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All About David Icke · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show with your hosts, Adam Todd
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Speaker 1: Brown and Connor ms Pattern.
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the Show. I'm still Adam
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Speaker 2: Todd Brown.
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Speaker 1: And I'm unfortunately Connor m expect.
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Speaker 2: We are your hosts. Yeah, how's it been going since
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Speaker 2: we recorded last good? You know, talked to Little Kanye.
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Speaker 1: Talked a little Kanye. I topped off the Brita filter.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'd like to.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: Which which of the hosts would you say is the
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Speaker 1: worst about topping off the Brita filter?
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Speaker 2: Everyone? But you really pretty much? Wow? I think yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: kind of Yeah. I think it's pretty much just you
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Speaker 2: who actually refills it.
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Speaker 1: Well, shots, everybody, It's not that hard, Okay, I drink.
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Speaker 1: I also drink a lot of water.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, we just got a new Britta filter. A
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Speaker 2: guy I used to work with posted this thread on Twitter,
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Speaker 2: Soren Bowie, who is a writer for American Dad Now,
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Speaker 2: but he used to be an editor at Cracked. He
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Speaker 2: posted this Twitter thread about how he had an ant
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Speaker 2: infestation and couldn't find where they were coming from, and
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Speaker 2: eventually no pulled this old Britta filter out of the
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Speaker 2: back of a cabinet above his refrigerator and it just
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Speaker 2: ants just poured out of it. And they had been
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Speaker 2: planning or laying eggs inside the bridle filter. Yeah, it
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Speaker 2: sounded pretty fucking horrifying.
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Speaker 1: Yeah that's rough, dude, I fucking hate that. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: Adam Cousins tweet. It's a long time ago. I still
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Speaker 1: think about it. It's a if we're being honest at
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Speaker 1: this point, it's just a Britta make water colder or
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Speaker 1: water make a colder. Yeah, yeah, which I feel like much. Yeah, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I got it. My ex girlfriend gave me a brit
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Speaker 1: Of filter like two years ago and we're still using it.
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Speaker 2: I had a weird thing I used to do Airbnb
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Speaker 2: in Santa Monica. I would rent my house out and
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Speaker 2: just go do shows on the road or go see people,
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Speaker 2: like two weeks out of the month. Yeah yeah, and
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Speaker 2: it paid my rent totally.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And I had this The last person who stayed there,
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Speaker 2: it was this old dude, probably in his seventies or eighties,
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Speaker 2: And the first night he's there, he calls me and
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Speaker 2: is like, what am I supposed to do with this
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Speaker 2: water pitcher in the refrigerator? And I was like, I
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Speaker 2: don't know. Fucking drink out of it. That's what most
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Speaker 2: people do.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: One woman bought me a new filter once, like, well,
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Speaker 2: like just.
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Speaker 1: You know, use it. Yeah, I like. I like the
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Speaker 1: there is something when you get older where every single
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Speaker 1: thing needs to be explained or it's a problem.
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Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, most people just use it.
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Speaker 2: You can just slide it out of the way if
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Speaker 2: it's a problem. I come back and we had done
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Speaker 2: this arrangement where he was gonna stay for a few
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Speaker 2: days and then go to northern California and then come
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Speaker 2: back and stay for a couple more days. And I
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Speaker 2: went home in between those two stays and he had
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Speaker 2: taken the water pitcher and emptied it out and put
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Speaker 2: it on the floor next to the refrigerator. And I
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Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck is this guy's problem? So
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Speaker 2: I refilled it and put it back in, you know,
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Speaker 2: not thinking anything of it. Then I come back after
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Speaker 2: his next stay, he had emptied it out and put
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Speaker 2: it under the sink, like where all the chemicals and
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Speaker 2: cleaning products are, And it's like, what the fuck kind
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Speaker 2: of conspiracy does this guy have against water filter?
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Speaker 1: Well, this is so much of an affront to you,
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Speaker 1: you know.
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Speaker 2: And he also left some arts and crafts thing that
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Speaker 2: I hope he did with a grandchild, and it just
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Speaker 2: wasn't his. But it was made out of popsicle sticks.
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Speaker 1: And I thought, you're gonna say made out of poppers.
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Speaker 1: He had like a had like a black panther necklace
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Speaker 1: full of jungle juice. It was brand of poppers, not
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Speaker 1: a racist thing.
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Speaker 2: It was a like made out of popsicle sticks and
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Speaker 2: it said love on the side.
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Speaker 1: Ooh, that's that sucks.
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Speaker 2: And that was the last house. Last time I opened
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Speaker 2: my place up for Airbnb.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've considered. I think my house. You've been to
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Speaker 1: my house. It's probably too shitty to airbnb.
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Speaker 2: It would be rough.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it would be like I don't know how
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Speaker 1: much disclaiming I could do and still not get a
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Speaker 1: bunch of three stars. Like look, all right, we have walls.
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Speaker 2: It's fifteen dollars a night.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, and again, at that point, it wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: worth it, right you know.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, we're we're talking about clearly we're talking about
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Speaker 2: conspiracy theorists.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, just sucking the we're profiling that guy.
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Speaker 1: We we we we doxed him, all right, We got
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Speaker 1: his full linked.
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Speaker 2: Spit a guy turned out it was David Ike.
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Speaker 1: What Yeah, a little little celebrity.
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Speaker 2: We're continuing Conspiracy Theorist month talking about David Ike. He's
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Speaker 2: one of the more interesting. I mean, every consp theorist's
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Speaker 2: story is pretty interesting, but David Ike's is, yeah, just phenomena.
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Speaker 1: It's pretty fucking odd it. And he is a guy
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Speaker 1: that I that I remember, do have heard like mentioned
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Speaker 1: on like British Panels shows and stuff like that. And
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Speaker 1: I never really knew who it was. And I think
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Speaker 1: I kind of knew who I've read about him, but
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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I just didn't connect that it was him.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, he's he's kind of a uh he's
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Speaker 1: a popular sort of reference point over there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, it's David Ike. I c k E but
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Speaker 2: pronounced ike. He was the son of.
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Speaker 1: A well David ickh.
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Speaker 2: That's how most people pronounced it. I had to google
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Speaker 2: it before we recorded this.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't want to be disrespectful to this man
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Speaker 1: in his work.
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Speaker 2: There's some YouTube page out there and it's just a
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Speaker 2: girl with a perfectly pleasant voice, and it's nothing but
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Speaker 2: videos of her pronouncing words.
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Speaker 1: Really yeah, damn that that girl gets jerked off to
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Speaker 1: probably more than some points.
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Speaker 2: And even though she's making a fucking killing on YouTube.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I had the same thing with
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Speaker 1: this hot girl. He used to do calculus too, and
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Speaker 1: I remember being like, well, like the way she explains
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Speaker 1: the fucking integrals. I couldn't even remember a calculus term.
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Speaker 1: That's how long it's been since I've applied my life
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Speaker 1: to anything productive.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember shit about calculus. I was good
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Speaker 2: at math. Math was my favorite subject.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was pretty good at it too. I remember.
