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- 0:09Speaker 1: Fly ball.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Sailing back to the monster. Second straight night with a
- 0:15Speaker 2: monster shot for Randy Rosarena. And the Mariners blow it
- 0:20Speaker 2: open in the second inning thanks to a three-run home run.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Hey, great Wednesday morning. Happy hump day to you all
- 0:37Speaker 1: as we roll into our number two here on this Wednesday.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan is here. My name is Chuck Powell. Great
- 0:43Speaker 1: to have you with us coming up here in a
- 0:44Speaker 1: matter of moments. Greg Bell for the latest on the Seahawks.
- 0:47Speaker 1: We'll see if he had the same response Ashley and
- 0:49Speaker 1: I did to the Hard Knocks finale last night. Also,
- 0:53Speaker 1: we'll get the latest gritty details of your Seahawks coming
- 0:57Speaker 1: up here at 7.05. Also, Cam Cleland will be joining
- 1:00Speaker 1: us for the first official time of this football season today.
- 1:03Speaker 1: to talk some Huskies football, to talk some Apple Cup.
- 1:06Speaker 1: That'll be at 9 o'clock today. But we begin our
- 1:09Speaker 1: hour with our headlines brought to you by Frostbrood Coors Light.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Choose chill. Mariners TV with the call. Randy Orozarena stays hot.
- 1:18Speaker 1: But the real story last night was the debut of
- 1:21Speaker 1: the very, very gregarious Laz Montez last night. The rookie
- 1:26Speaker 1: power hitter was called up. by the organization as part
- 1:30Speaker 1: of their two September call-ups. And let me tell you something.
- 1:35Speaker 1: Hobie Miller knocked it out of the park last night.
- 1:38Speaker 3: He was exactly what everyone hoped he would.
- 1:41Speaker 4: Right.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Hobied he would be.
- 1:42Speaker 4: Right.
- 1:43Speaker 1: And there must have been cold there in that shadow, Laz.
- 1:48Speaker 1: A flower emerged. Laz Montez had an RBI single last night.
- 1:53Speaker 1: He had a walk. He had a home run. And
- 1:55Speaker 1: the camera loved him.
- 1:57Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
- 1:57Speaker 1: They could not take their eyes off of Laz Montez.
- 2:01Speaker 1: His personality is infectious. Kind of knew that about him.
- 2:04Speaker 1: Got a 75 grade on his personality on his 40
- 2:08Speaker 1: to 80 scouting report. So Laz Montez certainly put on
- 2:13Speaker 1: a show in his debut tonight. single, RBI single, a walk,
- 2:16Speaker 1: and a home run, a long home run to dead
- 2:19Speaker 1: center field, which is not an easy place to reach
- 2:22Speaker 1: at Fenway Park. And so he was fantastic in a
- 2:25Speaker 1: 9-6 Mariners win last night. Yes, he was. It was fun.
- 2:29Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch it again. Let's do it. Yeah,
- 2:31Speaker 1: that's something. The Astros lost yesterday, so the Mariners do
- 2:35Speaker 1: gain a game. Five back at this point. The Texas
- 2:38Speaker 1: Rangers did win yesterday. Sorry, I said they lost at
- 2:42Speaker 1: 6 o'clock today. I've corrected it twice since. Get off
- 2:46Speaker 1: my back. Yeah, come on, people. Tonight, or today, I
- 2:49Speaker 1: should say, 110 first pitch. Bryce Miller will start for us.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Patrick Sandoval, left-hander, will start for the Red Sox. Both
- 2:56Speaker 1: struggling pitchers right now, so we might get a third
- 3:00Speaker 1: consecutive high-scoring game in Boston. Now, elsewhere in the sports world,
- 3:06Speaker 1: Stan Kroenke bought the Angels yesterday, something that we'll discuss
- 3:10Speaker 1: a little bit later on in the show. Artie Moreno
- 3:13Speaker 1: finally has given up the Angels after doing a horrible
- 3:18Speaker 1: job with them, frankly, for the last decade. College football,
- 3:23Speaker 1: Apple Cup is on Sunday. That's right. The Apple Cup
- 3:26Speaker 1: will start the season, and it will be on a
- 3:29Speaker 1: Sunday at 1 o'clock So we're just a few days
- 3:32Speaker 1: away from that, and we are one week exactly away
- 3:36Speaker 1: from the Seahawks opener, the defense of their Super Bowl championship.
- 3:41Speaker 1: and against the team that they beat for the championship,
- 3:44Speaker 1: the New England Patriots. Joining us now to discuss it,
- 3:47Speaker 1: our Seahawks insider, Greg Bell.
- 3:50Speaker 5: As part of our continuing NFL coverage for the 12th man,
- 3:53Speaker 5: this is 12th Man News, part of Chuck's daily visit
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- 4:15Speaker 4: Morning, Greg. Good morning.
- 4:18Speaker 1: All right. Well, hard knocks now in the books. An
- 4:21Speaker 1: actual game one week away from today. So, yes, let's
- 4:26Speaker 1: get ready for a football season. What was your big
- 4:30Speaker 1: takeaway from the hard knock season coming to a close
- 4:34Speaker 1: last night?
- 4:37Speaker 4: I thought it was interesting that Carl Scott, the defensive
- 4:41Speaker 4: backs coach, went back to the Alabama position drills practice
- 4:47Speaker 4: film for Trayvon Diggs to fire him up and get
- 4:50Speaker 4: him back into here's where you were in Alabama. That's
- 4:54Speaker 4: confidence building and that's putting a guy, making him comfortable
- 4:59Speaker 4: in something familiar back to where Diggs, where it all
- 5:02Speaker 4: started for him. And I thought it was interesting that
- 5:05Speaker 4: in the first week with the Seahawks that Scott did that.
