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9-17: What's next for the Mariners? Seahawks QB situation and AQ Shipley with a preview of Arizona · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 1: FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning from the Virginia Mason Athletic Center in Renton.
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks Headquarters Headlines are brought to you by Frostbrood, Coors Light,
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  Speaker 2: as cold as the Rockies. Seahawks practiced yesterday. Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 2: was in cleats. He was thrown off to the side
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  Speaker 2: before practice. Seven days after he strained his glute and
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  Speaker 2: left the season opener after just five plays. That's a
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  Speaker 2: good sign. Darnold's not a long-term injury, which the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: are maintaining, but he will not start Sunday. Mike McDonald
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  Speaker 2: confirmed Drew Locke, the starting quarterback for the Seahawks, against
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  Speaker 2: the Cardinals in Arizona on Sunday. And McDonald also said
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  Speaker 2: the team's going to roll with just two quarterbacks. Locke
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  Speaker 2: and his backup is going to be Jalen Milrow. Well,
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  Speaker 2: Darnold is out. Nicky Manwari was in full pad yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: but limited again in practice. He hasn't practiced fully since mid-June.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, he had the arthroscopic gang surgery in July.
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  Speaker 2: Wide receiver Torrey Horton was full go, though. He's on
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  Speaker 2: track to make his season debut Sunday at the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 2: NFL Week 2 begins tonight. Detroit coming off an overtime
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  Speaker 2: win at home over the Saints playing at Buffalo. It's
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  Speaker 2: the Bills opener in the new Palace Stadium. The Mariners.
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  Speaker 2: Are the Mariners still playing? Yeah, I guess they're still playing.
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  Speaker 2: They won at Anaheim. Sorry, Jessamyn. Yeah, they won at Anaheim,
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  Speaker 2: yet they lost both the series at the A's and
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  Speaker 2: the Angels. Bottom of the league, those two teams. Nine
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  Speaker 2: games left in the most disappointing, frustrating season. In Mariners history,
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  Speaker 2: the Storm, they're back after the WNBA break for the
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  Speaker 2: World Basketball Championships. They're hosting the Las Vegas Aces tonight
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  Speaker 2: at Climate Pledge Arena. Former Washington Huskies defensive coordinator Steve
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  Speaker 2: Belichick resigned today as North Carolina's defensive coordinator after an
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  Speaker 2: internal investigation by that school into the football program, the
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  Speaker 2: culture his father, head coach Bill Belichick, is heading. UNC
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  Speaker 2: announced the findings of an investigation Thursday in conjunction with
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  Speaker 2: Steve Belichick's resignation. UNC said in a statement the probe
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  Speaker 2: found revealed isolated disregard for values and standards of conduct
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  Speaker 2: in the football program in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think happened?
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  Speaker 2: There's some reports that Steve Belichick was doing stuff. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to disarm him here. NHL training camps are
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  Speaker 2: opening today. The Kraken start at the King County Iceplex.
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  Speaker 2: The Winnipeg Jets suspended star goalie and 2025 league MVP
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  Speaker 2: Connor Hellebuck. for failure to report to their training camp
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  Speaker 2: in Manitoba. Now on with the Thursday show. Jessamyn McIntyre
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  Speaker 2: with me, Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 3: Am I with you, though, Greg?
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  Speaker 2: No, not physically. She is back in the Elliott Bay
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  Speaker 2: Studios in Seattle. I'm down at Seahawk headquarters in Renton-Along Lake, Washington.
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  Speaker 2: Mark Morrison, we're going to have him on the show.
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  Speaker 2: That was a great idea. I told my wife and
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  Speaker 2: my daughter when I saw him in Hawaii this last
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  Speaker 2: weekend about Mark Morrison needs to be on our show.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I am going through that grapevine.
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  Speaker 2: That would be awesome. Yes. I love that. We rented
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  Speaker 2: a Jeep and were driving around a North Shore, Hawaii,
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  Speaker 2: and that song came on. My daughter was in the backseat.
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  Speaker 2: It was pretty cool. We relived the whole story. She's
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  Speaker 2: heard the show a few times and thinks it's pretty
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  Speaker 2: cool that we play that. So that's why we play it.
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  Speaker 2: For instance, Sarah Bell, U.S. Coast Guard out in Honolulu
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  Speaker 2: and a U.S. Coast Guard midget. Good morning from Seahawks headquarters. Hi, Jessamyn.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to you back there. Good morning. Happy Thursday. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it is a happy Thursday. Yes. The sun is out
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  Speaker 2: in the beautiful Pacific Northwest. September is the best here. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: It's so underrated.
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  Speaker 2: It is. People forget because summer's over and the kids
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  Speaker 2: are back at school, but those that don't live in
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  Speaker 2: the Pacific Northwest, you're listening on the iHeartRadio app or
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  Speaker 2: wherever on 933KJR. com or maybe watching on YouTube, it is
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  Speaker 2: really a special place in September. It is crystal clear
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  Speaker 2: blue skies most of the time. It did rain last weekend,
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  Speaker 2: I guess. But It is perfect temperature, 75, 78 degrees,
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  Speaker 2: cool mornings, cool evenings, bright sunshine, coming across Lake Washington
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  Speaker 2: today to work. It was really, wow. I mean, Hawaii
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  Speaker 2: was nice, but this is a pretty damn nice place,
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  Speaker 2: especially in September because we all know what's ahead in October, November,
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  Speaker 2: December here. But, yeah, September, I think, of all my
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  Speaker 2: years living here, 20, 30 years, September is my favorite
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  Speaker 2: month of the year, I think.
• 4:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a very, very big fall person. So
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  Speaker 4: it goes, for me, I go backwards when it comes
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  Speaker 4: to my favorite seasons. I go fall, summer, spring, then
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  Speaker 4: winter for favorite seasons. But I travel a lot, so
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  Speaker 4: it depends on where I am when I root for
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  Speaker 4: a season.
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  Speaker 2: You're from a regional country. The fall might be the
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  Speaker 2: best time, and that's New York. And falls in New
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  Speaker 2: York are majestic. Yes. They're really, really pretty and beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: It's about the only time I thought West Point was
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  Speaker 2: actually a pretty cool place.
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  Speaker 3: You've experienced all four seasons there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. There was no spring at West Point. It
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  Speaker 2: went from winter to summer. It was pretty hot. On
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  Speaker 2: the show today, Sam Darnold, he isn't just laying in
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  Speaker 2: bed healing his glute injury. That was obvious yesterday. He
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  Speaker 2: was in cleats on the field before practice. We'll talk
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  Speaker 2: to you about what I saw there, even though he
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  Speaker 2: showed up on the report as did not participate in
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  Speaker 2: practice because he didn't. And then Nicky Minori, four days
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  Speaker 2: before The Seahawks play at the Cardinals. It looks encouraging
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  Speaker 2: when you see video of him at the beginning of practice,
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  Speaker 2: but we'll talk about how I don't think he's going
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  Speaker 2: to play Sunday. At 1025, you hear from Coach Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald talking about Darnold, talking about the quarterback plans in practice.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to change. We've talked a lot since Darnold's
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  Speaker 2: injury about how starting quarterbacks get all the reps, right?
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  Speaker 2: That's not the case this week. The Seahawks are changing
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  Speaker 2: that up, and Jalen Milrow is getting some ones time.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not that they're trying to bench Drew Locke
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  Speaker 2: at all. But there was a lesson learned last week
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  Speaker 2: about readiness of the backup quarterback that they're going to
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  Speaker 2: try to avoid this week in case Jalen Milrow has
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  Speaker 2: to play in Arizona. We're going to talk about that
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  Speaker 2: at 11 o'clock. We're going to go live to Phoenix.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Cardinals Radio Anna's former NFL
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  Speaker 2: offensive lineman, A.Q. Shipley, for a colorful character in his
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  Speaker 2: second year now, replacing the great Ron Wolfley down in
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  Speaker 2: Arizona as the radio host. Color analyst. He's also on
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  Speaker 2: the Pat McAfee show. Justin's anxious to ask AQ Siffley
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  Speaker 2: about that.
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  Speaker 4: We have a lot of interesting cross paths when it
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  Speaker 4: comes to it, because a lot of where my father
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  Speaker 4: used to recruit crosses his paths. And we have mutual friends,
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  Speaker 4: which I learned last night when I was trying to get.
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  Speaker 3: Him on the show today.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, I think that'll be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: He's from Coriopolis, Pennsylvania, western Pennsylvania, just outside Pittsburgh. Actually
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  Speaker 2: near the airport. It's about 30 minutes from where I
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  Speaker 2: grew up. A.Q. Shipley is a former Cardinals offensive lineman.
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  Speaker 2: He was briefly a Cardinals coach, and now he's the
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  Speaker 2: Cardinals radio broadcaster. He's going to talk about what he
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  Speaker 2: saw in the Cardinals opener. They walloped the Chargers in
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  Speaker 2: the Jim Harbaugh's down in Los Angeles last weekend. And
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  Speaker 2: we're going to talk about how they did that and
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  Speaker 2: what the Seahawks can expect in their game Sunday down
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  Speaker 4: I got two days in a row when you were
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  Speaker 4: on vacation in Hawaii, and I feel like you should
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  Speaker 2: on here at the Seahawks because it's finally a normal
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  Speaker 2: game week. It wasn't normal until yesterday, and now they're
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  Speaker 2: in the regular Sunday to Sunday flow, which is Wednesday, Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: Friday practices, Saturday. A normal week. Yeah, finally, for the
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  Speaker 2: first time since, well, even the Super Bowl wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: normal week, so the first time since the NFC Championship
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  Speaker 2: game in late January on a normal mid-game flow. And
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  Speaker 2: yesterday was interesting to see Sam Donald on the field.
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  Speaker 2: I saw him walking through the locker room carrying his cleats.
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  Speaker 2: And he wasn't really limping either with his glute injury.
