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#2169 When You Know Better You Do Better - Katrina Umback · The You Project

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  Speaker 1: I get a chance. It's Harps.
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  Speaker 2: It's bloody harps. It's Monday, it's first day of the week.
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  Speaker 2: It's twelve oh five as I look at my clock,
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  Speaker 2: which I shouldn't do. Tiffany and Cook Katrina Wilma umback.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what a real meddal name is, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go with that. Tiffany and Cook is
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  Speaker 2: over there in the thriving metropolis of I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: elston Wick, maybe Ellwood, Elwood, Ellwood starts with a knee,
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  Speaker 2: could have been a chooker.
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  Speaker 1: I got second guess.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty good in a decade.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen you for a few days. Have you
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  Speaker 2: gone subterranean with your bloke? What's going on?
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  Speaker 4: Look?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, look he hit me all the way out and
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  Speaker 5: bendygo this weekend having a delicious dinner with some of
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  Speaker 5: his mates. Everyone in his world can cook like a
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  Speaker 5: five star chef. It's amazing. Oh not complaining.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not the sex, it's the food, which if
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  Speaker 2: you had to like, if we're divvying it up into
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  Speaker 2: one hundred percent, what's the percentages?
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  Speaker 3: A little bit of col ma, a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: colin Bee Harps.
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  Speaker 1: Right right, Columae being.
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  Speaker 3: Stop.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it there.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't ask a Trena or anything like that because
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  Speaker 2: she's a lady. We'll get to Katrina at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: Why were you and Bendigo.
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  Speaker 5: He's got some very good friends in Bendigo and they
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  Speaker 5: have a yearly I think it's called Lamb Baby where
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  Speaker 5: Dale cooks up the most amazing lamb dish and they
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  Speaker 5: have a bunch of friends over and yeah, I went.
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  Speaker 3: I went for the lamb and the cake.
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  Speaker 5: Bask baked chocolate cheesecake was what Scotti brought to the table.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. S, that's that's quite the addition. Yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: well you enjoy both the food and the other things.
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  Speaker 1: Trena run back. I wouldn't ask you anything like that
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  Speaker 1: because you're a lady. You're from the.
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  Speaker 2: Country, You're a little bit slow, and I don't want
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  Speaker 2: it to go over your head. So see what I
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  Speaker 2: did there? Everybody I know Katrina, we're friends.
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  Speaker 1: I'm fucking kidding. She's sharp as attack.
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  Speaker 2: And she's am I already.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, what do you hear this?
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  Speaker 2: You're going to go tell your friends about the podcast
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  Speaker 2: before I even opened my god, guess what he said?
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  Speaker 1: How are you how are you.
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  Speaker 4: Ah, my mouth is wide open. I'm good smack, but
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  Speaker 4: thank you for that introduction, Wilma. And I'm slow because
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  Speaker 4: I'm from the country.
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  Speaker 1: Nice, that's okay, it's all right. We love slow country people.
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  Speaker 1: I am one. I grew up in Mwey and morewell
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  Speaker 1: than to realgan.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that's okay then, friend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. What's the what's the weather in Mildura today,
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  Speaker 1: the thriving metropolis.
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  Speaker 4: Always we have like three hundred days of sunshine, more
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  Speaker 4: than the sunny coast. It's beautiful and sunny. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's why our campaign is tropical Northwest Victoria. It's probably good.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a real stat like three hundred days.
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  Speaker 4: Well that's what the tourism people say here, so of
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  Speaker 4: course it's true.
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  Speaker 1: It must be true. It must be true. Now you're
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  Speaker 1: doing you're working on a thing, which is the very
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  Speaker 1: important thing. We're going to get to that later. But
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  Speaker 1: you and I have spent a little bit of time together.
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  Speaker 2: We've spoken a bit, We've not hung out a lot,
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  Speaker 2: but I came up to the Thriving Metropolis last year
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  Speaker 2: and I did a day with wonderful Joe and his team,
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  Speaker 2: and you were there which was a nice surprise, and
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  Speaker 2: you introduced me and unlike me, you said nice things.
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  Speaker 2: So so thanks for.
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  Speaker 4: That my pleasure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you did a great job. How long have
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  Speaker 1: you been.
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  Speaker 2: Flirting with is not the right word, but my content,
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  Speaker 2: watching my stuff or listening to my stuff or reading
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  Speaker 2: my stuff?
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  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I reckon since about twenty fourteen. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I've been you know, I started out with the whiteboard
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  Speaker 4: posts on old Instagram. It was in fitness. So I
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  Speaker 4: really resonated with a lot of the content that you shared,
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  Speaker 4: and my husband thought that it might be a good
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  Speaker 4: idea for me to go to one or two of
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  Speaker 4: your workshops to developed myself. Wow, I did that. And
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  Speaker 4: when you started your podcast, I think I did listen
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  Speaker 4: to a lot of your first one hundred episodes of
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  Speaker 4: the You The New Project. Yeah, so I've been around
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  Speaker 4: for a bit. Is that stalker level?
