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28. From Not Having A Voice To Speaking On International Stages, With Amy Kelly · She Speaks to Scale

• Sarah Collins: Hello and welcome to She Speaks the Scale with me, Sarah Collins. the podcast that empowers women in business to own their voice, be heard and create impact, one communication insight at a time. a former senior television producer for ITV and ITN. It's my mission to bring the communication skills we need to thrive in today's world of business to the generation of women who simply weren't taught them. Whether it's scaling your authority and stepping into thought leadership, scaling your impact on camera on stage and beyond, or scaling your revenue through speaking opportunities, this podcast will help you use your voice to be heard so you're trusted and remembered when it matters most. Amy Kelly is a nervous system and identity coach, keynote speaker, and host of the Dream Big with Amy podcast. After leaving her marriage, buying a one way ticket, and rebuilding her life across 14 countries, she turned her own transformation into a methodology that now reaches women globally. She helps high achieving women who look successful on the outside but feel exhausted and disconnected inside to regulate their nervous system, rebuild their identity, and go after the life they actually want. She is the founder of The Unshakable Woman and is ranked in the top 1% of creators worldwide by Favicon. Let's dive into the conversation. Hi, Amy. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast today. I am really excited about this conversation. It's been a while since we last spoke and we've got so much to cover in this episode. Amy: I know, I'm so excited. Thank you for having me. It's exciting back with you and seeing you again. I think it's been a year since we spoke. Sarah Collins: I know, and what, you've achieved in a year has been incredible. Amy, I start every dresser episode by asking, can you share the moment when you realized your voice truly mattered? Amy: Yeah, I think going through like the the breakdown moment that I went through, like my whole life journey of like figuring everything out. I remember sitting at a table. I was living in Costa Rica at the time. I was helping out like at this surf and Spanish school. And I was around about like a younger crowd. I would say that I think it was about twenty of us. And they were like, Amy, what are you doing? And what like, what's your story? And then I shared a little bit about where I am and what I've been through. And everybody was just listening in silence. They were like, Wow, that is a story. Like you've been through it. And I didn't know that at the time. I just thought, well, everyone does this. Everyone goes through it. But looking at them and then realizing that they were like, you know, you should really speak about this. I was like, should I? Do I need to speak about this? And then in that, then I started having like micro conversations with them all. And they like, Amy, we're like younger and we look up like to you to following something you've wanted to do, which really makes a difference. And at that moment I was like, I need to do something with this. This is this is more than me. And I had like a little voice inside of me that you have a mission and you've got to go and do that. So that's what I did. And I actually think that was a start of my journey of getting into coaching and thinking about what I actually want to do and make a bigger impact in the world. So that was like three years ago now. Sarah Collins: I mean, so much has happened in that three years, hasn't it, Amy: Mm-hmm. Sarah Collins: that we'll talk about. But what you spoke about there is really inspiring other people. Have you found that that's been the case with what you do now? Amy: Yeah, it's a lot, you can kind of feel the pressure a little bit. You're like, wow, people are starting to listen. And I don't take that lightly. I understand that, I'm aware that that is something that I'm very cautious about, what I say and giving advice, but I only really speak from the heart of what actually has changed my life. So for me, it is it feels easy, right? I spoke at a stage and and on a quite a big stage, and I was against like some other people, and I was like the third person. Everyone was very nervous, but for me, I was like, I'm just guided. speaking from the heart. So it feels relatively easy. And I'm aware that people are listening. And the feedback when you know you've done that talk about 10 people came up to me afterwards individually and said, wow Amy, like you move something in me. And you're like, wow, this is actually making an impact. Do you think it's your regular life and this is just how you speak? But really the the ripple effect is huge. That you don't often see, you don't actually know who's listening. So Often just giving that advice and giving more than you want to receive and just putting it out there, one word or one sentence can change somebody else's life and their trajectory of. Sarah Collins: And that is so powerful, isn't it? It really is. Amy: Yeah. Sarah Collins: Now, let's go back to when you were younger, because you said in your notes that for most of your life, you didn't have a voice. And then it took finding that to really change