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Why Men Suffer In Silence | FT Sharpen Up Podcast | EP157 · Jess Ask

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  Speaker 1: Deli rate deliate, delarate, deliate, desil rate delil right, Deli right, hey,
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  Speaker 1: desil back here, out back here out y'all. She's turning
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  Speaker 1: forty this year. Remember I told y'all that last year.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't said it and it so long, so give
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  Speaker 1: me a pass.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yes, sure, you say what? Sure?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you have to speak up because you know
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  Speaker 1: I'm not in my normal space because I guess was
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  Speaker 1: so adamant.
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  Speaker 4: Rearranged the whole city like means it's about to be amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Like who comes on somebody else podcast and tell them
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  Speaker 1: where they Okay, but it's okay.
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  Speaker 2: You know, but how you before we get into them,
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  Speaker 2: how you feeling is?
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  Speaker 5: I'm good.
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  Speaker 4: Today has been a great day.
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  Speaker 6: The week has been good, and I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 6: the upcoming week.
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  Speaker 1: Upcoming week. I mean, you're looking for your birthday. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just so excited.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we ain't we ain't there yet.
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  Speaker 1: We're not there yet, but you're gonna be for zo.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, sure, you know she's older than me. You
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  Speaker 1: guys that she's older than.
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  Speaker 6: Me because you like the so lovingly remind I do,
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  Speaker 6: because she's she's she's so beautiful, but she's old and
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  Speaker 6: we got to.
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  Speaker 1: Celebrate hers last year because she didn't want to celebrate it.
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  Speaker 2: This Oh my Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm really excited because today there's an age gap
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  Speaker 1: with our guests too. I've recently just like the age gap.
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  Speaker 2: The age gap.
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  Speaker 1: It's blessing in the egg age gap. There's anointing in
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  Speaker 1: the age gap that I'm really excited because these people
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  Speaker 1: are not only my brothers, but these guys are members
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  Speaker 1: of bg TV Studios, the network. And I'm super excited
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  Speaker 1: because I got two of them today. I got both
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  Speaker 1: for one one of them, you already met you know,
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  Speaker 1: he brings a little salt, you know, not shady, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, salt to the likes you know, this little
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  Speaker 1: scripture now. But also we have the co hosts, the
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  Speaker 1: other other half of Sharping Up Podcast. So I want
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  Speaker 1: to introduce to some and present to others my brothers,
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  Speaker 1: mister Big Salt to himself, Tyler Anderson and miss.
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  Speaker 5: Right what's up?
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  Speaker 7: What was up? Y'all?
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  Speaker 5: What's up y'all?
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  Speaker 8: What's going on?
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  Speaker 5: I love this, This is great.
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  Speaker 8: And I was the one that made her move.
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  Speaker 1: People that watched the podcast they knew that because no, black.
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  Speaker 8: Why did you to cameras? I mean, I just anyway, he's.
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  Speaker 2: One of the ones that just come and sit down.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, no, it's not your spot that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's the spot that you're accustomed to. It's the placement
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  Speaker 1: that have gotten comfortable with. Okay, but at the cross
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  Speaker 1: where burdens down, we're not.
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  Speaker 8: This is about.
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  Speaker 2: This is about to be so fun. Listen.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, these guys are on the sharpening they're
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  Speaker 1: the host of Sharping Up podcast. And I'm really excited
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  Speaker 1: because I think we're going to get into some much
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  Speaker 1: needed conversation. So I think I'm gonna start with art
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  Speaker 1: since they've heard from you, Tyland. For sure, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: start with art because art is the oldest.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, what what's the eld?
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  Speaker 2: He's out of this whole room, out of the home.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe not, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Possibly, Yeah, I know from other people
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  Speaker 1: in this room right now.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe out of four.
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  Speaker 8: So I'm happy to be forty six years old. God
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  Speaker 8: let me see. Yes, and said you're about to turn forty.
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  Speaker 8: You do not look like it. Yeah, so let's let's
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  Speaker 8: just get it out there, because supposed to be kind
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  Speaker 8: of throwing.
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  Speaker 4: Shot all the shade.
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  Speaker 2: No, because you.
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  Speaker 8: Said you're getting old, I'm like, wow.
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  Speaker 1: I just that's the that's the thing. So all right,
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  Speaker 1: so I guess I can pose this both of you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Really sharpen up derives from Proverbs twenty seven seventeen, where
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  Speaker 1: it says I don't know now our bears me like that.
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  Speaker 5: That's terrible.
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  Speaker 8: No, it's so that a brother basically sharping. I sharpened
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  Speaker 8: him as wold, and he sharpened me. Yeah. And how
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  Speaker 8: it even came about is one we had a you
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  Speaker 8: want the short version of the long version?
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  Speaker 2: What is the spirit tilling?
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  Speaker 8: You like so I give you, I gue you the
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  Speaker 8: long version. So how we even started just a part
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  Speaker 8: all together. We had a we had a men's comference
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  Speaker 8: at the church at my church, and we was a
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  Speaker 8: segment where it was a space where it had to
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  Speaker 8: be filled. So it was like, hey, Tyler, you and Art,
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  Speaker 8: we can get you guys and just talk in between.
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  Speaker 8: And during that space we had a little transition. So
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  Speaker 8: while we were talking, it was just we just flowed.
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  Speaker 8: And I actually screenshot at a picture of the video
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  Speaker 8: and it's like, look, I even posted online. I'm like,
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  Speaker 8: this may be a start or something. Well a year later,
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  Speaker 8: something it did start. We end up doing a combination
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  Speaker 8: of I Am My Brother's Keeper and the Sauda group.
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  Speaker 8: We got together and did something that was another where
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  Speaker 8: both of us on the camera at the same time
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  Speaker 8: talking and literally out of that we have conversations two
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  Speaker 8: three hours long, Yeah, on the phone where.
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  Speaker 1: I'm blame Tile on it. I'm not gonna blame you
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  Speaker 1: on it.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, it's not my fault. It's kind of a
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  Speaker 8: little both of them.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so you it's just as bad as Tyler.
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  Speaker 8: Keep going it is, yea. And from that and y'all
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  Speaker 8: don't know, Brad. It was, hey, what you think about
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  Speaker 8: doing He was talking about doing the podcast. I was
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  Speaker 8: too individually and I know me, I'm like, this is
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  Speaker 8: not gonna work. I tried. It's like, yeah, me talking
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  Speaker 8: to myself. Just yeah, I'm a social person. So I
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  Speaker 8: got with him and we kind of I don't even
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  Speaker 8: know how it even. I think it was like a
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  Speaker 8: five minute conversation. Maybe in your.
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  Speaker 2: Description he said it was started as a phone call.
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  Speaker 8: It was.
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  Speaker 7: It was all phone calls, it was. It was literally,
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  Speaker 7: so I'm a big FaceTime person. Everybody knows you are.
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  Speaker 7: I don't care nobody.
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  Speaker 5: I want to see you because I feel like we're close.
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  Speaker 8: And that was that irritated face.
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  Speaker 1: Me too.
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  Speaker 8: Irritated.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it's a generation.
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  Speaker 8: It is.
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  Speaker 7: It's a millennial baby, right, so like we you know,
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  Speaker 7: so like for me, I'm and I do the best.
