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MYSTERIOUS CASH APP RANSOM NOTE FOR MISSING TEXAS BEAUTY: WHERE IS KALIE? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. What does a mysterious cash
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  Speaker 1: at ransom note tell us about the missing Texas beauty? Tonight?
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  Speaker 1: Where is Kelly? I'm Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: We're asking any residents in the city of Baytown in
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  Speaker 2: the Houston area to check their properties, out buildings, and
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  Speaker 2: any surveillance footage from the days around her disappearance. Any
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  Speaker 2: detail could provide critical information to help us bring her
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  Speaker 2: home and low care.
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  Speaker 1: That from our friends at kp RC two Houston. Kelly's
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  Speaker 1: family is desperate for your help. Let me just give
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  Speaker 1: you the tip line right off the top. Seven eight
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  Speaker 1: six five zero nine seven one three five repeat seven
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  Speaker 1: eight six five zero nine seven one three five everyone,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for being with us tonight. Joining us is
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  Speaker 1: Kelly's mother. First of all, straight out to Kelly's mother,
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  Speaker 1: Casey Richardson, Miss Richardson, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: I've just got to ask you, right off the top,
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  Speaker 1: how do you put one foot in front of the
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  Speaker 1: other with your baby missing? I call her your baby.
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  Speaker 1: I know she's a grown, beautiful, lovely young woman, but
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  Speaker 1: how are you doing it?
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  Speaker 3: I have a autistic child i'm raising. Two of them
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  Speaker 3: are in elementary, one of them is in three girls
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  Speaker 3: that i'm raising still, and that is what's keeping me going.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have a choice, these babies I have to raise.
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  Speaker 1: When did you first realize Kelly is missing? I wrote
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  Speaker 1: the twenty second what happened Miss Richardson.
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  Speaker 4: It was about eleven something am and I got a
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  Speaker 4: phone call from a unknown number that I didn't recognize,
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  Speaker 4: and I picked it up and.
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  Speaker 3: All I could hear was a man yelling over and
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  Speaker 3: over and over I want my f and money.
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  Speaker 5: I want my f and money. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
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  Speaker 5: what's going on? And he's like, no, she e f
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  Speaker 5: and stole from me. I want my f and money.
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  Speaker 5: And I said wait, wait, who what's going on?
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  Speaker 6: Like?
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  Speaker 3: And then Kayley is in the background going, Mama, please
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  Speaker 3: help me. My face is so disformed, Mama, please, And
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  Speaker 3: I can hear them in the background, and every time
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  Speaker 3: she tries, she'd get pistol whipped.
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  Speaker 1: How do you what makes you think she was being
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  Speaker 1: pistol whipped in the background because the guy.
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  Speaker 3: In the other background, and the other guy in the
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  Speaker 3: background was like, that's enough, man, that's enough. You know
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  Speaker 3: no more and every time she got hate, I need
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  Speaker 3: to hear her screaming.
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  Speaker 1: Kelle Goodwin, a beautiful young girl. Her whole world in
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  Speaker 1: front of her has seemingly vanished off the face of
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  Speaker 1: the earth. And then this disturbing phone call to her mother,
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  Speaker 1: Casey joining us, now joining me an all star panel
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  Speaker 1: in addition to Kelly's mom straight out to Lauren Conlin
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  Speaker 1: joining us investigative reporter. You can find her at Popcrime
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  Speaker 1: Dot TV. Lauren, thank you for being with us. I
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  Speaker 1: want to take this from A to Z starting at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning. Tell me what happened at the onset, Lauren.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: So Kaylee was last seen being picked up by an
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  Speaker 8: unknown person at her apartment in Baytown, and this was
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  Speaker 8: twenty first, twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: She told a friend that she was going to.
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  Speaker 9: Visit a friend in Houston, and now we know that
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  Speaker 9: she subsequently went missing after her mother received this phone call.
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  Speaker 10: The day after Kaylee heads to Houston, mom Casey Richardson
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  Speaker 10: gets a call from an unknown number. When she picks
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  Speaker 10: up a man says he has Kaylee and he'll hurt
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  Speaker 10: her unless Casey pays him five hundred dollars in amount
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  Speaker 10: he claims Kaylee stole from his car. In the background,
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  Speaker 10: Casey can hear Kaylee crying and screaming for help. Then
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  Speaker 10: she hears her daughter get hit with something metal. Kaylee
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  Speaker 10: cries out, help me, mom, they're beating me. My face
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  Speaker 10: is so deformed.
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  Speaker 1: Miss Richardson, are you convinced that your daughter was truly
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  Speaker 1: being beaten? A lot of people are arguing, with which
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  Speaker 1: I disagree. I might add, your daughter has no history
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  Speaker 1: of scamming, of hoaxing, nothing, and from what I understand,
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  Speaker 1: her screams were real. Describe again from me what you
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  Speaker 1: heard on that call.
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  Speaker 3: A mother knows their child's scare, voice in scarecry.
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  Speaker 11: At the end of the day, you can't fake that
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  Speaker 11: scare and that cry A mother knows.
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  Speaker 1: And we learn more about this cash demand.
