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Brian Gerrish: My Story · UK Column Radio

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Well, hello, good afternoon. You've been left with me for the
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final slot, so I hope I'm going to be able to keep you awake.
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And the first thing I'll say is I don't have any slides or
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videos or any of this stuff. I'm going to talk.
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And the other thing is that. When we do events, it's quite
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interesting because quite often the speakers don't don't easily
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know what they're going to talk about and.
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Patrick Henderson will tell you this, that time goes on and you
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know you got to do something and you know you got to do
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something. And then and then all of a
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sudden maybe an idea comes into your head and it, it just sort
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of grows. And then speakers have their
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segments. And what we've often found is
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surprisingly, these sort of segments that come out of
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nowhere then fit together. And I, I felt a bit like this
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for the Hope event because Charles has been chasing us for
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ages. What are we going to talk about?
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And I couldn't really get a grip of it.
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And then I'm going to say to you, I woke up last night at
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3:00 for reasons we won't go into.
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And into my head came what I covered for the news, which was
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talking about what was happening with the churches in Cornwall.
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And that's a little story in some ways, but actually the
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implications, the implications are huge.
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So life can be very unexpected. And I'm going to say to you,
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well, ask a question. Am I amongst friends this
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afternoon? OK, I'm, I'm looking for those
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Incognito reporters that I'm sure there, but it's going to be
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recorded anyway. So I've made a decision.
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The time is right to do this with you guys.
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I have talked about some of this with an audience at Alternative
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View, which was Ian Crane's masterpiece of getting people
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together. So it's possible some of you
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might have heard some of what I'm going to talk about because
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I'm going to talk about my journey through into the UK
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column. But it it's it's pretty poignant
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and I'm very happy that when we get into to questions, you can
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really challenge me or get stuck into me.
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So if I go back, in case anybody doesn't know, I spent 21 years
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in the military in the Navy. Navy's always been very good
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friends with the Army. If there's any trouble, it's
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always the Army and the Navy that are there, usually with the
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Royal Marines. And then we wait to see whether
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the RAF is going to appear. Anybody from the RAF here?
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No, see, there we are. I, I, I, I could.
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I'm going to be hacked to pieces for that comment when it comes
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out on a video. We, we love you, really, but
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you're just not. Yeah, there was a Spitfire went
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over earlier in the afternoon. Did anybody see it?
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We saw it. Absolutely fantastic.
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OK, so I did my 21 years and I have to say I really enjoyed 98%
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of it. There is, in my opinion, nothing
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like being at sea. I really enjoyed that and
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something I always enjoyed was rough weather.
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Maybe I was a bit strange on that.
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I did get seasick in the beginning but that sort of wears
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off after a while. But if you are at sea in a big
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storm, it puts you in your place pretty quickly because you start
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to realise how minuscule the ship is and how minuscule you
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are. And, and I found that this is
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actually a really interesting thing to experience because when
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it's mega rough Force 10 was the most I got into up off the north
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of of Scotland. And I'm pleased to say we did
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survive. But you start to wonder.
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And so it's, it's an event which makes you think about the world
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and also your place in the world and really how significant you
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are. But anyway, the military time
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was really good. But in the late, sorry, in the,
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in the late 80s and into the 90s, I started to realise that
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things in the military were changing.
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I detected a sort of change in the, what's the word, the
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philosophy that I didn't particularly like.
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And I thought it was going to get worse.
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I felt that I'd had the best out of it.
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And so there's no doubt about this because there's still error
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and misinformation floating around the Internet.
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I was an anti submarine warfare officer.
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I was not a submariner. I did not drive.
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Or operate on board submarines, although I did a couple of trips
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on board nuclear submarines, so my job.
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Was to track and find those nasty Russian nuclear submarines
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that the BBC so terrified of. That's what I did.
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But I wasn't a submariner. And you have to stress that
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because anybody gets a hint who's a submariner, you're dead,
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man, because you got to be the real thing.
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You mustn't claim something you're not.
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So I just want to set that out. So the military, I did my bit.
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I thoroughly enjoyed it. But I'd lived through a system
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that I believed in. And if you're in the military,
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in the Navy, every morning at 8:00, if you're the duty person,
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you're up saluting the flag. And that represents the royal
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family and the country, and you are.
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In a system which is very much, very much controlled by the
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governing system and you believe in that system and you also
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believe that you are there to keep people safe and you can
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have a good time at the same same time.
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I didn't get near any of the trouble.
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I got down to the Falklands 2 days after the Armistice had
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been signed. So on the way down we were
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expecting to fight like the other units were.
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But in the event, by the time I got down there, the fighting was
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over and we had six months of patrolling the Falkland Islands,
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which is a unique experience with none of the excitement,
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having to listen to all the stories of the people who'd been
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through the exciting times. I lost four, I can't say
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friends, I'll say 3 close acquaintances and two others
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that that I joined up with. They died in the Falklands so
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that impacted on me. But I didn't go through the real
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thing. Charles has been through the
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real thing. But I didn't.
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So I got to consider myself very lucky when when I came out of
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the Navy, I initially tried to get into a normal job.
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Inverted comments. I didn't really have much luck
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finding a job. I did some psychometric tests
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with a couple of companies and invariably the person came back
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smiling because the psychometric test said that I was best suited
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to the military. So at least the tests were
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accurate. But you know, that was that was
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a bit of fun. And so eventually with another
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ex Navy guy we set up a little consultancy.
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Interesting. It was energy management.
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This is the start of all the stuff to do about energy coming
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through, which I wasn't aware of.
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And we were reasonably successful.
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We paid the bills, which is the main thing.
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And then later I joined a slightly bigger company and
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that's when I began to discover the trouble in Plymouth and
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large amounts of government money were coming through the
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city. They were not being used
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properly. They were being misappropriated.
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And I was looking at fraud and corruption.
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And then when I attempted to expose that, the backlash was
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phenomenal. So it was late night phone
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calls, knocks on the front door in the middle of the night, used
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hypodermic needles in the flower baskets outside my home.
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My family, some of them received, I'll say passive
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aggressive, threatening emails. My business partner was warned
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off that if I didn't shut my mouth he he would lose
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contracts. So I I went from living in this
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very organised world in the military to coming into civilian
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life and suddenly my world exploded.