- 5:09Speaker 4: And that's an interesting coaching and leadership move and, Part
- 5:13Speaker 4: of the reason that Trevon Diggs signed back with the
- 5:15Speaker 4: Seahawks instead of trying to go shop somewhere else to
- 5:17Speaker 4: find a job somewhere, signed back to the Seahawks as
- 5:20Speaker 4: a practice squad player, in fact. I thought that was
- 5:24Speaker 4: an interesting extent for them to go to. It's just
- 5:30Speaker 4: interesting to see an NFL coach, that's something a college
- 5:35Speaker 4: coach might do with a high school kid or get
- 5:37Speaker 4: his high school film, but It's interesting to see the
- 5:41Speaker 4: extent that Carl Scott was going to make Teron Diggs
- 5:44Speaker 4: feel at home, and it paid off so far anyway.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Very, very interesting thing to have pulled. Yeah, I did
- 5:50Speaker 1: like that exchange. I did find that interesting myself. Of course, HBO,
- 5:55Speaker 1: in something that we've talked about, really did wrap the
- 5:58Speaker 1: bow on this thing by pointing out what a gem
- 6:00Speaker 1: we have as a head coach. I mean, that was
- 6:02Speaker 1: pretty much the story of the hard-knock season was how
- 6:06Speaker 1: impressed Hard Knocks was with Mike McDonald. I mean, that's
- 6:10Speaker 1: my takeaway from the entire season. And I'm sitting here thinking,
- 6:14Speaker 1: I'm like, look, the word is out. I mean, everybody's
- 6:19Speaker 1: seen his defensive genius, and I'm sure the league was
- 6:23Speaker 1: already aware of the leadership skills. He's already won a
- 6:28Speaker 1: Super Bowl championship. Greg, right now, the highest paid NFL
- 6:32Speaker 1: head coach makes $ 20 million. I mean, we have brand
- 6:35Speaker 1: new ownership. I mean, is there any thought that Coastal
- 6:38Speaker 1: has come in here and say, $ 40 million a year,
- 6:42Speaker 1: but you've got to sign a lifetime contract to try
- 6:46Speaker 1: to keep Mike McDonald here in the fold because I
- 6:50Speaker 1: don't know if I ever want this organization to be
- 6:53Speaker 1: in a position where they get in a bidding war
- 6:55Speaker 1: with other NFL franchises. How high on the priority list,
- 6:59Speaker 1: when will it occur that Koslas and John Schneider will
- 7:03Speaker 1: make sure that Mike McDonald's happy and stays here long-term?
- 7:08Speaker 4: Well.
- 7:10Speaker 4: Two things. One, it's a little funny for me that
- 7:14Speaker 4: everyone say, wow, that's Mike McDonald and his leadership. This
- 7:18Speaker 4: has been going on for three years. I've seen it
- 7:20Speaker 4: every day. And we've been talking about his leadership as
- 7:23Speaker 4: being unique and his methods as being something I hadn't
- 7:27Speaker 4: seen in the NFL and how he's brought a West
- 7:30Speaker 4: Point Army officer ethos to some of the things he does.
- 7:33Speaker 4: And he's always his personal touch and the empathy and vulnerability.
- 7:37Speaker 4: And now the whole world, whole football-watching nation sees it,
- 7:43Speaker 4: and it's suddenly like, holy cow.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Well, there is a difference, Greg. I mean, yeah, you
- 7:47Speaker 1: have been talking about this, but until you actually see it,
- 7:50Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing to hear about it and
- 7:52Speaker 1: then to put your eyeballs on it.
- 7:53Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been seeing it, but not everyone gets to
- 7:56Speaker 4: be where I am every day, so they haven't seen it,
- 7:58Speaker 4: and now there's a revelation that, oh, the Seahawks know this,
- 8:01Speaker 4: John Schneider knows this, the new owners don't know this,
- 8:05Speaker 4: and they don't know him. And I don't think the
- 8:09Speaker 4: first priority for them is to come into the organization
- 8:12Speaker 4: and just re-up the coach for a lifetime contract because
- 8:16Speaker 4: they have to establish a relationship and know how he operates.
- 8:19Speaker 4: They'll find out quickly, but they aren't even there. They're
- 8:21Speaker 4: not even in the building yet because the transaction hasn't cleared.
- 8:25Speaker 4: I have brought this up and talked to people about
- 8:29Speaker 4: the McDonald contract and whether they would redo it, just
- 8:32Speaker 4: extend them. I don't think it's out of the question.
- 8:36Speaker 4: In the NFL, nothing lasts forever, and even when Pete
- 8:40Speaker 4: Carroll looked like he'd be here forever, he wasn't here forever.
- 8:43Speaker 4: So I don't know how large or deep an extent
- 8:46Speaker 4: they would go for this, but suffice to say, he's
- 8:49Speaker 4: so far outperformed his contract, and it's a five-year deal.
- 8:53Speaker 4: They like to, though I won't say they, because they
- 8:56Speaker 4: has just changed. Under the Allen stewardship, they like to
- 9:01Speaker 4: have Snyder and the coach on concurrent contracts. That would
- 9:06Speaker 4: end around the same time and then re-up them for
- 9:08Speaker 4: about the same time. That's why McDonald got a five-year
- 9:11Speaker 4: deal in line with the GM. Would the Kozlows like
- 9:15Speaker 4: to do the same thing? Would they change it? It
- 9:18Speaker 4: has created a lockstep relationship between the coach and GM
- 9:21Speaker 4: to do it the way the Seahawks under the Islands
- 9:23Speaker 4: did it. I don't know why they would change that
- 9:27Speaker 4: either because that isn't broken in that relationship either. So
- 9:32Speaker 4: if you're talking about extending, it's a long way of saying,
- 9:34Speaker 4: if you're talking about extending Mike McDonald, you're probably talking
- 9:37Speaker 4: about extending John Schneider at the same time. Don't know
- 9:41Speaker 4: that that's the first priority, but that's something down the
- 9:43Speaker 4: road I think they would look at doing and how
- 9:45Speaker 4: far they do it. You're right, there's no salary cap
- 9:48Speaker 4: for coaching GM salaries. The new owners can pay them
- 9:51Speaker 4: anything they want to.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Right, exactly. I'm a little surprised that, I mean, whenever
- 9:56Speaker 1: you talk about an NFL team, everybody says get your...