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Speaker 1: I remember like getting the calculus and being like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I actually see how math could be like useful for
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Speaker 1: more than shit that I can have an Excel spreadsheet,
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Speaker 1: do you know? Being interested by it?
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Speaker 2: But stuff I'm never gonna do. Yeah, no, I do.
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Speaker 1: I dropped my calculus class to go do an open
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Speaker 1: mic and coast to MESA. So what the fuck do
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Speaker 1: I know about anything?
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Speaker 2: Probably a good choice. So let's talk a little bit
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Speaker 2: about David Ike. His father was a World War Two
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Speaker 2: veteran and this had a huge impact on him. This
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Speaker 2: is a quote from David Ike about his father's time
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Speaker 2: in World War Two. He was stunned to see Roman
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Speaker 2: Catholic churches with untold wealth in places like Naples, surrounded
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Speaker 2: by unbelievable poverty, while those in such dire need went
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Speaker 2: on giving to their merciless religion. It made him vehemently
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Speaker 2: anti religion for the rest of his life. But unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: he also rejected any idea of life after death because
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Speaker 2: he equated that with the view of the religions he's
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Speaker 2: so despised. His Naples stories and many more that he
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Speaker 2: told me shaped my outlook on life from a very
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Speaker 2: early age.
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Speaker 1: See at this point, he sounds pretty cool.
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Speaker 2: That all sounds normal. It sounds like something that a
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Speaker 2: kid living in that situation might come away with. Yeah, certainly,
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Speaker 2: but it definitely doesn't explain everything that happens in this guy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, career again, it's always one thing. It's like, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I went to one meeting and I thought that, yeah,
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Speaker 1: maybe we should redistribute the means of production. Then all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden.
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Speaker 2: He was super poor growing up. This is another quote
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Speaker 2: from him. On a number of occasions when there was
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Speaker 2: a knock on the door, my mother would tell me
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Speaker 2: to hide under the window or behind a chair. There
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Speaker 2: we would stay still in quiet until she gave the
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Speaker 2: all clear. I had no idea what there were vampires
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Speaker 2: like I am legend. I had no idea what this
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Speaker 2: was all about until later when I realized the knock
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Speaker 2: was the council rent man coming to collect the money
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Speaker 2: we didn't have, and when no one answered, he would
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Speaker 2: walk around the house looking in the windows. This happened
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Speaker 2: many times, and it's funny. I sometimes still get a
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Speaker 2: knock in my stomach when there's a knock at the door. Well,
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Speaker 2: because now it's gonna be like British intelligence, Yeah, to
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Speaker 2: shoot you in the face or something.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What's their intelligence in Scotland Yard? It's six
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Speaker 1: six Yeah, is Scotland Yard Scottish?
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Speaker 2: No, Scotland Yard is there. I think it's there, Like
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Speaker 2: National Police.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be there, like a secret service, yeah,
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Speaker 1: something like that, like their version of the FBI. Again,
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Speaker 1: that's how cute British people are. It's like even their
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Speaker 1: fucking contract killers for the governments and like a brand
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Speaker 1: of sheets, yeah, you know, like Scotland Yard. They have
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Speaker 1: the best summer sausage.
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Speaker 2: I like how they're like he described the guy as
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Speaker 2: the council rent man, like the low income housing in
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Speaker 2: England is called council estates. Uh huh, and that sounds
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Speaker 2: so fucking nice.
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Speaker 1: It does, Yeah, the council estates. But if you literally
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Speaker 1: that's the England is just better at branding. Like we
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Speaker 1: have the projects right the pjs. Oh yeah, we're living
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Speaker 1: in the Council housing.
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Speaker 2: Oh nice, well, Council of State congratulations. Yeah no, it's
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Speaker 2: bad times.
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Speaker 1: Kanye is going into affordable housing. He really is. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's a Donda. His company is gonna make like low
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Speaker 1: income housing for Chicago or something like that. I saw
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Speaker 1: a news article and happening. Yeah, and the houses all
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Speaker 1: look like like like where Kanye would live. So it's
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Speaker 1: like this like very like like like tiny shitty, just
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Speaker 1: but it's like, yeah, man, I want to live in
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Speaker 1: the bathroom of a fancy hotel is basically what it
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Speaker 1: looks like.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the bathroom of fancy hotel is usually pretty nice.
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Speaker 1: Oh dude.
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Speaker 2: Even the bathroom of the Hollywood Hotel is great.
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Speaker 1: The bathroom the Hollywood Hotel is great if you if
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Speaker 1: you want to piss in Los Angeles, do yourself a
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Speaker 1: favor and go to the goddamn en Does next to
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Speaker 1: the comedy store. The doors go all the way Florida ceiling.
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Speaker 1: You got a little apartment in there. It's fucking nice.
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Speaker 1: Never once have I been hassled on my way in
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Speaker 1: or out of this bathroom. Oh. I had the W
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Speaker 1: in fucking Chicago. They put me up for that TV
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Speaker 1: the TV thing and how I stole the bathrobe. I
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Speaker 1: stole the towels. I got this fucking great acne like
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Speaker 1: face scrub. I made out good. Yeah. Yeah, every time
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Speaker 1: someone mistakenly puts me up in a nice hotel for comedy,
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Speaker 1: I'd take full advance. I'm like nude as soon as
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Speaker 1: I'm in the door.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we went. I did a like press thing for
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Speaker 2: the first Planet of the Apes movie in this current
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Speaker 2: reboot of.
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Speaker 1: It about that Obama aid taking shots Roseanne. That's right,
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Speaker 1: you're big or true will not be unnoticed by the
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Speaker 1: Conspiracy Show podcast at this point, a month after it happened,
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Speaker 1: when this episode comes down and.
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Speaker 2: They put us up at the W and they were like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: if you want anything from the mini bar, we cleaned
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Speaker 2: the fucking every person I think cleaned out their mini
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Speaker 2: bar and also whatever like gummy bears and shit, like
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Speaker 2: just caught it in your bag. Yeah, and the next
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Speaker 2: trip we went on with them, they.
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Speaker 1: Were like, no mini bar, it was locked. Yeah, because
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Speaker 1: that's probably fucking four hundred dollars.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. I was drinking like mini bottles of
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Speaker 2: Jamison and just alcohol. I never drink. I drank gin
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Speaker 2: and I fucking hate gin. Yeah, but it's like free
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Speaker 2: mini bar. I'm gonna kill it.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah sure, uh.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, I don't know. I don't know how we
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Speaker 2: got on all that. But let's get back to David Ike.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about his early career a little bit. He
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Speaker 2: entered into football at age nine, even though he was
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Speaker 2: a stupid kid. And it's worth noting that's the football
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Speaker 2: that anyone can do.
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Speaker 1: It's not like, yeah, it's not like good football.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like real football. And he eventually, at
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Speaker 2: the age of fifteen, left school to join a professional
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Speaker 2: football team, alvm Tree City, and he also played on
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Speaker 2: the reserve team for Oxford United as well as Northampton Town.
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Speaker 2: And he came down with rheumatoid arthritis at twenty one.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and fucking nasty disease.
