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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Does a dead person hold
- 0:10Speaker 1: the key?
- 0:11Speaker 2: Have the answers to a little girl who goes missing
- 0:15Speaker 2: in the middle of the night.
- 0:17Speaker 1: I'm talking about a.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Nine year old little girl de scrub In Sunshine, Asha Degree,
- 0:24Speaker 2: who disappears from her home literally in the middle of
- 0:29Speaker 2: the night. Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you
- 0:33Speaker 2: for being with us.
- 0:35Speaker 3: In the early hours of Valentine's Day. Why does a
- 0:40Speaker 3: nine year old girl leave her home in the middle
- 0:43Speaker 3: of a dark, stormy night?
- 0:47Speaker 2: Why does a nine year old little girl leave home
- 0:50Speaker 2: in the middle of the night.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Now, when we hear.
- 0:54Speaker 2: That happens, I immediately suspect the family because totistically, when
- 1:01Speaker 2: a child goes missing in the.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Middle of the night, you can look right at mommy or.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Daddy or onto your uncle. But I don't believe that's
- 1:09Speaker 2: the case. Here where is Ausha. She had never run
- 1:14Speaker 2: away from home. She had great grades at school. She
- 1:18Speaker 2: was this little star, a star on the basketball court,
- 1:22Speaker 2: very shy everywhere, but the basketball court never gave anybody
- 1:27Speaker 2: a minute's trouble. This little girl has a million dollar smile.
- 1:33Speaker 2: I don't understand what happened to Usha? Joining me right now?
- 1:39Speaker 2: Are two guys that have been on this case. It's
- 1:43Speaker 2: right in their own backyard from the beginning. It's Donnie
- 1:47Speaker 2: Peeler and Dale Champion. And if you're not familiar with them,
- 1:51Speaker 2: I wish that you were, because they are the hosts
- 1:53Speaker 2: of crack House Chronicles. Now, having been to plenty of
- 1:57Speaker 2: crack houses myself as a prosecutor, I have mixed feelings
- 2:01Speaker 2: about the title of your podcast, hosts of crack House
- 2:04Speaker 2: Chronicles true crime podcast.
- 2:07Speaker 1: But what I do like is what they're doing. First
- 2:11Speaker 1: of all, listen to this.
- 2:13Speaker 4: I remember it was roughly about two thirty in the morning.
- 2:18Speaker 4: I seen her go to the bathroom. I remember I
- 2:21Speaker 4: heard her go to the bathroom. She had to pajamas on,
- 2:24Speaker 4: and she goes to the bathroom. I waited her to
- 2:26Speaker 4: come back into the room. She got into bed. I
- 2:29Speaker 4: cut the light off and I went to sleep.
- 2:32Speaker 2: You're seeing a Bryant Degree on Facebook Live. He's talking
- 2:36Speaker 2: about his sister Asha. What more do we know?
- 2:40Speaker 5: The night before Valentine's Day is stormy and shelby. Around
- 2:43Speaker 5: seven pm, the Degree's neighborhood loses power. Equila Degree normally
- 2:48Speaker 5: bays the children before their eight pm bedtime. But with
- 2:50Speaker 5: the power out, she decides to wake them up early
- 2:53Speaker 5: tomorrow for baths before school. Harold Degree gets home from
- 2:56Speaker 5: work around midnight and checks to make sure the children
- 2:59Speaker 5: are asleep. Is still overcoming her fear of the darkened storms.
- 3:03Speaker 5: Harold winds down in front of the TV and checks
- 3:05Speaker 5: on the children again around two AM before going to
- 3:07Speaker 5: bed himself.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Just thinking about this nine year old little girl that
- 3:11Speaker 2: is afraid of lightning and thunder outside, and the mom
- 3:18Speaker 2: making sure they have their bats and they're in their
- 3:20Speaker 2: pjs early on. I can't remember at this age I
- 3:25Speaker 2: would have the children bathed and in their pjs when
- 3:28Speaker 2: we ate supper at night. I'm just imagining little Asia
- 3:32Speaker 2: being afraid of the storm. And listen, I want you
- 3:35Speaker 2: to hear more of what her brother o'bryen says.
- 3:38Speaker 6: So well.
- 3:38Speaker 7: Mother used to knock on the wall to wake us up,
- 3:41Speaker 7: and she was like, y'all get up. She was getting
- 3:45Speaker 7: ready for work and whatnot? She said, or your sister,
- 3:49Speaker 7: I said, she in the bed like you know, playing
- 3:51Speaker 7: at the biddom as sleep. I ain't trying to get up.
- 3:54Speaker 7: I thought my mom just couldn't see my sister like
- 3:56Speaker 7: me and my sister used to sleep with the blanket
- 3:58Speaker 7: poured over our head.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Can't you just imagine that mom in the next room. Okay,
- 4:03Speaker 1: get up, get up, get up.
- 4:05Speaker 2: And there's always such a rush in the mornings when
- 4:08Speaker 2: everybody's trying to go to work and go to school
- 4:10Speaker 2: and get breakfast and make sure all the tea's across
- 4:13Speaker 2: the eyes are dotted before they go out the door.
- 4:16Speaker 2: And that's what was happening that morning. So the brother
- 4:20Speaker 2: O'Brien says, yeah, yeah, she's here.
- 4:21Speaker 1: They shared a.
- 4:22Speaker 2: Room, as my twins did for many many years, as
- 4:25Speaker 2: I did with my sister.
- 4:28Speaker 1: But there is a very subtle but critical fact.
- 4:32Speaker 8: Listen, I get up out of my bed half sleep. Okay, Mom,
- 4:36Speaker 8: maybe she went. Maybe she went in there to eat
- 4:38Speaker 8: breakfast or something. Maybe she woke up barely, because it
- 4:41Speaker 8: wasn't new for us, like we woke up. Really I
- 4:44Speaker 8: thought she was in there eating breakfast. At that point
- 4:47Speaker 8: in time, it was like, what's going on? Like where's Asia,
- 4:51Speaker 8: What's going on?
- 4:51Speaker 2: Where's Asha? And we're still asking that tonight, where is
- 4:56Speaker 2: nine year old Asia? And how oh could a dead
- 5:02Speaker 2: person hold the key to her disappearance? This as in
- 5:07Speaker 2: the last days more search warrants have been executed, and
- 5:14Speaker 2: we see an older model green sedan being towed away.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Now what is an older model Greeen sedan?