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  Speaker 12: Listen, Casey can hear someone continuing to hit Kaylee and
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  Speaker 12: eventually the caller tells them to stop. The caller tells
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  Speaker 12: Casey to send the money to a cash app account
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  Speaker 12: one zero zero seven owens, but until they receive the transfer,
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  Speaker 12: they will continue to hurt Kaylee. When they hang up,
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  Speaker 12: Casey frantically tries to call Kaylee, but she isn't picking
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  Speaker 12: up the phone.
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  Speaker 1: Miss Richardson, what went through your mind at the end
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  Speaker 1: of that hang up? I immediately called my husband.
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  Speaker 3: He walked off the site of his job twenty five
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  Speaker 3: minutes away without saying anything. He came straight home and
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  Speaker 3: we went straight to the police station.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me how much were they asking for when they
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  Speaker 1: were beating your daughter.
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  Speaker 13: This conversation went on for a good nine minutes. So
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  Speaker 13: I at first was like, look, look, just calm down.
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  Speaker 7: And I tried to, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, blame the mama, bear with him.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like I understand, you know, And I tried
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  Speaker 3: to compromise with him, and I'm like, just calm down.
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  Speaker 3: And I realized this wasn't a joke, and I said, please,
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  Speaker 3: I will get you the money.
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  Speaker 1: Just stop hurting her. I beg you please stop hurting her.
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  Speaker 1: Straight out to Brian Fitzgibbons, joining us Director Operations the
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  Speaker 1: USPA Nationwide Security specializing and locating missing people. He has
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  Speaker 1: served in Iraq and beyond. Brian, thank you for being
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  Speaker 1: with us. Doesn't any idiot know that cash app is traceable? Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: This was certainly perplexing Nancy that the demand was made
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  Speaker 7: to send a certain amount of six dollars to a
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  Speaker 7: specific cash app, so it speaks to the mental state
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  Speaker 7: of Kayley's captor, you know right away, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: But on the other hand, to Wendy Patrick, joining US
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  Speaker 1: California prosecutor, founder of black Swan Verdicts and author of
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  Speaker 1: Why Bad Looks Good and many more, Wendy, just like
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  Speaker 1: you can set up a fake email, you can get
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  Speaker 1: a fake phone. You know, you can have an alternate
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  Speaker 1: cell phone number, untraceable, well for most purposes, untraceable back
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  Speaker 1: to you. You can also set up a fake cash
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  Speaker 1: app account. So it can be done.
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  Speaker 6: It's easy to be done, And Nancy, that's one of
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  Speaker 6: the reasons we need much more than simply tracing a
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  Speaker 6: current phone, whether it's a burner phone, whether it's a
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  Speaker 6: current cash app. But one of the things that you
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  Speaker 6: also want to look at is all the evidence surrounding
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  Speaker 6: the use of the device. That would include geolocation if
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  Speaker 6: you can get it, that would include voice, time of day,
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  Speaker 6: sounds in the background, accent. So there's so much more
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  Speaker 6: available to look at than simply the use of the device.
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  Speaker 6: Because you're right, that's a dime a dozen. You buy
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  Speaker 6: it at the store and then you throw it in
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  Speaker 6: a trash can somewhere, but it's just one good place
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  Speaker 6: to start when you're starting at the beginning of an investigation.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Karen's starting with me. We're now a psychologist,
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  Speaker 1: radio TV trauma experts. She's at karenstart dot com. Karen.
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  Speaker 1: I find it very peculiar. Of course, I don't understand
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  Speaker 1: the cause of crime, generally speaking, including especially violent crime.
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  Speaker 1: But to go to all of this for six hundred
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  Speaker 1: dollars to kidnap someone, beat them, call her mother, put
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  Speaker 1: her mother in ha double l for six hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 1: and then you use a cash app account, which is
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  Speaker 1: easily traceable unless you've gone to the time and difficult
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  Speaker 1: of creating a false cash app under somebody else's name,
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  Speaker 1: going to a fake phone number, going to a fake email.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot of effort for six hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 14: I don't think it's about the six hundred dollars, Nancy,
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  Speaker 14: and I don't think anyone else does. This is about
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  Speaker 14: somebody who enjoys doing what he's doing. He's a sociopath,
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  Speaker 14: he's a narcissist. He wants to inflict pain. He doesn't
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  Speaker 14: have feelings, he has no emotions, so actually he gets
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  Speaker 14: enjoyment from the fact that I'm sorry to her mom.
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  Speaker 14: But he does get enjoyment from people suffering, or he
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  Speaker 14: wouldn't be violent. He's out of control and that's his personality.
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  Speaker 14: We need to understand that this is something that has
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  Speaker 14: nothing to do with money and has everything to do
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  Speaker 14: with him wanting to inflict pain.
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  Speaker 1: It wouldn't be the first time that a ransom or
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  Speaker 1: a kidnapp it was really masquerading that it was actually
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  Speaker 1: something much more sinister. Do I need to bring up
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  Speaker 1: the name John Benet Ramsey. In the John bene Ramsey case,
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  Speaker 1: the amount of the ransom in itself was peculiar, much
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  Speaker 1: as in the case the case in Chief of Killey.
