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"Make 'Brave New World' Fiction Again" (Friday November 14, 2025, Hour 2) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, why are democrats not louder at that time
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Speaker 1: about this ruse?
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Speaker 2: So a couple of things.
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Speaker 3: Number one, you have Penny what itation.
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Speaker 4: From the home of the first Amendment? First thing today.
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Speaker 7: You have a day at least for work. When the
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Speaker 10: Let me be, Joe, thank you for letting me be
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Speaker 10: of service to you this morning.
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Speaker 10: You can jump in with us as we tell you
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Speaker 10: what went on last night, and we will give you
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Speaker 10: our analysis of the evidence found in the debris field
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Speaker 10: of what went on last night. But most importantly, I
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Speaker 10: want to know how it's impacting you where you are
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Speaker 10: at four three four eight eight two four two one seven.
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Speaker 10: That can also be used as a text message hotline.
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Speaker 10: Bob writes in the present age is so flippant that
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Speaker 10: if a man loves the Savior, he's a fanatic, and
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Speaker 10: if he hates the powers of evil, he's a bigot,
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Speaker 10: more of a h Spurgeon. How much more applicable this
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Speaker 10: quote is in our day? Well, that is the crazy
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Speaker 10: land that we are. Up is down and down is up.
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Speaker 10: And it's not like we didn't even have literary warning.
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Speaker 10: And maybe that's the problem. Is all of our warnings
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Speaker 10: were sent to us through literature. And I used to
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Speaker 10: be of the mind that storytelling was how civilizations continued,
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Speaker 10: and I still believe it, but I'm teetering. I'm having
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Speaker 10: that belief challenged because we've warned and warned and warned
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Speaker 10: and warned and warned against this and literature every possible
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Speaker 10: way possible, whether it's Lord of the Rings or nineteen
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Speaker 10: eighty four, whether it's fanciful or almost literal. We have
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Speaker 10: spent page after page after patroon to warn our posterity
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Speaker 10: of the things that they were about to enact upon themselves,
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Speaker 10: and yet here we are. My favorite ball cap is
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Speaker 10: the red one that says, make nineteen eighty four fiction again,
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Speaker 10: because it really is truly where we've come is we're
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Speaker 10: living out brave new world. What's the pharmaceutical company that
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Speaker 10: manufactures milfa pristone? I mean, is that any different than
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Speaker 10: what the companies and you know, a little Milfa pristone
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Speaker 10: and some zoloft, and you've got soma. Only at least
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Speaker 10: in Brave New World you were encouraged to procreate and
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Speaker 10: make children. You were just told that once the pregnancy
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Speaker 10: was finished, the government was taking them from you. And
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Speaker 10: here's your soma, and have a nice day. Tell me
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Speaker 10: that was science fiction when that when eldest Huxley wrote that.
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Speaker 10: But I still believe storytelling is how we inform our
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Speaker 10: posterity as Turning Point USA. But it's difficult, man. It
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Speaker 10: is so we detail the things that went on, and
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Speaker 10: here are our first things. Members of the Democratic National
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Speaker 10: Committee and their employees are being mercilessly mocked because story
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Speaker 10: has leaked to the press that DNC chair Ken Martin
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Speaker 10: had ordered all DNC staffers to end remote work and
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Speaker 10: start returning to the offices five days a week. Leadership
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Speaker 10: of the union put out a statement following the news,
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Speaker 10: calling it callous. Can't imagine why the Internet would find
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Speaker 10: approved consent decree that limited who could be detained under
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Speaker 10: US immigration law. US District Judge Jeffrey Cummings ordered the release,
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Speaker 10: but not in his neighborhood, citing a pattern of now
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Speaker 10: considered unlawful arrests and containment. While government employees had to
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Speaker 10: get through the shutdown on the promise of receiving back pay,
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Speaker 10: including congressional staffers, many members of Congress collected more than
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Speaker 10: twenty thousand dollars a piece during the shutdown down. The
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Speaker 10: and silver, because I don't believe you can buy and
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Speaker 10: share futures in cranberries at jcsgold dot com. But I'm
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Speaker 10: curious to see if there was a run on their
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Speaker 10: counters there, Good morning, James. How are you, sir?