- 5:23Speaker 9: There?
- 5:23Speaker 2: It is have to do with Asia disappearing from her
- 5:27Speaker 2: own bed in the middle.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Of the night. Okay, I've got the cart way in
- 5:32Speaker 1: front of the horse.
- 5:33Speaker 2: So let's just start at the beginning, and I'm going
- 5:35Speaker 2: to do that with Donnie Peeler and Deale Champion, who've
- 5:39Speaker 2: been on this case the disappearance of Asia from day one.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Gentlemen, thank you for being with us.
- 5:44Speaker 2: I'll start with you, Donnie, tell me what you understand.
- 5:48Speaker 2: Happened in the morning that her family realized she's not here.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Where's Asha. Let's start right there.
- 5:56Speaker 10: Asha disappeared, her mom got up to give them little bath,
- 5:59Speaker 10: like le Bryant said, and she was gone. Was in
- 6:04Speaker 10: the house, Quilla. The mother was walking the neighborhood calling
- 6:08Speaker 10: for Asia, couldn't find her anywhere. That's when they called
- 6:11Speaker 10: the authorities come in and help the foundation.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Deal Champion joining us from Crackhouse Chronicles. How did you
- 6:17Speaker 2: guys get involved in the case to start with?
- 6:19Speaker 11: Well, that morning, actually going to work, we came down
- 6:23Speaker 11: by the area not knowing what was going on, and
- 6:25Speaker 11: got stopped in a roadblock and I thought it was
- 6:27Speaker 11: like a general license check or something, but actually they
- 6:30Speaker 11: were looking for the little girl. And that was really
- 6:33Speaker 11: a shock to me because it was that morning, nothing
- 6:35Speaker 11: going on. But later on we just kept wondering what
- 6:38Speaker 11: was going on, and then when we started this, this
- 6:40Speaker 11: is just our main, our main thing to find out
- 6:43Speaker 11: what's going on with her and do as much as
- 6:44Speaker 11: we could to figure out, you know, or just keep
- 6:47Speaker 11: it in the news, you know.
- 6:47Speaker 2: So you were actually Deal Champion partnered with Donnie peel
- 6:51Speaker 2: Or on the case Deal Champion, You were actually stopped
- 6:54Speaker 2: in a roadblock.
- 6:55Speaker 12: Yes, ma'am.
- 6:55Speaker 11: We were headed work. We had to be at work
- 6:58Speaker 11: at seven and so I would come through there. It's
- 7:01Speaker 11: probably a quarter two and uh. Yeah, the police were
- 7:04Speaker 11: stopping everybody coming down to the Highway eighteen right there
- 7:07Speaker 11: and checking the cars and asking if you had seen anything.
- 7:09Speaker 11: They were looking for a little girls.
- 7:11Speaker 1: So they told you why they pulled you over, right.
- 7:13Speaker 11: Dal Yeah, they were having a roadblock. They stopped everybody
- 7:15Speaker 11: it was coming down through there.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Yeah, what would they say? What did they say to
- 7:18Speaker 1: you and they pulled you over?
- 7:19Speaker 11: Well, they just stopped because and I was trying to
- 7:22Speaker 11: dig to get my license out, and they go, no,
- 7:24Speaker 11: we don't need that. We've had a girl disappeared this morning.
- 7:26Speaker 11: And they were looking as they were talking to us,
- 7:28Speaker 11: you know, of course they're looking in the back seats
- 7:30Speaker 11: and stuff car. And they just said they wanted to
- 7:32Speaker 11: know if we had saw anything or you know, while
- 7:34Speaker 11: we were coming down the road on each side of
- 7:35Speaker 11: the road or why not.
- 7:37Speaker 2: In addition to Donnie Peeler and Deale Champion from Crackhouse Chronicles,
- 7:41Speaker 2: True Crime special guest, Mark Davis is with US former
- 7:45Speaker 2: sergeant supervisor and Patrol Division with Cleveland County Sheriffs.
- 7:51Speaker 1: The third officer on.
- 7:53Speaker 2: The scene, Mark Davis, thank you for making time for
- 7:56Speaker 2: us tonight. Mark Davis, tell me what you recollect from
- 7:58Speaker 2: the scene.
- 7:59Speaker 12: You know, I got to call early that morning the
- 8:03Speaker 12: parents said the child was missing. I sent two deputies
- 8:07Speaker 12: initially to respond to the house and began our investigation.
- 8:12Speaker 12: They called me shortly thereafter and said, you know, they
- 8:15Speaker 12: had searched the house physically and we couldn't find the child.
- 8:18Speaker 12: So I immediately started getting the resources on the ground
- 8:22Speaker 12: that I needed to search for the child. And within
- 8:27Speaker 12: an hour an hour and a half, I had over
- 8:30Speaker 12: one hundred people on the ground starting in search.
- 8:33Speaker 2: Mark Davis, what was your understanding as to have you
- 8:38Speaker 2: know the first thing we have to do the first thing,
- 8:40Speaker 2: and this is based on statistics. Has has nothing to
- 8:44Speaker 2: do with the nature or character of the family. You know,
- 8:48Speaker 2: doesn't matter if they are nuns and priests and virgins,
- 8:52Speaker 2: or if they grew up in a crack house.
- 8:55Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You look first at the family.
- 8:59Speaker 2: You look at them, you look at their stories, you
- 9:01Speaker 2: separate them, you get their stories.
- 9:03Speaker 1: Then you look at.
- 9:04Speaker 2: The stories you overlay to see if they all match
- 9:06Speaker 2: or if they generally match, because they're going to be
- 9:08Speaker 2: different in a few minor inconsequential ways. You look at
- 9:12Speaker 2: the scene, You look at the home, you look at
- 9:14Speaker 2: the bed, you look at the door.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Everything. You look to see if there's social media.
- 9:19Speaker 2: If the if the child has a phone, or if
- 9:21Speaker 2: they have social media, All of that matters. Do they
- 9:23Speaker 2: take a bag or is the window open, is the
- 9:26Speaker 2: window cracked? Has there been a forced entry? All of
- 9:29Speaker 2: that place into your deduction. So tell me what was observed.
- 9:35Speaker 2: I want to hear first about the demeanor of the family.