- 10:00Speaker 1: you have to have a good owner, get your coach,
- 10:03Speaker 1: and get your quarterback. Those are the three things that
- 10:06Speaker 1: they tend to bring up. And yet a good head coach,
- 10:10Speaker 1: the best head coach, makes $ 20 million. I have a
- 10:13Speaker 1: feeling that number, and I know that we're just, you know,
- 10:17Speaker 1: I'm just sharing an opinion here, but I'd like to
- 10:19Speaker 1: get your reaction to it. I have a feeling that
- 10:21Speaker 1: number is going to skyrocket going forward because to get
- 10:25Speaker 1: one of the elite head coaches, to get a McVeigh,
- 10:28Speaker 1: to get a McDonald, not just one of the elite ones,
- 10:30Speaker 1: but a young one as well. I have a feeling
- 10:33Speaker 1: that that salary might double, uh, in the next five,
- 10:37Speaker 1: 10 years.
- 10:40Speaker 4: Maybe it could, because there is no cap and there's
- 10:43Speaker 4: no ceiling. Uh, So far, no one has done that,
- 10:47Speaker 4: and there are reasons for that. In McVeigh's case, McVeigh
- 10:51Speaker 4: is somewhat in lockstep with Les Snead in Los Angeles,
- 10:54Speaker 4: and they have a partnership there as well. My sense
- 10:58Speaker 4: is that the Kozels are going to see how the
- 11:00Speaker 4: football operation works, and they're going to try to do
- 11:03Speaker 4: both at the same time, Schneider and McDonald, and therefore
- 11:07Speaker 4: it won't be a $ 40 million a year contract. Because McDonald,
- 11:11Speaker 4: face it, McDonald is not like a Bill Belichick or
- 11:13Speaker 4: even a Pete Carroll personality inside his own building. He's
- 11:17Speaker 4: in a partnership as a first-time head coach that's still
- 11:20Speaker 4: in his 30s. So while it's been wildly successful so far,
- 11:25Speaker 4: it is still, at least appears to be, dependent on
- 11:29Speaker 4: the relationship he has with John Schneider. So I would
- 11:32Speaker 4: think it's a two-for-deal, and maybe the two of them
- 11:35Speaker 4: would make $ 40 million together. I don't see Mike McDonald
- 11:39Speaker 4: lapping the field and lapping his own GM at the
- 11:43Speaker 4: risk of changing that dynamic. You don't want a coach
- 11:47Speaker 4: that makes $ 40 million a year while a GM makes
- 11:49Speaker 4: $ 5 or $ 6. And then I think you have the
- 11:52Speaker 4: accent on the wrong syllable there. So I think I'm
- 11:57Speaker 4: speaking out of turn because I don't know how the
- 11:59Speaker 4: Coles operate. In fact, they aren't even in the building yet.
- 12:01Speaker 4: But if they truly aren't going to change the football operation,
- 12:04Speaker 4: I think they're going to. extend both, keep both in
- 12:07Speaker 4: the same realm, both in time frame and money. But
- 12:12Speaker 4: it has worked out swimmingly so far. And I think
- 12:15Speaker 4: a large part of that is the relationship he has
- 12:17Speaker 4: with John Schneider.
- 12:18Speaker 1: Greg Bell is with us, our Seahawks insider, his segment
- 12:21Speaker 1: every day brought to you by the Emerald Queen Casino.
- 12:24Speaker 1: All right, I'll just start asking about a few more
- 12:27Speaker 1: tangible things. For example, I'll throw this out as well.
- 12:31Speaker 1: It just Seems like the offensive line has just kind
- 12:34Speaker 1: of flew completely under the radar this entire preseason. There
- 12:37Speaker 1: have been no mysteries. I mean, the same starting five
- 12:41Speaker 1: has been there. They haven't played in the preseason, so
- 12:43Speaker 1: we haven't exposed them to any low moments. at this stage.
- 12:49Speaker 1: So does that tend to suggest that, man, they feel
- 12:52Speaker 1: really good about this group right now? Or is this
- 12:58Speaker 1: just a suggestion that offensive lines that are solid are boring?
- 13:03Speaker 1: And that's why we haven't talked much about them this year.
- 13:08Speaker 4: Boring is a good thing in Seattle because for 10
- 13:10Speaker 4: years they were the opposite of boring. So compare this
- 13:14Speaker 4: to this time last year. Remember, they had to play
- 13:17Speaker 4: the starting offensive line last year because Kubiak was installing
- 13:20Speaker 4: a system and John Bent was installing the outside zone. Remember,
- 13:23Speaker 4: they ran for like 150 yards in the first half
- 13:25Speaker 4: of that second preseason game against the Chiefs here in
- 13:28Speaker 4: Seattle last year. And they had to do all that
- 13:31Speaker 4: in the preseason to get ready for this. They didn't
- 13:34Speaker 4: have to do that this year. It's really rare. And
- 13:37Speaker 4: Brian Fleury talked about this when he took the job.
- 13:40Speaker 4: He understands how rare it is to walk into a
- 13:42Speaker 4: situation of taking over a Super Bowl champion offense when
- 13:45Speaker 4: the entire offensive line comes back. Usually Super Bowl champions,
- 13:49Speaker 4: guys are getting paid and they go seek their money elsewhere.
- 13:52Speaker 4: They're still young enough to the offensive line at their core,
- 13:56Speaker 4: and they've re-upped their book and tackles that everyone came back.
- 14:01Speaker 4: And they are very happy with their offensive line. Having
- 14:05Speaker 4: said that, they aren't happy with the depth on the
- 14:07Speaker 4: offensive line, and they got manhandled by reserves on the
- 14:11Speaker 4: line of scrimmage pretty much in all three preseason games.
- 14:15Speaker 4: McDonnell wanted them to run the ball, and they didn't
- 14:18Speaker 4: effectively run the ball hardly at all. You take out
- 14:21Speaker 4: the 69-yard touchdown that Jakartier Wright had in the second
- 14:24Speaker 4: preseason game at Tennessee. I had the number in my
- 14:27Speaker 4: story at the Kansas City game after postgame. It was
- 14:32Speaker 4: something like 2.7, 2.8 yards per carry for the preseason.
- 14:36Speaker 4: That's terrible. That's back to where they were two years
- 14:40Speaker 4: ago in offense and running the ball. So the depth
- 14:44Speaker 4: is a concern, and they don't go through all just
- 14:47Speaker 4: five guys in the season. They don't. No NFL team does.
