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Claire Holt's Late-Night Panic Google · Wellness, Actually with Emily Oster & Perry Wilson, MD

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  Speaker 1: This is parent Data. I'm Emily Oster. We've all been there.
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  Speaker 1: This thing that's happening that's never happened before. You're trying
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  Speaker 1: not to panic, but come on, it's late. You're alone,
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  Speaker 1: or at least you're the only adult. It's just you
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  Speaker 1: and Google, and it feels like you're the only person
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  Speaker 1: who was ever worried about this, except when you type
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  Speaker 1: it into Google, it auto feels because, despite the evidence
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  Speaker 1: of the contrary, you are not the only person this
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  Speaker 1: has ever happened to. We just don't talk about the
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  Speaker 1: little things that freak us out in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the night. But ask any parent, just being a parent
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  Speaker 1: is waiting through an endless number of random questions you
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  Speaker 1: never expected to Google. And in this new series from
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  Speaker 1: parent Data, we're bringing on some special guests to talk
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  Speaker 1: about them. Will he grow out of croup? Does this
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  Speaker 1: mean he is prone to be asthmatic? Like I got
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  Speaker 1: fixated on this. I sort of thought like my choice
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  Speaker 1: and baby wives was going to determine, you know, her
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  Speaker 1: long term life success? Does anything matter at all? Welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Late Night Panic Google Today. Actress Claireholt.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, I am Claireholt, actress, mother of three. I want
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  Speaker 2: to be professional marathon runner like you.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, just like me. That is. We share so many
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  Speaker 1: things except not. But the one thing we do share
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  Speaker 1: is that our both of us think that we are
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  Speaker 1: going to be professional marathoners exactly. Yes, how is your
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  Speaker 1: quest going? My quest is going, Subpa.
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  Speaker 2: I ran five miles this morning in thought I was
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  Speaker 2: going to die, so I have a very long way
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  Speaker 2: to go, but you know I.
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  Speaker 1: Wanna get there. Yeah, No, we're all gonna We're all
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  Speaker 1: gonna get there. You know. I ran the other day
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  Speaker 1: an actual professional marathon runner, and I got to say, Claire,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna get there. That was what
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  Speaker 1: I thought. It was like her recovery run after the
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  Speaker 1: Olympic trials, and I was like, I'm gonna die, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to Like She's like, well, just this is
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  Speaker 1: the easiest thing, you know. It's like she's not even breathing,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, let's slow down.
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  Speaker 2: I know, listen, wish for thinking. It's fine, We'll see
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  Speaker 2: I've got a few years left in the tank.
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  Speaker 1: So totally okay. And so you have three kids. Tell
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  Speaker 1: me about your kids.
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  Speaker 2: James is almost five, as he will tell everybody, don't
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  Speaker 2: ever call him four he's almost five.
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  Speaker 1: L is three and my.
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  Speaker 2: New baby Ford is almost four months and he's adorable.
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  Speaker 1: We get to see him.
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  Speaker 2: He was great, He's delish.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So this series is called uh late night Panic Google,
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  Speaker 1: and the goal of this series is for people to
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  Speaker 1: just come on and set what is your current late
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  Speaker 1: night panic Google? And then we're going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: is their data and how could the data maybe make
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  Speaker 1: you feel better about it? So? What is your current
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  Speaker 1: late night panic Google?
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  Speaker 2: So I have a lot, but I'll just narrow it
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  Speaker 2: down to one single late night panic Google. I want
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  Speaker 2: to know about nightmares night terrors?
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  Speaker 1: What's the difference?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: What can you do about it? What are you supposed
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  Speaker 1: to do?
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  Speaker 2: Because my son James is prone to them and I
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  Speaker 2: sort of just I want to know when will they
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  Speaker 2: grow out of them?
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  Speaker 1: What do you do about them?
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  Speaker 2: Because then they're stressful?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So night nightmares and night terrors are totally different.
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  Speaker 1: So what is Tell me what is happening?