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  Speaker 1: No, not stalk a level tip in the old time
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  Speaker 1: great number one. She's transitioned.
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  Speaker 5: I never actually stumbled across Katrina in the Bamboo, which
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  Speaker 5: I was if she ever met.
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  Speaker 2: She started off as number one store and she's now
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  Speaker 2: risen a fucking CEO and I have to wash her car.
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  Speaker 2: So fuck that's been that's been quite the elevation for her,
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  Speaker 2: quite the quite their career dive for me.
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  Speaker 1: But look, she's happy and that's the main thing. Do
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  Speaker 1: you know what?
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  Speaker 2: It's not very often, like you said, your husband sent
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  Speaker 2: you along. There's been a lot of husbands over the
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  Speaker 2: years who have not liked Craig Harper because their women,
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  Speaker 2: their women, their wives or their partners, well their women
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  Speaker 2: aren't they not in that sense, not in an ownership sense,
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  Speaker 2: but their ladies, their better halves, would come home and
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  Speaker 2: quote me, and then that would annoy the fuck out
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  Speaker 2: of the husbands. So I had quite a I've had
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  Speaker 2: this more than ten times, but I remember one very
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  Speaker 2: vivid conversation where this lady that I used to train
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  Speaker 2: her and also she used to come some of my things.
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  Speaker 2: She goes, I can't tell you how much my husband
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  Speaker 2: hates you. Oh, I go, I'm like, I have I
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  Speaker 2: met it? Like do I know him? She goes, no,
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  Speaker 2: you don't know him. I go, have we ever met?
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  Speaker 2: She goes, no, you've never met.
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  Speaker 1: He hates you.
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  Speaker 2: Because of things that you say that I then say
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  Speaker 2: to him, So he didn't want her to train with
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  Speaker 2: me anymore. He didn't want her to listen to me.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't want her to read any of my stuff.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't want me to follow her. He literally like
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  Speaker 2: he actually wanted her to unfollow everything, not read anything,
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  Speaker 2: and not come to the gym and train. So I
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  Speaker 2: always used to look out, well, for a year or two,
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  Speaker 2: look over my shoulder as I was getting into the
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  Speaker 2: car late at night. I thought I might find a
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  Speaker 2: disgruntled fucking bloke in the car park with a crowbar
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  Speaker 2: or something. But anyway, so it's good that your husband
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  Speaker 2: had the wisdom and insight Katrina to send you my way.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Now, you've got a really interesting story. There's
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  Speaker 2: no probably set way to get into this, but I
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  Speaker 2: want to because we want to talk about some interesting
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  Speaker 2: things down the track.
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  Speaker 1: Your story is one of inspiration, exhaustion, tragedy, sadness, recovery,
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  Speaker 1: like all the things. And I'm sure you can describe
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  Speaker 1: it much better than I can. But yeah, where do
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  Speaker 1: you normally start with your story?
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  Speaker 2: So I can say that your husband passed away, why
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  Speaker 2: don't you give that context and build on that and
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  Speaker 2: then we'll kind of go from there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, personally. Scott actually then attended one of your
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  Speaker 4: workshops and came and shook your hand and said thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Because when I say it, she doesn't listen, but for
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  Speaker 4: some reason she listens to you. And I think you
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  Speaker 4: said to him made for I had a dollar for
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  Speaker 4: every person that, every husband that says that to me,
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  Speaker 4: I'd be rich. He was a big fan, as much
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  Speaker 4: of a fan of you as I was. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: but back to the question. Yeah, Scott passed away on
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  Speaker 4: Australia Day in twenty nineteen from a heart attack. He
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  Speaker 4: was only forty two, and it was in that moment
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  Speaker 4: that one of the things that I learned there were
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  Speaker 4: many things that heart disease is the leading cause of
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  Speaker 4: death in our country. And I couldn't believe that. All right,
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  Speaker 4: someone who I thought had relatively good health literacy and Scott,
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  Speaker 4: who was an exercise scientist by trade, wow, had succumb
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  Speaker 4: to a disease that is highly preventable and highly treatable.
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  Speaker 4: He run marathons for fun. Who does that? Who runs
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  Speaker 4: marathons for fun?
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  Speaker 1: Not jumbo?
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  Speaker 4: And you know he was investigating his heart healthy because
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  Speaker 4: he knew that when he went for a run he
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  Speaker 4: had chest pain and when he stopped it went away.
