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The Masonic Roundtable - 0559 - Portable Education · The Masonic Roundtable - Freemasonry Today for Today's Freemasons

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  Speaker: Hello and welcome back to the Masonic Roundtable Weekly
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  Speaker: program, where brothers and Masons get together to talk
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  Speaker: about Masonic news and opinions in a friendly and social manner.
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  Speaker: Following disclaimer applies for tonight's episode.
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  Speaker: The thoughts and opinions expressed here are solely those
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  Speaker: of the participants and do not reflect any Grand Lodge
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  Speaker: statements or positions.
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  Speaker: Chat along with us, uh, on
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  Speaker: You know me, I am not John Ruark.
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  Speaker: He is out doing stuff and things tonight.
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  Speaker: I am, however, Jason Richards,
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  Speaker: past master of Acacia Lodge
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  Speaker: number sixteen in Clifton,
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  Speaker: Virginia.
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  Speaker: Next up, Joe Martinez.
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  Speaker: Hi. Oh, hello.
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  Speaker: Hi. Joe Martinez.
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  Speaker: Yeah, I disappeared.
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  Speaker: Oh, hello.
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  Speaker: We got a new guy at the controls, Joe Martinez.
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  Speaker: Uh, fix my name.
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  Speaker: Uh. Let's see.
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  Speaker: Past master of Manasseh Lodge
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  Speaker: number one eighty two in
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  Speaker: Manassas, Virginia.
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  Speaker: And, uh, yeah, member of things and stuff.
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  Speaker: So good to see you.
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  Speaker: We're glad to have you.
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  Speaker: Next up, Robert Johnson.
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  Speaker: What's up?
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  Speaker: Hey, Robert Johnson, past master, Waukegan, seventy eight,
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  Speaker: past Master of Novum, eleven eighty three, the premier
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  Speaker: education lodge in the state of Illinois and the host of the
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  Speaker: Whence Came You podcast.
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  Speaker: Great to be here as always.
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  Speaker: Is great to have you.
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  Speaker: Ooh.
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  Speaker: All right.
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  Speaker: So first and foremost, we have to give a shout out to all the
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  Speaker: So you.
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  Speaker: So, so I, it was an interesting conversation this afternoon.
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  Speaker: And, uh, this came up, John
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  Speaker: John's twenty forty came up and
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  Speaker: I just have to say this, it was
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  Speaker: really interesting.
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  Speaker: He said, I always hear John talk about twenty forty.
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  Speaker: And, you know, I don't view it as a data point.
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  Speaker: I view it as like inspiration.
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  Speaker: Like we could die by twenty forty unless we do something.
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  Speaker: And I thought that was an interesting spin on that.
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  Speaker: I love it.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: I mean, the funny thing is the most recent trend projections
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  Speaker: are actually twenty thirty six.
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  Speaker: Oof.
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  Speaker: But yeah, it's a range a decade, right?
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  Speaker: We were there yesterday.
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  Speaker: We were there yesterday.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Hey, Joe, what have we got going on next weekend?
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  Speaker: Uh oh, next weekend is esoteric con.
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  Speaker: Yes, it has come.
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  Speaker: It is here and it's ready to boogie.
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  Speaker: And it's got its dancing shoes on.
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  Speaker: They're almost here.
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  Speaker: So yeah.
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  Speaker: The weekend begins Friday night at Sinistral Brewing Company in
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  Speaker: Old Town Manassas.
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  Speaker: Uh, so you will see all of your hosts of the Masonic Roundtable
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  Speaker: there, as well as many other awesome Masonic folks and
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  Speaker: spiritual folks and esoteric folks of all flavors.
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  Speaker: Uh, then Saturday we have the actual conference.
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  Speaker: So a full day of esotericism and
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  Speaker: fellowship and hugging your
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  Speaker: buddies.
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  Speaker: And then, uh, Sunday special event.
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  Speaker: Um, if you got an invite, you know, what's going on.
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  Speaker: And, uh, yeah, so this is, uh, let's see number seven.
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  Speaker: So good times seven for real.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Number seven.
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  Speaker: Oh my God, number six.
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  Speaker: We took a year off.
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  Speaker: Sorry.
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  Speaker: Number six six six seven six seven.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Mhm.
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  Speaker: Um. What else, what else Jason.
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  Speaker: What else?
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  Speaker: Well, it's time for everybody's
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  Speaker: favorite time of the show,
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  Speaker: especially Joe's.
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  Speaker: It is.
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  Speaker: Tarot card of the week.
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  Speaker: You.
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  Speaker: Love that song.
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  Speaker: All right.
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  Speaker: And tonight we have my daily driver.
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  Speaker: The transient Light tarot.
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  Speaker: Mhm.
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  Speaker: Keep it on my desk.
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  Speaker: Oh, crap.
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  Speaker: What is it?
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  Speaker: Is it the tower?
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  Speaker: What is it?
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  Speaker: Yes.
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  Speaker: That is a perfect card for the show.
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  Speaker: Dog.
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  Speaker: Yes.
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  Speaker: Oh, don't we always get the
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  Speaker: tower when Jason's running the
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  Speaker: controls?
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  Speaker: Um, I don't know.
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  Speaker: We have only got the tower twice in the show's history.
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  Speaker: No.
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  Speaker: Okay.
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  Speaker: So we did an episode on where the Freemasons behind the tarot,
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  Speaker: and John did a three card spread for TMR and pulled the tower.
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  Speaker: This is the second time we've pulled the tower in the show.
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  Speaker: All right.
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  Speaker: Um, the tower is, you know, you have some you have some cards in
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  Speaker: tarot that are, you know, universally considered like the
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  Speaker: bad cards, right.
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  Speaker: The ten of swords, three of swords, five of cups.
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  Speaker: Um, the tower and the tower.
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  Speaker: That they should, they should put that before the word.
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  Speaker: The tower.
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  Speaker: Um, yeah, I, I like the tower.
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  Speaker: The tower.
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  Speaker: Yes.
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  Speaker: and I like the death card also.
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  Speaker: But yeah, the tower.
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  Speaker: Maybe it's because I thrive on chaos.
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  Speaker: I don't know.
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  Speaker: I like the death card.
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  Speaker: This is yeah, this has been a chaotic.
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  Speaker: So. So what is the tower all about, Joe?
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  Speaker: Chaos.
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  Speaker: Confusion.
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  Speaker: Uh. Unexpected change.
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  Speaker: So maybe somebody just won a lotto ticket.
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  Speaker: That's unexpected change.
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  Speaker: You never know.
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  Speaker: Um, unexpected chaotic change.
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  Speaker: I mean, if I won the lotto, I'd
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  Speaker: be super violent towards certain
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  Speaker: people, like, right off the bat,
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  Speaker: you know, it's like, hey, you
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  Speaker: remember me?
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  Speaker: You know?
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  Speaker: And yeah, just like pay legal fees now.
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  Speaker: Yes.
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  Speaker: So not too bad.
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  Speaker: I don't I don't mind the tower.
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  Speaker: I mean, it's, it's kind of apropos considering the person
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  Speaker: who loves the tower card the most is not here tonight.
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  Speaker: So.
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  Speaker: Yes.
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  Speaker: Well, I think the tower card has cost.
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  Speaker: The more.
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  Speaker: The most money that a tower card has cost any of us.
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  Speaker: So that's fair.
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  Speaker: But it's an apropos.
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  Speaker: It's a great card for the evening because, like I think
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  Speaker: some of the impetus behind tonight's episode is, you know,
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  Speaker: being ready for the unexpected.
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  Speaker: Yes.
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  Speaker: Well, I mean, not to get too personal.
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  Speaker: I mean, uh, so, you know, our, our primary host is, is out
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  Speaker: today, but he did send us a picture of where he was having
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  Speaker: dinner and he is going to be at In and Out burger.
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  Speaker: So the tower could be
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  Speaker: representing, you know, his
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  Speaker: evening in the hotel room after
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  Speaker: a night and, you know, going
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  Speaker: animal style change to his his
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  Speaker: gut biome.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Well, in and out, I'm pretty sure as delicious as it is, I'm
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  Speaker: pretty sure it destroys all living things inside your gut.
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  Speaker: So yeah, you know, and if you ever complain that they have
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  Speaker: that they didn't cook your burger, they'll tell you we only
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  Speaker: cook them medium.
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  Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker: So you're, you're getting some raw dog meat dog.
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  Speaker: Anyway, no complaints here anyway.
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  Speaker: Better than White Castle where
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  Speaker: like the burger never touches
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  Speaker: the grill.
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  Speaker: Well, half of it.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: You're right.
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  Speaker: It's a good.
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  Speaker: You know what?
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  Speaker: I've got pictures of us in Kentucky smashing white castles.
