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Talking Football With SKOR North's Ross Brendel · Sports Done Wright w/ Vince Wright

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  Speaker 2: Watch the magic grow what's going on everybody Vince Wright
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  Speaker 2: the sports governor the big smooth one and I am
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  Speaker 2: back with a great episode of sports done right tonight
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  Speaker 2: thanks to our friends at 7th Avenue Pizza and we
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  Speaker 2: have scored North's very own Ross Brendel joining us tonight
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  Speaker 2: we just finished up with a great chat from him
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  Speaker 2: Gophers Vikings we're gonna break it all down it's a
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  Speaker 2: football show Golden Gophers, they beat Michigan for the first
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  Speaker 2: time since 77 at home. And I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: get too much into it because me and Ross break
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  Speaker 2: down these games here, but it was great. It was great.
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  Speaker 2: I thought the Gophers should have won by more. Got
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  Speaker 2: a little worried at a couple points in the game,
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  Speaker 2: but that Gopher defense was real deal and shut down
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  Speaker 2: Michigan when it counted. And Gophers... Get the win, storm
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  Speaker 2: the field, all the good stuff. Congratulations. We'll see if
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  Speaker 2: they can keep it up against Purdue. Minnesota, yeah, there's
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  Speaker 2: still issues at quarterback, but we're 4-0, peeps. 4-0. So
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  Speaker 2: kind of, yeah, we got to get better quarterback play,
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  Speaker 2: but we're 4-0. Imagine if we had some quarterback play
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  Speaker 2: where this season might be able to go. And one thing, too,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll get into with the interview with Ross is
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  Speaker 2: Vikings offense has a lot of issues going on right
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  Speaker 2: now that we're really not thinking about as well. So, listen,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get into this interview with Ross because
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  Speaker 2: it's 56 minutes long. So, let's just get right to it.
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  Speaker 2: One and only, Sports Governor Vince Wright would score Norris
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  Speaker 2: Ross Brindle right after this.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? Vince Wright, the sports governor, the big
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  Speaker 2: smooth one, all that fun stuff. And today we have
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  Speaker 2: one of my favorite guys in the local sports scene
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  Speaker 2: on the show. Very honored to have. Oh, stop it, Ross.
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  Speaker 2: Stop it. Ross Brendel works with Score North, the big show,
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  Speaker 2: Gophers 101. And I love that show. I love you, Thor,
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  Speaker 2: who's been on a couple of times as well. Just
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  Speaker 2: the interaction I like. you know, which you score guys
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  Speaker 2: over there. So welcome to Sports Done Right, Ross. Thank
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  Speaker 2: you for joining us.
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  Speaker 5: Well, thank you so much for having me. And as
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  Speaker 5: I joked with other people, I love sports and politics.
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  Speaker 5: And I always say I love sports because there's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of politics in sports.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: I love politics because there's a lot of sport to it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Right.
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  Speaker 4: So it's very fun.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody who has always said I will never run for
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  Speaker 5: public office unless I'm running for governor. It's nice to
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  Speaker 5: join the sports governor because- I got sports gov takes
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  Speaker 5: and I got political gov takes that I try to
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  Speaker 5: leave aside.
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  Speaker 4: So it's good to be here. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, man, I appreciate it. We're going to be talking
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  Speaker 2: some football tonight with Big Ross, ladies and gentlemen. Ross,
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  Speaker 2: before we get into the sports, why don't you just
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  Speaker 2: tell the folks a little bit about yourself, where you
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  Speaker 2: came from, how you got to where you are right
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  Speaker 2: now with your love of sports and the show.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sure.
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  Speaker 5: I go all the way back. I'll make this as
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  Speaker 5: quick as possible. I can be long-winded, so I apologize.
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  Speaker 5: But I'm one of those people. I grew up in
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  Speaker 5: a family where when my father was in the car,
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  Speaker 5: he had some form of sports radio or sports on.
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  Speaker 4: And that would have been early, mid to late 90s.
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  Speaker 5: I just turned 40 years old.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm just trying to date where that would be at.
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  Speaker 5: So a lot of listening to Twins on the radio,
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  Speaker 5: Vikings on the radio as you're moving around. out and about,
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  Speaker 5: have always loved sports. I don't want to be too
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  Speaker 5: much of a downer, but I lost my mother at
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  Speaker 5: a young age. And I always jokingly told people, besides
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  Speaker 5: my father being the world's greatest father, sports kind of
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  Speaker 5: raised me. Because if I wasn't playing sports, I was
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  Speaker 5: watching sports. And it's just always been a love of mine.
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  Speaker 5: I've bobbed and weaved throughout media over the last 20 years. But,
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  Speaker 5: you know, you mentioned Gophers 101. I don't know why
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  Speaker 5: that is one of my biggest passions. And I didn't
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  Speaker 5: even attend the university of Minnesota, but my joke has
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  Speaker 5: always been my tax dollars go to it.
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  Speaker 4: And Mark Coyle can check the receipts.
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  Speaker 5: I have certainly given, and Joel Maturi, I've certainly given
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  Speaker 5: that athletic program thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of
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  Speaker 5: dollars of my own money at this point. So I
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  Speaker 5: can definitely claim love to it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And just, you know, got into media right out of college,
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  Speaker 5: did small town radio. I've been all around it's just
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  Speaker 5: it's been a fun wild ride and there's many different
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  Speaker 5: avenues to get to exactly what you and i are
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  Speaker 5: doing right now so i encourage anybody who wants to
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  Speaker 5: do it even if doing a podcast is just more
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  Speaker 5: of something that you want to do for fun or
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  Speaker 5: it's something you want to do to maybe make a
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  Speaker 5: living out of it please do and if you have
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  Speaker 5: any questions reach out to me i'd love to give
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  Speaker 5: some advice.
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  Speaker 2: And very cool of you to say that because you
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  Speaker 2: know i People go, hey, Vince, what is it like
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  Speaker 2: to do a podcast? Why did you do it? And
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  Speaker 2: I was very reluctant, actually, at first. People really had
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  Speaker 2: to kind of push me into this and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and stick with it and all that stuff. And for
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  Speaker 2: folks like yourself that, you know, this is how you
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  Speaker 2: make your living. You know, the one thing I like
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  Speaker 2: about what you guys do at Score North, you talk
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  Speaker 2: about all kinds of great topics with football, whether it's
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  Speaker 2: Gophers or Vikings. And I just love the personalities that
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  Speaker 2: you all have over there as well, Ross.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we try, Phil, who's basically our ringleader, he likes
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  Speaker 5: to say we want to be fun and informative.
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  Speaker 2: That's a good way to put it, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And I generally think like that, it's intentional, but it's
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  Speaker 5: really not. Like if you hire fun, knowledgeable people, generally
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  Speaker 5: that's what you're going to get.
