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Hollywood boss Harvey Weinstein FBI probe and behind the scenes on Hallmark movie thriller, 'Dating is Murder' · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: February two thousand four, Maura Murray empties her bank account,
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  Speaker 1: drives four hours from school, crashes her car, and vanishes.
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  Speaker 1: Sirius XM Triumph Channel one thirty two. You Know the
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  Speaker 1: Films Shakespeare and Love, Goodwill, Hunting, Silver Linings, Playbook, The
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  Speaker 1: Man Behind Them. Legendary Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein after multiple
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  Speaker 1: sexual harassment allegations, movie mogul Harvey Weinstein has been forced
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  Speaker 1: out of his own company. His movies have won a
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  Speaker 1: total of seventy five oscars. Eight women, including actress Actually Joe,
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  Speaker 1: came forward to accused Winstine of sexual misconduct. At the
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  Speaker 1: Times uncovered sexual harassment allegations that span almost three decades.
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  Speaker 1: The film executive and announced plans to take a quote
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  Speaker 1: leave of absence on the Famous Guys being very incomfortable
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  Speaker 1: right now, coming now and one minute and if you
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  Speaker 1: want to leave when the guy comes from gretry used today,
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  Speaker 1: you're used to that to Hollywood. As the number of
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  Speaker 1: alleged sex victims of Harvey Weinstein pile up, he claims
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  Speaker 1: he was going to rehab and Europe. Well, he emerged
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  Speaker 1: just a few hours ago giving the finger at reporters.
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  Speaker 1: And he was not in Europe in rehab. He wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even in rehab. He was laxon on the strip in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 1: All hold up in the Peninsula Hotel, one of the
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  Speaker 1: most luxurious spots in our country. Yeah, that doesn't sound
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  Speaker 1: like rehab to me. Joining me right now is the
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  Speaker 1: net Soca investigative reporter, the founder of Women for One,
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  Speaker 1: sex abuse victim advocate Kelly mcnellis well known psychologists out
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  Speaker 1: of New York. Here and Stark and Joseph Scott Morgan
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  Speaker 1: forensics expert. Straight to you, Ninette Sosa, I now understand
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  Speaker 1: that there is an FBI probe of Harvey Weinstein. The
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  Speaker 1: numbers are piling up. What's happening? The numbers are piling up,
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  Speaker 1: Nancy with allegations of sexual abuse and assault from Harvey Weinstein,
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  Speaker 1: the Hollywood producer, so much so that it includes a
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  Speaker 1: French actress, a British actress, even a girl from design
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  Speaker 1: school slash waitress aspiring actress. So along with the big
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  Speaker 1: names Angelina Jolie and Gwyneth Palto et cetera, with allegations
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  Speaker 1: of having been per se um abused or the emans
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  Speaker 1: from this Hollywood producer. Um, I'm gonna roll in with
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, who is quoted as saying I've known him
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  Speaker 1: for years. I'm not surprised. And this is an FBI
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  Speaker 1: investigation now at the request of the Department of Justice.
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  Speaker 1: Mind you, that's run by a G. Jeff Session, so
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  Speaker 1: it's not too far from the White House. And because
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  Speaker 1: of that I mentioned Donald Trump and hence this FBI
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  Speaker 1: investigation that is now happening. I'm glad to hear it.
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  Speaker 1: And I keep politics out of crime because to me,
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  Speaker 1: crime does not need to be politicized. It as across
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  Speaker 1: the board's Democrats, Republicans, Greens, independents, you name it. Crime
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  Speaker 1: effects everyone. And you can look at this list of women.
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  Speaker 1: Look at them. Some are famous, like Gwyneth Paltrow, who
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  Speaker 1: apparently tried to out him over a decade ago when
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  Speaker 1: he harassed her sexually but now there are rape allegations
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  Speaker 1: piling up. In an article by Ronan Pharaoh, it outlines
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  Speaker 1: three different women that we know of right now. They're
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  Speaker 1: not claiming, hey, he wanted me to give him a
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  Speaker 1: massage in order to get a movie role. They're claiming
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  Speaker 1: outright rape of this guy on this guy. So what
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  Speaker 1: is the truth? These are still allegations, nothing has been
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  Speaker 1: proven in court. But when you bring in the FBI. Look,
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to wake up in the morning, as
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  Speaker 1: I always say, Alan, do look out your kitchen window
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  Speaker 1: and see the FBI picking through your trash. Okay, that's
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  Speaker 1: not a good sign. When the FBI is on your tail,
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  Speaker 1: you're in trouble. Duke. Yeah, I keep my window open
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  Speaker 1: for that. You better keep your eye out for that.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what, power to the FBI because when
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  Speaker 1: this was handed on a silver platter, Kelly mcnallis, as
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  Speaker 1: my father always said, Hey, it was sitting on the
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  Speaker 1: Christmas tree, so to pick it up? Why p D
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  Speaker 1: the New York Police Department. A woman comes racing to
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  Speaker 1: them after he tries to sexually attack her all beside herself.