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  Speaker: So yep yep yep.
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  Speaker: Both.
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  Speaker: Not twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker: It's okay.
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  Speaker: So what are we talking about tonight?
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  Speaker: Uh, Robert, I think portable masonry or portable education
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  Speaker: was your requested topic.
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  Speaker: Like what was going through your
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  Speaker: head about, uh, you know what we
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  Speaker: need to bring with us when we
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  Speaker: travel?
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  Speaker: So as somebody who travels around a lot to do
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  Speaker: presentations, um, or to assist in degree work, I can't tell you
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  Speaker: how many times there has been sort of a miscommunication about
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  Speaker: what sort of technology the lodge has in house.
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  Speaker: Um, or maybe, uh, they just don't have what they need to
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  Speaker: facilitate a presentation.
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  Speaker: Um, you know, all kind of different things.
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  Speaker: You know, I'm thinking like everyday carry items that, you
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  Speaker: know, I love EDC stuff.
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  Speaker: Uh, somebody might come over to my, uh, you know, uh, Facebook
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  Speaker: page and we might compare like, uh, you know, bag dump or pocket
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  Speaker: dump, you know, what do you got?
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  Speaker: You know, this cool pen that Spencer Hammond made?
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  Speaker: It's made of brass and awesome
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  Speaker: curled wood or, you know, uh, I
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  Speaker: got a remarkable tablet, but I
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  Speaker: never leave home without my
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  Speaker: Moleskine and my, uh, regular
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  Speaker: pen also, you know, just those
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  Speaker: kind of quality items that you
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  Speaker: always have to sort of save the
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  Speaker: day.
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  Speaker: And I think when I was going
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  Speaker: through this, um, I had recently
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  Speaker: gone to a lodge, uh, to do a
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  Speaker: presentation, which this lodge
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  Speaker: had never done presentations
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  Speaker: like ever had anybody come in
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  Speaker: before.
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  Speaker: Uh, but they were like, yeah, we have a projector and a screen.
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  Speaker: And I was like, oh, that's awesome.
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  Speaker: Um, but they had never, you know, tested it or used it
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  Speaker: before and nobody there knew how to use it.
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  Speaker: So, um, I ended up having to
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  Speaker: pass my iPad around to the seven
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  Speaker: dudes who were there and show
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  Speaker: them, you know, these
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  Speaker: historical, you know, documents
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  Speaker: or whatever.
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  Speaker: And they were able to check them out.
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  Speaker: But It's like those things or I don't know.
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  Speaker: Have you ever been to a lodge?
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  Speaker: And and you gotta, you gotta
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  Speaker: plug in your laptop and you do
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  Speaker: it.
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  Speaker: But, but you go to plug it in
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  Speaker: and you realize every outlet in
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  Speaker: the joint is a two prong outlet
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  Speaker: because they haven't updated
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  Speaker: wiring.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Oh, no. And then if you're like some of us, you just ask them
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  Speaker: for a pair of, you know, vise grips and you rip the grounding
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  Speaker: plug off of your laptop charger and charge it anyway.
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  Speaker: Um, or you carry a cheater, you got a little two to three prong
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  Speaker: adapter in your glove box, you know, things like that.
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  Speaker: Saving the day.
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  Speaker: Portable education.
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  Speaker: I think the best things ever was projectors.
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  Speaker: I used to carry around this big honkin projector that uh.
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  Speaker: I acquired from a previous job when they went out of business
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  Speaker: and I went shopping.
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  Speaker: Uh, but five finger discount.
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  Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker: So, I mean, it was this huge honking thing, you know, and the
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  Speaker: lamp has been dying on it for like twenty years probably.
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  Speaker: And now I think when we were at Ezekiel Bates at Masonic, maybe.
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  Speaker: Oh, gosh.
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  Speaker: A number of years ago, we had a booth there, and John and Jason
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  Speaker: brought this like micro projector and it was awesome.
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  Speaker: And that was so cool.
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  Speaker: You know, the technology's gotten so small.
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  Speaker: You just like, have, you know, you could have like a presenters
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  Speaker: kit, you know?
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: Thanks.
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  Speaker: Patreon.
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  Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker: So I love that you brought this up because I think in all the
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  Speaker: years that I've traveled masonically every single thing
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  Speaker: that I've added to my my go bag.
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  Speaker: My portable kit has all been
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  Speaker: through mistakes or issues like
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  Speaker: it was never thought of in
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  Speaker: advance.
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  Speaker: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker: Like, I think the first time I went to, um, a lodge to present
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  Speaker: and it was a, it was a out of town lodge, you know, it was, it
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  Speaker: was a bit of a ways away and they were a bit rural and they
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  Speaker: said they had a projector and a screen and I was super jazzed.
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  Speaker: And, uh, I went with my laptop and, uh, they did have a
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  Speaker: projector, but it was still, uh, you know, one of the old ones
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  Speaker: with the pins.
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  Speaker: Um, and they didn't have any HDMI.
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  Speaker: And I'm like, I don't even have an adapter for that.
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  Speaker: I was like, well, we're going to do hand puppets the rest of the
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  Speaker: night because we're screwed.
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  Speaker: Yeah.
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  Speaker: It was perfect for you because you, you talk with your hands.
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  Speaker: I do, but like, no, no doubt.
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  Speaker: I mean, I've heard of guys who have traveled to lodges just
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  Speaker: like you, only to find that when the lodge was like, oh, yeah, we
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  Speaker: got a projector.
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  Speaker: They meant their slide projector, like the chunk.
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  Speaker: Yes.
• 14:42
  Speaker: They were like, oh.
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  Speaker: And we're talking about a guy
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  Speaker: who like traveled from Indiana
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  Speaker: to Jersey.
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  Speaker: And so this thing that cost a
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  Speaker: lodge a lot of money to bring
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  Speaker: somebody out.
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  Speaker: Um, yeah, you know, it was it's not ideal.
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  Speaker: Um, I would not have wanted to be in that position.
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  Speaker: It just because you feel like you can't offer the best
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  Speaker: education you could or the best show, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker: Um, you can't give a good presentation performance if if
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  Speaker: you don't have the tools per se.
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  Speaker: Um, but if you know your topic
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  Speaker: well enough, I think most most
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  Speaker: speakers that I know, um, can
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  Speaker: manage without it, you know,
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  Speaker: they can, they're subject matter
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  Speaker: experts, they get up there and
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  Speaker: they'll roll and you don't need
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  Speaker: it.
• 15:37
  Speaker: Um, but, you know, I don't think.
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  Speaker: Oh, sorry.
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  Speaker: Go ahead Jason.
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  Speaker: I was going to say, I think
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  Speaker: we've been lucky in the sense
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  Speaker: that like, we, we have been
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  Speaker: afforded the opportunity to
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  Speaker: travel and, and speak enough
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  Speaker: that like, we've been able to
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  Speaker: work a lot of the bumps out, um,
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  Speaker: over time.
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  Speaker: And so it's not a big deal.
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  Speaker: Generally speaking, you know,
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  Speaker: showing up to a lodge and does
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  Speaker: not, not having that projector
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  Speaker: there.
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  Speaker: It's like, okay, we'll do this on the fly.
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  Speaker: And hey, this forty five minute presentation is going to be ten
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  Speaker: to fifteen because like, that's all I'm going to be able to hold
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  Speaker: people's attention for.
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  Speaker: It's not ideal, but it, but it works well, I think too.
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  Speaker: I was actually going to I didn't
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  Speaker: know you were going to say that,
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  Speaker: but I'm actually going to
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  Speaker: disagree with you a little bit,
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  Speaker: because I've seen all of you
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  Speaker: present.
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  Speaker: And when there are presentations where, you know, you know, first
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  Speaker: of all, nobody here, um, including John, are presenters
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  Speaker: that actually read their slides.
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  Speaker: Like you ever go to a presentation and you literally
• 16:50
  Speaker: see the person reading their slides to you.
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  Speaker: And I'm like, I don't need you to do that, man, I could, I
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  Speaker: could do that myself.
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  Speaker: Um, but I think all of us,
• 16:59
  Speaker: especially y'all who have been
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  Speaker: doing this longer, don't read
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  Speaker: your slides.
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  Speaker: And the slides are there more for aesthetics than for actual
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  Speaker: content kind of thing.
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  Speaker: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker: And, and to that point, you can
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  Speaker: deliver a presentation without
• 17:13
  Speaker: having slides.
• 17:13
  Speaker: I personally use slides not to read content.
• 17:16
  Speaker: I use it so people don't stare at me the entire time.
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  Speaker: You know, just look at the TV or look at the projector.
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  Speaker: I'll be over here jibber jabbering.
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  Speaker: But it's to take the focus off of me.