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  Speaker 2: So I think the nightmare is because he'll wake up,
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  Speaker 2: he'll sit up in bed, He'll he'll cry, he he
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  Speaker 2: sometimes he just sits there for like a long period
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  Speaker 2: of time. He can't settle. A lot of the time.
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  Speaker 2: If I go into him, he seems I can't really
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  Speaker 2: tell if he is with it or not, which I
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  Speaker 2: know what the difference between nightmares and night terrors is.
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  Speaker 2: Are they awake, are they with it? Are they scared?
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  Speaker 2: But they can be settled or not. I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 2: they just nightmares. And most of the time if I
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  Speaker 2: just sit and watch, he'll put himself back down and
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  Speaker 2: like go back to sleep.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just hard to know. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: the protocol is for either. Yeah, Okay, So so night
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  Speaker 1: terror is I think much scarier for parents because it
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  Speaker 1: is the thing that happens where your kid will just
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  Speaker 1: like basically sit up in the middle of the night,
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  Speaker 1: usually in like the first half, and they'll just be
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  Speaker 1: they can just be screaming, like when this is what
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  Speaker 1: happened with my kids, They're just like it's like they're
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  Speaker 1: being eaten by a bear, you know, just like hysterically screaming.
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  Speaker 1: And then you'll go in and be like, hey, what's wrong,
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  Speaker 1: And it can almost just be like they don't even
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  Speaker 1: see you, right, And that is because they don't see you,
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  Speaker 1: because a night terror is a thing where they're asleep,
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  Speaker 1: it's like they get roused from the deepest part of
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  Speaker 1: sleep and they're still effectively asleep. So it's like sleepwalking
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  Speaker 1: or something sleep talking, like things that where you're totally
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  Speaker 1: asleep and yet you're like in your brain, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what you think is happening, but like you, unless
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  Speaker 1: you you it's basically very hard to wake them up
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  Speaker 1: and make them feel.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and they can put themselves back down, and.
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  Speaker 1: Then eventually they just go back down and they will
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  Speaker 1: never remember in the morning. If you're like, remember last
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  Speaker 1: night when you were like screaming hysterically for twenty five minutes,
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  Speaker 1: like you're being eaten by a bear, and they'd be like, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember. Sounds very dramatic. And even if that
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  Speaker 1: didn't happen, he would say, yes, it did. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he's sympathy. If only you had stayed longer, Mom, I
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  Speaker 1: felt aband That's why I was doing it exactly. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I can go to school today, is
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  Speaker 1: the other thought of it. I might be sick.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't okay, So then I guess they more likely
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  Speaker 2: to be night terrors, because it's pretty infrequent that he
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  Speaker 2: will come in and say I had a nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if they come in and say they have a nightmare,
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  Speaker 1: that's a nightmare, this thing where they wake up and
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  Speaker 1: they like you either they're screaming mom and you come
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  Speaker 1: in and they're like, I had this terrible dream, or
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  Speaker 1: they walk into your room and they're like, I had
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  Speaker 1: this terrible dream. That's a nightmare. That's like you comfort them,
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  Speaker 1: and you comfort them and then they're like you're like,
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  Speaker 1: there's no monsters and then they go back to sleep.
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  Speaker 1: That's a nightmare. That's like you're that's a different part
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  Speaker 1: of sleep where when they end it, they wake up
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  Speaker 1: and then they're awake and they understand it's different from that,
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  Speaker 1: like that was something that happened before and it's not real,
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  Speaker 1: and like when do they grow out of it? Well,
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  Speaker 1: so nightmares nobody grew night terrors. Though night terrors they
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  Speaker 1: they will typically grow out of in later adolescens, although
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  Speaker 1: you can and these are most common for younger so
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  Speaker 1: you're getting to actually towards the end of where it
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  Speaker 1: would be most common. Although kids who have these are
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  Speaker 1: then more prone to like sleepwalking, and they can be
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  Speaker 1: harder to potty train at night because it's sometimes a
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  Speaker 1: sort of deeper sleep aspect of this, So you might
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  Speaker 1: see some of those later, but you're kind of at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the of the most common night terror part. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I think the thing that's good about the night terrors.