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  Speaker 1: They wire her and she goes and catches Weinstein on
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  Speaker 1: tape and they think they've got a case, and then
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  Speaker 1: they sent it to the d A and nothing happens.
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  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact. Keilly mcnellis founder of Women
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  Speaker 1: for One, sex abuse victim advocate. Listen to Harvey Weinstein
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  Speaker 1: on secret tape. What do we have to do here?
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna till you shower. You sit there and have
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  Speaker 1: a drink, drink, and I stayed on the bar. You
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  Speaker 1: must come here now anything. I'm sorry, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday was a kind of aggressive for it. I need
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  Speaker 1: to know a person because a thing I don't think. Please,
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  Speaker 1: I swear I won't just sit with me. Don't embarrass
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  Speaker 1: me in the hotel. I'm here all the time. The
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  Speaker 1: can here. Listen to me. I want to go downstairs.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do anything. You will never see me.
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  Speaker 1: An inhabit this if you if you embarrassed me in
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  Speaker 1: this hotel, I'm not embarrassing you. It's just that I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't feel comfortable. I mean, you don't have
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  Speaker 1: a fact with me before. Please, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: do anything. I swear my children. Please come in on everything.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a famous guy. You're being very comfortable. Just come
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  Speaker 1: in now and one minute and if you want to
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  Speaker 1: leave when the guy comes with my life us today
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  Speaker 1: you touch my brace please, I'm sorry. Just come on,
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  Speaker 1: I'm used to that. Are You're used to that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not used to that again. If you're everbid,
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  Speaker 1: please no, I don't want to get this now, you're
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  Speaker 1: embarrass You'll call me again praying I'm sorry. Right, anyone
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  Speaker 1: do anything? I know, but I'm I will never do
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  Speaker 1: another thing to you five minutes. Don't love your friendship
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  Speaker 1: with me for five minutes. I know, but it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like it's so much for me. Please you're making
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  Speaker 1: a big scene here, but I want to Kelly mcnellis.
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  Speaker 1: Thank god the FBI is on it because the NYPD
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  Speaker 1: did do squat. This is all about power and silencing women,
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  Speaker 1: and women have been silenced for years, and that's why
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  Speaker 1: I created Women for One, so women could find their
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  Speaker 1: voices and speak out. Finally, Nancy, because I am sick
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  Speaker 1: and tired of it. To be honest, I gotta tell
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  Speaker 1: you something, Kelly. I'm with you. Kelly mcnelli's joining me
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  Speaker 1: along with Karen Starting and it's Sosa and Joe Scott Morgan.
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  Speaker 1: Kelly Um, I'm not sure the psychopathy the thinking behind
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  Speaker 1: women that don't speak out about sex attack. But I
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  Speaker 1: know many of them very personally that have never come forward.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know why, but that's the way that
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  Speaker 1: many women feel. And I think about these women that
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  Speaker 1: needed job. I'm not talking about Angelina, Joe Lie, Gwyneth Paltra, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about the assistant, the receptionist, the aspiring model,
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  Speaker 1: the aspiring actress who has started us in their eyes
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  Speaker 1: and they meet Weinstein and this is what happens. He
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  Speaker 1: comes out of the bathroom naked with an erection. Uh No,
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  Speaker 1: that right there is a crime. That right there, if true,
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  Speaker 1: is a crime. And for all these years, nobody did
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  Speaker 1: a darn thing about it. Power to the FBI. I
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  Speaker 1: want to just jump in with the It was the
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  Speaker 1: Italian model. Her name is Amber Butt Buddy Lana Gutrez.
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  Speaker 1: She's the one who said Harvey had put his hand
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  Speaker 1: up her skirt during a business meeting. She was wired.
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  Speaker 1: Then later, uh, these charges were dropped. Um, her would
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  Speaker 1: she charged with anyway? The police dropped those charges. But
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  Speaker 1: what's interesting it was dropped by the Manhattan District Attorney's
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  Speaker 1: office Cyrus Advance. Months later, a wine Stein attorney donates
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  Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars to Cyrus Advances reelection campaign. There you go.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if that was the payoff
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  Speaker 1: the ten thousand dollars for the charges to get dropped,
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  Speaker 1: or how that all uh, you know, comes together, but
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  Speaker 1: there was definitely a campaign donation to this district attorney
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  Speaker 1: months later after the charges were dropped. It's all that,
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  Speaker 1: old boys. This is what I learned. Juice Goot Morgan,
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  Speaker 1: Death's an investigator and forensics expert. When you are district
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  Speaker 1: attorney and assistant district attorney a judge. When you are
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  Speaker 1: in that position, I wouldcall it very well. You must
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  Speaker 1: avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Those are the ethical
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  Speaker 1: rules on lawyers in public service. And I'll tell you why.
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  Speaker 1: You can't even have it look like you do something wrong,
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  Speaker 1: whether you do or not. And the reason is because
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  Speaker 1: the public we'll lose faith in the system. It's you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's how revolutions and uprisings occur when the system breaks down.
