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🍎 Real Housewives of New York Recap: Carole's Carpool Cafe Comeback & Martha’s Casting · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Drama, darling. Drama, darling. Drama, darling.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, hey there. It's me, your bish wife, over here
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  Speaker 2: at Drama Darling. And I'm live from the Cheetah Room.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me is Deanna Chang over there.
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  Speaker 3: What's up?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, in Glass Hill Park. What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Hey. Hey, girl.
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  Speaker 2: Hey. Hey. It's a gorgeous California day. I am so
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: excited because we get to talk about Roni today. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Should we welcome ourselves in? Please. Because this episode delivered
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  Speaker 2: so well. I was like, thank you. I will sign
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  Speaker 2: for this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Put your signature on it because we've got something.
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: Because Carol coming in. Was that not like amazing to
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: see her from the back with that, with the headphones on,
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  Speaker 2: like we saw her and were introduced to her all
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  Speaker 2: those years ago for the first time coming down those
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  Speaker 2: steps and she had those headphones around her neck. It
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: was like classic Carol is coming back. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: No, it really is something. It's, you know, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's like they're knowing how to put the respect on
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  Speaker 3: it and to do it upright. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Carol and Andy had some sort of interview
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: somewhere at some point and they were sitting next to
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  Speaker 2: each other and they were reflecting on how they had
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: some hard times. Yeah. Very candidly. And she was getting
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  Speaker 2: choked up and was just so grateful to him. And
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  Speaker 2: that was a time. I mean, they really went through it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll never forget how During that interview where she was like,
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: she said something to Andy like, stop being an asshole, Andy,
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  Speaker 2: or something like that. It was like, whoa. And we
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: all felt the reverberations of that hit our sphere.
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  Speaker 3: And you can see it happening so easily when you're
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  Speaker 3: friends with someone, which she was friends with him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: She's also Karen.
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  Speaker 2: Karen?
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  Speaker 3: Not Karen. She's Carol Razuel.
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  Speaker 2: Razuel.
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  Speaker 3: She's dealing with Bethany, you know, who's there, who was
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  Speaker 3: part of that moment. Yes. Listen, they can both lean
• 2:37
  Speaker 3: back on their hatred for Beth. And that's great.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, right. Oh, right. They can bond on that. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure that's probably what brought them back together.
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  Speaker 3: Well, of course. I mean, come on. I mean, duh,
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  Speaker 3: now that I think about it.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just so nice to see her there. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm so glad they waited for episode two to bring
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: her in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Deanna Chang, when we got into that red Jeep.
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  Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: And we experienced that street sweeper mania. I know. The
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  Speaker 2: ABCs and one, two, threes. And like when Erica came
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  Speaker 2: in and then when she said the street sweeper's coming
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  Speaker 2: or Carol's like, oh, I got to go. And you
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  Speaker 2: felt that sense of urgency. And then Erica was like, ooh.
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  Speaker 2: And then I was like, ooh, this is kind of exciting.
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  Speaker 2: And you saw in the back of her, outside of
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  Speaker 2: her rear view, what is it? The back window. You
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  Speaker 2: saw that street sweeper a coming, like a villain in
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  Speaker 2: a movie. And I was like, she's got to get
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  Speaker 2: the fuck out of there.
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  Speaker 1: She's got to go.
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  Speaker 3: She's got to go to the other side of the street.
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  Speaker 2: And then she put it in drive. And then just
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  Speaker 2: Did an angular, she stayed in the middle of the street,
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  Speaker 2: which I was not expecting. I was expecting alternate sides, right?
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  Speaker 2: That she was going to park there for a second
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  Speaker 2: and come back around. But then when that other car
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: came in from the back, immediately on the tail of
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  Speaker 2: that street.
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  Speaker 3: She backed his ass up.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 3: Could you even believe that? That's a real New Yorker.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's like more than anything, more than the kitchen,
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  Speaker 3: moving the office into the car, you know, all of it.
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  Speaker 3: Her backing that car's ass all the way. And you
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  Speaker 3: have to go back. Because you know what's been going on.
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  Speaker 3: You tried it.
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  Speaker 2: You tried it.
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  Speaker 3: You tried it, black car.
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  Speaker 2: You tried it. Yeah, you knew.
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  Speaker 3: But she reclaimed it. Her time and her space and
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  Speaker 3: her spot. And she went for it.
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  Speaker 2: And Erica did not, she had no idea what was
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  Speaker 2: coming when she experienced that office. When she saw Carol's
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  Speaker 2: office reverse back at an angle, at a 45 degree angle. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: And that other car knew, you know, they were like, okay, we're,
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  Speaker 2: But honestly, shocked that they did reverse and move back
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  Speaker 2: out of the way. Because New York, you think so? Well, listen,
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  Speaker 2: they saw a spot.
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  Speaker 3: They saw a spot. They saw a spot. They went
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  Speaker 3: for it. Then they realized, sweeping, this chick's been waiting.
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  Speaker 3: She's coming back. So also, it's like you have to
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  Speaker 3: move when somebody's coming back. You know, like.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right. There's a good point. You do need. She wasn't
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  Speaker 2: going to stop. Headphones or not, she's coming.
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  Speaker 3: She's coming. So, I mean, it's so, like, when we
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  Speaker 3: would stay with Wing's dad in Brooklyn, that journey with
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  Speaker 3: the car and the finding a spot and the alternate
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  Speaker 3: side of the street, like, it is so brutal. And
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  Speaker 3: that in Brooklyn, they'll double, you know, they'll double park.
