special. And for
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  Speaker 5: anyone who hasn't been here to the Red Shed, can
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  Speaker 5: you describe the building a bit and sort of what
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  Speaker 5: we have here?
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  Speaker 3: The inspiration here, the inspiration really came from The old shed,
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  Speaker 3: we boated from a Nissan hut down in Kingston Harbour
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  Speaker 3: back in the 60s and 70s. And I was rowing
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  Speaker 3: with a guy, David Cook, from AMC Architecture about 15
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  Speaker 3: years ago when we sort of came up with this
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  Speaker 3: concept about building a new facility.
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  Speaker 4: And you'll see a lot of the.
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  Speaker 3: Elements of that old Nissan hut in this building. The
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  Speaker 3: curved roof is an interpretation of the real curve on
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  Speaker 3: the Nissan hut.
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  Speaker 4: We've called it Red Shed because.
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  Speaker 3: There used to be a red door down at an
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  Speaker 3: old rusty red door down at the Red Shed, rusty
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  Speaker 3: roof and red door. So that's why the name Red
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  Speaker 3: Shed is here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And tell us about the design and some of the
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  Speaker 2: architectural elements of the structure because there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: thought being put into this, hasn't there? Yeah, there is, Cam.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I've been really fortunate.
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  Speaker 3: One of my major mentors was Terry Snow, a guy
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  Speaker 3: that just inspired excellence in everything he did. And he drove.
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  Speaker 4: Me, I met.
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  Speaker 3: Him when I was 21, and literally he really inspired
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  Speaker 3: me to understand what excellence was all about and how
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  Speaker 3: it lifts everybody that comes into it. So excellence in architecture.
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  Speaker 3: We live in a city here that was designed, this
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  Speaker 3: beautiful lake designed like over 100 years ago, and what
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  Speaker 3: an amazing facility it is that Walter and Marion Mahoney
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  Speaker 3: Griffin created.
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  Speaker 4: It's inspiring.
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  Speaker 3: And the building here hopefully takes some of those lessons
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  Speaker 3: that we've learned from this excellence in design through architecture Terry, really,
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  Speaker 3: and Stephen, and I've hopefully delivered that here.
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  Speaker 2: I think you've delivered it in spades, right? And it's
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  Speaker 2: very practical as well, all right? So we've got the
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  Speaker 2: boat shed element downstairs, so that's all the storage facility. Upstairs,
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  Speaker 2: you've got this most amazing event space. You've got a
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  Speaker 2: beautiful cafe, and then the gym out the front, which
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  Speaker 2: sort of... The first thing when you walk is the
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  Speaker 2: gym on the right-hand side, and you go... I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to the cafe.
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  Speaker 4: To get a muffin. Yeah, and I'm walking past all
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  Speaker 4: these people working out.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got to walk in the door, you two.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you don't fit enough. You don't need to be.
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  Speaker 3: Next time you're looking for a gym, come down here.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, looking out those full-height windows right into the casuarinas,
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  Speaker 3: it's just a stunning sort of outlook and it inspires
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  Speaker 3: you to.
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  Speaker 4: work hard. Yeah, 100%.
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  Speaker 5: And are there some sustainability aspects of the red.
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  Speaker 4: Shade as well?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. There's 100 kilowatts of solar on this roof.
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  Speaker 3: So we're pretty well off grid for summer. We drop
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  Speaker 3: into using grid power for three or four.
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  Speaker 4: Months of winter.
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  Speaker 3: But we're just about to install some batteries that'll hopefully
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  Speaker 3: sort that issue out for us.
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  Speaker 2: And so when people look at the building, what do
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  Speaker 2: you hope that they see?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think it fits well in the landscape.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's got these sort of natural tones, the
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  Speaker 3: beautiful sort of, you know, red anodized wall is just stunning.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody comments on it.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, hopefully it just sits nicely in the architecture.
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  Speaker 5: And what I love about the building is not just
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  Speaker 5: the rowing element, but the fact that anyone can come here,
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  Speaker 5: have lunch or whatever and enjoy the cafe. I said
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  Speaker 5: to my parents when I came out here, I went
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  Speaker 5: back and spoke to them and I said, oh, mum, I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Going to take you and dad to lunch at the
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  Speaker 4: Red Shed.
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  Speaker 5: And she said, oh, we were there the other day
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  Speaker 5: with the in-laws, some of my sister-in-law's parents.
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  Speaker 4: So they've been here. They're all over it.
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  Speaker 5: But I love that people can just come here and
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  Speaker 5: enjoy the space as well, as well as the rowing
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  Speaker 5: element of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing since we've been here how many people come.
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  Speaker 3: come in the door, have lived in Canberra their whole
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  Speaker 3: life and have never been to Black Mountain Peninsula.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And what was funny is when we were here the
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  Speaker 5: other day, Cam, when Cam and I were walking around
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  Speaker 5: after we had our meeting, we saw about three or
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  Speaker 5: four people as we're walking out that we knew from
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  Speaker 5: different connections. Like there's people coming from everywhere and, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you see familiar faces and it's just really lovely from.