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  Speaker 4: And I hope that that comes across.
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  Speaker 5: And also I try and tell people sports should be
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  Speaker 5: fun and we should have differing opinions.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: We we should we should verbal spar back and forth
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  Speaker 5: about what a team should do, why things aren't working.
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  Speaker 2: It's what makes it fun. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And how boring again, then you can apply this to
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  Speaker 5: more than sports. How boring would everything be if we
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  Speaker 5: were all the exact same? So, yeah, let's let's have fun.
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  Speaker 5: Let's inform people to the best of our abilities. And
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  Speaker 5: within that, you, if you're listening or watching me or
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  Speaker 5: any podcast podcast, You're allowed to form your own beliefs
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  Speaker 5: and opinions based off of what I say.
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  Speaker 4: And guess what? That's fine. I'm good with that.
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  Speaker 5: Let's just be respectful about it. And look, I can
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  Speaker 5: be as guilty as anybody, Vince. I could have a
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  Speaker 5: bad day and somebody can send me a below the
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  Speaker 5: gutter comment and I can fire back. And immediately, not
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  Speaker 5: raised as a Catholic, but immediately the Catholic guilt comes in.
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  Speaker 4: Why did I do that? It doesn't really matter. We're
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  Speaker 4: talking sports here. I love it.
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  Speaker 5: I make a good chunk of my living off of it.
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  Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, sports are supposed
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  Speaker 5: to be a distraction. So let's have fun. Let's take
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  Speaker 5: them seriously. But let's also keep in mind what we're
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  Speaker 5: actually talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Well, well said. Very well said. And with that, let's
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  Speaker 2: get into it here. So Minnesota Golden Gophers. Coming off
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  Speaker 2: of a very big win against Michigan. We're not going
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  Speaker 2: to spend too much time on it, you know, being
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  Speaker 2: that we're almost a week past the game and we
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  Speaker 2: got to get into this Purdue preview here. But going
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  Speaker 2: back to last week, you know, just give me your thoughts, Ross,
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  Speaker 2: because I was at the game and. and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the first half of that game, Minnesota defense, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I haven't seen them play like that in
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  Speaker 2: a very, very long time. They did keep it up
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  Speaker 2: for most of the game, but I was just impressed
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  Speaker 2: by the defense and I was impressed that we got
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  Speaker 2: a victory in spite of our quarterback not having his
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  Speaker 2: best game, you know, throwing that pick six and another interception. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, to finally beat Michigan at home since 77,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we've heard all the stats and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: It really should have been a wider margin, but hey,
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  Speaker 2: we'll take the win. But just give me kind of
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  Speaker 2: your quick synopsis on what you saw last weekend over
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  Speaker 2: at the bank.
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  Speaker 5: Well, one, I'll get to right away and we'll save
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  Speaker 5: it for when we get to Purdue. I loved what
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  Speaker 5: you said about the quarterback, maybe not playing so great,
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  Speaker 5: but still finding a way to win the game and
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  Speaker 5: then being good enough when he had to be. My
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  Speaker 5: initial takeaway, and I said this at halftime to a buddy,
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  Speaker 5: and I thought they were two entirely different teams. And
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  Speaker 5: the other team that I'm talking about is USC two
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  Speaker 5: years ago with the Max Brosmer team. They trailed that
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  Speaker 5: team at half, I believe, as well. I think they
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  Speaker 5: trailed USC by seven at half, but you didn't feel
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  Speaker 5: like the game was over. Now, after the game, you
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  Speaker 5: come to find out, Coach Fleck, PJ was telling his
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  Speaker 5: roster a lot of the same things I was saying.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if they're really dominating the game, but
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  Speaker 5: they could easily be winning it. They still get first
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  Speaker 5: possession out of half. They're in an okay spot. I
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  Speaker 5: don't Think that this is all doom and gloom, but
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  Speaker 5: you have to get out of your own way.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: In the second half, they got out of their own way.
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  Speaker 5: And who got in their own way?
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  Speaker 4: Michigan.
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  Speaker 5: And I've said this too. I've been very hard on
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  Speaker 5: Danny Collins since he's been here. If you've watched Gophers 101,
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  Speaker 5: people have heard me say this or listen. I don't
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  Speaker 5: always think the Gopher defense, when they play somebody comparable
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  Speaker 5: or punching up, so to speak, has come to play.
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  Speaker 5: And I think there was very good evidence of that
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  Speaker 5: last year, early into this year with Mississippi State, who
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  Speaker 5: I believe is going to win at bare minimum eight games.
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  Speaker 5: They're probably going to win nine or 10.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: However, that still doesn't mean you can't be more prepared
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  Speaker 5: to play in some of these games. Well, I would
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  Speaker 5: say the last two weeks with Michigan and Washington, say
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  Speaker 5: what you want about their record. Those are comparable, if
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  Speaker 5: not slightly, punching up teams to where I believe the
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  Speaker 5: Gophers are at. And to be able to play good,
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  Speaker 5: solid defense and be the reason you won those games,
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  Speaker 5: because I do believe it's the defense that really did
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  Speaker 5: win you both of those games.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Well, special teams, too, by the way.
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  Speaker 5: Let's not forget about my guy Tom Weston and Luke Driswicki.
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  Speaker 4: I knock on wood.
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  Speaker 5: I feel reasonably confident every time he goes out, he's
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  Speaker 5: going to kick a field goal and put it through
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  Speaker 5: the uprights. But honestly, this was my takeaway. I thought
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  Speaker 5: it was a wildly entertaining, borderline hideous game to watch,
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  Speaker 5: but still very fun because it was hideous.
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  Speaker 4: It was fun.
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  Speaker 5: And when I say hideous, it's because you had what?
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  Speaker 5: Five total turnovers. You had some penalties. You had teams
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  Speaker 5: that seemingly could pick up a first down and then
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  Speaker 5: punt the ball. Neither team was really capable of going
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  Speaker 5: the length of the field.
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  Speaker 2: And Michigan, too. They only had the ball for less
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  Speaker 2: than a minute in the third quarter.
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  Speaker 4: Correct. Crazy.
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  Speaker 5: And think about that. The Gophers didn't even score. Did
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  Speaker 5: they score three points? It must have been three or
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  Speaker 5: six points, maybe. Off the top of my head, I
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  Speaker 5: can't remember. But they didn't punch the ball in the
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  Speaker 5: end zone until very early in the fourth quarter. So
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  Speaker 5: just a very odd game, but I'm very happy for them.
