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Clint Frazier on White Sox fake injuries, Yankees tension · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: If you want to get the fans involved and see
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Speaker 1: what's really going on in these locker rooms, you had
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Speaker 1: to have been in.
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Speaker 2: That twenty twenty.
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Speaker 1: Three Chicago White Sox locker room.
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Speaker 3: All right, we've got Clint Fraser, former big leaguer, joining
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Speaker 3: us right now on FT. I'll let Kratz do a
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Speaker 3: little more on the intro. Go ahead, Crats.
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Speaker 4: Lightning in the thunder thunder? I mean, did you did
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Speaker 4: you bring all those size nine shoes out so that
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Speaker 4: we could see them too in your background?
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Speaker 2: Is that?
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Speaker 4: What is that what you got out there?
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Speaker 1: I went emptied the bank account, bought every shoe I
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Speaker 1: saw in the store and just put them on the shelves,
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Speaker 1: just just the case.
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Speaker 2: Man, one moment, you get one chance, so might as well.
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Speaker 4: Uh flexo, man, you're you're done playing. You're officially done
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Speaker 4: playing now. Did you quit or did you retire?
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Speaker 2: I think it was a combination of both. Uh. You know,
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Speaker 2: no one called the phone the hit stopped coming.
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Speaker 1: I remember Brian Cashman told me one time, hey man,
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Speaker 1: you if you get a lot of hits, you have
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Speaker 1: a lot of friends. And started looking around and there
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Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of friends.
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Speaker 3: That's a good way to put it. Okay, So first off,
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Speaker 3: when you look back at your big league career, what
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Speaker 3: stands out? What are some of your best memories and
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Speaker 3: some things maybe that you wish that you could have
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Speaker 3: done differently.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think overall, like obviously, you know, getting
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Speaker 1: drafted was obviously a big thing that I was trying
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Speaker 1: to accomplish at a young age. So to just get
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Speaker 1: that opportunity, you know, I think I had expectations that
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Speaker 1: were a little bit higher than what I achieved, but
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Speaker 1: things happened along the way. I got opportunities, and you know,
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Speaker 1: I took the most of them as I could. And
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean I had a crazy first week
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Speaker 1: of my big leagues. I think that's the highlight of
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Speaker 1: my career, which is kind of funny if you think
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Speaker 1: about it, But I mean I came in. I think
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Speaker 1: I homered and doubled in my first game. I hit
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Speaker 1: a walk off in the first week on the guy
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Speaker 1: that closed the All Star Game, Craig Cannabel. So for me,
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Speaker 1: it was a cool first week. You know what came
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Speaker 1: after that was ups and downs.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you finished your big league career
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Speaker 4: with less home runs than me. So I pretty much
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Speaker 4: make sure I have to make sure everybody knows that
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Speaker 4: I just looked it up. So there's that. But we
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Speaker 4: were just talking about a guy named Dalton Rushing who
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Speaker 4: just got called up to be a backup. He was
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Speaker 4: a big time prospect. Do you feel like a prospect
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Speaker 4: can get called up to the big leagues and not
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Speaker 4: play every day and have success or you feel like
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Speaker 4: it's setting you up for failure if you do that.
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Speaker 1: I think it's tough, dude, you know, because like you
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Speaker 1: go from especially if you're mentioning like top prospect guy
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Speaker 1: that gets a lot of opportunities, a guy that knows
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Speaker 1: every single day that he's going to be in that
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Speaker 1: lineup regardless of you know, who gets called up around
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Speaker 1: him in the minor leagues I'm speaking about. So when
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Speaker 1: you get to the big leagues and you're used to
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Speaker 1: playing every single day and you know, your numbers not
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Speaker 1: being called upon as often, it I feel like it's
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Speaker 1: like it's hard, dude. I mean, you know, you sit
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Speaker 1: there for six seven innings and you get thrown into
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Speaker 1: the eighth of the ninth and it's the best guys
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Speaker 1: on the mound, and it's it's not easy. So I
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Speaker 1: think it's one of those things where you're learning on
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Speaker 1: the fly as you go, and obviously you know you're
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Speaker 1: trying your hardest, but you know, some of these guys
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Speaker 1: you have no chance again, so it's you know, they're
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Speaker 1: kind of stacking you up against the eight ball.