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  Speaker 3: It's just so crazy and so stressful. And when you
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  Speaker 3: get that spot, it's just like a miracle.
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  Speaker 2: It's like you won a war. You won a war.
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  Speaker 2: And to have to do that, well, two days a
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  Speaker 2: week because you're there street sweeping twice a week because
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  Speaker 2: it's New York. So you have to. And so, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, when we were introduced to her, when she
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  Speaker 2: started walking out of her apartment, like she's going to
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  Speaker 2: go get on the subway or like go walk to,
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: you know, the Guggenheim. I don't know what Carol's up to. But, like,
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  Speaker 2: she walked, you know, maybe 10 steps and then got
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  Speaker 2: in that car. And then to be introduced that she
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  Speaker 2: had office hours between 9 and 10.30 every Tuesday and Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: I had no idea it was because of the street sweeping.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought, wow, this is a really– regimented person. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't expect this from Carol, that she would have
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  Speaker 2: office days and really stick to that. Because I see
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: her as, you know, certainly not somebody who would have
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  Speaker 2: a very strict schedule. And then we find out the
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: big reveal is that she's got a.
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: She's got... And that was interesting about Erica because I
• 7:17
  Speaker 3: thought she was like, she should just rent... A parking space, right? Like, yeah, no, duh.
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  Speaker 3: Except that that's going to, see.
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: Like Carol's money. Like $ 20, 000 a month, right?
• 7:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know, 15? Well, I don't know. Like I
• 7:30
  Speaker 3: know it doesn't have to, it all depends on where
• 7:33
  Speaker 3: you're living. Five, 10, 15, it could be 50. Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Like it can be, like I know a friend in
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  Speaker 3: Brooklyn does. In a very nice area, Brooklyn does 500
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  Speaker 3: a month.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, really? That's it?
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  Speaker 3: But that's... She's in Manhattan. That's going to be a
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  Speaker 3: different story. Carol's in... It's going to be a totally
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  Speaker 3: different story. So, like, you know, let's double it and
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  Speaker 3: say 1,000 a month. I can't get my paws around
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  Speaker 3: Carol's finances for love or money. Like, I can't tell if...
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  Speaker 3: It's like, are you.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Or are you wealthy? I can't tell.
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  Speaker 2: God, you are raising such a great point because.
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  Speaker 1: You're right.
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  Speaker 2: We cannot tell because if you were to look at,
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  Speaker 2: if we were to break this down, okay, let's look at, well,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to look at house. We're going to look
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  Speaker 2: at style and we're going to look at what's happening
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  Speaker 2: in her career.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Those are the three things that we need to look
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  Speaker 2: at in order to see where we're at. And by
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  Speaker 2: the end of that, we still don't have an answer, right?
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  Speaker 2: So she's been in the same apartment for a really
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  Speaker 2: long time. If it's rent controlled, which it might be,
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  Speaker 2: then she probably doesn't have a very big overhead in
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  Speaker 2: terms of her finances per month. So that's pretty steady.
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  Speaker 2: She hasn't moved, which tells me that either she can't
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: afford to move Or she doesn't even want to move
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  Speaker 2: because she loves her apartment. And it's a great apartment.
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  Speaker 2: And she doesn't need much more than that, right? So
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  Speaker 2: low overhead, plus her style is also low overhead. She's
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  Speaker 2: the cool chick with the jeans and the jackets, right?
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  Speaker 2: So she's not doing designer bags necessarily unless it's like
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: a clutch. And then, you know, she's probably had it
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  Speaker 2: from like, it's probably Lee Radsville's.
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  Speaker 3: And it's, you know, like, Yeah. But you have to remember,
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  Speaker 3: and I want you to remember, when she first came
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: on the scene, first season she was on, Lou was
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  Speaker 3: borrowing dresses. And I need to touch back on this
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  Speaker 3: because I have to because I can't get my head
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  Speaker 3: around this woman's finances. Lou was borrowing a dress like
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  Speaker 3: they all do. And Carol was like– because her and
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  Speaker 3: Lou were beefing at that time. And she was like
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  Speaker 3: this is her first season. She's like, I own. Oh, wow. Chills.
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  Speaker 3: Do you remember that?
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I sure don't. And I'm really glad you
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  Speaker 2: said it, darling, because when Radsaville dragged me for that,
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  Speaker 2: I'll never forget. Now I'm on stage, darling. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: My own. But then she was like selling things on
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  Speaker 3: Poshmark or something worse. Like not even.
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  Speaker 2: Also, really rich people sell stuff when they're like old money.
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  Speaker 2: Old money, they have estate sales. They have garage sales.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's how they– and she seems like– so did
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  Speaker 2: she get a decent– You know, chunk of money through
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  Speaker 2: her family.
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  Speaker 3: Or her– His– Yeah, her husband. Yeah. Well, I think also,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 2: Journalism didn't pay the bills. It couldn't have.
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: Books– She did have a top seller.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Books, yes. So I'm sure she made something nice on
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  Speaker 3: that potentially.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: It's just so hard to say. I did watch an
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  Speaker 3: interview with her recently, like the last month, with a
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  Speaker 3: friend of hers who she was saying– I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what it was, but she was saying that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, the finance queen or whatever. I know what
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about. I follow her on Instagram, and then
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: when she popped up on her podcast, I was like, oh,
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: my gosh, I can't believe they know each other because
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: I follow this finance lady.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Is she... I'll follow her. Do you like her? Yeah,
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: she's great.
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  Speaker 2: She's really great. And it's not like the money, honey,
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  Speaker 2: but it's something like that. And I'm sorry, I never
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: pay attention to names anymore because I don't... Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, at this point, who can... It's enough already.