• 17:25
  Speaker: Wasn't that the greatest part of Covid?
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  Speaker: When we would present online
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  Speaker: through Zoom, you could just go
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  Speaker: camera off.
• 17:32
  Speaker: Yes.
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  Speaker: Present and just use like a red dot or whatever to point at
• 17:37
  Speaker: stuff on the screen.
• 17:38
  Speaker: Yeah, it was a lot of good time, a lot of good time.
• 17:41
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 17:41
  Speaker: Um, but yeah, I use like, I try
• 17:46
  Speaker: to use slides for like
• 17:49
  Speaker: subconscious, like
• 17:50
  Speaker: reinforcement.
• 17:51
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 17:52
  Speaker: Right.
• 17:52
  Speaker: Like thematic.
• 17:54
  Speaker: It just kind of, you know, you, it makes you feel a certain way,
• 18:00
  Speaker: but you don't know that it's making it, making you do that.
• 18:05
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 18:06
  Speaker: You know, it was many, many
• 18:08
  Speaker: years ago when, uh, I went to
• 18:12
  Speaker: like a train, the trainer when I
• 18:13
  Speaker: was working in the aircraft
• 18:16
  Speaker: maintenance.
• 18:17
  Speaker: And I remember, you know, and I'm just like, I was, you know,
• 18:24
  Speaker: I'm a smart guy.
• 18:24
  Speaker: Like I went to college and stuff
• 18:26
  Speaker: and got a fancy, you know,
• 18:29
  Speaker: Certificate.
• 18:31
  Speaker: But I was never like in debate club.
• 18:34
  Speaker: I was never like, I'm gonna get up here and pontificate to my
• 18:37
  Speaker: fellows, you know?
• 18:38
  Speaker: Um, and so when the opportunity came to go to this little
• 18:41
  Speaker: workshop that was like, hey, how to present or whatever.
• 18:44
  Speaker: I remember it like most of it
• 18:47
  Speaker: was just watching some Ted
• 18:50
  Speaker: talks.
• 18:51
  Speaker: And anytime that there were, uh,
• 18:55
  Speaker: visuals for the slides, it was
• 18:57
  Speaker: something that was related to
• 18:58
  Speaker: what was going on in the talk,
• 19:00
  Speaker: but really had no information on
• 19:04
  Speaker: it whatsoever.
• 19:04
  Speaker: If anything, it was used to make you, the presenter, move along.
• 19:13
  Speaker: Like, oh, that's the next thing I gotta talk about.
• 19:15
  Speaker: It helps you kind of keep track.
• 19:17
  Speaker: Um, and that's the way I've
• 19:18
  Speaker: always done my presentations,
• 19:20
  Speaker: right.
• 19:21
  Speaker: Socratic mind palace.
• 19:23
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 19:24
  Speaker: Mhm.
• 19:25
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 19:25
  Speaker: For you.
• 19:26
  Speaker: Right.
• 19:26
  Speaker: The audience.
• 19:27
  Speaker: Hey.
• 19:27
  Speaker: we're giving away a secret here.
• 19:29
  Speaker: The audience thinks, hey, you
• 19:30
  Speaker: just put up some awesome slides,
• 19:32
  Speaker: um, for us to, to look at and,
• 19:34
  Speaker: and conceptualize what you're
• 19:35
  Speaker: talking about.
• 19:36
  Speaker: Yes.
• 19:38
  Speaker: But also it keeps us on track
• 19:40
  Speaker: because we're chatty Cathy's,
• 19:42
  Speaker: you know?
• 19:43
  Speaker: Indeed.
• 19:44
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker: So what's in your guys's?
• 19:47
  Speaker: Uh. Oh, man.
• 19:51
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 19:52
  Speaker: Kopinsky.
• 19:53
  Speaker: That's let's talk Pecha Kucha first.
• 19:55
  Speaker: All right.
• 19:56
  Speaker: We can look all right.
• 19:57
  Speaker: Deviation short attention spans.
• 20:00
  Speaker: Right.
• 20:00
  Speaker: We covered that last week.
• 20:01
  Speaker: But yes.
• 20:03
  Speaker: Yeah yeah.
• 20:03
  Speaker: What's what's Pecha Kucha guys besides a funny name.
• 20:10
  Speaker: I was on mute.
• 20:11
  Speaker: Uh, didn't Chad actually come on the show and explain that to us?
• 20:15
  Speaker: Mhm.
• 20:15
  Speaker: Yes.
• 20:16
  Speaker: Yeah he did.
• 20:18
  Speaker: We did an episode on it, I believe.
• 20:20
  Speaker: Mhm.
• 20:21
  Speaker: And I think he did his explanation in Pecha Kucha.
• 20:24
  Speaker: Absolutely.
• 20:25
  Speaker: But yeah, it was meta.
• 20:27
  Speaker: It was it was very meta.
• 20:28
  Speaker: Um, but yeah, I mean, in, in general, it's twenty slides, I
• 20:32
  Speaker: think it's 20s per slide.
• 20:34
  Speaker: Um, your talk is less than seven minutes and it should be mostly
• 20:39
  Speaker: visual and it.
• 20:42
  Speaker: Yep.
• 20:43
  Speaker: It's Japanese in origin.
• 20:44
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 20:44
  Speaker: And the slides just move chit chat on your own.
• 20:49
  Speaker: So so like they're just auto.
• 20:51
  Speaker: So when they move the you better catch up.
• 20:55
  Speaker: Uh, it's a good time though, and it's a lot of fun.
• 21:01
  Speaker: Um, yeah.
• 21:02
  Speaker: And so in our episode on
• 21:04
  Speaker: Pechakucha, we, uh, we had each
• 21:08
  Speaker: host do slides for one of the
• 21:09
  Speaker: other hosts.
• 21:11
  Speaker: And so you came into this not knowing what the slides were
• 21:16
  Speaker: going to be, what they were going to look like, what they
• 21:19
  Speaker: were going to say.
• 21:20
  Speaker: And, uh.
• 21:24
  Speaker: It was fun trying to make other people squirm.
• 21:28
  Speaker: It was a lot of fun.
• 21:29
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker: So EDC, for the lodge's first time I was out somewhere.
• 21:38
  Speaker: I think we were at Ezekiel Bates.
• 21:40
  Speaker: I was getting ready to present, and I didn't have what I needed
• 21:43
  Speaker: to connect to their projector.
• 21:45
  Speaker: And Joe pulled out ye olde bag of dongles.
• 21:52
  Speaker: The bag of dongles?
• 21:54
  Speaker: Yeah, not just not just his dongle, but his bag of dongles.
• 21:58
  Speaker: That's right, ye old bag of dongles.
• 22:01
  Speaker: I still has it.
• 22:03
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 22:04
  Speaker: You had every single adapter known to man in there.
• 22:06
  Speaker: You're like, what?
• 22:07
  Speaker: What year is that, Mac?
• 22:09
  Speaker: Boop boop boop boop boop.
• 22:10
  Speaker: I got you.
• 22:11
  Speaker: Oh, wait.
• 22:12
  Speaker: Nope.
• 22:13
  Speaker: You need this one.
• 22:14
  Speaker: Yep.
• 22:15
  Speaker: I think you even have, like, a FireWire adapter.
• 22:17
  Speaker: And that was crazy.
• 22:18
  Speaker: I think I did, yeah.
• 22:20
  Speaker: But, uh.
• 22:22
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 22:23
  Speaker: You guys have any suggestions?
• 22:27
  Speaker: Well, you stole mine because mine was the bag of dongles,
• 22:31
  Speaker: which I've, I have I have tightened up a little bit, uh,
• 22:35
  Speaker: with the advent of Usb-c.
• 22:37
  Speaker: Um, you know, I have, yeah, like the, uh, serial port dongles and
• 22:41
  Speaker: stuff like that.
• 22:42
  Speaker: Um, those are gone, but yeah,
• 22:44
  Speaker: definitely have lots of dongles
• 22:46
  Speaker: to plug into Ethernet or to plug
• 22:48
  Speaker: into whatever type of projector
• 22:50
  Speaker: they have.
• 22:51
  Speaker: I now bring us, um, what's it, what's the VGA adapter now?
• 22:56
  Speaker: Because I know there's someplace I'm going to go that has a
• 22:58
  Speaker: twenty year old projector.
• 23:00
  Speaker: Um, so yeah, not, not stealing
• 23:02
  Speaker: your answer, but yeah, my bag of
• 23:04
  Speaker: dongles always travels with me
• 23:05
  Speaker: regardless.
• 23:08
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 23:09
  Speaker: So I would say, uh, oh, go ahead.
• 23:12
  Speaker: No, no, you.
• 23:14
  Speaker: So I would say, um, laser
• 23:17
  Speaker: pointer, you can get the, the
• 23:20
  Speaker: combo laser pointer slide
• 23:22
  Speaker: Advancer.