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  Speaker 1: It was one hundred and eighteen thousand dollars, a very
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  Speaker 1: peculiar amount for a kidnapper to ask for. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: the ransom and the amount of that was all a
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  Speaker 1: lie and it covered for a murder. John Beney was
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  Speaker 1: not taken from the home. She was killed in the home,
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  Speaker 1: and the so called kidnapper felt perfectly at ease sitting
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  Speaker 1: in the home writing not only a ransom note, but
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  Speaker 1: a practice ransom note. What does that mean in this case?
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  Speaker 1: The case we're talking about today the case of Killy Goodwin.
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  Speaker 1: To you, Brian Fitzgils, following up on what Karen start
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  Speaker 1: just said about the ransom being bogus to six hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 1: it's a crazy amount to go through all of that
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  Speaker 1: for six hundred dollars, to beat Kelly, to call her
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  Speaker 1: mother and inflict pain, emotional pain on her mother for
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  Speaker 1: six hundred dollars, really, so what would be the genesis,
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  Speaker 1: what would be the motive of this?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that doesn't make sense, Nancy. Six hundred dollars is
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  Speaker 7: a wild amount of money to be demanding ransom from
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  Speaker 7: from somebody's mother. You know, we have to be thinking
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  Speaker 7: at this moment of you know, telling this story that
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  Speaker 7: the person who's perpetrating this is not mentally stable in
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  Speaker 7: the slightest that that her captor is not stable.
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Gray.
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  Speaker 10: Kaylee Brooke Goodwin, aged twenty nine, lives in Baytown, Texas,
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  Speaker 10: a suburb of Houston. She's a beloved granddaughter, daughter, sister,
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  Speaker 10: and dog mom to Pomeranian tinker Bell. Kaylee is close
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  Speaker 10: with her mom, Casey Richardson, and is known as a
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  Speaker 10: great friend with a sweet soul and a brilliant smile,
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  Speaker 10: but when mom.
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  Speaker 1: Calls Ellie law enforcement, she is highly disappointed and deeply
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  Speaker 1: agitated by what they say listen.
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  Speaker 10: Unsure what to do, Casey calls Baytown Police and gives
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  Speaker 10: them every detail of the call. However, officers are not
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  Speaker 10: convinced Kaylee is in real danger. They ask Casey if
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  Speaker 10: Kaylee is low on cash or using drugs, and while
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  Speaker 10: Casey denies both theories, officers still believe Kaylee might be
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  Speaker 10: trying to scam her for money and tell her the
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  Speaker 10: ransom phone call is likely an elaborate hoax. Casey continues
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  Speaker 10: trying to get in touch with her daughter, but with
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  Speaker 10: no luck. Reports Kaylee the next day.
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  Speaker 1: Man, I would be lying on the police station front
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  Speaker 1: steps screaming if they tried to tell me, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: your little girl's not missing. She's probably high on drug
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  Speaker 1: she's probably with her boyfriend. She's probably trying to scam you.
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  Speaker 1: That's total bs to Casey Richardson, this is Kelly's mom.
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  Speaker 1: What happened when you try to report her missing? I
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  Speaker 1: went to the police station with my husband. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: call him. We went up.
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  Speaker 3: There and I went in there and I said, look,
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  Speaker 3: this is what's happening.
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  Speaker 1: Something is wrong.
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  Speaker 14: I need help.
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  Speaker 15: And the lady behind the desk said, look, we've had
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  Speaker 15: a lot.
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  Speaker 11: Of scams go around. You know, it's probably a scam.
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  Speaker 15: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I hate to tell.
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  Speaker 11: You, you know, And I'm like, listen, if something happened
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  Speaker 11: to my daughter, I want something saying I was here.
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  Speaker 3: So then she goes behind the desk and gets a
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  Speaker 3: wanted police officer in a in their their uniform, and
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  Speaker 3: so then she walks out and hands me a card
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  Speaker 3: and gives me the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we've had a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot of scams, and you know, if your daughter's on
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  Speaker 3: drugs or you know, if she's doing something change, she's
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  Speaker 3: trying to scam you.
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  Speaker 1: And I hate to tell you that.
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  Speaker 15: So, thinking that.
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  Speaker 3: I needed to wait twenty four hours to do a
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  Speaker 3: missing casing missing persons, I should have. I should have
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  Speaker 3: figured it out. It's not twenty four hours. You do
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  Speaker 3: not have to wait twenty four hours.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I went back up there with.
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  Speaker 15: My husband the next day to the station.
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  Speaker 3: And I said him here to do a missing person's report,
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  Speaker 3: and and.
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  Speaker 11: She acts like she didn't want to take it, and.
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  Speaker 3: She started asking questions and she said location, and I said,
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  Speaker 3: excuse me.
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  Speaker 15: And she said, I need location or I can't do
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  Speaker 15: the report.
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  Speaker 1: I said, is this a joke?
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  Speaker 11: If I knew the location, I wouldn't be reporting her
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  Speaker 11: is a missing person.
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  Speaker 16: Well there's ma'am.
