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WTHeck Happened? Congress Spending More Money With No Help For US Border · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Turning the page on the rundown. Friends, ladies and gentlemen, ruminators near
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  and far, Thanks so much. As always, you humble us with your
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  presence and your kindness. In sharing time, It's the Morning Show with Prestin
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  Scott for the five forty third occasion. It's Grant Allen over there in Studio
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  one A. I'm here in Studio one B, and I remind you I
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  am voted on twice every year. That's exactly right, that's how that works.
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  We are thrilled to have back on the program with us busy schedule,
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  busy calendar, but making time. US Congresswoman Kat Camick, Florida's third District
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  Cat, How in the world are you well, President, I'll vote for
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  you. I'm doing all right. Seriously, how are you? I mean
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  I when I talk to members of Congress, whether it's the House of the
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  Senate, I mean that sincerely because I can't get my mind around how difficult
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  it must be to have to find a way to plug into that maneuver within
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  it and then extract yourself with all your brain cells intact. Well, I
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  would tell you sincerely, but it might depress your listeners. I'll tell you
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  just Obviously, everybody watched what happened the day that we left DC and the
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  votes that went down and the things that happened, and you know, I
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  damn near cried on the house floor. I'm watching my country slowly die in
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  front of me, and it feels like you're a little bit alone and trying
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  to save it. And so it's frustrating, it's mad, it can be
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  a little bit depressing, but I think we need a lot of happy warriors
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  who can withstand all this negativity. And that's a huge part of it,
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  because it's just VC is designed to drag you down. It is literally a
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  place that sucks the life force out of you. And so it's nice to
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  be back in Florida. I'm sitting outside and having a cup of coffee,
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  getting ready for the day, and it just reminds me of what we're fighting
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  for. Truly. We broke down the spending bill on yesterday's program Cat and
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  well spending might be the wrong word. Aid package as it left the house,
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  I want to give you the opportunity just real quickly go through the individual
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  parts of that and why you voted the way you voted. Yeah, no,
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  that I appreciate that and I want to be accurate. Let me see
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  here. How about how about if I start with the Ukraine, the funding
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  for Ukraine, your position on that. Yeah, well, once again I
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  voted against Ukraine funding. I'm really proud of the fact that I have not
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  supported any Ukraine funding in my time in Washington, and that's for a number
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  of different reasons, but the biggest being there's no mission plan. It is
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  an endless black hole of what we would call a money pit, and there's
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  no accountability, there's no oversight. Now people would tell you in this latest
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  version that they embedded oversight into it. Why haven't they done that in the
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  first one hundred and thirteen billion dollars. Why did it take us doing another
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  sixty for them to do that. That's ridiculous. That should be a no
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  brainer. And again, no mission, no war termination plan, nothing that
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  would show that this money would actually go to help advance or stop Russia.
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  And so again, once again I was a no. And I think a
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  lot of people around the country are seeing that this situation in Ukraine, this
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  war in Ukraine, while it breaks people's hearts, I mean you you can't
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  look at the images and not feel something. Sure, but that being said,
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  we have our own problems here at home, and so I have very
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  specific reasons and some that I've talked with the intelligence community about that I feel
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  strongly we need to really reevaluate all this money and all these funds that we're
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  sending. And so I was again a no. I offered an amendment in
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  a last ditch effort to try to at least pair the bill down because we
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  knew that it was going to pass. There's enough Republicans and of certainly every
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  Democrat wants to support this effort, and so there's a group of conservatives that
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  we were trying to at least amend the bill to pare down its scope.
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  And so for me, I offered an amendment to cut ten point five billion
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  dollars from the bill, and that would be all of the economic aid.
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  I don't believe it's appropriate under any circumstances for US to be paying for civil
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  tension plans in Ukraine or any foreign nation for that matter. And so that
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  amendment got the most votes on the floor. It got one hundred and fifty
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  four Republicans supporting that amendment, but it wasn't enough to pass. All Right,
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  we're gonna pause. Right there, Kat, we got to take a
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  quick break. We're going to pick up right there, go through the rest
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  of this aid package that was passed. US Congresswoman Cat Camick with me on
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  the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Think of him as your uncle, Preston,
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  the relative you actually enjoy having around and not just at the holidays.
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  This is the Morning Show with Preston Scott continuing with you as Congresswoman Kat Cammick.