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  Speaker 4: That point of view.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: All right, mate, well done.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations on not just the event. We'll speak more about
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  Speaker 2: the event. Of course, we're here through until 11, but
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  Speaker 2: about the structure and what you're giving back and how
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  Speaker 2: you're giving to the community. And like you say, rowing
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  Speaker 2: for all. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, guys.
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  Speaker 5: We heard through the webcam about a national design competition.
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  Speaker 5: to produce the Canberra House Patent Book that was announced. Now,
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  Speaker 5: this is all towards, you know, making steps towards missing
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  Speaker 5: middle housing in.
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  Speaker 4: Canberra and making that a reality. Yeah. So let's find
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  Speaker 4: out about this book.
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  Speaker 5: This House Patent Book, and what it is and say
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  Speaker 5: good morning to Anna Nilagama, CEO of Master Builders ACT.
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  Speaker 4: Anna, good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, guys.
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  Speaker 4: Wish I was where you were.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, we're very lucky to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, make no mistake, it's incredible.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, we're looking over to the water on this balcony.
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  Speaker 4: It's lovely.
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  Speaker 5: And look, for those who haven't heard about the Canberra
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  Speaker 5: House Pattern Book, what is it?
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  Speaker 6: So it's actually a competition that we've opened to architects
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  Speaker 6: and designers to actually populate the.
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  Speaker 7: Pattern book, which means, you know, our creative designers will
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  Speaker 7: submit ideas for missing.
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  Speaker 6: Middle housing concepts. That'll be selected by a panel of judges,
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  Speaker 6: and that will actually go into a patent book that
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  Speaker 6: Canberrans can buy affordably if they want to do a
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  Speaker 6: missing middle development. Or, for example, if a builder would
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  Speaker 6: like to do that.
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  Speaker 1: So it's all about high-quality.
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  Speaker 7: Design, but making it affordable and accessible in this day
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  Speaker 7: and age. And they've done something.
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  Speaker 6: Similar recently in New South Wales, and they've actually started
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  Speaker 6: to build these patent book designs.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, nice. And so let's take it back just a step.
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  Speaker 2: So we say the term missing middle. We hear about
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  Speaker 2: it all the time. For anyone who doesn't understand that concept,
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  Speaker 2: just give us a brief overview of what the missing
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  Speaker 2: middle is.
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  Speaker 7: Missing middle is middle density, but in real terms, that
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  Speaker 7: means any sort of older existing established suburbs. It's about
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  Speaker 7: putting a few more houses on vacant blocks or perhaps
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  Speaker 7: if there's two sort of gubbies and that block's amalgamated.
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  Speaker 6: You put four town gubbies on that.
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  Speaker 7: So it's about better using the suburbs we've already got,
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  Speaker 7: which with existing internet connections, water connections, power connections, it
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  Speaker 7: makes a lot of sense it's actually a lot more
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  Speaker 7: affordable to build.
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  Speaker 6: In the middle than elsewhere like the traditional greenfield.
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  Speaker 5: Site sure yep gotcha and so why is this book
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  Speaker 5: and this competition so important and what's the main thing
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  Speaker 5: that you hope sort of comes from.
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  Speaker 7: It I just hope we get some great designs because
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  Speaker 7: the intent was always that the pattern book would have,
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  Speaker 7: because it's all preset designs, there would be an exemption pathway,
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  Speaker 7: a planning exemption pathway.
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  Speaker 4: So you could build really quickly. You're cutting out the
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  Speaker 4: design process.
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  Speaker 6: You're cutting out the planning process.
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  Speaker 7: And you can get these high-quality, well-designed architectural homes in
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  Speaker 7: great suburbs.
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  Speaker 6: The type of suburbs that are established and close to
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  Speaker 6: everything that you want to be around.
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  Speaker 4: So it's very exciting.
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  Speaker 6: And there's actually also a student category, which I thought
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  Speaker 6: was very cool.
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  Speaker 2: So there'll be.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, student winners, they can.
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  Speaker 6: Bid for a little bit of prize money, I believe.
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  Speaker 7: But imagine being an architectural student and actually having one
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  Speaker 7: of your homes.
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  Speaker 6: At the start of your career get into this patent book.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very cool.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's really cool. All right, Anna, well, that's excellent.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for sharing all the details of
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  Speaker 4: that with us this morning and have a great weekend.
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  Speaker 7: You too.
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  Speaker 1: Enjoy.
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  Speaker 2: Enjoy.
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  Speaker 5: Cheers, Anna Nilagama, who's CEO of Master Builders ACT. We're
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  Speaker 5: asking a few questions about property ventilation.
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  Speaker 2: Now, this is something, as I said, we have 10
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  Speaker 2: years of doing this show.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: It's a first.
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  Speaker 2: We've never spoken about ventilation, and this is one of
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  Speaker 2: the things that I love about doing this show.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: There's all these things that you would never think is
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  Speaker 2: going to be a thing, but this is really important.