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  Speaker 2: Only seven days since he'd been in Harborview Medical Center
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  Speaker 2: and getting tested and CT scanned for possible fracture of
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  Speaker 2: his hip. And he's walking around, he's carrying his cleats.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought, well, that's interesting. And He ended up
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  Speaker 2: going outside, and he was throwing the ball, and he
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  Speaker 2: was with a trainer, and he was doing dropbacks. Then
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  Speaker 2: he left as soon as we started to go out
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  Speaker 2: for the beginning of practice, and then he wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: participant in practice at all. Nicky Manwari was a participant,
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  Speaker 2: but still on a limited base. He was in full pads,
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  Speaker 2: and at the start of practice, it looked like perhaps
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  Speaker 2: he was going to fully participate, but he was listed
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  Speaker 2: as a limited participant by the team, which by NFL
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  Speaker 2: rules means he did not participate in 100% of his
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  Speaker 2: normal workload for practice with the team and team drills.
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  Speaker 2: So he has not still fully practiced since minicamp in mid-June.
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  Speaker 2: And then a few weeks after that, he had the
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  Speaker 2: arthroscopic ankle surgery. He hasn't practiced fully since then. He
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  Speaker 2: was practice limited last week and did not play. They
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  Speaker 2: listed him as questionable and he didn't play. I think
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  Speaker 2: the same thing is going to happen, Jessamyn, this week.
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  Speaker 2: I think Nicky Maury is not going to play. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, even if he practices fully today, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if it's in their best interest to play him.
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  Speaker 3: You save a Nick. You save a Nick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I think they're doing with both him
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  Speaker 3: and Sam.
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  Speaker 2: Could be. What I saw yesterday from Darnold suggests it's
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  Speaker 2: not going to be long. It could be this week
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  Speaker 2: that he misses only. He could come back for at
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  Speaker 2: Washington week three. And I think a better case scenario
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  Speaker 2: for him, again, to not get hurt as soon as
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  Speaker 2: he gets back. This Seahawks medical staff is notorious in
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  Speaker 2: a good way for being very conservative and not bringing
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  Speaker 2: guys back when, yeah, he can play now, but can
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  Speaker 2: he play game after game after game all the way
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  Speaker 2: until January, February? That's the question they always ask themselves.
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  Speaker 2: It's not can Sam Darnold play this week. It's can
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  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold play this game and the next game and
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  Speaker 2: the next game and the next game? Same with Nicky Manwari.
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  Speaker 2: And if that answer is maybe, then they say no,
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  Speaker 2: you're not playing. They need an answer of yes. And
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  Speaker 2: that takes multiple days in a row and sometimes weeks
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  Speaker 2: on top of weeks of practicing fully before they can
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  Speaker 2: determine that because the most important aspect of an injury
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  Speaker 2: return is how do you respond the first day or
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  Speaker 2: two or three that you fully practice? It's not enough
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  Speaker 2: to just fully practice, then play. You have to respond
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  Speaker 2: to that practice. And that's what Nicky Manwari has yet
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  Speaker 2: to do since June. That's what makes me think he's
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  Speaker 2: not going to play, even if he fully practices today.
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  Speaker 2: Which means what happens at safety? Because Ty Okada didn't
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  Speaker 2: practice again yesterday. He missed last week's with a hamstring injury.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about hamstrings. We know that, Jessamyn. They just
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  Speaker 2: don't go away overnight or take some ibuprofen.
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  Speaker 3: Muscles are interesting, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's a hamstring issue that has come up
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  Speaker 2: relatively recently because Ty Okada was fully practicing up until
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  Speaker 2: last week. So it sounds like he's not going to play.
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  Speaker 2: It appears he's not going to play either. So they're
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  Speaker 2: in the same situation at safety that they were this
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  Speaker 2: time last week in that both Okada and Imanwari look
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  Speaker 2: like they're not playing Sunday in Arizona. which means I
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  Speaker 2: would think Rodney Thomas, after the stellar performance he had
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  Speaker 2: as a practice squad call-up last week, is going to
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  Speaker 2: get called up from the practice squad again. They still
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  Speaker 2: have A.J. Finley on the active roster. Remember, they added
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  Speaker 2: him to the 53 before kickoff against the Patriots last week.
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  Speaker 2: So he's on the active roster, and that could be
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  Speaker 2: their options again at safety at one and two, and
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  Speaker 2: Thomas being the starter back with Julian Love. Something else
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  Speaker 2: that we haven't discussed here in about a week or so,
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  Speaker 2: What is up with Trevon Diggs? Remember the 2021 All-Pro cornerback?
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't ready to play last week, not physically at
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  Speaker 2: cornerback or in the scheme, so they kept him on
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  Speaker 2: the practice squad and didn't call him up. They call
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  Speaker 2: up Vellis Jones Jr. as a backup running back instead.
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  Speaker 2: I would think Rodney Thomas and Trevon Diggs are in
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  Speaker 2: play to get called up this time for the Arizona game,
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  Speaker 2: but Nehemiah Pritchett played really well in the opener. He
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  Speaker 2: tackled well, which has been his problem, and then we
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  Speaker 2: saw the interception that Thomas deflected to him when Drake
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  Speaker 2: May just handed him a jump ball and double coverage
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  Speaker 2: for the first of May's three interceptions in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 2: But Pritchett really impressed the coaches last week. McDonald has
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  Speaker 2: said a couple times how well Pritchett played in that game.
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  Speaker 2: It allowed, as we said, Devin Witherspoon to play inside
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  Speaker 2: at nickel, which is where McDonald wants him to play.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see Pritchett getting demoted for the performance he
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  Speaker 2: had last week. Mm-hmm. So maybe Diggs doesn't come up
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  Speaker 2: and he stays on the practice squad again. When he
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  Speaker 2: re-signed Diggs after they cut him, he didn't re-sign to
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  Speaker 2: spend the season on the practice squad. He re-signed with
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  Speaker 2: the understanding that he would ramp up on the practice
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  Speaker 2: squad to come and play. And here's Nehemiah Pritchett emerging
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  Speaker 2: in the interim. So that to me is an interesting
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  Speaker 2: side light of this Seahawks defense is whether Trevon Diggs
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  Speaker 2: will get elevated to play and whether you demote Nehemiah
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  Speaker 2: Pritchett for the performance he had. Last week. We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: There's some shell games still to be done outside the
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  Speaker 2: secondary and safety in and outside cornerback. 49451 on the
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  Speaker 2: Comodage text line. You're concerned about Nicky Manwari. The fact
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  Speaker 2: that he has not fully practiced since that surgery in mid-July.
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  Speaker 2: And the expectation was that he would play in the
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  Speaker 2: opener when he had that surgery. He didn't play in
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  Speaker 2: the opener, obviously. And now it's trending toward him not
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  Speaker 2: being able to play in week two. You're concerned about
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  Speaker 2: Nicky Manwari. Because he is the focal point of that defense.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, everything McDonald duds in the back seven revolves
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  Speaker 2: around first Nicky Manwari and where he puts him before. Jessamyn,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that it's a huge concern that he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't play in Arizona in September, but it is something
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  Speaker 2: noteworthy to say that he has yet to fully practice
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  Speaker 2: since that surgery.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like I was saying with the earlier defense,
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  Speaker 4: players that we have discussed is that I think they're
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  Speaker 4: being very protective at this point I mean the Seahawks
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  Speaker 4: played longer than anyone else you know save the Patriots
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  Speaker 4: but they I think they're looking at the long-term thing
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  Speaker 4: they're playing the long game on these injuries so I
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  Speaker 4: don't necessarily look at these as concerning I look at
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  Speaker 4: them as okay we are actually competing this year and
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  Speaker 4: we're protecting our best assets that we have That's my view.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right about that. They are definitely on
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  Speaker 2: the long play. They expect to be playing in January, February,
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  Speaker 2: so they're looking forward to September for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and protect your best assets.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what other teams do when
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: they come out with a splash and they push guys
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  Speaker 4: into action.
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  Speaker 3: When they're not ready to be there.
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  Speaker 4: And it seems like the Seahawks are taking very good
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  Speaker 4: care of their players.
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  Speaker 2: They do take the long view, and I said they've
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  Speaker 2: been conservative teams in their medical estimations of guys coming back.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: We're also going to talk in the show today about
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: the Mariners. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic is reporting today
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  Speaker 2: that manager Dan Wilson is the manager most likely to
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  Speaker 2: be fired by the end of the major league season.
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  Speaker 2: No big shock there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you thought he was going to resign.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to resign still. I think he's
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: just going to.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: And I think they would allow him that if that
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: was the situation.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: And I think they're going to try to avoid saying
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: they fired a franchise icon, I think. But what about
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Jerry DiPoto?
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Chuck Powell had a groceries analogy at the end of
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: his show I was listening to before I came on
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: about how DePoto, as the president of baseball operations, bought
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: all the groceries, all the ingredients for the team. And
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: then it's up to Dan Wilson and his coaching staff
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: to actually cook the meal. And you can't blame the
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: meal for being bad because the cook played about it.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: You can't blame the guy who bought the groceries. My
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: argument to that would be easily DePoto was in charge
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: of everything in baseball operations, including how you use the bullpen.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: who plays, launch angles and exit velocities, and the emphasis
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: on that in the organization, the bullpen philosophy, how they
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: use starting pitchers, all the things that have gone wrong
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: the last 11 years for the Mariners, Jerry DePoto's been
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: in charge of. The fact that there is even Dan
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Wilson as the manager is Jerry DePoto's fault. I see
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Joe Maddon on the text line quite a bit. There
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: is no chance in hell that Joe Maddon is coming
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: here to coach, to manage under I don't know any
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: manager who's had any autonomy in one big, like Joe
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Maddon has, would ever come here to Seattle as long
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: as Jerry DiPoto's in charge.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: Because no manager who's been independently successful wants to manage
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: by iPad and analytics. And he doesn't want to be
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: dictated to from up high on how I can run
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: my team, what nine I bring out, when I can
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: take my starting pitcher out, what bullpen guys I can
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: use and how I can or can't use them on
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: consecutive days. how they can't start an inning in the
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: middle of an inning. They can't start a second inning.