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Speaker 2: I think.
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Speaker 4: So you're from small town Georgia, you went to small
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Speaker 4: town Cleveland, and you're when you were drafted and you
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Speaker 4: played small town minor league baseball, and then you get traded.
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Speaker 4: You were you were. You were the throw in in
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Speaker 4: the JP fire Eyes in trade and the Ben Keller
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Speaker 4: trade for Andrew Miller. But you were the Marquis Peace
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Speaker 4: coming back in that trade, which was tougher for you
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Speaker 4: New York fans or New York media being twenty two
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Speaker 4: years old, being the next next hope for the Indians
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Speaker 4: because I can say the Indians there were the Indians
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Speaker 4: at that time. So who was tougher, the media or
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Speaker 4: the fans?
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Speaker 2: I think the media.
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Speaker 1: I think that, like, you know, there was a because
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Speaker 1: like here's the thing, dude, Like I I came in
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Speaker 1: not knowing anything about New York baseball, right, Like I
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Speaker 1: genuinely did not watch baseball growing up as a kid,
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Speaker 1: if I did it was like Ryan Howard was the
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Speaker 1: only guy that I really focused on, and I really
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Speaker 1: didn't know much beyond his years. So when I come
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Speaker 1: in week one, you know, they're asking me if I
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Speaker 1: asked Mickey Manno's number to be unretired so I could
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Speaker 1: wear it. And I'm sitting there thinking like, I don't
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Speaker 1: even know what number this guy wears, and I'm being
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Speaker 1: told by people with the Yankees like you cannot say that.
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Speaker 1: And the only people that were asking me the questions
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Speaker 1: that backed me into a bad corner were the media.
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Speaker 1: So for me, I felt like they saw that, you know,
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Speaker 1: I was going to give an authentic answer. I was
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Speaker 1: going to be honest, and I genuinely, at twenty two
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Speaker 1: years old, had no idea that I was kind of
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Speaker 1: being fleeced into, you know, some clickbait headlines until eventually
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Speaker 1: I read a few of them and I was like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I kind of see what they're going with right now. So,
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Speaker 1: you know, every now and then I would lean into
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Speaker 1: the questions and give them what they wanted. But you know,
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Speaker 1: there was obviously times when I was like I just
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Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with this guy. Today, So
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be I'm gonna be vanilla.
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Speaker 5: Hey Clint, it's crazy what you're talking about and how
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Speaker 5: they tried to get you to do this. But was
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Speaker 5: there a veteran guy that grabbed you and said, Hey,
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Speaker 5: you don't have.
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Speaker 2: To do this.
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Speaker 5: You don't have to speak about this, you don't have
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Speaker 5: to answer this question. You can give the Derek Jeter
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Speaker 5: say a bunch of words and don't really say anything,
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Speaker 5: and they'll all love you no matter what. There was
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Speaker 5: no veteran that grabbed you and said, hey, let's do
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Speaker 5: this a little bit differently.
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Speaker 1: Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, But I can't remember
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Speaker 1: a specific moment where somebody came up to me and
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Speaker 1: was like, hey, brother, you need to you need to
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Speaker 1: go this direction instead of going that direction. And you know,
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Speaker 1: ultimately I genuinely like and I say this with no like,
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Speaker 1: no disdain, no nothing towards anyone like. I never really
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Speaker 1: had somebody that actually took me under their wing and
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Speaker 1: stuck with me the whole time. Maybe it was in
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Speaker 1: short bits I had somebody that was trying to help
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Speaker 1: me along the way, but it was never like if
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Speaker 1: there was issues.
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Speaker 2: With what Red Thunder was doing.
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Speaker 1: It was all behind the scenes, and no one ever
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Speaker 1: pulled me to the side to kind of like help me.
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Speaker 1: I went through a lot of stuff that was silently
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Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes that I would find out from,
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Speaker 1: you know, just being around people and seeing how they
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Speaker 1: were acting.
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Speaker 4: All right. So one of the things that was behind
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Speaker 4: the scenes and came out was what Delan Patance has said,
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Speaker 4: the story of your Jordan contract. Can you tell your
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Speaker 4: side of it? Because Dellan went on the ALT cast
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Speaker 4: the other day and told his side of it, how
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Speaker 4: Guardy Guardy pranked you a little bit.