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  Speaker 7: You know, we don't talk multiple times. And when I'm
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  Speaker 7: in a car and I'm talking on to somebody.
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  Speaker 5: The Lord Jesus be talking.
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  Speaker 7: And so as soon as I get excited about some
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  Speaker 7: I want to tell somebody. So Rufe was literally at
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  Speaker 7: that point in time in my life, it was rough
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  Speaker 7: that I'll talk to you consistently about what God dropped
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  Speaker 7: in me, and so from now I was like, man,
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  Speaker 7: this is and I would say, oh, man, I need
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  Speaker 7: to be recording this stuff because I'll be forgetting what
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  Speaker 7: the Lord be saying.
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  Speaker 1: So I really, I really like, I'm really glad that
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  Speaker 1: we got an understanding of how sharping Up started.
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  Speaker 2: But it really was intriguing to me.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all have a line in your intro where you say
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  Speaker 1: iron sharpens iron friends Sharpen's friend, and so I think
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  Speaker 1: that with you two not only being having the age difference.
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  Speaker 1: I know I joked about that, but I think that's
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  Speaker 1: very important to state not only the age difference, but
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  Speaker 1: this is a black man to a black man.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't a black man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a black woman. But what I have observed is
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  Speaker 1: the loyalty to or the idea of sharpening people is rare.
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  Speaker 1: It's rare, and so I think there's a level of
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  Speaker 1: humility that is required.
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  Speaker 2: How does this relationship keep you humble?
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  Speaker 8: This is good. This is a I know from from
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  Speaker 8: the time we started, he's pushed me to the point
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  Speaker 8: where even diving into my word and getting into it
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  Speaker 8: more like the more of the content part, because I
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  Speaker 8: would hang up on just a scripture, but Tyler is no,
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  Speaker 8: give me the contest, like what do they say behind that?
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  Speaker 8: What they say after that? And digging into it a
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  Speaker 8: lot more being open to him like certain stuff is
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  Speaker 8: like I ain't gonna tell that now. I'm just like, hey, bro, this, this,
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  Speaker 8: this and this, and we have grown like we literally
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  Speaker 8: by this yesterday. How just our relationship over time, like
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  Speaker 8: we have these different spots where or different relationships where
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  Speaker 8: I can tell these brother this. I know if I
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  Speaker 8: get this from him. I know I get this from him,
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  Speaker 8: And and everybody included literally is sharpened each other up.
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  Speaker 8: And he has literally pushed me to the point where
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  Speaker 8: like he'll look at me be like, all right, roll
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  Speaker 8: what you're gonna do because okay, the Lord is telling
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  Speaker 8: you this, you need to move? Yeah, And I would
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  Speaker 8: be I would, I would. I would procrastinate like I
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  Speaker 8: don't know if that's I don't know, because the fear
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  Speaker 8: of failure, of thinking that if I don't, if I
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  Speaker 8: do it, if I don't, if I do it and
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  Speaker 8: I fail, then well okay, God, then I failed you.
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  Speaker 8: So why you even try? So out of our relationship
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  Speaker 8: it's grown like I'm gonna take this chance. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 8: do it. Like even during the part, like I didn't
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  Speaker 8: think I was gonna be doing the podcast and no,
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  Speaker 8: like that's not even me, like even him face timing,
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  Speaker 8: which is my nerve, but I got I've gotten used
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  Speaker 8: to it, Like nah, I face him him, like what's
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  Speaker 8: which is crazy? And like my wife was like, what's
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  Speaker 8: going on with two grown men face himing each other.
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  Speaker 8: I'm like, it's just that's my brother. Yeah, And and
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  Speaker 8: even in that that's a stretch because like like, yeah,
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  Speaker 8: that's my that's my brother. Like somebody even asked us,
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  Speaker 8: like are we some kin I'm like, yeah, that's my brother,
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  Speaker 8: Like I ain't even go into the details, right, No,
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  Speaker 8: that's my brother.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And I've even told him some of the things that
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  Speaker 8: I've even I've given him over the time. My my
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  Speaker 8: blood brothers don't even know this and understanding the point
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  Speaker 8: of yeah, because we don't have those type of relationships yet.
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  Speaker 8: But him, Yeah, and this is in the span of
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  Speaker 8: three years. Three years.
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  Speaker 1: We overstand. We overstand because people think I've known there's
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  Speaker 1: a ray since diapers. That's how like that's how we
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  Speaker 1: act around each other. So like it's weird for us,
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  Speaker 1: like just the same idea. I like the FaceTime, I
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  Speaker 1: like the talk, I don't like all the text, and
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  Speaker 1: she like, I don't want.
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  Speaker 2: To do all it. Let's let me see your face.
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  Speaker 2: Let me let me And then it was real.
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  Speaker 1: When I asked, I said, why why can't you see
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  Speaker 1: my location? I can't see yours?
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  Speaker 2: Does a way come on camera?
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  Speaker 8: Sits?
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  Speaker 2: How did you feel?
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  Speaker 1: How did you feel when I when I asked you
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  Speaker 1: for your location?
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  Speaker 4: A little so transparency.
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  Speaker 6: I am used to just kind of doing my own
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  Speaker 6: thing right like this flowing.
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  Speaker 4: Not that I'm doing anything wrong.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just used to not really like answering to nobody
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  Speaker 6: because I'm only I'm an only kid, so it was
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  Speaker 6: just me, my mama and my Barbie dolls, and so
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  Speaker 6: I just learned to I would just do things out
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  Speaker 6: of not like you know, any count not that I
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  Speaker 6: didn't have account of I have, you know, I have
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  Speaker 6: a certain accountability, but when it comes to just regularly
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  Speaker 6: moving in life, I just I.
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  Speaker 4: Just do it.
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  Speaker 6: So when she asked me for my location, I was
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  Speaker 6: like for what, Like I'm think, like for what? But
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  Speaker 6: the Holy Spirit just gave me comfort and peace in it,
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  Speaker 6: like like that's a that's a safety thing. Not that
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  Speaker 6: there's harm in there, but that's it's safe to do.
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  Speaker 6: So you know what I'm saying. And so as I
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  Speaker 6: did it, I was like, oh, okay, this is cool.
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  Speaker 4: I I didn't know how to use it. You learn
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  Speaker 4: how to use use it.
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  Speaker 6: But I felt like it was another layer of trust
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  Speaker 6: and vulnerability that the Lord was doing in me, you
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  Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So it was weird, but you
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  Speaker 6: know it's cool whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because honestly, if I'm honest, like I didn't really
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  Speaker 1: start sharing my location because I didn't really know its
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  Speaker 1: a thing. And then my friend Stacey, she she about
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  Speaker 1: to turn fifty this year, but she don't act fifty
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  Speaker 1: like she she ate like she thought it something.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know where she coming from.
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  Speaker 1: But she you know, she taught me about the whole
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  Speaker 1: idea of like sharing location and my sister and so
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  Speaker 1: I wanted, like folks in somewhere else in the country.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm your people, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like we spend too much time together
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  Speaker 1: for me not to know you you you okay or not?
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So if I need to pop up and show them.
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  Speaker 1: I need to know what to pop up. You get
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And Soma, I'm gonna give you that
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  Speaker 1: question too, like how has Art showed you another?