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: Joe Madden would tell them to shove their iPads up
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: their executive suites.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, thank you. Thank you for self-editing there. I do
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: appreciate that. Yeah, I'm with you on that as well.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: And I just think that, you know, I work majority
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: in football, right? And I see all these young coaches,
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: these young up-and-coming people come in. So in baseball, baseball is–
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: it's not like the team age is old, but it's
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: an older sport. And I don't think that you're going
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: to get someone like that. I mean, I don't know
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: what price it would take for it to be worth
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: it for someone like a Joe Maddon. And we're just
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: using him as an example. But man, that would be tough.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: That'd be tough to come in and then you'd have to,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: you know, refurbish everything in the clubhouse, you know, like
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: put some plastic coverings on it and everything.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: It would just be a different world. And I don't
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: know how much they want to change. And I think
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: that's the biggest question.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Exactly. It's ownership's unwillingness to get involved and change. And
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: we talked about this because the business is working, but
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the baseball operations is broken and the president of baseball
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: operations needs to be held accountable for the fact they've
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: only made the playoffs twice in 11 years and that
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: they've regressed so far from being eight outs from the
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: world series to subterranean 11 games under 500. That, that,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: That's not a managerial fault. That's an organizational fault. We've
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: talked about the leadership. Well, the leadership starts at the top,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: and that is at the very top. How does DiPoto
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: get a pass for now going on 11 years and
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: only making the playoffs twice? There aren't a lot of
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: franchises in sports that would put up with that, especially
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: with the pitching staff the Mariners have, especially with how
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: close they are to going to the World Series, and
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: then they pratfall. I mean, this is, again, the most disappointing, outrageously,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: ridiculously frustrating season in Mariners history. I don't think that's
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: even arguable. The stuff we've seen, the lack of accountability
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: for the plays we've seen and throwing balls into the
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: stands with one out, And running on 3-2 with one
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: out thinking there's two outs. And last night, Naylor just
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: walking off of third base. I don't know what that was.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, nobody's held accountable for that stuff. Just keep
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: on trotting on. Keep playing. You got guaranteed contracts. I'm good.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Ain't good. That needs to start at the top. We'll
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: talk about that as well later on in the show
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: around Ken Rosenthal's report in The Athletic that he believes
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson is the most likely manager to be fired.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to get fired.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: I think he will gracefully go back to the booth
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: if they want him up there.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for him, I think he ought to just go
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: in retirement and enjoy life he was having before.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, he was kind of doing that.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. He and his wife were just like chilling.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Then they called him out to replace Scott Service. Up next,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: let's talk about what Mike McDonald is saying about the
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Seahawks injury situation, about the quarterback situation, about the practice
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: reps for quarterbacks. It's going to be different. It already
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: is different this week at the Seahawks compared to a
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: normal NFL game week. We'll talk about that next at
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: 11 o'clock.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: A.Q.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Shipley, the Cardinals radio analyst, going to talk about what
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks have waiting for them in Arizona on Sunday
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: on 93.3 KJRFM. Hi, welcome back to Seahawks headquarters, the
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Virginia Mason Athletic Center. Greg Bell and Jessamyn McIntyre with
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: you as we are every weekday, 10 a.m. to noon
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: here on 93.3 KJR FM. We got the Huskies home again.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: They play Eastern Washington 415 on Saturday, live here on
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: KJR with Elyse Woodward, Cam Cleveland, and Dave Softy-Mahler on
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: the call. We got the Kraken starting their Training camp
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: at the Kraken Community Iceplex. I think I call it
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: the King County Iceplex.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, Casey can get confused, but Kraken Community, yes.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: That's where Ian Furness is today. His show will be
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: from 12 until 3 with a lot of pucks on
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: the first day of training. It's a short training camp
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: in NHL land. They do it like five, four days.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: They play for a really long time.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I know, and then they go to like two or
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: three preseason games, and then bam, the season will start here.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the end of September, beginning of October, really early start
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: this year. And the Kraken have a couple feature games
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: early in the season. They're going to Finland for two games.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Dan's going to talk pucks in the Kraken here on
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: the Home of the Kraken, 93.3 KGRFM from 12 until
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: 3 today. I'm out here at Seahawks headquarters because it's
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: another practice day for Sunday's game, week two at Arizona.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Of course, Drew Locke, the starting quarterback, with Sam Darnold
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: injured and out. Mike McDonald made that official yesterday that
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Darnold will not play and that's Drew Locke will get
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: his start. A first start for Seattle for Locke since
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: December of 2023. He then signed with the New York
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Giants and started a couple games at the end of
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: the 24th season for the Giants when he was a
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: backup to then-injured Daniel Jones, and he signed back with
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks for a two-year contract that ends this year.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald yesterday talking here at Seahawks headquarters about Sam Darnold,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: trying to get a few more specifics out of him
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: on the injury. about the Seahawks' practices for the quarterbacks,
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: the rotation of the quarterbacks, Jalen Milrow and Drew Locke
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: this week. It's different than a normal week. And also
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: a quick update on Ernest Jones, who didn't practice at
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the start of this week. This was Mike McDonald yesterday.
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he'll get all the reps.
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: He's our starter this week, and we'll operate accordingly.
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: But Drew's going to start here for a while.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: So.
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: I'm looking forward to seeing him practice today, just like
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: I am Sam when he's playing. We've had some episodes
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: in our history here, especially the latter parts of last year.
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, where we
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: felt like Drew was about to go play for.
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: Us and really nothing changes.
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: I would expect nothing to change with Drew's demeanor or
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: the way he approaches his work.
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: But have you.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Seen anything different, a spring in his step, an enthusiasm,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: a joy, anything?
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's Drew.
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: I mean, that's the way Drew is every day. Drew's
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: a joyful guy. He's a great guy. He's got his
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: own personality, which we love. He's got his style of
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: playing quarterback, which is what we want here. Obviously, we
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: want to be within the scheme and how we're training
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: our guys, but you've got to be yourself, too, and
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: Drew's definitely that, and we're looking forward to it.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: Mike, do you have more clarity on what the injury
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: is that Sam's dealing with?
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: It's a glute, to my knowledge, right?
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Glute, yeah, glute. as opposed to the tendon?
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: Uh, glutes or tendon?
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I thought a glute was a muscle. Well, I think
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: there was a report that it was a glute tendon.
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: You're right. I'm an uncharted waters here.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:59
  Speaker 10: When you're game planning for an opponent, how much of
• 25:02
  Speaker 10: it is about players versus plays?
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: This is a, it's a tricky one because, uh, there's a,
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: there's a balance there. You have to, um, We talked
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: about today in our team meeting, everyone says, hey, it's
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: about us.
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: What does that mean about how we focus?
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: We have to focus on being our best versions of ourselves,
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: getting our bodies, minds, spirits ready to play our best
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: football every day, especially game day. Coaching-wise, I think we
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: have to keep it in our wheelhouse at all times.
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: I think if we're scattered and what we're asking our
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: players to do, I think that the players will play scattered. However,
• 25:46
  Speaker 8: I also think that, you know, part of our ethos
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: here is and things that we believe in is we
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: want to, we want to stay aggressive and we want
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: to attack things that we see on tape and especially
• 25:56
  Speaker 8: structurally and matchups and things like that. So it's a,
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: it's definitely a balance, you know, and it's a, it's
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: a delicate balance. I felt like we've hit the mark
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: a lot of times here. And sometimes we've fallen short
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: as coaches of, I think anytime we regret it is
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: we put the emphasis too much on the other team. However,
• 26:18
  Speaker 8: I think we owe it to our players as well
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: to stay aggressive and try to give them as much
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: of an advantage as possible. So that's something that we
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: spend a lot of time on, we take a lot
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: of pride in, and you feel a pretty heavy responsibility
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: to do it the right way.
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: You talked about schematics there. How much do you look
• 26:35
  Speaker 10: into individual player matchups? Like this guy has done well
• 26:38
  Speaker 10: against this individual player versus... this is a scheme they
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: play and we know that we're going to do well
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: against that scheme.
• 26:44
  Speaker 11: Mike, obviously Drew's got a lot of experience playing, backing
• 26:48
  Speaker 11: up in the league.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Jalen doesn't.
• 26:50
  Speaker 11: So do you have to adjust your plan for him
• 26:53
  Speaker 11: as a backup this week and how you would handle
• 26:55
  Speaker 11: that as opposed to.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Drew with the reps you try to give him?
• 26:57
  Speaker 11: Or how do you kind of manage that now that
• 26:59
  Speaker 11: he's kind of in the backup seat for this week?
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: I'm sure we'll tweak some sort of the some part
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: of the process in terms of numbers.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: Jalen's not going to get no reps. Let's put it
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: that way.
• 27:17
  Speaker 9: When you first took over as head coach, what priority
• 27:24
  Speaker 9: was it to have an experienced backup quarterback who has
• 27:27
  Speaker 9: started in the league?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: That's the way your team has been here for the
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: last nine years or so, but that wasn't always the case.
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: I don't specifically have in that exact conversation with John
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: on what our approach was.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: I think we were just trying to get the best
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: players we could possibly get.
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: How are you feeling about Nicky Manwari and Torrey Horton
• 27:49
  Speaker 10: and their potential availability this week?
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, those guys are doing great. They're going to practice today,
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: and we'll go from there.
• 28:00
  Speaker 10: When it comes to Drew, obviously what he was able
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: to do against the Patriots and then a few years
• 28:03
  Speaker 10: before he got here, he had that big Monday.
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: Nighter against the Eagles that time in the 23rd.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: What is it about him that he's in this back
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: of his numbers called? He always seems to have these
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: great performances of relief like that.
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: Well, I think it's my same answer from earlier. Drew's
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: a proven really good player in this league. And when
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: he started, he's played really good football. And then when
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: he's been on our team since I've seen him play
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: in person, he's a heck of a player here. So
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: it's a heck of a guy, a heck of a teammate.
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: He's got a great balance about him of being a,
• 28:42
  Speaker 8: being like a true professional, but also he's a loose
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: and focused guy. You know, he's a, he's a warrior
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: in the garden. He's a, all the things that we
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: want from our, from our players. He's that at the
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: quarterback position.
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: Any updates on Ernest Jones for this week? I don't
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: think we saw him at practice on Monday. Yeah, he was,
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: he was sick on Monday. He's good to go.
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: You know, we got to, not that we're not, but
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: there's an urgency of, of taking our game and our
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: team and our individual performances to another level.
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: And that's, that's what we're trying to do today.