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Speaker 1: So just to clarify, when I saw that on my timeline,
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Speaker 1: that was the first time that I had found out
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Speaker 1: that Guardy was involved in this. I like, honestly, bro,
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Speaker 1: I can say it with like all love. Guardy was
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Speaker 1: probably my favorite teammate that I had in New York.
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Speaker 1: He was the funniest guy. He was really he was
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Speaker 1: good to me, he was good to everybody. So for
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Speaker 1: Guardy to go that long and never bring it up
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Speaker 1: to me, that's that's that's kind of messed up, dude.
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Speaker 1: Because I was I hung out with him a lot,
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Speaker 1: so it does feel like a Guardy prank, but it
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Speaker 1: feels like it was executed by CC. So for me,
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Speaker 1: like I'll just keep it straight, Like I look, man,
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Speaker 1: I I was trying to wear Jordan cleats during the
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen season, and I.
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Speaker 2: Don't really know what was going on that year.
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Speaker 1: I had a lot going on, but I was I
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Speaker 1: was putting cleats on the bottom of s. I was
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Speaker 1: just I was spending a lot of money on stuff
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Speaker 1: that was really just not needed to be spent on
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Speaker 1: in the shoe world. So I started to do this
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Speaker 1: and it got a lot of attention on social media.
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Speaker 1: I did a really good job at like posting some pictures,
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Speaker 1: posting some comments, like trying to engage with people to
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Speaker 1: let them know that what I was going to be
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Speaker 1: wearing that night. And I just happened to have three
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Speaker 1: teammates who were signed by Jordan who thought that that
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Speaker 1: was kind of corny on the other side. So for me,
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Speaker 1: it was like, hey, like I'm I'm doing the best
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Speaker 1: that I can. This is an attempt to try to
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Speaker 1: get a Jordan deal. This is the best I've got.
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Speaker 1: And so you know, I show up to Yankee Stadium
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Speaker 1: one day there's this vanilla folder just sitting on my
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Speaker 1: locker like thinking about it now, like it's super suspicious
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Speaker 1: because I don't even know if there was like a
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Speaker 1: postage note from it. But I opened it up and
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Speaker 1: it's this white letter. And I actually spent hours looking
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Speaker 1: for this letter. It's in my house. I know it's
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Speaker 1: here because I kept it because I was like, I
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Speaker 1: have to keep this, regard this if it's real or not.
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Speaker 1: But the most convincing thing was that the letter, like
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Speaker 1: the paper was so thick, like it was so it
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Speaker 1: was so professional, the way they stamped the Jordan logoing
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Speaker 1: to the top. I was like, I mean from the beginning,
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Speaker 1: I was like, somebody, somebody of some.
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Speaker 2: Good stature sent me this, and I did it.
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Speaker 1: So I started going around, started asking some players like hey,
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Speaker 1: like what do you got on this, and everyone's like, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's good. That's good. Like I think I talked to CC.
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Speaker 1: I think I talked to Hicks. But the guy that
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Speaker 1: sold me the most was Dylan. Like Dylan Dylan was
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Speaker 1: good to me. We didn't have a lot of interactions.
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Speaker 1: So when Delan was like, hey man, I got that
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Speaker 1: letter too, like Dellan has no idea, but that sold me,
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Speaker 1: Like That's when I was like, I'm a Jordan guy.
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Speaker 2: That's it. I'm a Jordan guy.
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Speaker 1: Dlan said he got the letter I'm in. He was
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Speaker 1: the only one that I believed, right. So a few
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Speaker 1: days go by, and I mean a few days, he said,
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Speaker 1: it was twenty four hours. That is not what happened,
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Speaker 1: because what followed was the Red Sox series where I
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Speaker 1: had a bad game and I got Jessica Mendoza sitting
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Speaker 1: in the booth holding a pair of my shoes saying
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Speaker 1: like these are so sweet. But on the flip side,
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Speaker 1: I'm in right field, just like a casualty out there
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Speaker 1: dropping three fly balls. So she goes from like talking
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Speaker 1: good about my cleats to talking bad about.
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Speaker 2: How I'm playing. And so I single handley lose the.
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Speaker 1: Red Sox game that night basically, and come back to
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Speaker 1: my locker and change and there's like, I don't know, man,
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was like a block party inside of
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Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium locker room with the media, like a.