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Speaker 19: I'm Jill wal Joe. We have not had a run
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Speaker 19: on twenty twenty five pennies. They actually have been very
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Speaker 19: actually admitted here in twenty twenty five. So that's a
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Speaker 19: that's a great thing to keep an eye out for.
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Speaker 10: Well, I'll tell you though, if you if you pressed little,
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Speaker 10: you know, quarter inch discs out of pure copper, they'd
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Speaker 10: be worth something, though definitely more than a penny, right, Yeah,
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Speaker 10: amen to that. So how you were saying.
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Speaker 19: This morning, gold is down twenty five dollars about half
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Speaker 19: a percent in the red to four one hundred and
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Speaker 19: forty five dollars. Silver, on the other hand, is right
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Speaker 19: at even on the day at fifty two.
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Speaker 10: Dollars and twenty five cents.
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Speaker 19: Silver holding up a little bit better to start off
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Speaker 19: this Friday, so we'll see where they go. But getting
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Speaker 19: a little dip here early morning in gold.
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Speaker 10: Well, you can shop anytime, and I don't think is
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Speaker 10: it too early you have the Christmas rounds in or
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Speaker 10: is that coming soon? Beautiful silver ornament slash investments that
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Speaker 10: you can get at jcsgold dot com. Is it too
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Speaker 10: soon to be asking about that?
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Speaker 19: Yeah, they're probably our most popular item of the year,
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Speaker 19: of course, and they have been ordered. They are not
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Speaker 19: in stock yet, but the order has been placed and
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Speaker 19: they're on the way they Like you said, they are
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Speaker 19: one outs of your silver with different Christmas and winter
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Speaker 19: themes on them, and they make a great gift. And
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Speaker 19: they also come in a hard, air tight plastic holder
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Speaker 19: that has a little leaf at the top, so they
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Speaker 19: can be a Christmas ornament as well. And like I said,
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Speaker 19: probably our most popular item. We are going to sell
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Speaker 19: those on our website at jcscol dot com, So if
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Speaker 19: be on the lookoutter that as soon as they get
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Speaker 19: in while I'll add them there to the website.
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, I appreciate it, sir. You have a great weekend
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Speaker 10: twenty four to seven. You can shop anytime, go online
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Speaker 10: anytime this weekend, or call them after ten this morning
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Speaker 10: Eastern at four three four nine seven nine coin. You
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Speaker 10: have a great weekend, James, thanks showing you too. Uh
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Speaker 10: And Joel is hanging on the line with us at
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Speaker 10: four three four eight eight two four two one seven.
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Speaker 10: I've triggered in with something. Lord knows, We've thrown enough
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Speaker 10: out onto the table so far today, so I'm not
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Speaker 10: sure what you're picking from the breakfast buffe. But what's
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Speaker 10: what's got you hyped up this morning?
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Speaker 20: Good morning, Jude's Joel, Yeah, no, I just.
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Speaker 10: Said, Joel's on the line with this, but that's you
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Speaker 10: may you might not have heard of me. Just don't
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Speaker 10: call me my friend. Okay.
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Speaker 20: I just wanted to say this, and I think this
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Speaker 20: is really important for the Republican Party and I think
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Speaker 20: they need to work better on their brand loyalty because
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Speaker 20: I guess through these elections, the eighteen through twenty nine
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Speaker 20: year old women voted more democratically, and then the people
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Speaker 20: that were supposed to show up, a lot of the
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Speaker 20: Republicans didn't show up. And I don't know if that's
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Speaker 20: consistent with other elections. You know, both of those.