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  Speaker 1: When nobody believes in the system. Anymore people tear the
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  Speaker 1: system down, there will be no justice system. It invalidates
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  Speaker 1: the way to the office. And you know, we've seen
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  Speaker 1: this play out over and over again in the media
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  Speaker 1: with with corruption uh in various departments, and not not
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  Speaker 1: just how it appears in the media, but just how
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  Speaker 1: it appears to the victims that you're supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: serving and that you're supposed to be representing. Now, how
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  Speaker 1: to moralizing? How to humanizing? Is it if you're a
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  Speaker 1: young lady who has been violated by someone and you're
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  Speaker 1: this lone you seem to be this lone voice crying
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  Speaker 1: in the wilderness, help me. It's a horrible, horrible fear.
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  Speaker 1: And then and then you you don't receive any health
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  Speaker 1: and your people are laughing at I want to tell
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  Speaker 1: you something about a judge. It was not my judge
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  Speaker 1: that I was in front off for so many years,
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  Speaker 1: Luther Alverson. This was another judge, Don Langham, and um,
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  Speaker 1: I'll never forget. It was my very first major drug case,
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  Speaker 1: major drug trafficking. And it was a really rich guy. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: he's the one that turned up many years later connected
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  Speaker 1: to O. J. Simpson. His name was Charles Erlick, Charlie Tuna.
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  Speaker 1: And I was sitting in court and have my little
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  Speaker 1: dress on you light as well. Know what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 1: That I ordered from Chadwick's for thirty nine dollars. It
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  Speaker 1: was um, let's see that one was black plain, neck
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  Speaker 1: down to the wrist, down to the knee. And I
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  Speaker 1: was sitting there and incomes the defense lawyer, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: never forget him. He was feared and revered all around
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  Speaker 1: Metro Atlanta. He was tall and imposing, like six ft three. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: highlight sent us here. And it was blond here back
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  Speaker 1: like brushed back, like Frazier. And he had on it
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  Speaker 1: had to be a three thousand dollar suit and beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: At the time. I had never even seen she was
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  Speaker 1: like this. They had a dull shine to them. And
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  Speaker 1: he had jewel encrusted cuff links. He was perfect. And
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  Speaker 1: he had on a coach slung over his shoulders like
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  Speaker 1: a cape. He was carrying nothing. And then he had
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  Speaker 1: all these little people running behind him that all their
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  Speaker 1: arms were full of stuff. And I took one look
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  Speaker 1: at him, and then he met with the judge behind
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  Speaker 1: chambers alone without me, which in many cases would be appropriate, inappropriate,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, dear Lord, he knows Langham, he
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  Speaker 1: knows the judge. What did he contribute to the campaign.
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  Speaker 1: What happened to their old friends. And I was just
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  Speaker 1: sitting there here alone at my table, surrounded by all
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  Speaker 1: my my research. I had my cocaine with me that
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  Speaker 1: had been seized, and my witness, my witness was a
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  Speaker 1: drunk uh lobby attendant. That was my witness and my
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  Speaker 1: cop and we were just the three of us, three
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  Speaker 1: little misfits sitting there. And the first thing that had
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  Speaker 1: to happen was a search issue. And if the search
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  Speaker 1: issue failed, If I lost the search and it didn't
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  Speaker 1: come into evidence, the case was over. This was without
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  Speaker 1: a jury. It was all on the judge. If the
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  Speaker 1: evidence was ruled out, the case would be over. And
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  Speaker 1: I just I was just sick. And guess what, Joe Scott,
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  Speaker 1: the judge ruled in my favor. He did not go
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  Speaker 1: along with his friend. I don't even know if they
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  Speaker 1: were friends, but it sure looked like it. And I
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  Speaker 1: want to have that core room believing in the justice system.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking about this woman. It goes up against
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  Speaker 1: Weinstein and agrees to wear a wire and then they
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  Speaker 1: drop They drop it. They never prosecute, they don't take
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  Speaker 1: it to a jury, they don't take it to a
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  Speaker 1: grand jury. It never even gets that for they just
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  Speaker 1: decide on their own. They're they're gonna let Weinstein go.
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  Speaker 1: Why it takes so much courage? Nancy, tip of the iceberg, Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that this is I believe that this is
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  Speaker 1: going to continue to go forward like this, and I
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  Speaker 1: think that there's going to be more and more. And
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  Speaker 1: there's so many layers of the scene. It covers so
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  Speaker 1: many years, Nancy, going back, and as people feel safe now,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna begin to peel this thing back. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that we we can even appreciate the full
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  Speaker 1: impact of this going forward. Well what about this, Karen Stark? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: we hear from Weinstein? He says every body deserves a
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  Speaker 1: second chance. I want I want another chance, and then
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  Speaker 1: he shoots a bird. Okay, did I get that wrong here?
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  Speaker 1: That says aggressiveness, and that makes him particularly vile, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: because you're talking about someone who is capable of rape,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to say something people don't they Everyone
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  Speaker 1: says why didn't they come forward at the time? And
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  Speaker 1: your story answers it speaks to that question, why don't
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  Speaker 1: women come forward? Because nobody wants to hear about it
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  Speaker 1: because it's this goes with the business. Doesn't everybody know
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  Speaker 1: this goes with the business. I want to tell you
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  Speaker 1: back in the late eighties, I used to teach women
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  Speaker 1: and I feel terrible saying this, but these were the facts.