your life. for listeners that don't know you, don't know your story, can you tell us a little bit about that? Amy: Yeah, for sure. I think growing up, definitely I was more of a quiet child, very nervous about the world. My parents were like, Is she okay? Like, what's going on? Why is she always so quiet? And I think till about age five or six, I didn't really speak that much. and I even asked them now to this day, I was like, What was the change point you saw in me? How I went from being so scared to being able to like live the life I've created for myself. They don't know what it is, they don't know what that shift was. I often look at like The parts of my journey, going through, school, to college, to university, and then getting married at a young age and all of them things happening. I think you have to go through things to realize and build up your own confidence. And that takes time. I think for me, realizing that I was meant for more. Like I always had this vision, even as a young child, I was meant for this bigger life. I never could put a finger on it until I started to create towards that. I really do believe that everybody is. put here for reason and we all have a mission. It's whether you're quiet enough to listen to what your mission is. Now I believe also like stronger people are put through things to be able to give back and empower the others. And I do believe that I have like been led in that direction. I kind of co-create a lot of the time. I'm often getting downloads like I need to do this, I need to do that. It can kind of be overwhelming at times because you want to do everything, but you can only do so much. Per day, you know, taking one step and action each, every single day to get you towards that goal that you really want to have. So for me, my journey has been transition over time and always learning to listen to your own intuition. That is one of my strongest assets that I think I have. And everybody has it. You just got to be tuned in enough to listen. And that's where the regulation piece of the work that I do, all of it correlates, working with the mind, the body, and the spirit. So I only knew that. I don't know, in last couple of years to really tap into that. but the catalyst was definitely going through my early divorce and resetting my life at that age at twenty-seven years old. Sarah Collins: And that part about kind of finding your voice again, what was the journey that you had to take to get to that point? Amy: I'm not going to say it was easy because it really wasn't. it's okay looking back now. I'm like sat here, I'm comfortable, it's great, but it wasn't. it was very messy. I was very unsure about the world. When I went through the divorce and moved to the other side of the world, I was absolutely lost. I didn't have my own identity, I didn't know who I was. I didn't know what I wanted from life. So how can I rebuild when I didn't know anything about myself? So at that point in that journey, it was it was tough. I think it takes a lot to move away from something that you thought was forever. and actually really rebuilding on that. And I think it's the ground steps that you've got to do. You've got to do the groundwork. I didn't. I I ignored every signs, every symptoms, every red flag. I ignored everything because I thought I knew best. And really, all I needed to do was feel safe in the body. When I created that new life and them new steps, when I, started traveling and started to really listen to myself. I realized how much of my journey I'd been ignoring who I really am. Sarah Collins: Mm. Amy: You know, scared of my. success scared of my possibilities. And that really implicated me in other ways like my health and not like leading myself in relationships and money and business. Loads of things will be the domino effect to that if you do not listen. So when I speak, I really hold my voice. Could I have done this three years ago? Probably not. I was not in a place to be able to do this. You have to do the inner work first, which I I see a lot of times is missed, especially when We're going through like the coaching world and like really stepping into that new identity. The actual work starts on the inside. And I had to learn that the hard way. Sarah Collins: it's so interesting, isn't it? really resonated with what you said there about feeling like you're meant for more, because I definitely felt like that as well. Amy: Mm. Sarah Collins: And I just didn't realize what that really looked like. meant leaving what I knew, to actually be able to find my voice. I wanted to touch on there you're talking about that identity piece and I think a lot of that, is about having that confidence and trust in yourself, isn't it? What Amy: Yeah. Sarah Collins: would you say has been the biggest thing that you've done to have that belief and that trust and confidence? Amy: I think really, like I say, the intuition part is a big piece of everything that I do. I ignored it for a very long time. It cost me my nearly my life, like when I went through the near-death experience. I learned how to regulate every single day because I've been through some things that have been like quite traumatic. How do you get back to who you really are? That's creating safety in the body, creating a life that you want to live, living with purpose. And it took