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Speaker 2: Hundred of them there, like just feasting. So they're waiting
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Speaker 2: for me. I go off.
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Speaker 1: I took a phone call from somebody that I needed
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Speaker 1: to talk to and ended up not talking to the media.
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Speaker 1: So a few days go by, right, like the Red
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Speaker 1: Sox series finishes.
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Speaker 2: We go to Toronto. The next night, we have an
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Speaker 2: off day.
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Speaker 1: There's plenty of time to tell me that this letter
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Speaker 1: is fake, and nobody tells me. I actually went to
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Speaker 1: Guardi's room because he checked on me that night. And
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Speaker 1: then the next damn sitting in the locker room and
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Speaker 1: Seec comes up to me and.
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Speaker 2: He's like, hey, cause that letter's fake, dude.
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Speaker 1: And I had already made fifty phone calls dude, trying
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Speaker 1: to confirm this was real. Like, my agents called the
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Speaker 1: Jordan people and they're like, we did not send that letter.
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Speaker 2: So you know, they got me.
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Speaker 1: And I felt like it was it was a little
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Speaker 1: too far because I didn't have a good relationship with
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Speaker 1: a couple of the people involved, so for them to
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Speaker 1: do that felt a little more cruel than a prank
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Speaker 1: to me.
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Speaker 4: All right, well was it cruel this year when you
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Speaker 4: saw a Yankees game and dude started having a little
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Speaker 4: bit longer hair and a little bit more beards, Like, dude,
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Speaker 4: you tried to when you got traded over, when you got.
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Speaker 5: Traded over from the Indians.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you had your red thunder hair and they said,
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Speaker 4: what to you?
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Speaker 1: You got to shop the locks kid immediately, I mean
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Speaker 1: I did. I remember specifically Jenny Steinberner seeing me for
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Speaker 1: the first time and coming up to me and like
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Speaker 1: grabbing my hair and being like, I can't wait for
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Speaker 1: this to be cut. And this was in the off season,
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Speaker 1: so like I knew right then and there. I was like,
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Speaker 1: this is this is not going to be good, because
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Speaker 1: I'm not the type to want to do things the
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Speaker 1: first time you asked me, and I tried to buck
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Speaker 1: the system and certainly kept the hair above the shoulders.
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Speaker 1: But man, it seemed like it was like all the
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Speaker 1: way down my back, the way that it was being covered.
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Speaker 1: I think it was because it was red hair. Dude,
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Speaker 1: if it was blonde, I don't think anyone would have carred.
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Speaker 3: So what did you think when they got rid of
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Speaker 3: the beard policy.
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Speaker 2: I was just highly offended. Man. I was highly offended
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Speaker 2: because I felt like.
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Speaker 1: I felt like I was one of the guys there
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Speaker 1: that certainly was trying to like push the envelope, you know,
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Speaker 1: like the whole twenty twenty season underneath my COVID mask,
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Speaker 1: Like I had a.
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Speaker 2: Full beard that year.
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Speaker 1: So I was like I was already trying to like
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Speaker 1: go certain routes and hide the stuff. And when they
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Speaker 1: got rid of it, like one year after I'm gone,
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Speaker 1: I was.
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Speaker 2: Like, you got it. That felt personal.
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Speaker 1: Now that I'm actually thinking about it, that one that
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Speaker 1: feels personal a little bit.
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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I get it.
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Speaker 5: I get it all right. But I want to know
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Speaker 5: if you can look back at your career now that
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Speaker 5: you're done playing, you had good numbers of triple A
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Speaker 5: every time you were down there, and then you got
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Speaker 5: to the big leagues, you got some ups and downs. Obviously,
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Speaker 5: what's the big as difference to triple A in the
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Speaker 5: big leagues as far as hitting wise, pitching wise, what's
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Speaker 5: the difference?
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Speaker 1: I think that like one of the big things that
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Speaker 1: I noticed in triple A versus the major leagues is that,
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Speaker 1: like when you're in the minor leagues, it's like there's
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Speaker 1: really not guys that you look at and you're like wow,
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Speaker 1: like I haven't seen something like this before. And then
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Speaker 1: another thing that stood out the most to me is
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Speaker 1: when I'm standing in the outfield, like there's a whole
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Speaker 1: other deck to these stadiums, Like the amount of people
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Speaker 1: that filled these stadiums.