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  Speaker 5: people like my father, anybody basically older than me that
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  Speaker 5: remembers the 77 game here. Look, I remember Mason winning
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  Speaker 5: the jug. I remember Jerry kill winning it. I've watched
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  Speaker 5: highlights of chip low Miller and the team doing it
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  Speaker 5: in the eighties. So I at least have some recency
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  Speaker 5: of seeing it, but it's all in the road to
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  Speaker 5: be able to do it at home.
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  Speaker 4: That's fun.
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  Speaker 5: That's what college football is all about. I do think
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  Speaker 5: there should be rules on storming a field, but I,
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  Speaker 5: In my list of rules as to when you can
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  Speaker 5: storm the field, the game applies on Saturday. By all means,
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  Speaker 5: you have a team in basically five decades. Go on
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  Speaker 5: to the field if you want.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. I mean, that's the thing, because, you know, is
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  Speaker 2: this the great Michigan team of years past? Of course not. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just like you said, man, you know, 1977.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I was a kid. I remember it, but
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  Speaker 2: it was a long time ago. And just to have
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  Speaker 2: the celebration, you know, I mean, you finally did it.
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  Speaker 2: You won it here at home, like you said, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I think also, too, it was kind of a
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  Speaker 2: subdued little attitude out on the field amongst us people
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  Speaker 2: who actually went out and stormed it. It wasn't, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like a couple years ago with Wisconsin and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: things like that. But, hey, I'll take it. And just,
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  Speaker 2: you know, with the way they won the game, with
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  Speaker 2: the way they hung in there, You know, because we
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  Speaker 2: were talking about it in the stands. Oh, are they
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  Speaker 2: going to go go from this?
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: You know, are they going to find a way to
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  Speaker 2: blow this game? And to just be like, OK, well, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you fell behind. You need a score, need a touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: And then, all right, let's go get it. And they did.
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  Speaker 5: And one thing we didn't see early on, and we're
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  Speaker 5: now in year 10, but one thing that was largely
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  Speaker 5: a staple of P.J. Fleck teams early on was didn't
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  Speaker 5: matter if they were down by one or 21 at half,
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  Speaker 5: they weren't coming back to win. Well, over the last
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  Speaker 5: few years, we have seen that start to change a
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  Speaker 5: little bit. So, yeah, I have zero issues with anything
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  Speaker 5: that we saw on Saturday. There's going to be nitpicks,
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  Speaker 5: but still as we're, what, four or five days removed
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  Speaker 5: from the game. I don't know how nitpicky you can
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  Speaker 5: be with a team that's 2-0 in the Big Ten,
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  Speaker 5: and you can easily make the argument they could be 0-2,
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  Speaker 5: but they're not.
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  Speaker 4: They're 2-0, and they've won both games. So, this is.
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  Speaker 5: rare air for gopher football athletics this doesn't happen often
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  Speaker 5: and we certainly know that when it has happened vince
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  Speaker 5: they tend to slow down the back half of the
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  Speaker 5: season and we know what the back half of the
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  Speaker 5: gopher schedule looks like yeah that's that makes saturday to
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  Speaker 5: me it's not a must win i wouldn't even call
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  Speaker 5: it a letdown if the gophers lose but it is
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  Speaker 5: a very important game to.
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  Speaker 2: Win Yeah, very well said. And to me, it actually
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  Speaker 2: is kind of pushing up against the must-win because of
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  Speaker 2: the toughness of the schedule after that. Let me ask
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  Speaker 2: you this here, Ross. I was hanging out with Ricky Foggy,
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  Speaker 2: old Gopher quarterback legend there, at the game. And he
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: brought up kind of an interest or asked me a question,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: which I thought was very interesting. And I've been talking
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: to people about it here. You know... We were there
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: watching the national broadcast. Fox was in town, as most
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: people know by now, outside the stadium. And then they
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: came in and did their little set inside the stadium
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: where I was with Ricky Foggy. And he goes, Vince,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: why do you think, you know, this show is here?
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: You know, why this game? You know, why today? You know,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: this isn't a great Michigan team, you know, Michigan, Minnesota.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: And he goes, it's P.J. Fleck, man. It's PJ Fleck.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: You can love him. You can hate him, whatever you
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: want to say about him. This dude gets eyes on
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Minnesota and, you know, we're, you know, middling big 10
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: program and, you know, to be on TV and in
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: kind of the national scene, as much as we are,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: you know, I started thinking about it, Ross. And I
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: was like, I think Ricky is actually onto something here. What,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: what do we, what do you think about that?
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: Well, it's, It's a great question. It's a great thought.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: I tend to agree with it. I'm just thinking of
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: some things off the top of my head. So since
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: PJ has been here, you have had two visits from
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: game day. One was during a COVID season. So nobody
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: was really allowed there, but they were down there. They
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: did game day outside. I think it was a Michigan
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: game that they lost to. I believe JJ McCarthy, you
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: had the big game against Wisconsin.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Yep. I was at that one. Got a press pass
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: for that. That was a blast.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: You've had some national pretty big national TV games, including
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: 2019 against Penn state where you win. Was it the
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: first year PJ was here or maybe the second year
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: ESPN did like a four part mini series on him.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: And obviously there's the book and there's the horrible situation
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: with his, with his child. And, and you wouldn't wish
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: that upon anybody. I'm, I'm not a father, but just
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: the thought of that is, is horrifying. I think it's
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: exactly what you said. He's very polarizing. I have said
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: numerous times, I'm fairly pro PJ Fleck. There's things I
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: don't like. A lot of them are more on the field,
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: maybe game management type things and processes.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I tend to agree with you.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: You're never really going to change somebody who they are.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: And I know there's always this great debate about well,
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: is he really that way or does he turn it
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: off when he's not on camera? The two things I
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: would say to that are everybody who's around him and
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: near him says, no, he's always like that.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: But then the second part to that would be if
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: he turns.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: It off when he's not on camera and he's a
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: different person, as long as he's not getting in trouble
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: and he's not out murdering people, does it really, does
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: it really matter? I mean, the, the program largely from
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: what we know, again, knock on wood has been run
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: very clean. Players are so seldomly in trouble. Again, knock
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: on wood when they are, it tends to be handled.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: pretty judiciously and it doesn't turn out to be a
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: big deal, but yeah, I mean, and I don't want
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: to go too deep on this because I don't ever
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: want to be perceived as negative. I do think there's
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: a clock on PJ Fleck at Minnesota. Naturally this will
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: run its course and he's going to end up somewhere else.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: I would have guessed it would have been by now.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I've heard people say that. Yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: I mean, you go eight and four, nine and three
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: this year. Maybe it's after this year, but it's also
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: entirely possible. Maybe it's not. Maybe the University of Minnesota
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: and P.J. Fleck are just destined to be together because
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: they both need each other. There's not a ton of
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: ADs in the country that are going to want to
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: deal with what he brings. There's also not a bunch
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: of power for schools that maybe need what he can bring.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: So to that degree, it seems like they are a
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: bit of a perfect marriage. And the thing that I
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: go back to all the time, again, after a win,
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: you just won the little brown jug.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: I get it.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: But look at how much the players love him, how
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: complimentary they are of him, the things they say about him,
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: the things that they do for him. And I think
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: those are the things we don't pay enough attention to
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: those things. And we love to rip him for crowd surfing. Well, again,
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: another thing I got news for you in 20 years,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: he probably won't be crowd surfing. That also has a
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: shelf life. So you don't have to worry about that
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: for the rest of his coaching career. But yeah, I
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: think it's the brand too. It's the row the boat brand.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: It's his persona. It's his elite. It's his hyper. It's
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: his howfer. It's his Family, forget about me. I love you.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: It's all that stuff that comes with it. And then
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: last week, very quickly, I think they were also, being honest,
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: I think they were also a little aided by game
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: day was in Iowa City for Iowa and Ohio State.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: But whenever you get anything like that, it's good for
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: the program, so you should embrace it. And again, I
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: also don't care that he crowd surfed before the game.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: That's his bit.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Whether they won by 30 or lost by 30, he
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: was going to defend it.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: So I just, I kind of let that stuff go
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: because I care more about the results on the field.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: And in my lifetime and in gopher history, if you
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: throw out Murray warmath, he's been about as successful as
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: you're ever going to maybe not ever see here, but
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: relatively great point to his predecessors. This is about as
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: good as it's, as it's ever been minus the national
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: championships and the big 10 championships. So yeah, I wish
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: people would take that more into account when they're ripping
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: on the, why are you crowd surfing after beating two
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: and 10 Rutgers?