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  Speaker 4: But one of the problems of living regionally is that
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  Speaker 4: access to GPS is challenging, and our GP had just
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  Speaker 4: left and so he had seen It was the third
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  Speaker 4: doctor that then actually took him seriously that he had,
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  Speaker 4: you know, maybe something wrong worth investigating. But then they
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  Speaker 4: concluded that it was gastro intestinal, so Scott had a
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  Speaker 4: referral to see a gastro enterologist. It was over Christmas.
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  Speaker 4: We went away on an annual family holiday to Adelaide,
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  Speaker 4: down to the beach, and then we came back in
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  Speaker 4: a week later he had died from a heart attack.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, did he have a heart attack and later
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  Speaker 1: in the hospital. Was it instant or what was it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? He was working out at home. He's another thing
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  Speaker 4: about Scott and I. We couldn't work out together. We
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  Speaker 4: weren't that couple. So I was at the gym working
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  Speaker 4: out and he was at home doing a workout, and
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  Speaker 4: I got a call from my son, who was twelve
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  Speaker 4: at the time, to say, Dud's called an ambulance. But
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  Speaker 4: you know that whole scenario that you see of a
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  Speaker 4: man gripping their chest and falling to the ground, it
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  Speaker 4: was nothing like that. Scott was sitting in the lounge
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  Speaker 4: room chair, and he was answering all the ambos questions,
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  Speaker 4: even having a laugh with them. And when they said
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  Speaker 4: he's having a heart attack. We've called the plane to
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  Speaker 4: ship him to Melbourne. He needs to put a stand
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  Speaker 4: in to open up that artery, I said him, he's
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  Speaker 4: having a heart attack. I couldn't I couldn't believe it.
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  Speaker 4: But Scott got up off the lounge, walked to the trolley.
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  Speaker 4: They willed him out into the ambulance. I kept my distance.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't want to get in the way of the ambos,
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  Speaker 4: and I blew him a kiss. I said, I'll see
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  Speaker 4: you at the hospital. We needed to go to the
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  Speaker 4: Mordua hospital and wait for the plane to come from Melbourne.
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  Speaker 4: So they had called the plane, called for the plane
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  Speaker 4: from our loundroom. So the process was go to the hospital,
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  Speaker 4: we'll keep him stable until that plane arrives. We didn't
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  Speaker 4: live very far from the hospital, about ten minutes away,
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  Speaker 4: and I got there before the ambulance did because they
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  Speaker 4: pulled over. Scott went into cardiac arrest when he got
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  Speaker 4: into the ambulance, and unfortunately he was never revived. From
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  Speaker 4: that moment, yeah, and that's when my world changed. Seven
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  Speaker 4: years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, So how long after you got to the hospital
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  Speaker 2: did the ambulance get there?
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  Speaker 1: And I mean by the.
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  Speaker 2: Way as much or as little like skip stuff like
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  Speaker 2: whatever you're okay with because this is this is a
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  Speaker 2: brave and hard conversation, but you know, wherever you're kind
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  Speaker 2: of comfortable to go. But yeah, when did you find out?
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  Speaker 2: So he passed away? And how long later did you
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  Speaker 2: find that out?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? So I saw they got there, say, you know,
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  Speaker 4: five minutes, not even five minutes after I got there,
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  Speaker 4: and I could see them wheel him in straight into
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  Speaker 4: the emergency department and they worked on him. I can't
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  Speaker 4: even remember how long the hospital staff worked on Scott.
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  Speaker 4: I know it was it felt like a while, so
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  Speaker 4: maybe an hour or more trying to bring him back.
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  Speaker 4: And in that time, I've been able to call his
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  Speaker 4: mum and his family to the hospital and my children,
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  Speaker 4: my two boys. Yeah, so to me, it feels like
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  Speaker 4: it happened so quickly, but then it didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so what happens in the first and it's
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  Speaker 1: different for everyone, but twenty four hours after that, like
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  Speaker 1: practically emotionally mentally, is it just a blur that you
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  Speaker 1: can't remember or do you remember distinct things.
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  Speaker 2: What were the things that you that came to mind
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  Speaker 2: other than the overwhelming grief and sadness. Did you go,
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  Speaker 2: is this my life now?
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  Speaker 1: Like what? Because there's in no way Were you prepared
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  Speaker 1: for your forty two year old, healthy fit, you know,
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  Speaker 1: exercise scientist husband to not be there for the next
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  Speaker 1: forty years?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think my first thing was mum mode kicked in.