time to find all of that. I didn't figure this out the next day. it's a gradual process. And I think you have to enjoy the journey of your becoming. You know, most people wait, well, wait a couple of weeks, or wait a year. You've got to keep going. I mean, one of my mentors taught me is like messy inspired action, Amy. You've got to keep going. Sarah Collins: Yeah. Amy: Cut keep moving. I know it's hard and I know it's difficult at times. And I know you can't always see the long path ahead. It it just isn't like that. And sometimes a life you vision or like the life you've built isn't always the same like the direction you should be in. And I think I've learned how to quickly redirect my life. When things are not aligning, learning to move with that path, you know, learning to, okay, well that wasn't for me. Let's take the lesson and let's move. Because a lot of the time when you're in that spiral and you're going down and down and down, that's okay. I mean, I'm not saying that we can't have bad days, but when you are having that bad day, you've got to be learned to get out of it as quick as you go into it. That's the secret, right? You go into it, but you've got to get out of that. And that's where the regulation piece comes in, like stepping into your identity, learning to master your emotions and being self-aware. Aware that, okay, right now we're women, we go have cycles through the month. We're going to have times where things are good and things are not good. So learning to manage that throughout the month actually is very stabilizing and one of the things I had to learn. especially like traveling and moving away and creating a new business, which is a whole nother thing in itself, of actually doing the regulation every single day. And I think often people miss is sleeping, eating, routine. The body likes to have consistency. So if you are going through something that is kind of life changing or knocking you out of your normal path, get back to regulation every single day. Sarah Collins: That's so fascinating. you haven't said yet, but you are a previous client of mine and we will get into Amy: I am. Sarah Collins: how we work together and what changes you make from that experience. But when we go into actually that nervous system and identity piece, it's not really something I've covered on the podcast as yet. You talk about having a dysregulated... nervous system and from what I've seen is something that stops women from using their voice, from taking those speaking opportunities. Would you say that's the case in your experience and if so what could we do to change that? Amy: I didn't realise the difference. I am a previous client and we we spoke about dysregulation. I was always using this word, but then it wasn't really resonating with anybody. And I was like, why? Then I realized nobody knows what dysregulation is. Well, most people don't. I had no idea. If you just told younger Amy, you're dysregulated, I'd be like, What do you mean? What what are you talking about? I don't know what dysregulation is. I didn't even know what nervous system regulation is. So how can I know the difference? So speaking more into what actually is a dysregulated person, like what are their traits, what are you doing, how you behaving? Oftentimes you've been living in that state of mind for so long you don't know the difference. well, I always work all the time, I'm overachieving, I'm always people pleasing, but I'm always exhausted. There's these things that are coming up all the time. And if you're in that state, it's really hard to see anything different. Like a mine was like a breakdown moment there. made me change, but you don't have to get to that. You don't have to get to an absolute moment where it's like a catastrophe. And then you're like, now I need to change my life. You can do that gradually now. Like I say, the first step is creating that routine every single day. And I talk about that so often in my content because seeing how being in your power and being regulated, this is where the real work happens. You know, a lot of the time women ask me, I want to manifest this. I want to I want this dream life. And I lean heavily into the dream life because I know everyone could achieve it, but only if you learn how to regulate first. You learn how to feel safe in the body. You start to realize that you have your own power, that you can create anything you want in your life, that money is energy, like realizing that all of these things are possible for you. But fundamentally, you have to also believe in yourself, undeniably believe in yourself, even when everyone else around you cannot see that path. They don't believe in you. They don't see the vision that you have. They've not walked the same path that you have. They don't have that vision. So, how do you expect them to believe it? That's why, no matter what, even in the silence, you've got to keep building towards that life. So maybe you are looking around right now and you think, well, I want something different. I want to step into my power. Where do I start? And I think being aware of where your life is right now, what is working and what isn't working, that's where I think that. You can really start to get serious about it. Have a look at your whole life as an entirety. Where is what's going well and what