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And in standing up and talking and publishing some things about
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what was happening. The beauty of the Internet was
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that other people came in contact with me and they started
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to say what you are seeing happening in Plymouth, the the
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corporate bullying, the fraud and the corruption that's
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happening in, it's happening in Sheffield, it's happening in
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Leeds, it's happening in in Glasgow.
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And so I was beginning to interact with other people and
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information was coming in to me about these amazing things
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happening in other cities. Very often where people were
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suffering because they they, they'd lost businesses or they'd
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been bullied or they'd been falsely accused.
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And it was, it was a real journey and an eye opener into
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the fact that my country was absolutely not as I thought it
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was. And I was particularly upset
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with the police because in my head, while I'd been doing my
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bit in the military, it was clear to me that the police had
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not been doing their bit cleaning up the criminality in
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this country in this period. And if, if I'll say we're very
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end of the 90s or just in to 2000s.
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I also started to experience some unusual things in that I'd
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be looking at one of the local newspapers and I'd see an
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article and it was like that article sort of jumped off the
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page and I'd read it and then I'd reread it and I'd think
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that's a bit weird. One of the key ones was I
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discovered that the Bishop of Exeter was sharing a meeting
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which was about elected regional assemblies and I was very
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surprised that a religious leader would be actually running
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a highly political meeting. And when I challenged his PA,
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she didn't like me at all and I didn't get much information
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about why he was doing it. So I started to get these little
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glimpses of strange things going on.
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Another little one was a very, very weird article where they've
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been looking at security in some of the more impoverished areas
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in Plymouth and they've been talking about putting gates in
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to stop people moving through alleyways at the back of areas
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of flats. And in the article it said that
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they they now got the ability aside from CCTV to also be
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listening, to have microphones so that they could also listen
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at the same time. And the, the there was a
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sentence in this article that said the things being narrated
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from the view of the Plymouth City Council.
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It said, we, we need to give people, we need to let people
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know that we're listening to them.
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And I just thought, what bizarre little comment because what did
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that mean? It was almost like we need to
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get people to understand that what they're doing is being
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listened to. So these things started to crop
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up. And, and then one morning I was
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at home in my kitchen and the, I think it was the mobile phone
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rang first. And it was a guy I hadn't spoken
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to for at least a couple of years.
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And he said, oh, hello, Brian, don't really know why I'm
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calling you, but I thought you needed to know this.
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And he gave me a little package of information about wrongdoing
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and, and I said, why did you call me?
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And he said, why? I don't really know, but you're
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the only person I could think of to give this information to.
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So I, I decided to call you. So I took the information we had
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a. A quick exchange, polite
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exchange and then I put the phone down, bit mystified, and
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the next thing it rang again and it was another person.
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Hello Brian, how are you this morning?
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I don't really know why I'm calling but I thought you needed
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to know X. Well, then the mobile phone rang
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and then the landline went and then the I took 11 calls back to
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back with 11 different people calling me one morning to tell
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me about weird things going on, criminality, people being
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bullied, stuff happening with people's children.
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And by the time the last one finished, I thought, that's
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pretty weird, what's what's going on?
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So my life then continued with learning about the fraud and
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corruption. I had a little website where we
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were starting to publish bits and pieces and, and I'd got some
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friends around me in Plymouth who were also starting to
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realise that there was something underwater in, in the country.
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And so at least I could chat to them.
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But Even so, these very weird little things, you could almost
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call them coincidences happened. And invariably when they did, I
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got information. Well, one morning, when was
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this? I'm going to guess and say
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probably about 2002, possibly 2003.
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So three years before the start of the UK column, I was at home
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in my little office space that I got at home and I was, I was
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working on a report and the phone rang and it was a friend
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of mine called Paul. And he's, he, he was an
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architect. He was working down in Plymouth
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in Cornwall. And he, he said to me straight
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away, hello Brian, what are you doing today?
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And I said, I got some reports to write Paul.
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And he said no, you're not, you're coming to see me.
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And I said, Paul, I got to do these reports.
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No, you're not. You're going to come and see me
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Paul. I got to do these reports.
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He said, alright, then when can you come and see me?
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And I said, well, I got a free day next week.
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I could come and see you next week.
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And he said, no, no, you come and see me tomorrow.
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So I said why? And he said, don't bother with
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that. You just come and see me.
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And I said, Paul, where and, and he, he's, he said basically
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Land's End, which was, you know, a good hour and 45 minutes for
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me, maybe 2 hours depending on the, the traffic.
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And I said, Paul, I, I possibly could come tomorrow, but I can't
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go all the way to Land's End. It's, it's too far.
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And he said, OK, you come to my place in Truro that's about an
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hour and 20 minutes away. So I said, OK, I asked him again
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why? And he just said, come.
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And I've known this guy for a very long time and I trusted
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him. So I thought, well, OK, I'll go.
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So the next day is a very sunny day.
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I leave home at about 9:00 in my car.
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I have a lovely drive down into Cornwall.
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The sun is shining. Cornwall's at his best.
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And I'm thinking to myself, what are you doing?
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I get to his house, park the car, knock on the door, and a
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lady that I'd never met before opened the door and I said, oh,
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I'm here to see Paul. And she said, yes, I know.
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And I said, is he here? And she said, oh, no, he's out
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with the dog. And I thought, I've just driven
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an hour and 20 minutes to come down and strange Lady Paul's out
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with the dog. And I said to her, to her, I
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don't really know what's going on because Paul was insistent.
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I came down and she looked at me.
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And then she said, well, you're here because of me.
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And I looked at her and I said, well, that's interesting.
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Why? Because of you?
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And she said, well, it's a bit of a story.
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Would you like a cup of tea? And I said, I think I deserve 1.
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So I went in and this particular lady was called Jackie, started
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to make a cup of tea. And I said, Jackie, I'm really
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confused because Paul was insistent I come down.
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He's not even here. You're telling me I'm here
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because of you? You know how does this work?
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And she looked at me and she said, well, you, you're going to
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find this very strange. But she said, I, I can
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experience things when it's like somebody's talking to me or I
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can have very vivid dreams and somebody is talking to me.
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And when it happens, she said, and she's looking at me very
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intently, she said it is God talking to me.
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And I looked at her and I said, OK, where you know, where do I
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fit into this? And she said, well, I had a she
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is saying this. I had a very vivid dream and you
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were in the dream Brian and Paul was in the dream and another
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friend who's also called Paul. So 2 Pauls.
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And I was in the dream and I waited and it stopped there and
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I said so how does this? You know, how does this affect
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me? You don't.