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  You were talking about the spending bill for Ukraine, Democrats waving flags inside
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  the House of another nation that was at the site. Oh man, that
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  one broke my heart. Yeah again. You know, I didn't support Ukraine
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  funding, and we had fought to try to pare down the bill as much
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  as possible and unfortunately to no avail. And when it passed, you know,
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  I had Democrat colleagues handing out Ukrainian flags on the House floor, which
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  made my blood boil. I don't even wear lapel pins of other nations on
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  my collar. Often you see people who wear like an American flag with a
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  you know, a Scottish flag or a you know, trying to think of
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  like, oh, here's a Brazilian you know, they do it for ceremonial
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  stuff. I don't even do that because I'm an American and I represent this
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  nation, and so to see US representatives waving a foreign nation flag on the
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  floor, it infuriated me. And so we actually, in the aftermask have
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  introduced the legislation to prohibit and I can't believe we have to do this,
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  but to prohibit a foreign nations flag from being flown on the House floor.
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  And you would not believe the pushback that we have received on this, It's
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  unbelievable. But if you can't even agree as a body what nation's flag we're
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  going to wave on the House floor, which it should be one and only
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  in that's old glory. If we can't even agree on that, how in
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  the heck did people expect us to actually tackle the really important things, the
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  tough things. You can't. So this is a starting place, basically a
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  reset of what we're having to do in introducing this legislation to allow only the
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  American flag to be flown and displayed on the House floor in the chamber.
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  Let's skip over the rest of that bill, but let's talk about the I
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  want to say it was the rule that put them all together and then passed.
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  Is that how that all works? To send it to the Senate,
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  it had to be put together in one bill. Yeah, So there's been
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  a lot of bad information about what happened. In order for a bill to
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  come to the floor, there's two ways for it to come under suspension,
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  which means you suspend the rules and regular order and it requires two thirds of
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  Congress to pass it, or you come under what's called regular order and it
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  comes under a rule, and that means a rule gets you amendments that allows
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  you to modify the bill. And any good conservative would want you to actually
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  be able to amend and modify a bill. So that's why I was pushing
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  for a modified bill. Now people were upset saying, oh, we could
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  have killed it in the cradle. Actually you couldn't have because what would have
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  happened, and this was well established. Everybody in Washington knew this. If
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  Republicans had joined with the Democrats, as many of my colleagues did, to
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  try to kill the rule by effect stopping the bill from coming under a singular
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  rule, the Chuck Shoe Bill would have been discharged on the floor, meaning
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  only about three Republicans, and there would have been far more would have signed
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  on to a discharge petition, bringing a entirely clean meaning no oversight, no
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  accountability, no nothing, straight Democrat bill to the floor and it would have
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  passed overwhelmingly. So that's the thing that people don't want to talk about.
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  That's the thing that people ignore. But it's critically important to understand the process
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  because for me, I believe we should have single issue bills, and this
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  allowed us, even though I don't like the outcome. I was able to
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  stand on the House floor and vote up and down. Singularly on Ukraine.
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  Of course I voted no. But other members who wanted to vote for say
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  Israel and support Israel, but they didn't want to support Ukraine. They were
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  able to do that under the Rule bill, where they wouldn't have had the
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  opportunity if we would have been forced and we would have been forced to accept
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  the Chuck Schumer package and President. On a side note, I will say
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  I have heard from multiples of my colleagues who actually said point blank that they
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  wanted the Speaker to bring the Chuck Schumer bill because it allowed them to go
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  campaign quote against the Rhinos. Again, I'm watching my country die in front
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  of me, and we have people who are playing political games and using tactics
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  to try to make themselves look better, to try to position their colleagues in
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  a negative light. And again, my country's dying. We don't have time
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  for these games. We need serious people, and right now we don't have
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  a chamber of serious people who will hang touff for the benefit of our nation.
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  Really generous with her time and has been for a few years now.
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  US Congresswoman Kat Camick. This goes back to me watching her do one interview
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  on Fox News a few years ago, shortly after she was elected, and
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  I'm like, yeah, she's one of the few out there that can articulate
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  a conservative position because Kat, so few really own it and can speak from
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  the heart about this stuff. But going back to this whole spending bill,
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  help us out, because how did we get a bill out of the House
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  that did nothing for our border? Simply put, we didn't have two hundred
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  and eighteen Republicans that would support a rule on a bill that had border in
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  it. And I know that sounds crazy, but that's truly what happened.