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  Speaker 2: Like how has he expanded your horizon?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: So you know Washington Party, you really see any He
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  Speaker 7: says it way more than I do. He said, I'm
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  Speaker 7: the preacher man, you are, thank you, And he's he's
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  Speaker 7: basically the logical one. And so for me, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I've always been hung up on a what the words
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  Speaker 7: say we're gonna get in this word spiritually?
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  Speaker 8: Like that's just shit.
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  Speaker 5: The Bible is the Bible. That's it.
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  Speaker 7: This this all the answers we need. And I would
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  Speaker 7: sometimes forget the logical side of how can we really
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  Speaker 7: do this practically with the word at the same time,
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  Speaker 7: And so he's pushed me on that end to be like.
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  Speaker 5: All right, Tyler, like okay, slow down. We know God
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  Speaker 5: gonna work it out.
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  Speaker 7: But as he work it out, my boy, let's figure
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  Speaker 7: out some stuff, you know, because I would go zero
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  Speaker 7: to her. Look, look, look, while my wife's sitting there
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  Speaker 7: like okay, babe, what we're gonna do though, Like you know,
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  Speaker 7: and it's been moments.
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  Speaker 5: There's been times where I know it was real.
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  Speaker 7: When I call him, it's always a car situation, Jesus,
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  Speaker 7: where I literally broke down in scholars remember, just like
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  Speaker 7: we said, And I was just like, bro.
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  Speaker 5: I need to get this out.
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  Speaker 7: I don't need the I don't need no solutions, I
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  Speaker 7: don't need no scip I just need to get this out.
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  Speaker 5: Let me get it out. And he was just like
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  Speaker 5: bad at first. I voiced my voice text for first
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  Speaker 5: and he called me immediately.
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  Speaker 8: He was like, what's up?
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  Speaker 7: And I just and he listened, and it was like
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  Speaker 7: the first time ever that he was I didn't look
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  Speaker 7: at him as an older brother or or no, first
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  Speaker 7: time I didn't look at him as like a friend
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  Speaker 7: or a church member, but as a brother because he
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  Speaker 7: sat there even through the phone, and like listened and
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  Speaker 7: he didn't judge me for all the stuff that I
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  Speaker 7: was saying too, cause again I was church boy in
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  Speaker 7: this box, trying to be like I don't want everybody
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  Speaker 7: to see what was up. But when I was able
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  Speaker 7: to kind of like in my vulnerable state, transparent, my
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  Speaker 7: transparent state, I was able to kind of like kick
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  Speaker 7: that to the side just for a little bit and
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  Speaker 7: I saw him for.
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  Speaker 5: Where he needed to be in my life, and ever
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  Speaker 5: since then it.
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  Speaker 1: Was it was Tyler, give me five. That's good because
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  Speaker 1: when we don't put people in their proper role, they
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  Speaker 1: can't acknowledge their assignment and they can't perform the words.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, if I don't ever acknowledge that I'm a doctor,
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  Speaker 1: they gonna always.
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  Speaker 2: Treat me like a nurse.
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  Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying, Like I can be as
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  Speaker 1: close proximity I'm still in the hospital, but the nurses,
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  Speaker 1: the nurses and the doctors get too different, criterias different.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they real close.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think that I think that you're saying something.
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  Speaker 1: Another thing that came up to me when you were
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  Speaker 1: just talking was proverb my favor This is my favorite scripture,
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  Speaker 1: y'all provert seventeen seventeen. A brother a friend loves at
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  Speaker 1: all times, and a brother is born for adversus. And
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  Speaker 1: so I think that you don't get to experience a
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  Speaker 1: brother or a sister until adverse thing ain't with adversity.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: You don't get to say has something no use that like,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: come on, cute. But if you ain't been through nothing,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: seen me through something, you might.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Not even have to go through anything with me.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: You might have to carry me through something, you might
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: have to see me through something, but you're gonna get
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: to bro me or assist me without adversity.
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  Speaker 5: It's a cost to that, it is, man.
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  Speaker 7: Man.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: So okay, okay, So let's go.
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: So going back to how you how you circle with
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: us iron and sharp and ironing right, So.
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  Speaker 5: Again I'm the spiritual one.
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  Speaker 7: I ran through the adversity and the trials and tribulations.
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: In the beginning of us doing this pot. First people
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: couldn't people didn't see that he knew, but he was there.
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: We in the year.
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: Now we we a in season two of Sharpen Up
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: and now I'm up. He's kind of where he's at now,
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: and we're like, hey, bro, remember you was here for me.
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  Speaker 7: I got you. Let's go like and we in this together.
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: And a beautiful thing, man. And the beautiful thing about
• 19:07
  Speaker 7: this us doing a pot together, And we said all
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: the time on the pot and off the pot, is
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: that the things that we've been saying on this table,
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: on these oily mics as we call them, literally, has
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: paved a way for not just our friendships, but been
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: speaking into our lives too. So when the situation when
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: him came up, it was just like, hey, bro, let's
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: go back to that part that we talked about about
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: this situation and let's go and hey.
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: We got it.
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: So when he felt some type of way about something,
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: I was like, hey, bro, this is what I went through,
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: and I'm so glad you don't look like this, don't
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: feel like this, because immediately you could have went slap off.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: On these folks for being like this.
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: And you literally was like, you know what, I'm chilled,
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: I'm cool, and I'm asking questions like are you straight
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: sure you couldn't like you? I got, I got peace
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: And he referred back to the body as we talked about.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: About.
• 20:05
  Speaker 7: So it's just like, it's beautiful to see that this
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: is not just a quote unquote work relationship.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I see it with y'all. It's not a work relationship.
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: And we're going to we're going to go eat, we're
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: going to go hang out with all of these and
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: and there's a level of discipleship in it too, which
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: I love too. It's not just you just not my brother,
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: You're not just my friend. We still hanging out stuff
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: like that. Work no no, no, like there's a level
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: of decide. You hold me not just accountable because you
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: my brother in Christ, but no, like you want me
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: to grow more in him too.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: And it's on both men as.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: My response, because if I don't take it as my responsibility,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: that don't really mean I don't care. I don't make
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: room man for you to be the better version of you.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I am better because there's a reason my life.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Come on now, I am great because.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: It raised in my life. People wonder why, like you,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: when you see me, you see her for a reason.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: You KNOWE know what I'm saying, Like this girl can
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: speak on my behalf like I trust her. I told
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: her update I said, I trust you with my life. Wow,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: if there was a life or death decision, I trust
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: you with my life. And I can't say that about it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: And I don't mean it's no look, no shame, no harm,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: no foul. You get what I'm saying.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: But that's my truth because I'm literally walking nicked in
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: this relationship. Can we talk about walking nicked and the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: fear of walking nicked and being vulnerable in spaces where
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: because you can't I don't know if you can sharpen
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: somebody like that. If they're not exposing them.
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: You cannot. That's impossible for you to sharpen anybody if
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: they're not exposed, it's impossible. That's the whole point of
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: being vulnerable. I can see the trans I can see
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: the vulnerability is okay, I see the issue. Okay it
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: But we talked about this on the part. All right,
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: this the transparency is all right, you can you can
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: see all this stuff. But if I don't let you
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: in that room to see, now, hey man, this these
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: a my issues right here, and you can walk in
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: and see him like, okay, he got some fear right here.