- 9:39Speaker 12: The family, the mother and father was as what you
- 9:43Speaker 12: would expect having a nine year old child missing. The
- 9:46Speaker 12: mother was, you know, highly upset, you know, making phone calls,
- 9:52Speaker 12: talking to neighbors, talking to people that lived around them,
- 9:55Speaker 12: and family members involved getting everything going for us. They
- 9:59Speaker 12: were very cool, co operative with law enforcement. The father
- 10:03Speaker 12: you could tell her he had his own deep concerns
- 10:06Speaker 12: about his daughter being missing. The household was I lived
- 10:12Speaker 12: in household, but a clean household. I wouldn't mind sitting
- 10:16Speaker 12: down in the house and having a meal. It was
- 10:19Speaker 12: what you would expect for our house with two children.
- 10:22Speaker 12: The parents cooperated with us fully that morning, which you know,
- 10:29Speaker 12: but as you say, we always have things that we
- 10:32Speaker 12: have to question, and we began questioning those parents, and
- 10:36Speaker 12: you know you always look at the family first. But
- 10:39Speaker 12: every time that we questioned everything that we went into
- 10:42Speaker 12: that morning, the parents were cooperative. The parents were compliant,
- 10:47Speaker 12: They assisted us every way they could. They wanted to
- 10:50Speaker 12: find their little girl.
- 10:51Speaker 2: Well, it tells me a lot straight out to Renow psychologist,
- 10:55Speaker 2: TV radio trauma expert Karen Start, you can find her
- 10:59Speaker 2: at Karen'star Karen with the Sea by the way. If
- 11:02Speaker 2: you're looking for her, Karen Stark, as you and I
- 11:06Speaker 2: both know you look at the family first, then you
- 11:09Speaker 2: go out.
- 11:09Speaker 1: You look at then the aunties, then the uncles, and.
- 11:12Speaker 2: The cousins, and the grown cousins, then the neighbors, then
- 11:16Speaker 2: the teachers.
- 11:17Speaker 1: That's how it works.
- 11:19Speaker 2: If you want to find this child alive, that's where
- 11:21Speaker 2: you start, whether anybody likes it or not. But in
- 11:25Speaker 2: every case where I've seen a child missing, you don't
- 11:29Speaker 2: see mommy running up and down the street, banging on
- 11:34Speaker 2: doors herself trying to find the child along with the dad,
- 11:39Speaker 2: completely cooperative. That normally doesn't happen when we later find
- 11:45Speaker 2: out the parents are responsible.
- 11:47Speaker 1: So just at first blush, that tells me a lot.
- 11:50Speaker 6: Karen Stark, Well, it tells you that our usual suspects,
- 11:54Speaker 6: the people that would be closest to her, where everyone
- 11:57Speaker 6: would look, they're not going to be the people that
- 12:01Speaker 6: need to be found. They are the people that actually
- 12:04Speaker 6: are concerned about what happened. They don't have answers. So
- 12:08Speaker 6: it's really clear that we have to look someplace else
- 12:11Speaker 6: because where is Asia. Nobody in the family has done anything,
- 12:16Speaker 6: and she just disappeared in the middle of the night.
- 12:19Speaker 2: This little girl seemingly disappears in the middle of the night.
- 12:22Speaker 2: And let me understand something. Markin Davis, former sergeant supervisor
- 12:26Speaker 2: in the Patrol Division, third officer on the scene, has
- 12:29Speaker 2: one hundred guys on the ground within I would say
- 12:32Speaker 2: an hour after this child is reported missing.
- 12:35Speaker 1: He observed the parents.
- 12:37Speaker 2: He observed their emotions near hysterical, the mom looking for her,
- 12:44Speaker 2: and the father's deep concern the home was not awry.
- 12:49Speaker 1: Their stories matched.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Tell me something, Mark Davis, When you have all the
- 12:55Speaker 2: guys looking for her, what exactly were they doing? Now
- 13:00Speaker 2: we know what times you went to bed, and what
- 13:03Speaker 2: time do the guys start their foot searches.
- 13:06Speaker 12: Within a half hour of me being there, I had
- 13:09Speaker 12: a one of our canine officers on the scene began
- 13:13Speaker 12: to search with our canines. You know, we're doing you know,
- 13:17Speaker 12: like you heard from Donnie and them. We're stopping cars
- 13:20Speaker 12: on the main highway next to it. We're doing everything
- 13:24Speaker 12: that we can to find this little girl. You know,
- 13:28Speaker 12: the early hours are the most precious time, so we
- 13:32Speaker 12: were frantically working. You know, we have a emergency services
- 13:38Speaker 12: in our county that works with us closely. I had
- 13:41Speaker 12: them get fire department rescue on the way with the
- 13:44Speaker 12: search teams things like that, to have those people on
- 13:48Speaker 12: the ground to help us. So, you know, we were
- 13:51Speaker 12: cording it off the area. We were moving the search
- 13:54Speaker 12: and zones out as you know, the limits as far
- 13:57Speaker 12: as at least within a mile to start with, you know,
- 14:00Speaker 12: the first mile of that area to you know, start
- 14:04Speaker 12: you know, ground searchers for asia degree. You know, we
- 14:08Speaker 12: we still didn't know our canine hit hit on a track,
- 14:12Speaker 12: it went a direction and after a short while it
- 14:15Speaker 12: lost the track. And but you know, I was trying
- 14:19Speaker 12: to get all of my resources in place to search
- 14:22Speaker 12: for her within that neighborhood.
- 14:25Speaker 2: Joining me Rick Schaefer, former FBI Supervisory Special Agent Rick Schaefer. Normally,
- 14:31Speaker 2: when a child goes missing, you hear me screaming about
- 14:36Speaker 2: why didn't they issue an ambrelord?
- 14:37Speaker 1: Why didn't they do this? That, this the other thing.
- 14:40Speaker 2: I'm on them, you know, like a cheap suit. But
- 14:45Speaker 2: Rick Schaeffer, I can't go there today. I can't rage
- 14:48Speaker 2: at what was done wrong because everything Mark Davis is
- 14:51Speaker 2: saying it happened. They got the canines out, they got
- 14:55Speaker 2: one hundred guys going door to door doing grid searches. Immediately,
- 15:01Speaker 2: he had guys out there pulling over cars, as you
- 15:05Speaker 2: heard deal Champion saying, at six o'clock in the morning,
- 15:09Speaker 2: six point thirty, trying.