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  Speaker 1: I think what I think is good is that they
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  Speaker 1: they aren't behavioral. So one of the issues of nightmares
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  Speaker 1: is like when they have a nightmare and then they
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  Speaker 1: get up and they come in and you're like, oh everything,
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  Speaker 1: like one, do you want to sleep in my bed?
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  Speaker 1: Like let me come and snuggle you whatever, Then that
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  Speaker 1: can that can create a habit where sometimes then they'll
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  Speaker 1: come in and just be like, I had a nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: It's terrible things are happening. It was just I was abandoned.
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  Speaker 1: There was some type of it's because of this book
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  Speaker 1: I read. Particularly if you have like a very verbal,
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  Speaker 1: like a kid who's right smart, Yeah, you'll just like
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  Speaker 1: and night terrors aren't like that because they're not doing
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  Speaker 1: it on purpose. But nightmares can very easily. Some of
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  Speaker 1: these sleep books will tell you like if they're if
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  Speaker 1: they're like calmly coming in and they're obviously fine and
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  Speaker 1: they're explaining in great detail what happened, that is not
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  Speaker 1: a nightmare that is being very clever, and that's just
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  Speaker 1: IQ and the snuggles. So yeah, it would be you
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  Speaker 1: have to be careful. But and there's no there's no.
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  Speaker 2: Like data that talks about which kids more prone to
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  Speaker 2: them or it's just random it.
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  Speaker 1: So it has to do with how deeply you're sleeping,
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  Speaker 1: and some kids sleep deeper than others. That's why it
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  Speaker 1: relates to these like sleepwalking. And it will happen more
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  Speaker 1: when kids are like not feeling great, because it's it's
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  Speaker 1: often like they're they're deeply asleep and it's something rouses
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  Speaker 1: them out of it. Uh, and that's when they sort
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  Speaker 1: of go directly from like deep sleep into something that
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  Speaker 1: is like more awake and that so that can happen
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  Speaker 1: more likely when you're when you're sick. But it's there's
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  Speaker 1: not some like everything. It's like genetic. Probably it's your
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  Speaker 1: husband's fault. It definitely ask him if it's all right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's it.
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  Speaker 2: That's that was my panic.
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  Speaker 1: You sold my worries, that's your panic, Coogle. But it's
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  Speaker 1: like the thing is also just to be clear, there's
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  Speaker 1: something you can do, so you could go in and
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  Speaker 1: sit there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess like, I'm not a bad parent if
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  Speaker 2: I let If he's waking up screaming and then he
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  Speaker 2: goes back down himself, there's nothing.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing you can do. He doesn't know if you're there,
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  Speaker 1: you're not there, Like you just like put a pillow.
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  Speaker 1: You could just put a pillow on your head and
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  Speaker 1: try to drown it out. Great.
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  Speaker 2: I think your next your next series should be am
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  Speaker 2: I a bad parent?
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  Speaker 1: Because that's what my boils down.
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  Speaker 2: There's really is what I'm doing in response to this
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  Speaker 2: thing that I'm panic going.
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  Speaker 1: Am I a bad parent for doing that? Because that's
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  Speaker 1: like the first thing we're panic going? Am I a
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  Speaker 1: bad parent for this? Yes, that's all right, we'll consider
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  Speaker 1: we'll consider that modification. Thanks Claire, Thank you, ready to
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  Speaker 1: talk to you.
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  Speaker 2: You took every time I'm pregnant, I dream my husband
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  Speaker 2: cheats something every time.
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  Speaker 1: I mainly I don't have nightmares. I mainly have stress dreams.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you do like like exam papers about missing airplanes? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Missing airplanes? One hundred percent of the time, I'm missing
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  Speaker 1: an airplane in my dreams. And that's why my children
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  Speaker 1: have to arrive at the airport five hours before all flights,
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  Speaker 1: so we make sure that doesn't happen.