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: Back with Sam Darnold, can he do anything, or is
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: he totally shut down, rehab.
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: Training, anything like that?
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: He's killing it on his rehab. He's doing a great job.
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: He's doing a lot right now. He's not going to
• 29:24
  Speaker 8: be able to play this week.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: That was Coach Mike McDonald yesterday at Seahawk headquarters out
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: here in Renton. It was interesting him talking about Darnold
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: killing his rehab and doing a lot, not just sitting
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: around resting, and then 10 minutes later, I'm watching him
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: carry his cleats outside. And then Darnold is throwing passes
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: and running dropbacks and doing that before practice on the side.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: So Jessamyn, there's a reason they haven't put him on
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: injured reserve. They think he's going to be back within
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: four weeks for sure.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: That's the most encouraging thing that I could see out
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Correct. And the fact that he was throwing seven days
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: after being injured and was in cleats, suggests that it is,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: as the Seahawks have said, this is a short-term issue.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: But Drew Locke will start this week. Now, the backup
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: quarterback reps, we've talked about this. Jalen Milrow is going
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: to get and has been getting one-team reps this week,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: and that's unusual. We've talked about how a starting quarterback
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: gets all the reps and that there are relatively limited
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: opportunities for a starting quarterback to practice the game plan
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: between games in an NFL regular season. But what the
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Seahawks and Brian Fleury, the new offense coordinator, and Mike
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: McDonald are trying to avoid here is what Drew Locke
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: ran into last week, which was not practicing the game
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: plan at all and then be forced into playing. Jalen
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Milrow has done game plans even fewer times as in
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: next to zero with the starting offense the last two
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: seasons while he's been in the league since they drafted
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: him out of Alabama in the spring of 2025. I
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: asked Cooper Cupp yesterday, Just how often have you caught
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: passes and run plays in practices with the ones, with
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Drew Locke as your quarterback the last two seasons, counting
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: all last season when Donald played all the games? And
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: he looked at me like he couldn't even think of
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: any times. And he said, finally, a few. I said,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: maybe 10 times in 21 game weeks? And he looked
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: at me and said, yeah, maybe 10, if that. So
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: it's next to never that Locke had been practicing game
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: plan-specific plays in for any given opponent. They played 20
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: games last season, of course, and then one last week. Well,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: they want to avoid that with Milrow. If Locke, for
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: some reason, gets hurt and Milrow has to play on
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Sunday in Arizona, they want him to have at least
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: practiced some of the game plan plays. So he's getting
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: one time this week. What it does do, though, is
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: it divides Jalen Milrow's time. Not that it's a primary concern,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: but he's the scout team quarterback. And he runs Jacoby
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Brissett and the Cardinals plays. and now he's doing the
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Cardinals plays and the Seahawks plays this week.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a mental load.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: It is a mental load. It's not that it's an
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: impossible task, but it does make you think, well, maybe
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: they would sign a third quarterback or a quarterback to
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: the practice squad just to run the scout team. And
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: that's why you heard me ask Mike McDonald the question,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: are you okay to roll with just two quarterbacks, or
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: are you going to think about signing a third one?
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: And he said, no, we're just going to roll with
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: these two, so they won't even add a practice squad
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: one to run scout team reps, and they're just going
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: to roll with Milrow. and Locke, but it is a
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: departure from the norm this week, practice week, for the
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Seahawks at quarterback that Jalen Milrow is getting any times
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: with the ones at all, again, to avoid the Drew
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Locke situation. I mean, you'd rather have Drew Locke, a
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: veteran of eight NFL seasons and a former NFL starter,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: do what he did last week with no prep in
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: the game plan and practice than Jalen Milrow, who never
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: has done that. And so that's the difference. That's why
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Milrow's got a double duty this week.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that happens, but I also think that's
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: a learning moment.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: For a young quarterback to have to play both sides,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: it's a chess match and you learn both opponents at
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: the same time.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: And I think that might benefit him.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Sure. And it also gives the Seahawks an indication of
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: how much he can handle and how much they can
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: throw at him and where his progress is.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Learning on all sides.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Up next, the Mariners are still playing. There's nine games
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: left of the season that now needs to end, doesn't it?
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal of the Athletic. reporting today about Dan Wilson,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: his future as a manager, and Rosenthal also surmised what
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: should happen with Jerry DiPoto, and maybe is he not
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the one responsible for all of this? His season has
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: been so bad, Rosenthal raises the specter that maybe Mariner's
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: ownership changes at the very top of the organization. We'll
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: talk about the possibility of that and why from where
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: we sit, this isn't going to happen, though it should.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: That's next. Your comments, your talkbacks, we'll read them back.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: We'll play them back at 11.30. Factor Fiction, our pick
• 33:54
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• 33:56
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• 34:00
  Speaker 2: coming up here from Seahawks headquarters on 93.3 KJRFM. Welcome
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: back to Seahawks Headquarters at Virginia Mason Athletic Center in sunny,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: beautiful blue sky Renton, Washington. Jessamyn McIntyre, I'm sorry, is
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: not in sunny, beautiful blue sky.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: I'm in a darkness retreat. Aaron Rodgers-ing.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Zenning at the Elliott Bay Studios back in Seattle. Jessamyn's
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: going to be on the sidelines Saturday in Martin Stadium
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: in Pullman. That's where Washington State is hosting Duquesne. That's
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: the softer touch on the Cougs' schedule before their new
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Pac-12 regular season season. Conference schedule begins.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: And we didn't exactly start the season out with an
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: easy couple rounds.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: No, the Apple Cup and then at Kansas State and
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: a little apple in Manhattan. Neither of them went well
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: for the Cougs, but they hope to get their first
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: win of the season against big underdog Duquesne. I mean,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: it's like a 35-point spread or something in that game.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: By the way, incidentally, yesterday, our factor fiction pick, I
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: picked Eastern Washington getting 43 points at Washington and Husky
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Stadium on Saturday at 415 here on KJR. And we
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: made the almost joke that can Washington's offense score 43 points?
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Cooper Cobb is an Eastern Washington Eag, Seahawks wide receiver.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: He was the Walter Payton Award winner as the best
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: player in the football championship subdivision when he was at Eastern.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: And we asked him yesterday about that and the fact
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: that his Eags are 43-point underdogs. And Cooper Cobb's response was,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I think that's a little egregious.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: He has a big diction too.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to nerd alert Cooper crop, but that's
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: pretty good.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Davis high school and Yakima's Cooper cup. He won't. I
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: heard some, I think it was Chuck or one of
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: the hosts on our show. I think it was Chuck
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: the other day, just wondering aloud if Cooper couple stopped
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: by Husky stadium to watch the Huskies and the Cougs.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: And I mean, the Huskies and the Eags. And he said, no,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: or he, He wanted to be, and the answer to
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: that is no. My point is the Seahawks are traveling
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: on Saturday afternoon for the game on Sunday, so Cooper
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Cupps is going to be doing his normal job with
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks flying to Phoenix for the game. On Sunday,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: the Mariners are still on a nine-game road trip. They
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: lost the series in Sacramento to the Lowly A's. They
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: lost the series in Anaheim to the Lowly Angels. This
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: morning in the Athletic, Ken Rosenthal said, has a story
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: up that says Dan Wilson is the manager most likely
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: to be fired at the end of this major league season.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: We keep maintaining on this show that we think they're
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: just going to gracefully exit Dan Wilson, and Wilson may
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: in fact just say, okay, I'm done at the end
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: of the season, and go back to doing what he
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: was doing before Jerry DiPoto tapped him, or John Stanton,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: more to the point, tapped him, to come in and
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: replace Scott Cervas. But then Rosenthal goes on to say
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: this season has been so bad that How will the
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Mariners fix this mess, is what he writes. And he
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: also writes, Seattle has reached the postseason only twice in
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: 11 years. We don't have to be reminded of that.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Under the president of baseball operations, Jerry DiPoto. But there
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: is no indication the team's largely hands-off ownership is interested
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: in making a change. Wilson and some of his coaches
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: then figured to be the only casualties. Wilson's leadership was
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: less than inspiring, sure. But with the underperformance this vast,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: The on-field staff can be faulted only so much. That's
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: from Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic, pointing fingers at Jerry DiPoto,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: the president of baseball operations.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: And Ken knows a lot of people.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Which begs a further question. We've talked on this show
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: of the leadership vacuum in the Mariners organization, the fact
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: that baseball operations are broken, and the president of baseball
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: operations should be held accountable for that. But two questions,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: one for you on the text line, Do you think
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: it's in John Stanton and the 20-some owners of the Mariners,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: it's in them to fire Jerry DiPoto when they're averaging
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: 37,000 fans a game, when they are among the top
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: 10 in revenues, when they are among the middle of
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: the pack in the bottom half of the league in
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: player payroll, they don't pay a luxury tax when, in fact,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: they receive luxury tax revenues from the highest spending teams
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: on player payroll, and they are competing to the fringes,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: at least contention of the playoffs, into September every year?
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's the bottom line question here. It isn't
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: have the Mariners been to the World Series. It is
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: for the owners, are the Mariners profitable and are they
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: staying competitive? And competitive is a relative term this year
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: in the American League and the American League West in particular,
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: which was so bad that they could be under 500
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: deep into September and still be in contention mathematically. That's
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: the question. Do you see Tacoma Dodge text line 49451?
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I'd be interested to hear your comments on this. I
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: think the answer is no because I think the business
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: operation is so healthy with the Mariners. The attendance is
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: so good. The revenues are so good. With paying minimally
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: toward the baseball ops, why would they change? The formula
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: as a business is working. And that's hot dogs from heaven.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: That's fire. That's bobbleheads. That's all of it.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Say the J word.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: It's Jimothy. Jimothy's going to go away, though, right? I mean,
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Jimothy's going to go away. By the time next season
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: comes along, that's got to be a flash in the pan.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: It was a.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Flash in the pan, but let's just pray for that raccoon.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Really? Yeah. They're so cute.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: They're trash pandas.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: It's a deformed vermin.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Yes, which means he's beat the odds, which is what
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: I was hoping the Mariners would do.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: All of it's working at the box office, promotions, in-game experiences.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Jessamyn talks about all the time how fun it is
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: to go to a ballgame. It's true. And it's the
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: blue sky and 75 degrees in summer in Seattle and
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: all of it.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: As I was saying at the top of the show,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: it is a very nice time at the ballpark.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: It is. Yet, is that the objective here? Is the
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: objective to win the World Series or is it to
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: be a successful, profitable business enterprise?