- 15:10Speaker 1: To find Asia.
- 15:12Speaker 2: I can't think at this juncture in the search of
- 15:15Speaker 2: anything else they could have done.
- 15:17Speaker 1: They were doing it all.
- 15:19Speaker 13: That's correct they did.
- 15:21Speaker 1: It was commendable.
- 15:22Speaker 13: When we arrived there, the police department, the Sheriff's department
- 15:26Speaker 13: had literally cultivated an army of not only law enforcement,
- 15:30Speaker 13: but neighbors and citizens that were searching areas, knocking on doors.
- 15:37Speaker 13: It was a remarkable response in a very short period
- 15:41Speaker 13: of time. When I talked to Sheriff Crawford at the time,
- 15:45Speaker 13: he asked if we could provide any resources to help,
- 15:49Speaker 13: and absolutely we said we would give him whatever we needed.
- 15:52Speaker 13: We sent evidence response teams down there to help look
- 15:57Speaker 13: inside the home. We had agents on the seat with
- 16:00Speaker 13: the Sheriff's Department to help them conduct any interviews, searches.
- 16:06Speaker 13: We provided every resource we could because it was unimaginable
- 16:12Speaker 13: that this beautiful little nine year old girl ventured out
- 16:15Speaker 13: of her house in the wee hours of the morning
- 16:19Speaker 13: in a very difficult environment. It was cold and raining
- 16:24Speaker 13: in February, and it was just unimaginable that she voluntarily
- 16:29Speaker 13: left that house and took the risk by herself at
- 16:34Speaker 13: nine years old to just venture out.
- 16:42Speaker 3: A devoted father checks on his two children before going
- 16:46Speaker 3: to sleep. By the morning, his daughter is gone.
- 16:51Speaker 2: Joining us an All Star Panels trade bakeout to Dale Champion,
- 16:53Speaker 2: Donnie Peel or Dale Champion.
- 16:56Speaker 1: Is this real?
- 16:58Speaker 2: Because I'm hearing not just one witness, but multiple witnesses,
- 17:03Speaker 2: more than one witness not connected to each other, state
- 17:09Speaker 2: they see a girl matching Asia's description walking along Highway eighteen?
- 17:17Speaker 1: Is this true? Dale Champion?
- 17:20Speaker 11: As far as we know it is true. There was
- 17:22Speaker 11: a guy, his name was Jeff Ruth. He was a
- 17:25Speaker 11: driver for Sundrop Incorporated, or Choice Drinks, and he said
- 17:29Speaker 11: that he did see her and actually had turned his
- 17:31Speaker 11: vehicle around, not once but twice to come back and
- 17:35Speaker 11: actually see her. And there was a lawyer who's doing
- 17:38Speaker 11: some stuff on this, and he said he's actually talked
- 17:40Speaker 11: to Jeff and he the guy is one percent sure
- 17:44Speaker 11: that he saw and even there was a moment where
- 17:46Speaker 11: they locked eyes and this guy can't get it out
- 17:48Speaker 11: of his head and.
- 17:49Speaker 12: He knows it was her.
- 17:50Speaker 2: Okay, you know what to Donnie Peeler, when you have
- 17:55Speaker 2: more than one witness say the same thing, or Donnie Peeler,
- 18:00Speaker 2: I'm sure you've learned on crackhouse chronicles. When a witness
- 18:04Speaker 2: has a level of detail, a story that is rich
- 18:10Speaker 2: in detail. For instance, that he actually locked eyes with
- 18:14Speaker 2: the girl. That's a detail you don't usually hear from
- 18:17Speaker 2: a liar. I mean you can, but details like that,
- 18:21Speaker 2: details like I've never been able to get it out
- 18:23Speaker 2: of my mind. Details like I turned back around and
- 18:25Speaker 2: looked at her. I'm sure it was her. Those are
- 18:30Speaker 2: details that enhance the credibility of the witness. And Donnie Peeler,
- 18:35Speaker 2: I'm understanding more than one witness saw her. Is that
- 18:38Speaker 2: correct to your understanding?
- 18:40Speaker 10: Oh? Absolutely, Nancy. There was another drug driver as a
- 18:43Speaker 10: father and son due of boy Blanton and Boyl, they
- 18:49Speaker 10: claimed that they had spotted it. A boyd Blator is
- 18:55Speaker 10: actually a former County Debbie. I would say he's the
- 19:00Speaker 10: credible what he saw that morning.
- 19:03Speaker 2: To Kathleen Murphy joining us now special guest out of
- 19:06Speaker 2: North Carolina Attorney Triangle, divorce lawyers who seen many, many
- 19:11Speaker 2: many custody disputes, custody kidnaps, children going missing. I don't
- 19:17Speaker 2: get any sense that the parents had anything at all
- 19:21Speaker 2: to do with this disappearance, based on many, many different
- 19:26Speaker 2: pieces of evidence, specifically and most thoroughly convincing more than
- 19:31Speaker 2: one eyewitness.
- 19:33Speaker 1: Stating they saw her on Highway eighteen that morning.
- 19:36Speaker 14: Well, one of the indicators is is this child been
- 19:40Speaker 14: kidnapped by one parent or another, and when the parents
- 19:43Speaker 14: are in separate homes, that increases the likelihood of that occurring.
- 19:46Speaker 14: That was not the case with these two parents. They
- 19:48Speaker 14: were in a dual family home, they had credibility when
- 19:52Speaker 14: they were answering the specific question separately, and so there's
- 19:56Speaker 14: absolutely no credible evidence that, in fact evidence to the
- 19:59Speaker 14: co trade that they were involved with her walking down
- 20:03Speaker 14: the road on eighteen and being seen by multiple witnesses.
- 20:06Speaker 1: Now, listen to what we learned about this witness.