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  Speaker 1: I would teach women how to very nicely turn down
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  Speaker 1: sexual overtures at work because women were in a bind.
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  Speaker 1: If their boss, someone above them came on to them,
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  Speaker 1: they had their job at risk, and so how could
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  Speaker 1: they cope with it? And what I would help them
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  Speaker 1: to do is to find a nice way to avoid
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  Speaker 1: the situation. Why are you saying there's some sorts wrong
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  Speaker 1: with that, because women are still in that position exactly.
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  Speaker 1: It's either they say no, they get fired and nobody
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  Speaker 1: believes them, they go to police. I mean, then they
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  Speaker 1: don't have a job. I mean, when you have people
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  Speaker 1: counting on you to bring home a paycheck, that's a
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  Speaker 1: whole different can of worms. You don't want to lose
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  Speaker 1: your job, but you don't want to submit to sex overturs. Karen,
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  Speaker 1: I hear you. Is it right? No, it's not right.
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  Speaker 1: Is it real? Yes? It is the stark reality. Also
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  Speaker 1: to Joseph Scott Morgan, forensics expert is there's no scientific evidence.
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  Speaker 1: Now there's nothing left of any of these claims. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: there's not. And and this is unless you know, we
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  Speaker 1: won't mention any names, but unless someone has retained something
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  Speaker 1: from the past that has some kind of bodily fluid on.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like the blue dress and Monica Lewinsky got it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you say that, uh, the real Hey, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with Nathan Lane the other day. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: love Nathan Lane so much. He came out, he was
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  Speaker 1: describing a an aggressive incident, according to him, with Weinstein
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  Speaker 1: years ago and goes, hey, I don't have a film career.
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  Speaker 1: I can say whatever I want to. I can speak
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  Speaker 1: the truth. And that's how I feel. Believe me. I
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  Speaker 1: don't have a film career, so I can say the
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  Speaker 1: truth as I see it. Yeah. Yeah, And going back, uh,
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  Speaker 1: relative to fiscal evidence, you know, one of the things
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  Speaker 1: that we based everything on in forensics is that every
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: contact leaves a trace. And this implies this applies to
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  Speaker 1: the physical evidence that you would find on an object.
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  Speaker 1: And it also goes to this and this is a sadder,
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  Speaker 1: a much sadder picture here. The trauma that was enforced
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  Speaker 1: are that was perpetrated rather on some unwilling person here
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  Speaker 1: where you would have trauma that could be actually examined.
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  Speaker 1: But I guarantee you there's a lot of people out
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  Speaker 1: there that are deeply scarred by this. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately forensics we we don't, we're not there to demonstrate that.
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  Speaker 1: It's very important to me that you hear what. Harvey Weinstein,
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  Speaker 1: the Hollywood big the biggest name in the industry, a
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  Speaker 1: head of Mira Max. They had the Weinstein Company, the creator,
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  Speaker 1: the producer of movies like pulp fiction, sex, lies and
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  Speaker 1: videotape Shakespeare in Love. I mean, it goes on and
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  Speaker 1: on and on, But what about these voices? Ellen Jukes,
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  Speaker 1: who in a nutshell, what does Laurence savon? He's a
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  Speaker 1: television reporter out of Los Angeles, She says. Several years
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  Speaker 1: ago she met Weinstein at an event at a restaurant
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  Speaker 1: that he was a partial owner to. He invited her
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  Speaker 1: down into the kitchen. She says. When they went into
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen, he asked everybody to leave, and then he
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  Speaker 1: blocked the door, her only way out. He's a big man.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: She was five ft two and started pleasuring himself and
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: insisted that she watched. And she kept quiet about it
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: for years, although she didn't tell people. Okay, you know what,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: let's listen to Laurence savan in her own words, as
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: much as I enjoy hearing you recount it, Alan, let's
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: listen to Laurence Savon. I had no idea what was
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: going to happen, and it happened very quickly, and he
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: immediately um exposed himself and you know, began pleasuring himself.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: And I've just stood there, dumbfounded. What are you thinking?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: In this moment? I was so shocked. I could not
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: believe what I was witnessing. Could not believe what I
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: was witnessing. It was disgusting and and kind of pathetic.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Take a listen to another alleged weine scene victim Lusett Guys.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Harvey then offered to reconvene the meeting in his office,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: which was adjacent to his hotel room. Obviously, I was hesitant.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I had heard some stories previously about Harvey's behavior with women.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: So there was a hotel security camera right above us,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: and I said to him, I will take this eating
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: with you if you will shake my hand. That you
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: will not touch me, and he shook my hand and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: kind of laughed it off. We went to his office
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and we had a great conversation about his current film
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: and the film that I was pitching. He seemed genuinely
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: interested and I was excited. After about thirty minutes, he
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: asked to excuse himself and go to the bathroom. He
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: returned in nothing but a robe with the front open,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and he was buck naked. He told me to keep
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: talking about my film and that he was going to
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: hop into his hot tub that was adjacent to the room,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: just steps away. When I finished my pitch, I was
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: obviously nervous, and he just kept asking me to watch
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: him masturbate. I told him I was leaving. He quickly
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: got it out of the tub and grabbed my forearm
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: as I was trying to grab my purse, and he
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: led me to his bathroom, pleading that I just watched
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: him masturbate. My heart was racing and I was very scared.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I pulled my arm away finally and headed to the door.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: He started following me and telling me that he could