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  Speaker 4: I'm the one responsible, like it's on me, It's all
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  Speaker 4: on me. And I remember saying, I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: I can do this because he was the better parent,
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  Speaker 4: and it was just I just spoke becased on my
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  Speaker 4: two boys for some reason. The thing that I remember, Harps,
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  Speaker 4: was something that you always shared online was control your controllables,
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  Speaker 4: and I just went straight there too. I can't change this,
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  Speaker 4: I cannot fix this because I am a bit of
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  Speaker 4: a fixer, and I accepted that. I was surprised in
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  Speaker 4: that moment that I accepted that and just went to, well,
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  Speaker 4: what can I control right now? And it was how
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  Speaker 4: I respond moving forward. So I just went into preparation,
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  Speaker 4: preparation for a funeral, telling people I had my brother
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  Speaker 4: was with me and Scott's family were with me. That afternoon,
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  Speaker 4: and I think I was just I was just paralyzed.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't Yeah, I felt like walking through mud meeting slow.
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  Speaker 4: I do remember I've spoken about this alcohol. The first thing.
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  Speaker 4: I had a bottle of wine in the fridge and
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  Speaker 4: I said to my brother, can you move the wine?
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  Speaker 4: And he did. And I may have had a sip
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  Speaker 4: of a beer that day, but for some reason I
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  Speaker 4: made this really conscious decision that you can't. You can't
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  Speaker 4: drink your way through this. Not that I was a heavy,
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  Speaker 4: heavy drink or anything, but I just instantly went to
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  Speaker 4: the things like, you know, don't don't drink. You've got
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  Speaker 4: to stay in control, you've got to organized, you've got
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  Speaker 4: to lead. Yeah. And then the sheer numbness that came
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  Speaker 4: from the card that we were just out.
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  Speaker 1: M How did grief manifest for you? Because it's different
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  Speaker 1: timelines and differentfferent things in sometimes different orders for different people.
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  Speaker 1: How did it show up for you?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I think this is where I feel. When you talk
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  Speaker 4: about your mom and my mom are very similar in
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  Speaker 4: their approach to life. My mom, bless her, always had
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  Speaker 4: the attitude of there's someone worse off than you, and
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  Speaker 4: that's very a good will intention. And I sort of
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  Speaker 4: clung to that, so I maybe dismissed a lot of
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  Speaker 4: my feelings, as in, there are plenty of other people
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  Speaker 4: that have had worse things happen to them, Katrina, you
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  Speaker 4: can do this. I learned the art of reframing, and
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  Speaker 4: so I would constantly reframe what happened. And if I
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  Speaker 4: asked the question why, I would never let myself go
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  Speaker 4: there and try to reframe it and be all wrap
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  Speaker 4: it up in gratitude. I'd be grateful for what I had.
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  Speaker 4: And I coined the phrase quality over quantity, you know,
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  Speaker 4: at least at least all over myself, which is one
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  Speaker 4: of the worst things that you can do to someone
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  Speaker 4: who's grieving, you say, at least And I did that
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  Speaker 4: to myself in the first I'd say, first twelve months.
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  Speaker 4: Really yeah. I just tried to not dwell on what
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  Speaker 4: had happened and just keep focusing what was going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: And I remember moving forward the year later, it was
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  Speaker 4: COVID and you Hearts put on a free workshop online
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  Speaker 4: and people could jump on and you know that whole
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  Speaker 4: why is this happening to us? You know it's not fair?
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  Speaker 4: And I jumped on because I was grieving, and then
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  Speaker 4: I had the whole COVID thing as well, with you know,
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  Speaker 4: being a solo parent, and I remember asking the question
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  Speaker 4: after you gave you talk about don't wait for the
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  Speaker 4: tragedy to happen, to get your house in order, and
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  Speaker 4: I just said, but I did all that before Scott died,
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  Speaker 4: and it still happened, and I can't move. I'm stuck.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what to do. I don't know what
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  Speaker 4: my purpose is. And your advice was you just need
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  Speaker 4: to be, you just need to be in the present.
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  Speaker 4: So I had been struggling. I was always either in
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  Speaker 4: the past or trying to ignore the past, or trying
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  Speaker 4: to prepare and get ready for the future. I could
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  Speaker 4: never just be and sit in my feelings. So I
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  Speaker 4: think over time and I couldn't give you a timeline,
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  Speaker 4: but probably more so in the last couple of years,
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  Speaker 4: I'm getting a lot better at feeling all the feelings,
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  Speaker 4: the sad, the angry, and I think angers come out
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  Speaker 4: the most. Like I've been angry a lot lately, but
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  Speaker 4: I've learned that anger isn't this awful, this bad feeling
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  Speaker 4: that we should have, like as long as you channel
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  Speaker 4: it well in a positive way. It's really helpful. And
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  Speaker 4: I think I have the right to be angry because
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  Speaker 4: living in Mordura, it's a great place. You've seen it
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  Speaker 4: halts in. It's not a small little backwater country town.