• 40:26
  Speaker 12: Both, Greg.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: It's both. Well, I would say that.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: That is a separate operation.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: It shouldn't be. I would submit that the accent's on
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: the wrong syllable in Seattle in baseball.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Okay, here we go. Now I get to do it.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Well, syllable's not a.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: When you say it like that, it is.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: They're so... I mean, I think it's a function of
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: the Mariners being owned by two dozen owners. If they
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: had a singular owner, or even a couple owners, or
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: maybe even the Seahawks situation of 15 owners... not 24
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: or 5. There would be fewer opportunities for people to
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: just care about the bottom line investment and care more
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: about the product on the field. If you had a
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: singular owner or just a couple, you wouldn't have as
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: many mouths to feed, as many investors to keep happy
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: from a business proposition standpoint. But the Mariners do. And
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: so they have to keep the business and enterprise happy,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: the investors, the 25 co-owners happy. And they How do
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: you keep co-investors happy that may not care about baseball
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: on the field? Make money. Drop hot dogs from heaven
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: and pack the yard at $ 42, 000 on a weekday afternoon
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: when you're a sub-500 team.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: You've been really good at that.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Exactly. So all the 24 co-owners are thinking, John Stanton,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: keep doing what you're doing. Jerry DiPoto works for me.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: All good. Well, yeah, we haven't made the World Series.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: So what? We're making money. We're profitable. We're not paying
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: luxury tax. This works. This has been a great investment.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I love my money being in the Mariners. I think
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: that's the root of all of this. And that, to me,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: is why John Stanton and the owners will not change
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: and not fire Jerry DiPoto when they should. If you
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: were more worried about the on-the-field product and making the
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: World Series, that move would have happened years ago. But
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: they aren't. So it hasn't. And that's why I think
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Jerry DiPoto stays. Now the question is, how do you
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: get out of the cycle of a yes-man manager who
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: has no managerial experience who will just push the iPad
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: buttons for you? That has to change. Will it under DiPoto?
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: That's the question to me that determines how successful the
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Mariners are getting out of this mess from this season.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: 49451 on the Tacoma Dodge text line. We'll read back
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: your text at 1130. But up next, we're going to
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: go to Phoenix. A.Q. Shipley is the radio analyst on
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: the play-by-play broadcast of the Cardinals, the Arizona Cardinals broadcast.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: They're just coming off a big win in the Chargers
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: in Los Angeles last weekend for their opener. A surprising win.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: And now they're hosting the Seahawks on Sunday. The Cardinals'
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: perspective of the Seahawks game on Sunday is up next
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: on 93.3 KJRFM. Hello from Seahawks headquarters. Headlines are brought
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: to you by Frostbrew Coors Light. As cold as the Rockies,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: AQ Shipley, radio analyst for the Cardinals in Arizona, joins
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: us right after these headlines. Seahawks practice, Sam Donald was
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: in cleats, thrown off to the side, doing dropbacks before
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: practice yesterday, seven days after he strained his glute and
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: left the season opener after just five plays. Donald did
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: not practice yesterday. Drew Locke did, and he's going to
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: start on Sunday at Arizona. Coach Mike McDonald said the
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: team will roll with just two quarterbacks, Locke and Jalen Milrow,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: and not sign another one. Nicky Manwari was in full pads,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: but again, limited in practice yesterday. Safety hasn't fully practiced
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: since mid-June. He had arthroscopic surgery on the ankle, of course,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: in July. But wide receiver Torrey Horton was full go
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: yesterday on track to make his season debut Sunday against
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals. Week two of the NFL season begins tonight
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: in Buffalo or outside Buffalo in Orchard Park, New York.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Detroit coming off an overtime win over the Saints, playing
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: the Bills in their first game at their new Palace Stadium,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: their first regular season game. Mariners, yeah, they're still playing.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: They won last night at Anaheim, too little too late.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: They've lost both the series at the A's and the
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Angels to begin this nine-game road trip. Nine games left
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: in the most disappointing, frustrating season in franchise history. The
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: text line is blowing up about your opinions about Jerry DiPoto,
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: and most of you share the opinion I have about him.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: See you later, but that's not going to happen. The
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Storm return from the WNBA break from the World Basketball
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Championships tonight. They're hosting the Las Vegas Aces at Climate
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Pledge Arena. The Washington Huskies are hosting Eastern Washington on
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Saturday at Husky Stadium 415, right here live on your
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: home of the Huskies, 93.3 KJR FM. We're also the
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: home of the Kraken, who are starting training camp today,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: NHL training camp at the Kraken Community Iceplex in Northgate.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: The Winnipeg Jets are starting their training camp and suspending
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: star goalie, 2025 NHL MVP, Connor Hellebug. He hasn't reported
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: to training camp, so they've suspended him. College football, former
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Washington Huskies defensive coordinator Steve Belichick resigned today as the
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: North Carolina defensive coordinator after an internal investigation by the
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: school into the football program's culture under his father, head
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: coach Bill Belichick. UNC announced the finding of its investigation
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: today in conjunction with Steve Belichick's resignation, saying in a
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: statement that the probe revealed, quote, isolated disregard for values
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: and standards of conduct in the UNC program. The Seahawks
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: are practicing again today here at Seahawks headquarters, which is
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: why I'm here. Drew Locke's going to be the number
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: one quarterback, as he will Sunday, when the Seahawks play
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: week two at the Arizona Cardinals, who are coming off
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: an upset win at the Los Angeles Chargers last weekend.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: So why not go live to Phoenix, to the desert,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: to find out the Cardinals' side of this showdown in
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: the NFC West. Week two on Sunday, and that's A.Q. Shipley.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: He's the radio analyst for the Cardinals radio broadcast. He
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: joins us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline, former NFL player,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: former Cardinals starter. He's also from my neck of the woods, Coriopolis, Pennsylvania. Hello, sir.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: I grew up in Steubenville, Ohio, about 30 minutes west
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: of the airport where you grew up in Pittsburgh. Hello, sir.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go. Steubenville Pike.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: I know a lot about that. All right. There you go.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: The wave pool? They had the wave pool when I
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: was growing up there in Tonydale. That's right. That's right.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: That's right. Well, sir, I got to ask you, you're
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals broadcaster, so perhaps it didn't surprise you as
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: much as it did everybody else, but did it surprise
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: you how the Cardinals handled the Chargers? Dominating time at possession,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: 37 and a half minutes to 22 and a half,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: running the ball, balanced offense, a defense holding the Chargers
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: at just 268 yards and 51 plays. What stood out
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: to you about how the Birds took down the Chargers
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: last week?
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: Well, I think when you look at their offense, that
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: was the one thing that did not surprise me. I
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: think we watched the entire preseason. We watched the sequencing
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: of plays and the way that Coach LaFleur called plays
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: all preseason and had success with the second team, the
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: third team, the fourth team. The first team, I think,
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: only got one drive against the Raiders. Trey McBride only
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: played one play. So there was a lot of guys
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: on the offensive side of the football team that didn't
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: play a lot. So the twos, threes, and fours executed
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: that offense and put up a lot of yards and
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: some points. And I was like, okay, I can see
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: exactly where this is going once you input the starter.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: So that side of the ball did not surprise me.
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: The other side, going into the season, I think everybody
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: looked at it and was like, okay, this defense is
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: not going to be very good. In order for the
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: Cardinals to have to win games, they're going to have
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: to get into shootouts and just outscore people. Well, that
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: wasn't the case. The defense showed up. They played well
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: up front. They stopped the run, and then in the
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: pass game, I thought, you know, free agent acquisition, Dewey
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: Wingard was a massive piece to the puzzle, and then
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: Mack Wilson, who was hurt a lot last year, he
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: comes back at linebacker, and he played exceptionally well.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: That defense, it's mainly a 3-4, right? And it's changed
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: a lot since the Todd Bowles era and the way
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: they blitz a lot. What's signature now? I'm thinking Cardinals, blitzing,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: pressure defenses from the past. How different or the same
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: is it from then?
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: It's honestly, I mean, I've been with Todd Bowles as
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: a player a long time, whenever I was obviously with
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: the Cardinals and down in Tampa Bay, I got to
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: play with him as my defensive coordinator and then obviously
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: coach with him as a defensive coordinator. And so whenever
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: I think of that defense, I think the structure is
• 48:39
  Speaker 5: 3-4 and I think the structure is heavy blitz, right?
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: I think Nick Rawless is more of a And Jonathan Gannon,
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: who was the former head coach here, he came up
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: under his wings and, you know, almost like a Brian Flores,
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: Eber Flus kind of hybrid in that system. And so
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: what that is more, it's heavy five DBs. You're playing
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: heavy nickel. You're playing five guys up front, which is
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: going to give you a 3-4 structure on the front.
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: But on the back end, it's all the crazy combinations
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: they can do with one linebacker or two, mostly one linebacker.
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: And then you get all these different 5 or 6
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: DB combinations, and you don't know if Buda Baker's playing
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: linebacker and blitzing or if he's playing the deep third
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: and center.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: And coverage.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: And so I think that's where it gets confusing, especially
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: from an offensive line standpoint, which is my expertise, is
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: being able to identify these guys and where they are
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: in the run schemes because do you count Buda Baker
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: as a linebacker? Do you count him as a safety?
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: Do you count Dewey Winger as a linebacker? Do you
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: count him as a safety?
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: How do you expect the Cardinals to handle Jackson Smith
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: and Jigba, AQ? Smith and Jigba had five of the
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: first seven catches the other night against the Patriots. Again,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: the preponderance of targets went his way. Now you've got
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Drew Locke in the backup quarterback who's probably going to
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: rely when he does pass the ball to Jackson Smith
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: and Jigba. Do you expect the Cardinals to shell? Do
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: you expect them to really shade to him? How do
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: you expect them to defend with all those defensive backs
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: you're talking about?