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: introduce me to Bob Wine scene and then I could
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: get a three picture deal, and that he would green
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: light my script, but I had to watch him masturbate.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: And now enter lawyer to the stars Gloria. All right,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: now this is somebody you don't want to tangle with.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I know Gloria very very well, and let me tell
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you a little story. Karen Stark Um, I remember during
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the Scott Peterson case and meeting many others. But during
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Scott Peterson, I would be there all day in court.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Then I do a court TV program. Then I would
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: stay for Larry King. Uh. It would be really late
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: at night by by that time, and it would be
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: getting on ten o'clock at night. Finally the court room
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: had been there at seven in the morning, Gloria alread
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: will be standing there in her awesome St. John's suit
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: with two cell phones, working, working ten o'clock at night.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: She like wave with her elbow and keep working. Okay,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: She's is not sitting back as a you know, celebrity lawyer.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: She's working. And you know Kelly mcnella sex abuse victim,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: advocate and founder of Women For One. Why is someone
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: like Gloria so important right now? You know, we all
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: as women right now need to speak up. It is
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: it takes so much courage, Nancy. You know me from
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: personal experience with being abused by my father when I
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: was younger, and then by men in college. I feel
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: like we just shut down our voices because we're terrified. So,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: like you spoke about that other woman that wore that wire,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: do you know how much courage that takes the average
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: woman with all power put on her from society. And
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: then I just have so much respect for someone that
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: can do that. It's so important. Well, let's take a
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: listen to Gloria already. Remember the New York Police Department
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: got this guy on a wire, and then the d
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: A did nothing. Okay, at least Alread is standing up
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: for the victims, all right. Whether you like her or don't,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: she's not afraid to take on Harvey Weinstein. That's a
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: big deal, List Gloria Alread. Harvey then offered to reconvene
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the meeting in his office, which was adjacent to his
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: hotel room. Obviously, I was hesitant. I had heard some
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: stories previously about Harvey's behavior with women. So there was
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: a hotel security camera right above us, and I said
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: to him, I will take this meeting with you if
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: you will shake my hand. That you will not touch me,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: and he shook my hand and kind of laughed it off.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: We went to his office and we had a great
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: conversation about his current film and the film that I
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: was kitching. He seemed genuinely interested and I was excited.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: After about thirty minutes, he asked to excuse himself and
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: go to the bathroom. He returned in nothing but a
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: robe with the front open, and he was buck naked.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: He told me to keep talking about my film and
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: that he was going to hop into his hot tub
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: that was adjacent to the room, just steps away. When
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I finished my pitch, I was obviously nervous, and he
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: just kept asking me to watch him masturbate. I told
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: him I was leaving. He quickly got it out of
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the tub and grabbed my forearm as I was trying
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to grab my purse, and he led me to his bathroom,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: pleading that I just watched him masturbate. My heart was
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: racing and I was very scared. I pulled my arm
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: away finally and headed to the door. He started following
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: me and telling me that he could introduce me to
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Bob Weinstein and then I could get a three picture deal,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and that he would green light my script, but I
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: had to watch him masturbate back to Alan Deep joining
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: me out of l A Um. This whole thing is
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: sending shot waves through the l A community. I'm not
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: really worried about the l A community. What do you
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: make of a call from Weinstein's daughter in the last
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: hours climbing her father is suicidal. Then he turns up
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: shooting birds at people and asking for a second chance.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: And he lied about going to rehab in Europe. He's
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: been snugged up at the Peninsula. You want to describe
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: the Peninsula Hotel for everybody that hasn't had the advantage
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: to stay in one of their luxury suites. What about it? Alan?
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: What is it? It's in Beverly Hills. It is where
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the real elite go to meet. I've been there for
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: some meetings and I can tell you it's very high class.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: But it was his favorite place. It seems he camped
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: out there. The problem this week though, when Harvey Weinstein
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: was talking with his daughter at her home, they got
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: into an argument and it was so loud that somebody
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: called police. Somebody thought that there might be a suicide
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: threat there, but the daughter denies it and says they
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: were just arguing, but Weinstein was so anxious to leave
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: he jumped into a random card, not an uber, not
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: a limo, not somebody he knew. He flagged down somebody
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: he didn't know, jumped in the car and asked for
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a ride to get away. Oh no, I'm looking at
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Peninsula Hotel. Um. Okay, if you get a good deal,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: like a discount, it's seven about six hundred and sixty
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: seven dollars per rim talking about seven hundred dollars a
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: room for one night. And that's if you get a deal.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: If you get a discount to have an afternoon tea.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: There an afternoon tea, it's around a hundred dollars for
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: tea tea. Okay, yeah, you get a choice of nineteen
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: different loose leaf teas. But that's pretty price e huh
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: about a hundred bucks. Can you help me out here, Allen?