- 20:09Speaker 15: There was a gentleman there that said he was on
- 20:11Speaker 15: his way to work that morning and he sees Asha
- 20:15Speaker 15: walking down the side of the road. He's sort of
- 20:17Speaker 15: in disbelief. You know, what's that small child doing on
- 20:20Speaker 15: the road this time in the morning. So he turned
- 20:22Speaker 15: around and proceeded back up eighteen at the slower pace
- 20:26Speaker 15: he came up, and you know, seeing the little girl
- 20:29Speaker 15: still walking south on eighteen and Rody's window down and
- 20:33Speaker 15: then said, hey, do you need help? And when you did,
- 20:37Speaker 15: she began to move down off the road. She didn't
- 20:39Speaker 15: really run, but she wouldn't letting grass grow under her
- 20:43Speaker 15: feet either.
- 20:43Speaker 2: You are hearing more elaboration by sergeants supervisor that morning,
- 20:50Speaker 2: Mark Davis as he's speaking on Craickhouse Chronicles. And you know,
- 20:54Speaker 2: Mark Davis, the way you put it right there, I
- 20:56Speaker 2: find it really interesting because when you first told me
- 20:59Speaker 2: that truck driver turned around, I wondered, well, what happened
- 21:04Speaker 2: when he turned around? Because if I were a little
- 21:07Speaker 2: girl on side of the road and somebody I didn't
- 21:09Speaker 2: know turned around and came back towards me, I'd take
- 21:11Speaker 2: off running.
- 21:12Speaker 1: And that sounds like what Asha.
- 21:13Speaker 12: Did pretty much. Yeah. I mean, you know, when he
- 21:17Speaker 12: approached her, she became suspicious, cautious and moved down off
- 21:23Speaker 12: the side of the road.
- 21:24Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I'm thinking about, Donnie Peeler and
- 21:26Speaker 2: Dale Champion.
- 21:28Speaker 1: You know, she was a.
- 21:30Speaker 2: Great little fireball on the basketball court, very shy at
- 21:36Speaker 2: school and outside of the home. Not shy at home,
- 21:40Speaker 2: but anywhere outside the home. Extremely shy, but an incredible
- 21:46Speaker 2: basketball player. I wonder if she was lured by somebody
- 21:53Speaker 2: saying they could make her a basketball star, a phenom,
- 21:57Speaker 2: but she couldn't tell her parents or they wouldn't let
- 21:59Speaker 2: her go. I'm just looking at every angle I can
- 22:02Speaker 2: imagine Dale Champion.
- 22:03Speaker 11: Yeah, that's the big question, Nancy. Why was she outside
- 22:06Speaker 11: the house to begin with for all this to happen?
- 22:09Speaker 11: And that's that's the thing we can't we can't get
- 22:11Speaker 11: a grasp on It's hard for us to wrap a
- 22:13Speaker 11: brain around something. Why would she be outside in the
- 22:15Speaker 11: first place? And we've looked at so many angles and
- 22:19Speaker 11: we still can't make sense of it.
- 22:21Speaker 2: So to you, Rick Schaeffer joining US former FBI special agent,
- 22:25Speaker 2: I know the FBI is now involved and as a
- 22:28Speaker 2: matter of fact, has recently executed search warrants. They made
- 22:34Speaker 2: it very clear, it was made clear, if there was a spokesperson,
- 22:38Speaker 2: that no human remains were found. But we've been told
- 22:42Speaker 2: that there is direct evidence linking the disappearance of Asia
- 22:47Speaker 2: Degree to the location at which they executed the search warrant.
- 22:52Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to figure out who knew this
- 22:56Speaker 2: child well enough to lure her from the home. She
- 22:59Speaker 2: didn't tell her brother, which is very surprising. She told nobody,
- 23:04Speaker 2: and then when a stranger came to pick her up,
- 23:07Speaker 2: came back towards her, she ran. So it's not like
- 23:10Speaker 2: she was trying to hitch a ride and get away
- 23:12Speaker 2: from home. She was going to meet somebody. If it
- 23:16Speaker 2: were just an issue of her running away, then she
- 23:20Speaker 2: would have hitched your ride.
- 23:21Speaker 13: That's correct, And we looked at it from a number
- 23:23Speaker 13: of different perspectives. I mean, when we first got there,
- 23:25Speaker 13: obviously we wanted to take a look at the family.
- 23:28Speaker 13: As you suggested, we did a very thorough search of
- 23:32Speaker 13: the house. We found no indication of anything that looked
- 23:36Speaker 13: like substance abuse or problems inside the home. The parents
- 23:42Speaker 13: acted accordingly. They were very upset. The mother was particularly
- 23:47Speaker 13: distraught as she had run through the neighborhood trying to
- 23:52Speaker 13: locate her daughter. We interviewed the son, I think he
- 23:56Speaker 13: was ten years old at the time, but you know,
- 23:58Speaker 13: obviously in the presence of a parent, to try and
- 24:00Speaker 13: see if we could garner any additional information. But he
- 24:05Speaker 13: indicated that he saw her as she went up to
- 24:07Speaker 13: go to the bathroom and then went back to sleep.
- 24:10Speaker 13: We were obviously perplexed over the fact that you have
- 24:13Speaker 13: this beautiful little girl at nine years old? What would
- 24:17Speaker 13: cause her to leave the house not in the middle
- 24:21Speaker 13: of the day, but in the middle of the night
- 24:24Speaker 13: and take off walking down the street.
- 24:27Speaker 3: A worried family frantically searches for their missing little girl,
- 24:32Speaker 3: who they last saw safe and sound sleeping in her room.
- 24:37Speaker 2: What does a late model green sedan have to do
- 24:40Speaker 2: with Asia's disappearance?
- 24:41Speaker 1: And what did candy rappers have to do with her disappearance?
- 24:44Speaker 10: Listen it was a couple days later candy wrappers were
- 24:47Speaker 10: found in a shad behind turn her upholstery, candy rappers,
- 24:53Speaker 10: a pencil marker.
- 24:54Speaker 11: And even a Mickey Mouse hairbow.
- 24:56Speaker 7: It was hers.
- 24:57Speaker 10: Students at False Familiminary school confirmed that those were the
- 25:01Speaker 10: same type of candy that were given out as Valentine.
- 25:05Speaker 1: Treats to the rest of the class. So those were
- 25:10Speaker 1: confirmed as her items were they?
- 25:13Speaker 2: Was it her Mickey Mouse a paraphernalia? Were those her
- 25:16Speaker 2: candy wrappers? Why was she and the shed eating candy
- 25:20Speaker 2: or was that just thrown in the shed? Later with
- 25:23Speaker 2: me an all Star panel, but first out to Donnie
- 25:25Speaker 2: Peeler and deal Champion what about it, Donnie Peeler, that stuff.