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Speaker 2: Ends up having to quit professional sports, and what an
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Speaker 2: age to come down with it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I mean I have a people close to
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Speaker 1: me in my life that suffered with that, and it's
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Speaker 1: fucking brutal. And it's one of these things where it's
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Speaker 1: such like I remember having hemorrhoids, you know, And this
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Speaker 1: says like they don't think I'm equating the two, but
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Speaker 1: I had hemorrhoids when I was a kid, and it
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Speaker 1: was so bad. I just remember just being like I
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Speaker 1: remember just laying on the couch looking at my mother.
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Speaker 1: It's like, how do I make this go away? Like
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Speaker 1: it's just like it does, like to fucking the kind
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Speaker 1: of any kind of constant pain like that that you
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Speaker 1: can't turn out for a while, fucking deteriorates your like
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Speaker 1: ability to fucking think to a point that it's like
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Speaker 1: I almost can empathize more with someone who's a conspiracy
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Speaker 1: theorist if they're living with a chronic disease, because it's like, fuck,
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Speaker 1: I gotta do something.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And it's not like, you know, quitting sports
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Speaker 2: made the disease go away.
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Speaker 1: Thing.
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Speaker 2: He has been living with his entire life, but after
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Speaker 2: he quit sports, he ends up having to move back
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Speaker 2: in with his parents. Perfect conspiracy theorist move right there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really like the Rhodes Scholarship for conspiracy theorists,
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Speaker 1: moving back in with your parents.
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Speaker 2: And in seventy three he started working with Leicesters Advertiser.
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Speaker 2: I like that I pronounced Lester right when it's spelled
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Speaker 2: l E I c E s t er. Yeah, and
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Speaker 2: then fucked up Advertiser. Yeah, that's fine, and then moved
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Speaker 2: up to the BBC, reporting on football against.
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Speaker 1: The Big Black.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. In nineteen eighty one, he worked as a sports
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Speaker 2: reporter for Newsnight, but also reported on several other stories,
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Speaker 2: and by the early eighties he was hosting the BBC's
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Speaker 2: most watched sports show.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like if Terry Bradshaw all of a sudden
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Speaker 1: was just like there's jews in your water, you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's exactly like that. That's what makes his story
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Speaker 2: so crazy. Like he had a perfectly fine career going
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Speaker 2: for him. Oh absolutely, he could have kept doing that
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Speaker 2: ship the rest of his life probably, And.
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Speaker 1: That's a fucking easy gig. Once you're like kind of
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Speaker 1: the face of a sport, people get used to you
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Speaker 1: and you gotta you gotta get pretty bad before they
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Speaker 1: slide in a new a new guy.
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Speaker 2: Like even Marv Albert, like he had a really gnarly
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Speaker 2: sex scandal at one point, and he was an announcer
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Speaker 2: for the Knicks and for the NBA in general, and
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Speaker 2: like he had this sex scandal in the nineties where
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Speaker 2: he like maybe assaulted this prostitute or cross dresser or
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Speaker 2: something like that, and he was kicked off the air
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Speaker 2: for a while, and eventually people were like, man, we
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Speaker 2: miss Marv Albert. Yeah, and it's.
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Speaker 1: Really it's kind of like it's like the closest you
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Speaker 1: can get, probably in broadcasting, to be like a tenured professor.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. Yeah, So it's crazy to me that
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Speaker 2: this guy didn't just ride that out and maybe like
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Speaker 2: do the conspiracy shit in your space time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking have a nom de plume, bro, Yeah he uh,
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Speaker 1: which sounds like what French people call farts.
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Speaker 2: But in the eighties he starts getting involved with the
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Speaker 2: Green Party and starts.
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Speaker 1: Smoking that Green Party exactly. Crazy guy.
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Speaker 2: That was a lizard noise, and he starts kind of
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Speaker 2: rebelling against the Thatcher government. But also around this time
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Speaker 2: starts feeling like he's being followed by a presence. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and it was.
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Speaker 1: Not a van followed by a van. You're like, maybe,
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Speaker 1: but a presence.
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Speaker 2: You're like, hmm, that's different. Yeah, there's At one point
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Speaker 2: he said he was sitting in a hotel.
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Speaker 1: Imagine, imagine being haunted by a ghost that drives by
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Speaker 1: in like generic flowers delivery van that woe yourself out of.
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Speaker 1: They're just like, yeah, there's this pizza place that doesn't exist,
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Speaker 1: keeps driving around next to me and no one at
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Speaker 1: the wheel.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, this presence, he says, accompanies him the whole
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Speaker 2: time he's working for the Green Party, And in the
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Speaker 2: eighties he starts turning to like alternative and new age medicine,
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Speaker 2: and everything changes when he goes to see a psychic.
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Speaker 2: The psychic's name is Betty Shine, which that's an appropriate.
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Speaker 1: Psychic, that's an awesome name.
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Speaker 2: He visits her in nineteen ninety and he sees her
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Speaker 2: as someone to speak to regarding his arthritis as well
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Speaker 2: as the presence following him. Which you know, you can
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Speaker 2: handle the arthritis without a doctor, why not hit up
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Speaker 2: the psychic first.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: She tells him after three visits that she has made
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Speaker 2: a connection with the presence, despite Ike not having mentioned
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Speaker 2: the presence to her. Okay, he went three visits without
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Speaker 2: going by the way, there's a ghost following me at
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Speaker 2: all times?
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Speaker 1: Also has he? I wonder if you'd ever mentioned this
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Speaker 1: in an interview or anything.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I would sit down if I thought a
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Speaker 2: presence was following me, I would sit down in front
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Speaker 2: of that psychic and just go do you see it?
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Speaker 1: First things first?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, can we address the elephant in the room,
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Speaker 2: which is a ghost over my right shoulder?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, Okay, I'm worried about my career, but
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Speaker 1: mostly I'm being haunted. I feel like that takes precedence over.
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Speaker 1: So do you think it's gonna work out with Carol?
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Speaker 1: You know? I mean, I feel like we like each other,
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Speaker 1: but I love it's like love love or just like
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Speaker 1: we're used to love. No.
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Speaker 2: So, according to Shine the Feelshit Lady.
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Speaker 1: The presence is classic English accent, is.
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Speaker 2: Chinese in appearance, going by the name.
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Speaker 1: He is always in a liquor store no matter where
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Speaker 1: he goes.
17:41
Speaker 2: Going by the name Wang Ye Lee Yep, and Wang
17:46
Speaker 2: Ye Lee made several predictions about David Ike and just
17:50
Speaker 2: predictions in general, that there will be great earthquakes. These
17:53
Speaker 2: will come as a warning to the human race. They
17:56
Speaker 2: will occur in places that have never experienced them. Maybe
17:59
Speaker 2: like Oklahoma, which now leads the country besides Alaska in earthquakes,
18:03
Speaker 2: no kidding, Yeah, because of fracking.
18:05
Speaker 1: I was about to say, oil's got to be involved.
18:07
Speaker 2: Yeah. They overtook California in like twenty fifteen or sixteen.
18:11
Speaker 1: Fucking good for you guys.
18:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right around the time we gave a bunch
18:15
Speaker 2: of land in Oklahoma back to like the natives.
18:19
Speaker 1: There, you touched it last Hey, we're done with it.