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Why does it cost so much? And that's where Weinstein
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: is all snugged up. This is pretty much the most
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: one of the most exclusive they've opened up. You know, uh,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the wilsh Well, there's the Beverly will Shure, there's the
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Waldoff a story that's now across the street. From it.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: But I'm looking on price line and this is where
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I'm cheap enough. I order on price line. If I
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: wanted a room, it would be six only one room left,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: it says, if I wanted to book it right now.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: So that's the re have care and Stark, that's where
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: he is. He lied and then shot the bird and
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: everybody that asked why he wasn't in rehab. He's in Hollywood.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: He's he is used to power. Nancy, I don't see
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: this guy going into rehab because he felt like he
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: was entitled to be able to come onto these women,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: to rape these women. He was in a position of power.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: They were vulnerable, and Hollywood is known for that people
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: turn a blind eye. If this can stop, it would
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: be a miracle because women have always been taken advantage
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: in these kind of situations. No net, says an investigative reporter.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: There's now word that this guy who if he were
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: anybody else and these allegations were true, he'd be being
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: he'd be tried for rape or sex assault if these
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: allegations are true. Instead, there's word he's going to a
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: rehab in Arizona. Not what do you make of it? Well,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: he switched from going to an international rehab now to
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Arizona Treatment for sex addiction Meadows Rehab as a matter
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: of fact, and they do have a forty five day
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: program there that's gentle path program. So he would be
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: dealing with equine therapy, ar't yoga and some counseling for
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: his sex addiction. Equine therapy. Karen Start was at horse
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: horseback riding and no, it's it's working with horses so
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: people feel trust. People who have been traumatized feel they traumatized.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: That was the traumas exactly. That's what's so remarkable about
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: this is that I don't see any kind of trauma
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: that he's going through. And so how does this work
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: with sexual addiction? You know how hard it is to
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: change somebody who has a sexual perversion, and he's to
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: be relating to horses so that he could feel better
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: about himself. I don't understand that I feel sorry for
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: the horse. I don't get a technically, technically he is
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: he is. He is traumatized because he got caught. Yes,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: but that's not is the old adage I used to
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: love arguing this is to juries, not sorry he did it,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: sorry got caught joining me right now is a legal
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: expert and veteran criminal defense attorney and no stranger to
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: the entertainment industry. L A lawyer, Troy W. Slayton, Troy,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. You know, there's been
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: much made of the fact that President Trump has urged
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the d o J to open up an investigation on Weinstein.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Now we don't know that, and again I have no
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: interest in politicizing a potential crime. But the fact that
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the FBI allegedly has started an investigation on Weinstein, that's
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: not good for him, and at least some law enforcement
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: arm is taking action. Troy. The Department of Justice regulates
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: their controls the FBI, and there are several federal crimes
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: that Harvey Weinstein could be on the hook for. The
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: most notably that comes to mind is RICO under eighteen
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: United States Code nineteen sixte Now, normally we think about
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: RICO in terms of like organized crime, but you don't
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: really have to go there. If Harvey Weinstein, and as
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the stories are emerging, several people at the Weinstein Company
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and at Merrimax were enabling him, then they could all
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: be on the hook. Well, here's another thing I don't
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: know if you've heard the very latest, but actress Kate
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Beckinsale says Weinstein tried to have sex with her when
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: she was just seventeen years old, and also claims it
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: undoubtedly harmed her career. Now here's another angle, Troy, a
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: civil rights action because when you harass, intimidate, commit a
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: crime on a protected class, and that would be women
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: or minorities. Doesn't matter that more of the population or women,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: women or minorities in a systematic way, that is a
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: civil rights violation. And that's why we see and I
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: want to I want to get your take on that, Troy,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: because that's why we see, for instance, and the Rodney
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: King beating. Remember that, Remember, as I recall it, Alan,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you were there, we were all watching when this went down.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: The beating of a black man by why I was
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: a vicious, vicious beating and then the fans got in
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: on it. Under a civil rights at do you remember that, Troy. Absolutely,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: a person is not allowed to violate the civil of another.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, how many of the victims were promised movie
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: deals for sexual favors that they never ended up getting
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: another I don't know why you're putting perfume on the
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: pigs like, and you call it sexual favors, like it's
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: a lovely package tied up under the Christmas tree. It's
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: rape and sex assault allegedly, that's what we're talking about.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Don't make him nicer than it is, Nancy. If one
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: of the prosecutors alleges that Harvey Weinstein and the company
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: engaged in acts of terrorism against these women, then that
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: could be another predicate act. I want to talk to
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: you about what you're saying. Rico racketeering, that's what he's
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: talking about. Is usually it started off with the mob,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: then it expanded to just basically dopers that had either
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: a loose or a very tight um enterprise in other words,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: had other people working with them to achieve a criminal end.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: And dopers and mobsters are always afraid of rico action.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: It's basically a criminal enterprise. In other words, it's not