- 14:50Speaker 4: So that's a concern. They think they have a swing
- 14:52Speaker 4: tackle in Josh Jones, a proven veteran who did well
- 14:55Speaker 4: for them when he had to start at the end
- 14:57Speaker 4: of last season because of a couple injuries. But after that, eh.
- 15:01Speaker 4: They don't have a swing guard they can trust. They've
- 15:03Speaker 4: tried Christian Haynes. I thought they were trying to trade
- 15:06Speaker 4: Christian Haynes, but I don't know he had any trade value.
- 15:09Speaker 4: They like Sundell, although he's not quite as strong as
- 15:13Speaker 4: some centers and as big as some centers. He's cerebral
- 15:16Speaker 4: and traffic cop and makes all the right calls. They
- 15:19Speaker 4: love their bookend tackles. Anthony Bradford's in the last year
- 15:22Speaker 4: of his contract, and no matter what the public thinks
- 15:24Speaker 4: of Anthony Bradford, the coaches and the people in the
- 15:27Speaker 4: building really love his improvement the last couple of years.
- 15:30Speaker 4: especially in pass protection. The fact no one's talking about
- 15:34Speaker 4: him is a plus for Seattle compared to what it's
- 15:36Speaker 4: been for 10 years.
- 15:37Speaker 1: For sure, for sure. Greg Bell is with us. You
- 15:39Speaker 1: want to follow him at gbellseattle on X and, of course, thenewstribune.com.
- 15:44Speaker 1: You know, I've covered football for a long time. There's
- 15:50Speaker 1: about 10 years I took off from doing sports talk radio,
- 15:52Speaker 1: but It's always been about the 53, the 53. I mean,
- 15:56Speaker 1: how many conversations I've had with Ian Furness and Curtis
- 15:59Speaker 1: Crabtree about the 53 in the last couple of spots.
- 16:02Speaker 1: And then last night on Hard Knocks, such an emphasis
- 16:05Speaker 1: about the 70, all 70. Like it's not the 53,
- 16:09Speaker 1: it's the 70. Is that something new or does that
- 16:17Speaker 1: sort of emphasis happen league-wide? Because I remember stories about
- 16:20Speaker 1: the Turk and seeing the Turk and you didn't make
- 16:23Speaker 1: the 53 and that was a crushing blow. Is this
- 16:26Speaker 1: something new that John and Mike do differently than everyone
- 16:30Speaker 1: else or is this something league-wide that has changed over
- 16:34Speaker 1: the years and just flown under the radar?
- 16:37Speaker 4: It is an emphasis that the Seahawks do more than
- 16:40Speaker 4: most teams I've been around. Also, the practice squad rules
- 16:43Speaker 4: have changed in the last few years to make the
- 16:45Speaker 4: practice squad more relevant. It used to be when you
- 16:48Speaker 4: could barely call up dudes from the practice squad or
- 16:50Speaker 4: you had to cut somebody from your roster to get
- 16:52Speaker 4: up somebody from the practice squad. They truly were a
- 16:55Speaker 4: taxi squad that were just there in reserve. Because the
- 16:59Speaker 4: rules have changed and now you can bring practice squad
- 17:01Speaker 4: players up up to three different times, three different games,
- 17:05Speaker 4: to activate them and then send them back down without
- 17:07Speaker 4: having to do any roster mechanisms. Because you can do that,
- 17:11Speaker 4: and because they've expanded the practice squad from about 10
- 17:14Speaker 4: or a dozen players to 16, or in the CR's case,
- 17:17Speaker 4: because of the international exemption, 17, it has changed everything.
- 17:21Speaker 4: Because you can now put six, used to be it
- 17:23Speaker 4: was only first or second year guys on the practice squad.
- 17:26Speaker 4: Now you can have vested veterans of unlimited service time,
- 17:30Speaker 4: like a Trevon Diggs. So in the last four or
- 17:33Speaker 4: five years, the rules have completely changed. So the practice
- 17:36Speaker 4: squad has become an extension of the team, and the
- 17:38Speaker 4: Seahawks have really gotten behind that. I think the one
- 17:42Speaker 4: takeaway for the league, and everybody in the league watches it,
- 17:45Speaker 4: and personnel people watch it, and the players watch it,
- 17:48Speaker 4: but the one big takeaway from the Seahawks' hard knocks,
- 17:50Speaker 4: especially last night's episode, is maybe we should rethink how
- 17:53Speaker 4: we do the cuts because the Seahawks do do it differently. Now,
- 17:58Speaker 4: what they didn't show last night, my son and I
- 18:01Speaker 4: were talking about this, There were 91 players on the
- 18:04Speaker 4: preseason roster, right? Only 70, if you count the practice squad,
- 18:09Speaker 4: made it. They didn't show the 21 other dudes who
- 18:11Speaker 4: are cut and gone and weren't getting the, hey, you're
- 18:14Speaker 4: coming right back, you know what we're doing here, just
- 18:16Speaker 4: hang out for a day and we'll come bring you back.
- 18:18Speaker 4: 21 dudes didn't get that call. 21 dudes are watching
- 18:21Speaker 4: Hard Knocks going, that wasn't my experience. They threw my
- 18:24Speaker 4: ass out on the street. They don't think quite as
- 18:27Speaker 4: warmly about the Seahawks 70 as the 70 do. So.
- 18:31Speaker 4: It cuts both ways, and Hard Knocks didn't choose to
- 18:34Speaker 4: show that. But it's true that in previous seasons and episodes,
- 18:38Speaker 4: they would show the pink slips and a guy having
- 18:41Speaker 4: to turn his playbook in. And even last night, John
- 18:43Speaker 4: Schneider said, it's not like we're telling you to go
- 18:45Speaker 4: turn your playbook into AD to one of the players
- 18:48Speaker 4: on defense, Adam Dirty, the defensive coordinator. That has been
- 18:52Speaker 4: in previous seasons the big drama of the final episode
- 18:55Speaker 4: of turning your playbook in, and famously of the Jets,
- 18:58Speaker 4: the guy locked out of the front door to the facility.