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Speaker 2: In the eyes on you.
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Speaker 1: It creates like this aura around the players when you
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Speaker 1: got a roll to Chapman coming out of the bullpen
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Speaker 1: and the whole stadiums lighting up with flames, and you're like,
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Speaker 1: I didn't see that in Triple A, Like I didn't
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Speaker 1: get that experience. So I think for me, it's just
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Speaker 1: like you see these guys and you feel like you're
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Speaker 1: you're supposed to be there, and once you get there,
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Speaker 1: there's they're there. You know, you got one second to
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Speaker 1: make an adjustment to hit off these guys. And it's
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Speaker 1: a lot of established big leaguers that have faced people
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Speaker 1: that are certainly more capable or have accomplished more in
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Speaker 1: their careers than what I've done in my short careers.
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Speaker 1: So I'm just like I'm David versus Goliath, you know.
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Speaker 1: Like I think that's really what it comes down to,
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Speaker 1: is that the older that I say this, the older
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Speaker 1: that I got in baseball, the more I started to
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Speaker 1: realize that, like there's levels to the preparation that these
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Speaker 1: pitchers and players have.
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Speaker 2: They're a little bit older, and there's there's.
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Speaker 1: Tricks and things that they can do to get you
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Speaker 1: to fall bait to the things that they want you
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Speaker 1: to swing at, and I fell bait to plenty of
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Speaker 1: things because of, you know, just being a younger guy,
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Speaker 1: not being around the block, and not having a lot
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Speaker 1: of experience compared to some of the guys that were
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Speaker 1: in the major leagues for many years beyond whenever I
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Speaker 1: got there, when you were in the.
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Speaker 4: Minor leagues with the Yankees, did you feel like at
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Speaker 4: one point coming over from the Indians, they were a
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Speaker 4: little too analytical, a little too just in that in
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Speaker 4: that direction for you.
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Speaker 1: I mean I remember being told by a specific person
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Speaker 1: in the analytics department that they didn't believe in like
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Speaker 1: players getting hot, you know, and that was all analytically driven,
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Speaker 1: and that was their way of saying, like, for instance,
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Speaker 1: like I could be fifty five or fifty five and
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Speaker 1: they would be like he's not hot, Like it's gonna cool,
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Speaker 1: he's gonna cool down. Like they they believed you were
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Speaker 1: what you were, And in my mind, I was like,
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Speaker 1: but that's not using your eyes, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: Like this guy's on a scorcher right now, and you know,
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Speaker 1: like you got to run with that sometimes. And so yeah,
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Speaker 1: like I do feel like they hired a few too
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Speaker 1: Mini Rocket scientists to try to like make the lineup
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Speaker 1: instead of just like letting a former player or a
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Speaker 1: guy that has more experience write the lineup.
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Speaker 5: That's funny. Yeah, analytics don't believe that you're a human being.
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Speaker 5: Just always remember that. I mean, analytics are good for
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Speaker 5: some things. But you're never hot, you're never cold. You're
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Speaker 5: just a robot. You're never mad at your the person
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Speaker 5: at home, your kids are never sick, your dog was
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Speaker 5: never sick, and keep you up all night. You're just
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Speaker 5: a robot. So always remember that. Always remember that you're
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Speaker 5: a robot. Now you got to experience what I like
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Speaker 5: to call the White Sox experience. Okay, after I was gone,
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Speaker 5: please explain the difference between the Yankees and the White
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Speaker 5: Sox experience. They would let you have long hair, but
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Speaker 5: you had it's a little bit. Yeah, go ahead.
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Speaker 1: I left my White Sox hat sitting upstairs, and I
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Speaker 1: almost wore it for you, like the.
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Speaker 2: Only it's the only baseball hat that I wear.
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Speaker 1: I'm so proud to be able to say that I
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Speaker 1: was a Chicago White Sox for so many reasons.
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Speaker 2: So like that was I'll be honest, like a j
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Speaker 2: that was.
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Speaker 1: The most fun I've ever had in a baseball experience,
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Speaker 1: but it was not like as a fan for what
17:31
Speaker 1: the reason I was having fun was like, you don't.