- 25:29Speaker 10: Found in that shed, Nancy, it could possibly be her stuff.
- 25:31Speaker 10: The kids at the school identified it possibly being stuff
- 25:35Speaker 10: that given them at school. But from my understanding too
- 25:41Speaker 10: that those sheds were right there at that upholstery stop too,
- 25:45Speaker 10: and some of that stuff could have fell out of
- 25:47Speaker 10: furniture there. That was always back in my mind. You know,
- 25:53Speaker 10: it's just crazy thing that she would be that far
- 25:56Speaker 10: off the road.
- 25:57Speaker 2: Another saying, Donnie Peeler could easily have been other children
- 26:02Speaker 2: playing in that shed after school.
- 26:04Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know that. We don't have a
- 26:06Speaker 1: DNA match.
- 26:06Speaker 2: We don't know how to link that back to her,
- 26:09Speaker 2: and I wonder where that shed is in relation to
- 26:12Speaker 2: where she was spotted on the road. Another question to you,
- 26:16Speaker 2: let me go to you, Donnie Dell Champion. Is it
- 26:19Speaker 2: true that, according to a report, I found Asha had
- 26:26Speaker 2: money and a wallet at school before she disappeared.
- 26:29Speaker 11: I do know that SHD is a couple hundred yards
- 26:32Speaker 11: off the road. It's not real close.
- 26:36Speaker 10: You can't even say it from the road hardly, Okay.
- 26:38Speaker 2: Straight out to Karen Stark joining us who has been
- 26:40Speaker 2: researching and studying the case.
- 26:43Speaker 1: Karen stark.
- 26:44Speaker 2: I'm almost convinced that she packed a few things in
- 26:49Speaker 2: that backpack.
- 26:50Speaker 1: What do we know.
- 26:51Speaker 6: She packed some of her favorite outfits. And if you
- 26:55Speaker 6: think about this, Nancy, it's pouring outside. This is a
- 26:59Speaker 6: shy little girl, very obedient. She does not put on
- 27:02Speaker 6: a rain coat protect herself from the rain. She packed
- 27:06Speaker 6: some of her favorite outfits, but nothing that will keep
- 27:09Speaker 6: her warm or sustain her. And then she walks out
- 27:12Speaker 6: in the rain. Totally uncharacteristic for this nine year old.
- 27:17Speaker 16: A complete mystery, completely and I've been looking for any
- 27:21Speaker 16: upheaval in her life or any signs that she was upset.
- 27:25Speaker 16: This is the only thing I found. Listen to her brother.
- 27:28Speaker 4: Only thing that she was even upset about at the
- 27:32Speaker 4: time that we knew was that she had lost her
- 27:35Speaker 4: championship basketball game. The championship games was that weekend. That Saturday.
- 27:40Speaker 4: She was one of the star players on her team.
- 27:43Speaker 4: Her team was in a dog fight of a game
- 27:46Speaker 4: and she ended up filing out, and she felt that
- 27:50Speaker 4: she let her teammates down. But by the time my
- 27:53Speaker 4: game started, which was like an hour or maybe a
- 27:56Speaker 4: hour or two hours later, like she had that genuine
- 28:02Speaker 4: smiled as she always wore.
- 28:03Speaker 2: So I'm trying to figure out Kathleen Murphy joining us
- 28:08Speaker 2: a high profile lawyer out of North Carolina triangle divorce.
- 28:12Speaker 2: What would that have to do, if anything, with her
- 28:17Speaker 2: getting a few of her favorite outfits and leaving in
- 28:20Speaker 2: the middle of the night, not telling the brother that
- 28:23Speaker 2: we just saw O'Brien, not telling her parents.
- 28:26Speaker 1: What could have lured her out? Was it in connection
- 28:31Speaker 1: to her basketball career?
- 28:33Speaker 2: Did someone tell this nine year old little girl they
- 28:36Speaker 2: could make her a basketball star.
- 28:38Speaker 14: I don't know the identity of the person in the
- 28:42Speaker 14: search warrant, and so once you know the identity of
- 28:45Speaker 14: the person in the search warrant, you may be able
- 28:47Speaker 14: to tie it to some connection with Asha. It could
- 28:51Speaker 14: be a connection with basketball, like you said. But I
- 28:54Speaker 14: have a seven year old grandson. He would never go
- 28:57Speaker 14: out in the ring. He would never go out in
- 29:00Speaker 14: the middle of the night, that seven to nine year
- 29:02Speaker 14: old age. It's very concerning why she would actually put
- 29:06Speaker 14: herself in the middle of nighttime rainstorms without any protection.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
- 29:24Speaker 9: They were making an access road right here, there's a
- 29:29Speaker 9: log cabin up on the hill and they were cutting
- 29:33Speaker 9: this access road going to that cabin and that's where
- 29:38Speaker 9: they found her book bag back in there.
- 29:41Speaker 17: More than a year later, pacious backpack turned up into
- 29:43Speaker 17: construction site thirty miles away. It raised new questions but
- 29:48Speaker 17: yielded few clues about the missing girls whereabouts.
- 29:51Speaker 1: A search was done in that area, same type of situation.
- 29:55Speaker 13: People were interviewed, evidence was collected and sent all and
- 29:59Speaker 13: until this day a she's still not been located.
- 30:01Speaker 2: We're getting that information from the FBI. Mark Davis with
- 30:04Speaker 2: a sergeant supervisor on the case at the time, Well,
- 30:07Speaker 2: can you tell me about the location of the book
- 30:09Speaker 2: bag and are we sure it's acious?
- 30:11Speaker 12: Yes, I know, it's been confirmed it was Asia's book bag.
- 30:16Speaker 12: They released some of the items and told to some
- 30:20Speaker 12: of the items once again, this is almost a year
- 30:24Speaker 12: into the investigation before they released what was some of
- 30:28Speaker 12: the items into the book bag, but it was confirmed
- 30:32Speaker 12: it was hers and it was north of where she
- 30:36Speaker 12: lived on High eighteen, approximately twenty to thirty miles away
- 30:42Speaker 12: good Gravy.
- 30:43Speaker 2: So somebody had to take her or her book bag
- 30:47Speaker 2: by vehicle by vehicle, and that's where the green sedan
- 30:54Speaker 2: may come in.