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Speaker 10: Well coming up. You know there's a there's a controversy,
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Speaker 10: and I know, as JFK once said, victory as one
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Speaker 10: hundred fathers and defeat as an orphan. I wrote a
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Speaker 10: column and I think it's going to publish. I'm not
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Speaker 10: sure when it. It's a podcast for the Daily Signal,
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Speaker 10: but it features Republican Party chair Scott Pyo. He is
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Speaker 10: a chair of the infamous Louden County. You know, infamous
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Speaker 10: the county is because of the things that the school
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Speaker 10: division is allowed to happen in its bathrooms with supposedly
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Speaker 10: transgender boys but the chair of the Louden County Republican
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Speaker 10: Party is hauled the party out behind the woodshed for
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Speaker 10: a lot of things. So he's coming up on the
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Speaker 10: program and he'll detail some of the things that I
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Speaker 10: was shocked to find out that they're doing wrong that
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Speaker 10: are easily fixable if people would just get out of
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Speaker 10: their own navel and stop saying, well, it's not how
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Speaker 10: we always do thing, Chair, because I'm sure you've worked
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Speaker 10: in places, and I have definitely worked in places a
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Speaker 10: lot of radio stations that will hire somebody to say,
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Speaker 10: come save us, we're losing our audience, and then I'll
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Speaker 10: get there and start trying to save them and stop
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Speaker 10: losing their audience, and I'll get hit with twenty five
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Speaker 10: people saying that's not how we do things here. So
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Speaker 10: that's not how we're doing things here. Ism is killing
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Speaker 10: the Republican Party. But I may take your statement and
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Speaker 10: truncate it a little bit, jol if I may, because
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Speaker 10: you said that, well, the Republicans don't. Maybe they do
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Speaker 10: have to work on brand loyalty, but first I'd like
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Speaker 10: them to work on brand, because you can't have brand
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Speaker 10: loyalty until you have a brand, and right now you
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Speaker 10: know what do they stand for? Democrats? It's easy. We're
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Speaker 10: the Party of Santa Claus. We're going to give you
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Speaker 10: all kinds of stuff. And the upside for Republicans is
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Speaker 10: it's a lie. The Democratic Party brand is a lie.
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Speaker 10: It's like saying the impossible burger is actually healthy for you,
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Speaker 10: and so is it less unhealthy than red meat? That's
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Speaker 10: still debatable. But as my wife's favorite grocery store chain
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Speaker 10: takes their faux meet off the shelf in exchange for
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Speaker 10: a contract signed with the impossible company, I may be
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Speaker 10: salty about that. I apologize for letting it leak into
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Speaker 10: the broadcast. But the brand has to stand for something,
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Speaker 10: and that's what year after year, every time there's an
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Speaker 10: ignominious Republican Party defeat, the same thing happens, the same. Well,
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Speaker 10: what do we stand for? What do we stand for?
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Speaker 10: Because you have Republicans who don't get messaging and so
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Speaker 10: when you say are you are you against abortion? Well are? Okay?
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Speaker 10: So you're not against abortion, So we can't use that
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Speaker 10: as a differentiation point against the Democrats. While I'm against
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Speaker 10: abortion right up to the moment of birth. Okay, that's
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Speaker 10: a little tougher to message. It takes a few more words.
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Speaker 10: And that's the thing about the Republican brand is right now, now,
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Speaker 10: how do you come up with a message you? Are
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Speaker 10: you pro business? Or are you a capitalist? This program
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Speaker 10: not not being very helpful to the Republican Party has
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Speaker 10: pointed out that saying your pro business is not the
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Speaker 10: same thing as being a capitalist. Uh, though you know
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Speaker 10: it's used almost as a synonym. You know, are you
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Speaker 10: are you for just democratic style governance only for Republican things?
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Speaker 7: Uh?
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Speaker 10: Is that it? I don't know if that's a winning message.
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Speaker 10: So that's what they need to fix, Joel. They don't
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Speaker 10: need brand loyalty, they need brand.
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Speaker 20: I agree with you, but that's part of what I
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Speaker 20: was going to say too. I don't want to interrupt you,
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Speaker 20: but I also think that that we we talk about
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Speaker 20: our Christian faith. We talked about Judeo Christian faith and
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Speaker 20: but but the Democrats treat their politics as religion and
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Speaker 10: Two weeks that's still a thing. I mean, I'm blessed
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Speaker 10: So on the subject, and we were talking about the
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Speaker 10: gas lighting. Do we have the Marjorie Taylor Green clip here,
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Speaker 10: and this is in a bless or. She has the
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Speaker 10: right to say whatever she wants to say. This MTG
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Speaker 10: on the gas lighting of America over the economy. Yeah,
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Speaker 10: that's her. Give me that.