18:22
Speaker 2: Now you have it.
18:23
Speaker 1: I hope that fuck it. I hope they've become known
18:25
Speaker 1: for earthquakes because I'm tired of fucking traveling and people going, oh,
18:27
Speaker 1: I like them earthquakes. I'm like, I literally have slept
18:30
Speaker 1: through ninety five percent of the earthquakes in California. Yeah.
18:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're not as big of a deal like I.
18:36
Speaker 2: Even when I feel one, it's just like, oh, was
18:40
Speaker 2: that an earthquake? Or yeah, did someone bang something in
18:43
Speaker 2: the apartment.
18:43
Speaker 1: I panic way more when my credit card, like the
18:46
Speaker 1: credit card machine's down at the store, and I'm just like,
18:48
Speaker 1: are we being emped? That's what I think every time.
18:51
Speaker 1: That's what I think every time I go to a
18:52
Speaker 1: place that has shitty wi Fi. I think we're being amped,
18:55
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna just gonna go steal fresh
18:57
Speaker 1: water and try to get underground.
19:01
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen at some point. It is. You're gonna
19:04
Speaker 2: be right one time.
19:05
Speaker 1: God help me if I get money, because I'm just
19:07
Speaker 1: gonna become an EMP preparedness guy. Here's I'm gonna be like, Yeah,
19:11
Speaker 1: you know what, I really should have put some away
19:13
Speaker 1: for like health insurance and you know, like putting a
19:16
Speaker 1: down payment on a home. But here's what I have.
19:18
Speaker 1: I have a lot of sneakers and rations. So can
19:22
Speaker 1: I trade these for like a like a loan. I
19:24
Speaker 1: don't know how this works.
19:27
Speaker 2: Another prediction from Wang Yai Lee. This one is about
19:31
Speaker 2: David Ike. He's a healer who is here to heal
19:34
Speaker 2: the earth and will be world famous. He will face
19:37
Speaker 2: enormous opposition, but we will always be there to protect him.
19:41
Speaker 2: Sometimes he will say things and wonder where they're from.
19:44
Speaker 2: They will be our words. Also, he will write five
19:48
Speaker 2: books in three years. Politics is not for him. He's
19:51
Speaker 2: too spiritual. Politics is very unspiritual and will make him unhappy.
19:56
Speaker 2: And the last prediction one man cannot change the world,
20:00
Speaker 2: but one man can communicate the message that will change
20:03
Speaker 2: the world. I think he took that last one to
20:06
Speaker 2: me and he was talking about Hitler because he gets
20:09
Speaker 2: really anti Semitic after this he does.
20:12
Speaker 1: Telling being a psychic and having like aig broken damn
20:16
Speaker 1: person in front of you and telling them something like
20:17
Speaker 1: this is so profoundly fucking cruel. I really hate psychics.
20:22
Speaker 1: I got into a huge fight with a girlfriend about
20:24
Speaker 1: this one time because she's like, I thought it was fun.
20:26
Speaker 1: I'm like, they just pray on people like my fucking
20:28
Speaker 1: grandma who lives on a fixed income and wants to
20:31
Speaker 1: feel like there's some kind of greater purpose and meaning
20:34
Speaker 1: in her fucking life. And it's just like, you're fucking Charlatan,
20:38
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it makes me. I got so pat
20:41
Speaker 1: and I just I go, I go off on this
20:43
Speaker 1: big rant or whatever. And she's like, I thought it
20:45
Speaker 1: was cool, and I was just like, Oh, that's why
20:48
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna this, why I'm gonna be a fucking
20:50
Speaker 1: lifelong bachelor. Probably it is because I just like, I'll
20:53
Speaker 1: tell you a little thing. I'll just start She's like, yeah,
20:55
Speaker 1: how do you feel about psychics? And I didn't really
20:56
Speaker 1: think about it. I assuming she was gonna like, yeah,
20:58
Speaker 1: they're dumb as fuck, and I just kind of just
21:00
Speaker 1: like got. I was just like in a pissy mood
21:01
Speaker 1: and I just like like a three minute monologue and
21:03
Speaker 1: I was like, why are you being so quiet? And
21:05
Speaker 1: I was like kind of trying not to cry.
21:07
Speaker 2: I think I'm stupid, and.
21:08
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, no, no, when you do it,
21:11
Speaker 1: you know, it's just cool when you do it.
21:12
Speaker 2: It's cool when you do it. Yeah. I've always like,
21:15
Speaker 2: you see these psychic store fronts and it's like, shit
21:19
Speaker 2: is expensive in La. Yeah, how are they affording that property?
21:23
Speaker 1: If nothing else, No, I wouldn't even go to one
21:25
Speaker 1: as a goof. I don't want to fucking support that industry.
21:28
Speaker 2: I went to Cassadega, which is the biggest community of
21:33
Speaker 2: psychics and mediums in the world. Okay, And it's a
21:37
Speaker 2: town in Florida where literally every door has a sign
21:40
Speaker 2: on it offering psychic or medium services. Okay, And it
21:45
Speaker 2: was garbage. I was there with my girlfriend, or the
21:49
Speaker 2: girl I was dating at the time, and she went
21:52
Speaker 2: in first, and then I went in after her, and
21:57
Speaker 2: then we talked after and basically every question the psychic
22:01
Speaker 2: asked me was based on something my girlfriend told her. Yeah,
22:06
Speaker 2: and she was like, she told me the thing about
22:09
Speaker 2: I see a presence around you, and she was like,
22:12
Speaker 2: his name starts with a J. And I'm like, did
22:16
Speaker 2: my cousin Jason die? Like, what the fuck have I
22:18
Speaker 2: don't know who this is? Like where you're talking about?
22:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
22:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like the first woman we tried to
22:25
Speaker 2: go to was just way too hammered.
22:29
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, she was supposed to be communicating with spirits,
22:32
Speaker 1: not drinking. Hey, come on.
22:35
Speaker 2: But yeah, it all felt pretty scammy.
22:38
Speaker 1: Yeah.
22:39
Speaker 2: Ah, any who, David, I took it very, very seriously.
22:44
Speaker 2: And the next thing he does after the psychic meeting,
22:50
Speaker 2: he appears on the British television program Wogan, and he
22:55
Speaker 2: begins the show by describing the importance of certain colors
22:58
Speaker 2: and the energy they create when explaining why he's wearing
23:01
Speaker 2: a turquoise jumpsuit. He then describes himself as the son
23:06
Speaker 2: of the Godhead, causing the audience to laugh. The program
23:10
Speaker 2: shows Ike's transformation in the eyes of the British audience.
23:14
Speaker 2: The show's host, Terry Wogan, at one point notes of
23:17
Speaker 2: the audience's reaction to Ike. They're laughing at you. They're
23:21
Speaker 2: not laughing with you.
23:24
Speaker 1: That's rough.
23:25
Speaker 2: And I even himself says.
23:28
Speaker 1: I'm just imagining a little kid that looks like Joe Rogan.
23:30
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm Joe Wogan. Alful Bayne.