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: I guess the question is, has anybody been able to
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: stop Jackson Smith and Jigba? I think that's probably the
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: question right now, right? He's the Offensive Player of the
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: Year for a reason. You see him take a five-yard
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: stop route into whatever it was, 50-60 the other day.
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's a dynamic player. He's a special player.
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: You know, if I'm sitting there putting my coaching brain
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: and coaching thinking out there, I try and do what
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: Bill Belichick did and what made Bill Belichick special for
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: all those years, and that was, okay, let's try and
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: eliminate him, whether it's double-team him, shade to him, whatever
• 50:37
  Speaker 5: it may be, but let's try and let the other
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: guys beat us. And I think with, you know, a
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: backup quarterback who obviously showed that he can play just
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: as well in this system, which only speaks to how
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: good of a coach, you know, offensively they have up there.
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: And so I think what you try and do is
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: you try and try and win first and second down.
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: That is the biggest way to beat anybody. And especially
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: in explosive offense, you try and win first and second down.
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: So try and stop the run, load the box, trying
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: to eliminate the easy passes, which are the play actions, right?
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: If you stop the run, you can kind of eliminate
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: the play actions and get you into a third and
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: drop back game. And that's the game that you want
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: to live in, especially on defense, especially against a very
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: good offense with as much talent as they have in Seattle.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: This is A.Q. Shipley, 12-year NFL offensive lineman, Pittsburgh area native.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: He's the Cardinals radio broadcaster here joining us on 93.3
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: KJR FM about the Seahawks-Cardinals game on Saturday, Sunday in Glendale.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: Chargers game last week for the Cardinals, 44% outside zone
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: runs by Arizona's offense. You being an offensive lineman, that
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: tells me the key to Arizona's offense are the tackles.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Paris Johnson, Trey McBride, Elijah Wilkinson, Trey McBride, the tight end,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: the blocking with the tackles. How central is that? Do
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: you think that's going to be a consistent Arizona 40-plus
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: percent outside zone and their heavily reliance on it? And
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: how are Paris Johnson and Elijah Wilkinson playing in this game?
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's absolutely what is going to be their bread
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: and butter. There's no doubt about that. I mean, I
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: think when you think of what this offense is, think
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: it's L.A. Rams 2.0. I think when you look at
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: Sean McVay, if you go back even when he first
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: got there and Todd Gurley was the running back for
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: the L.A. Rams, it was primarily only outside zone. There
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: was really not much off of that. Then as he's evolved,
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: he's put together a multiple tight end package, a downhill
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: kind of gap scheme world with it that kind of
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: complements the outside zone. But I think when you think
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: of it, it's still heavy outside zone. That's exactly what
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: Coach LaFleur has brought over here. The unique thing about
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: him is he has worked for, in my opinion, the
• 52:38
  Speaker 5: two best offensive coaches in all of football. And, you know,
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: over the last seven years, he's been with the LA
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: Rams and the San Francisco 49ers. So he's going to
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: bring an element of both of those offenses, which, again,
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: both live heavily in the outside zone world. So that's
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: going to be the bread and butter. And then what
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: do they do off of that? Is it going to
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: be gap scheme? Is it going to be heavy play
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: action off of that? You also have a 6'6, 250-pound
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: quarterback who looks like a glorified defensive end back there.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: So there is a little bit more of an element
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: of drop-back pass because he's able to see over the
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: line and do all that stuff. But, yeah, I think
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: when you talk about it, it's Paris Johnson, it's Elijah Wilkinson,
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: it's the multiple tight end sets, it's whether you're keeping
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: them to the side or you're running the play action. But, yes,
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: it's a heavy outside zone world.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you about the quarterback, Jacoby Brissett. They've
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: got Gardner Minshew there as well, but Brissette, the starter,
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: the contract situation in the offseason resolving itself. Cardinals say,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: here's your money, and he took it. How are they different?
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: How do they play? You mentioned how big he is.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: He's still a running threat even though he's up in
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: age now, but Jacoby Brissette, what's the Cardinals' offense like
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: with him as quarterback?
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: Listen, I love Jacoby Brissette. I don't think he gets
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: enough credit. I heard Richard Sherman, who's one of your guys'
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: all-time greats, talk this week about the same exact thing
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: that He doesn't get enough credit. I mean, he's just
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: only been efficient every single place he's ever been. He
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: goes to Indianapolis, and you have the whole Andrew Luck fiasco,
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: and he steps in, and he plays well. Do they
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: win at all? Do they win a bunch of games
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: and get to the playoffs? No, but he's been efficient.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: He's super smart. He's learned from some of the best.
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: Early on, he gets to sit behind Tom Brady and
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: learn from him. Then you find out that one of
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: his biggest mentors is Bill Parcells, one of the greatest
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: to ever do it. and you find out exactly why
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: he is who he is, and he's a heck of
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: a leader. The locker room loves him. He's efficient. Last
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: week he took, he completes, you know, 17 to 27
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: throws for 275 yards. And you know, he's, that's who
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: he gives you. The minute that Kyler goes down last year,
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: he steps in, you know, he knows exactly what the
• 54:44
  Speaker 5: progression is, who is number one, number two, number three,
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: number four outlet is on every single play. If he
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: gets in trouble, he's able to make some type of move,
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: and at least keep the play alive. He doesn't turn
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: the ball over. He's efficient with the ball. That's who
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: he is. And then you look at the outside, and
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: we've got a ton of skill here. I mean, Michael
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: Wilson's become a bona fide superstar. Marvin Harrison is still
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: trying to come into his own. But then you've got
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: Trey McBride. You've got Kendrick Bourne, who steps up with
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: eight catches last week. And you've got a crowded running
• 55:11
  Speaker 5: back room with Algier and Jeremiah Love. So a ton
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: of talent for him to throw to and distribute to.
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: But you're going to see an efficient offense, and you're
• 55:18
  Speaker 5: going to see him take care of the football.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Algier and Jeremiah Love. Most people think
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: third overall pick is going to be the number one back,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: but yet last week Love got 11 carries and a
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: touchdown to Algier's 17 carries. Do you expect that to
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: be the way it goes here Sunday? Are they ramping
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: Love up and gradually introducing him to the NFL, or
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: is he going to get the lead back here sooner
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: than later?
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: I think what most people, your average casual fans, don't
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: realize is how different the NFL game is than the
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: college game. There's so much more that goes into it.
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: So I think I love what they're doing right now.
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: I love that they're being patient with them. I think
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: Tyler Algier is a superstar. He was sitting behind another
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: superstar and Bijan Robinson. Now he's getting an opportunity to
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: kind of be the one right now and take advantage
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: of that opportunity with a guy that's very talented behind them.
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: But what most people don't understand, it's not just running
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: the football anymore. I mean, these blitzes are so complex and,
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: you know, there's so much more. And even so where
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: it's different than colleges, you know, when you come from
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: a school like Notre Dame, that you're running through holes
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: that are seven, seven yards wide. Well, sometimes in the NFL,
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: if you even go back and look, I've watched, I
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: do a bunch of stuff nationally for the Pat McAfee show.
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: And so I watch every game and you watch Brees
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: Hall skinny through holes that are the size of a crack. Right.
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: And I think that's the biggest difference that you have
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: to learn as a college running back when you get
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: here is is you're not always going to be running
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: through massive holes like you did in college. So we
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: got to, we got to be patient. We got to
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: slow things down. We got to set up our blocks.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: We got to understand that the whole disappears very quickly
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: at this level. And then, Oh, by the way, if
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: you want to be on the field on third down,
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: you better understand blitzes and understand protections and understand how
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: complex these things are, which is a lot to ask
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: of a rookie running back. I think you guys did
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: the same thing last week. You could have put Jadarian
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: price in there for 30, 30, 30 reps. And he
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: ends up getting what seven carries or whatever it was. And,
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: 10 carries, I mean, he looked very, very good when
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: he was in there. But again, same thing. Let's not
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: load up these rookies' plates too much, especially if there's
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: a veteran in there that can spell them. And now
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: you can learn on the fly, and you can get
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: your feet wet and just gradually ramp up as the
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: season goes.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Good point by A.Q. Shipley there, the Cardinals radio analyst
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: talking about the NFL running back. You mentioned the blitzing,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: and that's Jeremiah Love. That's Jadarian Price. That's their biggest
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: thing they need to learn is pass blocking in the
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: pass game. against modern NFL defenses. He's joining us on
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: the Beacon Plumbing Hotline from Phoenix. I understand you have
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: a cross-background with our producer co-host here, Jessamyn McIntyre, with
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: her father, Coach Mack.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: We do.
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think my dad got him because
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: he ended up going to Penn State. Yeah, we do
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: have some cross-background, which was so nice to.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Learn, AQ.
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: Absolutely. I saw the 516 number come in, and I
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: was like, okay, that's Long Island.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: My two.
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: My two college roommates and two of my best friends
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: from Penn State were Long Island guys. And then, fortunately
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: for me, I got drafted to the Pittsburgh Steelers and
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: longtime NFL offensive lineman Willie Colon, who was one of
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: my teammates early in my career, actually played at Hofstra. So, yeah,
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: it's the smallest world ever once you make these connections.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: Once it's football. Football is family, in my mind. And
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: this is why I like making connections. He said, is
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: that a 5-1-6? And I said, yes, it is.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: And then.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: What were you going to say? Can you hear me?
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: We got you.
• 58:49
  Speaker 5: Thank you. I've always thought the world of Long Island
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: because they were some of the toughest guys that I
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: ever played with. Everybody that I ever met that came
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: from Long Island were tough guys. I mean, this guy,
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: Rich Ormberg, who I played with, who actually does radio
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: now in San Diego area, but, I mean, he was
• 59:05
  Speaker 5: one of the toughest guys I ever played with. Played
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: at Penn State, got drafted by New England, got a
• 59:09
  Speaker 5: bunch of starts. in the NFL, San Diego Chargers, Arizona Cardinals. So, yeah,
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: I got an affinity for Long Island.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I started bartending when I was 17 down there.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I learned how to be tough. But it's
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: just amazing.
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: And I think that our listeners would just love to
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: hear the fact that we all have these connections through sports.
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: And I think it's a beautiful thing. So I just
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: I appreciate, Greg, you bringing that up.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem. How did Willie Colon hook you up?