isn't? And just be honest with yourself. Stop lying that everything is okay when it's not. And then we start building from there. And then the regulation piece comes in and then we create that future version of you. Sarah Collins: And obviously gain support as well if need be because you can't always do this sort of thing on your own, can you? Amy: No, absolutely not. I did I did I tried and it was a lot harder. Then when I did get, you know, help and mentorship and coaching, my life did genuinely start to change. Sarah Collins: So on that note, Amy and I worked together last year for a period of three months. And I was looking back over your notes and you came to me Amy: Not really. Sarah Collins: because you said, I just want to get my voice out there. your passion comes across so well. But a year ago, you really felt, I would say quite frustrated because you had this mission that you really wanted to share with the world and you just weren't. using it to your full potential. We did a lot of work on your messaging and what that looked like and your story and sharing your story. And something that came to light about the middle of when we were working together was I said to you, Amy, have you shared your story in person? And you said, no, I haven't. And so I made you go and find Amy: Hm. Sarah Collins: a networking event where you could go and actually speak to people. in person. What I find fascinating now is that you have now put a keynote speaker as part of your bio. So just from that process of us working together, what do you do differently now as a result would you say? Amy: I think definitely knowing who I am and who I'm speaking to and not being afraid to share my story. I think I was a little bit nervous. Like I said, over time this last year, I've had a chance to grow and really step into more of that identity piece and why I am who I'm here to lead. being in person really helped me and really owning my own story. Like this is me, this is what I went through, and that's how I got there. Everyone has a different story and different path, but this is mine and this is what worked for me. And I think since working with you, I definitely think it's been a catalyst of lots of different things have happened, but I've also put myself out there. I'm a huge manifestor. I believe in big things, but I don't believe in just sitting there and hoping things happen. from this time last year, I didn't believe in myself the same way I do today. a lot of that's been come through like my own like regulation pieces, really stepping into that version of Amy who already has everything that I really want. Of being really owning that voice, owning my power. What is my mission? Who am I here to help? And I think you were definitely the start of that journey. because really only a year ago was when I decided to get into coaching, I hadn't really stepped into that yet. So that really was the helping and starting point of getting super clear about who I'm here, why I'm here to help, and what my mission really is. Sarah Collins: And that clarity piece, like you said, that grounding work is so important, isn't it? And for the way that I work with clients, again, that clarity piece on just your messaging, who you're talking to, what your story is that you can share. Without that, you just don't know what to say, how to show up, how to use your voice. It's so important to get that grounding work completed. I feel Amy: Yes. Sarah Collins: really proud that I've been a part of your journey and to see what you do Amy: Thank you. Sarah Collins: now. Go and check Amy out on Instagram because her Instagram is just, it's really inspiring. You share your story really well. Amy: Yeah. Sarah Collins: And I know a lot of people struggle with that, but also the way that you speak to camera, Now, just in terms of that identity shift, that was something that I wanted to address with you, because this is part of what you do as well. When it came to stepping into that identity as a speaker, so you're going from actually, I haven't shared my story. I don't really know what my messages are to now, speaking on international stages. I know you've run your own retreats and workshops. What was that identity shift that you had to go through there? Amy: knowing that I am worthy of success, I am allowed to speak my truth, that I'm not going to hold back or let anyone hold me back anymore. And really stepping into that authority, for me it wasn't as easy as just, okay, tomorrow morning I'm gonna wake up and everything's gonna be fine, everyone's gonna understand my message. No. I'm going to go a little bit woo-woo a little bit. So anyone who's on board with that, great. But I definitely think be more guided. I feel like even in the last year I've become a lot more spiritual. I sit a lot more in meditations. I really do see what the collective as a whole need to hear. Now I've just had a really viral post, which I'm going to bring up because that was a moment where I wasn't having a great time. I went into a meditation. I went for a walk and this message came through. And then the Instagram post went like semi viral. I think I've nearly had a million views just on that one post. This is what I mean about Really starting to listen to your intuition of whatever's coming through is leading you in your right