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  Speaker 3: I can't do nothing without a location. So I marked
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  Speaker 3: out of there with my husband.
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  Speaker 1: I'm crying.
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting on the phone with my lawyer and I
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  Speaker 3: he said, no, you marched right back in there, and
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  Speaker 3: you give her her address.
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  Speaker 16: And I did, and.
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  Speaker 3: She took the report. It took a long time, with
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  Speaker 3: an attitude.
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  Speaker 1: And who this person? Do you have the person's name
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  Speaker 1: because they need to be fired. Uh. Yeah.
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  Speaker 17: This is right in the middle of the whole police
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  Speaker 17: station getting moved to a brand new three story, so
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  Speaker 17: everything is in chaos.
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  Speaker 1: They're moving the court to the three building.
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  Speaker 3: The forensics, everything, so everything is just.
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  Speaker 1: Dis rad Let me ask you, was the police officer
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  Speaker 1: suggesting that Kelly herself was scamming you or someone was
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  Speaker 1: pretending to be Kelly, Because that actually is a scam
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  Speaker 1: where someone pretends to be your child and they go, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I've been in a car accident or I've got a
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  Speaker 1: duy and I don't want to tell my family, can
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  Speaker 1: you please send me five hundred dollars? That actually is
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  Speaker 1: a real scam. And I investigated it and interviewed victims
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  Speaker 1: that were scammed. Are they telling were they telling you that?
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  Speaker 1: Or that Kelly herself was trying to jip you out
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  Speaker 1: of money?
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  Speaker 15: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Me, Kelly herself is trying to get me out of money.
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  Speaker 1: How would they know that? They don't know, Kelly.
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  Speaker 3: It took a week and a half before a detective
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  Speaker 3: even you got a hold in me.
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  Speaker 1: To Wendy Patrick, a veteran prosecutor and founder of black
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  Speaker 1: Swan of Verdicts, also author Wendy how many times have
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  Speaker 1: we covered cases and investigated them ourselves where police and
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  Speaker 1: sheriffs say, oh, she'll be back, she's out. You can
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  Speaker 1: fill in the blank with her boyfriend. That's what they
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  Speaker 1: said about Stacy Peterson. She's been missing how many years now?
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  Speaker 1: You can fill in the blank. She's out doing drugs,
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  Speaker 1: she's with her boyfriend, she's just taking a breather. She's
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  Speaker 1: trying to scam you. Why that's not their decision to
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  Speaker 1: make Wendy Patrick, You're right, We've.
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  Speaker 6: Covered plenty, plenty of cases like this where you know.
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  Speaker 18: Investigation is an evidence based process, and that is true
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  Speaker 18: whether or not you're investigating the substance of the tip
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  Speaker 18: or whether you're investigating the credibility of the tip. And
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  Speaker 18: without any evidence that there's an nefarious purpose behind the request,
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  Speaker 18: behind the report in this case, behind what Kallie's mom
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  Speaker 18: is saying, what Casey is expressing to the police, without
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  Speaker 18: any evidence to doubt it, you would expect that that
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  Speaker 18: would have moved forward instead now finding evidence of who
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  Speaker 18: did it, the perpetrator, the motive, and everything else that's
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  Speaker 18: involved in an investigation.
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  Speaker 6: Now that's not to say there might be some cases
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  Speaker 6: in some jurisdictions that come in with evidence of credibility issues,
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  Speaker 6: but there's no evidence to believe that was true here,
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  Speaker 6: and that's what's important.
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  Speaker 1: Where is a Texas beauty Cally Goodwin goes missing? This
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  Speaker 1: after her mother gets a horrific phone call where she
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  Speaker 1: hears Kelly being beaten, screaming, crying. Then she hears an
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  Speaker 1: unknown male demands six hundred dollars be sent to a
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  Speaker 1: cash app Since then, no indication of Kelly's whereabout, but
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  Speaker 1: we do now have a sliver of evidence. A gray
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  Speaker 1: Sedan listen.
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  Speaker 12: Now officially considered a missing person bytown police confirmed with
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  Speaker 12: Kaylee's friend that she last saw Kaylee getting into a
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  Speaker 12: Gray Sedan around seven pm outside her apartment in the
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  Speaker 12: thirty one hundred block of Deckor Drive. The friend tells
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  Speaker 12: detectives Kaylee said she was going to South Houston. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 12: officers work to find the owner of the cash app
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  Speaker 12: account the ransom caller provided. Finding the owner is a
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  Speaker 12: Danielle Owens.
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  Speaker 1: So the guy demanding money is not the one registered
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  Speaker 1: to that cash app account. That person would be a
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  Speaker 1: mysterious Danielle Owens. But we're learning more. Listen. Kayleie Goodwin
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  Speaker 1: wraps up a.
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  Speaker 12: Conversation with a friend, letting her know that she's planning
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  Speaker 12: to stay in Houston for a few days, looking forward
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  Speaker 12: to spending a few days in the city. Country arrives
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  Speaker 12: to pick up Kaylee around seven o'clock, so her friends
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  Speaker 12: s her goodbyes as she watches Kaylee get in the
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  Speaker 12: passenger seat of a Gray s a Dan.