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You don't know me. And she said, well, I do know
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you because Paul's told me a lot about what you're doing, what
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you're seeing. Pause.
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And so I said, OK, So what does that mean?
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And she said, well, I had the very powerful dream and and
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that's usually God talking to me and I and and then she added,
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and that means I have a message. So I said to her.
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I said, OK, what's the message? And she said, oh, that's The
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funny thing, I don't know. At this point the cup of tea
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arrived and we sat at the kitchen table and I'm sort of
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stirring my tea thinking. I said to her, Jackie, tell me a
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bit about yourself. And so she started to tell me a
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little bit about her personal story.
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Some of it is very personal, which I'm not going to repeat to
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you. But in essence, she'd had a
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tough. Life as a single mum.
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Then she'd started a project in Cornwall called the Reminiscent
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Project Reminiscence. And the idea was that they got
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young sort of primary school children into the residential
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homes and the care homes to meet with elderly people.
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And the elderly people talked about their lives and their
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professions. And she said it just took off.
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Everybody loved it, the children loved it, the elderly people
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loved it. And this project went from
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nothing to the fact that several schools got interested.
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And she said I had a lovely job bringing the children together
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with the elderly people. And she said it, it had been
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going really well. For quite some time and then one
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day a lady turned up and she said Jackie, I can think I can
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help you get some funding to support your project and and
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make it grow. And Jackie said, so this lady
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got involved and she did get a little bit of money, but she
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said then things started to go wrong and it it was friction in
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her little project which she never had before.
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And then she said, the lady said I've got a friend, another lady
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and she can do XY and Z and she can help your project.
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And Jackie said when the second lady got involved, the first
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thing she discovered is the 2 ladies were having a special
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relationship together. But she said then things got
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even worse and my wonderful little project started to
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breakdown. And then they accused me of
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having an affair with a vicar. And then it turned into a
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nightmare. And then she started to tell me
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another part of the story and she got to a particular point
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and I said to her, I will tell you what happened next.
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She said well. How, how do you know?
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And I said, well, because I'm learning some some interesting
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things at the moment and I think I know what happened.
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And she said, alright, you tell me.
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So I told her what happened and she looked at me in amazement
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and said that's exactly what happened.
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That's incredible. How do you know that?
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And I said, Jackie, all over the country there are terrible
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things starting to happen amongst communities and amongst
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people especially that are trying to do good things.
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People come alongside them, they appear to be good and then in no
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time at all their projects are broken down.
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There's animosity, there's friction.
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And I've been talking to people all over the country.
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I've been talking to people in Scotland and the Midlands and
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Northern Ireland. And when you get talking
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criminality, corruption and something else that comes with
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it. And I said to Jackie, as this
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conversation is flowing, I, I think what we need to do is get
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out there and teach people because people are being
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attacked, but they can't see it and they don't understand what's
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attacking them. And as I said this to her, her
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whole demeanour changed. And in a still in a lady's
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voice, but in a very authoritarian voice, she said,
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you are to get out and you're to travel.
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Excuse me? You are to teach people.
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You are to explain what's happening and why it's
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happening. And then she said to me, oh, I'm
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really sorry. I get carried away.
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And I find myself saying to her, you've just given me the
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message. And this was utterly bizarre
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experience. Well, at that moment, in through
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the door comes my friend Paul with his dog.
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He's back from the walk. And we then have a a little
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conversation with our cups of tea over the breakdown of
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society in UK and the fact that when this breakdown is
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happening, something dark comes with it.
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And maybe Ben in his talk to you.
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And none of our talks were planned.
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Ben had no idea what I was going to talk about.
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But Ben started to talk about something essentially dark
23:49
coming into the music scene. So I sat and I had a chat for
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maybe a couple of hours with Jackie and my friend Paul.
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And then I had to go and I'm in the car on the way back in the
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sunshine, and my head was literally spinning.
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And I'm thinking, this is a bit of a joke on myself because I
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thought I'm not trained for this military man, so you've got to
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be trained. And as I was thinking that my
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very old mobile phone went beep beep which was a message.
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And when I got home and looked at it.
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It was a text from this lady Jackie with a little quote from
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the Bible. And I'm going to say that little
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quote absolutely answered the turmoil that was in my head.
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Over the next couple of months, sometimes two or three times a
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week, sometimes once a week, every other week, If ever I got
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down in what I was doing, that phone would go beep, beep, and
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then would come a little message from the Bible.
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And I'm, I'm not a person who was well read on the Bible and
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I'm not going to tell you I'm well read now.
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I'm telling you my story. So this interesting experience
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happened and these messages had come in.
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For a while and then one afternoon there was a it was
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about 2:45 in the afternoon. There was a knock on my front
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door and I opened it. And there was a really tall guy
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I, I knew through my days in UKIP, he was called Ted.
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And he was holding an overhead projector, if you remember those
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wonderful things, with a acetate sheet that you put on the top to
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project onto a screen. And I said, Ted, what are you
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doing? And he said, to be honest,
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Brian, I'm not too sure, but I thought you'd need this.
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And he gave me the overhead projector.
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And I said, Ted come in and have a chat and he said, I can't, the
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wife's off to me, I'll go and get the screen.
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And he disappeared over the road and next thing he came with one
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of the big pull up screens so that you could show the images.
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And then he was gone. And I, I was in my hall looking
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at the overhead projector in the screen.
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And I'm thinking somebody's trying to give me a message
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here. And about a week later, I
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decided to give a talk and I gave the talk in the the old,
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what do you call it, the Women's Institute.
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Hall. In my village, 17 people came, a
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mixture. There was, there were, there
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were several from local churches and some not.
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And at midnight, having talked to them about what was going on
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in the country, I was saying to them, go home.
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I had to kick them out because they wouldn't go home.
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And that was the first talk I ever did.
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And public talks following that is, is up into the hundreds.
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I, I don't know how many I've done in total, but from that
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point onwards, I'm going to say everything that I needed was
27:02
provided. Never too much, never, you know,
27:07
a glut of stuff. But I'd, I'd started to work
27:11
closely with some other people and we needed a little office
27:14
and a man said I'll pay for that.
27:16
For a few months. We needed a computer that was
27:20
given to us and slowly we started to set up this little
27:24
organisation which was to print the first copies of the UK
27:28
column and the first ever copy in January 2006 was one A4
27:35
sheet, 500 copies, which we as a little team distributed around
27:40
Plymouth. So that was the initial start of
27:46
the UK column and what were we doing?