• 23:23
  Speaker: Um, I think that is super
• 23:27
  Speaker: important because usually like
• 23:30
  Speaker: where you set your laptop up is
• 23:32
  Speaker: not like super convenient for
• 23:36
  Speaker: the space you're going to be
• 23:37
  Speaker: talking from.
• 23:38
  Speaker: And I like to move around when I talk.
• 23:43
  Speaker: So it's really helpful.
• 23:45
  Speaker: Yes.
• 23:46
  Speaker: Question.
• 23:46
  Speaker: Martinez.
• 23:47
  Speaker: Doctor Richards.
• 23:48
  Speaker: Um, yeah.
• 23:50
  Speaker: And I think this is a me problem because I, I, I try to carry
• 23:54
  Speaker: laser pointer slash slide movers as often as I can.
• 23:58
  Speaker: Um, I end up buying like five or six of them at a time because I
• 24:01
  Speaker: can't tell you how many times I've left them at the lodge that
• 24:04
  Speaker: I was talking at.
• 24:06
  Speaker: And then I come home and all I
• 24:07
  Speaker: have is that little USB adapter
• 24:09
  Speaker: that's still stuck in my
• 24:10
  Speaker: computer.
• 24:10
  Speaker: But the, the, the, uh, you know, the red light is gone.
• 24:15
  Speaker: So how do you keep that from happening?
• 24:20
  Speaker: You wear Velcro gloves and you
• 24:22
  Speaker: attach the laser pointer to your
• 24:24
  Speaker: hand.
• 24:25
  Speaker: Notice that when you're talking.
• 24:27
  Speaker: No. Um, it's just one of my things in my mental checklist.
• 24:31
  Speaker: Like I'm like, okay, I need to
• 24:34
  Speaker: check for this, this, this, this
• 24:35
  Speaker: and this.
• 24:36
  Speaker: Okay.
• 24:36
  Speaker: I'm not missing anything critical.
• 24:39
  Speaker: I can go home now.
• 24:40
  Speaker: I suck at it.
• 24:42
  Speaker: Yeah, I, for me, it's always, uh, I was going to say, yeah, a
• 24:47
  Speaker: dedicated presentation clicker with, with the, uh, spare
• 24:50
  Speaker: battery is a good one.
• 24:52
  Speaker: Um, I forget the hell out of spare batteries.
• 24:57
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 24:58
  Speaker: Like me too.
• 24:59
  Speaker: Or plenty of times where I'm like, aw, it's not working.
• 25:03
  Speaker: You you have the batteries on
• 25:05
  Speaker: you and you've always had them
• 25:07
  Speaker: on you.
• 25:08
  Speaker: And when it comes time to
• 25:09
  Speaker: change, those are super expired
• 25:12
  Speaker: and dead.
• 25:13
  Speaker: So now you're in a whole nother ball of wax.
• 25:15
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 25:16
  Speaker: Um. Oh, man.
• 25:20
  Speaker: What about a disaster flash drive?
• 25:23
  Speaker: Like, have your presentation in, like, three different formats on
• 25:29
  Speaker: a flash drive so that you have like a PDF version, a PowerPoint
• 25:34
  Speaker: version, and a keynote version.
• 25:36
  Speaker: And then like you could just some smart TVs, you just plug it
• 25:39
  Speaker: in and scroll through the PDF if you need to.
• 25:42
  Speaker: Oh, I've not gone that far.
• 25:45
  Speaker: I have started to carry a, um,
• 25:48
  Speaker: you know, a little portable hard
• 25:50
  Speaker: drive with my presentation on it
• 25:52
  Speaker: because sometimes you'll go to a
• 25:54
  Speaker: lodge and they've already set up
• 25:55
  Speaker: for you.
• 25:55
  Speaker: They have a laptop, they have a TV, they have projector.
• 25:58
  Speaker: It's all ready to go.
• 25:59
  Speaker: So you don't have to set up your
• 26:00
  Speaker: own gear and equipment and
• 26:01
  Speaker: stuff.
• 26:02
  Speaker: Um, but they don't have internet or you can't send an email to
• 26:05
  Speaker: yourself or that kind of thing.
• 26:06
  Speaker: So you end up having.
• 26:07
  Speaker: But yeah, that's next level, Robert with putting it in PDF
• 26:11
  Speaker: and, and keynote for the Mac nerds for sure.
• 26:15
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 26:16
  Speaker: well, the PowerPoint thing I
• 26:17
  Speaker: learned actually from, uh, I
• 26:20
  Speaker: can't say his name on, on, uh,
• 26:22
  Speaker: on the show because he'll throw
• 26:23
  Speaker: a fit.
• 26:24
  Speaker: But a noted Masonic scholar, uh, is always using PowerPoint.
• 26:29
  Speaker: And I'm like, why do you do that?
• 26:31
  Speaker: And he was like, it's just so compatible.
• 26:35
  Speaker: Uh, actually in PDF, not
• 26:36
  Speaker: PowerPoint, always presenting on
• 26:38
  Speaker: a, on a PDF file, uh, that he
• 26:42
  Speaker: just scrolls through and, um, it
• 26:44
  Speaker: seems so bizarre to me, but it
• 26:47
  Speaker: works and it works on TVs and
• 26:49
  Speaker: everything else.
• 26:50
  Speaker: So it's a good option.
• 26:54
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 26:58
  Speaker: What about so.
• 26:59
  Speaker: Oh go ahead.
• 27:00
  Speaker: I've started trying to make sure that I either bring or have
• 27:05
  Speaker: access to a Bluetooth speaker.
• 27:08
  Speaker: Mhm.
• 27:10
  Speaker: That's glorious.
• 27:14
  Speaker: But that is I mean, that's whenever I do my deaf
• 27:17
  Speaker: presentation because there's so much audio in that.
• 27:20
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 27:21
  Speaker: That's and that's clutch.
• 27:23
  Speaker: Well, so the other thing too, I
• 27:25
  Speaker: think is to remember is you got
• 27:26
  Speaker: to have the tech for what you
• 27:31
  Speaker: do.
• 27:31
  Speaker: Um, and I've told a million times people like if they go see
• 27:35
  Speaker: your presentation on, on like the deaf presentation, it's not
• 27:38
  Speaker: really a presentation as, as it is, it's a performance.
• 27:43
  Speaker: You know what I mean?
• 27:44
  Speaker: Like you do such a great job with that one.
• 27:45
  Speaker: And, uh, the audio that you put together for it is really like,
• 27:51
  Speaker: it's an experience.
• 27:52
  Speaker: You know, I often think about it.
• 27:54
  Speaker: Um, have you guys ever been to a planetarium?
• 27:58
  Speaker: And they, when they do, like, so
• 28:01
  Speaker: years ago when we lived in
• 28:03
  Speaker: California, um, I was a, I don't
• 28:06
  Speaker: know, like one of those yearly
• 28:07
  Speaker: donor people who donated to the
• 28:09
  Speaker: Griffith Observatory.
• 28:12
  Speaker: Um, and every year we would go, um, uh, and go to the, the thing
• 28:19
  Speaker: where they basically like you're in the dome and they show the
• 28:22
  Speaker: cool light show and it's like the dawn of man.
• 28:25
  Speaker: And throughout the whole thing, there's this like floating orb
• 28:30
  Speaker: and there's a guy who like, narrates this whole thing.
• 28:32
  Speaker: And when the lights come up, you
• 28:34
  Speaker: see he's been holding the sun
• 28:35
  Speaker: the whole time in his hand and
• 28:37
  Speaker: been narrating.
• 28:38
  Speaker: And it's just such a awesome performance.
• 28:41
  Speaker: And when I saw you do that death presentation, I always think
• 28:44
  Speaker: back to the Griffith Observatory because it was just so on point.
• 28:50
  Speaker: So yeah, good Bluetooth speaker.
• 28:54
  Speaker: Heck yeah.
• 28:57
  Speaker: I think, uh, one thing that I love to bring, but I always
• 29:00
  Speaker: forget is a timer.
• 29:04
  Speaker: Oh, so like this one is simple,
• 29:06
  Speaker: you know, you just like tip it
• 29:07
  Speaker: over on whatever, um, Um, time
• 29:11
  Speaker: limit you want like thirty,
• 29:13
  Speaker: twenty five, fifteen kind of
• 29:14
  Speaker: thing.
• 29:15
  Speaker: And you just tip it over and it counts down.
• 29:17
  Speaker: Um, or it's customizable too, but holy cow, I can't believe
• 29:21
  Speaker: this is still charged.
• 29:23
  Speaker: That's wild.
• 29:25
  Speaker: Anyway.