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  Speaker 2: But that's a really good point.
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  Speaker 3: But in that pod, we learned that Anthony put some
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: sort of money away for her that just had sat...
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  Speaker 3: It was like $ 50, 000 and.
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  Speaker 3: When she was like dealing with her accountant, it had
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  Speaker 3: made its way up to like $ 400, 000 or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: Because it's just been sitting there compounding and she didn't
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: even realize. Of course she didn't realize. Yeah, she had
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: no idea it was over there. But all to say–
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  Speaker 3: It didn't feel like, hey, I'm just going to stick
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  Speaker 3: this pile of money on my bigger pile of money.
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: It was like, oh, thank God. You know what I mean? Right.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know. It's a mystery.
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  Speaker 2: And who is her family? Where is she from? We
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Like, where did she even come from?
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: I don't really know.
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: Where she popped up from. Is she an alien? Possibly.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: Possibly. You never know, honestly. I mean, who... Yeah, that's actually.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm going to say she's an alien. Like, let's
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: just say she's an alien.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: But.
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  Speaker 2: All right. We.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Her stapling that roof was just... Like, okay, I guess
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  Speaker 2: you really have to realize, let's just stick with that
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  Speaker 2: and say, if you're stapling your roof, you're not well off. Okay?
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  Speaker 2: So maybe we just land there. She could use some money.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think?
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  Speaker 3: I think that she... She probably has assets, but I
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: don't think she has cash flow.
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  Speaker 1: Liquid.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great point.
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  Speaker 2: She doesn't want to risk taking money out of these
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: accounts because that's for the future and how she can retire.
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  Speaker 2: So if that's her game plan, she's got to do
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  Speaker 2: the 1997 Jeep with a stapled fabric roof. That's fine.
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  Speaker 2: And then she'll buy a house in the Hamptons and
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: retire there. Oh, great.
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  Speaker 3: No problem. She did say in that podcast that she's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he probably knew that it needed to be
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  Speaker 3: tucked away because had it doubled even, I would have
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  Speaker 3: taken it immediately. Oh, my God. Because I would have
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: been like, oh, my God, amazing. It doubled, you know. Wow. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't– it's– Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I think that we're landing– Well.
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  Speaker 3: We're getting somewhere. I think she might have spent a
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  Speaker 3: lot and now she needs more.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: Well, and then you think like, why is she on
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: the Housewives?
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: Is it money related?
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Because it's probably not.
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: Really for fun.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Well, actually, hold on. I remember when she hit the
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: press around Love Story when it came out. And I thought,
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: this is so interesting. The reason why she's coming on
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Watch What Happens Live after all of these years is
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: to promote something that she's working on because she was
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: a consultant on that show, even though she didn't... What?
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  Speaker 3: She went on... No, she had never watched it.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: I know she never watched it, but like.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: There's no way, Amy.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: But she was on Watch What Happens Live and she
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: was promoting that show.
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  Speaker 3: And I swear... Because she's hurt by it. Now, maybe
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  Speaker 3: it's because of the book. Maybe she did get back
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: out there because she had all these sales for her book. Okay.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it is. But she was doing some
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: light press during that time. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 3: So it was for the book, you think? Maybe that's
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: what it is. I think it was for the book,
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: and that actually makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: It does make more sense, especially after this episode, which
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: can we just discuss how absolutely... disrespectful, and clueless a
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: person can be. Jessel Tank, I'm looking at you. Just
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: when you think, wow, Erin's very devilish with her talking
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: about you left and right, and her points about her
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: being a clout chaser, this and that and the other thing,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true or not. Whatever, I'll
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: leave that there. She shouldn't be talking about her because
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: of that. She should be talking about her because of
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  Speaker 2: how rude she was with the questions that she asked
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: carol about her deceased best friend and and making light
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: of it at a brunch conversation and and i know
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  Speaker 2: that that daisy began the conversation but she began it
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: out of reverence and respect and curiosity not out of
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: inconsiderate questions like was carolyn beset a bitch You know,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: like I can't even imagine someone speaking about a friend
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  Speaker 2: of mine that was so close that has now passed
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  Speaker 2: and then saying those words. I don't know how Carol
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: sat there, like honestly.
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  Speaker 3: She didn't. I was proud of her for leaving because
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: it was so out of pocket. And Daisy didn't come
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: in with the exact right energy. She came in too jubilant.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: That said what Daisy did do.
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  Speaker 2: Jubilant is the perfect way to describe it. In comparison
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: to Jessel, it was much preferred, but I agree, it
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: was weird too.
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  Speaker 3: But she immediately adjusted the tone when she got, you know,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: sometimes you can get caught up, which I understand. In
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: a moment, it's sweeping the nation, you know? So you're
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: caught up, but then you're looking at Carol's face and
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: you're thinking it through and you adjust your tone. Yeah. Jessel. Oh, Amy. Amy.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: I really couldn't believe it.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I couldn't either. I was like, is this out of context?
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  Speaker 2: Did Carol leave? Like, what is, are we actually watching
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: a person do this?
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  Speaker 3: She was like, you don't? Oh, God. You don't? Why?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: A Carolyn Bessette summer. A Carolyn Bessette summer. You know,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: minimals and, you know, neutrals and minimals. You're doing it
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  Speaker 2: right now. Right, Carol? You know. Oh. I mean. Why
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: can't I do that? Why can't I do that? Bitch.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Because that was my best friend. And you're minimizing it.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: You're reducing her to a fucking TikTok trend.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: It's so gross.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: It changes my complete view of Jessel entirely based on
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: that one interaction.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I hear you. I mean, it was such nimrod behavior. And.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like, has this girl ever had obviously no one
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: in her life? I mean, I would go ahead and
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: say she's never lost anyone because how are you that
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: thick and dense?
