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- 0:00The thing where I find myself going to step at the next state as well is feeling
- 0:04this like need to succeed and this need constantly engage. Social media is a
- 0:10terrible thing too because it'll constantly encourage you to go for that next
- 0:14dopamine rush. Having a cell phone next to the bed literally encourages me to check
- 0:18every time I see a little light flicker on the telephone to read the alert.
- 0:21We have terrible lifestyles right now in the United States. There's a ton of
- 0:25substances that we're consuming on a consistent basis whether through the air or
- 0:28through the food or through the water. That can make it easier to go into that
- 0:31sympathetic state on accident. I want to actually touch on. I'm using that as an
- 0:38example of one of the things that keeps my nervous system high in
- 0:43fire. But there's so many other things like literally like what are some of
- 0:47the things that give me four or five things that you say that keep our nervous
- 0:50systems up in this sympathetic state. I'd say the biggest thing is trauma and
- 0:53drama. I would say that actually likely fits into both. And the trauma piece
- 0:58can actually last for a very very long time after the drama ends. And anything
- 1:02that reminds you even close of that. Get you right back there. One of the other
- 1:07things that I think a lot of people don't really do a lot of thinking about is
- 1:10not having good social hygiene. I think it's actually a big thing who you're
- 1:14surrounding yourself with. Primarily if you have people in your life even if
- 1:18they're not when lose or lose lose people. But if you have people that are even
- 1:21when when but for whatever reason it's constantly edging on your trauma or
- 1:24drama. It's going to cause problems and you're going to end up having scenarios
- 1:28where even it's not their fault. It's just a little still not something you can
- 1:32work with. At least not until you go and do the reframing. And you go and bring
- 1:37yourself and bring yourself through that trauma and understand why you're
- 1:41feeling this way. I think another big thing is we have terrible lifestyles right
- 1:47now. In the United States there's a ton of substances that we're consuming on a
- 1:51consistent basis whether through the air or through the food or through the
- 1:53water. That we really shouldn't be. I think that's very well known. And that can
- 1:57actually that can make it easier to go into that sympathetic state on accident.
- 2:00Because your body is going into panic mode. It's like it's the panic
- 2:03button. And whatever puts your body into panic mode gets into a sympathetic
- 2:06state. And once it's in panic mode it's really hard to get it out without some
- 2:10sort of intervention. I would say that the thing that where I find myself going
- 2:16into sympathetic state as well is feeling this like need to succeed. And this need
- 2:22to constantly engage. Social media is a terrible thing too because it'll constantly
- 2:26encourage you to go for that next dopamine rush. It'll constantly encourage you
- 2:30to be in that quick reactant switch state, which is your fight or flight state.
- 2:33Like social media does that to you over time. One of the things I what I was
- 2:37trying to what I was getting at there. And I mean you you've gone into a lot deeper
- 2:41things than I was even going to go to. And because what I was going to say is
- 2:44what are the things that keep us in our sympathetic nervous system? Cell phone
- 2:48alerts. 100%. Yeah. No, it's having the cell phone next to the bed is not just an
- 2:53EMF thing. Yeah. But having the cell phone next to the bed literally encourages me
- 2:58to check every time I see a little light flicker on the telephone to read the
- 3:01alert. Like someone sent you an Instagram message. And I'm like, well, not do
- 3:05do I need to check it? Because you're going to get anxious. What you
- 3:08happen to get anxious about their spot. Is this something important? Is it
- 3:11something that I really need to take a look at right now? And in the brain. My
- 3:14background is clinical psychology. And I've just said that a bunch and but the
- 3:17you know, and I always look at that the brain doesn't like a an open an open
- 3:22loop. It wants everything closed. It wants everything closed. And I want to
- 3:26bring everything to fruition. And if there's anything that makes me think
- 3:30there's an open loop. I need to go close it. And something as little as and
- 3:34you notice most notifications just tell you there is a notification. They
- 3:38don't tell you what the notification is. Because I want you to open the app.
- 3:41Because I want you to open the app. And it's like, so I see a, you know, John
- 3:47Hacker sent you a, you know, liked your post or whatever. And I'm like, what
- 3:52post do you like? And your brain starts that cycle all over again. Which again,
- 3:58doesn't allow me to completely shut down and rest. And it's like, and I think
- 4:02that's actually half the hygiene of keeping the phone in the room. I mean, it is
- 4:07literally keeping. But nowadays, like people's phones are hooked to, I mean,
- 4:10you can't even watch a TV program because you got your phone linked to your smart
- 4:13TV and then your smart TV even shows you the notifications. And but I'm never
- 4:18going to do that on my smart TV ever, ever, never, never. But it's the phone
- 4:22notifications do it. It's the 24 hour access that people have to your lives. It's
- 4:27it is the, the, the, now we've got the commercials that play even in the middle
- 4:32of our streaming services that it's worth paying the extra three dollars a month
- 4:36to not have the commercial. It's an interruption. And again, it can, it can actually put
- 4:39you into that state. I mean, this is what I was saying before, like we have a terrible hygiene
- 4:43environment right now for sympathetic activation. And it gets all over the place. And because
- 4:48something like activation sells, if someone goes into fighter flight mode and they see something,
- 4:54and that gives them a little bit of introvert rush because they're heart beating a little bit.
- 4:57And that in turn is going to make you be more willing to remember the product
- 5:02and eventually buy the product. So sympathetic activation is all over the place.
- 5:05And it's highly incentivized for companies to use it as a methodology. It's kind of similar
- 5:10to how sex sells. But in this case, it's fighter flight sales because you know, a lot of companies
- 5:15don't be associated with, you know, the whole sex thing. And, and I mean, it's, it, it is kind
- 5:20of crazy to be honest with you. How bad it's gotten. We have some of the highest anxiety rates
- 5:26that we've ever had. And I'm not even going to say just that. The stress is the highest is
- 5:30ever been. And I would really say stress resilience is the lowest it has ever been.