- 19:02Speaker 4: There wasn't any of that, and I think there might
- 19:04Speaker 4: be some nuance to how teams view their cuts when
- 19:08Speaker 4: they watch how the Seahawks do it, because the 70
- 19:11Speaker 4: is real to them, and because last year I think
- 19:13Speaker 4: they led or were in the top three in the
- 19:15Speaker 4: league in practice squad transactions and elevations and re-signings. When
- 19:21Speaker 4: you do that, then 70 becomes, if you just say
- 19:23Speaker 4: it and then those guys never play, then it doesn't matter.
- 19:26Speaker 4: But Vellis Jones Jr., for instance, who's back on the
- 19:29Speaker 4: practice squad to start this season, was elevated from the
- 19:32Speaker 4: practice squad for the Super Bowl. So, yeah, they actually
- 19:36Speaker 4: back it up, and they do use 70 players throughout
- 19:39Speaker 4: a season, and we all know because of injuries that's
- 19:42Speaker 4: going to happen.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Again this year. I hope John understands that his days
- 19:46Speaker 1: at Dino's Pub are probably ruined. His meetings uh at dino's.
- 19:51Speaker 4: Those local people know it already though i mean now
- 19:53Speaker 4: the nation knows but yeah he's been a fixture there
- 19:56Speaker 4: since his gm tenure started he's got his own bench
- 19:59Speaker 4: he's got his own stool they eagerly await him coming
- 20:02Speaker 4: over yeah the the staff and the people there there
- 20:06Speaker 4: are a lot of people i know and even some
- 20:08Speaker 4: writers who hang out at Dino's for knowing he's going
- 20:11Speaker 4: to always be there. Now the whole nation, it'll probably
- 20:13Speaker 4: come like one of those dives and diners or whatever
- 20:16Speaker 4: those food shows are. That's going to be a destination
- 20:19Speaker 4: place now for people. All right.
- 20:22Speaker 1: What do you got on the show today?
- 20:25Speaker 4: We're going to talk Apple Cup a little bit more.
- 20:27Speaker 4: Apple Cup. Seahawks are off again today, and they don't
- 20:30Speaker 4: return to practice from their three-day hiatus until tomorrow. So
- 20:32Speaker 4: not a lot of news there. The Apple Cup. We're
- 20:36Speaker 4: going to talk to Greg Woods of the Spokesman Review,
- 20:37Speaker 4: get to Washington State's side. We got Softie Mahler's side,
- 20:41Speaker 4: which wasn't exactly Cougar's side yesterday. He and Jesslyn got
- 20:45Speaker 4: in a sparring match about the coverage of sideline reporting.
- 20:49Speaker 4: If you listeners don't know, Softie's going to be the
- 20:52Speaker 4: new sideline reporter for Husky Broadcast on our station.
- 20:55Speaker 1: And Jesslyn.
- 20:59Speaker 4: I'm sure that won't be. That's going to be partisan,
- 21:02Speaker 4: to say the least. But yeah greg woods and spokesman
- 21:05Speaker 4: are you gonna talk to washington stateside as well and
- 21:07Speaker 4: of course we'll give laz montes's flowers they should have
- 21:10Speaker 4: called him up in like may at this rate.
- 21:12Speaker 1: Huh uh yeah they were very hesitant but man he's
- 21:16Speaker 1: got some thunder in that bat.
- 21:18Speaker 4: There's why were they hesitant was it like a service
- 21:21Speaker 4: time thing.
- 21:22Speaker 1: Or was it 35 strikeout rate 30 strikeout rate if
- 21:26Speaker 1: you're doing that at the minors what's that look like
- 21:28Speaker 1: at the majors you don't want them to come up
- 21:29Speaker 1: and fail but uh yeah they could have called him
- 21:32Speaker 1: up earlier for sure i mean 38 homers is 38 homers.
- 21:36Speaker 4: Yeah. You've been talking about it when you've been going
- 21:38Speaker 4: to Tacoma. So, yeah. All right.
- 21:41Speaker 1: Well, we'll listen at 10. Thank you, sir.
- 21:44Speaker 4: Thanks. Happy Wednesday.
- 21:45Speaker 5: Thanks.
- 21:45Speaker 1: Greg Bell, our Seahawks insider, joining us right here on
- 21:49Speaker 1: the radio program. This segment brought to you by the
- 21:51Speaker 1: Emerald Queen Casino. And he'll be on the air today
- 21:53Speaker 1: at 10 o'clock. Does his own show, you know. Coming
- 21:56Speaker 1: up next on the program, we will talk more about
- 21:58Speaker 1: Laz Montez and his debut. last night at Fenway Sports
- 22:02Speaker 1: Radio 93.3 KJR-FM. Ground ball, base hit, right field.
- 22:14Speaker 2: And a run batted in. Lázaro Montes claps his hands.
- 22:19Speaker 2: And in his Major League debut, his first at-bat picks
- 22:24Speaker 2: up his first Major League hit.
- 22:27Speaker 1: And drives in a run of the process. Oh, Aaron's
- 22:34Speaker 1: getting a little fancy with the name last night. You know,
- 22:38Speaker 1: he's the guy that goes to the, you know, the
- 22:40Speaker 1: French cafe and orders a croissant. Cafe au lait. Yes,
- 22:49Speaker 1: welcome to Chipotle. Yes, I'm Aaron Goldsmith and I have
- 22:54Speaker 1: a barrito. Could I please have some pollo asada? I
- 23:00Speaker 1: really don't know how to pronounce it.
- 23:02Speaker 3: Laz's name i just say laz montez but it got
- 23:05Speaker 3: fancy last night on tv and.
- 23:06Speaker 1: Radio i do believe that it is lazaro and i
- 23:11Speaker 1: you know and then of course we do americanize it
- 23:14Speaker 1: it probably is montez but we go montez Yeah. And
- 23:19Speaker 1: that's fine. If Aaron wants to do Montez, we can
- 23:22Speaker 1: live with.
- 23:22Speaker 4: That, right?
- 23:22Speaker 1: Because that's speaking to the culture. It's how he pronounces
- 23:26Speaker 1: his name. That's how we should probably pronounce his name.
- 23:28Speaker 3: It's like Rick Riz always with Franklin. No, Dave Sims
- 23:31Speaker 3: was it? With Franklin Gutierrez.