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: And if this is like a 22-year-old influencer on TikTok
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: that doesn't even really know who Carol is and maybe
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: heard that Carol somehow knew that family, that would be
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: an appropriate– conversation because of who you would think would
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: be meeting each other. But this is a grown woman. Age,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: being young is no excuse.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: No.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: You just are dense and disrespectful. Yeah. It's so, so strange. Carol, Carol,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: her response like, yeah, I don't love that was you
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: don't have like there's no one who has more less
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: chill than Carol. And this is a perfect example. Now,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: I know that she left and I thought, oh, good,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: she's leaving because she's not going to take this anymore.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: and i think her reason was like i'm gonna go
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: take a nap which god love because that was amazing
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: yes i and then that show started and i thought
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: well oh she's leaving because the show started and maybe
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: she doesn't want to be around but i think oh
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: no you think she left because.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: A hundred percent because even the way she gave she
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: had to go. I mean, it was just, it wasn't
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: stopping and it was so, and everyone else, you know, I,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I wanted someone to check her.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Why didn't anybody say anything? That was weird.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: They like kind of just murmured, but no one like
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: stopped her dead in her tracks, you know?
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Because she doesn't really have a full ally on her
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: level on this show.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Right. Right.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Like, if Bethany were there and Bethany and Carol were
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: best friends, Bethany would have been like, are you crazy?
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Like, are you insane?
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Like, this was like a– like, how do you– like,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: are you kidding me?
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Like, creams?
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Like, minimal? Like, minimal?
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Like, you're minimal. Like, I can't even– like.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Let's go. I mean, she would have had her back immediately.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: But no ma'am. No one there.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: No. I mean, the Martha– listen, Martha's, you know– Webb
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: only goes so far. You know, she apparently like Martha
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: is the reason she's like the Jill Zarin of this season. Connector, connector, like, yeah.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: And then Daisy into this one. That was crazy.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Martha is in every still photo that like has been
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: put up on our screens. You know, every still photo
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: that you see has Martha in it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. I'm like, what is happening here? Brought to
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: you by Martha Stewart, powered by.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Was this, now let's ask this. Do you think that
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: they like went to Martha and they were like, Martha,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: will you please be on The Real Housewives of New
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: York City? And she's like, never. I would never lure
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: myself to do that. I could not do it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Real Housewives, no.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: And they're like, okay, please, please, what if we gave you, like,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: $ 2 million? And she's like, not even close. And they're like, three, four,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: how about $ 5 million? You only have to be in
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: group scenes, you know, all this stuff. And she's like, well...
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I'll take the five, but I'll just give you a
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: quick pop up scene when someone's doing my makeup. I'll
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: give you my makeup artist. I'll give you another girl
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: that I know that's the husband who does my tech.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I'll also give you, you know, like she's bargaining. I
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: love it. And she basically maybe was the conduit that
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: brought the next version of this cast in.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I like everything. I was just lost
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: in your theories and your Martha. I'm not critical about it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: I just took it in lovingly. I think that feels
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: about right. It's like they built a cast around Martha's connections.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Martha's not there.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: But you know what? We got her in the beginning. Listen,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I know Andrew Cohen. and co they have been getting
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: together in little clutches and they're like, we're going to
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: be dipped in shit. If we have to close down
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: at New York, Roni's not getting closed down. No. So
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: let's figure this shit out. And it looked like Martha
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: and Martha's associates. I think.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. They, I think that Andy is,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: scoured all of his celebrity friends in New York and
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: was like, please, like Beth Stern, can we get you
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: on this show? Absolutely not. Okay, fine, fine. That's a
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: hard no. Let's go over here. Kelly Ripa, Sarah Jessica Parker,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: like all of the people that he, Amy Sedaris, I
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: don't know, every single New Yorker, he's like, straining through
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: what can you give me?
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Oops.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: What can you give me if you can't give me you?
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And you got to help me out because we need
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: to have New York represented in the right way. And like,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I could see him being like, and you know this,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: we can't put shit on the TV for New York,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: for New York housewives. Like it represents you and you
• 24:08
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• 24:10
  Speaker 3: That's, that's true. Good. Great, great point, Andy. Honestly, great point.
• 24:17
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• 24:17
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• 24:22
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• 24:25
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• 24:26
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• 24:29
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• 24:31
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• 24:36
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• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:43
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• 24:46
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• 24:47
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• 32:38
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about Erica, who is like Paige DeSorbo's
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Like little sister, older sister. I don't know. Do you
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: think that Erica looks a lot like Paige DeSorbo from
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Summer House?
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I don't... I'd have to look at her again because
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I don't see it.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's like.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's just like a dark hair, but a build,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: but also.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Kind of energy. The way that she... It's a little
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: bit of her vibe. She seems sharp. I really like
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: her a lot. What do you think of Erica?