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  Speaker 4: It really is a thriving metropolis. And I just think,
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  Speaker 4: how can a man of that of that health literacy,
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  Speaker 4: who had opportunity to seek medical attention die from a
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  Speaker 4: preventable disease because of where he lives in the post
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  Speaker 4: Curry three to five double zero. And that's because we
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  Speaker 4: don't have the infrastructure here a cath lab where if
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  Speaker 4: we had to have the catheterization catheterization lab, a cath lab,
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  Speaker 4: Scott wouldn't have been taken to emergency. He would have
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  Speaker 4: been taken straight into a cath lab. But instead we
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  Speaker 4: had to wait for a plane that's based in Melbourne
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  Speaker 4: that our ambos have to call and say, we got
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  Speaker 4: a problem, you need to come, and it relies on
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  Speaker 4: ducks being in a row that plane to get here
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  Speaker 4: in time. So it's like flipping a coin when you
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: get to ed with something like Scott had as to
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: whether you live or die. And I cannot believe for
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: the life of me that that is the situation in
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: a country like Australia in this day and age.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how long did it take before you had
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: a good night's sleep?
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Let's just say tip you might pick up on this one.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: I blamed grief. I haven't slept properly since got died.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: I was a great sleeper. He used to get annoyed
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: at me that I put my hate on the pillow
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: and I'd be out and that would be me until,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: you know, I had to get up. I was scared
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: initially because I'd never really been alone at night, so
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I didn't sleep. I didn't take drugs they were given
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: to me, but it didn't sit comfortable because I still
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: had two little boys that I had to look after.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so you felt all the fields. You just
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: wrote it out. Yeah, it is hard. I'm not against drugs,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: and I'm not against you know, drugs to help you
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: sleep or calm or whatever. But it is.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Generally once you open the door onto antidepressants or anti
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: axiotics or drugs for insomnia, it's not many people use
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: those for a short period of time and then stop
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: and then it's all good.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: No, it often becomes a lifelong kind of thing.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't want to. I didn't want to go
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: down that path because of what I had heard about
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: them and just that responsibility. To me, it was a
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: bit like alcohol. If I was drunken out of it,
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Who's going to look after the kids if something happened
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: in the middle of the night, like I needed to
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: be able to show up as that best parent given
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: that I was now the only parent that as I've
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: moved along across seven years, a good old thing called
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: perimenopause has racked has whacked me, tiff, And I was
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: dismissed for so many years from that because it's just
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: a grief and there is an element that there was
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: in the initial phases, I would say in the first
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: few years. But god, the perimenopause is it really hit
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: my backside hard?
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Did you want to go It's not my fucking grief,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: it's my hormones, you're fucking.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, I have many times. So I feel like
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: I'm on the right path now within that area.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And at what stage, you know, post Australia twenty nineteen,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: did you get to the point mentally.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: And emotionally where you decided, of course you're looking after you,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: You're looking after your kids, You're looking after your family,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: and I don't know if it happened like this, but
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: you wanted to start to have a bit of a
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: mission to build awareness, potentially build resources, solve a medical problem.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: When did this kind of compassion and passion kickoff?
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: That year twenty nineteen. The first thing I did was
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: I remember laying in bed. I went down that path
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: of how could this happen? And I couldn't remember any
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: organization that could help with you know about heart heart health,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: and then I that you know that you've got the cancer,
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: You've got the Cancer Council as a resource that you
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: can go to. But I was laying in benouit Oh.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: I jump broke the heart that was the Heart Foundation.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: So I googled the Heart Foundation and I found our
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: hotline and I rang them and they were able to
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: They were the only ones that could explain to me
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: what had happened to Scott. And I guess that I
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: felt really not indebted to them, but I build a
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: connection to the Heart Foundation. So that year I decided
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: I was going to run the Melbourne Marathon, a half marathon,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: because Scott was a marathon runner run that twice and
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I thought the best way to honor who he was
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: as a person is to try and emulate who he was.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: And I raised some money for the Heart foul. I
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: think it was twelve thousand dollars or something.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Like that that I had amazing.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: It was a Cliff Young shuffle. It wasn't I'm not
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: fuel for running. And I was always going to run
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: a half marathon with Scott but that year actually but
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: we never got there. So I still did it, and
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: from that moment on, every year I'd done something for
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: the Heart Foundation to help raise awareness and raise money
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: for research and to hopefully start telling the story of Nordura,
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: this regionality and the inequity that exists so that we
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: can change what happened to Scott. Not change what happened
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: to Scott, but changed the future for other people in
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: our community. So I've had I did a radio athon.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: I did had deal rook Ja singer who had his
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: own heart attack and wrote a comedy show about it.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Brought him some more Durham. He came and did the
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: show and that was phenomenal. A trekt Cradle Mountain with
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: my seventeen year old son as an ambassador for the