- 30:55Speaker 1: Listen.
- 30:56Speaker 17: Investigators published images of a car that may have picked
- 30:59Speaker 17: up a show. They believe it was a nineteen seventies
- 31:02Speaker 17: model Lincoln Continental Mark four or a Ford Thunderbird with
- 31:06Speaker 17: rust around the wheel. Wells investigators revealed two items found
- 31:10Speaker 17: anacious book bag, a Doctor SEUs children's book from her
- 31:13Speaker 17: school library Mcgelligan's pool and a new Kid's on the
- 31:17Speaker 17: Block concert T shirt which didn't belong to Asia.
- 31:20Speaker 2: Okay, that's a mind twister right there, Mark Davis. So
- 31:23Speaker 2: a school book at Doctor Seuss book from her school
- 31:27Speaker 2: from her school library, and a T shirt that did
- 31:30Speaker 2: not belong to her.
- 31:31Speaker 1: What do you make of it? Mark Davis?
- 31:33Speaker 12: It's one of those situations that you know, we couldn't
- 31:36Speaker 12: decipher it either. You know, you know, while I was
- 31:40Speaker 12: it there, there was a lot of things. There were
- 31:42Speaker 12: a lot of questions. This is far past the point
- 31:45Speaker 12: that I was in an investigation, involved in the investigation,
- 31:48Speaker 12: but you know, there was speculation on all of us
- 31:51Speaker 12: as far for as officers went. You know, what did
- 31:54Speaker 12: it mean? And as far as I know, that's never
- 31:58Speaker 12: really been answered.
- 32:00Speaker 2: Somebody gave her the T shirt because Rick Schaeffer joining
- 32:04Speaker 2: US former FBI special agent. If someone is luring her,
- 32:09Speaker 2: then I could understand somebody giving her a T shirt
- 32:12Speaker 2: that her parents don't even know about.
- 32:14Speaker 13: Well, that's correct. In fact, one of the things that
- 32:16Speaker 13: we looked at was through the Probation Parole office is
- 32:20Speaker 13: the current sexual offenders registry. It wasn't digitized in electronic
- 32:27Speaker 13: format it is now, but when we were provided it,
- 32:30Speaker 13: we started a pin map and we were shocked at
- 32:34Speaker 13: the number of people within a close proximity to Asia's
- 32:37Speaker 13: home that had been involved in being considered an individual
- 32:43Speaker 13: placed on the sexual offenders registry. And as a result
- 32:46Speaker 13: of that, we conducted numerous interviews with people that had
- 32:52Speaker 13: been convicted and had either relocated or currently living in
- 32:57Speaker 13: the Cleveland County area.
- 32:58Speaker 1: And back to the search.
- 33:01Speaker 2: In the last days, a search has gone down directly
- 33:04Speaker 2: connected to Asha's disappearance listen.
- 33:07Speaker 5: The Cleveland County Sheriff's Office has now confirmed that a
- 33:10Speaker 5: search of six to twenty one Cherryville Road is connected
- 33:12Speaker 5: to asia degree. Nearly fifty investigators with the Cleveland County Sheriffs,
- 33:16Speaker 5: the FBI Evidence Response Team, and North Carolina SBI agents
- 33:20Speaker 5: spend two days at the property with canines and multiple
- 33:23Speaker 5: items of interest or sees for testing. Investigators have not
- 33:26Speaker 5: revealed what those items are, but have said the search
- 33:29Speaker 5: warrants were obtained based on physical evidence directly connected to
- 33:32Speaker 5: Asha's disappearance and the green sedan.
- 33:34Speaker 18: Listen on the second day of the search at a
- 33:37Speaker 18: home on Cherryville Road, four miles from Asia degrees, home,
- 33:40Speaker 18: investigators moved to a second location, a home on the
- 33:42Speaker 18: corner of Cherryville and Rollingwood Drive. Agents are seen going
- 33:46Speaker 18: into the home and walking in and out of a
- 33:49Speaker 18: fenced area behind the home. Minutes later, a flatbed tow
- 33:52Speaker 18: truck arrives to the property. When it leaves, it's carrying
- 33:55Speaker 18: a green four door sedan with rust in the wheel
- 33:58Speaker 18: wells extreme similar to the car the FBI has been
- 34:02Speaker 18: looking for.
- 34:03Speaker 2: Dale Champion, joining us from crack House Chronicles along with
- 34:06Speaker 2: partner Donnie peel Or. Dale Champion tell me about this
- 34:09Speaker 2: recent FBI search and the vehicle.
- 34:11Speaker 11: Yeah, they came in I think it was Tuesday, and
- 34:13Speaker 11: they just fawned this place, come in and rumors were
- 34:17Speaker 11: find what was going on, and it was coming out
- 34:18Speaker 11: saying that it was about Asia. So everybody's just got
- 34:21Speaker 11: more hyped up. And then it kind of switched or
- 34:23Speaker 11: the rumors were saying other things. So we didn't know.
- 34:26Speaker 11: Then they put out the press release saying it was
- 34:28Speaker 11: definitely connected to Asia, and then they pulled this green
- 34:30Speaker 11: car out and after that everything got really tight. Lift
- 34:34Speaker 11: I think they put the gag on anybody around that
- 34:37Speaker 11: had anything to do with So it's been very quiet
- 34:39Speaker 11: ever since then. But I think they're supposed to release
- 34:42Speaker 11: the Daffi Davids on these search warrants this week, possibly today.
- 34:46Speaker 2: Joining us now Crime online dot Com investigative reporter Sydney Center, Sydney,
- 34:50Speaker 2: we now learn that there are updates in the case.
- 34:54Speaker 2: As we go to air, I'm learning about a search warrant.
- 34:57Speaker 1: What can you tell me, Nancy?
- 34:59Speaker 19: Yes, So we got hundreds of pages of documents relating
- 35:02Speaker 19: to eight search warrants tied to Asia degrees disappearance. Investigators
- 35:07Speaker 19: have released both the probable cause applications, the probable cause
- 35:13Speaker 19: applications for these search warrants and the returns. So we
- 35:17Speaker 19: now know that they are searching properties tied to Roy
- 35:21Speaker 19: and Connie Deadman, which seemingly have no connection to Ashia's disappearance.