• 22:16
  Speaker 8: He got some unforgiveness right there. So okay, now I
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: know what to work with. As long as I got
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: you can, I can put on this wall of Hey bro,
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: I'm good. You're lying. You're lying. It's if you want
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: me to be your brother, you gotta be nicking in
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: front of me. You're gonna be my sister. You gotta
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: be nicking in front of me. Here's a great thing.
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: See this is so let me, let me let me
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: because the lawy had been already been like so we
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: did we did, uh, you know, we do the the
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: prayer for the fire dume. So during that time frame,
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: you know, we're praying and the Lord, the Lord brought
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: brought up to me standing in the gap. I'm like,
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: all right, okay, Lord, So I'm now I'm praying, like, okay,
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: stay in the gap, all right. Bet. Then I look up.
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: I'm like, well, let me look this up. So you know,
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: you get childa know me. I look up words. So
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: when I look up words and I go through the words,
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: he look up the words to tie it back. We
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: just that's just how we flows. And he got me on.
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: Of course I read the chapter Easy to Go twenty
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: chapter twenty two about us standing in the gap, so
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: these I, of course you know us and Chat. I
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: was like, all right, what is gap filler? So Chat
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: knows me. Now, if you're gonna give me your word,
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: you better give me some scription. So it always does
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: that so I can reference back. So I look at
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: all of us. So this is the thing. So gap feelers,
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: all right. The reason they matter depending on the contests,
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: but the core idea is the same. They prevent weakness, instability,
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: or misunderstanding. I remember looking at your part and the
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: young lady she would see her last year you spoke
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: a word in her in her life about moving. She
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: moved to Texas. Yeah, so in that you was in
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: that moment. You were standing in the gap for her.
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: So we have things in our lives that we One
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: is a blessing to be to be in the gap
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: because God, he kind of he looks at us as this.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: He loves us first and secondly, it is a privilege
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: to be standing in the gap for someone. I would
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: tell her, my daughter this morning a little bit about him,
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: like you have to be the one. You have to
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: be the friend that you see you're free and going
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: through something. You're the one that need to be praying
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: for him because you don't know what they're going through
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: or what they'll have to face. But if you're standing
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: in the gap and praying for him and encourage them,
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  Speaker 8: even though that thing may come, they might not die,
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: they might not crumble because you're standing in that gap where. Okay, God,
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: I know she got these issues. Lord work on the heart. Yeah,
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: Lord's softened her heart. You see me talking to a
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: Lord week. But all of us play a part. You
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: desert like I've seen, like y'all, how y'all moved, what
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: you've done over the years, now just on your part
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: completely and in your personal lives. We've seen your story
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: like all of us have our stories. But if Tyler
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: didn't do what he was doing, me and him will
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: have never crossed paths.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: It's so good.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: You just said somebody gap and I just I just
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: saw something visually right. Even I think people have a
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: problem with being a gap filler because the gap feeling
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: gets hit.
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: That's the fact they get.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: They get hit.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: But the beutiful thing I heard the hole experience say,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: although you get hit, you don't. You might, you might
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: even get knocked down, but you're able to get back up.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: If they get hit, they go, they go to death,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: they die. So you're preventing death. You're literally saying the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: what you just said, You're preventing the swings from taking
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: them out for the account. And if we don't get,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: if we get, if we're afraid to be hit, if
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: we're afraid of a one to two, you get what
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And the Lord has given us strength and
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: provided us stamina Hallelujah Salm enough to stand.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: That's grace. We're talking about the grace of God.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: I have the grace to fill up the gap I
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: am grace to fill up the gap. I'm grace to
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: prophesy and be looked at crazy, but then it comes.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Out the next year. I am grace for this.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: And so when we think about being a gap filler
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: for each other, there's times what does a race?
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I know the Lord has taken her through there on
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: my behalf.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I think also the importance of being a gap filler
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: for each other is knowing that not only does prayer
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: is needed, but fasting together is needed. That's something that
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: does aray in our experience. We'll be by ourselves and
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the Lord dealing with us on the same thing, and
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: because we share, it's like, hey, I think the Lord
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: has asked me this girl. The girl just the Lord
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: just asked me to do this. Now we know we
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: ain't got to do it by ourself. We're thinking the
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Lord trying to take us in the note when Noah's
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: doing building the art, he said, hey, take two of everything.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: It's like, bring two of everything because I'm shifting something
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and you can't. It can't go by itself. And so
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: when we try to do life alone, it frustrates the
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: cycle of God because he never meant for us to
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: do it. Alone, and so I think that what's so
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: beautiful about y'all's relationship is that the the even how
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you said, if you can't be my brother without being naked,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: most men would have said polls first you, Paul, what
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: do you think is missing? Or what's the disconnect in
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: that in friendship and brotherhood like y'all with with culture,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Like what are y'all experienced and how can we as
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: women even help that dynamic.
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: Maturity bit, this mature like you said, like you just
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: said that, And I honestly ain't think about it, because
• 28:23
  Speaker 7: typically I think about it and be like dang, Like
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: typically somebody say possible, I really ain't. I didn't think
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: about it.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: But that's just shit. This maturity I was with.
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: I was just with my other guys, my other homies
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: and stuff like that. At Olive Gardner, we haven't we
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: haven't sat around the table and like gotten together for
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: like for almost two years, like all of us, literally everybody,
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: because everybody's either out of town or doing this is
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: where ministry stuff whatever. And we finally sat down and
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: we said some stuff that was probably possible, yeah, but
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: it ain't. Nobody said nothing when three years ago we
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: would have been like, Bro, that's wild. Even though we
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: haven't been around each other, we still grew mature immaturity.
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: So I think that's one of the biggest things too.
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: And also we call each other.
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: Out like we call.
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: Each other out like and every every every guy that
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: I deem as a friend or even even the people
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: that I'm mentating and then I'm discipling and stuff like that.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Like they know I'm gonna call hey, bro, I'm gonna
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: call you all on your stuff.
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: You're talking to your girls South Hey, And I'm gonna
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: say why you buy it.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: With your girl?
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: Hey, bro?
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: What you doing?
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: Like if it's too crazy, I'm all right, all right,
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: let me I talk to you on the side because
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: I don't want her to look at you like you
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: are punk and nothing like I got you. But it's
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: just this little stuff like that. I think that's what
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: we're missing. We don't have a lot of men that's
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: standing up and saying what they need to say in
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: those right moments.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: So of course, like we've.
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: Heard the whole you know, men having black men having
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: stuff and say anything about black women and stuff like
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: that too, right, Like that's that's been an go chamber
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: for a for a while now, Well, it's because men
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: just don't know how to stand up and say anything
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: about these stuff.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Why do you think that is, though, Like what's the
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: cultural norm of that and what do you what do
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: you think that has them stimulated to keep that cycle going.
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: It's it's literally a again, I feel like it's a
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: I feel like it's a lack of immaturity.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: I mean lack of maturity.
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: We've been around this tough culture for a long period
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: of time. And also we've done talked talked about this before.