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Speaker 3: Gaslighting the people and trying to tell them that prices
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Speaker 3: have come down is not helping. It's actually it's actually
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Speaker 3: infuriating people.
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Speaker 10: And obviously she's running for president now, she's got twenty
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Speaker 10: twenty eight on her mind, and so she needs to
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Speaker 10: the opposite position anything jd Vance does, and anything jd
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Speaker 10: Vance does is not Trump. Therefore Marjorie Taylor Green can
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Speaker 10: go after it. And so the GOP again is setting
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Speaker 10: up for this, and we're going to get lost in
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Speaker 10: the trappings of this. But Scott Pio is a party chair,
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Speaker 10: Republican party chair, but more importantly a data guy. I've
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Speaker 10: told you this our flagship state of Virginia. Seventy percent
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Speaker 10: of all the Internet traffic on the planet comes through Virginia.
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Speaker 10: I think the other thirty percent goes through a couple
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Speaker 10: of servers in basements in Saint Petersburg, Russia, But that's
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Speaker 10: just anecdotal. But seventy percent of all the data that
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Speaker 10: goes across the Internet comes through Virginia for at least
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Speaker 10: a little while, and Scott Pile works in that field.
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Speaker 10: He's also the chairman of a Republican Party in that
45:58
Speaker 10: infamous county in Virginia, Loudon County, where you know, we
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Speaker 10: let boys dress as girls and then go have sex
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Speaker 10: with girls against their will in high school bathrooms. But
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Speaker 10: aside from the infamy of his county, he's very adamant
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Speaker 10: that the Republican Party needs to get its bowel movements
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Speaker 10: together so that it can go back to trying to
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Speaker 10: represent the seventy five percent of us who have conservative
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Speaker 10: constitutionalist beliefs. And he told me something and I'm not
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Speaker 10: sure when this publishes, but I've sent it into the
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Speaker 10: Daily Signal as a podcast Daily Signal dot Com. Like
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Speaker 10: I said, my position there is in flux right now
46:43
Speaker 10: as we work with donors learning that world, like I
46:47
Speaker 10: haven't learned the advertising world thoroughly yet. Now I have
46:52
Speaker 10: to go figure out donors to nonprofits and things like that.
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Speaker 10: But Scott sat down with me and talked about what
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Speaker 10: he was the issue with the Republican and it really
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Speaker 10: surprised me. It had nothing to do with messaging. It
47:04
Speaker 10: had nothing to do well. I guess at the route
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Speaker 10: it all has to do with that, but it has
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Speaker 10: to do with data.
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Speaker 17: The frustration is that they want to lean on technology
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Speaker 17: or their data at the RPV level, at the Republican
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Speaker 17: Party level, and their data is no good. It's like
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Speaker 17: fifty percent or even forty percent quality and overall you
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Speaker 17: can't do very much with their data. And the Republican
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Speaker 17: Party screams about having really good data or that's one
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Speaker 17: of our things that we provide our candidates, and I
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Speaker 17: respond back, well, if it's one of the things you
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Speaker 17: provide your candidates, then why would win some seers spend
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Speaker 17: six figures or five figures on an outside data company.
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Speaker 17: There's no reason for her to spend such money if
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Speaker 17: you're for data is so wonderful. But everybody knows that
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Speaker 17: has worked on the ground that the RPV Republican Party
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Speaker 17: data is terrible and they have zero data program.
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Speaker 10: Well with such you know. And this is what's always
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Speaker 10: puzzled me. With such active members and we've won elections,
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Speaker 10: why is the data bad? Is it that they don't
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Speaker 10: collect it? Is it they don't sort it well? What
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Speaker 10: is it from where you said.
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Speaker 17: The Republican Party of Virginia is a single source vendor
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Speaker 17: from the rn C, and so the rn C is
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Speaker 17: the one who actually purchases and maintains the data warehouse.
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Speaker 17: The Republican Party of Virginia simply attaches themselves onto it
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Speaker 17: and then they disseminate it down to.