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know because they didn't lose.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, it took me and again, folks sports done
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: right podcast here with Ross Brindle. It took me to
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: be in that crowd last week, you know, outside of
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: what I will still call Mariucci arena or three, three
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: and whatever it is. But, it just kind of hit home.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I'm 57 years old. Like I said, I, I remembered
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: the 77 game, you know, as, as a young kid
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: and to see what we were seeing here. And I
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: was just, I just went before I met my friends.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: So it's just me. And I was soaking it all
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: in and, you know, watching the show go live and everything.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: And I was like, you know what, man, it, yeah,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: it is, it is PJ and everything, but who cares?
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: We got national TV here on Minnesota watching us, you know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: getting our name out there, all the positives that can
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: come with that. I mean, you know, recruiting, NILs, all
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: that stuff. And it is because of our head coach.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: And it's just like, you know, yeah, you're right. He
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: isn't for everybody. A lot of older Gopher fans, you know,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: definitely make that known on a lot of sports radio shows.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: But this is just, it's a different time, Ross. It's just,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: it's a different time and place. And to be able
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: to play in this game, especially when you don't have
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: a lot of NIL money like the Minnesota Gopher football
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: team does or does not have, have at it, PJ.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Have at it. I mean, if this is the worst,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: Well, and I think the one thing that you will
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: see with a roster like the Gophers, and it's bound
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: to happen, and I know we're going to talk Purdue.
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: When you have a roster, and I've talked about this
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: numerous times, Another political term. The Gophers largely have to
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: win on the margins. They're going to play in a
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: lot of close games because oftentimes, at least when you
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: go to recruiting rankings and transfer portal rankings, the Gophers
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: aren't going to be the most talented team on the field.
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: But one thing they might be more often than not,
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: despite where I'm going to take this, is they might
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: be the better coach team most times, and they're often
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: more disciplined.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: Typically, the Gophers win.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: when they don't turn the ball over and they're the
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: least penalized. Yep. And last year, last year's team that
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: goes what seven and five wins the bowl games. They
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: go eight and five. That team was, I'm sorry. They
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: weren't very good. They could have easily been three and nine,
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: but when you would look at the end of the
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: game and go, how did they manage to win this game?
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: They had 240 less yards of offense. Oh, well, they
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: were only penalized two times for 15 yards. The other
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: team was penalized 11 times. And they didn't turn the
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: ball over and Purdue did three times or whatever. So
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: that's the sign of a good coach, in my opinion. However,
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: when you have teams that are built like that with
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: lesser resources, there is a chance for fluky things to happen.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: What happened a few years ago at old Ryan field,
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: where you're leading by 14, heading to the fourth quarter,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: maybe even 21. And before you know it, you're in
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: overtime and you lose. Stuff like that is going to happen.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: And I don't want to make excuses for it because
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, you're always allowed to
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: win the game, no matter who you're playing. And that
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: does fall on the head coach, right? He willingly choose
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: to take the job. This is his roster. This is
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: what they put together. So he's not above criticism, but
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: for some reason, and we do this with gopher basketball too.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Look at the numbers.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: Gopher basketball goes to the NCAA tournament on average, once
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: like every three and a half years when they're not cheating.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: right when they're not cheating but we always have this
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: opinion not that it shouldn't be a team that goes
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: to the NCAA tournament every year Mark Coyle has said that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: He's also said the football team should go to a bowl.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Game every year and he's not wrong about that right
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: but we love to act like they should go 10
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: and 2 every year in football and they should be
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: a three or four seed every year in the NCAA
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: tournament and that's never been the case which I know
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: is part of the frustration but We need to do
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: a better job viewing gopher athletics in the prism that
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: it lives in versus assigning it an alternate reality.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Exactly. I couldn't have said that one better myself. You know,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: people got to realize that. All right, let's bring it
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: up to, you know, the next game here, Purdue. Can
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: they keep it up? I mean, can they keep this
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: thing going, keep this train on the tracks and. You know,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: it's a night game. I'm sure Purdue will probably be
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: out there and some all blacks or some special unis.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: And by the way, Purdue props to them. They're coming
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: off a big win at Illinois, big trophy game for them.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And yeah, the program down there in West Lafayette has
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: been down for a long time. And I just don't
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: want the gophers to do what gophers have done in
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: the past and blow this game. So, How did they
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: do it? How did they win? And give us a
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: little preview on what the Purdue Boilermakers are looking like
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Well, I talked about this on Gophers 101 with Thor yesterday.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: Available on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, wherever you get podcasts, yada, yada, yada.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: It definitely feels, and you alluded to it, We just
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: always feel like gophers are going to go for. And
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: the thing that I love to say is remember before,
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: remember before Dabo Sweeney pushed Clemson over the edge to
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: win a couple, I think they ended up winning two
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: national championships. There was a term called Clemsoning, right? They
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: would go like, they would be so close. They just
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: need to win this game. And they're, they might go
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: to the national championship or they're going to be in,
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: I think it was before CFP, but they're so close.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: They just need this win and it wouldn't happen. And
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: every year there'd be like a loss and everybody would
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: call it Clemsoning. We've been doing Clemsoning long before it
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: was cool for Clemson to do it.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's been in the DNA of gopher football.