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Heart Foundation. Yeah, I've done a lot of awareness, but
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: my big thing was, so we don't have the cat lab,
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: which is the intervention, so what do people do knowing
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: that that's the situation? So I wanted to empower people.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: You need to know what your risk is to heart disease.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: And then when I started to look into how heart
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: health or heart disease is screened in our country and
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: particularly out here in the regions, I discovered that there
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: are so many barriers like getting to see a GP,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: even though it is Medicare funded, you know, it takes
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: time and at that time cost to go and see
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: a GP. And where we live there, we do have
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: a low socio economic population here that just don't choose
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: preventative health and there and I discovered that less than
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: one percent of the eligible population across Australia actually engage
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: in that system and get their heart health checked, which
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: they're entitled to do. So Latrobe University has a campus
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: here in Mardura and they decided to come to our
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: community and they asked They just brought community members and
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: organizations together and they asked, what's the biggest health challenge
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: facing the community. And apparently I wasn't there a few
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: people stuck up their hands and said, where's Katrina umback.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: She'll tell you it's heart disease. And from there I
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: got a cold call from the local campus saying which
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: talk to our researchers and from there we've then had
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: another community focus group with people with lived experience and
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: service providers and we were saying what the barriers were
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: trying to come up with solutions, and one of the researchers,
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Associate Professor Simon Edgerton, said, so you want something like
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: BOO screening but for your heart, like a kit that
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: goes to your home where you can do your heart
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: health check. And we were like, yeah, that's it, that's
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: what we want. That's not possible, and he said, let's
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: have a go. So from there we came together and
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: we applied to the Medical Research Future Fund that's funded
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: by the Australian government and we were funded first sure
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: by the Australian government. So that's what we're doing now.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: So I've kind of switched from awareness and fundraising to
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: more more tangible.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Solution finding. Solution finding, yeah, let's fucking solve that.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Well, at least you're back into that space, you like,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: you're fixing. You're not just talking about stuff, you're fixing stuff.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: So am I correct in saying it's called the Heart
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Health Check Community Project?
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. It's a bit of a mouthful, and
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: that came from the beauty of this research. It is
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: co designed and co led by community, So Latrobe is
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: leading the research, but community and local clinicians and the
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: local healthcare industry are walking side by side on this project.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: So we had co design sessions with community and we
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: wanted to say we don't want it to feel academic.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: We don't want it to feel too clinical, because we
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: want people to engage in the research and we want
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: them to feel ownership over the project too. We're doing
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: research with them, not on us, which happens quite a lot.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: We have research that's done to us out in the
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: regions rather than with us.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: So we're very big on collaboration.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, very big on collaboration and doing it with
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: community for community. And the vision of this project is well,
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: it's an at home heart health check kit that will
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: be mailed out to you and you can do the
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: model that's used in the GP clinic, which is the
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: current model of care. We're taking it out of the
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: GP clinic and putting it in people's homes, and if
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: they don't feel like doing it that way, they can
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: also explore doing it with a community pharmacist, a local pharmacy. Yeah,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: we're measuring which model is more feasible and usable for
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: people out here in rural communities because how we live
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: and interact with healthcare is very different to how it
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: is in a metropolitan location. So this is about building
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: equity and access. So we're investigating those two models and
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: the vision is that hopefully we can use the research
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: to influence future heart health screening for rural populations, but
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: for US across Australia as well.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: That's amazing. What's it like becoming an accidental academic.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: My mum says, it's not bad for a UNI dropout.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: You might get an you might get an honorary doctorate,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: you might get one. You might get one before me.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, I think you're a shoe in. I'm
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: just I'm just the I work. We think I connect
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: community to research and research to community, which is sometimes
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: very challenging, but it's a great challenge to have.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Like when you're talking about you know, kind of informing,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: educating collaborating, building connection with the community. Like, there's two
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I think distinct bits. Is one, what's the intervention or
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: what's the test or what's the whatever? It is the tool,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: the thing that we're going to use that we end
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: up that you come up with, you and the team,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: like here's the kit, here's the equivalent of the bow
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: screening kit or whatever. Hey, Brian, do a poo in
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: that and send it. Now, let's not do that. But also,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: then what's going to get embraced because I know, even
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: with the bow screening things, I would say eight out
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: of ten of my mates that get that don't use it,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: maybe nine, but everyone gets censored, you know. So there's
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: the thing that's going to actually there's going to be
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: an uptake on it. There's going to be people actually
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: using it and doing the test and getting that benefit.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: And it's so you're right, trying to speak trying to