23:35
Speaker 2: I've seen a clip of this show and it was
23:40
Speaker 2: it was someone talking about time travel, and he was
23:44
Speaker 2: talking about time travel in this appearance, but the person
23:48
Speaker 2: was they were more sympathetic to David Ike, and they're like,
23:53
Speaker 2: everything he's saying is true. And look at this audience
23:55
Speaker 2: laughing at him. And it was brutal the way people
23:58
Speaker 2: were laughing at him.
23:59
Speaker 1: He was uncomfortab.
24:00
Speaker 2: But like it's you made a good comparison with Terry Bradshaw.
24:03
Speaker 2: Like if he showed up and was just on Info
24:05
Speaker 2: Wars Tomorrow, yeah, and was like Time Travels real, man, he.
24:09
Speaker 1: Looks like Jesse Venturo, but he's not him, you know.
24:12
Speaker 2: Like that would be strange as fuck. Yeah if that happened,
24:16
Speaker 2: and that's David Ike. Yeah, Like he was just a
24:18
Speaker 2: soccer announcer who one day was like, I'm wearing turquoise
24:21
Speaker 2: because the vibrations it gives off in Time Travels Real, Yeah,
24:25
Speaker 2: that is that's some strange shit.
24:28
Speaker 1: Okay, So if time travels real, are the galaxy going
24:30
Speaker 1: to cover the spread? Help me out?
24:34
Speaker 2: And one of the at least one of those predictions
24:37
Speaker 2: did come true. David Ike wrote a bunch of books.
24:40
Speaker 1: Wow, the one who would have thought the one he
24:42
Speaker 1: had the most control over it.
24:45
Speaker 2: The first one, in nineteen ninety four, was called The
24:47
Speaker 2: Robots Rebellion. In one chapter, Ike suggests that ancient civilizations
24:52
Speaker 2: in Mesopotamia, such as the Sumerians, were visited by alien
24:57
Speaker 2: life forms that in turn became their god as well
25:01
Speaker 2: as the basis of the god of the Abrahamic religions. Interesting, Yeah,
25:06
Speaker 2: the judgmental this is a quote the judgmental gods, so
25:09
Speaker 2: widely quoted in the Old Testament and other ancient texts.
25:13
Speaker 2: Who threatens to bring horrors upon human beings if they
25:16
Speaker 2: don't do as he tells them, merely reflects the attitude
25:19
Speaker 2: of the negative ets or channeled entities. They are not
25:23
Speaker 2: the words of God, but those of the extraterrestrials and
25:26
Speaker 2: channeled entities who were thought to be gods. Go to
25:29
Speaker 2: church and worship in et. Well, yeah, that's it's actually
25:34
Speaker 2: not that different from have you ever watched Ancient Aliens?
25:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course you have.
25:39
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you. When I've moved into this apartment, the
25:42
Speaker 2: first couple of days, we didn't have internet, and my
25:44
Speaker 2: TV runs off the internet, and I went to a
25:47
Speaker 2: store just to buy like a magazine or something to read,
25:51
Speaker 2: and I ended up buying like a Time magazine Ancient Aliens.
25:55
Speaker 2: It was like fifteen dollars. It's one of those like
25:58
Speaker 2: colossy sort of hard cover magazines. Yeah, and make them
26:02
Speaker 2: kind of nice commemorative things. And it was basically just
26:06
Speaker 2: a paragraph synopsis of each episode of Ancient Aliens. And
26:10
Speaker 2: I still read the thing from fucking oh yeah, I bet,
26:12
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, And that's kind of the theory behind Like
26:17
Speaker 2: you see hieroglyphics and there's like a fucking flying spaceship
26:21
Speaker 2: and oh.
26:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's one pretty fucking there's some pretty
26:24
Speaker 1: fucking good ones that are kind of compelling, where it's like, oh, yeah,
26:26
Speaker 1: they see this weird looking kind of craft that's drawn
26:29
Speaker 1: and it carved into stone. Well, we made something like
26:32
Speaker 1: that that looks like that, and we put it in
26:34
Speaker 1: a wind tunnel and it actually flies really fucking well,
26:36
Speaker 1: and you're like wow, Oh, yeah, interesting, you know, there's
26:38
Speaker 1: like some cool shit there. And I don't know, I'm
26:40
Speaker 1: not an Ancient Aliens guy, but it's like fun.
26:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it it raises the question of how, like
26:47
Speaker 2: one of the things that comes up in Ancient Aliens
26:49
Speaker 2: is how did so many different cultures that definitely weren't
26:52
Speaker 2: communicating at the time, how did they all end up
26:56
Speaker 2: drawing the same kind of shit in the sky and
26:58
Speaker 2: what were they seeing? Yeah, and I think that's kind
27:02
Speaker 2: of the theory he's getting at here.
27:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's like, you know, basically trying to kind
27:07
Speaker 1: of putting kind of a hat on the hat and
27:10
Speaker 1: a hat with the whole, like choose the part of
27:12
Speaker 1: the religion that you like and apply that to your
27:14
Speaker 1: life and discard the rest. Where he's like, you know,
27:17
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the Satanic verses that's Holman Rushti wrote,
27:19
Speaker 1: you know, which I think, you know, it's a little
27:21
Speaker 1: bit different, but it's like, oh, the bad shit was Aliens.
27:24
Speaker 2: Right, right. And he talks a lot about Romans and
27:28
Speaker 2: the Catholic Church bringing about the New World Order, which,
27:31
Speaker 2: of course, yeah, he describes the Freemasons as being behind
27:34
Speaker 2: America's decision to fight the British in the American Revolutionary War,
27:39
Speaker 2: with Revolutionary leaders choosing Mason iconography for America's later symbols.
27:44
Speaker 1: That part is kind of true.
27:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some Masonic symbol use at work in a
27:51
Speaker 2: lot of the early America stuff. DC is laid out.
27:55
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a very odd, oddly structured city.
27:58
Speaker 2: It's like this kind of compass shape to it, which
28:02
Speaker 2: is one of the big Freemason symbols.
28:05
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean maybe I'm just always feel like
28:08
Speaker 1: if you're into sketchy shit, like what is this hiding
28:11
Speaker 1: clues business? You know, if I if I had a
28:14
Speaker 1: scene society, there wouldn't be no fucking clues, all right.
28:17
Speaker 1: It's like I watched the document it's a great shitty
28:19
Speaker 1: documentary about how Paul McCartney is really dead, you know,
28:22
Speaker 1: and it's narrated by fake George Harrison on his deathbed
28:25
Speaker 1: and he's.
28:25
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, all that one, we were very sad and
28:30
Speaker 3: we wanted to tell everyone, but they were going to
28:32
Speaker 3: kill us. So we get clues and all the albums.
28:36
Speaker 1: You know, and it's all this and it's just.
28:38
Speaker 2: Like what the fuck would you do?
28:40
Speaker 1: The whole Like, oh, well, we're gonna put a triangle
28:42
Speaker 1: on everything so everyone knows, but only the real heads,
28:45
Speaker 1: you know. And it's just like, no, if the real
28:48
Speaker 1: secret societies don't have a goddamn symbol, all right, they
28:51
Speaker 1: don't have a chance or a fucking anything any piece
28:54
Speaker 1: of paper with their fucking itinerary on it.