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: The one thing I would say is if you're worried
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: about a letdown, if you're trying to be positive, the
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: easy way to look at it is, well, they could
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: have had the letdown after a nice win over Washington
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: and coming home and losing at home to a beatable
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: Michigan team.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: They tried to lose, but they didn't. They found a
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: way to win it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Purdue picked up their first big 10 win since, Literally
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: the last week of the Big Ten season in 2023.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: Here's how long ago that was, Vince. Do you want
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: to guess who Purdue beat? Who their last Big Ten
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: win was? Their last Big Ten win prior to Illinois
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: last Saturday was?
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Minnesota.
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: Indiana.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. Yes, yes, yes. In the old Oakland. Yeah,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: pre-Signetti back when Indiana was sucking for life.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: So I think it'll be interesting to see what does
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: the crowd look like on Saturday night? I'm sure they'll
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: have a good crowd. Is it going to be a
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: full house? I guess I'd be shocked if it is.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I would too, but it'll be a lively crowd, you know? Correct.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: And in a weird way, that might be good. That's
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: probably better than a sleepy 20,000 people.
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: At 11 a.m.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: Where maybe you don't have to bring as much of
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: your own energy. I know the crowd's not cheering for you.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: But I do think it's easier for a team to
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: get jazzed and stoked when it's 30, 40,000 people versus 20, 25,000.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: And they're all settling in going, boy, can our team
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: compete today?
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: I thought even before Purdue won last Saturday that Purdue
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: wouldn't be a pushover. They're playing better if you give
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: them the victory, which obviously we do now. They're two
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: and three. And you're starting to see a team that
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: is trying to take the shape or the form of
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: what they're head football coach wants to do, and you
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: look at even what they're doing at quarterback. Again, they're
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: five games into the year. Their quarterback's thrown one interception,
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: Ryan Brown. He hasn't thrown a ton of yards. He's
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: a bit of a dual threat, maybe not like DeMond
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: Williams or Camario Taylor, but he can move around. The
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: Gophers have seen him. He's completing passes at a pretty
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: high percentage. their Achilles heel is they just don't stop anybody.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: They've largely until last week been.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Allergic to playing defense.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I would hope that the gophers are able
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: to keep a run game going, keep the pocket clean
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: for Drake Lindsay, who can hopefully go North of 200 yards.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: Maybe throw a few touchdown passes. And most importantly to me,
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: the recipe for losing is turnovers. And I know that's
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: such an easy thing to say, but, But a team
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: that in theory that is going to have trouble stopping you,
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: don't turn the ball over and.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Especially don't do it early. You just can't do it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Even if you go three and out and punt, that
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: is more preferable to turning the ball over and making
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: a defense feel high and mighty about themselves and feeling good.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: My gut says the Gophers. find a way to win.
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: But my bit has been, I'm going to pick Purdue
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: to win because I picked both Washington and Michigan.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: To keep it going.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: And the Gophers are two and oh, but my heart
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: of hearts, my gut says it's like a 27, 20, 30, 23.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Type of game.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: And it is a, it's a big game for this
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: reason to Vince. If the Gophers win their three and oh,
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: and they have two weeks for the buildup and excitement
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: of Iowa at home. If you lose, and again, I
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: agree with what you're saying.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: I think it's a very important game.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: I think when you look at a lot of the
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: metrics and statistics, I think these teams are a lot
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: closer than people think they are.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: I would agree with that.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: I don't know how much of a letdown that it
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: would be, but the perception is that it would be
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: a letdown.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: You're 2-0 in the Big Ten. They're 1-1. You're 4-1.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: They're 2-3.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: So whether it's by one or 21, if you've got
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: to beg, borrow, and steal, if Tom Weston has to
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: bury somebody at the two-yard line again, or Drizwicki needs
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: to hit one from 55 as time expires.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: However, you've got to do it.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: You've got to find a way to win the game.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: You just have to. Am I going to be heartbroken
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: if they don't?
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: No, I'll be annoyed.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, for sure. Absolutely, Ross. I mean, come on.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, just, you know, let's just put it out there. Everybody's,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: you know, trying to set it up for Iowa. You know,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about Iowa because I want
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: to get into some Vikings talk here. But, you know, after, well,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: after last week, you know, the who hate Iowa chant
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: started up in the crowd and this and that. And
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: another reason I'm not talking about Iowa because Iowa kicks
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: our ass.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: You know, one of my best friends who was just
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: over here at the apartment the other night, you know,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I was telling him because, you know, he came over
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and he was going to talk some crap a little bit.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, hey, man, you got every
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: right to say what you want. Because not only this year,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: but I mean, we got to get some wins against
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Iowa here. This is really embarrassing. Three, four wins in
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: the past 20, 25 years against this team. And so
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: that's why. And like, even when they started those chants
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: last weekend at the stadium, I was just like, Oh God,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: shut up. Yeah. Yeah. I just, I'm done with it.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: No.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: And I'm with you.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: And that's why I do think again, is the Iowa
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: game a must win game? I think it's a must
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: win in the sense of, boy, you'd really like to
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: beat a quote unquote rival. And they are, but at
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: the moment it's not a true rivalry because you've basically
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: won one game the last decade, which I will give you.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: I'm not like the Iowa fans that, that love to say, no.