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: speak a language that resonates with people and where you
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: kind of like what we're trying to do is inform
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: and educate, not terrify.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's the challenge, isn't it. How do you
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: how do you see I mean, apart from the geographical
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: and the demand and supply issues. What's kind of the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: this is this is.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Purely an opinion every once, so don't take this as
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: science or research, but your experience, like the thinking, the mindset,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: the attitude around stuff like this, rural versus city.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: One.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: People more laid back about, like it'll be all right
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: or it's the same, it's just that you lack the resources.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the same. I mean I think if you asked,
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: I've been lucky and fortunate to go to different events
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: and advocate in Canberra and Sydney and you have people
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: I feel like I've become a bit of the rural
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: person in the room, which I'll happily do. There's always
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: very metro people people from metropolitan locations, I should say,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: and the issues in engaging in the system are usually
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: the same. But then you amplify it at our end
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: because we don't have enough GPS where we live. We
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: don't have a cath lab to get emergency cardiac treatment.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I feel like it's all about systems and
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: having different systems for different geographical locations is I must
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: in a country like Australia, because the one thing we
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: can't change is our geography. But rather than seeing it
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: as a negative, I feel like we need to start
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: looking at it as a real advantage. So when you
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: were here helps you would have learned that maljurishiare the
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: border with Victoria and South Australia and Mildura is like
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: the tri state capital of that little region. So a
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: lot of of the outlying towns like o Yen and
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: robin Vale, Renmark, Broken Hill from far west New South
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Wales or use Moldura as their hub. So rather than
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: you know, sticking to Noe, that's Victoria, that's South Australia,
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: that's New South Wales, I see a real opportunity in
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: a real chair chants to use our geography to its
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: benefit by creating these little what would you call it,
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: little outreach centers from metropolitan areas where people can access
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: everything that they need. You know, I get told cardiologists
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: won't come to more Dura because they don't want to
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: come to more Dura, But when you actually ask them,
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: I've been told, yeah, we would, it's just that we
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: can't because you don't have a cat lab. I can't
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: continue to be a credentialed cardiologist, an interventionalist cardiologist because
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: I can't do what I'm trained to do, and I
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: see that as an opportunity because if we had one,
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: not only would we then get cardiologists to do the treatment,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: but we would have We've got two university campuses here,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Monash University and Latrob Latrobe primarily trains the nurses, Monash
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: primarily chin trains the medical doctors. That then we could
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: be offering educational opportunities to students locally and particularly kids.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: You know, there's this big push in real health care
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: to grow your own workforce, to give them aspiration to
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: want to stay and train in their own communities. But
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: then also the economic development. I keep saying this, you've
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: seen more. It is beautiful. We're right on the Murra River,
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: we have more sunny days than the Gold Coast. It's
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: really easy to live here. People would then want to
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: come and live here. People would want to stay and
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: live here because they know that they can access the
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: appropriate health care that they need, rather than having to
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: be located closer to our metropolitan location, or our kids
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: having to go away to university to achieve their career aspirations.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: So it's not primarily it is about saving lives. But
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: if you start and widen your gaze a bit. You
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: can see that there is far more benefit to investing
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: in regional communities like more Dura, who can be the
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: epicenter of other rural locations. I just think to me,
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: you know, if we flip the coin and said to
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: metro people, you've got to travel to Rule to get
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: your health care? Yeah, do you reckon that would happen?
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Like there would be an inquiry, there would be a
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: royal commission, you know. So I'm just asking people with
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: power and influence to try and think about this from
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: a different lens and maybe start having the conversation with
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: community rather than about community.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: First, I love the fact that you're jumping up and down,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and you need to keep jumping up and down, and
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: you need others jumping up and down with you, because unfortunately,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: unless you make noise, it seems you don't get the
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: kind of attention that you need. And I also love
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: that you are the unofficial pr lady for mil Jurra.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: You're doing a bloody splendid job. I loved it. I
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: loved I'm not just saying it because you said. I
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: remember getting picked up from the Gigantic airport and the
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Hipport's actually very nice. It's actually quite flash.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I remember for a country, I'm thinking, yeah, because it
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: was it's like overdone almost for it anyway, it was beautiful,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: but I was I got picked up. I forget his name.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Do you know his name? I know it, but I'm
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: forgetting it right now?
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Yes, so am I. That's terrible?
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I remember he was driving a bloody silver silver Toyota Highlarks.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I remember, It'll come to me anyway. Good man, great man,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: good man, great man. I'm Donald Trump all of a sudden,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: and I just remember going past the houses and I'm like,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: what would that cost? He was telling me, I go,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: what would that cost? I'm like, I'm moving to mill
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Dura like it is? It is genuinely did he.
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: Show you the houses along the river?