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  Speaker 1: Now, when you hear the reporter with crimeonline dot Com
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  Speaker 1: state Country, that's actually a guy's nickname, his moniker, his
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  Speaker 1: street name. He goes by the name Country. Okay, first
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  Speaker 1: things first, too, Lauren Collins joining US investigative reporter Lauren
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  Speaker 1: Danielle Owens. That is what I want to hear first.
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  Speaker 1: Who is Danielle Owens who actually owns or is registered
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  Speaker 1: to the cash app.
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  Speaker 9: Danielle Owens is actually dating this country character. And when
• 20:41
  Speaker 9: investigators began looking into Kaylee's disappearance and the Chevy Malibu
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  Speaker 9: that she got into this the dan that night they
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  Speaker 9: put two and two together. Danielle Owens was the owner
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  Speaker 9: of this vehicle and also the owner of this cash
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  Speaker 9: app account.
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  Speaker 1: To Wendy Patrick joining me, California prosecutor and author, Wendy,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you have heard of the so called people
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  Speaker 1: Court mom Michelle Parker. She goes missing after she drops
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  Speaker 1: her children off, her two children off with her ex.
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  Speaker 1: The last clue we've got for her is finding her
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  Speaker 1: vehicle parked in an apartment complex. Why was it easy
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: to find her vehicle? Her vehicle had a company that
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: she started emblazoned on the side right in pink letters,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: so cops were looking for that vehicle. So often we
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: trace people and crackcases based on vehicles. Here's another example.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Coburger, who is yet to be proven guilty but
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  Speaker 1: his wife Elantra was spotted by seven to eleven. A
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  Speaker 1: convenience store clerk lately late at night, like three am
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  Speaker 1: in the morning, flying by, not too far away from
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  Speaker 1: the king wrote address where four beautiful University Idaho students
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  Speaker 1: were murdered in their beds. So in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: the night, the clerk happens to notice a car flying by.
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  Speaker 1: But a lady clerk dug through hours and hours and
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  Speaker 1: hours of video surveillance from the convenience store and spots
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  Speaker 1: the white Elantra, Then a white spotted near the king
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  Speaker 1: wrote address. Then a white Elantra matching that description is
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  Speaker 1: found at Pullman, where Brian Coberg was getting his PhD
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  Speaker 1: in criminology. So very often the car is the key, Wendy.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely true. And if you think of that, it's why
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: when we were back in high school, we knew what
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: everybody drove.
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  Speaker 15: We know what all our neighbors drive.
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  Speaker 6: Our vehicles are extensions of ourselves, either personally or professionally.
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  Speaker 6: But it is profound evidence when solving a missing person's case.
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  Speaker 6: Not only does everybody have some kind of ring camera technology,
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: or at least most people do, attached to their home,
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  Speaker 6: their vehicles their workplace. But we also tend to recognize
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  Speaker 6: cars that we either see frequently or that we don't,
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: and that's one of the reasons even being associated with
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  Speaker 6: the vehicle is something for the police to start with,
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  Speaker 6: because a missing person is a community issue where everybody
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  Speaker 6: pulls together, much in the way that you're going to
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  Speaker 6: hear that it happens in this case like an area.
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  Speaker 1: Let me go straight back out to a special guest,
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  Speaker 1: Brian Fitzgibbons joining us USPA Nationwide Security. Could you explain
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  Speaker 1: how a licensed grammar or a license plate reader LPR,
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  Speaker 1: how does it work? And why can we rely on it?
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  Speaker 1: Because I've never known it fail.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. So these are cameras, Nancy, that are capturing either
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  Speaker 7: the front or the rear license plate of the vehicle
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  Speaker 7: and then storing that data daytime location that's easily searchable
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  Speaker 7: by investigators.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's.
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  Speaker 7: Important to note here that Baytown PD was, you know,
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  Speaker 7: as frustrating as the initial interaction may have been with
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  Speaker 7: Miss Richardson, they were able to quickly sync up in
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  Speaker 7: an interagency effort with Houston PD to get all this
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  Speaker 7: information to start to track down Flowers.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're pretty ready to forgive Baytown PD for
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  Speaker 1: let me just say it's technical legal term crapping all
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  Speaker 1: over the mother when she tried to report her daughter missing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to give them credit for looping in Houston
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  Speaker 1: PD and then they do the work. Is that what
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  Speaker 1: you just said, because I'm not going for that.
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  Speaker 7: No, I'm certainly not quick to forgive. And you know
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  Speaker 7: I'm working directly with Miss Richardson on this case, so
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: I share her frustrations wholeheartedly.
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  Speaker 1: I was just pointing out, what if they did pick
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  Speaker 1: the phone up and ask Houston PD to help, which
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  Speaker 1: they did. I've never known an LPR to be wrong. Ever.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know necessarily understand all the technology, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't need to. I don't need to know how it works.
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  Speaker 1: I just need to know it works. So Lauren Conlin, again,
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  Speaker 1: lpr's license plate readers critical, but my question is we're
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  Speaker 1: missing a link right there. How did either Houston PD
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  Speaker 1: or a Baytown PD get the tag number for the
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  Speaker 1: license plate reader to work.