direction. This is what really started to change for me. I was like, I'm being guided. I'm not here alone and I can speak my truth. And don't be afraid of what other people might think. I was, I'm I'm going to be honest, sharing my story and being very personal about going through an early divorce. I was scared. I was scared to share it, you know, the previous people in my life, and you know what they're going to think, or my hometown, everyone's gonna see me. But also not really caring too much what other people think because it will hold you back. You'll be scared. You'll be you'll be fearful of like, well, look what Amy's doing. Why is she doing that? But knowing that you're doing it for the different reasons, you're doing it to share a mission, you're doing it to help other people, you're inspiring and creating something that you can't even see yet. You can't see the full picture. But you just know that you have this mission. So lean into that, lean into why you're here to do this. I know, like I said previously, I went through them hard times to be able to do what I've done today. That has been a longer road personally for me. And just being okay with whatever comes through, the success, don't be afraid of that. You know, you are worthy of it. You are allowed to have that. You're allowed to have everything you want. And that's why the dream big my mission just gets even more stronger every time I speak about it. Sarah Collins: I'm smiling here because how you've just described that, I'm thinking you this time last year just would not have been able to say any of that. And when we worked together, what I found really interesting actually about working with you was that you came across as really confident. Amy: Mm. Sarah Collins: And so we did delve into more of the messaging and the storytelling and the media training side of what I do. And then towards the end, there was something holding you back. And so we had to actually really work on what was that specific thing that was holding you back so that you could then move forward. And I Amy: Mm. Sarah Collins: think so many people don't get support to be able to do that. I'm so proud of you that you just explained Amy: Yeah. Sarah Collins: that because honestly, I know how hard you work. but also I can tell just how much work you've put into yourself, And it's really inspiring as well. Now Amy: Thank you. Sarah Collins: so let's talk about actually where you are now. How does it Amy: Mm-hmm. Sarah Collins: feel now in terms of getting up there in front of other people, sharing your story, having been through that journey of not wanting to and being afraid to share it? Amy: Yeah, it's it's pretty unbelievable sometimes. But at the same time, it's like, yeah, well, I manifested this is what I saw in the reality. but when it starts to come through, and this is where the magic really happens, you're like, wow, this really does work, and this is why I teach what I teach. I really do believe that, the work that you put in is what you get out, but I also believe in the rest and relaxation, which is something I never did. Like Sarah Collins: Yeah. Amy: really leaning more into the joy of like the joy of the business, the joy of life, the joy of why I created this. I didn't create this to create another. job for myself. I did it because I wanted the freedom, but I also wanted to give back. And you know, one of my mentors taught me, you need to have more joy. do more things that make you happy. I'm like, right. Okay. I need to do more of that. So the more joy I bring into l my life, the more things come through. So Sarah Collins: Yeah. Amy: that's something I've leaned into heavily and then like put myself in situations that make me very uncomfortable. I have to grow. Like for example, being in Miami and getting to speak on a Stage at like a huge university. That came from an opportunity of putting myself in a room that I felt uncomfortable in that was a lot more bigger people than me and asking for the opportunity. Things Sarah Collins: Yeah. Amy: will come to you. Don't get me wrong, you will have opportunities that will come out of nowhere, but there will be times you have to get yourself out there. I'm very good at finding ways that make me uncomfortable because then I know I'm growing. Just like Sarah Collins: Mm-hmm. Amy: hosting my own ever retreat, just like hosting my first ever podcast. Just like leading a group of women that I feel like, am I allowed to do this? Am I capable of it? You can do anything. And I think when you realize that you're capable of so much more than what you actually put in your own limits of your mind, you are able to do it. People want to listen. How did you create that for yourself? I don't really hold back anymore. I don't think, well, can I do it? I take the messy inspired and I go. Like my mentor, I wanted to create community. I've got this circle of like female. leaders and people who are growing and I I sold it my mentor a couple of weeks ago within a week I'd already set it up and got 25 women in the room. Amy, how did you do that? Why how did you do it so quickly? The thing is I move fast. I move with speed when I get the when I get the direction I go. I don't sit on it anymore for weeks, months, years, which I did. I wasted quite a lot of my life waiting for things to happen and