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: When you first got to the Steelers, did he take
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: care of you under his wing?
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: I don't think taking care of me is one way
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: to put it.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Back in those days, it was.
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: I don't know how much is still going on in
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: the NFL, but I mean, man, rookies, rookies kind of
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: had it bad. I don't, I don't want to use
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: the word hazing.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: But I mean, it was, you had to do a
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: lot of stuff.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: And so you always, I mean, you still see the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: stuff where they have to stand in front of the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: room and sing and tell their signing bonus and sing
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: a song, whatever it is.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: So that whole thing was going on. He's a great
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: story with Willie and I, and he's become obviously one
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: of my better friends. I learned very quickly kind of, okay, let's,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: let's respect our elders. Let's, let's, let's get that underhand.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, as a rookie earlier in the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: day at training camp, we're in St. Vincent college playing
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: for the Pittsburgh Steelers during training camp. I'm at lunch.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 5: They're like ship, get up and sing. So I get
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: up and sing. I sing last dance with Mary Jane
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: by Tom Petty. I think I nailed it. Just had
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: to say that first of all, and finish, finish that song.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, okay, cool. I got my, I got
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: my singing out of the way.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: I'm good.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: Well, later on in the day, we have a team meeting.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin's the head coach. He's running like a couple
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: minutes behind. So Everybody's like, okay, well, what time does
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: this 2 o'clock meeting start? Coach T's not in yet,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: so let's send another rookie up. AQ, get up and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: sing again. I'm like, no, I'm good.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I'm not singing. I already sang.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: I already did it today.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: You got a callback. And they're like, oh, yeah.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: They're like, oh, okay, cool. Like, Rook, you sure you
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: don't want to get up and sing? I'm like, no, no,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 5: I'm good. I already did my singing. They're like, well,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: if we tell you to get up and sing again,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: you got to get up and sing again. I'm like, no,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: I'm not doing it. Lo and behold, we go out
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: to practice. I come back. my clothes that I wore
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: to practice, I'd shorts, t-shirt wallet in there, everything tied
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: up in duct tape, connected to a five pound plate
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: at the bottom of the cold plunge, completely frozen, soaking
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: wet wall. It's gone. I got to go in under
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: to get my clothes back, then get them dry. I mean,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: I was there an extra hour. So lo and behold,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: there's a, There's my story.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Wait, Willie did that?
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: All the veterans did. I mean, there was a veteran heavy. Yeah,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: he was he was he was in on that group.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: I love that group.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: He came very close with him.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: OK, well, I've got a good Willie story. I was
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: walking through. It was the Super Bowl was in Houston.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: I'm good friends with DQ Dan Quinn, who is now
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: the head coach of the Commanders. And my best friend
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: that I grew up with was working for him at
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: the time. I was working for John Clayton's show and
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: was at the Super Bowl with him. And I overhear
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: someone on Radio Row say Willie Colon's name. And I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: walked over, immediately hugged him, hadn't seen him in years.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: And then he invites me to a party that night. And,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: you know, Super Bowl is all parties. So I go.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: He's got the whole tab covered and everything. And I
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: was like, well, I'm going to buy a round, whatever.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: I will just say it was J.W.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: Are the initials of what he was drinking. And I
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: blew my entire tab on getting him a couple shots.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: And it was so funny. He was to be respectful.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: He was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: You do not pay. And I was like, I got it, Billy.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: I got it. Okay.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: I'm in debt now.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: I'm in debt. Thank you. I got it. I got
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: to ask you what an offensive lineman, 12 years in
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: offensive lineman working with a punter. Pat McAfee has become
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: this WWE-like superstar now. How can an offensive lineman coexist
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: with a punter on the air?
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. First things first, he's from Pittsburgh,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 5: and I've never met anybody from Pittsburgh I didn't like.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: There you go. So we will start there. And that's
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: honestly how we met. It was funny because he was
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: at the College Football Awards show up for the punter
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: award the same year I was up for the college
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: football and won the Remington Trophy. So we're down there.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: remember they used to do this big show on ESPN
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: college football. Now it's become virtual, but back in the day,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: they'd fly everybody into Disney. You're at the Disney boardwalk.
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  Speaker 5: And we end up kind of meeting that way. And
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  Speaker 5: we're like room next to each other. Cause they were,
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  Speaker 5: from regionally. And so like West Virginia, Penn state, right
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  Speaker 5: next to each other, we end up like, they're like,
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  Speaker 5: they have a curfew for us at like 10. And
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  Speaker 5: we're like, we're definitely not going to be there for curfew. Right.
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  Speaker 5: Like we're, we should go out and, So him and
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: I go out, have a good time. And actually that
• 1:04:12
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  Speaker 5: game day every weekend. Who's Pat sitting next to it's
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  Speaker 5: Kirk Herbstreet, right? That was the first time that we
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: ever spent some time together with Kirk Herbstreet. He was
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: out at the same bar restaurant that we ended up
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: finding ourselves in at, I don't know, 1130, 12 o'clock
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  Speaker 5: at night, whatever it was. And that was our first
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  Speaker 5: time kind of hanging out. And here we are years
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: later and we're all kind of interconnected in some way,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: shape or form. But, Fast forward three years later, I
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: signed with the Indianapolis Colts, and he ends up being
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: in the locker next to me. So we hit it
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: off for three years, and we've been in each other's weddings.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we go way back, and Superstar is only
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: the start for him. I mean, he's going to the
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  Speaker 5: moon right now.
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  Speaker 3: Those are amazing stories. I love that. I met Pat
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: McAfee at the Cheez-It Bowl, which.
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  Speaker 4: He was working for ESPN and I was.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: Working for Washington State.
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  Speaker 4: I am the sideline reporter for our radio broadcast.
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  Speaker 2: Was that in Vegas?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: Was that in Vegas?
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  Speaker 3: No, it was in Arizona, I believe.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: Oh, that was one in Arizona.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: And he was sitting on top of a gigantic Cheez-It
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: box and I got to meet him and I'm like, dude,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: you just like say yes to everything.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: And this is amazing.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: He's incredible.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: He's so good. He's only getting better every year you
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: watch him. He's become the face of ESPN, obviously. He's
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: the smartest guy I've ever been around.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: Greg and I were talking last night, and I said
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: offensive linemen were the smartest people, and Greg said the
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: same exact thing.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: So, thank you, AQ.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. AQ Shipley, thanks for joining us. I'll
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: see you in the press box in Glendale on Sunday.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, sir.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, looking forward to it.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: A.Q. Shipley, longtime NFL offensive line, former center for the
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals, former one-time coach for the Cardinals, now the
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: radio analyst for Arizona Cardinals football broadcast. He'll be on
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: the call, the Arizona call, of the Seahawks and Cardinals.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: He says expect outside zone, expect Tyler Algier, quite a
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: bit of it, even though they drafted Jeremiah Love third
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: overall in the draft. Expect a lot of Algier, a
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: lot of outside zone. Against the Seahawks, that puts DeMarcus Lawrence,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Leonard Williams, who played a lot of defensive end in
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: game one, more defensive end than the defensive tackle for
• 1:06:27
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• 1:06:30
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• 1:06:34
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• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Moffey was because he sets the edge on the run.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: How does he do that against the outside zone against
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals? That's going to be a key to Sunday's game.
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  Speaker 13: Hey guys, GM Talk here. There are so many young
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  Speaker 13: candidates out there, Jess. You go to the Brewers organization,
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  Speaker 13: they have about four guys that I would hire right
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  Speaker 14: A quick comment here on message delivery. Jessamyn, if you
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  Speaker 3: I do appreciate constructive criticism.
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  Speaker 4: I was not aware that I did that all the time. I, me, myself,
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  Speaker 3: It's okay to make a change, Greg.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I took Eastern Washington plus the bushel of 43
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  Speaker 2: A little bit of hometown pick. I'm just not sold
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think, yeah. 206, couple thoughts on DiPoto.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: I believe he has admitted to not paying attention to
• 1:12:34
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  Speaker 2: Correct on that observation. Further, however, he also hasn't paid
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• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: he's the MVP of the team, Cole Young. Corner outfield,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: that's a pretty low bar this year. Corner outfield sparts
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  Speaker 2: are abysmal unless Robles plays, which is not often. Hard
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• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: really pushed Jerry DiPoto to sign Colton Wong, Ron Refschneider,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Taylor Ward, A.J. Pollock, Mitch Garver, who's responsible for those
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  Speaker 2: brilliant signings? Taylor Ward's hitting like 110 since they traded
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  Speaker 2: for him.
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  Speaker 5: 509.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Everyone needs to speak with their wallets. Hit ownership where
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: it hurts next season. Boycott DMs to force change. We've
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  Speaker 2: talked about this.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard that before, too, in seasons past.
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  Speaker 2: But there are so many casual fans in Seattle. People
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  Speaker 2: who aren't from here. People who love to come out
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  Speaker 2: here in the summer and visit. People that are coming
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: through Seattle on the way to Alaska for cruises. And
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: let's go to a ball game because it's 75 degrees
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  Speaker 2: at night. There are so many of those fans... who
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  Speaker 2: don't even know the Mariners haven't been to the World Series,
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  Speaker 2: nor do they care.
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  Speaker 3: They want to go out for a good time at
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: the ballpark.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: And that's why they do a good job at that.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: It's almost as if it would be better off if
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: they were playing in the concrete dome of the kingdom
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: again so that nobody could enjoy the game as much
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: as they do in the setting and actually care about
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  Speaker 2: the baseball. Yeah, it is such an interesting dichotomy of–
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: that's another word for it– dichotomy of the Mariners.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: I use that word a lot. That's not nerd alert worthy.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Not alert.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: No. But it is a juxtaposition that you have.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that one counts.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: That you have.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: Sorry, it just has to be done.