27:49
What was I doing? Very quickly I was travelling
27:52
and I was giving public talks about breakdown in the country,
27:57
about the political charity Common Purpose.
27:59
That was up to no good part. Part of it was to do with the
28:04
European Union, but also constitutional stuff.
28:09
And at one point it was getting very tough.
28:13
I had two very good ladies working with me, two grand mums,
28:18
Carol and Kate, who did super work.
28:21
But eventually it was clear that I could not do it all on my own.
28:25
And I'm going to say I prayed for some assistance and I was, I
28:31
was, is he here because he'll get embarrassed.
28:33
I, I, I was provided with Michael Robinson, Mike Robinson.
28:38
And that came out of a strange connection where some people
28:42
invited me to do a private talk up in London.
28:45
I was a bit suspicious of it actually, because I had no idea
28:48
really where I was going. But at at the second talk with
28:53
these guys, Mike had come over from France and he said he
28:57
wanted a help. And that's how the relationship
29:01
built up with Mike. Now, the first part of my
29:06
journey, I look at that, I was shaken and somebody said, I want
29:12
you to do a job. And the job I was not asked to
29:16
do was to preach. I was asked to teach about what
29:21
was going on in the country. I was nothing about preaching.
29:24
And I'm not going to preach to you.
29:26
I'm just telling you how I got going.
29:29
So the column starts to to grow. And as it grows, the
29:36
information, the stories that come in are sort of more and
29:40
more harrowing because you start to learn about people in
29:44
poverty, people really sick, people who haven't have lost
29:49
their children or had businesses taken away from them.
29:52
So the message that we were always trying to get across was
29:56
pretty heavy, but it was like something was there keeping you
30:00
on rails. As we unravelled this, I started
30:05
research a bit because I, I just, I, you know, somebody says
30:11
you've got a message from God, maybe you go and have a look at
30:13
the manual on God to see whether you can learn anything.
30:17
And I started to ask a few people who I thought had got a
30:21
good knowledge as spiritual matters, what they thought.
30:24
And I did get some good advice. I also got rejected from a lot
30:28
of the churches that I went to. So the good old Baptists and the
30:32
Methodists and the Church of England, they all gave me the
30:35
brush off. I actually experienced something
30:40
which I still regard rather wonderful is that I went to
30:43
speak to some elders from the Plymouth Brethren.
30:46
Now, if you get research and you'll instantly find that they
30:49
got a chequered history and this and that.
30:52
But the people I met I regarded as very wonderful people.
30:58
And they said to me, we think you're on a journey.
31:02
And boy, they were right. And they said they'd like to say
31:06
some prayers, which they did. And I took comfort in those
31:09
prayers. But the initial part of learning
31:12
was all the good stuff. And then probably about six
31:18
months into this journey, I went to visit some people in a a flat
31:23
that I've been to before and I was with my wife, but she'd gone
31:30
into the flat to meet the the people.
31:33
I was getting the bags. I walked over the threshold and
31:37
it was like something jumped on me.
31:39
I have never experienced a feeling so disgusting in my
31:43
life. I fell I'll, I thought I was
31:46
going to be sick. And then in my head I've got
31:49
this is a spiritual attack. And I'm thinking, how do I know
31:54
this? And I'm thinking, I don't know
31:57
how I know it, but I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
32:01
And my wife looked at me and I think she thought I was having a
32:06
heart attack. She, she said, sit down.
32:09
And I, I sat down and she went to make a cup of tea.
32:14
And I'm not going to give you all of this, but you know what?
32:17
A dog came into the room and I thought, the dog's going to do
32:20
something. The dog came in through the room
32:22
and padded up in front of me. And then we'll say, had a big
32:26
accident on the carpet. So I'm in a room feeling
32:30
horrible. The house is now stinking, and
32:34
I'm thinking, whoa, there's something really bad going on.
32:38
Well, I recovered from the incident that night.
32:42
I had some really horrific nightmares.
32:45
And it ended up that I drove back to Plymouth on my own
32:49
through a dark and stormy night. And when I got home, when I went
32:55
in through my front door, there was a brown envelope on the
32:58
floor. And when I opened it, it was a
33:01
Bible. And I know the man who'd been
33:05
kind enough to give it to me. It was a Bible, and it was some
33:07
Bible magazines. And I decided I would read these
33:12
magazines. And I was fascinated because
33:14
they were almost like a military manual of warfare.
33:18
They were. They were actually written by
33:20
the Christadelphians. And if you check the history of
33:25
the Christadelphians, you'll discover that they've also got
33:29
some chequered history. But the ones I encountered were
33:32
lovely people. I read those two magazines and
33:36
they were describing breakdown. One of them had a picture of a
33:41
man's head in a sniper rifle sight and it said The battle for
33:45
our minds. And the other one said the
33:48
European Union, the 4th Reich. And by the time I read the, IT
33:54
was about half three in the morning and I decided to have a
33:58
walk around my house and I would come across objects that I got a
34:03
bad feeling about. And so I decided I would clear
34:07
my House of stuff that I felt wasn't right.
34:11
And I eventually ended up with a black sack full of junk.
34:14
What do you do with a black sack full of junk that you think's a
34:17
bit creepy? So I decided to put it outside.
34:20
I went to bed. When I woke up at about 8:30 in
34:24
the morning, the house had a beautiful piece to it.
34:28
And in my mind I felt that I'd been shown the light side.
34:35
And then it was like somebody said, I'll give you a taste of
34:37
the dark side. And that those experiences
34:43
started me on a journey of not only trying to work to warn
34:48
people about what was happening, how they were being attacked and
34:52
undermined, but it also took me on a journey where I started to
34:57
realise that this isn't simply on the men and political level,
35:02
this is a spiritual battle. And I always felt that this was
35:10
a subject that it was not for me to be too upfront about.
35:14
And so when I was doing public talks or when we, the UK column,
35:18
were doing public talks, if I was on the stage, people would
35:22
say at the end of a talk, do you think there's more to it than
35:27
men and politics? And I would say absolutely, it's
35:30
a spiritual battle. And then you could talk with a
35:34
small group of people. What you could not do at that
35:38
stage is talk like I'm talking to you now to a large group of
35:43
people because the war would just go up instantly.
35:46
So I stayed away from it, but I'm going to say to you that
35:50
that I have felt. More and more.