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  Speaker 1: Totally.
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  Speaker 5: And even with the winter just gone, my partner and
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  Speaker 5: I at our house had conversations around, you know, there's
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  Speaker 5: certain parts of our house that aren't great, don't have
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  Speaker 5: great ventilation.
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  Speaker 4: So we were having to talk about different options there.
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  Speaker 4: And it's a thing for everyone.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's the idea of you don't want to ventilate.
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  Speaker 2: You want to create like the envelope to keep your
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  Speaker 2: house either cool or hot.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely. So there's lots to this.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to say good morning to Ben Potter, Director
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  Speaker 5: at Daylight Artistry.
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  Speaker 4: Ben, good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning.
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  Speaker 4: Now, look, Ben, when you say, yes, welcome back. We'd
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  Speaker 4: love having you on.
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  Speaker 5: When you say the ventilation of a property, exactly what
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  Speaker 5: does that mean?
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  Speaker 4: So I'm sure most of the missioners have seen those
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  Speaker 4: wind turbines that bring things up on top of your
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  Speaker 4: roof line.
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  Speaker 1: So what that's trying to do.
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  Speaker 6: Is, although not very well, it's trying to extract.
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  Speaker 1: Heat from up in the roof cavity. It's just trying
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  Speaker 1: to pull out all the heat, build up the moisture,
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  Speaker 1: that's everything that builds up in that roof cavity.
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  Speaker 4: Right, okay.
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  Speaker 2: And so when we talk about ventilation then, you're trying
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  Speaker 2: to take that out of the roof cavity. What does
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  Speaker 2: that do exactly to the rest of the property?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, so getting rid of that small mass above your head,
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  Speaker 6: it really makes the house a lot cooler in summer.
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  Speaker 6: And in winter, when you've got your tactic on in.
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  Speaker 5: The bathroom and you're extracting the hot steam up into
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  Speaker 5: the roof, without the ventilation on the roof.
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  Speaker 4: Though, it gets rid of all that moisture.
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  Speaker 6: So you're not building up condensation, you don't have mould.
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  Speaker 6: And we also have ventilation products that run from inside
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  Speaker 6: the house that will ventilate to the atmosphere, unlike the
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  Speaker 6: standard tactics.
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  Speaker 2: And so, like you said at the beginning, every house
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  Speaker 2: has got one of those sort of little fan thingies
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  Speaker 2: that you see at the top. And a lot of
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  Speaker 2: them look very old school. I would imagine there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot more technology, a lot more technology in the 2026
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  Speaker 2: version as opposed to the 1971 version.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: So, the changes to the NCC, so.
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  Speaker 3: The National Construction Code in 2023.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: To state that every new home build should have roof ventilation.
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  Speaker 1: But those worldly buildings you see, you can only have
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  Speaker 1: one of those for 50 square metres of roof cavity.
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  Speaker 6: Where our new product, Solar Star, you can have one
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  Speaker 6: of those for every 200 square metres. So they're a
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  Speaker 6: much better product.
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  Speaker 1: They're solar powered, so driven by a motor.
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  Speaker 6: They've got a climate sensor on them, which monitors the
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  Speaker 6: roof temperature, humidity, moisture, and.
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  Speaker 1: Pulls it all out of the roof.
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  Speaker 7: So your roof is in a lot better.
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  Speaker 1: Condition all of the time, and a lot cooler in summer,
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  Speaker 1: and no condensation in winter, which is really important.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And so just like we are here sitting, we're quite
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  Speaker 2: sort of surprised that this is, there's so much sort
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  Speaker 2: of technology into it. Is that the sort of typical
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  Speaker 2: conversation that you have with people? They don't sort of
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  Speaker 2: really understand it's a thing until you explain it like
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  Speaker 2: you've just have. And then it's sort of like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: of course, like, why aren't we thinking of this as
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  Speaker 2: one of the major things?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Like, every single house should have some form
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  Speaker 1: of insulation, especially from the roof cavity.
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  Speaker 6: It's so important.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, to be.
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  Speaker 2: Part of the National Construction Code now, to be compulsory,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that says a lot in itself.
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  Speaker 6: And our customers that put the Solar Star product.
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  Speaker 4: On their roof, like, they just love them.
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  Speaker 1: They give us, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Great reviews from it. They said that their house is
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  Speaker 6: so much cooler in summer. I'm just a much more
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  Speaker 6: comfortable place to be.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, 100%.
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  Speaker 5: And like you say, it's so important to have those conversations.
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  Speaker 5: The condensation in the bathroom that you said is what
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  Speaker 5: I was referring to when I say at home, we're like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: what are we going to do about this? Just very quickly, Ben,
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  Speaker 5: where can people go to learn a bit more about it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: Well, a good opportunity for people to learn about it
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  Speaker 5: because it is an important issue. Thank you so much
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  Speaker 5: for your time, Ben.
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  Speaker 1: No problem.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Cheers. Ben Potter from Daylight Artistry there, Cam.
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