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: And also the lack of the black man just being
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: present in the household period, not not even if it's
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: emotionally or like, just him not being there period has
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: stripped away a lot of foundational things of what a
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: man possibly look like because because the emotional man, a
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: lack of emotional man could also be a hard worker
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: and were missing out on that piece or he not
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: a hard worker, but he know how to do certain
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: things whatever in the house. And we see that like
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: it's there's he's gone. The masculine, the masculinity is gone.
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: And so now the younger men that's that's getting raised
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: up now are weaker mentally sometimes spiritually and sometimes physically.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: And so now we have.
• 31:18
  Speaker 7: Gone to a place where there's a lot of men
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: that's out there that have grown up in a society
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: where am I gonna do whatever I want to do
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: with no consequences. If I do get consequences, I know
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: how to bounce back from them by myself.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: But they don't.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: They fail to realize it is just like you just said,
• 31:35
  Speaker 7: I need to have somebody or a team with me
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: or to get out of certain situations. And then, of course,
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: you know my route. The church ain't talking about it,
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: you know, me, the we as the body is not
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: talking about it.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: The locals, the local church is not talking about it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: We as individual talking about it.
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: And if we do talk about it, we getting we
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: getting put up on the cross, you know, we we
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: getting shot in the face by trying to stand up
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: what's right when it comes to even our culture by itself.
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: And so there's a lot of people that's also scared
• 32:10
  Speaker 7: to be negati in front of people. When Jesus was
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: on the cross, neked in front of everybody. So if
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: I'm trying to be just like him, I need to
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: be I need to be up there neked in front
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: of in front of everybody crucified.
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: That's the key, you know what I'm saying, That is
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: the key.
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: So I think I really believe like that's that's that's it.
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: We're missing those big pieces. And so I'm glad being
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: that I'm being around people that have the mentality of Okay,
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: when I have my sons, when I have my daughters,
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: when I have you know, these people are doing certain things,
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell them about this. I'm showing them this
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: even if I don't open my mouth. I'm walking in
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: a way that I should because of who God's called
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: me to be literally and also of how I'm supposed
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: to be the example for everybody else. Yeah, And so
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: I'm glad to be linked up with those people because
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: if not, I would feel like I'm by myself when
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: I know I'm not, but I would feel personally that
• 33:13
  Speaker 7: I'm by myself. And now I feel like I got
• 33:16
  Speaker 7: to take on the whole entire world when I don't.
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: And that's another piece that.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: We're listening to is community. You know, you're talking really good.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I want to touch on a point that you brought up,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: because the Lord is really I've been thinking about this
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: and I want to ask you guys directly, So we
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: talk about the relationship with black men, specifically with each other,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: but the relationship with from the black man to the church,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: it seems like there's a greater opportunity as well. And
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I feel lad to lean on
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: you for this, because it seems like your relationship with
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: God is still growing and you're still learning yourself and
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: what it looks like for you. Can you give us
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: like a background of like how you even got to
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the point of agree you meant.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: With the Lord?
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: Okay, so from years past, you know, I grew up
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: in what we consider your traditional church, and that was
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: that was ground, that was that was my foundation. I
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: was it was foundation that was laid, My family was
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: at the church. All of that. My pastor ended up dying,
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: so there was this disconnect, like, okay, God, and this
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: was early on in my marriage, so this is like
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: two well no, this was four four years into my marriage.
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: I'm like, Okay, my pastor that I've known him since
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: I was small, so now he's gone. And then his wife,
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: which is actually my blood my auntie by marriage. Now
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: she's standing up there and she's preaching. But I don't
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: know what to feel, like how I'm supposed to. I'm
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: trying to lead my family, but I'm kind of just
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: going through the motions. So when I end up making
• 35:07
  Speaker 8: a decision that okay, it's time for us to go
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: and I went to rebirth, it was like, okay, what
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: am I doing here? It's this right? Because I was
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: even making a decision to even make the move to
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: do the move, I was still questioning God, like God,
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: this is the right move because all I kept thinking
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: is okay, well if it's the wrong decision, you know,
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: did I put my kids in the right in the
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: right environment. So all these things I'm I'm lightweight, beating
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: myself up, and it's like, okay, God, you need to
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: tell me some because I'm just you know, in the
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: blind in a sense. And God just confirmed it to
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: me like, no, that's your you where I told you
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: to be, got it. So even in that God was
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: just working on my heart. Now I done got to
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: the point where God has He's taking my heart and
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: it was like, okay, even as a man, I've always
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: been about marriage, always been about me. And like I
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: look at my old posts from like nine, It's like
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: I was saying this stuff then and then really realize
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: it until now I'm was like, oh, I've always talked
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: about men, about us being in agreement with what the
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: Lord says and how we should walk, how we should
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: stand walking in integrity, having character. I've been saying this,
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: So now I got to the point where which it
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: seemed like it's crazy we society talks about like, oh,
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: it's you know the man. We really get to that
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: point when we hit our forties and it's just like, okay,
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: this is it. Because I was still kind of like,
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: I don't know if I should do this again. Like
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: I said at the beginning, it was like do I
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: take this chance? If I failed then with But then
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: I tried it anyway. I did certain things. Okay, it
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: didn't work out. Cool, I tried it again, and the
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: Lord put on my heart to do I am my
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: brother's keeper. It was just like, all right, this is
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: we're supposed to be doing. And then in the midst
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: of that, my dad dies. So I'm like, oh, I'm done,
• 37:06
  Speaker 8: like and we're at the end, like and did this
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: for six weeks. Okay, I'm good. And the guys was like, no, bro,
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: we need to keep this going. When we're gonna have
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: another one, I'm just like, man, my dad just damn,
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: I ain't stunting. Yeah, they were still knocking at the door,
• 37:21
  Speaker 8: and it was like the Lord was like, no, keep going.
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: So I'm I'm leading while I'm hurting, yeah, crying, going
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: through and it's just like all right, I'm gonna do it. Okay, Lord,
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: what you told me to dude, I'm now I'm doing
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: that and I'm in therapy trying to figure out. Oh okay,
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: that really helped. It's like, Okay, this is the reason
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: why I say this stuff. Yeah, you know, this is
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: the reason why I moved like certain things. Even in
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: my marriage. Was like, hey, this is the reason why
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: I shut down because in my teenage years I had
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: this issue with my dad and we used to bump
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: head cause I was I was again, I was in
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: the game. I was a crypt so he knew I
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: was doing stuff. So we were bup heads in a
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: bad way. So for me to deal with it, I
• 38:05
  Speaker 8: would automatically shut down. So I brought that into my
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: marriage and didn't even know it. So me and my
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: wife had conflict. Ir Bet, and you let it.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: You just let it run.
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: I'm good, go to bed everything and know the word,
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: don't go to work, don't go to bed angry Jesus,
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: I see you in the morning. Yeah, well, I mean
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: see you a couple of days. We we uh, we'll operate.
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: We all function like, okay at the household, blah blah blah.
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: But getting something out of my heart, y'all, you're not
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: gonna get that now.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: So what I'm hearing you say is that there was
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: an understanding of God, but no application.
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: No, okay, keep going, No, she's running.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm just yeah, So my goodness.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I think even with you bringing up that you were
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: a former cryp and you've renounced and announced that that lifestyle.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, correct. I just want to be clear because you know.