35:52
Over the last couple of years that the time is right for me to
35:57
talk about some of my experiences because of the
36:00
amazing stories that you guys have told me.
36:04
And it is incredible how many of you have told me.
36:07
I'm looking not not catching any eyes.
36:10
So we don't betray any confidences, but basically
36:13
people who've told me deeply personal stories which have got
36:16
a, a spiritual aspect to them. So I'm being very upfront here
36:22
and it's on camera and I think I've got to the stage of life
36:26
where the time is right for me to say it as it is.
36:31
But the important thing to understand in saying that it's a
36:35
spiritual battle is that don't go down the hole of Oh my
36:41
goodness, it's, it's, it's all satanic.
36:44
It's all this, it's all that, it's all dreadful.
36:47
And we can't do anything with it because the reality is that
36:51
there is a battle going on, but we are not the general in charge
36:56
of the fight. We are foot soldiers and we're
36:59
going to do the best we can. And the really dark stuff, you
37:04
have no, absolutely no reason to be frightened of it if you are
37:09
doing the right thing. And that is that you're being
37:12
true to yourself and you are actually behaving yourself in a
37:17
proper spiritual way. And I'm choosing my words very
37:21
carefully because I'd rather you went and did your research into
37:26
what I'm really talking about here.
37:27
There's some really good speakers on YouTube talking
37:31
about this. But if it's a spiritual battle,
37:35
we all need to be closer to God because God is where the power
37:40
is, and God can help all of us provided we open up to that
37:46
help. Now one of the talks that I did
37:50
in Alternative View where I had slides and a bit more of a
37:55
formal talk, I had a little video clip of a 19 eighty 1980s
38:01
BBC black and white documentary called The Witches.
38:06
And in that very good documentary, I'm sorry, I've had
38:10
to say, even though it was BBC, in that very good documentary,
38:14
they are talking about some really horrible things going on,
38:17
particularly with Colts and children.
38:20
And at one point they speak to a lady who has got herself out of
38:24
one of these very dark Colts. And they say to her, you've been
38:30
amongst these really nasty people.
38:32
Is is there anything they're frightened of?
38:36
And she looks at the camera and she says, oh, they are
38:39
frightened of prayer. Now, this morning in or
38:45
lunchtime in the news, I pointed out you've got a government that
38:50
wants to destroy prayer. This is not an accident.
38:56
I showed the little clip in front of an audience of 300
38:59
people. Later that evening there was an
39:01
open mic session. I'd been off to one side talking
39:06
to people. I came into the main bit.
39:08
There was a lady with a microphone and she said, and
39:11
that was just before Brian Garry started preaching.
39:15
And I thought, I don't remember preaching.
39:17
I think I mentioned God once in my talk.
39:21
Well, later I saw her in the bar and I said, you said that I was
39:25
preaching. Why did you say that?
39:28
And she said, well, you and she's rubbing her stomach.
39:31
You you mentioned God and and when you were talking, I didn't
39:37
feel well. It was it was utterly bizarre
39:41
watching her. And I said, I talk about God
39:44
once and you feel unwell. She said, I felt sick.
39:48
And I said, can I buy you a drink?
39:50
And she said, yeah, I have a glass of wine.
39:53
And we went over to a table and I said, tell me about yourself.
39:58
And what she started to tell me was she was a white witch.
40:02
And then she started to tell me that that was OK and what she
40:06
did and spells and potions and things.
40:09
And eventually she in her own story said, and we have to do
40:14
this to appease the elementals these, the earth, water, wind
40:19
and fire spirits, we have to do this.
40:23
Otherwise they can become aggressive.
40:25
So I said, so you're working with spiritual beings that can
40:28
become aggressive to you. And she looked at me a bit
40:32
strange. But then I began to realise that
40:35
because I had been talking about things in in a spiritual way,
40:41
this had impacted on her in a physical sense.
40:44
And I had ended up having a really good chat with her and
40:47
she turned out to be the essential oils lady.
40:50
And I ended up buying frankincense and myrrh from her.
40:57
And you're laughing. But I chose those because it was
41:00
a way of me. No, she wasn't selling gold,
41:04
unfortunately. But this was a way of me
41:06
building a little bit of a bond with her.
41:08
But I was also making a statement.
41:10
She knew what what I was doing. Now this is not my scene.
41:13
I was a Navy officer. I I've never been through a mega
41:18
devout family or anything like that.
41:21
So what I have told you about how the story of the UK column
41:25
opening up, this is me opening up to you and telling you what
41:30
happened. But what I'd like to leave on is
41:33
this important thing that we are in a huge battle, right?
41:39
And this is not a battle where it wants to just control you.
41:43
Ultimately it wants to destroy us.
41:48
I mean, completely. It's not in the gutter.
41:50
It's kicking you when you're in the gutter, right?
41:53
And to fight it, first of all, we have to realise that the
41:58
person in control of the battle is God.
42:00
So we don't have to worry about a lot of things.
42:03
But what we have to do is do our best and we have to treat people
42:07
properly. And there's some very key
42:10
advice. Love your God, love one another.
42:14
You can't be a member of the Tory or the Labor Party and
42:17
follow that because they're clearly not loving humanity, are
42:21
they? So I don't want to be perceived
42:25
as preaching, that's not my agenda.
42:28
But I am telling you my story and if you want my opinion, we
42:32
are in a mega spiritual battle and therefore the more you learn
42:38
about how to fight a spiritual battle and that includes praying
42:43
because when you pray, that's what connects you with God and
42:47
that's where you get the strength and the support and the
42:50
wisdom to make the right decisions into what you do on
42:53
the ground. I just pointed pick the finger
42:56
at Ben again because your picture of the satanic fingers
43:01
being raised and you know the picture of the beast of the
43:06
beasted, sorry, the horned beast which you saw.
43:10
This stuff is for real. The people bringing this
43:15
forward, this very dark agenda are the real deal.
43:21
That doesn't mean say that we're out to hate them.
43:23
What we have to do is recognise them for what they are and we
43:27
have to bring them down. And that is not with violence,
43:32
it's by exposure. And it's actually realising that
43:37
if that horrible dark side exists, the light side
43:41
absolutely exists and this world can and will go back to a
43:47
beautiful world. But for whatever reason, we are
43:51
collectively a generation which has been chosen to fight.
43:57
So you are all very special people.
43:59
The fact you're awake, is it a coincidence that you woke up?