just be like, well it will, it will. It doesn't. And I think when you take the action, things will follow. So believe in that part of that journey, take the messy inspired action. Continue leading yourself through the regulation and the joy part. You have to bring the joy into your life. That's how we raise the energy and that's how you need to be in the high vibrational energy to create that life for yourself. Sarah Collins: I'm a big believer in just creating your own opportunities. things aren't gonna come to you. You have to go out there and create them. And actually that kind of confidence and that feeling that you get when you have put yourself in a situation and you've successfully delivered a talk or delivered a workshop, isn't that just the best feeling? Amy: Yeah. it's an amazing thing to do. And now it's not for everybody. Standing on the stage and be like sharing your story is not for everyone. But when you do and you're able to give back in that way, it's a very empowering feeling. You're like, okay, well, maybe I have got more to give. And from there you just keep growing, you keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger, but also remaining in your power. I think one thing that really comes across, and this is why I've grown so quickly on on the socials, is I remain very authentic. I don't pretend to be anybody else. I am Amy from family and friends to the to who I mentor to, who I speak on stage with. I remain exactly the same. I don't have this persona where I'm like, look at me. This is this is Amy. This is who I am every single day. So it really helps. I think some people try to be someone they're not, especially on the socials. You are who you are. Don't be afraid of like showing that part of your mission and who you really are deep down. And Show the highs and the lows of what it really takes and building something. Like, you know, we've built these businesses. It wasn't easy. the first year of it, nobody's really listening. It takes time and and consistency. The boring habits over time are the ones that Sarah Collins: Yeah, and you have to have that confidence and belief in yourself to be able to keep going. I think that is such an important part, isn't it? Now, Amy: Mm. Sarah Collins: let's talk a little bit more about what you do then and how you work with your clients. So your signature program is called The Unshakeable Woman. What does Amy: Yes. Sarah Collins: unshakeable mean to you? Because I think that's such a great word. Amy: it's really close to my heart, to be honest. I mean, there's one thing like when I went through everything that I did and I really wanted to find my own power again, like believing in myself, but this version of me that no matter what relationship came again or a career that ever came, to never take my own power again, because I believe that sometimes it has been taken. And it's that unshakable piece of the work that I do. I work with women that no matter even if it's 12 weeks, six months working with me, this lasts a lifetime. I'm not here to just create something for a couple of weeks and off you go and carry on with your life. I want something that remains for the rest of your life. Stepping into your identity, that power, that success, being in your own divine feminine. That's what unshakable means to me. That nothing and no one will ever take away your power ever again. That's what you want to be when you become unshakable. we really look at things that have never been taught before, like mastering your emotions, stepping into self-leadership, who is your identity, really believing in yourself that everything is possible, but working with the unlimited beliefs, because you can manifest a dream life all you want. But if fundamentally you don't think you believe it or you that you don't think you can have it, you will never get there. Then subconscious is running the program of your mind. It's 95% of everything that you think of. So if you of all your life have been told you'll never have anything, and all of a sudden you're gonna wake up the next day and think you can't, it doesn't work like that. This work takes time. And oftentimes our mind and our bodies want to get back to safety, but get back to comfort. This is all I've ever known. That's why oftentimes in a relationship, you break up with somebody, you get back into a relationship with someone very similar to the previous partner because you like the same things. But sometimes what you don't know, you don't know. You don't really know what you're capable of. You didn't know that you could achieve them things. And like the final part of my journey is the manifestation. I wholeheartedly believe in it. I think it's, law of attraction is a real thing. And creating that identity piece for yourself, like stepping into that version. She's already within you. The multimillionaire CEO or whoever you want to be, she's there. you just have to really believe in that and step into her, act like her, already be her every single day. Sarah Collins: it is about building those habits, isn't it? It's about breaking the patterns that we're in now and building new habits that are going to serve us for wherever we want to be. if any of what we've spoken about today has resonated with anybody and when it comes to nervous system and identity, where would you