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah. You know, I.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Couple things. One, did not expect with her not understanding
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: alternate street parking and that someone may not want to
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: spend money on a parking spot. I was blown to
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: pieces to hear that she was a WWE star.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: Unbelievable. I remember reading that and thinking, oh my gosh,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: and this is so adjacent to my world because Brett
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: is a huge wrestling fan, has been since he was
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: a tiny child. And so this is like, I have
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: to ask him if he knows who this is. I'm
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: sure he does. But like, that he loves wrestling. He
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: doesn't watch it anymore, obviously. There's no time for that.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: But because, I mean, like, whatever. You watch these shows,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: they're so long. But anyway, he was always into this.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: So I'm so curious to see.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: We've got to find out. That's, you might need to
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: take him, get him on camera for that one. You know,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: we might need a two camera testimonial. I'll put, I'll
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: put him in the cheater room confessional. Yeah, no, but
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: I thought she was great. You know, she, she seems
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: to fit that spot that I always like and need,
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: which is like a grounded person.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: So grounded. And, you know, she actually kind of trips
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: over her question because she's not sure if she's overstepping
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: the boundaries a little bit, you know, which is nice
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: that someone actually has a conscience.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Now, as far as that display of the, of the, um,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I am, I actually felt terrified that she shared that,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: that she's putting, oh my God, Amy, I mean, of all,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: everything we've seen, I'm like, I wish they cut that
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: out even though it's fabulous. It's hilarious.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: It's wonderful. But I can't believe they even left that in.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: I was upset because it's an invitation. I hate it
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: so much and I wish it didn't happen.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: She announced that her husband goes away all the time.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: All the time.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: She's left alone.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: She's left herself completely vulnerable. Like, I honestly.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Now, we understand that they, I mean, he's a billionaire.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: They probably live in the greatest building of all times. But, like,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: let's also remember Kim Kardashian.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Exactly. There's really no. There's no.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Always.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: There's always an inside job that's available.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: That's right. That's right.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: That's right. And it's so stupid. Yeah. It's really beyond stupid.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: And I can't imagine her husband being happy about this
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: at all because she said in her confessional, he doesn't
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: even know that I do this. He probably didn't even know.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: You know what? I thought of that and I'm like,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: even if they do move, it's like they know who
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: she is.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: It's so stupid. It's so upsetting. And I pray that
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: nothing happens. I pray hard. Now, do you– this built,
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: which he runs– Have you dropped into that at all?
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Her husband?
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: Built, B-I-L-T.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, I don't even know what that is.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I think that's what he runs, right?
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Her husband?
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Like this tech company or whatever? No, I
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: don't know anything about it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: I remember my niece telling me about it a couple
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: years ago.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, really? See, this is why, have you ever brought
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: it up on your podcast on how to be less old?
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think we've talked about built, but it's
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: something that I may bring up and look at based
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: on this episode. That's so interesting. Because I'm interested in it.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: She was saying back in the day, a couple of
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: years ago, that there is a new platform built where
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: your mortgage, your rent and your mortgage and things that
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: you pay for can get calculated into points. So it's
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: some sort of points. May I take a look, Amy,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: really quick? Yeah, while you're looking.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: I just, if I could just. Yeah.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Look it up.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: So I wonder if it's like you sign, you create
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: an account in which you put all your money in
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: there and from there they pay out your bills to
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: certain places like mortgage, et cetera, so that you're putting
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: your money as.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: If it's a bank, but they're getting a cut of.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: It and they can grow their money. And then by
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: doing that, you get points for whatever that you're saying.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Like Yes. Right. So just like the quick, quick, quick
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: little answer here is like, what is the built app
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: do with built? You can earn points on rent payments,
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: build credit history and unlock a world of rewards from
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: travel to everyday redemption. So that's just like the quickie.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, maybe it's like a credit card kind of thing.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Like what is it? Is built an actual credit card?
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: It's an everyday spending card. Built credit cards can be
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: very rewarding. Earning points on rent is complicated though. So,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: you know what? I think it's a way, you know,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: points are, and our Bethany Frankel tried to tackle points
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: at one point in her journey of, you know, points
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: are the type of thing that are so complicated and
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: hard to, actually use and X, you know, they're just weird.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is, so this is maybe if it's
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: different than like credit card points, because it's more of
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: a checking account, you know, like you're not building up credit.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: You have to actually put, what I'm guessing is that
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: you have to actually put real money, real money in
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: there because you're using them since it's an app.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: So yeah.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: And how these points work, How are they making money?
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: What are you benefiting from? Yeah.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: And there'll be a howtobelessold.substack.com post on Built sooner in
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: the next week or so because I will look into it.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: And I'm curious.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: That'll be like the companion piece to this podcast. This
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: will be a companion piece.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: But wow. Seems like it's doing quite well.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Well, if he's a billionaire and you know, I just
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: assume that this is one of many, many things that
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: he has.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: But if this is the thing that really took off,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: then yeah, that's great. You know what also takes off?
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Great point. Yeah. Taco Bell walkthrough.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Haley. Haley was at... I didn't realize it was a
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Taco Bell walkthrough. I rewound it because... I thought it
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: was so cute how she was like, I'm driving away, beep, beep.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: And I wanted to see that again. And I wanted
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: to see like what she was holding. And then I'm like,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: oh my God, it's Taco Bell.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Which goes perfectly with her brand, you know?
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: It does. Yeah.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: So that was funny.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, getting back to Erica and her
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: story is so interesting about like, you know, being raised
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: in Waco and knowing what we know about Waco and
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: of course, Waco, Texas is also the home of like
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Chip and Joanna Gaines, the Magnolia founders who I love.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Come through. Yes, ma'am. Then also her, you know, moving
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: to New York.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Or becoming, doing WWE, incredible. Then moving to New York
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: and working at these, like creating these programs for these
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: gyms is such an incredible niche.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Yes. It's cool.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: But getting Haley and Daisy at this knockout class was
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: like some of the greatest montage work that we'll be
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: reflecting on for years to come.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. They're just not... That's not their area,
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: you know?