44:04
Different things woke you up. This is all some amazing
44:07
coincidence. Or else there's a little
44:10
statement in the good book which says in the latter days I will
44:14
call my people. So I'm going to say to you, you
44:19
are a lot more special than you think.
44:23
And if you stay calm and measured and loving in choosing
44:28
how you're going to fight what's happening, we will really start
44:32
to be making progress. They are destroying the
44:35
Christian Church because it terrifies them.
44:39
They are destroying prayer. They're putting people in prison
44:42
for praying because that frightens the pants off them.
44:47
And just so that there's no misunderstanding about Angle, I
44:51
had the opportunity in my journey to give a talk in
44:54
Birmingham Central Mosque. It was a fantastic opportunity.
45:01
I gave a talk to the men because it was in the prayer hall
45:05
audience of about 150, I think, including the Special Branch
45:10
officer and also an MI Five guy, because at that stage every
45:15
mosque in the country had to have a security to security
45:18
representatives. They always wear the same shoes,
45:22
though, Charles, it's a bit of a giveaway, black Polish shoes.
45:27
I gave a talk about what was happening.
45:31
I told that assembled Asian but Muslim community that they were
45:37
to be the new Jews and they looked at me with just
45:42
amazement. Why did I say that to them?
45:45
Because I somehow knew that they were going to be slaughtered.
45:49
I didn't know it was Gaza or wherever, but I knew something
45:53
was coming. So I told that audience they
45:55
were to be the new Jews. When I finished talking to the
45:59
men, I came into the foyer area of the mosque, which was full of
46:02
women and children, really big area.
46:05
And then I realised that my talk had come over a public address
46:08
system, so all the women had heard what I had say.
46:12
I got surrounded by a lot of the ladies who asked me lots of
46:16
questions and I spent about South.
46:18
My talk was two hours. By the time I'd answered,
46:21
questions came in the foyer talk to the women.
46:24
That was about an hour and a half.
46:26
And then when I left the foyer to go to my car, I was followed
46:29
by about 30 young Asian guys. I'm not sure what was going to
46:34
happen. Initially I got pinned against
46:35
my car and then all the questions started again and I
46:39
spent about an hour talking to them.
46:41
And I, I'm going to just say to you that they are not our
46:46
enemies, right? There's another part of this
46:48
story I won't do because on the limits of time, they are not our
46:53
enemy. And one of the clues is that the
46:57
dedicated Muslims will tell you that the teachings in the
47:01
mosques has been changed. What's taught in the mosques now
47:07
is stuff that their parents and their fathers, grandfathers
47:11
never heard before. And this is a new, this is a new
47:16
Muslim text which is coming in with the money that builds the
47:20
mosques. And it's coming in from UA, UAE
47:23
and Qatar. So if they're having to attack
47:29
Islam and they're really having to attack Christianity, they're
47:33
frightened of both true faiths. And I have recently been with
47:39
some pretty devout Christian groups where I've had to go
47:43
through this business of explaining to them that the
47:46
moment they get on the hate side, they're on the wrong side
47:48
because you can't be for God and hating other people.
47:53
And I've made quite a lot of progress, certainly locally,
47:56
because I've now been invited to do some talks with some of them,
48:00
my local Christians, which I take as a great compliment
48:03
because I'm largely untaught. But they powers that be want
48:09
everybody at each other's throats, black, whites, Asian,
48:13
Christians, whatever it the division is.
48:17
And our job is to avoid that because then we can fight the
48:20
battle. So I've told you about me.
48:25
I've been really honest. I don't wake up scared.
48:29
I'm not thinking about somebody topping me because I think,
48:33
well, I'm going to go when God's ready for me to go.
48:37
And since I realised it was a spiritual battle and you can be
48:41
calm because the generals got it under control, life's better.
48:45
But do we need to fight? Yes, because you can't say it's
48:50
somebody else's problem, you know, you're an adult man or
48:54
woman. We got to fight and that's what
48:58
I've been doing. That's what the UK columns been
49:00
doing. I think that's why I don't know
49:02
where a man called Charles Mallett appeared and he was Army
49:06
and I regard that as very significant because if you've
49:09
been RAF, I'd have been worried, Charles.
49:14
So there you have it. If you think you're listening to
49:17
a different person, you're not. It's just I've been very
49:20
measured about how I talk about this today.
49:23
I decided to share it all with you and I'm very happy to answer
49:28
questions, so do your best. Thank you.
49:53
Can I ask you if you think this goes back the spiritual war to
50:00
ancient times? Well, of course, because it's
50:04
spiritual and inevitably that goes back.
50:06
But if if you wanted to put a marker down, an easy marker, and
50:11
I will use my good friend Alex Thompson, who is incredibly
50:15
knowledgeable on these matters because of because of his
50:18
intense knowledge of the Bible and the biblical languages,
50:22
we're talking Babylon. Yeah, that's what I was getting
50:26
getting at, really. So so practises, ceremonies,
50:32
signs, symptoms. When you actually start to look
50:36
at it, it may be couched in a new modern video, but what
50:40
you're actually looking is something around the Babylonian
50:44
era. To do with King David and King
50:46
Solomon practise the oh sorry, King David and King Solomon.
50:51
Well, this is this is where it goes back to and, and you know,
50:55
let's reach the topic. This is where it gets interested
50:58
if you go into the Masonic movement because this is where
51:01
it's that the Masonic movement is heavily focused.
51:05
The. Yeah.
51:12
Hi. Hi.
51:13
Sorry I didn't really. I just wanted to ask you again.
51:16
So you're saying you felt like you were having a spiritual
51:19
attack? Doesn't that isn't that kind of
51:21
like counter intuitive? You said about the other lady,
51:25
it didn't make any sense that her spirits would attack her.
51:28
But then you said you had a spiritual attack.
51:31
Are you saying you're, you know God?
51:33
What's the lady who said she was a white witch?
51:35
Yes, well, the lady who said she was a white witch was talking
51:39
about making spells. Which?
51:41
Didn't harm anybody. She said right, But she said
51:44
when we when we are using, when we are, well, spells, spells and
51:53
potions, She said when we're creating potions for this, we
51:57
have to say a little prayer for the elementals.
52:00
And when I asked why, she said because we do this because they
52:05
can be a bit fractious and we say the little prayer to keep
52:10
them calm. I said.
52:11
I said. To her, I said to her, so you
52:14
are, you're doing what you're doing, but you're dealing with,
52:18
we'll call them beings that can come back at you, right?