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Speaker 10: The local units.
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Speaker 17: If you have the rn C who doesn't quite care
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Speaker 17: about the national data unless it focuses on certain elections,
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Speaker 17: then you have the Republican Party of Virginia that also
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Speaker 17: doesn't care.
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Speaker 10: And when they don't.
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Speaker 17: Have their own data warehouse, when they're not storing their
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Speaker 17: own data or manipulating their data or analyzing data, candidates
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Speaker 17: will go elsewhere. The local Loud and County republic Committee
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Speaker 17: has spent thousands and thousands of dollars are purchasing new
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Speaker 17: and accessible data that the RPV has never provided nor
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Speaker 17: decided to purchase themselves. And if they're not upgrading the
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Speaker 17: initial data sets that they have to larger quantifiable data
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Speaker 17: points on each and every voter, then then then you're
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Speaker 17: just going to waste money at the candidate level, always
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Speaker 17: purchasing other data. Because the RPV's data is frankly terrible.
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Speaker 10: So who is because certainly Governor Youngkin's campaign used data
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Speaker 10: very well get out the vote drives, and we saw
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Speaker 10: it with the results. Where's the disconnect? How is it
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Speaker 10: that the successful governor from the Republican Party isn't ostensibly
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Speaker 10: the leader of the Republican Party and and doing the
50:01
Speaker 10: same things. You would assume that RPV would be doing
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Speaker 10: just what the Youngkin campaign did four years ago.
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Speaker 4: Well they are.
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Speaker 17: They tell their candidates to go use a consultant to
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Speaker 17: exercise the consultant's data, right, So the RPV has its
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Speaker 17: own data from the RNC. But then they tell every
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Speaker 17: single candidate, if you don't like our data, to go
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Speaker 17: use I three sixty, or go use campaign Sidekick, And
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Speaker 17: then campaign Sidekick does the exact same thing. Or I
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Speaker 17: three sixty is probably the best data out there.
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Speaker 10: But they still all do the same thing.
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Speaker 17: They purchase their data from the state and they don't
50:41
Speaker 17: integrate their data with other purchases that other data providers offer.
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Speaker 17: And so when you have Governor Youngkin and he comes in,
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Speaker 17: he runs a race, he doesn't even use RPV data.
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Speaker 17: He uses another third party company. Right, So there's these
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Speaker 17: several data companies out there that do data really well,
51:01
Speaker 17: and you have to purchase this data instead of use
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Speaker 17: your own data. So when you have a Republican Party
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Speaker 17: that screams that we have great data, frankly, they do not.
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Speaker 10: So what kind of data are we talking about? Scott
51:13
Speaker 10: Pyo is visiting with us. He is the chair of
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Speaker 10: the Louden County GOP and he has made a call
51:20
Speaker 10: very publicly for change at the Republican Party of Virginia
51:24
Speaker 10: level and in the State Central Committee, a call that
51:28
Speaker 10: has been made frequently regarding State Central and their management
51:32
Speaker 10: of the Republican Party. But first I want to find out,
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Speaker 10: you know, what data is missing. I have done door knocking,
51:39
Speaker 10: I've done phone banks, We've seen the mailers. Are these
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Speaker 10: all places where there's missing data? What is missing in
51:49
Speaker 10: what the Republican parties?
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Speaker 17: So the Republican Party of Virginia provides voter information and
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Speaker 17: frankly tries to model the voter in information through the RC.
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Speaker 17: So the voter information means name, address, potentially a phone number,
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Speaker 17: zero emails, and did you vote in the past five
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Speaker 17: or ten election cycles?
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Speaker 10: Right?
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Speaker 17: And what party did you vote for? In the primaries
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Speaker 17: and then they try to model after that, and that's it.
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Speaker 17: That's the only data points they have. They can tell
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Speaker 17: if you're white, Black, or Asian or Hispanic, and that's it.
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Speaker 10: That's it. And unfortunately, you know how well targeted and
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Speaker 10: I'm only just learning as I run my business. You
52:41
Speaker 10: know how to target digital marketing. But there's a sidebar
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Speaker 10: to it, and we'll get into that next. First thing today.
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