17:33
Speaker 2: Want me to have fun for those reasons. Like it
17:35
Speaker 2: was not the reasons brother.
17:44
Speaker 1: When I got there, I just specifically remember being told
17:48
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to throw people under the bus.
17:51
Speaker 1: But it was a staff member being like, we got
17:53
Speaker 1: a lot of superstars that don't want to act like superstars,
17:56
Speaker 1: and he's like, I need you to bring some energy
18:00
Speaker 1: because these guys do not hustle. They don't they don't
18:04
Speaker 1: try hard.
18:05
Speaker 2: Dude.
18:06
Speaker 1: I saw what looked to be like eight different season
18:09
Speaker 1: inning injuries to like the naked eye, all for them
18:13
Speaker 1: to go to the hospital get diagnosed and like not
18:15
Speaker 1: even a bruise, and it was just like these guys
18:18
Speaker 1: didn't want to play, like they didn't want to do stuff.
18:23
Speaker 1: I remember specifically, like one dude's laying on the ground
18:26
Speaker 1: in the batter's box like looked like he broke his back,
18:29
Speaker 1: and I looked at the trainer and was like, what's
18:32
Speaker 1: going on. He's like, Dude, that's just that's just normal. Man,
18:36
Speaker 1: Like we're not gonna go out there and check on
18:38
Speaker 1: that and I was like, this is crazy, Like this
18:41
Speaker 1: is this is crazy, and I mean got between being
18:46
Speaker 1: in hitters meetings and guys being on their phones while
18:49
Speaker 1: the managers trying to hide people up like just like
18:52
Speaker 1: straight like I mean, challenging people, challenging the people that
18:58
Speaker 1: were in charge was all I saw. Likes running the asylum,
19:01
Speaker 1: no doubt there was. There was no They put a
19:04
Speaker 1: group of guys together that was like, it's like a militia.
19:08
Speaker 2: Like they were not they were they were not gonna
19:11
Speaker 2: go down. It was great. The players, which which which
19:16
Speaker 2: should you rather have?
19:18
Speaker 4: It sounds like you're saying, no rules, White Sox to
19:21
Speaker 4: all the rules Yankees.
19:23
Speaker 2: Which would you.
19:24
Speaker 3: Rather have.
19:27
Speaker 2: White Sox all day? Dude?
19:29
Speaker 1: Like that was like like if the if the Red
19:33
Speaker 1: Sox got a documentary, the White Sox are so much
19:36
Speaker 1: more deserving of it from the like, if you want
19:38
Speaker 1: to get the fans involved and see what's really going
19:42
Speaker 1: on in these locker rooms, you had to have been
19:44
Speaker 1: in that twenty twenty three Chicago White Sox locker room
19:48
Speaker 1: like there was that was I can't even I don't
19:53
Speaker 1: want to do that to certain people, but that was
19:55
Speaker 1: the most fun I've ever had I'll just say that.
19:59
Speaker 3: Wait, can you give me anything else? You don't have
20:01
Speaker 3: to say any names at all, not asking for name
20:04
Speaker 3: Lance Lynn Well, Lances, Lances our buddy. But was there
20:09
Speaker 3: anything else that you observed there that was different from
20:11
Speaker 3: the rest of your experiences? As you mentioned, there were
20:14
Speaker 3: guys that didn't want to play anything else that you
20:16
Speaker 3: would be there and look at and be like, this
20:19
Speaker 3: is documentary worthy. This is not what I've seen anywhere else.
20:25
Speaker 1: I'll give you one thing because this is unlike any
20:28
Speaker 1: experience I've ever had. I'm not going to say his name.
20:31
Speaker 1: I don't want it because some people are still playing, right,
20:34
Speaker 1: I'll just beat around the bush. But there was there
20:36
Speaker 1: was a time where a player did not hustle down
20:42
Speaker 1: the line and in his eyes, he didn't know where
20:48
Speaker 1: the ball went. It's what he said, right, Like he
20:50
Speaker 1: didn't like he swung and didn't know where the ball went,
20:53
Speaker 1: had no idea that he went and play, and that's
20:54
Speaker 1: why he didn't run. But in the manager's eyes, like
21:00
Speaker 1: he was not gonna have that. So he went over
21:02
Speaker 1: to this certain individual and was like what the hell
21:06
Speaker 1: or sorry, you know, like what's going on? Like why
21:08
Speaker 1: aren't you why aren't you hustling? Like I'm gonna take
21:11
Speaker 1: you out the game. And this was like the first
21:14
Speaker 1: couple of days I was there.