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  Speaker 5: Nerd alert.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: It's such a juxtaposition that you have a huge segment.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, like 3.5 million Mariner fans paying through the
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: turnstiles every season that A large percentage of them don't
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: really care about the on-field product being so dysfunctional and
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: so disappointing. But then you have so many more millions
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: that watch on television and are not in Seattle and
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: not in the ballpark or listen on the radio or
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: are in Australia or in Florida. They used to live
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: in Seattle. Those fans are fed up. But those fans
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: aren't the ones paying the freight and buying the tickets
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: and gobbling up the hot dogs from heaven and the
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: bobbleheads and the Funko Pops. It's such a juxtaposition. It
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: is unique to my– I've done this for now 28,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: 30 years, writing sports since my Army officer career. And
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: I don't remember a team whose fan base is so
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: split between the in-park experience, in-stadium experience, And the reality
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: of everything else, meaning the bottom line of the team.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: It is so different. And when you have 20 plus owners,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: all they care about is how many butts are in seats.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: And the butts in seats are good. It's a healthy
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: business that the Mariners are running.
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  Speaker 3: It is a really good time.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can't deny that.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: And it's not the fault of that side of things.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: It is also. So where does the buck stop?
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: 206 says, Greg is dead on regarding large Mariner ownership group.
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  Speaker 2: I have a daughter who is sitting in an owner's box,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: and she called me. I told her to ask the
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: owner what she thought of the Mariner's ownership group. This
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: owner laughed and said, Mariner fans are screwed. They have
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: way too many people in their ownership group. Anyway, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think it's changing. I think Jerry DiPoto's staying because
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: the business is working. And the owners, the 20-plus owners,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: plus John Stanton, say, bottom line, good. We're getting plus revenues.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: We're doing fine. We're drawing 3.8 million fans, 37,000 a game.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: Hot dogs from heaven. It's all working. So, Jerry, keep
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: doing what you're doing. 54%?
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  Speaker 4: Sure.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: We didn't even get that this year.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: We look kind of nice right now.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: We got, what, 48%. Ian Furness is out at the
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Kraken Community Iceplex because this is the first day of
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: NHL Kraken training camp. We'll talk to him on what
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: he has going on on his show from Puckland next
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: on 93.3 KJRFM. Welcome back to the Virginia Mason Athletic
• 1:17:10
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• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Jessamyn McIntyre. If you missed our talk with A.Q. Shipley,
• 1:17:17
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• 1:17:20
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• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: He'd break him down the Cardinals side of the game
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: on Sunday for the Seahawks in Glendale, Arizona. Tomorrow is
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: a Washington State Beef Commission's Football Friday. You remember that.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: And you remember that every Friday we do high school football.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: We feature a game of the week in the state.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: And tomorrow, I saw the text line 253 saying it
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: should be, tomorrow's game of the week should be Puyallup
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: at Lake Stevens. It easily could be top 4A teams
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: in the state. But we want to spread it around.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: And we had Lake Stevens on two weeks ago with
• 1:17:53
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• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: class of 2A powers. Archbishop Murphy is going to Anacortes,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: a battle of one against three in class 2A in
• 1:18:05
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• 1:18:08
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• 1:18:11
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• 1:18:16
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• 1:18:18
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• 1:18:21
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• 1:18:24
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• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: Hello, sir.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: It feels too early. It feels too early, my friends.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: It is early, right?
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 12: I think you know why. I was telling John Forslund,
• 1:18:32
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• 1:18:35
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• 1:18:38
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• 1:18:40
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• 1:18:44
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• 1:18:46
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• 1:18:48
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• 1:18:51
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• 1:18:53
  Speaker 12: you're there every day we're doing all these things and
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  Speaker 12: and um you know as we're doing all that uh
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  Speaker 12: i'm like okay season's in let's go training camps over
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  Speaker 12: then all of a sudden oh training camp starts for
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  Speaker 12: the hockey team it's whole like i'm not ready for
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  Speaker 12: another training camp i'll be honest i'm not in shape Greg,
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  Speaker 12: not in shape for training camp.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be honest.
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  Speaker 12: Not in shape, but yeah, we're underway.
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  Speaker 4: I say that about sideline reporting where I'm like, standing
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  Speaker 4: is a shape you have to be in.
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  Speaker 11: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It is. It is. What is training camp, Ian, at
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  Speaker 2: the NHL? It's very different.
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  Speaker 12: It's very different.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what do they do?
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  Speaker 12: Well, there's about 50 guys here, roughly. Well, a little
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  Speaker 12: less than that because that's the roster, but there's There's
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  Speaker 12: about 45 guys here. They split them into two groups.
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  Speaker 12: They go morning sessions, afternoon sessions, and if you're not
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  Speaker 12: on the ice and you're in the gym and you're
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  Speaker 12: doing meetings and you're doing film and all that stuff,
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  Speaker 12: so there's some similarities to, say, the NFL, but it's short.
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  Speaker 12: These guys mostly, they're expected to come in in shape
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  Speaker 12: and ready to go and ready to fly, and they've
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  Speaker 12: been skating and they've been on ice for the last
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  Speaker 12: couple months probably wherever their home is. A lot of
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  Speaker 12: them stayed here. It's an interesting dynamic where You know,
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  Speaker 12: everyone wants to trash the city and the organization and
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 12: all things Kraken in terms of national media and, you know,
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  Speaker 12: all that stuff that was talked about in the summer.
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  Speaker 12: And yet they had more people here, more players here
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  Speaker 12: in the summer, this summer, working out here at the
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  Speaker 12: Kraken Community Iceplex, especially in the last month or so
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  Speaker 12: than ever. So these guys have been getting their work in.
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  Speaker 12: Now it's, you know, now the coaching staff's implementing stuff
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  Speaker 12: and systems and, you know, power play systems, penalty kill systems,
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  Speaker 12: offensive zone stuff, all the things that they do. and
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  Speaker 12: all the young guys are here. The guys will end
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  Speaker 12: up in the American Hockey League, and then there's a
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  Speaker 12: handful of guys that will end up going back to
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  Speaker 12: junior hockey in the Western League or Ontario or what
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  Speaker 12: have you, and they play a preseason game on Saturday.
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  Speaker 12: Preseason game one is Saturday. Preseason game two is Sunday.
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  Speaker 12: They'll split those teams up, and away you go. They
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  Speaker 12: have a pretty good idea who's going to be on
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  Speaker 12: the team and who's going to be here in Seattle,
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  Speaker 12: but you never know. Maybe someone like a Berkeley Cat
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  Speaker 12: and did last year can surprise like a Jake O'Brien
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  Speaker 12: this year, but Um, yeah, it's just, it's, it's a grind,
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  Speaker 12: but it's not too bad of a grind. And all
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  Speaker 12: the other thing is the preseason is cut down, you know,
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  Speaker 12: from six to four games.
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  Speaker 2: So there's only two days of practice at training camp
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  Speaker 2: and then the game start and then there's just practice.
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  Speaker 12: And then, yeah, well, they'll play this weekend, have a
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  Speaker 12: couple of days of practice, play next Wednesday for a
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  Speaker 12: preseason game, then one more preseason game. And then season
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  Speaker 12: starts two weeks from today.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it's two weeks from today. Is that right?
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  Speaker 2: Is it two weeks from today?
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  Speaker 12: Is that October 4th?
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  Speaker 2: October something.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So are they like, yeah. Are they on
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  Speaker 2: two sheets of ice?
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  Speaker 12: Well, there's three sheets here, and the main one next
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  Speaker 12: to their lot, I'm looking at right now with all
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  Speaker 12: the stands, the second group is on the middle ice
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  Speaker 12: sheet right now, and they'll come over to this one
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  Speaker 12: here in a second. So it just depends on what
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 12: they're working on. They'll come wandering all across and in between.
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  Speaker 12: And then the goalies will get some extra work in
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 12: some of the sheets too. So, yeah, they utilize the
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  Speaker 12: whole facility.
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  Speaker 2: Who's the number one goalie going into camp in this season?
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  Speaker 12: I think it's still Joey, but... I mean, Grubauer had.
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  Speaker 2: A hell of a bounce-back season last year. He did.
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  Speaker 12: You can make an argument he was their MVP last year,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 12: to be honest with you. He was great last season,
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  Speaker 12: which is good to see, and good to see him
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  Speaker 12: bounce back. I'd say, which in hockey you kind of
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 12: want to have in a sense, they've got a 1-1-A,
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  Speaker 12: and I'm not sure what the pecking order is. I
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 12: would say right now it's Joey 1, Phil 2, but
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 12: that could change. That could change.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: What do you got from there today on the show?
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 12: One of the new captains, Vince Dunn, is going to
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 12: join us at 1 o'clock, which I'm excited. Vince, if
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 12: people never heard, Vince never holds back. So we'll hear
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 12: from him. I'm excited to talk to him coming up
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 12: at 1 o'clock. Ross Tucker joining us coming up today
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 12: at 1220. And then Greg, it's the unofficial start of
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 12: the weekend at 2 o'clock with Brandon Funston. Sorry, Jess,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 12: you won't be here.
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  Speaker 2: I miss him.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 12: I know, unofficial start of the weekend at 2 o'clock,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 12: so if you have a fantasy football question, it's one
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 12: of our most popular segments of the week. You guys
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 12: know the rules by now. You can text in 49451,
• 1:22:55
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• 1:22:58
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• 1:23:00
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• 1:23:02
  Speaker 12: with Funston for week two of fantasy football.
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  Speaker 2: Yet every week you have someone early, premature, don't you?
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  Speaker 12: We had three last week that were at 11, 59, 59,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 12: or 58.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 12: They tried, dude. They tried. And we did not answer
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 12: the questions.
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  Speaker 2: Of course not.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 12: You have standards.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: You have to draw a line.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: It's the Shockey rule.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's the Kevin Shockey rule. Once you break that, then,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 12: you know, it's anarchy.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: It's anarchy. There are no rules. Dogs and cats together.
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  Speaker 2: Dogs and cats together. Yeah, exactly. Thank you, Bill Murray. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for the reference. All right, that's Ian. You're going
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: to be from Krakenland from training camp coming up 12
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: to 3 next. I'll be going to Seahawks and talk
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: to Drew Locke here in a minute, and you'll hear
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: from him tomorrow on our show. And a Washington State
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: beef permission football Friday tomorrow. Archbishop Murphy at Anacortes, our
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: high school game of the week. We'll do that tomorrow
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: and talk to the Archbishop Murphy coach. All that's coming
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: up tomorrow. Thanks for listening. We'll do it again tomorrow
• 1:23:59
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