- 23:35Speaker 1: So, yeah, I kind of like to pronounce the player's
- 23:39Speaker 1: name the way he wants it pronounced.
- 23:41Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
- 23:42Speaker 1: Like if you go to Louisville. It's Louisville. Right. I mean,
- 23:48Speaker 1: we grew up thinking it should be Louisville. And therefore,
- 23:53Speaker 1: a lot of people call it Louisville.
- 23:55Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 23:56Speaker 1: But when you go there and they say, no, it's Louisville.
- 24:00Speaker 1: then I think we owe it to them to pronounce
- 24:02Speaker 1: it Louisville. Problem is, for whatever reason, Latino players don't
- 24:07Speaker 1: ever correct us. And I don't know why. Because I'd
- 24:10Speaker 1: really like to just know how you want it pronounced,
- 24:12Speaker 1: and then I will effort to do it that way.
- 24:15Speaker 3: Well, and the Mariners or any organization, I mean, they're
- 24:17Speaker 3: usually pretty good at that, at saying, okay... Here's the
- 24:20Speaker 3: pronunciation according to how this person says their name. But
- 24:25Speaker 3: I don't know that that happened before his call up
- 24:27Speaker 3: yesterday because, yeah, Aaron was Lazaro Montes. And on the radio,
- 24:32Speaker 3: it was Montas.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Montas.
- 24:35Speaker 3: And I was like, there's definitely no way.
- 24:37Speaker 1: Well, we're not going to solve it here today because
- 24:39Speaker 1: I really don't know. But I'm going to go with Laz.
- 24:42Speaker 1: And even that, Aaron was calling him Laz last night.
- 24:46Speaker 1: So I'm going to go with Laz. That's what I've
- 24:48Speaker 1: been saying. So he hasn't corrected me yet. He's a
- 24:50Speaker 1: big man. If he wants me to correct it, I'll
- 24:52Speaker 1: correct it. I didn't go bouquet, did I? I said
- 24:55Speaker 1: it Bucky. That's how he wanted it pronounced.
- 24:57Speaker 3: I mean, bouquet, I think would have been good.
- 25:01Speaker 1: So Laz Montez makes his debut last night and the
- 25:04Speaker 1: pronunciation of his name certainly goes down the list of
- 25:08Speaker 1: things that were exciting about that debut. A young man
- 25:13Speaker 1: with just elite power potential, somebody that not only has
- 25:18Speaker 1: been compared to Jordan Alvarez, but seems to be patterning
- 25:22Speaker 1: his game after him, has some connections to how Jordan
- 25:25Speaker 1: Alvarez came up, same coaching connections. And so there's a
- 25:30Speaker 1: belief that that's the kind of ceiling that we're looking at,
- 25:34Speaker 1: ceiling that we're looking at. Of course, the floor is
- 25:38Speaker 1: a concern. Somebody that is struck out 30% of the
- 25:41Speaker 1: time at the minor league levels, and then you get
- 25:44Speaker 1: to the major leagues, and it might not show up
- 25:46Speaker 1: on the opening game as he also faced a call-up
- 25:51Speaker 1: yesterday as well. He faced a minor league pitcher that
- 25:55Speaker 1: maybe he's faced before in the past. Who knows? But
- 25:58Speaker 1: that wasn't exactly facing Peyton Tolley last night for Laz Montes. And,
- 26:04Speaker 1: of course, the league doesn't quite have its book on
- 26:07Speaker 1: him just yet. But he's probably going to get exposed.
- 26:11Speaker 1: He's probably always going to have a strikeout issue. But
- 26:15Speaker 1: he's always going to bring that thunder in his bat.
- 26:17Speaker 1: And as he emphasized, I think he probably was interviewed
- 26:20Speaker 1: 15 times yesterday. And as he emphasized over and over,
- 26:24Speaker 1: I like to believe that I'm an all-around hitter. Yes,
- 26:27Speaker 1: I have power, but I like to believe that I'm
- 26:29Speaker 1: an all-around hitter. And he's a pretty good athlete for
- 26:31Speaker 1: his size as well. He can play some right field.
- 26:34Speaker 1: I watched him make a few mistakes in Tacoma, but
- 26:36Speaker 1: I also saw him make a lot of really good
- 26:38Speaker 1: plays as a right fielder in Tacoma. Some good instincts
- 26:41Speaker 1: for the position as well. So I think we have
- 26:45Speaker 1: a good one, but like anything else, I mean, Cole
- 26:49Speaker 1: Emerson splashed on the scene for us in the league finals.
- 26:53Speaker 1: caught up to him and he was dealing with an injury.
- 26:55Speaker 1: And then the next thing you know, he was ineffective
- 26:57Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. So he's going to
- 27:00Speaker 1: go through that for sure. But in terms of a
- 27:03Speaker 1: debut last night, that was about as good. That's fairytale
- 27:08Speaker 1: is what that was last night for Laz Montez. And
- 27:13Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, the power may not show up
- 27:16Speaker 1: every day, The defense may not show up every day,
- 27:19Speaker 1: but that personality is real. That personality shines. And you
- 27:23Speaker 1: got to see a taste of it yesterday. It's like
- 27:26Speaker 1: he lifted everyone's spirit by being in that dugout yesterday.
- 27:30Speaker 1: And especially Randy Rosarino. That's the most I've seen Randy
- 27:33Speaker 1: smile ever. Yeah, he was having a great year. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
- 27:38Speaker 3: But he's having a great year with a team that
- 27:40Speaker 3: hasn't been having a great year and that's hard. So
- 27:42Speaker 3: to get the win and you know, I mentioned it earlier,
- 27:45Speaker 3: but worth repeating again, we see so often see these
- 27:47Speaker 3: kids make debuts and have these monumental moments. And especially
- 27:50Speaker 3: for us, it's been in a losing effort. And it's
- 27:53Speaker 3: always a bummer when you see, you know, like Cole
- 27:56Speaker 3: Young hit his first home run, but the team's getting
- 27:58Speaker 3: blown out. So it's kind of a muted celebration. It's
- 28:00Speaker 3: like a, Hey man, good job. Here's a high five.