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I can't believe they even made it through. I was like,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: good for them. I would have died. I was so
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: impressed that they even stayed in there. I mean, it
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: looked painful for Haley to even take off her sunglasses
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: at the beginning. I thought her eyes were going to
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: burn off.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not. I would think that Daisy would, she
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: looks like she works out like a beast. Like she,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: you know, Haley looks like she's, surviving on cigarettes and
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: rollerblades and rollerblades and no food in that fridge, like fumes,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: you know, literal fumes, but Daisy looks healthy and strong,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: you know, um, but not their area.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I loved it.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: It was really good.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Daisy, can I just ask you a question? Okay,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: so Daisy and Eugene, I loved hearing them talk about,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: you know, their relationship and how Eugene has to kind
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: of look out for her in terms of leaving things
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: on and doing things and then the schedule and all
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: this stuff. Calling and asking, like, did you turn all
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: the electricity off? Killed me.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, I thought it was very funny.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Triggering for me. Oh, really? Okay.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Have you had that?
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: No, I don't have that.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: See, I've had multiple men do this to me, including
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: my husband. And he's not bad, but it triggered me, literally.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I was like.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I could see how that would be triggering to a
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: lot of people.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: But let me ask you this.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: You don't deserve that. But what if you really are
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: that flighty and you have left the burners on before?
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: And you have left things. Yeah, it's not great.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: You know, it's not great. You know, like, listen, who,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: you know, do you love it?
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: No.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: That said, it just becomes like, for instance, okay. My
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: husband came back from the sea last night. I knew it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: I so knew I, we just got, I mean, we
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: just got a Bissell cross wave. Best product. Okay.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Okay. We are going to have to download about this
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: on the side.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Because this may be the best thing.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I like to talk about vacuums way too much.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Okay. This might be, this feels very important, but I
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: did the instructions and I undid everything, but I have
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: it in the garage. I took everything apart. I was worried,
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: not that I was in any danger of hitting it
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: on my exit, but I was in my head, like,
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: what if I hit a part? So I came in
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: crazy on my entrance and my parking in our garage.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: It was like... I knew it. I said to myself, Deanna,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Wing is coming home tonight.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Dad's coming back.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: He's going to be pissed. Just straighten up that car, okay?
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Because you're going to... Not only... not only did he
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: not come through the front door and made his way
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: around through the garage, but I happened to be in
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: the garage. I knew he was coming.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, you can hear him coming. I, well, I saw
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: on the app, like he was lifting back. This was
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: like nine, nine o'clock at night.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: And the first goddamn thing out of his mouth is
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: what is going on with this parking? Now it wasn't,
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: it's a fair question. Cause it was chaotic.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: But, You are, you've been out.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: But, you know, he knows you. Yeah.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: And also, like, now don't start Zooming. Like, everything's perfect.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: I made you dinner.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Everything's as clean as a whistle.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, let's see that. Oh, you are, like, so organized
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: on top of everything. I made it good.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not, but like... You made it nice.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I made it nice. I literally.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Dorinda.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, yeah.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: And now the first thing that your eyeball is landing
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: on is this chaotic parking. And if I allowed it,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: he could heighten to this. Yeah, right. So I keep
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: it in check because I'm like, it's very... triggering for me.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: Cause I had a guy who did that to me heavy,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: you know, and I don't like it. And by the way,
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: because it becomes like their eye is set to fine flaw.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: That's what their eye is set to.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't like that at all. Now that we're
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: talking about it, I don't like that one damn bit.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: However, I will say this.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: If you are going to put a goblet of red
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: wine And leave it on the corner of that coffee table.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: You got another thing coming with me. Because that's just
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: reckless behavior. And I have never understood people who leave
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: their glass like that. And case in point, my husband. Okay.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: So you are the, you are him. You are.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Only in that. But only, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Only in that situation.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Only. Only goblets of wine?
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: And no, no. Very specific. Drinks on the edge of
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: a table make no sense to me.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Why? So much surface area. Why?
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: It will get knocked off immediately. Immediately.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: There's no chance of anything else but for it to
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: get knocked off. Oh, wait.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: I'm picking up that you do that. Do you put
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: it on there? No.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: I don't think I'd do that. No. But first of all,
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: there's always going to be a coaster and it's never
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: going to be on the side. Like it's not.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: So you are on my side when it comes to that, right?
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: It was insane. It was insane.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: But that's it. That is it.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: I would not, I don't care about the parking. I
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: don't care about any of that. I'm never going to nitpick.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Trust and believe. I'm a macro person. I am not
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: a real retentive. I just don't have the wherewithal. So
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I'm all, you know, as Kelly Bensimon would say, free
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: to be you and me. But when I saw that
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: glass at the end of the table, I thought, this
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: is really tricky.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And she may... Listen, we saw... I clocked it
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: with how she was conducting herself with maitre d' at
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: the restaurant. I said....
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: And let's discuss the tutor. I mean, this is like nuts.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: The first... Bloop was the maitre d' where I was like, oh,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I see you. You are getting a lot of feedback
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: and attention and yes, ending this exchange here.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: So is this Eugene's way of trying to have some
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: sort of control over her because she is so relaxed?
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Very relaxed. I mean, what are we doing with this tutor?