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: And then they always love to say it wasn't a
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: fair catch. And I go, yeah, you're right. It was
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: an invalid fair catch signal. So it was, it was
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: not a fair catch, but no, you're right. And that's
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: why to me, I think it's important to, beat Purdue,
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: maybe get a few less Gopher fans to sell their
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: tickets to Iwegians, which, by the way, I will say this,
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: Gopher fans have been pretty good about that the last decade.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Shout out to the student section the past few years
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: as well, man. I mean, it has been filled. They
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: are there. They are rowdy. And they are, I mean,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: they bring it, man. And, you know, I used to
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: work for Gopher Sports a couple years ago, so I
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: was down there covering the games and, you know, talking
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: with those guys in the stadiums. And those students, man,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: they were, I mean, week in and week out. So
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: props to the gopher student section.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: You can tell Vince though, they have not quite been humbled.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: Like we have again, 40, you said you're 57.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: And I get it.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: They're all 18 to 22 for the most part. And
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: a lot of them might not have paid much attention
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: to go for football until they got to the university.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: That's it.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: And that's entirely allowable. but I was telling my buddies
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: I could do without the bleep you Michigan chance. I mean,
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: I always think that that stuff's a, I get it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: No, I hear you.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: A lot of them are in the bottle, whatever, but
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: then there's like eight minutes left in the fourth quarter
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: and they're chanting overrated.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: I'm like, you're winning by six.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Exactly. This game is not over. People can't be talking
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: like that. All right. So again, folks, we got Ross
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Brindle here from scored North joining us. Let's turn it
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: to the pro side of town. Minnesota Vikings, man, they
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: beat Miami. Props to Miami for coming to play. I mean,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: you know, again, this was going to be, I don't
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: want to say it was going to be the walkover,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: but it's kind of the big test game because it
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: was like if Kyler can't really get this squad moving
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: here against a supposedly, you know, bad team. And I
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: think the Dolphins might be a little bit better than
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: they seem right now, but I'll digress for that. But
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: It's all Kyler talk. You know, I was at my
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: friend's bar, Tommy Kramer, Dante Culpepper, down at Fathead Bill's there,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: you know, doing some signings and things like that. And,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: you know, sitting there with the Vikings fans and just
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: kind of listening around and stuff. That's all anybody cared
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: about was the quarterback player. All right, Ross, it's open
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: mic for you, man.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Have at it.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Whether it's Kyler Murray or it's insert quarterback who gets
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: drafted in April or insert quarterback mercenary, you sign in
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: the off season. You talk about PJ Fleck being polarizing.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: The Vikings quarterback is going to be polarizing until, until
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: they find who the masses believe to be a franchise quarterback.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: I know that some and a good chunk thought that
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: that was Kirk Cousin's, I always said you can win
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: a Super Bowl with Kirk Cousins. It's just a lot
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: harder than with other quarterbacks, but you could do it.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: So I was never fully anti-Kirk, but I still wouldn't
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: say that he met the bar of most Vikings fans
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: saying this.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Is a franchise quarterback.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: And I could be wrong on that.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: I could be wrong on that, but he's the closest
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: they've had since Dante Culpepper. And by the way, good
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: for Kirk playing pretty well with the.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: Raiders right now.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: I'm willing to give this time with Kyler. And I
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: said this on Before I Die. That's a Vikings podcast
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: I do once a week with Leighton James, Jason Harmon.
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: I do that in the Purple Daily Podcast Network the
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: day after a Vikings game.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: There's really no other option.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: So you have to ride it out with Kyler Murray.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: I don't care what people say.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: You're not trading for a franchise quarterback at the trade
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: deadline in the NFL. It just doesn't happen. And if
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: it does happen, just make it up because everybody wants
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: to will it into existence. Say it's Justin Herbert. He's
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: not going to show up and in six days have
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: a grasp of the offense. It's going to take him
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: all of the rest of the regular season.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: I like Carson Wentz.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: I've jokingly said when the Vikings play in the NFC
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: championship game this year, Carson Wentz will be the starter.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: I assume that was going to be because of maybe
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: injury or getting hot at the right time. And I
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: love Max Brosmer, but he's at best in his career
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: going to be a 10-year journeyman backup quarterback. which is
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: a hell of a way to make a living so.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I was gonna stack some nice checks and correct i'm.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Not ripping on him but at this point you're not
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: making him the starting quarterback so you have to give
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: this time to work with kyler murray the other side
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: of the argument which i agree with is well you
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: probably would have been four and oh with jj mccarthy
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: i do agree with that there's a fatal flaw in
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: that though. JJ McCarthy is no longer on the roster.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: And whether you agree with that or not, I would
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: have tried to see it out more. I said in
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: the off season, I wouldn't have went this route. I
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: would have said we're starting JJ and we're committing to.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Going 13 and four. or four and 13 with, or
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: with him and we're moving and then we'll move on.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: He's the guy, but that's not the path that they chose.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: So the path that they chose is really the only
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: path you can go with at this point. And I
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: would submit to you again, easy answer. It can't possibly
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: look worse than it has the first four weeks. It's
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: going to get better. I think now what we need
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: to figure out is what is better look like is better.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: A team that can shoot.
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: Is better a team that can show up and maybe
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: score 30 points and win a game that way if
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: they have to? Or is better just, well, they can
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: score 23 and hopefully the defense holds the opponent. I
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: do think they're going to get there. I just think
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: the one thing we're not talking a lot about is
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: Kyler shows up, quarterback shows up, plays 11 plays, gets concussed.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: So he basically didn't play the first two games. comes
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: back wide receiver one, almost immediately gets injured. Doesn't play
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: the rest of that game. Doesn't play the next game
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: that Kyler Murray's in. Then on Sunday, you lose your guard.
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: You've had instability, the offensive line, Dara saw missed a
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: bit of time. He's in concussion protocol. And now we
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: find out Jordan Addison is dealing with something. They're so
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: downtrodden in the receiver room. They had to go sign
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: the corpse of Odell Beckham. So I just think, it's
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: a real easy excuse to make.
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: We all look for confirmation bias.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: We all do. Yeah, we all do it. But I
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: think let's get through this weekend, win or lose. Let's
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: give it the bi-week and let's see what this thing
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: really looks like when the schedule really picks up. And
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: if you need, and if you need to go back
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: to Carson Wentz at that time, just because you think
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: he gives you a fighting chance to maybe score seven
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: more points in a game, then you can do it
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: at that point. I just think now, And even out
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: of the bye, there's no point in doing that.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, let's just let it play out just a
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: little bit. Let's, let's breathe and see what happens.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Okay. And that's where I'm at. Exactly. And again, excuse
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: me for looking down here, but yeah, we got the
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: saints coming up by, and then, yeah, we come back
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: and then that schedule starts heating up. We got the Colts.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: We're on the road in Detroit. You got the bills
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: coming to town at green Bay, green Bay, maybe playing better,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: but at that point, San Francisco, Atlanta, uh, carolina new
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: england oh my goodness.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: This amen but if the vikings lost on sunday and
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: i just walked up to you say you had went
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: on you went on an aaron rogers darkness retreat for
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: the first five weeks of the season right right and
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: i said vince welcome back just so you know the
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: vikings are four and one you'd go awesome you you
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: you probably wouldn't care about how they got to four
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: and one i think You would say, that's great because
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: I know how tough the schedule is.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Ross, it is so funny you mention that because I
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: was sitting on the executive deck that I'm looking out
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: at here over right now, having some very fine Elijah
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Craig bourbon the other night, thinking that it's Zach. Same thing, man.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: It's like, look, if somebody came up to you and said, hey,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: your team's undefeated, you're going to take that every single time.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Of course. And then obviously, you know, like you said,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: we've been so focused on the quarterback play. And that's
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: why I'm glad you just brought up everything you did,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: because it reminded me the sports governor. Also, we got
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: cracks in that offensive line are obviously top offensive juggernaut
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: is not playing right now. Yeah, we got some issues
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: beyond Kyler that we need to kind of, you know,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: focus on as well. and getting that offensive line back
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: together actually is probably project one.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: It's also, I'd say what you want about it, but
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: before injury, it's a rather cobbled together running back room.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: It's a, it's an older air. It's an older.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: Aaron Jones, um, Claiborne unproven at best. And I, and
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: I know you're not asking, you don't want to ask
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: a ton of him and I'm blanking, uh, Mason.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: You know, he's got the thumb injury.