28:56
Speaker 2: You know.
28:57
Speaker 1: It's just like dudes that get in the room together
28:58
Speaker 1: and the hash shit out.
29:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's still weird that the symbols are there
29:03
Speaker 2: and it is.
29:04
Speaker 1: Yeah. I do wonder if that's more of just like
29:06
Speaker 1: an esthetic nod. I do wonder if that's kind of
29:08
Speaker 1: like the joggers of the seventeen hundreds, where it's just like, oh, yeah,
29:11
Speaker 1: remember when we thought compasses were cool, you know, like
29:13
Speaker 1: that's the that's the Nike swoosh. But for like power brokers,
29:17
Speaker 1: you know.
29:17
Speaker 2: Freemasonry was apparently behind communism and the nineteen seventeen Russian Revolution.
29:23
Speaker 2: And it also quotes the Illuminati Protocols. The book does,
29:28
Speaker 2: which are more commonly known as the Protocols of the
29:31
Speaker 2: Elders of Zion, which are one of the most infamous
29:35
Speaker 2: anti Semitic writings of all time. Also a pretty much
29:39
Speaker 2: proven forgery. Yeah, that is not a real thing, So
29:43
Speaker 2: of course people were up in arms about him quoting
29:46
Speaker 2: a fake document, like, oh, everything a quote has to
29:49
Speaker 2: be true. And he also talks about Bill Cooper, who
29:53
Speaker 2: we talked about on the Alex Jones episode a little bit.
29:56
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't remember this, but Bill Cooper's JFK
29:59
Speaker 2: theory was that JFK was killed because he was about
30:03
Speaker 2: to expose a drug trade involving occult practicing aliens. Oh,
30:08
Speaker 2: which in retrospect sounds a little more plausible than my
30:12
Speaker 2: secret service accidentally shot him theory.
30:15
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean we may have to go do
30:17
Speaker 1: an updated JAFF campisode.
30:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't take the occult aliens into account. He
30:22
Speaker 2: also wrote another book in nineteen ninety five called The
30:26
Speaker 2: Truth Shall Set You Free, where here he describes a
30:30
Speaker 2: race coming down from the Solar system, and it was
30:35
Speaker 2: a combination of the gods mating with the people of
30:39
Speaker 2: Earth and they made what the aryan race, superior blonde haired,
30:44
Speaker 2: blue eyed race.
30:45
Speaker 1: Yep, the one with that you can kill with bread.
30:48
Speaker 1: You know that you're a mighty species. You know when
30:52
Speaker 1: you can when you can get tooken out by by gluten,
30:56
Speaker 1: and you know that shit that baby ducks eat exclusive
31:00
Speaker 1: poisoned to probably eight percent of us. The Aryan and
31:05
Speaker 1: he does people who can't drink milk without farting all day. Yes,
31:08
Speaker 1: the mighty Aryan race.
31:10
Speaker 2: And he does pretty explicitly say that this is the
31:13
Speaker 2: master race that Hitler talked about. Like so he's, uh,
31:19
Speaker 2: I guess kind of in favor of.
31:20
Speaker 1: That, yeah, kind of a h He's just like, well,
31:23
Speaker 1: I mean I thought he was a little mean about it,
31:25
Speaker 1: but he.
31:27
Speaker 2: Is big on talking about the Rothschilds and how a
31:32
Speaker 2: global elite cadre of Jews kind of run the world. Yeah,
31:37
Speaker 2: are responsible for all the bad shit. But he does
31:41
Speaker 2: stress that it's not anti semitic of him. He just
31:45
Speaker 2: doesn't think that most of the Jews involved in these
31:48
Speaker 2: conspiracies understand that they're involved in the conspiracy.
31:52
Speaker 1: So it's it's like I always feel like with this shit,
31:54
Speaker 1: it's like, just say, you hate this specific banker, and
32:00
Speaker 1: the guy's grandfather doesn't have anything to do with it,
32:04
Speaker 1: you know, just like the color he is like, yeah,
32:06
Speaker 1: I don't like, you know, the fucking Woody Allen because
32:10
Speaker 1: he's a rapist, not because he's a Jew rapist, you know.
32:14
Speaker 2: He's part of a global conspiracy of rapists. All Jews, Jews,
32:19
Speaker 2: nothing wrong with it. That doesn't mean all juice an
32:22
Speaker 2: just doesn't mean all Jews are bad. Just Jews that
32:25
Speaker 2: know how bad they are are bad.
32:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like zoom in a teeny bit. You know,
32:30
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I'm with you, man, fuck the banks.
32:32
Speaker 1: Then you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. Yeah, we don't
32:35
Speaker 1: need a fucking I don't know.
32:38
Speaker 2: He also uh he in this book has a diagram
32:43
Speaker 2: that points out how global elites created both communism and
32:47
Speaker 2: fascism with a purpose of setting them against one another
32:51
Speaker 2: and using the ensuing war as a reason to establish
32:54
Speaker 2: the UN and the European Union. You know, yeah those
32:58
Speaker 2: things happened.
32:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty run of the millshit.
33:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he's right. Then Princess Diana dies, he becomes
33:04
Speaker 2: one of the main conspiracy theorists behind that.
33:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was his take on it? Exactly? I remember
33:10
Speaker 1: being a little confused. Was he like, a they did
33:13
Speaker 1: it because he's a Muslim guy?
33:15
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well his is way the fuck out there. Which
33:17
Speaker 2: is great about this guy because almost none of his
33:19
Speaker 2: conspiracies are remotely believable. H Yeah, which is the neatest.
33:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all fun ones. It's nothing. We're like, well,
33:27
Speaker 1: maybe the Tower seven is a little weird. It's all
33:31
Speaker 1: just like, well, yeah, it was fucking space Hitler.
33:37
Speaker 2: Princess Diana theory. He suggests that the Windsor Royal family
33:41
Speaker 2: wanted Diana for the purposes of a sacrifice connor oh duh,
33:46
Speaker 2: and also because their genetics were becoming imbalanced towards the
33:50
Speaker 2: non human side and they needed someone with blonde hair
33:54
Speaker 2: and blue eyes.
33:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, you needed that to go right to the fucking source.
33:58
Speaker 2: And she was a victim of mind control.
34:00
Speaker 1: Needed a fresh that inbred coffee. The Little Master race.
34:05
Speaker 2: She was a victim of mind controlled by the royal
34:07
Speaker 2: family along with her children, and Prince William's birth was
34:11
Speaker 2: induced for We could probably finish this sentence sentence together.
34:17
Speaker 2: The purposes of the Babylon Brotherhood Summer Solstice.
34:20
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so the worst music festival to you, That
34:24
Speaker 1: firefest is bad. The food at the Babylon Brothers Summer Solstice,
34:28
Speaker 1: it's all like lentils and babies. Yeah.
34:32
Speaker 2: Uh, he says. She was named after another Queen Diana,
34:36
Speaker 2: which was the pseudonym of Queen Diana Ross samaramis the
34:41
Speaker 2: queen of the Illuminati. Her followers migrated to France and
34:46
Speaker 2: created a space of worship to their queen around where
34:49
Speaker 2: the Pont de Alama is, where Princess Diana's car crash occurred. Hence,
34:54
Speaker 2: I argues the location of Diana's death was chosen as
34:58
Speaker 2: a place of sacrifice. Yeah, again, you're a pretty standard fair.