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  Speaker 9: Kayley was picked up at the Decker Drive apartments, and
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  Speaker 9: investigators took the surveillance footage from the apartments and just
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  Speaker 9: zeroed in on the license plate there, and that's when
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  Speaker 9: they realized who the.
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  Speaker 1: Carbew got it. Okay, brilliant Lauren Colin. Who did that?
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  Speaker 1: Baytown PD or Houston PD?
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  Speaker 9: This is Assistant Chief Steve Doris, which I believe is
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  Speaker 9: Baytown PD.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I got to give Baytown a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: credit right now, because they got that license plate and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: because of that, it was fed to a license plate reader,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: and because of that, the vehicle was found near the
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: apartment complex where Kelly was last seen. Now here's a
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: whole nother can of worms. To Karen Stark, psychologists adjoining us, Karen,
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  Speaker 1: you heard the French. She was at her friend's house
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  Speaker 1: at the Ducker Apartments. That's where she got the ride
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  Speaker 1: in the gray sedan and she went with the guy
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  Speaker 1: Moniker Street named Country. She got in the car with
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  Speaker 1: someone she didn't really know that well, do I have
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  Speaker 1: to say, Natalie Holloway out on her senior trip and
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  Speaker 1: she gets in the car with your vander Slut and
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  Speaker 1: the Kalpoe brothers. She's never seen alive again, but she
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: had Karen Stark the sense that she knew you're in
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  Speaker 1: vander Slute because he had been hanging around the group
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  Speaker 1: the travel group from Birmingham, so she had had several
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  Speaker 1: conversations with him and felt that she knew him well
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  Speaker 1: enough to get in the car. She was wrong.
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  Speaker 14: And that's a common problem even here, Nati, because you
• 27:00
  Speaker 14: need to be very careful when it comes to going
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  Speaker 14: anywhere with a stranger, and especially in this day and age,
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  Speaker 14: you just never know who the other person is going
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  Speaker 14: to be. You get a false sense of oh, he
• 27:13
  Speaker 14: seems so nice, I know him, but really don't do it.
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  Speaker 14: And that's an important warning for everyone who's listening to this.
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  Speaker 1: Where is Kelly. We are learning more from the Baytown Police. Listen.
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  Speaker 19: Maytown detectives identified a residence where the registered owner of
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  Speaker 19: the phone that called Kayley's mother resided. That person was
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  Speaker 19: identified as fifty five year old Kevin Patterson. Detectives discovered
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  Speaker 19: evidence linking Kaylee to that residence and learned that while
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  Speaker 19: at that residence she had been assaulted by mister Flowers
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  Speaker 19: and taken from the residence.
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  Speaker 1: That from our friends a kp RC two Houston, we're
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  Speaker 1: learning a lot, and we're learning that from Baytown Police.
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  Speaker 1: They are redeeming themselves. We now know that Baytown detectives
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  Speaker 1: id a residence from which the call was made. And
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  Speaker 1: I assume they did that Brian Fitzgibbons by pinging the call. Yes, no,
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  Speaker 1: because it was a cell phone.
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  Speaker 7: Correct, That is correct, Nancy, that's a tremendous mind.
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  Speaker 1: And we know the person that is registered to that
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  Speaker 1: residence is fifty five year old Kevin Patterson. So now
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at three people. I've got the guy named
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  Speaker 1: Country aka Kwon Flowers. I've got the person who is
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: registered to the cash app, his girlfriend, Danielle Owens. And
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  Speaker 1: now I've got a guy who allows this call to
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  Speaker 1: be made. So now I've got three people involved in this.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: You were just hearing the Baytown Assistant Chief Steve Doris speaking.
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  Speaker 1: So back to Casey Richardson, this is Keilly's mother. That
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: must be overwhelming to think that it's not just one
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: guy who grabbed Keilly. Now you've got three people involved
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  Speaker 1: in her disappearance. So supposedly, in the background.
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  Speaker 16: Kevin kept saying all right, man, that's enough, that's enough.
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  Speaker 16: He's like, no, no, over and over, I want my
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  Speaker 16: freaking Winny. And he's like, that's enough, young, that's anough.
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  Speaker 16: She supposedly Kevin pat it up and didn't want anything
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  Speaker 16: else to go down in his house, or he made
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  Speaker 16: Kevin leave with Kaylee.
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  Speaker 1: Wife is Gibbons. You have been investigating this from the
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  Speaker 1: get go. So to me, you look, out of three people,
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  Speaker 1: you look for the weak link. Okay, since Kwan Flowers
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  Speaker 1: aka Country is the one we think is beating her,
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  Speaker 1: he is not going to roll over and confess. You
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  Speaker 1: have to go to the girlfriend, or you have to
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  Speaker 1: go to the homeowner. They got so afraid he kicked
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  Speaker 1: them out, sadly did not call nine one one, But
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  Speaker 1: that must be where they're getting this information from the
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  Speaker 1: homeowner or the girlfriend.
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  Speaker 7: Correct, And I would say that it's nearly certain that
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  Speaker 7: Patterson has given a statement and is cooperating with police.