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: There's another one, by the way, Josh Oliver's done for
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: the year as well, more than likely. So I, I,
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: it is excuses and I understand that, but also let's
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: just see, can a few guys get healthy? Maybe things
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: start to click. I know it's the dolphins. It looked
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: like maybe it was starting to click the back half
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: of the third quarter and the fourth quarter.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: I know Kyler's, career arc.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: Has always been up and down up and down up
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: and down you hope if you are a Kevin O'Connell
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: believer you get him to level out and play consistently
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: somewhere along the lines that he was able to do
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: with Sam Darnold and then the Seahawks were able to
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: I don't want to say take it to the next
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: level because the Seahawks I know I'm switching gears in
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: you a little bit the Seahawks asked Sam Darnold to
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: do a little bit less than the Vikings were asking
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: him to do I think If we're being fair, I
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: think we can all say that. Now, that doesn't mean
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: you take the Super Bowl away from Sam Darnold and
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks because Sam Darnold was phenomenal in.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: The Super Bowl.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: But the path of getting there was not, hey, Sam,
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: go out and throw 35 times. Throw for 330 yards.
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: With the Vikings, it kind of was that. That's not
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: what they asked him to do in Seattle. And I
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: think Kevin O'Connell along the way has learned whether we're
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: actually getting anything form of run game we still need
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: to commit to it to at least bleed some clocks
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: set our offense up a little bit and not ask
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: our offense to win us a bunch of a bunch
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: of games because we have a good defense but also
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: we can't tire that really good defense out either so
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: we can't go over three in the past game and
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: 90 seconds later right they're back.
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: Out exactly that's a great point people are really ripping
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: him right now and they should the offense is his
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: baby and it and it looks pretty bad However, he
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: should get some credit for some of the changes he
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: has made as a head coach.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: That's another thing I like to preach, Vince. If you're
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: going to rip, which I love to do, I think
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: you need to give praise and give credit when it's
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: warranted because you can't always be.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: One way or another.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: I got a question on Gophers 101 in the comments,
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: and it was, how can you call yourself a Gophers fan?
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: You guys are negative. It's like, well, okay, first off,
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: where does it say fans can't be negative?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: Second off, if I'm positive all the time, that's a
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: little disingenuous if I don't believe it. So I think that's,
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: that's how I try and view all of this. And
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: I'm annoyed by Kevin O'Connell and the offense. It's been,
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: it's been dreadful, but he also is the head coach
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: of the team and they're four and oh, so he
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: should get credit for that as well.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Very well said. And exactly, you know, and obviously, you know,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: what on the other side of the ball, the defense,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: which has been, the star of the show and Brian
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Flores and, you know, Hey, KOC has got to go.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Brian's there to take his place, all that stuff. You know,
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: you don't have to spend too much time on the
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: defense Ross, because, you know, we've talked about it a lot.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: You've talked about it on your shows and whatnot, but
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: what are you seeing with this defense? That's just making
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: it click so far.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: And I think it's a, I'm going to, steal a
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: talking point from a lot of people far smarter than
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: me but i truly believe it i think it's having
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: a ceo of the defense which brian flores is who
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: is really comfortable with his system and knows the type
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: of guys that can play it so he can find
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: value maybe where other people can't also why he can
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: look at it probably not his decision but he can
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: be okay we're trading a Jonathan Grenard because he can,
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: to steal a money ball term, one of my favorite movies,
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: he can recreate in the.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Aggregate, Jonathan Grenard.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Maybe we get, maybe we get some from Dallas Turner.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: We get a little bit from Kyle Van Noy, who
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: we signed, signed off of the scrap heap. We can
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: maybe get a little bit more from Van Ginkle. I
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: think he's really good at identifying who can play in
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: his system and knowing that not everybody can, which is
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: another weird thing when you, Look at his defense and
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: we'll see how this goes. I'm actually very interested to
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: see how this goes as the season goes on.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: I'm almost positive it's the second oldest defense in the NFL.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: And if that's true, if that's true, and I guess
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: logic would actually make me believe that it probably is
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: Van Noy's been in the league for what? 13 seasons, 12,
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: 13 seasons. I think Harrison Smith was on the Vikings
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: the last time to go. The gophers beat Michigan at
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: home prior to last Saturday. So I just think he's,
• 48:46
  Speaker 5: he's really good at that. And everybody talks about it
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: and look, some team's going to crack it at some point.
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: There's going to be a game where the bike, it's
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: a boom or bust defense. There's going to be games
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: where the Vikings get taken to the woodshed, but I'm
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: reasonably confident when that happens. it will be fixed and
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: rectified the following week. And I think he's just a
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: really good identifier of talent, but also knowing when the
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: draft comes around or free agency comes around, just because
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: that guy is 27 and perceived by the NFL to
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: be a really good player, doesn't mean he's going to
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: be really good for me. I'd rather have this 35
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: year old for a season or two, because I know
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: he can do what needs to be done. And that
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: to me is, I think what has been the biggest
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: benefit to him as defensive coordinator.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: All right. And folks, we got to just a few
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: more minutes here with Ross. Ross, let me ask you
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: this about the Vikings, and then I want to talk
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: to you a little bit about Score North. When the
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: season is done, the Minnesota Vikings, are they a playoff team,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: in your opinion? Just, you know, and I know we're
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: looking at several, you know, weeks down the way and everything. But,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was kind of the thing I was wondering.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Can this team– be a playoff team with the quarterback
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: we have now. And I think so, but you know,
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just, I'm trying to stay positive with this four
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: and all. I really am. And I've kind of made
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: it a point this week because the Kyler talk is
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: the easy stuff, right? You know, Oh, he, he's short.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: He can't do this and that blah, blah, blah. But
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: you brought up, like I said, other key issues that's
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: going on. And I just want us to get past
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: new Orleans and, get into that bye week, and maybe
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: everybody can just pause, take a little breath, and we
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: go from there.
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: Well, I would say yes, even if they lose to
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: New Orleans. They're a playoff team, and there's a couple reasons.