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah, wearing blue.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: For real, that's why you always wearing black black shirt.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: About are we still just trying to make I love y'all,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: just trying to make we're good. We're good, We're trying
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: to go down there's but no, I think that there's
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: a correlation because that's a reason why men go to.
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: The spirit.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: There's a reason why men go.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: To organizations, and not just game related organizations. You have uh,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: eternities that that that offer that same sense of reverence
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: and brotherhood to where you don't think that you you
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: know God and you think this is the reason why
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: God is attaching you to this so you won't feel alone.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: And now when I I'm exposed, I'm exposed to a
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: people that can judge me. Right, there's not really judgment
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and these other opportunities, but there's judgment, righteous judgment at that.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: And what that what the word is.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: And that men does have talked about recently is conviction, right,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: and so what does that relate your relationship with conviction
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: look like now versus then.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: Some good stuff?
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: So it's good stuff, walking in his walking in for
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: this season in my life, walking in his peace that
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: passes my understanding, leaning on his word even the more,
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: trusting in trusting, trusting in God to the point where
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: I'll listen to this song on the way here, like
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: getting not the boat and not looking.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Back for the option.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Because when we keep things as options, thank you, Holy Spirit.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: When we keep things as options and we don't if
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: the Lord, the Lord showed me this with other stuff,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not released to say it right now, but with
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: other other things, okay, there there's separation and there's divorce,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: and there's a thin line between both, right, you could
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: be separated in a space to where it's like, Okay,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: well I don't do that anymore. I don't I don't
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: claim this anymore. I'm not like this anymore. But you
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: have not divorced the covenant that you made with the thing,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and that's the vorce allows you not a way. You
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: can look back, but ain't nothing back there. You get
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, there is there is a way.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: That's why being renouncing and denouncing where you were were
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: at is so important because you don't need anything to
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: go back to.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: You don't need that option. You only need one option.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: And I don't even know why I'm saying that right now,
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna trust the Lord. It's like the
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: fear of releasing your old the old version of you.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: But the old version you still it was still things
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: that God was trying to thank you, Holy Spirit, nurture
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: the nurture, but the enemy was able to play with
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: the tools of the Lord. Right, and so it's like, Okay,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play with here, but this is thank you,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Holy Spirit. I hear the Lord saying that this is
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: how I used to being used right, but not knowing
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: that the tool can be used another way. On the
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: other side of a hammer, the other side of a hammer.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: You have one side that hammers and then the other
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: side that pulls nails out. And we gotta realize what
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: season the Lord is you, what side of the tool
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: the Lord is using. That's why you can talk about
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: iron shoppers iron. There's a double edged swore. So on
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: one side we got art. On the other side we
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: got Tyler. And understanding that watch this art. You are
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: still valuable with your side, Jesus, you are still valuable
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: with your side. And there's no there is hmm, Lord Jesus, Okay,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: there is no way, there is no way possible that
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: God would trust you with a Tyler if you weren't ready,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: if you weren't ready to grow, if you weren't ready
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: to build, because the same tactics that you used, and
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: if you built up as a crip, it's the same
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: thing that Tyler needs.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Tyler, Tyler, Tyler. I love Tyler, but Tyler ain't art. Tyler,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Tyler ain't art. The world needs art.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: The world needs the book, the world needs the music,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the world needs the sound.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: From Art.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Ain't no getting that from Tyler, And I think that's
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: where the Lord is really trying to get us to understand.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a man thing, but
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I know as women, you know I've been. I've been
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: in the trap of comparison, right. The trap of comparison
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: will keep you to the point where it's like, well
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: what I give is not enough. Me and Desi Ray
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: have a business together, and I just told Desirey. I said, Desiree,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm not doing anything. We sat there
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: at that bank and I told her I was like, well,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: a potential client. I had like a consultation with her,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: and I told her the conversation is yeah. She said, see,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I could never do that. I need you to stop
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: saying you ain't doing nothing, because that's hard for me.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know who needs to hear this today, but
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: that part is hard for me. I could never do
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: what you did. Tyler, could never do what Art does.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm here, but I know I'm somewhere.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: You guys gotta trust the Holy spirits. That's it, and
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: so that the little aunts in you that still doubts
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: the relationship God ordained because he ain't just saying, oh,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: you get to have Tyler man.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: He said, Tyler get to have.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: A man, Tyler get the experience man, Tyler gets to
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: embrace you. Tyler gets to learn from you, because you
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: got some years on.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Tyler's stuff that Tyler still.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Ain't experienced you as all as he is. There's wisdom
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: in their structure.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Is there's a new level.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: There are people that are called to your to your sound,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: that he will never be able to reach.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Never.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: And when we get to an understanding that it takes
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: two babies, I love the Lord. When we get to
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: an understanding that it takes two baby, you realize that
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: you you are, You are one hundred percent and he's
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: one hundred.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: But when y'all come to.
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: Man, man, what we always say, bro is us come
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: on man, that is our mantra is not about it.
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: We won't got time for that. We don't got time
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: to be selfish, especially now. I don't I don't understand
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: why folks don't well, I do know why, but I'm
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: gonna just go ahead. I don't know why folks don't understand,
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: especially us and nobody of Christ don't understand the times
• 46:30
  Speaker 7: that we're in right now. It bothers me because I'm like, literally,
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: God is showing us what's happening, what's going on, and
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: we are we're not even taking up on this offer
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: while he's giving us time, giving us the grace to
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: be like, hey, hey, I need for you to.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: Team up right now.
• 46:47
  Speaker 7: You cannot be isolated in this moment right now, because
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: eventually what's gonna happen is those doors of community is
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: about to shut and I need these folks. I need
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: you to get in community because you're gonna be isolated
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: on this island by yourself, and you're not gonna have
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: the resources.
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: You're not gonna have the thought process.
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: You you the Bible may be gone in a couple
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: of years, and because your memory may not be that good,
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: you need somebody else to be with that know the
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: word a little bit more than you do so you
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: can sus say yourself like like, we're missing out on that.
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: And it's bothering me again because I'm a big community guy.
• 47:32
  Speaker 8: Y'all know me very well.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: I love relationships.
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: I love all of this stuff because I know what
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: God has brought me through through communities. I eat us
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: like us three. This is huge for me by itself,
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: Like this is blessing me by itself because of.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: How we all got together, everybody in this room.
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: So like, if we do this by ourselves, we're isolated
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: to the point where the enemy not just to text
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: us even while we're in community, but by ourselves too.
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: And when he comes, he's not coming just to play
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: in our face. He's coming to destroy. Yeah, literally, and
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: I'm tired of being destroyed by myself. I'd rather fight
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: with some people behind me, Like, I need some folks
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: to fight with me, because he's coming anyway. We know
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: the scripture. He comes to Still, kill and destroyed. Okay,
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: So if he's coming to Still and I got a
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: team with me, Hey man, I may be beat up,
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: I may be messed up. I may come out with
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: broken bones, but hey, I'm living and my team here
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: with me, and we still got the victory because.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: He gonna be gone.
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: He may come back, but I got a team with me,
• 48:35
  Speaker 7: but I'm by myself. It's oh okay, holy spy, hear you.
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: It's harder for me to heal when I'm by myself. List,
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: it's so hard to heal by my I can't go.
• 48:47
  Speaker 7: I can't go to the bathroom.