52:24
And you were questioning that. That was my point.
52:26
You were questioning that these beings would attack her.
52:29
But then you said you had a spiritual attack from God.
52:33
So it's the same thing. I didn't.
52:35
That's why I misunderstood. Right when when I said I was
52:38
under a spiritual attack and I felt disgustingly I'll that is
52:44
can't be an attack from God. That's why that's why I'm asking
52:47
you. That's why I was.
52:48
Confusing attack from the dark side.
52:50
Ohh right that's why I was confused.
52:52
I think you were saying that right?
52:54
You found God and then God attacked you to make you realise
52:56
what it would be like if you didn't that.
52:58
OK, thank you. In my mind that's it was so
53:00
clear. It was so horrible that you
53:04
know, I knew whatever it was was, you know, I I should have
53:08
qualified it and said a dark spiritual attack.
53:11
But if you if you feel unbelievably unwell and it was a
53:17
disgusting experience, some something nasty was attacking me
53:21
and I'm going to say it was the dark side.
53:25
And and in this, well, there's another lady there.
53:29
What? What was the?
53:32
I I wanted to just say on. What that she, I, I, to be
53:35
honest, I can't remember what originally came, came back and
53:39
some of it is blurry now as to you know, I, it wasn't as if I
53:44
logged it down each day. It was just that in, in my head,
53:47
it sort of answered where I was. And have I have I paid more
53:54
attention to the Bible? Yes.
53:55
And I think it's, it's a good thing to do.
53:57
But you got to watch the Bible because it can drag you into a
54:00
lot of stuff, which is to do with the world and people.
54:04
And but the, the, the basic message of the New Testament is
54:07
just so simple. How could anybody not understand
54:11
it? But you know, I'm looking at you
54:14
and trying to judge how you're taking this.
54:17
But for me, it's absolutely clear that you got this battle
54:21
going on between what is essentially good and love and
54:24
light and another force which is, which is cruel, deceptive,
54:30
callous. It's it's everything negative
54:33
lady. Yeah, on that note, was it?
54:36
Did it take? Oh, sorry it took that attack
54:40
for you to know that that was. That it was real, I I believe.
54:45
Yeah, I was suggesting. You have to hit rock bottom to
54:49
get back up again. It was almost like you had to
54:51
have that attack to know that you was being attacked by the
54:54
dark side in. The first instance what I was
54:57
shown was the light, and then it was like, now I've shown you the
55:00
light, I'll show you a bit of what the dark side can do.
55:04
Yeah, It was just to say that, yeah, it took that dark side to
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yeah. Like, I don't know, like
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epiphany kind of thing. Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah, Yeah, I. Just want to take the mic.
55:14
Take the mic. Take the mic.
55:19
Thanks for that. What what Brian's explaining to
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you there with the two extremes, to fully appreciate 1, you had
55:31
to fully appreciate 1, you have to have experience the other.
55:38
Yeah, that would make sense to me.
55:39
Yeah, Yeah. And something I better say,
55:44
because I think it's important to say that that I experienced
55:48
this and then on my journey through 20 years with the UK
55:52
column, I've met other people who who will talk about these
55:55
sorts of things happening to them.
55:57
So that's very reassuring because you have a conversation
56:00
with somebody else who absolutely knows what you're
56:02
talking. But in me telling you this, I
56:06
don't make the mistake of thinking that makes Brian Garish
56:09
some special person because I am not a St right.
56:14
And no, well, well, I I can I can only describe it as as best
56:28
I can, but take that. But just this business of, of
56:32
people who experience this sort of stuff and it really makes you
56:35
think because you're experiencing things, which is
56:38
out of an easy material world. It's difficult to describe some
56:43
of these things. I could talk to you probably for
56:46
another hour about other stuff. But the trap I don't think I've
56:50
ever fallen into is therefore thinking, because this happened
56:54
to me, that makes me mega special.
56:56
In fact, I can tell you on a couple of occasions I maybe did
57:00
something which was a bit foolish and, and I think I was
57:04
put in my place pretty quickly. Well, that's that's an
57:08
experience between me and God. But should you open your minds
57:14
up to the fact that what we're into is much bigger than just
57:18
bad corporations and people working together to control the
57:23
world? No, it's more than that.
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OK. OK.
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Yeah, OK. Thank you, Brian.
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Wonderful. I have so much empathy for
57:38
everything you've said what they're, I think we should never
57:45
be frightened of these terrible things.
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Never because it's us that they're frightened of, correct?
57:54
The divine within us. And we're not up there
58:00
somewhere, but in US and our connection with that, whatever,
58:07
whatever our belief system is, but that higher self, that
58:12
beautiful self. And that's what, you know, we
58:17
just need to speak from our heart and do from our heart
58:22
everything we do. And that is what they hate.
58:26
They hate us to be happy. They hate us to be joyous.
58:28
This this is this is very important what this lady is
58:31
saying and UK column. We are often saying it in extra
58:36
how important it is that you stay well, you take time out to
58:40
relax and clear your head and you stay happy.
58:43
The happier you are, and I'm going to add to that, the more
58:47
loving you are to other people, the.
58:49
More. The powers hate it so you get a
58:53
double win. The better you are in yourself,
58:56
the stronger you are, but the more the other side are
59:00
absolutely angry because everything they're doing is to
59:04
crush us. And so if you demonstrate, not
59:07
only are you not being crushed, but you're keeping a sense of
59:10
humour, you're still enjoying as much of life as you can and
59:14
you're battling you. You're doing a really good job.
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Is this a battle for our souls? And what is a soul to you?
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Do I think it's battle for our souls?
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Yes. Because you know, when you, when
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you start to think this through, you're into this key bit is, is
59:38
the flesh and blood all there is or is there something else?
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And for me, or just say for me and everything that I've read
59:46
and paid attention to, it makes sense that actually we're all
59:50
connected. I'm going to say God because I
59:53
find it easy to work that way. We are connected to God through
59:56
a a soul and that souls inside us.
59:59
And it's not. It's not actually part of the
1:00:01
body. But I can't prove that to you.
1:00:04
I can only say what my journeys LED led me to believe.
1:00:12
Never thought I'd be having a discussion like this with an
1:00:15
audience in 2025. Hello Ryan.
1:00:18
Have you ever been to Bali? I lived there personally for six
1:00:22
months and it's the most spiritual place I've ever been.