- 28:04Speaker 3: You know, they don't even really want to like lift
- 28:06Speaker 3: the trident up. And so for him to have been
- 28:08Speaker 3: able to have that moment, have the huge celebration and really,
- 28:13Speaker 3: especially with his personality, be able to show it all off.
- 28:16Speaker 1: That was fun. Yeah. Even the trident, he didn't really
- 28:19Speaker 1: know what to do with the trident. He's like, oh,
- 28:21Speaker 1: I'll take it. And then he tried to give it
- 28:23Speaker 1: right back. And they're like, no, no, no, no, carry
- 28:25Speaker 1: it in there. Manny Acta was laughing at him at
- 28:27Speaker 1: that point. I thought Aaron, one of his best calls
- 28:30Speaker 1: of the entire year was when they caught him playing rock, paper,
- 28:34Speaker 1: scissors with Randy. And Aaron's like, What a night for Laz!
- 28:38Speaker 1: He can do no wrong! He beat Randy Rosarino in rock, paper, scissors.
- 28:43Speaker 1: Randy let him do his guitar thing with the trident
- 28:46Speaker 1: at the end of the dugout, and he did it well.
- 28:49Speaker 1: He really, you know, he ripped those strings. So it
- 28:54Speaker 1: was just a really feel-good day, and that's kind of
- 28:57Speaker 1: the power of baseball, is that the night before... I mean,
- 29:00Speaker 1: we're sure. I saw a poll yesterday afternoon. This was
- 29:04Speaker 1: an actual poll on MLB Now, on MLB Network. And
- 29:10Speaker 1: its options were, should the Mariners be concerned, panicked, or
- 29:18Speaker 1: feel doomed?
- 29:20Speaker 4: Oh.
- 29:20Speaker 1: And doomed was 78.5%. Wow. So that was the feeling,
- 29:25Speaker 1: not just locally, but nationally, like what we watched. Two
- 29:30Speaker 1: nights ago, that was the final nail on the coffin.
- 29:34Speaker 1: And yet you can have such a fun night at
- 29:37Speaker 1: the ballpark the very next night because of stories like
- 29:40Speaker 1: Laz Montez. It really is a magical. Now, I believe
- 29:44Speaker 1: in the romance and the poetry of baseball. I'm kind
- 29:47Speaker 1: of a sucker. I'm a sap for that. But it
- 29:50Speaker 1: was hard not to have a good time watching him
- 29:53Speaker 1: play and watch the team kind of lift itself after
- 29:58Speaker 1: such a crap night the night before such a crap
- 30:00Speaker 1: loss the night before and to let this gregarious giant
- 30:06Speaker 1: of a rookie come up and put everybody in the
- 30:09Speaker 1: right frame of mind it was great to.
- 30:11Speaker 3: See it really was it was it was a lot
- 30:14Speaker 3: of fun i i did find myself at one point
- 30:16Speaker 3: though i was doing something we had the game on
- 30:18Speaker 3: and i looked over and i go wait a.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Minute It's only the fourth inning? Yeah, it was a
- 30:23Speaker 1: long game.
- 30:24Speaker 3: It lasted for a long time. And not because it
- 30:26Speaker 3: was boring. It was an exciting game. It was a
- 30:28Speaker 3: fun game.
- 30:28Speaker 1: It was just like, holy moly. We're not used to
- 30:31Speaker 1: long at bats.
- 30:32Speaker 3: It was like the game was in Hawaii. It took
- 30:35Speaker 3: twice as long. Yeah, we're not used to long at bats.
- 30:38Speaker 3: So that was different, too.
- 30:39Speaker 1: Maybe. Maybe that's what it was. They were on Hawaii time.
- 30:42Speaker 2: I think it was.
- 30:43Speaker 1: Maybe Laz Montez put us on Hawaii time. Hey, I'll
- 30:45Speaker 1: take it. But yeah, we're not used to long at bats.
- 30:48Speaker 1: And they had thrown a lot of pitches last night
- 30:51Speaker 1: as well. And then mounted a comeback. So we had
- 30:54Speaker 1: to make pitching changes as well. And then there was
- 30:56Speaker 1: an injury to an umpire. So it was a longer game.
- 30:59Speaker 1: We're not used to having games that long since the
- 31:02Speaker 1: pitch clock era began. But it was a win. And
- 31:07Speaker 1: hope springs eternal and perhaps through the eyes of a big,
- 31:13Speaker 1: you know, affable rookie.
- 31:15Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 31:15Speaker 1: We shall see. I'll take it. All right. Coming up next,
- 31:18Speaker 1: a little Reckless at Breakfast for you. Sports Radio 93.3
- 31:21Speaker 1: KJR FM. They're going to be able to do that
- 31:24Speaker 1: at an amphitheater, the big giant screen to watch the game.
- 31:28Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, at any downtime, you can
- 31:31Speaker 1: just wander into the casino. Yeah, you can.
- 31:36Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 31:36Speaker 1: You can place bets. And that playground. So Tulalip Resort Casino,
- 31:40Speaker 1: when all you want is everything, everythingtulalip.com.
- 31:43Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 31:43Speaker 3: And actually, the cool thing, too, you can place bets
- 31:45Speaker 3: from your phone while you're sitting in the amphitheater as
- 31:47Speaker 3: well because you're on Tulalip grounds.
- 31:49Speaker 1: There you go. There you go.
- 31:50Speaker 4: There you go.
- 31:50Speaker 1: Oh, there's a lot of ways. It'll be fun. A
- 31:52Speaker 1: lot of ways to have the time of your life.
- 31:54Speaker 1: And it's next Wednesday with Ashley Ryan. All right, coming
- 31:58Speaker 1: up at the top of the hour, we have our
- 32:00Speaker 1: college football season preview. I always say this, as only
- 32:03Speaker 1: we do. We're going to have a draft. I love drafts.
- 32:05Speaker 1: I love them more than my family. That's fair. And
- 32:08Speaker 1: so we're going to draft for our college football picks
- 32:12Speaker 1: for this upcoming season, Heisman pick, our national champion, our
- 32:17Speaker 1: Big Ten champion, and UW's record. So that's coming up.