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: When you see typed out, you make me feel like
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: I'm 12 again.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: That is disturbing.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Erase the phone. You know what I'm saying? Throw it
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: in the Hudson because we're done. Okay. We are so done.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Like something has gone so terribly wrong in this exchange.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: And like, I do not want to be called into
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: the court system. Ma'am.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Take your son to Kumon, okay? You're not having a
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: personal tutor come over here after hours when you're drinking
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: out of that goblet that's on the edge of the
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: cocktail table, okay? I think they slept together. I'll say it.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: I think something happened. No, I'm kidding.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: I actually really don't.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I just think that she likes the attention. but I
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: am shocked that she shared that with the table.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: That's how loose she is. That she didn't even know that, that,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: that everyone's going to look at her sideways.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, Jaisal is the only person who was like,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: So what did you do to make him feel like
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: he could send you a message like that? And I
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: was like, well, thank you. I mean.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But everyone was eyes wide.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right. Aaron couldn't even speak. And that says
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: a lot. But she'll talk about it to someone else,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I'm sure.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: She is so, talk about like when Alex said you're
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: in high school and I'm in Brooklyn, like Erin is
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: in high school. Like she is such the popular mean
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: girl and I can't help but keep my eyes on
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: her and I find her incredibly watchable, but she is
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: high school.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: It's wild to, I finally embraced that, you know, because
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: I want to think otherwise, but there's no way around it.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: You know, now we've known her for several seasons and
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: this is like who she is. And I sort of
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: now look at her like, wow, so that's what's going
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: on in there. Like, you're just going to just be
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: so backstabbing and insincere and dirty.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: It's fun. It's like fun for her. Like that's her personality.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Like that's what she
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: thinks is I really genuinely think she's of the opinion
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: that that's friendship. I swear to God.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Maybe. You know what?
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, wait.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: So she's got a bunch of brothers, right? I'm trying
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: to remember her dynamics. I think she has a bunch
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: of brothers.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's brothers. Okay.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: And then I know that her parents divorced when she
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: was younger.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: She's responsible for a lot.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think she's got even more brothers from
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: her father's other marriage. I think she's the only daughter.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: So I don't know how.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: That informs the situation. It does.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Part of me was like thinking, oh, does she come
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: from a bunch of sisters? Because maybe that's where she
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: gets it. Just playing loose with like the things that
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: you say about your sisters talking trash, blah, blah, blah.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: But Kyle's not like that. So I don't know what
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: it is, but like she must not feel like she got.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: I know what it is. What is it? Erin has been.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: You're from. I'm sorry.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: You've got two sisters.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: I have two sisters. I'm not leaning into the sisters
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: quite as much, but I do think the brothers thing
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: is gives her like sort of that tougher edge of like,
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: You know, we play a little harder, like, with emotions. Like,
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: she's not... Not afraid to say shit. And she's not
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: sensitive about... Right.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: And, like, move on.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: Move on. Like, boom. But Erin, I believe, has always
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: been hot. I think she's always been... I'm going to
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: say popular, which is not a word I give for adults,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: but I have to give it to her because... Well,
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: she said so. She's got a ton of friends. But, like,
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: she's a popular rich girl... who was in, always thought
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: who she was, always got what she wanted. And she
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: lives that high school hierarchy mentally. Like I genuinely, where
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: most people leave their high school hierarchy in their mind,
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: you know, well, if you're, yeah, but I'm sorry, go ahead.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Bye there.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: No, like by the time you're out of college, you're
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: like starting to move out of whatever that was. You're,
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: you know, wherever you were in it, you're releasing that concept.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: Not Erin. No. You know, Erin has held to like,
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: I see her as like a sophomore in high school running,
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: running game. And yeah, that's just like where her head is.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: And she's got.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: No subtleties with it at all, which is kind of
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: explains maybe the brother thing, why she can just turn
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: around and just be like, oh, Jessel's such a clout chaser.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Two seconds after she, they both apologized. And I mean,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: we haven't seen that kind of a turnstile in a while. So,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, I thought, wow, this is pretty impressive.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: This is who she is.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: And she's not ashamed to be that, which is interesting. Yeah.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: I also still so crave, like it was horrible to
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: see her house. That like was so upsetting. I really
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: felt for them. Their house was gorgeous. Like it's so
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: lovely and pretty and just to have that. But like
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: the second she was one, the contractor's name who was there,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: the guy who was sort of, yeah. The second she
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: got out of the car and she was like, hey Juan,
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: the energy, just the connection they have. Clearly she's worked
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: with him before, probably on projects. I am so dying
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: to see Erin do her job. Is she still doing
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: her job? Like, does she still? Great question.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I would think that she wouldn't even
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: have time to do that anymore.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: But what do I know? I feel like we don't
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: get to see the people do like that to me.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like, that's the Erin I want to see in action.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: I want to see her running a crew, talking about
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: what needs to be done in a space, making sure
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: we're on time.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great point because- When she joined the Housewives,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: it's almost like she really was starting to not do
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: that anymore because she was, I think, spending more time
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: just like raising her kids.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, she's busy enough as it is. But I
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: think maybe it shifted. Maybe she was doing that job.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: But then once she got Housewives, she sort of started
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: to parse off some of the jobs and then was like,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: I can't do Housewives anymore. And take care of my family.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: She's had a year and a half off.
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: She's had a year and a half.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't get too settled in.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: And maybe the job just became her projects and what
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: she was doing for herself. But that's a great idea.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: That's the thing that we love about New York. Probably above, well,
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, they started it. I mean, well, let's just
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: put it where it begins. Vicki Gundelson started it. Thank you.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: And selling insurance. So let's put some respect on the OG.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: And then when New York picked up, I mean, it's like,
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: it was so great to see Ramona behind a desk. Yes.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: And Bethany was skinny girl. True religion.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: True religion.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Jill.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Right? Oh, yeah.