• 29:27
  Speaker: Yeah, you can see it's counting down the three.
• 29:29
  Speaker: And if I tap the bottom it'll like reset.
• 29:32
  Speaker: Uh, but anyway, a good timer, right?
• 29:35
  Speaker: Because one time, uh, John and I were in North Carolina at a
• 29:40
  Speaker: lodge and I presented first, and I think I presented for about an
• 29:44
  Speaker: hour and twenty minutes.
• 29:47
  Speaker: Oh, I had no script, just slides.
• 29:51
  Speaker: And they were like, yeah, just go to town.
• 29:52
  Speaker: And so I did.
• 29:53
  Speaker: And then I told John, John's like, well, and I was like, no,
• 29:58
  Speaker: dude, don't shorten yours.
• 30:01
  Speaker: You do all of it.
• 30:03
  Speaker: Do it.
• 30:04
  Speaker: We were there like hours.
• 30:06
  Speaker: It was awesome.
• 30:07
  Speaker: And those guys knew what they
• 30:08
  Speaker: were getting into, but I could
• 30:11
  Speaker: have been better had I had a
• 30:13
  Speaker: timer.
• 30:14
  Speaker: Um, I've gotten to.
• 30:16
  Speaker: I've been an Apple Watch person
• 30:17
  Speaker: for at least four or five years
• 30:18
  Speaker: now.
• 30:19
  Speaker: Um, so as soon as I start, I'll just start a timer on my watch
• 30:22
  Speaker: for fifteen minutes and then thirty minutes, um, just to see
• 30:25
  Speaker: if I'm on pace because when I, when I do PowerPoints, I've got
• 30:29
  Speaker: the, um, you know, how you guys see the presenter view.
• 30:32
  Speaker: Um, and it's got the clock on there, you know, it tells you
• 30:35
  Speaker: how long you're going.
• 30:36
  Speaker: I'm like, oh crap, I've been talking for this long, so I'll
• 30:38
  Speaker: use that because I can, I can ramble or I've noticed too.
• 30:42
  Speaker: And I think you guys have as well when you get a question and
• 30:45
  Speaker: then you go off into this weird tangent for twenty minutes, that
• 30:48
  Speaker: has absolutely nothing to do with your presentation.
• 30:51
  Speaker: And it's like, oh crap, we need
• 30:52
  Speaker: to get back to this because
• 30:53
  Speaker: there's twenty more minutes of
• 30:54
  Speaker: stuff left.
• 30:55
  Speaker: So yeah, for real, my, my Apple Watch has been a lifesaver.
• 31:01
  Speaker: I will usually, um, start like a stopwatch on my iPhone, and then
• 31:09
  Speaker: I will forget to look at it until I'm done.
• 31:15
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 31:17
  Speaker: That's, uh.
• 31:18
  Speaker: That sounds look down.
• 31:19
  Speaker: I'll be like, oh, whoops.
• 31:23
  Speaker: I've done similar stuff where I've just never started my timer
• 31:26
  Speaker: or brought it even out of my bag or like I've brought it with and
• 31:29
  Speaker: it was dead, which was why I was so damn surprised when this
• 31:33
  Speaker: thing like turned on when I tipped it over.
• 31:36
  Speaker: I like, dude, I haven't charged this thing in a year.
• 31:38
  Speaker: It still has half a charge anyway.
• 31:41
  Speaker: Um, what about a we haven't talked about credentials.
• 31:49
  Speaker: You guys ever like need?
• 31:50
  Speaker: Yes.
• 31:52
  Speaker: Like a like your dues card or like a letter of introduction,
• 31:56
  Speaker: those kind of things.
• 31:58
  Speaker: Or like my grand lodge is, is,
• 32:02
  Speaker: is one that's really sort of,
• 32:04
  Speaker: uh.
• 32:05
  Speaker: Um, libertarian in that it lets
• 32:09
  Speaker: lodges do what they want to do,
• 32:10
  Speaker: but they do like it when we
• 32:13
  Speaker: follow protocol.
• 32:14
  Speaker: And so anytime I travel out of
• 32:15
  Speaker: state, I try to call up my grand
• 32:18
  Speaker: secretary.
• 32:19
  Speaker: And Frank is awesome.
• 32:20
  Speaker: And he's like, yep, here you go.
• 32:22
  Speaker: He's a couple.
• 32:23
  Speaker: Uh, he'll send me one in the mail and then he sends me a PDF
• 32:28
  Speaker: of it and I go, well, what if I need, like, I'm doing like
• 32:32
  Speaker: twelve trips this year?
• 32:34
  Speaker: And he's like, then print it twelve times.
• 32:39
  Speaker: Okay, boss.
• 32:40
  Speaker: So, uh, you know, they're really cool about that.
• 32:43
  Speaker: So yeah, I'll print them off, uh, for the year that I have
• 32:46
  Speaker: them and I, I put them inside my dues card wallet and that goes
• 32:49
  Speaker: in my travel bag for sure.
• 32:53
  Speaker: Uh, the one always make sure I have deuce cards handy.
• 32:58
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 32:59
  Speaker: I mean, the one time I did go
• 33:00
  Speaker: ahead, Robert, I was just going
• 33:02
  Speaker: to say the one time I didn't
• 33:03
  Speaker: have it with us, we were at
• 33:05
  Speaker: Acacia.
• 33:06
  Speaker: You guys were doing a second degree, and I got pulled into
• 33:09
  Speaker: the ante room and I had to do the testo because, uh, I didn't
• 33:13
  Speaker: have my dues card.
• 33:15
  Speaker: So every time I've been asked
• 33:17
  Speaker: for my dues card, I didn't have
• 33:19
  Speaker: it.
• 33:19
  Speaker: How crazy is that?
• 33:21
  Speaker: So yeah, that is literally the only in, in my, um, my grown up
• 33:27
  Speaker: wallet, not my Masonic wallet.
• 33:28
  Speaker: The only thing I keep in there is my, my Blue Lodge juice card.
• 33:32
  Speaker: Um, I've had to use it a couple times in the US just because.
• 33:35
  Speaker: Oh go ahead.
• 33:36
  Speaker: Sorry.
• 33:37
  Speaker: I will say now that both of my
• 33:39
  Speaker: grand jurisdictions are in grand
• 33:41
  Speaker: view.
• 33:43
  Speaker: I don't carry my dues card on me nearly as much as I used to.
• 33:46
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 33:47
  Speaker: That's fair.
• 33:48
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 33:49
  Speaker: We have it's nice.
• 33:51
  Speaker: We still use, uh, we're on Maury or M2 group kind of thing.
• 33:56
  Speaker: Um, and Amity kind of has a, a way into that and check status
• 34:02
  Speaker: like real time.
• 34:04
  Speaker: So that's really nice, but it's
• 34:07
  Speaker: still not like sanctioned as
• 34:08
  Speaker: official.
• 34:10
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 34:12
  Speaker: Um, I just got to deliver a delivery of some wings, so.
• 34:16
  Speaker: Ooh.
• 34:16
  Speaker: To all my people.
• 34:19
  Speaker: Wait.
• 34:20
  Speaker: What's up, shorty face?
• 34:21
  Speaker: We're live bro.
• 34:23
  Speaker: To every single person that's watching this.
• 34:25
  Speaker: Yeah, it's going to be on YouTube forever.
• 34:27
  Speaker: All the people.
• 34:28
  Speaker: All right.
• 34:28
  Speaker: Go on.
• 34:29
  Speaker: Skedaddle.
• 34:30
  Speaker: Sigma Alpha, go!
• 34:31
  Speaker: Oh my God.
• 34:33
  Speaker: All right.
• 34:34
  Speaker: My dad got garlic parmesan wings.
• 34:36
  Speaker: I ate half of them.
• 34:37
  Speaker: He has four left.
• 34:38
  Speaker: Okay, bye.
• 34:39
  Speaker: Flavor.
• 34:39
  Speaker: Good flavor.
• 34:41
  Speaker: What is that?
• 34:41
  Speaker: Papa John's.
• 34:42
  Speaker: Papa John's.
• 34:42
  Speaker: Clara.
• 34:46
  Speaker: Um, what was I going to say?
• 34:49
  Speaker: Um, while he's doing that, um, I did when I had, when I traveled
• 34:53
  Speaker: overseas, um or out of the country when I traveled to
• 34:57
  Speaker: Canada and UK, I did have to get a traveling certificate.
• 35:01
  Speaker: Um, so those are required because they don't do DOS cards.
• 35:05
  Speaker: Um. Thank you.
• 35:07
  Speaker: Thanks, Juan.
• 35:08
  Speaker: Juan.
• 35:09
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker: Uh, I John's not here, and
• 35:13
  Speaker: everything goes to crap on my
• 35:15
  Speaker: end.