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  Speaker 7: Here he was audibly on the phone trying to get
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  Speaker 7: the beatings to stop.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, Brian. Listen.
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  Speaker 20: Both Kevin Patterson and Kwan Flowers are questioned about Kallie Goodwin.
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  Speaker 20: Flowers only answer, last time I saw her, she was
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  Speaker 20: in one piece. Flowers, who's on probation for a drug offense,
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  Speaker 20: is charged with aggravated kidnapping and assault of kille Goodwin.
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  Speaker 20: Flowers has a lengthy rap sheet in and out of
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  Speaker 20: state and was even charged with murder in South Carolina
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  Speaker 20: twenty years ago, those charges were dropped.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Brianitzgibbons, USPA, you didn't tell me that Flowers aka
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Country has a rap sheet as long as I seventy five.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: When you have a group of suspects, you look for
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  Speaker 1: the convicted felon. Tell me about this guy's rap shape.
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  Speaker 7: Going back as far as two thousand and four in
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  Speaker 7: South Carolina, Flowers was arrested in charge with murder. He's
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  Speaker 7: got a long list of violent crimes year after year,
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  Speaker 7: including animal cruelty charges in South Carolina as well armed robbery,
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  Speaker 7: and then, most recently, right now, he is incarcerated and
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  Speaker 7: charged with the murder of twenty four year old Megan
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  Speaker 7: Rouse in Houston, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, wait a minute. Speaking of Megan Rouse, Now we
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: have a very grim connection with this guy who we
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: believe is the one beating Cayley a similar transaction. Listen.
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  Speaker 21: Twelve days after Kaylee's disappearance, twenty four year old Meghan
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  Speaker 21: Rowse has found severely beaten and shot nine times, dumped
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  Speaker 21: on adding Nos, a remote dirt road in South Houston.
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  Speaker 21: Rowse last called a friend about an hour before her death,
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  Speaker 21: and surveillance footage shows the only car that d down
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  Speaker 21: Anagnos road between that call in Meghan's death is the
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  Speaker 21: same gray sedan driven by Kwon Flowers. Shellcasings found at
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  Speaker 21: the scene are also connected to two other shootings.
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  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 20: Aytown police are extremely concerned for Kayley's well being due
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  Speaker 20: to Kuanflower's history of violence, and are asking the public
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  Speaker 20: for help to bring Kaylee home. Kayley is five foot five,
• 32:34
  Speaker 20: one hundred and twenty pounds with long brown hair and
• 32:37
  Speaker 20: his lies. She was last seen wearing a sky blue
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  Speaker 20: sun dress with a sunflower pattern, black sandals, and a
• 32:44
  Speaker 20: white hoodie.
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  Speaker 1: To Kelly's mother, Kasey Richardson joining us, did you ever,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: in your wildest imagination think that you would be putting
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  Speaker 1: out an APB all points bulletin on your daughter and
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: that she was wearing a blue dress with sunflowers and
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: sandals and her description? I did that ever cross your mind?
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: This must seem like it's an episode of the Twilight Zone.
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  Speaker 13: It is, and I feel like I'm in a movie
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  Speaker 13: because the Beytown Police put out a thing saying that
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  Speaker 13: her last her last.
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  Speaker 15: Known of appearance was in Bayham. Okay, that's what they
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  Speaker 15: have out there.
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  Speaker 1: That's not true.
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  Speaker 16: Her last appearance was that I don't.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Understand Brian Fitzgibbons how there's so much misinformation out there.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's frustrating, right, because we know that her last
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  Speaker 7: known location was in the vicinity of Irish Hill Drive
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  Speaker 7: in Houston, Texas. Right, that's where we need to be
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  Speaker 7: looking for eyewitnesses.
• 33:44
  Speaker 21: William Ryan's and his adult daughter are watching TV in
• 33:47
  Speaker 21: their living room when they hear four gunshots. When they
• 33:50
  Speaker 21: feel safe enough to come out of cover, they find
• 33:52
  Speaker 21: shellcasings inside the home. Ryan's daughter later gets a text
• 33:56
  Speaker 21: message taunting her about the shooting, leading her to believe
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  Speaker 21: that what was retaliation from acquaintance Country. She says about
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  Speaker 21: a week before the shooting, Country lured her into his
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  Speaker 21: gray Sedan, tried to make her take drugs from him,
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  Speaker 21: then tried a sexually assault her. She identifies Kwon Flowers
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  Speaker 21: as Country.
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  Speaker 1: There we have our mo modus operandi, method of operation
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  Speaker 1: and the connections to how this guy is identified as Country.
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  Speaker 1: That's how we know that Kwan Flowers with a huge
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  Speaker 1: rap sheet. Why was he out on bon I don't
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: know what, judge, what idiot judge did that, but out
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: on Bonn and here we have another would be kidnap victim.
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  Speaker 1: The mo O I understand, Lauren Conlin, is that he
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: lures a young girl into his gray sedan with the
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: promise of In that case, he tried to get her
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  Speaker 1: to take drugs and then tried to rape her. I'm
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: not sure how he lures the person in the car.