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: I can't. I can't nurse on my own wounds. I can't.
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: I can't do anything.
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: I can't eat, I can't do nothing if I'm by myself.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: But I can call.
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: Hey, Jazz, Hey, Rov, can you bring that for me?
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: Real quick? Hey? Hey, can you can you come pick
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: me up? I get I gotta go somewhere. All of
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: these I have people I can but if.
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: I'm isolated, I have to fend for myself. And when
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: I find for myself, sometimes I can't make the move.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: So now I'm just sitting there. I got this image
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: of the hospital, y'all. Don't mean I'm very vivid.
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: I'm just sitting there in my own stuff, helpless, And
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: even if I have the urgency to call somebody, I
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: haven't built the people around me. So now I'm just
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: calling that an empty vessel that can't even come my way.
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: I can't call on nobody, So I'm just I'm just here, stuck,
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: and now I have to just rely on the Lord
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: to make it work.
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: And we get to a place.
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: I'm sick and tired of us as believers get into
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: a place where we just have to call on the Lord.
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: When God is calling us to build this thing up together,
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: and we're calling on him while he's sending folks at
• 50:04
  Speaker 7: the same time. Okay, I'm about to go Biblical Jesus
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: at his weakest moment, at the gardener gast Semity, he
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: was like, hey, man, I don't want to do this.
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: Let this cup pass me.
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: And when he came to the real you know what,
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: but not my wheel but your will. The Bible says.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: What does it say that the angels.
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: Came down to give him strength?
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: Oh?
• 50:26
  Speaker 7: Okay, that's that's just that's just that part that's right
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: before he went to the cross.
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: There's another piece of that.
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: Just he got out out of the wilderness forty days,
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: forty nights after the Holy Spirit came down in this
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: indin them, right, all those beautiful things that happened.
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: Now he went to the went to the wilderness. Then
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: the enemy tempted them. All those beautiful things. Now my
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: Bible says something else is say.
• 50:48
  Speaker 7: It says that the angels came down again to feed
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: him and to give them strength. And that's what started
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: his ministry for three more years.
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: We need people.
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: For our ministry, for our purpose, for our lives. If
• 51:08
  Speaker 7: we don't do this together. Then we're isolated. We're doing this.
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: We're honestly, if we be real, we're doing this in vain.
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: How how could desiate get the business launch? How could
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: how how could your beautiful path, this beautiful platform be
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: beautiful if it wasn't for the help of desert like
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: you see what I'm saying, like even with David, like
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: the same things, like you, we need people to help us,
• 51:32
  Speaker 7: to propel us to exactly what God called us to be.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Gap Fellers, Listen, we didn't heard about this gap a
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: couple of times. But all right, friend, I think Jesus,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I think that is so important to hear this from
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: you guys and see this from you guys, because this
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: is not our normal, right, this is not the normal atmosphere.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I've been seeing it with different people, like in the.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Marketplace, and they understand it.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: In the marketplace. I was telling I was telling you
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: know somebody or I thro on my TikTok that you
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: got Chris Brown and Usher Raymond doing a whole two
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: milly together and they don't need each other, No they don't,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: but they still see a gap. They still see a
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: gap that they can feel. They said, you know what,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: instead of trying to play this game. Let's let's feel
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: this gap together. You get what I'm saying. They don't
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: in our eyes, they don't need So if they can
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: get it, why can't we get it?
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Because we think that the Lord gives us something.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: No, he gave no other vision, but he also told hey,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: bring your family along, and then you pass it along.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: It says, right, the vision, make it playing so that
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: they can run with it, right, And so I need
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: somebody to be able to run with my vision.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: When I'm not around.
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: There's a ray goes, oh, I think you'll be good
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: for the.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: Never met him in my life, but she understands the vision.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: You get what I'm saying.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I need somebody else, not just so, but when I die,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: that's what we wait for. I can't wait till I
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: pass away for somebody to run with. And so we
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: keep we keep limiting ourselves. Oh my gosh, both of y'all,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Jesus myself. He knew he was doing because I was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be. I feel like I'm talking too much today, Lord,
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  Speaker 1: but I think this is so important.
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  Speaker 2: To see this.
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  Speaker 1: That's where I want to I want to hear from
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  Speaker 1: you because we could go for two hours.
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  Speaker 2: We could go for two hours.
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  Speaker 6: You know, this has been very good to my whole
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  Speaker 6: soul one because to see men, but black men who
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  Speaker 6: are very open about their relationship with the Lord but
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  Speaker 6: also with each other. I think it's a beautiful thing
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  Speaker 6: and kind of like how we talked about before, it's needed.
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  Speaker 6: But also and to see this picture of what kingdom
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  Speaker 6: work looks like. You know, even if you if you
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  Speaker 6: think about the apostles in the in the Bible, he
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  Speaker 6: sent them out by twos, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: There were times where there were more of them, but
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  Speaker 6: at the end of the day that he sent them
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  Speaker 6: out the two of them with an assignment.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And so we're.
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  Speaker 6: Sitting here in a room full of podcasters, right, we're
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  Speaker 6: in this new age, this new technology of media, which
• 54:32
  Speaker 6: is another way of getting the Gospel out, you know
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So to see you guys' relationship build,
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: I think it's just another beautiful picture that one there
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  Speaker 6: are you can do relationship with men. You know two
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  Speaker 6: that you can do it in the name of the Kingdom,
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  Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Like, you know, you had
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  Speaker 6: another brotherhood that you had going on, but now we're
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  Speaker 6: attached to kingdom work, and it just looks different, right,
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  Speaker 6: It looks different from what the world would say relationship
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  Speaker 6: looks like. So this is blessed me because if I'm honest,
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  Speaker 6: I've had I have some long, long term friends that
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  Speaker 6: I've been connected with for years, right, I think my
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: oldest the oldest friend that I have, we've been friends
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  Speaker 6: since like second grade, we're talking about seventh grade. But
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: it scared me when I got connected with Jessica because
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  Speaker 6: I knew in my spirit it was different, and it
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: was something that I had not quite fully experienced before
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  Speaker 6: with my allowing myself to be completely open and vulnerable
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  Speaker 6: with somebody. Keep in mind, I'm used to kind of
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: processing and keeping things to myself, and so it took
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  Speaker 6: a minute for me to be okay with that. Like
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: we were cool and we were starting to build, but
• 55:49
  Speaker 6: I was still like, what is girl?
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  Speaker 8: Like what is wrong with her?
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  Speaker 4: Like why she asked me? Like why she did all men?
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  Speaker 4: And the honest thing. But when she asked me for
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: her location.
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  Speaker 6: That's why the location thing was big for me, yea,
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  Speaker 6: because when she said that I had a choice to
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  Speaker 6: fully surrender, that was to me that was like my
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: fully surrendered moment, even though it's just sharing your location.
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  Speaker 6: But it's like, okay, Lord, if you really, if this
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  Speaker 6: is really you putting this relationship together, let me fully
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  Speaker 6: submit to it.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 6: And so since then we've been able to really come
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  Speaker 6: together and and walk these things out that the Lord
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: have us to do together. Like there's still some things,
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  Speaker 6: there's still things that we're gonna we do individually, course,
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  Speaker 6: but there's an assignment that's meant for the two of us,
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  Speaker 6: the two of you, like he's putting, he's putting pairs
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  Speaker 6: and partnerships and collaborations together for the Kingdom. And you
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  Speaker 6: just have to we have to be healed enough. We
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: have to be healed enough to receive that partnership. So
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  Speaker 6: this is this is blessed my.