35:02
Speaker 1: Adding like, if you're doing a murder hit, why do
35:05
Speaker 1: you the location is? Do you want a weird you
35:08
Speaker 1: want to random a location as possible? Yeah, oh, landmarks
35:11
Speaker 1: you want you want a motel in Jersey, You don't
35:14
Speaker 1: want to do it in the in the center of
35:15
Speaker 1: a bunch of outback steakhouses that make a pentagram, you know. Yeah,
35:19
Speaker 1: have you seen that?
35:21
Speaker 2: No?
35:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one neighborhood where like atback steakhouses, just
35:24
Speaker 1: the locations of them draw a pentagram, like perfectly. It's
35:27
Speaker 1: pretty sick.
35:28
Speaker 2: That's amazing. Yeah, that's one of the things I'm most
35:32
Speaker 2: excited about moving to Burbank. I have an outback steakhouse.
35:35
Speaker 1: Now, are you an atback steakhouse guy?
35:37
Speaker 2: Their cheese fries with bacon are a fucking delight.
35:41
Speaker 1: All right, all right, listening, if you.
35:44
Speaker 2: Order a steak, they'll just bring you a big ass
35:46
Speaker 2: bowl of sauteed mushrooms with it for like an extra dollar.
35:49
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love fucking yeah.
35:51
Speaker 2: Good times. I'm way and out back.
35:53
Speaker 1: Uh.
35:54
Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety nine, his book The Biggest Secret. This
35:57
Speaker 2: is where he starts to talk about the reptilia and
36:01
Speaker 2: all the world leaders being lizards. It opens with a
36:05
Speaker 2: quote from William Reich, who is a controversial figure in
36:08
Speaker 2: the field of psychoanalysis who claimed that a biological energy
36:12
Speaker 2: called orgone existed. Reich died in prison and his publications
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Speaker 2: were burned by the government. We need to look into
36:19
Speaker 2: that guy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy sounds good.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never heard about him.
36:22
Speaker 1: Yeah. Is this like orgon therapy?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Orgon therapy is kind of like primal scream therapy. I
36:29
Speaker 1: had a buddy that was really into that when he
36:31
Speaker 1: was in like high school. But it's like a weird
36:33
Speaker 1: kind of like Catharsis type based, like you know, version
36:38
Speaker 1: of psychotherapy.
36:39
Speaker 2: Weird. Yeah, that's probably it's got to be related. I
36:41
Speaker 2: think that was working in psychoanalysis.
36:43
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's fucking it's fucking creepy shit, you know. Yeah,
36:47
Speaker 1: he's just like, Yeah, I was like nineteen and I
36:49
Speaker 1: was just studying at U c Irvine, and I like
36:51
Speaker 1: to go in a room and scream to get out
36:53
Speaker 1: to something or other.
36:54
Speaker 2: I don't get out the orgone problem. Yeah, get that
36:56
Speaker 2: orgon out, get that or get that orgone gone, like oregone.
37:01
Speaker 1: I have a wife up a girl before you get
37:02
Speaker 1: the oregon right.
37:04
Speaker 2: Think it straight man, And yeah, this is the book
37:08
Speaker 2: where he starts talking about the reptilian shit. In chapter two,
37:12
Speaker 2: he describes how specific reptilians the Onanaki, shout out to
37:17
Speaker 2: ancient aliens again live underground in catacombs and caverns. The
37:21
Speaker 2: Chupacabra and Dracula are both claimed to be references to reptilians.
37:27
Speaker 2: He brings up the work of another conspiracy theorist named
37:29
Speaker 2: Kathy O'Brien, who claims that past US presidents are reptilians
37:34
Speaker 2: and that George Lucas is secretly working with the CIA
37:37
Speaker 2: and NASA.
37:38
Speaker 1: Who cares, Yeah, who gives it? I've bet whatever they
37:41
Speaker 1: do is gonna suck, you know.
37:43
Speaker 2: I mean, Star Wars, sure its softened us up for Nazis,
37:46
Speaker 2: but whatever did it?
37:48
Speaker 1: Really it is it's kind of.
37:50
Speaker 2: A Nazi story, not like a pro Nazi story. Yeah,
37:54
Speaker 2: fighting fascism kind of story. Yeah.
37:57
Speaker 1: And it's like kids think Stormtroopers are cool, right, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, and they're basically the SS.
38:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's that.
38:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, so sure, maybe he's working with the CIA. Doesn't
38:08
Speaker 2: make the original trilogy any worth worth watching. I said
38:12
Speaker 2: that wrong, That's fine? Yeah, really high. Uh so, yeah,
38:17
Speaker 2: he talks about the on Naki and Alex Jones appears
38:22
Speaker 2: as a critic during this time, describing Ike as someone
38:25
Speaker 2: that discredits others in the conspiracy minded movement. All right,
38:29
Speaker 2: so now I believe everything David Ike says. Yeah, if
38:32
Speaker 2: Alex Jones is saying that, I'm.
38:33
Speaker 1: Trying to do some character assassination on our boy.
38:37
Speaker 2: And the thing about so it's.
38:40
Speaker 1: A bit that guy likes money and hot rocks, if
38:43
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
38:46
Speaker 2: And the thing about his lizard people theory is it
38:49
Speaker 2: also comes off as kind of anti Semitic, Yeah, which
38:53
Speaker 2: is just one of the things keeping people from believing
38:57
Speaker 2: it fully.
38:58
Speaker 1: I suppose, Well you had me until the anti zionist
39:03
Speaker 1: sentiment is, what the Fuck'm am I using that? Quickly?
39:06
Speaker 1: I guess an anti Semitic Zionist is like the people
39:10
Speaker 1: that believe that Israel is like the God given homeland. Correct, Yeah, okay.
39:14
Speaker 2: There was maybe we talked. I think we maybe skipped
39:18
Speaker 2: over it in the Larueche episode, but in the notes
39:20
Speaker 2: for some something I just recorded, there was a mention
39:25
Speaker 2: of a guy who just lost his job in like
39:27
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen for saying that, you know, originally Hitler just
39:31
Speaker 2: wanted to relocate Jews to Israel, so he was kind
39:35
Speaker 2: of the original Zionist.
39:36
Speaker 1: Oh God, and people were like, whoa, you don't know
39:40
Speaker 1: where he was going to take the ashes, you know exactly. Yeah, yikes.
39:44
Speaker 2: So, in discussing Ike's Reptilian thesis, David G. Robinson of
39:49
Speaker 2: the University of Edinburgh.
39:51
Speaker 1: Well, it feels like a waste of the word thesis,
39:53
Speaker 1: you know exactly.