21:15
Speaker 2: This guy looked back.
21:16
Speaker 1: At the manager and was just basically like, if you
21:19
Speaker 1: take me out this game, we're gonna have a serious problem.
21:21
Speaker 2: And the guy was like, are you threatening me? And
21:23
Speaker 2: he goes take me out this game, We're gonna have
21:25
Speaker 2: a serious problem. And like this guy did not come
21:28
Speaker 2: out the game, and I was.
21:30
Speaker 1: Like, holy, like this guy is He just threatened the
21:33
Speaker 1: menser like like you know, like I'm gonna like, we're
21:35
Speaker 1: gonna have a serious problem if you take me out
21:38
Speaker 1: this game.
21:38
Speaker 2: And like I had never any stayed in the game
21:40
Speaker 2: and was in the lineup every day.
21:41
Speaker 1: Moving forward, Like it was like, Wow, who's really running
21:46
Speaker 1: this team?
21:49
Speaker 3: That's good? Have you seen that before?
21:51
Speaker 5: Have I ever seen Well, listen, I'll tell you this
21:53
Speaker 5: story about the White Sox. This is and it's it's
21:55
Speaker 5: not even on this level. But Brian Anderson, who was
21:58
Speaker 5: a first round pick for the it sucks right. They
22:01
Speaker 5: were gonna send him to Triple A because he couldn't hit.
22:05
Speaker 5: And he goes, if you send me to Triple A,
22:06
Speaker 5: I'm going to become a pitcher and they're like, excuse
22:09
Speaker 5: me what he did later in his career. But he goes,
22:11
Speaker 5: if you send me to Triple A and become a
22:12
Speaker 5: pitcher and they goes, so you'd rather just never play
22:15
Speaker 5: in the big leagues or go to Triple A and
22:17
Speaker 5: be a picture and he's like, yeah, I'll stay in
22:18
Speaker 5: the big league. He's like, okay, fine, you can stay.
22:21
Speaker 2: Didn't send him down.
22:22
Speaker 5: Well, literally, they first they asked him, will you if
22:25
Speaker 5: you would you rather be in the big leagues or
22:26
Speaker 5: go to Triple A And he's like big leagu's like
22:28
Speaker 5: what if he never plays? Like, I'd still rather stay,
22:30
Speaker 5: and they go, okay, well, we're probably gonna send you down.
22:32
Speaker 5: He goes, if you send me down, I'm going to
22:33
Speaker 5: become a pitcher and they're like, okay, you can stay.
22:36
Speaker 5: Didn't send him down.
22:36
Speaker 3: It worked. It worked, The threat work, it worked.
22:39
Speaker 5: And then he became a picture later but still epic.
22:42
Speaker 3: All right, we're tight on time. I got one more
22:43
Speaker 3: for Clint. Back to the Yankees for a moment, because
22:46
Speaker 3: you talked about your experience has been really vocal about
22:48
Speaker 3: you know, how it's tough for young player and especially
22:51
Speaker 3: go through a system like that. Media like that somebody
22:55
Speaker 3: who's pretty quiet on the team now has him become
22:58
Speaker 3: a superstar. Was highly Anthony Bolpi seems to be the
23:02
Speaker 3: guy that Yankee fans are picking on right now. His
23:04
Speaker 3: defense is taking a step back. If that's okay, What
23:07
Speaker 3: would be your advice for someone like him to try
23:09
Speaker 3: and get through that?
23:11
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know Anthony beyond meeting him in
23:19
Speaker 1: the lobby at Yankee Stadium the day that he got drafted, right,
23:22
Speaker 1: I didn't have much interactions around him. But if I
23:24
Speaker 1: could give him any advice, it would be like, brother,
23:29
Speaker 1: we got to get off social media. Like, like I
23:31
Speaker 1: know that everyone says they're not affected by the things,
23:34
Speaker 1: Like you would have to get off of it. You'd
23:36
Speaker 1: have to just trust what got you there. Like, I
23:38
Speaker 1: know that Volpi's in a tough situation because, like you know, D. D.