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I wanted it to because
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: at that stage, I was, you know, investing moving to Mildew.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: May holiday out there.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: So what needs to happen over the next year or
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: two for this to become more than just an interesting
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: project that's getting a bit of attention and trying to
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: get you know, certain things put in place. What what
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: would you love to see happen? Over the next year
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: or two two.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think just it's a real opportunity. The
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: research project technically is a clinical trial. It was a
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: pilot study and it was upgraded to a clinical trial,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: so that's a good sign of the belief in the
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: in the research project. And I think for me, it's
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: if there are people listening, which I know there are
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: many people in Aljuria that listen to the U project that.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Bloody you, bloody mild euro champions.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Legends get behind this and actually you've got an opportunity
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: to not only get a heart health check, so you
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: will know what your risk to heart disease is and
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: there'll be referral pathways. But in doing that, you're playing
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: that one percent. So it's not just me jumping up
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: and down like a banshee. It's a collective voice where
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: you get a heart health check, but you also get
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: that opportunity to contribute to something bigger than yourself that
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: will help other people. So my big shout out to
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: all the Mauldurians and those on the other side of
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: the river over in New South Wales and went Worth
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Dirt and Gogol and Berongai is to get on board
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: and sign up and try a new way and take part.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: And who knows, this little old area affectionately called Sunraisier
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: could be the birthplace of how heart health checks are
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: delivered for rural communities, but even for the rest of
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: the country.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'm going to a q an
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: offer on the you project, which I've never made to
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: anyone ever ever, any guest.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Ever when you talk about to say it publicly, here's this.
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  Speaker 2: If you can get a thousand people at thirty bucks
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  Speaker 2: ahead in a room, I'll come up. I'll do it
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  Speaker 2: all for free, and all that thirty grand can go
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: to your research.
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  Speaker 4: In the next year.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Whenever you want, I'll come up for free. Don't have
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: to fly me out, don't have to accommodate me. But
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: if someone wants to give me a hotel room, fucking
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: feel free. And if someone wants to fly me out
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: because you just feel free. But otherwise I'll come up.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I'll slip in the back of the bloody the Toyota
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: rus and no like. If you can make that happen.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be a thousand, but any number,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: like if you can get a whole bunch of people
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: from the area let's come up and do.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: A half day workshop. I'll donate my everything and let's
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: make some dough. So that's a little that's a little
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: side project for.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: You because I do something.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got nothing. You're doing right now?
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Doing nothing?
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Everyone? And mil Jura or your meal Duran's what do
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: we call meal jir? What do we call people from.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: Mil Mildy milty?
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: So all you Milti's when you see Katron and go
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: when's harps coming?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: By the way, we need a free auditorium, so any
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: people have an auditorium?
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe the UNI, definitely the UNI.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, have you okay?
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: All right, well let's figure that out. It's that I'm
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: on like Donkey Kong. You might come up and bloody
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: she might, she might, she might open she might do
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: you know, like a little fifteen minutes inspiration at the start, maybe,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: you know, just kind of warm up the audience and then.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I'll come out like a big fucking bonce.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: In you.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: The best flannel, camo thongs.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: I may even put on shoes, fuck it, the fancy
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: occasion pucket.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll love you. They already love you up here.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: You're amazing. We love chatting with you now.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Tell people how they can help or where they can
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: go and look at staff, or let's be honest, give
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: some dough that'd be good.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Steer people towards something.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we really want people in the sun Rasia
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: area to sign up to the research. So if they
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: head to one Heart so the word One Heart Together
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: dot au, it'll take you straight to the website where
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: they can sign up. Or you can find us on Facebook,
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: LinkedIn or Instagram the Heart Health Check Community Project, or
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: you can even call one three hundred one four three
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: two seven eight to register to take part in the research.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: And there's heaps of flyers around town with my mug
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: on them and other local community people. If you see
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: that scann a QR code and sign your life away
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: and sign up to something that's life changing, you're the best.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: If you're going to come for a roadie, I.
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  Speaker 5: Was already sold when she said there was that many
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: sunny days in mil Dura.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Absolutely we may never come back. Yeah, sorry, Scott, Sorry Scott,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: you might have to just be her pen friend from
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: now on.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: I'm not too spared their dream. So you know that's
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: all good.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Let's wait and see what happens in the free hotel
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: range before we yeah, because if it's got sleep happen here.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: So it's like a fucking wall in the next room.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: By the way, everyone, I do not know that.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Top and tails, sleeping bags, fucking which your bloke with
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: a painted fingernails sitting in the middle like a weirdo.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I don't need. I don't need him, but yeah I could.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: And it's been great. We appreciate you. Thanks so much
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: for what you're doing. Thanks for caring. You're a genuinely
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: great person doing great things, and I have nothing but
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: admiration for you.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: And I mean that, I genuinely mean that. So well
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: done you.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Thanks Harps, Thanks tiff. When Scott always said, when you
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: know better, you do better, so that's what I try
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: to do.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: When you know that's the title of the show. I think,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: what am I going to call this? Can you remind
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: me if I forget Katryna run back, Tiffany and Cook,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Craig Anthony Harper signing off for another episode of The
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: You Project. We'll be back tomorrow probably, Thanks Katrina, Thanks tiff,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: thank you. Oh we fucking won't. Who knows