39:55
Speaker 2: David G. Robinson, University of Edinburgh, probably during Fringe Fest,
39:59
Speaker 2: describe the ways in which ike strain of conspiracism differs
40:03
Speaker 2: from more traditional conspiracism. This is a quote. New age
40:07
Speaker 2: signifies a particular narrative within the twentieth century Anglo American
40:12
Speaker 2: religious field, typified by millennialism and Wholeismlism. Millennialism refers to
40:19
Speaker 2: the teleological doctrine that a radical, progressive transformation of the
40:23
Speaker 2: world is imminent. It is here understood in contrast to apocalypticism,
40:29
Speaker 2: which posits destructive rather than transformational, teleological scenarios. Both New
40:35
Speaker 2: Age and conspiracism are teleological, although traditional conspiracism was traditionally
40:41
Speaker 2: apocalyptic rather than millennial shut up.
40:47
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, just like doom or gloom. You know, it's like, right,
40:50
Speaker 1: this is a doomer salvation.
40:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, doom and doom, but just different kinds of doom. Yeah. So,
40:58
Speaker 2: the one thing surprising about this guy very anti Trump, yeah,
41:02
Speaker 2: which is unusual for conspiracy theorists. A lot of conspiracy
41:06
Speaker 2: theorists took it as like a blow to the elites
41:09
Speaker 2: or whatever, because Trump's definitely not one of the elites. Yeah, uh,
41:14
Speaker 2: and so they supported him. But David Ike actually took
41:18
Speaker 2: a lot of issue with Trump. He noted the irony
41:21
Speaker 2: that Trump had swimmed throughout life in the swamp that
41:24
Speaker 2: he claimed to be draining.
41:26
Speaker 1: You know what, I kind of just realized about Trump,
41:28
Speaker 1: if he like in terms of like him putting him
41:30
Speaker 1: in like a rich guy elite, I think he would
41:33
Speaker 1: be like the puffy you know, because Puffy's not a
41:36
Speaker 1: good rapper. He's not particularly talented. He just kind of
41:40
Speaker 1: like pimped out his name and made some decent like
41:44
Speaker 1: branding decisions, right, you know, so I feel like a
41:47
Speaker 1: rappers begrudgingly Oh yeah, yeah, no, I said, Puff liked
41:51
Speaker 1: it neat. You know, but they're they're they're just like,
41:53
Speaker 1: h Puffy's here. I don't think. I do think Puffy
41:54
Speaker 1: shows up to a party and people are like, oh great,
41:56
Speaker 1: it's Puffy. I think like, hey, Puff, what's going on?
41:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like the more the actually talented Yeah.
42:02
Speaker 1: At the at the fucking ceremony in the woods, you
42:05
Speaker 1: know where fucking you know, like the Berkshire Hathaway execs
42:08
Speaker 1: are all like, you know, eating a child.
42:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, are a fucking around an owl effigy Yeah, hey
42:13
Speaker 2: don Yeah. I wonder if he even got invited to
42:18
Speaker 2: ship like that.
42:18
Speaker 1: I think he's he's too much of a fucking blabbermouth.
42:21
Speaker 1: I don't think you got to do any of that ship.
42:23
Speaker 1: I think they I think they made him feel like
42:24
Speaker 1: he did. Yeah, I think they kind of did. The
42:27
Speaker 1: Little Brother. Here's the mad Cats controller. It's not plugged
42:29
Speaker 1: in your sonic, you know.
42:31
Speaker 2: I could see that. So yeah, that's that's pretty much.
42:35
Speaker 2: David Ike started out as a football announcer and host
42:40
Speaker 2: ended up Reptilian conspiracy theorist connoisseur.
42:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you got to give, honestly, one of the
42:49
Speaker 1: better careers an athlete can have after their playing days
42:52
Speaker 1: are over. Yeah, it's this or car dealership.
42:54
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I always thought it was neat that Jake
42:56
Speaker 2: Plumber became a handball player after being a quarterback for
43:00
Speaker 2: all those years, But this is so much cool.
43:02
Speaker 1: Oh this is great. Yeah. Yeah. How many books does he.
43:04
Speaker 2: Have exactly probably a few about handball. He's apparently very good, Okay,
43:08
Speaker 2: which that's interesting. I didn't know you could even be
43:11
Speaker 2: that good at handball.
43:12
Speaker 1: I didn't know there was a competitive level.
43:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's apparently. I mean, I'm sure he's not making
43:18
Speaker 2: quarterback money or money at all, but.
43:20
Speaker 1: I mean it's not that fucking the ESPN from Dodgeball
43:23
Speaker 1: eight vo jo.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
43:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's probably a thing where you get sponsors,
43:27
Speaker 2: like handball still has to have equipment and shit.
43:30
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well it's like I watched like the lumberjack
43:32
Speaker 1: games at the lobby of like a fucking like a
43:35
Speaker 1: mechanic when I was out in Oklahoma and I was
43:37
Speaker 1: just like, brought to you by Craftsman. Saws the only
43:40
Speaker 1: one that the real lumberjacks use. You want to be
43:42
Speaker 1: like this guy who's famous for eight seconds in this
43:45
Speaker 1: one fucking local TV carryer provider, you buy Craftsman. It's
43:50
Speaker 1: like that, but it's just like, oh yeah, Adidas will
43:52
Speaker 1: give you guys a fucking Chipotle gift card if you
43:54
Speaker 1: guys all wear their shoes while you play handball.
43:57
Speaker 2: Have you ever watched Forged in Fire.
43:59
Speaker 1: I Fortune and Fire O good. It's the fucking greatest man.
44:03
Speaker 2: I love when they chop the pig at the and
44:06
Speaker 2: like when they're testing everyone's knife and he turns around
44:08
Speaker 2: and goes, your blade will kill?
44:10
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's like a little cut that ship rocks.
44:14
Speaker 2: That show was so fun.
44:15
Speaker 1: I watched that show on an airplane the other day.
44:17
Speaker 1: It was so good. That was like I was going
44:19
Speaker 1: through the queue and I never give a shit of it.
44:20
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I have Forged in Fire marathon, Sign
44:24
Speaker 1: me the fuck up.
44:25
Speaker 2: It's just people making knives, oh.
44:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's what's all about the people. It's all
44:29
Speaker 1: about just like this guy is a hobby knives maker
44:33
Speaker 1: who drives a truck and uh now he's on TV
44:36
Speaker 1: and you get to watch that just happen. You get
44:38
Speaker 1: to just see what happens. It's so good, it's so
44:40
Speaker 1: fucking great. So, yeah, that's David Ike. Go out and
44:43
Speaker 1: read all his books and find out about how Obama's
44:46
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45:08
Speaker 1: I don't even know about that.
45:09
Speaker 2: We're done. We just launched a politics podcast.
45:12
Speaker 1: I know. You got to listen to that, Adam and
45:13
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45:18
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45:23
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45:27
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45:29
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Speaker 1: On this weekend? Folks? June fifteenth and sixteenth, I'm in Austin,
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46:01
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46:03
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46:08
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46:10
Speaker 1: just go to a diner with you. If you don't
46:11
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46:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, I always whenever we're on the road, we always
46:15
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46:18
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46:19
Speaker 1: We just did it for the Meboy shows. It's a
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46:22
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46:24
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46:26
Speaker 2: All right, let's get the fuck out of here. Connor
46:29
Speaker 2: say goodbye, goodbye everybody, goodbye everybody. We love you.
46:37
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