say that they should start? Amy: Definitely from right from the beginning. Get super aware. Awareness is the number one step in all of changing your life. Aware that where you are right now is not your current reality or you don't want to stay here, great. you are aware of that. So where can we go from here? Where do we start? Regulation is a buzzword right now. nervous system, do this, do that. I don't believe in a 10-step routine. I don't believe in any of it. I think we're all, unique individuals, everyone likes different things. We all want to achieve different dream lives. Absolutely. But getting first honest about where you are, creating, you know, one of the things that changed my life was this morning routine. Creating the belief system straight away, as soon as you wake up, the guided meditations, the journaling. If you have one hour in the morning, great. But if you only have five minutes, you can do this in five minutes. It sets you up for success throughout the day. Then micro regulation in the day, you know, the breathing, the walking around, the movement. Then the evening too, creating that ritual at nighttime and really winding down. And be quiet enough to listen to your intuition. It's always guiding you. As women, we're probably more intuitive than men. especially at the cycle of the month. Sometimes when it's like time that you're going to have your cycle, you are probably the most connected you will ever be. You are not your thoughts, you're not your emotions. So if you're feeling sad, that is not you, it's just an emotion. Name it. And then we get out of that. So getting back to regulation every single day. This is not one thing you do once a while and then get back to who you were. You know, we create this, it's a habit and you do it every single day. And yeah, just fundamentally believe that you are worthy of so much more. Sarah Collins: think we feel guilty for Amy: Mm. Sarah Collins: stopping, like I think as women, we're so go, go, go, aren't we? And that taking time out for ourselves, stopping, pausing, reflecting, it feels like, something we shouldn't be making time for, but it's so important, isn't it, that we do. Amy: Yes, yeah, no, I see it. And I think having mentors and coaches who I've looked up to who have extraordinary lives, lives where they create your freedom making money and surfing and doing all of these things, you think, well, maybe I can do that. I've just been programmed to think I'm not allowed to have that. Sarah Collins: Yeah. Amy: that you're still tying your worth to money. Like I have to do so much before I can do that rest. That's not really how it works, and I can speak from experience here, the less I do. The more fun that I have, the more things come through into my life. This is just the fundamentals of what you want to create. You could create whatever life you want. If you want to work 18 hours a day, great, do that. If you want to work less and actually create that life you want to live, you can do that too. If other people can do it, so can you. There's nothing stopping you other than in your own mind and your own limited beliefs that are going to not allow you to get there. So that's why we have to work with the the subconscious and kind of knock out them beliefs that have been wired into us from from early age. Sarah Collins: Amy, where can anyone find you if they want to learn more? Amy: Yes, definitely. Head over to my Instagram is Amy Kelly Coach or LinkedIn and my two platforms that I mainly are on every single day and I'm always sharing stories, honest conversations and what it really takes to rebuild that life from scratch to actually create a life you really want to live, because I'm all about the big dream. Sarah Collins: Amazing. So to wrap up the episode, I like to ask my guests to complete the blank. If you could encourage listeners to speak with and then add your own word or phrase, what would that be and why? Amy: Speak with confidence because you are leading your life through confidence. You're building this reality for yourself. You are the one that has to believe in you. Nobody else is going to do this for you. Nobody's going to hand you a rule book and say, This is how you do it. You've got to lead your life with undeniable belief that you can do this. Confidence is built by doing messy-inspired action. Do things that scare you, step outside your comfort zone and create that reality. Sarah Collins: Well, I have been inspired by speaking to you and I hope everyone else has too. Honestly, I could speak to you all day and I am again, Amy: Mm. Sarah Collins: so proud of what you're doing. It is amazing. So go and follow Amy. Amy: Thank you. Sarah Collins: She's really inspiring and thank you so much for this conversation. Amy: You're so welcome. Thank you for having me. Sarah Collins: It was such a pleasure to speak to Amy. We work together on a one-to-one basis across a period of three months. If you'd like one-to-one support to become a recognized voice in your industry, learning to speak confidently on camera, podcasts, panels, and stages, then do reach out. I'd love to support you. Like Amy, who knows what platform you might be talking on next. Thank you for listening to this episode of She Speaks to Scale. Remember to speak with intention, not hesitation, and let your voice. Be heard.