1:00:27
And I will say, before I went there, I was sort of all over
1:00:31
the place a bit and being there for six months, it gave me at
1:00:35
least 6-7 years of the after effects of it.
1:00:39
The most lovely people, predominantly Hindu, but even
1:00:43
the other faiths, all, it's just the most spiritual place to be.
1:00:49
And the people, the majority of people, the Balians don't have
1:00:54
anything. They're very basics, you know,
1:00:56
but they're so happy, smiley. And, you know, if that's heaven
1:01:02
on earth. And I would say to anybody, if
1:01:04
you get a chance, go to Bali. OK, thank.
1:01:07
Thank you for that. I I think this is a really
1:01:10
important point because we haven't got time to go into sort
1:01:13
of the debate on other religions that one of the books I read
1:01:16
very early on was called one the 11 World Religion by a man
1:01:21
called Lee Penn PE double N. And in that book, very thick
1:01:26
book with a lot of footnotes, he's warning that basically all
1:01:31
of the religions in the world are being attacked in order to
1:01:35
fuse them. And the fusing of them is the
1:01:40
corruption of all of them to create basically the the satanic
1:01:45
one world system. So I, I find it quite easy to
1:01:50
appreciate that actually any faith system that is essentially
1:01:56
based on loving people and certainly not harming anybody is
1:02:00
being now rounded up to be pushed into this very brutal one
1:02:05
world religion system. It is, it is a fat book.
1:02:09
It's quite expensive, but it's well worth reading because it's
1:02:12
research is is. I think it's phenomenal.
1:02:18
Hi, yes, you're talking about it's not corporations.
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Don't think about it's just corporations.
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It's, it's a spiritual war, a spiritual battle.
1:02:31
I mean, I've been listening to a few researchers that have been
1:02:34
like, well, podcasts like Wake the Dead and William Ramsay who
1:02:37
look into true crime and looking at the order of the 9 angles and
1:02:42
stuff. And these secret societies that
1:02:45
we might not be on Skull and Bones that we're not Privy to
1:02:49
because we're not elite. We're not part of the elite
1:02:50
system that are basically Satanists.
1:02:57
And, and what I'm saying is, you know, you can't have, if you're
1:03:00
not a believer in God as we've been told as children or
1:03:05
something in these sort of like organised religion, but
1:03:09
believing the creator. There's got to be light and
1:03:12
dark, you know, and there's definitely a lot of darkness
1:03:16
going on right now. So what I'm saying is, you know,
1:03:20
these, these organisations are satanic and it's coming through,
1:03:25
it's coming through them. And look at how psychopathic
1:03:28
they are. No empathy for no one.
1:03:30
This is true, but something I'd say to you straight off is that
1:03:33
if you've done enough research to be confident these nasty
1:03:36
organisations are there, stop doing research on them.
1:03:40
Because the more you research the dark side, the more it pulls
1:03:44
you into the abyss, right? So when, when you've done enough
1:03:49
to understand it's real, you don't need to do anymore.
1:03:52
You don't need to understand how it works because it's so
1:03:54
complex. The tentacles are so complex.
1:03:58
You, you will actually destroy yourself continuing to go into
1:04:02
that route. And there's a lot of people who
1:04:04
fall for this. And then they do this research
1:04:07
late at night and then they have problems.
1:04:10
So once once you are confident you can see what's there that's
1:04:15
dark. My advice is leave it alone
1:04:18
because you you don't need to research it to win.
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Yes, agree. Hello Brian and more.
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I'll come to you. I've forgotten you.
1:04:32
This will be the last. This lady will be the last one.
1:04:35
Pen Ultimate. Pen ultimate I wanted to ask you
1:04:37
about what you were saying before is if you think there
1:04:40
might be the soul not being actually part of our body, but
1:04:44
it exists somewhere else and we Tran and and it's like a
1:04:47
transmission and there's spiritually dark forces which
1:04:50
clearly, clearly, seemingly manifest and it's undeniable
1:04:54
because you feel feel them often times.
1:04:57
Is that like an attempt to an attempt to interfere with the
1:05:02
transmission or the link between the soul of us and and and the
1:05:06
God thing? In my opinion, yes.
1:05:08
And and This is why the praying is so clear.
1:05:11
You sit or you stand and you're praying.
1:05:15
Who? Who are you actually hurting?
1:05:17
And yet the government wants to put you in Britain.
1:05:19
It's because if you, if you adhere to the rules of the dark
1:05:23
side, the prayer has got a power because you are communicating
1:05:26
with God and they want to stop it.
1:05:30
I just wanted to say I, I liked, I, I really like what you said
1:05:34
and I think it's very important. I, I don't really need to
1:05:37
reiterate something you've already said, but I've
1:05:39
experienced myself the, the researching of really dark stuff
1:05:43
sometimes can actually defeat the absolutely.
1:05:48
It it can be, it can be unhealthy and and it can also
1:05:51
sometimes be disinformative as well.
1:05:55
Absolutely, because it will be everything negative and dark.
1:05:59
Last question. I'm wondering what you view
1:06:02
might be like in order to become more of a spiritual.
1:06:08
Beyond that, you don't need an organised religion because that
1:06:13
also tears and cause division as well.
1:06:16
So by learning to be inside of ourselves and to be ourselves
1:06:22
because we are all God, we're all God.
1:06:27
I agree. I agree with that largely, but
1:06:30
I'm going to say in my mind, there's still scriptural stuff
1:06:34
that you can learn from people over the, you know, centuries
1:06:41
can be very wise people and have written very wise things.
1:06:44
And I, I think that there is, there is good education in good
1:06:48
scripture, but I'm not going to, I don't want to get into that
1:06:51
here because it, it's just, it's just not right.
1:06:54
I, I have given you a really Frank recount of my story as to
1:07:04
how I got here and how I, how I think.
1:07:07
And so I, I'd like to just leave you guys with the fact that
1:07:10
we're in this immense battle, but the God's in control.
1:07:14
You haven't got to worry. If you do X&Y, the whole thing's
1:07:17
going to fall apart. You just do as much as you can,
1:07:21
but you've got to do the other things with it because if you're
1:07:24
not trying to do the right things on a spiritual level in
1:07:29
the right sense, you're, you're losing anyway.
1:07:31
You're helping the other side. But be happy.
1:07:34
That's a really good starting place.
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Be happy. Wasn't that a tune?
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OK. Thanks very much.