23:41
Speaker 1: Gregorias was there, Jeter was obviously there. Like there's a
23:45
Speaker 1: lot of people that there's a lot of big shoes
23:47
Speaker 1: that he's having to fill, and you know, I know
23:50
Speaker 1: that he he's got it in him, But like I
23:54
Speaker 1: think he's just one of these guys bro that the
23:56
Speaker 1: media is just picking on him. Because they're running out
23:58
Speaker 1: of people to go after, and so so if he
24:00
Speaker 1: can find a way to silence that outside noise. You know,
24:04
Speaker 1: pressure does one of two things. It creates diamonds or
24:06
Speaker 1: it busts pipes. And so find a way to be
24:10
Speaker 1: that diamond in the rough that that the Yankees are
24:12
Speaker 1: hoping that you can be in and just no pressure, man, Like,
24:15
Speaker 1: I know that's tough to say, but like you're struggling
24:19
Speaker 1: right now, So what's the worst that can happen if
24:20
Speaker 1: you go out there and just try to like play
24:22
Speaker 1: as free as you can and and and just ultimately
24:25
Speaker 1: just be what Anthony Volpi wants to be. It's like,
24:28
Speaker 1: there's no better person to be than yourself, So don't
24:30
Speaker 1: try to fill the shoes of someone else.
24:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it.
24:33
Speaker 3: I like it, especially that first part too. Just get
24:35
Speaker 3: off socials for a little bit. Don't look because the fans,
24:39
Speaker 3: I mean it's more the fans than the media on
24:40
Speaker 3: this one. Like we have our Yankee show Pinstripe Territory,
24:43
Speaker 3: and I listened last night and whoof they were bringing it.
24:46
Speaker 3: They're like, We're done that. He's not our short stub anymore.
24:49
Speaker 3: I'm like, relax, but but that's what you get here.
24:52
Speaker 3: The expectations are higher when you're with an organization that
24:56
Speaker 3: has a massive fan base that.
24:57
Speaker 5: And they're expected to win.
24:59
Speaker 3: That is expecting to win. And he was originally looked
25:02
Speaker 3: at as, Oh, he's going to be a superstar. He
25:03
Speaker 3: hasn't been a superstar yet for the first few seasons. Anyway,
25:06
Speaker 3: It's it's interesting. I'm just like, yeah, he does have
25:09
Speaker 3: a gold glove. Yeah, defense took a step back this year.
25:11
Speaker 5: Battle gloves are great, but what's that Fans don't really care, right,
25:18
Speaker 5: I mean, just tell me if I'm wrong. Right, gold
25:20
Speaker 5: gloves are great and all, but like, oh, cool, he
25:22
Speaker 5: plays great defense. Can he get me a hit? Like,
25:25
Speaker 5: especially in New York, Like they got a hit?
25:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I I came in I like COVID
25:31
Speaker 1: season came in second and the gold glove and everyone
25:33
Speaker 1: knew that was fake.
25:34
Speaker 2: So like for me, it's just like.
25:37
Speaker 1: I only got a gold glove because I could hit,
25:39
Speaker 1: you know, like and I fully believe that. So like, bro,
25:44
Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, if if Casman is looking
25:46
Speaker 1: at me in the face and say, hits bring you friends, like,
25:48
Speaker 1: then I don't really care about the glove.
25:50
Speaker 2: As much as I do about the bat. Yep.
25:52
Speaker 3: I love that he was wearing the beard under the
25:54
Speaker 3: mask too. I didn't even realize that that's good.
25:57
Speaker 2: That's whole year. Yeah, whole year.
26:01
Speaker 3: I like that.
26:02
Speaker 2: Clint.
26:02
Speaker 3: This was awesome and I hope you enjoyed it. You're
26:04
Speaker 3: really good. Great answers, We'll have you back. Appreciate the time, man.
26:08
Speaker 1: Good to see you all right, guys, thanks for thanks
26:11
Speaker 1: for having me and hey, aj go White songs.
26:14
Speaker 5: Baby put my captain on for it.
26:18
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
26:22
Speaker 3: Give plan to follow at Clint Fraser's really good follow
26:25
Speaker 3: on X and all that.
26:26
Speaker 2: Thank Clint.
26:27
Speaker 3: We'll catch you down the road.