• 35:15
  Speaker: Sorry.
• 35:16
  Speaker: The tower, baby.
• 35:17
  Speaker: The tower.
• 35:17
  Speaker: The tower!
• 35:18
  Speaker: Oh my God.
• 35:19
  Speaker: Right.
• 35:20
  Speaker: Coming for you.
• 35:23
  Speaker: That is too funny.
• 35:24
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 35:26
  Speaker: Uh. Uh, you know who I know does this one all the time is James
• 35:33
  Speaker: Buckhorn, and I think he just has a massive, um, dongle.
• 35:44
  Speaker: He has, like, a, an affinity for power banks.
• 35:50
  Speaker: Dude is obsessed with the amount
• 35:52
  Speaker: of, like, watts and power these
• 35:55
  Speaker: things have and how fast they
• 35:57
  Speaker: can transfer.
• 35:58
  Speaker: So a high capacity, slim Power bank.
• 36:00
  Speaker: That's a good option to have on you.
• 36:02
  Speaker: I try to keep one also, but, uh, I'll tell you right now, if you
• 36:08
  Speaker: meet James Buckhorn, I bet he's got no less than three.
• 36:14
  Speaker: And he probably will tell you that one of them could start his
• 36:17
  Speaker: truck if he needed it.
• 36:18
  Speaker: I we, him and him.
• 36:19
  Speaker: And I have discussed this.
• 36:20
  Speaker: I don't know how he's legally allowed to get on planes with
• 36:23
  Speaker: the number of power banks he has, because you can only bring
• 36:26
  Speaker: up to a certain amount of, of, of what's on the plane.
• 36:30
  Speaker: And I'm like, how do you bring all of these?
• 36:31
  Speaker: Like, he could literally power a
• 36:33
  Speaker: small rural town for a week, a
• 36:35
  Speaker: flux capacitor.
• 36:36
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 36:39
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker: Power makes a good, good idea.
• 36:43
  Speaker: I got one.
• 36:45
  Speaker: Did people forget all the time a little notebook?
• 36:50
  Speaker: Mhm.
• 36:51
  Speaker: Why would you bring a notebook?
• 36:53
  Speaker: Well, I started bringing little tiny ones.
• 36:55
  Speaker: I think I saw one that that
• 36:57
  Speaker: Robert had, and I was like, oh,
• 36:58
  Speaker: cool.
• 36:58
  Speaker: So then I bought like a twenty pack of little small leather
• 37:00
  Speaker: bound notebooks that I can keep in my coat.
• 37:02
  Speaker: Um, because a lot of times I will get asked questions that I
• 37:07
  Speaker: don't have the answer to right there on the spot.
• 37:08
  Speaker: And you always say the thing, well, I'll look into it and I'll
• 37:11
  Speaker: get back to you later.
• 37:12
  Speaker: And half the time it sounds like you're begging someone.
• 37:15
  Speaker: But if you have a notebook, you can write that question down.
• 37:17
  Speaker: Whether you're giving or listening to a presentation and
• 37:21
  Speaker: go back to it later and not leave that person hanging.
• 37:24
  Speaker: So I do like that.
• 37:28
  Speaker: Yeah, that is that is a clutch one.
• 37:30
  Speaker: That's the thing.
• 37:31
  Speaker: Like I always have, I try to
• 37:32
  Speaker: have, I used to have like a
• 37:34
  Speaker: nicer, you know, Moleskine I
• 37:36
  Speaker: used to buy, but I can't justify
• 37:39
  Speaker: the expense on uh, like a bound
• 37:42
  Speaker: notebook.
• 37:43
  Speaker: So I do like Moleskines, but I
• 37:44
  Speaker: buy they're just the cash books
• 37:46
  Speaker: they have like, you know,
• 37:47
  Speaker: perforated pages.
• 37:49
  Speaker: Um, they're terrible.
• 37:53
  Speaker: Sorry, dad joke.
• 37:54
  Speaker: Um, anyway, good solid paper.
• 37:58
  Speaker: Uh, make sure you got a good pen.
• 38:00
  Speaker: Nice, uh, nice pen.
• 38:02
  Speaker: You know, you will meet so many Masons when you, like.
• 38:06
  Speaker: Go when they, like, go to hand you like a BIC and you're like,
• 38:09
  Speaker: nope, got my own.
• 38:10
  Speaker: And you go to sign the register and they're like, what?
• 38:13
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 38:13
  Speaker: Like, uh, is it Tyler?
• 38:16
  Speaker: Um, from the National Masonic Memorial?
• 38:23
  Speaker: Is it named Tyler?
• 38:24
  Speaker: Young guy who works there?
• 38:28
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 38:29
  Speaker: Tyler van.
• 38:29
  Speaker: Nice.
• 38:30
  Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
• 38:31
  Speaker: Nice.
• 38:31
  Speaker: Yeah, that dude knows pens like you would not believe.
• 38:35
  Speaker: Oh, yeah.
• 38:37
  Speaker: He does.
• 38:39
  Speaker: So he he's one, you know, you got a good pen on you.
• 38:42
  Speaker: He'll be all in.
• 38:48
  Speaker: And we have bros who actually make amazing pens, uh, that you
• 38:54
  Speaker: can keep for a lifetime.
• 38:56
  Speaker: Um, I know I have, I have two
• 38:57
  Speaker: pens from Brother Spencer, um,
• 39:01
  Speaker: in Illinois.
• 39:02
  Speaker: Handmade pens and they are absolutely amazing.
• 39:07
  Speaker: I have a couple hand-turned ones as well.
• 39:10
  Speaker: One of which is made out of acacia wood.
• 39:14
  Speaker: That's sweet.
• 39:16
  Speaker: Gotta love the symbology behind that.
• 39:18
  Speaker: Mhm.
• 39:21
  Speaker: Ooh.
• 39:22
  Speaker: You guys ever go to you guys ever go to grand communication
• 39:26
  Speaker: and forget your apron?
• 39:29
  Speaker: No.
• 39:30
  Speaker: Damn.
• 39:31
  Speaker: No.
• 39:32
  Speaker: No. Well, I do.
• 39:35
  Speaker: So you can be a chump and walk in and grab one of those goofy
• 39:39
  Speaker: paper aprons they give out.
• 39:42
  Speaker: Ooh.
• 39:43
  Speaker: Oh, that's a nice one.
• 39:44
  Speaker: That's nice.
• 39:45
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 39:46
  Speaker: Mine's in my bag upstairs.
• 39:49
  Speaker: Well, yes, but Robert, I would
• 39:52
  Speaker: say Um, I'm kind of half lying
• 39:56
  Speaker: because I think for the seven
• 39:59
  Speaker: years that I had to go to annual
• 40:02
  Speaker: communication, our lodge would
• 40:04
  Speaker: bring our entire apron case
• 40:06
  Speaker: down.
• 40:06
  Speaker: So I always had an apron to wear.
• 40:09
  Speaker: Um, but yes, we do have the, the
• 40:11
  Speaker: really fun paper aprons, um as
• 40:14
  Speaker: well.
• 40:14
  Speaker: They're, they're kind of scary to look at.
• 40:16
  Speaker: They're literally like throw away barbecue napkins.
• 40:20
  Speaker: But, um, so I went over to, I
• 40:23
  Speaker: was lucky McCoy a supply was
• 40:25
  Speaker: there and they had like these
• 40:28
  Speaker: real basic, um, like rayon look,
• 40:33
  Speaker: silk look alikes, sort of white
• 40:35
  Speaker: aprons.
• 40:36
  Speaker: And they were like five dollars.
• 40:38
  Speaker: So I bought one and just, I keep it rolled up and it's at the
• 40:40
  Speaker: bottom of my bag just in case.
• 40:44
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 40:46
  Speaker: You guys ever been to a lodge
• 40:47
  Speaker: that's like, bring your own
• 40:49
  Speaker: apron because they don't have
• 40:50
  Speaker: them.
• 40:50
  Speaker: Mhm.
• 40:51
  Speaker: Mhm.
• 40:51
  Speaker: Mhm.
• 40:52
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 40:52
  Speaker: I will, I will, especially if I'm driving.
• 40:55
  Speaker: I will bring my apron case.
• 40:57
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 40:58
  Speaker: Aprons.
• 41:00
  Speaker: That's solid.
• 41:03
  Speaker: Let's see what else we said.
• 41:08
  Speaker: Uh, we got the flash drives.
• 41:11
  Speaker: The bag of dongles.
• 41:14
  Speaker: Oh, I got one.
• 41:16
  Speaker: A big bag of candy with really crinkly wrappers.
• 41:20
  Speaker: Oh, yeah.
• 41:21
  Speaker: Yes, for handing out to everybody.
• 41:24
  Speaker: Yes!