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: just you doing it on your own. You've got a
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: network of other people helping you. Like El Chapo, you
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: know the drug lord, he has hundreds of people working
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: for him. That's a criminal enterprise. The mob, they've got
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: hundreds of people that are in the mob. All what's
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: stealing cars, selling dope, pushing hookers, murder, blah blah. It's
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: all part of one criminal enterprise to make criminal money.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: So here the framework I understand you are saying is
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: that Weinstein could be prosecuted with a civil rights violation
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: on these women or a criminal act or sexual harassment
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: with the help of his underlings, and therefore it becomes
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: a criminal enterprise. Yes, no, yes, but it's not just criminal.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Rico could also be civil. There's a federal civil action
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: for Rico, and there's even at California civil action f Rico.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: So he could find himself in state court, in sederal
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: civil court, and the worst for him, in federal criminal court.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Alan deep Uh. The fact that Kate Beckinsal is now
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: coming forward and saying that Weinstein tried, well, it's the
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: same old thing. They go to a hotel room for
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: a meeting and he shows up in his dressing down
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: his robe and tries to give her booze. Okay, she
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: still thinks to this day that that hurt this beautiful star,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the star of Underworld, revealed this on Instagram and it's
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: just happened that he sexually harassed her when she was
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: just a seventeen year old girl. I mean Troy is
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: the same old story. She thinks she's going to a meeting.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: She goes to the Savoy Hotel. She thinks it's gonna
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: be in a conference room. When she arrives, receptionists the
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Savoy tell Swar to go to his room. I've done
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: that a million times and didn't think anything of it.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: He opens, I mean, it was two months ago. I
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: was bammon on a hotel room door of what I
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: believe now a doper and possibly a party to a murder.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: That was me bammon on his door, and um, he's
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: in jail now. So the guy Weinstein opens the door
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: in his bathrobe, Okay. Then he tries to give her
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: a booze, and she's even saying things like I have
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: school the next morning. I mean, she's seventeen years old.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: That's a minor, Alan Duke. The shocking thing is she
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: says that a few years after that, he asked her
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: if he had tried anything with her in that first meeting.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: He she then realized that he couldn't even remember if
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: he had assaulted her or not. Oh yeah, that's right,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: she says. A few years later, Troy Slayton, she runs
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: into Weinstein she's a brit She runs an to winst
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: into Weinstein and he recalls their first meeting and says, quote, Hey,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: did I try anything? So why are people insisting the
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: fans can't touch him? Troy, I'm not sure. I mean,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: he may have defenses, and all of this is subject
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: to proof at an eventual trial. But once the FBI
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: starts talking to people, people start folding, People start quote
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: unquote cooperating because nobody wants to be under the thumb
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: of the FBI. And it's even another crime if you
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: lie to the FBI. And nobody is gonna lie for
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Weinstein when the FBI is knocking up their door. Now,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: hold on just a moment. Here's the perfect example. Martha Stewart. Okay,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: when I was a prosecutor trial you'll laugh at this.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I'd have been working all day, every day on the weekends,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: putting together trials. You know, I'll wake you're handling calendars
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: on the weekend. I try to put my trials together,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and I'd have Martha Stewart's show in the background where
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: she was at her beautiful home up and was it
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: turkey here all or something like that, And it was
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: like a fantasy I mean, I thought people really live
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: like that, and I would imagine me doing all those
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: things when I wasn't trying your marder case. My point
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: is they brought her in to talk about insider trading,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: alleged insider trading. I wish you'd just clammed up for
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: her benefit, But she talked so these people and then
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: she ended up going to jail. So these people, um
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: that we're at t w C, the Weinstein Company, merrimax.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: If they facilitated these honeypots to catch girls, mislead them
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: into a sense of safety so Weinstein could come on
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: to them, or worse, they're in it too, Troy, How
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: is that explained legally? How that would work. If they
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: lie in order to protect Weinstein, then they're going to
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: be prosecuted criminally. And if they give a story about
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: what they were doing in order to facilitate this, then
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: that is the criminal enterprise. That's the racketeering. Those are
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: the predicate act that are required to establish a racketeering charge.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Now everybody's trying to drag politics into it as usual,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: climbing that President Trump is ordering the d o J
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: to urge the FBI to investigate Weinstein because Weinstein donated
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: heavily to Trump's rival Hillary Clinton. Who cares? What I
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: care about is did he rape somebody? Did he sexually
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: assault somebody? I don't care? And levels way way way
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: above me. Who's changing dirty money? I don't know, and
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I don't care about that. I care about crime, violent crime,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: and I want to stop it. So why is it
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  Speaker 1: being politicized? Anthony Weener is going to federal prison for
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  Speaker 1: two years for sending illicit photographs to somebody who he
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  Speaker 1: thought was under it. That's not all he did. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: She told him she was under age, and they skyped
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: and he had her strip and fondle herself us a
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  Speaker 1: little more than sending racy pictures. Okay, she's a minor.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just jog your memory on that choice. In
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  Speaker 1: that case, there is no physical contact here with Harvey Weinstein.