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  I mean, I was in the room, in the negotiating room, and
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  yeah, if you don't have two hundred and eighteen Republicans that will hang stuff
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  together, then you get a more liberal outcome. So without naming any individual
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  names at this point, because that's not good for you and it's not helpful
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  in the process that you have to live and work in. How to explain
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  how Republicans are supposed that's supposed to be the second or first biggest issue in
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  twenty twenty four, the southern border and the economy. How is it that
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  Republicans are not in unanimity on the need to fix the southern border. If
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  you talk to any Republican today that is an elected official in Washington, they
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  will tell you that they support border security. Sure. But what we had
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  in this particular situation, in order to avoid getting the Chuck Schumer bill,
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  Mike Johnson felt that he needed to use the Ukraine aid as the leverage point
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  for border and because that was the situation, he said, Okay, we
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  can jam the Senate because the Dems in the Senate and Joe Biden, they
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  want Ukraine funding more than anything. He said, let's pair Ukraine and border
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  together. And instead what we had was a group of Republicans who got together
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  and they said, if you put Ukraine in this, I will not support
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  the rule. And he said, no, you have to understand, I'm
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  trying to use this as a leverage point. And they said, no,
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  we're going to take down the rule, which is unprecedented. By the way,
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  very very rarely have have Republicans taken down a rule. It's become very
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  new this Congress. And so seeing that, you have to say, do
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  I take the Chuck Schumer bill? And so that was the choice though,
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  and he forced to take it. That was the option. You either if
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  you don't, if you if you don't, just go forward with the rule.
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  You're stuck with the Schumer bill. Yeah, because it would have been
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  discharged and I know it's very wonky and in the weeds, but it would
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  have been discharged on the House floor and there would have been no border.
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  What are the alleged conservatives, I mean, these are supposed to be the
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  people that are on our side are and how are they defining it? How
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  are they defending this? Well, because they're hiding behind policy and procedure.
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  They are hiding behind the fact that everyday Americans don't understand what a suspension bill
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  is or a rule bill. They go out there and they just really lay
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  it out in a way that is not one hundred percent truthful. And I've
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  called several of my colleagues up and I've said, you're not being honest,
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  and they have said, well, it's great for fundraising, and it's disgusting.
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  It's disgusting. And so, as I was telling you Pressing during the
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  break, we're in a situation where today, because of these games, we
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  have attempted, and by we, I mean Republicans, we have said we're
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  going to run a hail Mary play every single play, And anybody who's a
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  football fan knows that has never worked in any game ever. You will not
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  win a game running a hail Mary play every single down. And so as
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  a result of these games and these so called efforts, you end up getting
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  a more liberal outcome that to me is unacceptable. We were sent to Washington
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  to be the majority hang cuff as a majority, and people are using this
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  as a way to try to boost their own standing, their own profile,
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  and their campaign fundraising. We're almost we're almost out of time. So let
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  me ask you this. Had Republicans stayed together at two eighteen, what would
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  the bill have looked like it would have had a border security component that Chuck
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  Schumer would be absolutely hyperventilating right now of how the heck he was going to
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  pass that bill. The Ukraine portion would have been less security bill. I'm
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  sorry, the Ukraine portion would have been less one hundred percent. It would
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  have been at least ten and a half billion, if not more or less
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  save in taxpayer money. So, because Republicans could not work together over the
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  common goal of securing our southern border, we have no funds going to the
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  southern border, and we have more funds going to Ukraine. And it's because
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  of Conservatives. Yeah, God bless America. Kat, Thank you. I
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  appreciate the explanation. It helps us, even if it infuriates us. Welcome
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  to my world. We'll talk again in a few weeks. Thanks so much,
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  Thank you so much. Pressing all righty US Congressman Kat Camick. See,
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  I had a feeling there was a little more to this story. The
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  Freedom Caucus is the one that forced this to have no aid to the southern
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  border. Get your head around that. The conservative wing of the party made
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  good, made good the enemy, sorry, made perfect, the enemy of
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  good. We would have actually gotten somewhere on the southern border, and now
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  we're stuck having to rely on the Senate Republicans to shoot it down. Twenty
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  eight after the hour