• 41:25
  Speaker: King.
• 41:26
  Speaker: Yeah, bro.
• 41:26
  Speaker: You got Williams special?
• 41:28
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 41:30
  Speaker: Uh, Bob's.
• 41:31
  Speaker: Why do people love those things?
• 41:33
  Speaker: You just literally.
• 41:34
  Speaker: There's a guy who comes to my
• 41:35
  Speaker: lodge and before every meeting,
• 41:37
  Speaker: he comes up to me and he hands
• 41:38
  Speaker: me an individually wrapped
• 41:39
  Speaker: lifesaver lime.
• 41:41
  Speaker: Every time I got better, I like lime, you know, this dude.
• 41:47
  Speaker: So, um, brother Chris, the guy from Boston.
• 41:50
  Speaker: Remember my lodge?
• 41:51
  Speaker: Yep.
• 41:52
  Speaker: Yes.
• 41:53
  Speaker: Um, he always has.
• 41:55
  Speaker: And he always hands me a
• 41:56
  Speaker: werther's original when he gets
• 41:58
  Speaker: there.
• 41:59
  Speaker: And it's in the little gold wrapper.
• 42:00
  Speaker: And I'm like, yeah, I'm so excited for it.
• 42:03
  Speaker: But I opened it.
• 42:05
  Speaker: Opened Werther's original baby.
• 42:07
  Speaker: Oh my God.
• 42:08
  Speaker: That's freaking awesome.
• 42:10
  Speaker: I love that he does that.
• 42:12
  Speaker: It would just be weird to go to
• 42:13
  Speaker: lodge and not get a lime
• 42:15
  Speaker: lifesaver.
• 42:16
  Speaker: So yeah, it'll make me sad one day, you know?
• 42:22
  Speaker: So that'll be in my go.
• 42:23
  Speaker: It'll be, you know, my portable education bag, right?
• 42:25
  Speaker: I'll have a life savers to give away.
• 42:29
  Speaker: Um.
• 42:30
  Speaker: Ooh.
• 42:32
  Speaker: Do you guys ever, like, bring a pin present from your master or
• 42:35
  Speaker: your grand lodge to the lodge where you're going?
• 42:39
  Speaker: That's always solid.
• 42:42
  Speaker: Yep.
• 42:43
  Speaker: I used to forget them all the time.
• 42:44
  Speaker: Um, and then Illinois struck these education, uh, pins.
• 42:49
  Speaker: And we had a very limited supply
• 42:50
  Speaker: because, you know, pins are
• 42:51
  Speaker: expensive and education gets no
• 42:53
  Speaker: budget.
• 42:54
  Speaker: But, um, so recently, uh, a really awesome brother, Mark
• 42:59
  Speaker: Sinek, um, he made these Masonic education pins that just have
• 43:04
  Speaker: like a diploma with a collegiate hat and it just says Masonic
• 43:09
  Speaker: education and a little Latin phrase at the bottom.
• 43:12
  Speaker: And he just gave me like a handful.
• 43:14
  Speaker: And I love taking those with me
• 43:15
  Speaker: and giving them to the lodge
• 43:18
  Speaker: education officer.
• 43:19
  Speaker: Um, and, you know, make it a
• 43:21
  Speaker: point to say, who's your lodge
• 43:24
  Speaker: education officer?
• 43:25
  Speaker: Right.
• 43:25
  Speaker: And whoever it is, I'll give them the pin.
• 43:28
  Speaker: And then I just tell everybody, like, no worshipful master
• 43:33
  Speaker: doesn't get anything this time.
• 43:35
  Speaker: This is for the educator.
• 43:38
  Speaker: But a lot of times the, you
• 43:39
  Speaker: know, de facto educator is the
• 43:41
  Speaker: master.
• 43:41
  Speaker: So, uh, they will get the pin.
• 43:44
  Speaker: But I, yeah, I actually, I have.
• 43:46
  Speaker: I keep a copious amount of lapel pins in my apron case.
• 43:50
  Speaker: Um, and I actually, for the last few years have been using them
• 43:54
  Speaker: as, uh, I'll ask trivia questions during presentations
• 43:57
  Speaker: sometimes and I'll use those as like, hey, who got that right?
• 44:00
  Speaker: Throw them a pin.
• 44:01
  Speaker: You did that at my, at my lodge recently.
• 44:05
  Speaker: Yeah, that was awesome.
• 44:08
  Speaker: I think, uh, thank you cards.
• 44:12
  Speaker: I like to have a few thank you cards on hand.
• 44:14
  Speaker: I like to have a couple sympathy cards in my bag.
• 44:17
  Speaker: Also in my briefcase, because I
• 44:20
  Speaker: don't know about you guys, but
• 44:21
  Speaker: I've been to lodges where
• 44:22
  Speaker: they're like, oh, let's send a
• 44:23
  Speaker: card.
• 44:23
  Speaker: And the guy's like, oh, I don't have one, but I'll send one.
• 44:26
  Speaker: And I'll be like, wait, I have one.
• 44:28
  Speaker: And you can all sign it now and you can have it.
• 44:32
  Speaker: That is a hard flex.
• 44:33
  Speaker: I like that.
• 44:34
  Speaker: Nice.
• 44:35
  Speaker: Well, you know, I'm a lot of secretary for for organizations,
• 44:37
  Speaker: which is not a lot compared to some out there.
• 44:40
  Speaker: Like, you know, we're in the
• 44:42
  Speaker: Iron Throne, but should you be
• 44:44
  Speaker: saying that too loudly and too
• 44:45
  Speaker: publicly.
• 44:47
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 44:48
  Speaker: Listen, people know I'm a great secretary.
• 44:54
  Speaker: You know, I'm good at my job.
• 44:55
  Speaker: So it happens, but I. Yeah.
• 45:02
  Speaker: I think Secretary secretly loved being secretaries, I don't.
• 45:05
  Speaker: Everybody's like, oh ho ho!
• 45:07
  Speaker: For eternity.
• 45:09
  Speaker: Get out of here.
• 45:10
  Speaker: We love it.
• 45:12
  Speaker: Here's another thing that, uh,
• 45:15
  Speaker: that I made sure I bring
• 45:17
  Speaker: microfiber cleaning cloth for my
• 45:20
  Speaker: glasses.
• 45:21
  Speaker: Oh, yes.
• 45:25
  Speaker: How many times do you go to clean your glasses with, like,
• 45:27
  Speaker: your tie or something?
• 45:28
  Speaker: If you're wearing a tie and it just makes it worse.
• 45:31
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 45:32
  Speaker: I refuse to do that.
• 45:33
  Speaker: I have these, in fact, I just
• 45:35
  Speaker: got new glasses because I left
• 45:36
  Speaker: my old glasses in California
• 45:38
  Speaker: because I'm stupid and, um, I
• 45:41
  Speaker: asked for.
• 45:42
  Speaker: They literally gave me a handful of brand new microfiber, like
• 45:45
  Speaker: twenty of them.
• 45:46
  Speaker: They just threw them in the bag.
• 45:47
  Speaker: I was like, cool.
• 45:47
  Speaker: So I've got them everywhere now.
• 45:50
  Speaker: Nice.
• 45:51
  Speaker: That is.
• 45:52
  Speaker: Yeah, it's the little things, right?
• 45:53
  Speaker: It's just these little things that the, the smallest
• 45:56
  Speaker: inconvenience, but there are huge inconvenience when you,
• 45:59
  Speaker: when you need them.
• 46:00
  Speaker: Right.
• 46:01
  Speaker: Um, it's like you don't think
• 46:03
  Speaker: about your glasses very often,
• 46:04
  Speaker: but I tell you what, you can't
• 46:06
  Speaker: get away from them if there's a
• 46:08
  Speaker: smudge right in the middle of
• 46:09
  Speaker: them.
• 46:10
  Speaker: That's true.
• 46:11
  Speaker: I mean, like, do I have glaucoma?
• 46:13
  Speaker: Right.
• 46:14
  Speaker: And, you know, just, you know, you kissed your wife or
• 46:16
  Speaker: something and like you got or the cheese on your glasses.
• 46:20
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 46:20
  Speaker: You what?
• 46:22
  Speaker: You know, know that schmutz.
• 46:25
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 46:25
  Speaker: The schmutz.
• 46:27
  Speaker: You get the schmutz on the jammy jam.
• 46:29
  Speaker: Oh, see, I just did it.
• 46:33
  Speaker: Then you gotta sit here and you
• 46:34
  Speaker: gotta fiddle with the damn
• 46:36
  Speaker: things.
• 46:37
  Speaker: I hate glasses anyway.
• 46:41
  Speaker: Yeah, but we're getting too old for Lasik.
• 46:44
  Speaker: Are we, though?