- 32:20Speaker 1: And we are, this year, changing it from the green
- 32:25Speaker 1: jacket draft back to the showdown draft this year. And
- 32:30Speaker 1: so we're going to involve like other shows in on
- 32:34Speaker 1: this as well during the course of this new fall
- 32:37Speaker 1: season into, well, for the next calendar year. And then
- 32:41Speaker 1: also listeners. So we're going to have a listener participate
- 32:45Speaker 1: as well today in our college football season preview, first
- 32:49Speaker 1: ever showdown draft coming up at the top of the hour, 49451.
- 32:56Speaker 1: is our text line if you are interested in being
- 32:58Speaker 1: our college football picker for our first ever showdown. And
- 33:02Speaker 1: so for those of you that have wondered, because we've
- 33:05Speaker 1: not always been on YouTube, but we've been doing this
- 33:08Speaker 1: since we became The Morning Show, we really do have
- 33:11Speaker 1: a green jacket in here. It was Bucky's. He won
- 33:15Speaker 1: it at a golf tournament or something like that. I
- 33:17Speaker 1: think it was the Detlef Schrempf, wasn't it? Yep. And
- 33:20Speaker 1: it only fits him, so you can imagine what it
- 33:23Speaker 1: did to everybody else.
- 33:24Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 33:25Speaker 1: Um, we didn't put it on a lot. We should have.
- 33:28Speaker 1: We just, that was theater of the mind. But if
- 33:31Speaker 1: you want a green jacket, if you won one of
- 33:32Speaker 1: our green jackets, one, one of our drafts, our prediction contests, uh,
- 33:37Speaker 1: we did celebrate it. We gave you a song and
- 33:39Speaker 1: then we acted like we put it on. We never
- 33:40Speaker 1: really put it on, but it is here. It's like
- 33:43Speaker 1: a real tangible thing. And now that obviously you've heard
- 33:47Speaker 1: that Bucky's not going to be at least on a
- 33:49Speaker 1: permanent basis with us going forward. We're still working on
- 33:52Speaker 1: some stuff. It doesn't seem right to keep doing a
- 33:55Speaker 1: green jacket draft. I agree. It's his jacket. He finished off.
- 34:00Speaker 1: He won the last green jacket season that we did.
- 34:03Speaker 1: He won the year. And he was winning the two
- 34:07Speaker 1: outstanding drafts that we had for the baseball season as well.
- 34:12Speaker 1: So it just seemed like a good day to kind
- 34:13Speaker 1: of retire officially the green jacket. It is now just
- 34:18Speaker 1: a part of our morning show history. We can hang
- 34:20Speaker 1: it from the rafters. I think it's time. Yeah. You
- 34:23Speaker 1: did great, Green Jacket. You did. You did. And a
- 34:26Speaker 1: touching tribute. So we're going to bring this thing back,
- 34:29Speaker 1: if you're on YouTube. So we had this trophy made,
- 34:32Speaker 1: Jackson Feltz and I, years ago when we did this
- 34:35Speaker 1: thing called the Showdown. And we didn't really get that
- 34:38Speaker 1: much use out of it because I ended up doing
- 34:42Speaker 1: the mornings. So we only did one year of Showdown,
- 34:46Speaker 1: and that was... We made predictions at the beginning of
- 34:49Speaker 1: the year every show, and then I graded them at
- 34:51Speaker 1: the end of the year and then awarded it. I
- 34:54Speaker 1: don't even remember who won it. But it sat in
- 34:57Speaker 1: our office every year for the last nine years and
- 35:00Speaker 1: has not been used in any way. It's just gotten
- 35:02Speaker 1: in the way. And it even got to the point
- 35:05Speaker 1: where PS told us, like, I want to throw this
- 35:08Speaker 1: thing away. Is there any use for this? And I'm like, yeah,
- 35:11Speaker 1: we're going to make up a use for it. We're
- 35:13Speaker 1: going to retire the green jacket. We're going to bring
- 35:15Speaker 1: the showdown trophy back. And so we will now celebrate
- 35:19Speaker 1: our championships with a trophy celebration as opposed to a
- 35:23Speaker 1: green jacket celebration. And yet all the same rules to
- 35:26Speaker 1: the green jacket draft will apply going forward. So it
- 35:30Speaker 1: is basically the green jacket draft now once again called
- 35:34Speaker 1: the showdown. I love it. I mean, that thing looks hefty.
- 35:38Speaker 1: There used to be a little placard here that said
- 35:41Speaker 1: the showdown.
- 35:42Speaker 3: I don't know where it went.
- 35:42Speaker 1: I can make one out of aluminum foil if you
- 35:43Speaker 1: need me to. Yeah, the gaudier the better. I think
- 35:46Speaker 1: this thing should get abused over time.
- 35:48Speaker 4: Okay.
- 35:49Speaker 1: Yeah, we should treat it like the Stanley Cup. Yes.
- 35:51Speaker 1: With that much love and affection and also, you know,
- 35:55Speaker 1: take wee-wees in it.
- 35:57Speaker 3: Or drink beer out of it.
- 35:58Speaker 1: Drink beer out of it.
- 35:59Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 36:00Speaker 1: I like that plan. So we're going to bring it
- 36:03Speaker 1: back and we're going to have our first ever showdown
- 36:06Speaker 1: draft at the top of the hour. as we preview
- 36:09Speaker 1: the college football season. And so that's the plan going
- 36:13Speaker 1: forward here. I'm looking forward to it. And the two
- 36:18Speaker 1: wrinkles that we're bringing is that, number one, we're going
- 36:21Speaker 1: to involve listeners. So you will have a voice that
- 36:24Speaker 1: represents your– we're not going to have the same listener
- 36:26Speaker 1: every time we do a draft. And we're also going to–
- 36:29Speaker 1: it's the showdown, and that's what the showdown was. It
- 36:31Speaker 1: was shows versus shows. We're going to incorporate other shows
- 36:36Speaker 1: and the expert in-house– in whatever particular area. In lieu
- 36:41Speaker 1: of an expert today, we're going to have Anders Hurst today.
- 36:45Speaker 1: So that's next. Our preview of the college football season.
- 36:50Speaker 1: Thank you, Green Jacket, for all you did for us.
- 36:53Speaker 1: And hello again, Showdown Trophy, Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.