- 5:36If you go back even 10 years and you talk to folks or 10, 20, 30 years, it's very clear that
- 5:41they lived in a world that was very different from what we live in today. And I grew up in this
- 5:44world, by the way, I'm a younger guy. So I, this is most of what you won't have been experiencing.
- 5:49But it's very clear that when you remove these type of stimuli, you're able to have more time
- 5:53to bring up hair sympathetic activity and strengthen that system so that when you need to go
- 5:57into sympathetic, you can do it right. But with all these stimuli in this constant overwhelm,
- 6:03which is I really think what it is, you never get a chance to strengthen that pair of sympathetic
- 6:07system. You never get a chance to train your inner laboratory. And then we get so surprised that
- 6:11most people's inner laboratories are barking at everything. Well, that's no surprise to me.
- 6:16Well, I, I, I, I'll go into traffic is busier than it's ever been in road rage and everything we
- 6:23see is you, you call a customer service line nowadays and you get barked at by the person
- 6:28on the telephone. It's like, I, I'm just calling to ask you for help on something like you're
- 6:31supposed to be the friendly person, like, you know, just we are where we're at this heightened
- 6:35level of awareness all the time. And I think for most people, there is a, there's a complete
- 6:41disconnect on, I don't even think they know how to bring it down. And in some cases, they don't
- 6:46even know that you can bring it down. And, and I think that that manifests differently for
- 6:53everybody. I've, I've, I'll, I'll say this like she's probably going to watch this episode. But
- 6:58I have an aunt that I love dearly, um, who literally has nothing like if she is in a zero stress
- 7:07situation, I say that she will find a way to be stressed out about it. And it's because here,
- 7:13and, and I'll say this, and I mean, this genuinely because the, the endorphin rush that the dopamine
- 7:20hits, as you mentioned, and this is the whole we use the word gamification because that sounds much
- 7:25kinder than dopamine addiction. Yeah. Which is what it is. No, it definitely is. It is a dopamine
- 7:32addiction that, you know, every time I, I push a button, something chimes and tells me I want,
- 7:37like, I just keep pushing the button, right? It's the slot machine type thing at the casinos.
- 7:42And the reality is is like that dopamine hit is addictive. Yes. And people get addicted to
- 7:48the dopamine. And I don't get dopamine hits in the parasympathetic state. And so you, it's,
- 7:55it's, it's simple. I would point it as simple cells, simple cells, because I mean, it's sympathetic
- 7:59state cells. If you're in sympathetic state, you're going to get that dopamine more, hit more
- 8:02often because, oh gosh, you finally did it. You did the goal. You would defy our flight. You succeeded.
- 8:08Hit. And it's it. And they bring you back to that sympathetic state to do it again. And
- 8:13it's a terrible practice that we have. So I go there to say that the sympathetic nervous
- 8:18system is addictive. Yes. I mean, being in that survival mode is addictive. And it's the,
- 8:24and for some people like someone like my aunt, who just lives worried, like, and that to me,
- 8:32like, that's weird to me. My mom was the same way. Like she was nervous about everything
- 8:37regardless of what was going on. And, but that, that nervous system state is addictive.
- 8:42And a lot of that is the dopamine rush, right? A lot of that is that same type of thing. But
- 8:49I don't think, and, and some of it is, what do I want to say? Like, they're probably low-level
- 8:54cases of dopamine addiction. But then we've got the people who are the extreme, you know,
- 8:59that the bungee jumping parachuting crowd who are the thrill seekers, which is the same thing.
- 9:05It is. It is. And it's massively curious. I would say it's not only
- 9:12sympathy addiction or sympathetic addiction. That's a problem here. It's also that once your
- 9:16nervous system learns that a state will continue your survival, it likes to adapt to that state.
- 9:21So once you're being forced into a state by trauma or drama, typically, I like using that,
- 9:25because it's usually one of those two things. It's trauma or drama that does it. Once you're
- 9:28forcing that state, if your body says, okay, this is the only way we can survive now. And hey,
- 9:32I've been doing this for the last month because we've had such a long period of trauma and drama.
- 9:37It might say, okay, well, this is clearly better. Let's continue doing this. And then it'll find
- 9:43other reasons in create trauma and drama. And this is personally, this is my fan theory
- 9:48on how type three, type four, so I'll call them type five, so lose, lose, lose. How they're built.
- 9:54It is, they've gone, I feel sad for people that get into the state because it's a terrible state
- 10:01to live in. I wouldn't, I was in a constant anxiety state for most of my childhood. I had terrible
- 10:07OCD growing up. It all will skilled me very frankly. And it's terrible not having control of your
- 10:12mind. And the whole thing, everything that drives me is liberating human consciousness wherever I
- 10:18can, because I don't want anyone else to ever experience that. It's, that's what keeps me going.
- 10:26But it's crazy because every, all the system is set up to make sure that you can't do that.
- 10:31It is set up to constantly put you into a synthetic state because if you're super anxious,
- 10:35you're more likely to watch the DV, you're more likely to watch the news, you're more likely to care
- 10:39about politics. Oh, it's bleeds. You're more likely to buy things, you're more likely to buy
- 10:42products, you're more likely to engage in our consumerized economy. And you're going to make
- 10:46some people more money. And even if that money is only a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a
- 10:49percent, it doesn't matter because it's cumulative. Because if they can do that to you and they can
- 10:54do that to three million people, that's significant revenue. And they'll continue doing that until the
- 10:58day that they're forced to stop.