• 46:45
  Speaker: Alex powers?
• 46:47
  Speaker: Alex Powers is getting Lasik.
• 46:49
  Speaker: Mhm.
• 46:51
  Speaker: You probably don't need to talk
• 46:54
  Speaker: about upcoming surgeries of
• 46:56
  Speaker: brothers.
• 46:57
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 46:58
  Speaker: On the YouTube show, it already happened, so.
• 47:01
  Speaker: No.
• 47:02
  Speaker: Okay.
• 47:02
  Speaker: Ooh.
• 47:05
  Speaker: But, uh.
• 47:06
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 47:07
  Speaker: I'm gonna get spectacle wipes.
• 47:11
  Speaker: I'm getting pterodactyl wings
• 47:13
  Speaker: implanted in my shoulders, so
• 47:14
  Speaker: screw you.
• 47:17
  Speaker: Okay.
• 47:17
  Speaker: Why did this.
• 47:18
  Speaker: Why did this turn into, uh, a
• 47:20
  Speaker: fava and, uh, and a thorn
• 47:24
  Speaker: sitting at the at the table in
• 47:26
  Speaker: Super Troopers.
• 47:26
  Speaker: Yeah, well, just, uh, my my car will grow wings and fly away.
• 47:32
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 47:34
  Speaker: Because we're rambling.
• 47:36
  Speaker: I, I want to see your new tattoos when you get them done.
• 47:40
  Speaker: Joe.
• 47:41
  Speaker: Yep.
• 47:41
  Speaker: We got.
• 47:41
  Speaker: Yep.
• 47:42
  Speaker: We're we're we're on the list.
• 47:44
  Speaker: The families.
• 47:44
  Speaker: It's not a medical procedure.
• 47:45
  Speaker: So I talked about it.
• 47:46
  Speaker: Yeah, we're we're, uh, the daughter turned twenty one.
• 47:49
  Speaker: She said, I want tat wife said, me too.
• 47:52
  Speaker: And I said, me three.
• 47:53
  Speaker: So we're we're eventually going to get them this summer.
• 47:58
  Speaker: I was talking about your angel
• 47:59
  Speaker: wings, but yeah, I'll get those
• 48:03
  Speaker: too, with your initials on each
• 48:05
  Speaker: side.
• 48:06
  Speaker: Bing bing.
• 48:07
  Speaker: Ah.
• 48:09
  Speaker: Yep.
• 48:10
  Speaker: I got you then.
• 48:11
  Speaker: Was here in the middle.
• 48:14
  Speaker: Um, you know what's in the middle?
• 48:19
  Speaker: Oh, I have to spend like, five
• 48:21
  Speaker: hours in the car with you on
• 48:22
  Speaker: Saturday.
• 48:23
  Speaker: Indeed, indeed.
• 48:28
  Speaker: Make sure you guys bring all the stuff we talked about.
• 48:30
  Speaker: I was literally going to say none of us are presenting, so.
• 48:33
  Speaker: Oh. Are you are you doing a paper?
• 48:36
  Speaker: No, it's annual meeting.
• 48:38
  Speaker: We can't do papers, so we don't need to bring any of this crap.
• 48:42
  Speaker: Just our happy smiles, our tuxedos, unfortunately.
• 48:45
  Speaker: And tuxedos.
• 48:46
  Speaker: And five hours.
• 48:49
  Speaker: Oof!
• 48:50
  Speaker: I gotta drive five hours tomorrow.
• 48:55
  Speaker: I gotta go to Saint Louis.
• 48:56
  Speaker: I gotta do the Truman lecture.
• 48:58
  Speaker: Oh, nice.
• 48:59
  Speaker: Oh. That's right.
• 49:00
  Speaker: Steve mentioned that he was going to see you.
• 49:02
  Speaker: Yeah, yeah, I'm super excited.
• 49:04
  Speaker: Seeing Steve is awesome.
• 49:06
  Speaker: Yes, I just saw him last week.
• 49:09
  Speaker: Jealous.
• 49:11
  Speaker: And he brings almost all the things that we've talked about
• 49:14
  Speaker: on the show tonight.
• 49:15
  Speaker: Oh, Steve is super prepared.
• 49:18
  Speaker: Like, uh, what do you call those people?
• 49:21
  Speaker: Like a prepper?
• 49:22
  Speaker: He's like a prepper.
• 49:24
  Speaker: Mhm.
• 49:26
  Speaker: Bluetooth speakers named brother Bluetooth.
• 49:29
  Speaker: He's our substitute bagpiper.
• 49:32
  Speaker: Yes.
• 49:34
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 49:35
  Speaker: How many guys do you guys, uh,
• 49:37
  Speaker: how many, uh, lodges have you
• 49:38
  Speaker: been to where that is like
• 49:41
  Speaker: there's a guy who's dedicated
• 49:43
  Speaker: his whole thing is the Bluetooth
• 49:45
  Speaker: speaker and the music for the
• 49:47
  Speaker: lodge, like through processions
• 49:50
  Speaker: and stuff.
• 49:52
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 49:52
  Speaker: I think one of the first guy.
• 49:54
  Speaker: Yeah, one of the first times I went to Joe's Lodge, uh, the
• 49:58
  Speaker: master of your lodge, uh, he did a rendition of a Metallica song.
• 50:08
  Speaker: It's a classical style.
• 50:09
  Speaker: Yeah, yeah, that's Tom.
• 50:11
  Speaker: Yeah, he's our, uh, our lodge DJ
• 50:13
  Speaker: because we don't have a
• 50:14
  Speaker: musician.
• 50:15
  Speaker: It was awesome.
• 50:16
  Speaker: Like full reflection, taking the time to get through it.
• 50:19
  Speaker: It was a lot of fun.
• 50:20
  Speaker: Mhm.
• 50:22
  Speaker: I remember doing a cello version
• 50:24
  Speaker: of welcome to the jungle for the
• 50:27
  Speaker: Patriot Lodge when I was their
• 50:28
  Speaker: musician.
• 50:31
  Speaker: Oh my gosh.
• 50:36
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 50:36
  Speaker: Hey, it is about time for us to wrap up.
• 50:39
  Speaker: For sure.
• 50:40
  Speaker: Yeah, almost an hour on.
• 50:43
  Speaker: So. So, um.
• 50:50
  Speaker: Yes, chaos has abounded this episode thanks to the tower and
• 50:54
  Speaker: John being out.
• 50:56
  Speaker: But we do have time for the final question.
• 50:58
  Speaker: Um. The final question is, is there anything that you never
• 51:10
  Speaker: bring with you?
• 51:13
  Speaker: When you go travel?
• 51:24
  Speaker: Uh. I don't know, that could be so many things.
• 51:31
  Speaker: Wow.
• 51:32
  Speaker: I know it's a terrible last question.
• 51:35
  Speaker: I don't know.
• 51:35
  Speaker: I mean, I think there are like
• 51:36
  Speaker: Masonic items that I'm a lot of
• 51:39
  Speaker: times I choose not to bring, uh,
• 51:41
  Speaker: like I never bring like I'm
• 51:43
  Speaker: supposed to wear my past
• 51:46
  Speaker: district deputy grand master
• 51:47
  Speaker: apron.
• 51:48
  Speaker: I don't on purpose.
• 51:50
  Speaker: Mhm.
• 51:50
  Speaker: I choose never to bring it.
• 51:54
  Speaker: For those, you know, all those all the reasons.
• 51:59
  Speaker: But, you know, I'm trying to
• 52:01
  Speaker: think is is there stuff that
• 52:04
  Speaker: maybe holistic stuff, like a bad
• 52:06
  Speaker: attitude.
• 52:09
  Speaker: Mhm.
• 52:10
  Speaker: Or a communicable disease?
• 52:13
  Speaker: Oh, yeah.
• 52:14
  Speaker: I try not to bring those.
• 52:16
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 52:17
  Speaker: What's the like the average age of gonorrhea of the hand?
• 52:22
  Speaker: I try to skip on that one.
• 52:23
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 52:23
  Speaker: For sure.
• 52:25
  Speaker: Yeah.
• 52:30
  Speaker: All right.
• 52:31
  Speaker: Well, this has been fun.
• 52:35
  Speaker: On that note.
• 52:44
  Speaker: Thank you all so much for staying with us, um, through
• 52:48
  Speaker: this great episode.
• 52:50
  Speaker: Uh, really interesting talking about.
• 52:55
  Speaker: All right, I'm removing Joe from
• 52:57
  Speaker: the stream now because he won't
• 52:58
  Speaker: stop giggling.
• 52:59
  Speaker: Um, thank you all so much for watching.
• 53:03
  Speaker: Keep searching for more light.
• 53:04
  Speaker: Have a great night.
• 53:06
  Speaker: Wow.