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: Jill on the carpet.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: True. Yeah.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: No, wait.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Not true. True faith. True faith.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: True faith. True religion is the genes. Okay. You know what?
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I used to work with true religion because I love snaps.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: And I love seams, okay? And I love really jazzy
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: pockets in the back that are too big.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: To sit on.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Ramona. Sorry for the mistake.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Sure, okay.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: You know what? Oh, my God. That's so funny.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, but all of that, like, I think it's such
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: a miscalculation to not give us that anymore because it
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: is so rounding.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: And by the way, it's not because... Andy doesn't want it.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Andy wants that more than anything because he has said that.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: He likes to see women doing their jobs, doing their work.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: And he has said, once you become a housewife and
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: you stop doing the thing that we found interesting, which
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: is one of the reasons why we cast you, then
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: that becomes you living in this vacuum of just being
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: a housewife. And that is something that people do not
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: want to watch. And that is exactly what we're saying now,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: which is... The whole point, why we are interested in
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: women is we want to see their hustle.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: We want to see their lives.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: And if it's just them launching a product that they
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: just came up with out of thin air because they're
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: a housewife, that's boring to us. I don't want to
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: watch someone be a housewife as a career. I want
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: to watch a woman have a career but be a housewife.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: And there's going to be plenty who are housewives for
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: housewives' sake. So it's like, just if you're not, let
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: us see that, you know? I mean, when Wendy over
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: in Potomac started to like not teach as much or
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: not do law as much, and then she changed and
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: she was like, I'm doing candles. I was like, what
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: are you doing? She is the perfect example of what
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: can go wrong when you become a housewife. Yeah.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: So, and so many others, but she's a perfect example
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: that I remember feeling the sting of that.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Well, listen, sorry, Vicky, for being pissed that you're on
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: your computer during Ultimate Girls Trip, because you know what?
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Sit on your computer. We've asked for it. Thank you.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: You're doing it.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, Vicky.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Just do what you have to do and work it in, babe. Okay?
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Did you say work? Thank you. I got to go.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Well, let me see if there's anything else that we
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: haven't discussed. Oh, that $ 1, 200 bottle of wine that Daisy
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: wanted opened.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: Early, which, wow, damn.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Holy smokes. Damn. Haley smoking weed before she got there.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Love it. Nug. I never heard. I mean, I'm not
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: a weed person, but Nug was new for me.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I've I don't I feel like
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: I've heard it, but it's not in my vernacular. Now,
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: there was something else that Haley did.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: What was it?
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, what did Haley call out Aaron for at the lunch? Oh,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: for she called Aaron for the titty. thing oh yeah
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: and told Allison which is really messed that messed up
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: their like relationship for a second and Erin's like oh
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: is this a pylon and I was like actually she
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: was very kind about how she said it and she
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: kind of like stepped back and was like no it's
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: not and I thought you have a real reason to
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: be pissed off at her because like what are you
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: doing running your mouth like that it's Clearly she's in
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: a relationship with this person and it affected it. I
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: did not like that. And I resented that Aaron was like, oh,
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: it's a pylon.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, that sucked. Meanwhile, I did enjoy her calling
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: her like the jam that's on the diner table.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, was that not great?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: That's so good. It's just sitting there. I mean, she
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: read Erin down on that one. Like, ooh.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: That's going to sting when she sees that in the confessional.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Or whenever she said that.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Last night, maybe, she saw it. And I know that
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: Erin's going to be, her and Abe are going to
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: have to really, they look so much alike. I don't
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: know if I ever realized how similar they looked. Like,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: when they were leaving the party, I was like, You
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: guys could be siblings. Oh, Lord.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't notice that. But well, Haley is doing
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: a great job of shedding that the anticipation I had
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: of being completely underwhelmed by her because of the John
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Gosselin ties. I'm not.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: I'm delighted.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: And that's far behind me. And I'm happy that we're here.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: And I love this little stoner on our screens.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Me too.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: Me too.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Finding out that Psy doesn't have a prenup is just
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: very concerning. Very concerning.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: And I didn't expect that.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: I want to know more about like the nuts and
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: bolts of what's gone down between them. We know so
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: little about him, you know. Yeah. He offended Uba. Yeah.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: One season, I remember, at a party.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: And I thought he did a decent job, like, apologizing,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: you know? But that's all I have on him. Like,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: it's so minimal. Yeah.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: It'll be wild to see. Oh, and I don't think
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: that we mentioned this, that Carol's book, What Remains, hit
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: the bestseller list. And she was back on the bestseller list,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: which is, like, wow.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's... That's a wow.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: 20 years. And I love that she was like, it
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be there if it weren't for Love Story. And
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: that says a lot. She can hand it over. And
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: that's what I appreciate about people who they can give
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: credit where credit is due. So Deanna Chang, can you
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: tell people where to start following your cult and your leadership, please?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: Head on over to howtobelessold.substack.com. Because I will get to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: the bottom of built. If you are a built member,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: if you have used the service, whatever it is, please
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: let me know. Hit me up at Deanna M. Chang
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: on Insta and let me know what you're doing. I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: would like to get some boots on the ground and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: let's get down to it. And then we'll join the
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: cult and then we'll take over.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: And then we'll take over.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah. Built.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Count me in.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: Substack built. Drama darling. Take over. And I'm already a subscriber,
• 1:03:06
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• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:03:07
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• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Please enjoy these rolling credits. These are all of my patrons.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Aren't they amazing?
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. That is amazing.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's like an embarrassment of riches.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Look at that.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: There's the gorgeous darlings. I have deluxe darlings. Thank you
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: guys for listening. I love you so much. Hallelujah.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.