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  Speaker 1: I think in Killy's case, he met her, seemed like
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: a guy, and offered her a ride to where she
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  Speaker 1: wanted to go. But now we've got this woman as
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  Speaker 1: an mo O witness, and we have Megan dead as
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  Speaker 1: a similar transaction.
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  Speaker 9: Yes, this is allegedly a very very dangerous man, and
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  Speaker 9: not only that, Nancy. When investigators zeroed in on Country
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  Speaker 9: or Kwan Flowers, they actually saw a.
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  Speaker 1: Gun, a picture of.
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  Speaker 9: A gun on his cell phone that matched the shell
• 35:31
  Speaker 9: casings in all of the events, the shooting of the
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  Speaker 9: young woman and also Megan.
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  Speaker 1: Ralph Brian Fitzgibbons. We have two believed accomplices, the owner
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  Speaker 1: of the home where the call was made, the girlfriend
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Owens, and now Flowers. But when he was asked
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: about Kelly, he gave a very nonchalant answer. She was
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: in on pace last time I saw her. Where do
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: we go from here? I mean, think about it, Brian.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: A mom gets this call with her daughter being assaulted.
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  Speaker 1: We know he tried to rape another victim. We know
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  Speaker 1: he shot Megan another victim. Where do we go from here?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's and what I will say, Nancy, And we
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: can't share all of this information, but Baytown PD is
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: still executing search warrants as recently as ten days ago
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: for Kayley's case. I want to say this so everybody
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: can hear it. This is allegedly one of the more
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: violent episodes of thirty forty five days in Houston history,
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: in the last perpetrated by one person, you know, from
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: the shooting at the apartment complex to Megan Rows and
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: then Kaylee's disappearance. We look at a lot of background reports, Nancy,
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: and this one was jumped off the page as one
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  Speaker 7: of the more shocking and it's absolutely disturbing how badly
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  Speaker 7: the court system let Kaylee down and let her mother,
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: Casey down.
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  Speaker 15: Here.
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  Speaker 7: This man should have been behind buyers long ago.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't understand. And of course we can all
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: say would have, could have, should have, Brian Fitzgibbons, but
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: letting a violent offender out on bond with a murder
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: charge to his credit. I just don't understand how any
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: judge in his or her right mind can do such
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: a thing, and then come along Keilly Goodwin, minding her
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: own business. Never heard, wouldn't kill a fly, sweet, loving, trusting.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: It reminds me a great deal of Natalie Holloway, no
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  Speaker 1: reason to suspect anything evil at all, had always just
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: worshiped her mom. Just a beautiful girl. Casey, what is yours?
• 38:00
  Speaker 15: So there's something else that has not been brought up
• 38:03
  Speaker 15: within those thirty days. He also shut a man blank
• 38:07
  Speaker 15: seven times in the face, but the same gun. And
• 38:13
  Speaker 15: not only that, there shifts thing as a clear alert.
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  Speaker 16: It was signed. I saw the sticker.
• 38:21
  Speaker 15: Nobody's using this silver alert, and that's the age is
• 38:26
  Speaker 15: between we have eighteen to the senior citizens, okay, and
• 38:32
  Speaker 15: that's whenever you know that there's some distress and they're
• 38:35
  Speaker 15: supposed to put that up the silver alert. So please
• 38:40
  Speaker 15: tell me why I didn't get a detective for a
• 38:43
  Speaker 15: week and a half after I did this missing report
• 38:48
  Speaker 15: to call me in a week. That gives him two
• 38:52
  Speaker 15: weeks to do whatever he feels with her remains or
• 38:58
  Speaker 15: her body or herself.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 22: I called anonymous and they were like, Kaylee, who uh, well,
• 39:07
  Speaker 22: do you have a A number.
• 39:13
  Speaker 15: A crime number right And I was like, no, Maam,
• 39:17
  Speaker 15: I just heard that I need to call this number.
• 39:19
  Speaker 15: And they were like, well, you're gonna have to call
• 39:22
  Speaker 15: back during the order.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Monday to Friday business hours and find a detective stop to.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Here is the correct tip line number. Seven eight six
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  Speaker 1: five zero nine seven one three five repeat seven eight
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  Speaker 1: six five zero nine seven one three five. Casey, what
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: is your message to Kelly?
• 39:46
  Speaker 15: This Mama bear has not stopped for you.
• 39:52
  Speaker 16: That's what she called me, Mama bear.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: That's what they all call mean. I have not stopped.
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  Speaker 15: And baby, if I could have helped you and you called,
• 40:04
  Speaker 15: how it had been there? Old is stopping and I'm
• 40:11
  Speaker 15: sorry I couldn't help you, but I'm not stopping.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not stopping.
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  Speaker 15: You see what I'm talking to right now? Keyy, you've
• 40:26
  Speaker 15: seen this Mom is not stopped and I will not stop.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: If you know or think you know anything about the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: disappearance of Kelly Goodwin, please help us to applind seven
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  Speaker 1: eight six five zero nine seven one three five repeat
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  Speaker 1: seven eight six five zero nine seven one three five
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace signing off Goodbye friend,