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  Speaker 4: Whole little soul.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, guy, and I appreciate.
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  Speaker 4: You guys for coming on today.
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  Speaker 2: That's so good.
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  Speaker 1: As a right, what the Lord just told me was
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  Speaker 1: if we couldn't if you couldn't share your location with me,
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  Speaker 1: we couldn't open account together.
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  Speaker 7: Man.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, Like we just opened up business accounting. I
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: literally trusted Desert Ray like she one of her responsibilities
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: business management. That is not my lane, that accounting and normal.
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  Speaker 2: Bless the Lord on my soul for.
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  Speaker 1: You.
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  Speaker 8: Just it's like me like hey, and Tyler be like
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  Speaker 8: all right.
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  Speaker 1: Bet yeah, systems and structure, that's all my girl. And
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: but we couldn't the Lord couldn't open the door for
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: this space because we would have just been wondering. We've
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: gotten prophetic words about how much money we're gonna make twogether,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. But in the small details
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: of the Lord, he will challenge you with things like
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  Speaker 1: share your location with Jessica. You know what I'm saying. Hey,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: go tell Desi Rae that this man is trying to
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: talk to you and he's married. We don't want to
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: want to have to com say and he's trying to
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: talk to you, and you just need to let her know. Hey,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: you've done You've done what you're supposed to do, but
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: you need to let somebody know because secrecy kept you,
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  Speaker 1: kept you time.
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  Speaker 2: So go tell go telling. You get what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So people think that they get the pretty side of
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  Speaker 1: the partnership.
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  Speaker 2: But what are you willing to do to manage the partnership?
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: And so you know, as a tradition.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Both of y'all know, it's a tradition that we leave
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: space for our guests to just talk, just leave their
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: final thoughts. And so I'm gonna start with you because
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: I know you're gonna probably try to bring scripture and
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: praying on. I don't know where you're gonna do, so
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: we'll start.
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  Speaker 2: We'll start with you at.
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  Speaker 1: Your final Ah.
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  Speaker 8: Wow. Learning to be unselfish is I would say that's
• 58:41
  Speaker 8: one of the things that I would say, lean on
• 58:43
  Speaker 8: because of what you just said. There's no you are
• 58:47
  Speaker 8: selfish if you win, if you didn't, not even not
• 58:51
  Speaker 8: her even giving the location, but you even asking. Because
• 58:56
  Speaker 8: it's a different level. Now we're having to we're in
• 59:00
  Speaker 8: the twine and the things that we have together can't
• 59:05
  Speaker 8: move unless we're unselfish. So let's walk in that because
• 59:14
  Speaker 8: walking together, both of us are getting out of the boat.
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: I can't get out the boat if Tyler ain't with me,
• 59:22
  Speaker 8: So that goes for all of us. You can't get
• 59:24
  Speaker 8: out of the boat unless there's a railer with you.
• 59:27
  Speaker 8: Like that's it's impossible. So these things, these partnerships that
• 59:33
  Speaker 8: the we can't do this thing by ourself, all of
• 59:36
  Speaker 8: where that's the reason why we're here now, the relationships
• 59:40
  Speaker 8: we have with each other. I would have never met
• 59:42
  Speaker 8: jess if I didn't have talent in my life. Like
• 59:48
  Speaker 8: I look at it, well, like just being for real, Like,
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: hey man, Jessica a superstar. I'm trying to get on
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  Speaker 8: Jessica Prime. That's why I was like, Hey, I'm about
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 8: to go. I tell my daughter. I was like, I'm
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 8: going on Justica. She was like, I'm like, yeah, you
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 8: know what. I mean, what you're talking about made it.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 8: But that's how I looked at it. It was like, wow, Lord,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 8: you've brought me this far. But it didn't it. Arthur
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 8: didn't do this. The relationship I've built with him, he
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 8: came into my life, and then now out of that,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 8: all of this has transpired within a short amount of time,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 8: and it's like, Lord, whoa what you doing? But partnership,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 8: being unselfish, walking in integrity, having the endurance to go
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 8: through things. Yeah, it's gonna hurt. Yeah, you're gonna feel
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 8: like giving up Tyler. No, I mean to see, I mean,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 8: I don't like it, bro I don't And I'm like,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 8: let me called everybody. I feel like this this morning
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 8: and now having the him reminded me of the hope
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 8: we're walking. We have the hope that you know what, Yeah,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 8: it's gonna it's gonna sting, But out of that my
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 8: character is being m hm, that's good. It's being built.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, y'all, y'all get your.
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  Speaker 5: Off, close the doors?
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 8: What stop? Locked the doors?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 7: No, man, we don't say that all though. Community is
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 7: the is the best thing. And y'all know me very well,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 7: I'm a huge on communitian. So if we're walking together,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: we gotta walk together.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 8: And that ship.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 7: God has ordained certain people to be putting put side
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 7: by side together, a certain people, you know, just from
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 7: a distance, some people temporarily, all of those things. But
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 7: the reason why he do it because we're not meant
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 7: to walk this life alone.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: And that's just it.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 7: And so we just gotta make sure that we are
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 7: listening to Him for every connection that we can make,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 7: not just for self gain, but for kingdom.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 8: Ship. That's so good, and that's just it.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: That's so good. He kept it light because we talked
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: about him. But y'all, I really appreciate you guys for
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: being here. I didn't know how this was gonna go
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: but God did, and I'm so glad it went the
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: way it went.
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  Speaker 2: You guys.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of community, we have a safe space community that
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: meets every Monday. Okay, it's only nineteen dollars a month. Okay,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: you meet, we celebrate things or do things on Patreon,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: but we get on Zoom and we get really intimate
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: and we get really vulnerable, the same vulnerability.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Think of another level of vulnerability.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: With just okay, I get niked, just because I want
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: us to make sure that we're growing and not thinking
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: that we're struggling alone or suffering will alone. And so
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: if you're interested in being that community, I would like
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: to personally invite you to our Patreon link in the description.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Nineteen dollars can't beat that, all right, I'm not expecting much,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: all right, but however, I love these guys. Y'all go
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  Speaker 1: join their community. Their podcast, sharpen Up Podcasts, not only
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: is on BGTV, but they have their own platform, just
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: look up sharping Up. We'll also link that below too.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: But until next week. Until next time, remember life could
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: be much more simple if you just ask charity. Thank
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: you for tuning in to this week's episode, since you've
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  Speaker 1: made it this far, you might as well connect with
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  Speaker 2: Smith.
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  Speaker 1: I know I won't see you back until next week,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: but until then, remember to love always yourself and always thank.
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  Speaker 8: Thank God for one another day.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, hey, I know we could be another way. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: pray thank God for another day. Hey hey, I'm just
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: thankful for another day. Hey hey, another day? Oh, another
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  Speaker 3: day wise, another day to get it right, another day
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: to rise up, another day living another day. We loved ones.
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  Speaker 3: I always remember hold it down for a ball one
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  Speaker 3: yeh