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  Speaker 1: It's a whole different story. So what do you think
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  Speaker 1: in the end's gonna happen. I think that we're definitely
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  Speaker 1: gonna see civil actions because people want money, and so
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: as all of these victims, which may be true, may
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  Speaker 1: not be true, they're going to be suing him in
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  Speaker 1: state court, in federal court. And we're just gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to see what the career prosecutors that the d o
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  Speaker 1: J are going to do with regard to a federal
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  Speaker 1: criminal prosecution. I certainly hope they do more than the
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  Speaker 1: n yp D district attorney, the New York District Attorney Vance,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: who did nothing after the NYPD worked up a case
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  Speaker 1: against Weinstein form allegedly all this allegations. He has not
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  Speaker 1: been charged criminally. He is not a person of interest,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: he is not a suspect. These are all allegations. By
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  Speaker 1: now we know of thirty front women reportedly, Hey, Troy,
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  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I'm not interested you in that way.
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  Speaker 1: But what are you doing Sunday night? I'm not sure?
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Well you should be sure, because at nine o'clock Eastern
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  Speaker 1: hat Mark movie and Mystery Dating Is Murder is coming on,
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  Speaker 1: and I assume you're going to be in the position
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  Speaker 1: I eat on your sofa with a bag of popcorn.
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  Speaker 1: I will be watching and and set my DVR and
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: so Alan, let's tell him the premise of Dating is Murder.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Of course, it's about murder, right, Alan. My favorite scene
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  Speaker 1: is the one we played on the show yesterday of
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: you acting as a waitress. Ha ha. That was a
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  Speaker 1: surly waitress. Troy, You're gonna love it. I was being
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  Speaker 1: rude to the star who is killing Martin playing Healey Dean,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: and um, given a really hard time that this is
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I'll just give you a little bit of a clue.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: So of course there's a dead body. Okay, let's just
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: start with that. And so he only finds out that
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: the victim has been on a dating site. I've made
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: up a dating site. So she, in order to try
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: to catch the killer, gets on the dating site and
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: tries to make contact, you know, with people she suspects.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: So she goes through a series of disastrous dates. And
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: I was outlining to Alan Deet some ideas I had
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: for really bad dates. I had one guy that picked
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: his nose the whole time. I had one guy that
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: was said he went to the bathroom and left her
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: with the check disappeared. Had one guy talked the whole
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: time about his ex. Just just all kind of nightmare dates.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: But in this is about solving murder. Hey, guys, take
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: a listen to this. Mist I'm really sorry, but today
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: is not a good day. Alicia. Excuse me, you need
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: to make an appointments. My appointment look I'm really sorry
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  Speaker 1: about Mirando. Okay, I am, but I have a very
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: important meeting with a major investor any minute now. That
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: day earlier than expected. Another woman has gone missing. And
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the last time she was saying she was using your app.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: It's a coincidence. Where is Jessica. She's out of the office,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: or such a thing as a coincidence. Well, I can't
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: have you tarnishing my apps reputation. Okay, not today. You
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: need to leave. A woman's life is in danger and
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: all you can think about your ass reputation? Really, Alicia,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: can you call security? Please? Can call? Who have you won?
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: You're solving forty two what I've been looking for you
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: and you've been right in front of me the whole time. Troy,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: how many times have you and I Alan jump in
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: covered an internet murder? I mean Craigslist killer. I mean
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: they go on and on and on how people meet
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: online for whatever reason and end up dead. Doesn't say times, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: and I hope this is the start of an Alfred
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Hitchcock style cameo for you. In all of your stories
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: that are You've been in most of them, haven't you.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: This is your fourth movie. Yeah, I've been in all
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: three so far. The first one was Murder with Love.
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  Speaker 1: The next one was Deadly Estate. And I had the
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: idea for Deadly Estate, which revolved around an estate sale.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: A friend of mine, Um, who has twins, would always
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: sit in front of me at church. And she moved left,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: and Um moved back to New York City and she
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I said, how'd you get rid of all that furniture?
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: And she said, I used everything but the house. That
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: was a real life clearing house. And it just gave
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: me an idea. They come in and sell all your stuff.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: You know, how to have a murder play at this
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: one is called dating is a murder? Troy, I think
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  Speaker 1: you should do a cameo. I really do. Well, all
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  Speaker 1: my agent please, because that watched up for about twenty years,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: watched up. So okay, it's Sunday night, what Allen? I
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: think there's a Cagney and Lacey marathon on TV Land
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  Speaker 1: that night, so I think that's what Troy will be watching.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Oh please, So that way I could use the residuals. Yeah, Troy,
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  Speaker 1: you were a child star, right. I was for over
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• 47:25
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  Speaker 1: Kid was on Parker Lewis Can't Lose, and tons of
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: other shows in the eighties, nineties and so on. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't watch TV. I was busy working. So how
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  Speaker 1: did we turn to Hailey Dane Murder Mystery on Sunday
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  Speaker 1: Night at nine o'clock Hallmark Movie Murders and Mysteries. How
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: do we turn this surround to you being a child star.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you did that, but I respect that. Okay, everybody,
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  Speaker 1: I'll see a Sunday Night on Hallmark Movies and Mysteries
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