- 35:28Speaker 19: So how they tied the Deadman's to Asia was her
- 35:32Speaker 19: backpack located about six miles south of Morganton, North Carolina.
- 35:37Speaker 19: This is nearly thirty miles away from Asia's home. That
- 35:40Speaker 19: backpack discovered a year.
- 35:42Speaker 2: Hold on sid you're talking about deadman's home, and isn't
- 35:47Speaker 2: that less than four miles from where Asia was last seen?
- 35:53Speaker 19: That is correct, Nancy, So their home, the property is
- 35:56Speaker 19: to properties that were searched. The dead Men's owned a
- 36:00Speaker 19: nursing home facility in Vale, North Carolina, and frequently took
- 36:05Speaker 19: patients up to Broughton Hospital in Morganton. So they frequently
- 36:10Speaker 19: traveled along Highway eighteen, passing Asia's home, passing.
- 36:16Speaker 1: Let me understand what you're saying said.
- 36:18Speaker 2: You're saying that the deadmans owned a nursing home and
- 36:22Speaker 2: they would take patients back and forth up Highway eighteen,
- 36:26Speaker 2: which is where a Sha was last seen walking right.
- 36:29Speaker 19: Correct, correct, and where her backpack was found just six
- 36:33Speaker 19: miles south of Morganton. So the real connection is that backpack.
- 36:38Speaker 19: That backpack was found under deep grass. Grass had grown
- 36:42Speaker 19: over it and appeared to have been there for a
- 36:44Speaker 19: very long time, and it was wrapped in two plastic trashjacks.
- 36:48Speaker 1: But what investigators have joseus be good.
- 36:51Speaker 2: Why would you wrap a kid's backpack and trash bags,
- 36:54Speaker 2: two of them.
- 36:56Speaker 19: Right, it seems like it was definitely a disposal of evidence.
- 36:59Speaker 19: They did not want to be caught with Asha's belongings.
- 37:02Speaker 19: So what investigators found in those trash bags were two hairs.
- 37:07Speaker 19: One of those hairs belonged to one of the dead
- 37:10Speaker 19: men's daughters. She was thirteen at the time. The other
- 37:14Speaker 19: hair belonged to a patient under the dead men's care.
- 37:18Speaker 2: Okay, so these hairs connect back to the dead men's
- 37:22Speaker 2: and they're on Asia's backpack.
- 37:24Speaker 1: I understand that.
- 37:26Speaker 2: Also, a neighbor said three rooms at the deadmon property
- 37:31Speaker 2: were padlocked. They were full of dead men's personal property.
- 37:36Speaker 2: I understand police have also sees cameras, journals, a trash bag,
- 37:42Speaker 2: children's clothing, and a rifle from the dead man home.
- 37:45Speaker 1: Is that true?
- 37:46Speaker 19: Yes, it's absolutely correct. And those journals were actually penned
- 37:50Speaker 19: by the dead men's daughters. So they had three daughters.
- 37:53Speaker 1: At the time.
- 37:54Speaker 19: The youngest, Annie was thirteen, and they had two other daughters,
- 37:58Speaker 19: Sarah and Lizzie, both sixteen years old at the time
- 38:01Speaker 19: of acious disappearance.
- 38:03Speaker 2: That's where we're getting the word that a dead person
- 38:08Speaker 2: may have the key to unlock the disappearance of Asia exactly.
- 38:12Speaker 19: That is referring to Russell Underhill, that patient underneath the
- 38:17Speaker 19: dead Men's care. So at the time Underhill did not
- 38:20Speaker 19: actually reside in the dead Men's Vale, North Carolina rest home,
- 38:25Speaker 19: but Connie Deadman did attend to him at the rest
- 38:29Speaker 19: home he was at, and Roy Deadman was listed as
- 38:32Speaker 19: his emergency contact. So it's kind of an odd connection.
- 38:36Speaker 19: But the only connection between the dead Men's daughter, thirteen
- 38:40Speaker 19: year old ann Aalie, and Russell Underhill is Roy and
- 38:44Speaker 19: Connie Deadman, and they now are officially listed as suspects
- 38:48Speaker 19: in Asia's case.
- 38:49Speaker 1: They are denying any wrongdoing it all, of.
- 38:52Speaker 2: Course, as does the lawyer for the dead patients. So
- 38:55Speaker 2: let me just consolidate this her back Asia's backpack is
- 39:00Speaker 2: found double wrapped in trash bags and dance undergrowth grown
- 39:04Speaker 2: over with foliage in it. There is the hair that
- 39:12Speaker 2: links back directly by DNA comparison to the dead Man's
- 39:16Speaker 2: daughter and to one of the dead Men's patients and
- 39:19Speaker 2: their nursing home who is now dead. Do I have
- 39:23Speaker 2: it exactly?
- 39:25Speaker 1: Wow, that's a bombshell, Sydney.
- 39:27Speaker 19: Absolutely, Nancy, And it's unclear exactly where investigators are going
- 39:31Speaker 19: with this. The Deadmen's have given multiple numerous statements to
- 39:36Speaker 19: police and they've even passed polygraph tests, so it's very
- 39:40Speaker 19: unclear what the connection is. But that Green nineteen seventies
- 39:47Speaker 19: is sure that the FBI was looking for was towed
- 39:50Speaker 19: from the dead Men's home, and this was a nineteen
- 39:53Speaker 19: sixty four.
- 39:54Speaker 1: There was Franky Sydney.
- 39:55Speaker 2: Other items receives, including a human tooth, yes, a.
- 40:00Speaker 19: Plastic bag, and lots of explanations for that. That could
- 40:03Speaker 19: have been the first lost baby tooth. They have three daughters,
- 40:07Speaker 19: so there are lots of plausible explanations for that. But
- 40:10Speaker 19: could it be tied to Asia.
- 40:12Speaker 2: I just hate, hate what the parents have been going through.
- 40:16Speaker 2: There is a forty five thousand dollars reward in connection
- 40:21Speaker 2: with the location of nine year old Asia degree tip
- 40:28Speaker 2: line seven.
- 40:29Speaker 1: Zero four four eight four four.
- 40:31Speaker 2: Eight two two repeat seven zero four four eight four
- 40:36Speaker 2: four eight two two.
- 40:39Speaker 1: We wait as just as unfalse. Goodbye friend,