• 50:48
  Speaker 5: And by the way, New Orleans is very losable. I
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: know they had a bad night on Monday night, but
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: I do think there is a bit of a benefit
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: to getting them on one less day of rest. Typically,
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: they would have an off day this week. They're not
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: going to. I also like that Chuck is a bit
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: more of a stationary quarterback against the Vikings defense that
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: loves to blitz. So we'll see how new Orleans preps
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: and tries to counteract that. But I would say at
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: this point at four and oh, you would expect them
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: to be a playoff team. I mean, you're, you're asking
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: them essentially to go six and seven from here on
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: out to get to 10 and seven, 10 and seven,
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: almost virtually guarantees you a playoff spot with seven playoff teams, which, what,
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: five years into this, I still hate that.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Go back to six.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a whole different show.
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: It's a whole different show, whole different discussion. But I
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: think they are for a couple different reasons. The defense and, again,
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: knock on wood, the special teams play has largely been good.
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: It's a little bit like go for football. At this point,
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: they're playing complementary football to a point of, okay, the
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: offense is probably just barely getting by, but the defense
• 51:52
  Speaker 5: and special teams are at a high level.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: So you're winning because of that.
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: And we love in sports to say that special teams
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: is not that important. There's a reason why the old
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: adage is it's a third of the game. They might
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: not be on the field for 33% of the game,
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: but they are on the field for incredibly important plays
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: in a game where the one play can lose you
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: a game. Miss field goal, give up a punt return,
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: muff a punt, fumble a kick return. So I think
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: it's that the defense and special teams have largely played well,
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: and I do expect the offense to get better. And
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: we can talk all day long about that schedule, I
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: know we all do it. We do it at score North.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: You do the shows where you predict the schedule. It's
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: the live schedule show. The schedule just came out. The
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: schedule is tough. Now it's probably going to be tough,
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: but you can play the lions and Jared.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: Goff's not playing. You could play.
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, who are the other teams that you need?
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: You could play new England and Drake Mays, not playing.
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: You know, you just don't know who you're going to
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: play and what teams are going to look like when
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: you play them. But at four and Oh, It's the
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: Minnesota Vikings. It's Minnesota sports. So I can't say it
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: would shock me if they didn't make the playoffs. We've
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: seen it before. They've had nice starts before and missed
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: the playoffs. I brought this up a couple of days ago.
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: A Mike Tice team started off five and oh, and
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: missed the playoffs. So it can happen, but I guess I,
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't be shocked. I would be surprised because the
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: offense is going to get better. How can it not?
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Very well said. All right, Ross. Listen, man, first off,
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: thank you for being on the show. But before I
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: get you out of here, man, what's it like being
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: over at Score North? You know, coming, I followed Score North,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: you know, back when it was 1500 KSTP AM and
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: all the guys had their show over there. This rebranding
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: of Score North has been very, I think it's been great, honestly.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, to, you know, you guys are not in
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: the studio. It's not like a typical radio station anymore.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: And if you could just share with us, what is
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: it like working there and, you know, being part of
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: these podcasts with the other guys? Cause I think you
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: all do a really good job over there.
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: Well, I think it's, it's a group of like-minded individuals
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: and it, it, so everybody, everybody loves to have fun.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: Everybody loves to work hard. And I mean, everybody, you know,
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: artist woods is new to our fold. He's on flagrant
• 54:14
  Speaker 5: Howells does a lot of stuff for social media AJ
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: does a lot of stuff with social media he's on
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: a handful of shows now starts with Phil Judd and
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: Declan and even Thor and all the hard work that
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: they do and you know I I'm just a long
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: for the ride no I mean I'll give myself some
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: credit I you know I do I do a lot
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: of stuff to help the guys but we all we
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: all love it you know we all we all work
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: hard we want to have fun and we all believe
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: in what we're doing and to not I don't want
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: to elevate it so much, but I think we all
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: believe in the community of what we're doing and understanding again,
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: sports is important and we want people to come to
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: us to be an outlet and be an escape.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: And if you disagree with us, that's fine. I always joke,
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: especially on YouTube. If you want to take a shot
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: at me, go ahead. It helps the algorithm. So more
• 55:06
  Speaker 5: people are going to, more people are going to, more
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: people are going to find us because you, because you
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: took a shot at me. Doesn't mean I have to
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: agree with it or I'm even going to give it
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: a split second of thought.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: But it's interesting.
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: We're just in a very interesting time in media where
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: people's habits are changing, but they haven't so changed to
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: a point that I think radio is still heavily important
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: in today's world and in today's society. And it's going
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: to remain that way. People have said you I mean,
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: you remember radio. serious radio was supposed to kill terrestrial.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Radio right yeah yeah.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: Last time i checked.
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: It's all still here but maybe what's happening is maybe
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: people just listen or consume a little bit in different
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: ways they get their favorite radio shows but it's in
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: podcast form they see their favorite radio host but it's
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: now on my phone i'm watching a short of them
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: so that stuff has changed and it's it's been really
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: fun for us to be in on just this podcast
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: space where it is largely just YouTube and audio podcasts.
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: And it's been fun to be a part of a
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: medium that is growing and growing by the day. And
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: it's also fun from the standpoint of everybody has this in,
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: in work.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: Doesn't matter what you do. There's always competition.
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: We're always working to try and be better and work
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: harder and strive to be better because we know there's
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: other people doing what we're doing. And believe it or not, Vince,
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: part of the reason why I'm here is I want
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: other people to do what we're doing. It elevates the space.
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: And in my opinion, the cream will always rise to
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: the top. But the more people that are doing this,
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: it lends more relevancy and credence to not what we're doing,
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: but just what this space is doing as a whole.
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: And you don't have to get your media from just
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: one place anymore. Almost all TV stations now, you can
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: get all their product on your phone, right?
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Every.
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: everybody gets it. So the, the world is constantly changing
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: and adapting and we're just doing our one little small
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: part to try and be a part of that. But
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: really Vince, it starts and sorry to cut you off.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: I've done that 10 times. So I apologize on that,
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: but it just, it starts working, working with good people.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: I say this every, every chance I get, cause I,
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: I don't want to say I get defensive, like a,
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: you know, like a proud dad or whatever, but, um,
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: you know, Phil saw where this industry was going six,
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: seven years ago and where he thought there might be
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: an Avenue. And, you know, we, we take a lot of, um,
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: direction from him and he is, you know, I say athlete,
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: he's a, he's a student of the game, right? In
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: this space, Phil is a student of the game. And,
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: and I know personally myself and everybody.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, we will show him things and say, Hey,
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: we think we should try this. And, he's receptive to that,
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: but we have learned a lot from him and he
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: has shared a lot of knowledge. So I always like
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: to give him his props when I feel like he
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: should get them.
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: So, Hey, there you go. Hey, on Twitter at the
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Ross Brindle, the man is everywhere. Gophers one-on-one is must
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: see TV in my book. And you know, I love
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: watching you guys. You guys do a phenomenal job of
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: breaking down the game, picking it up, going to the
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: next game and Ross, you know, First off, thank you for,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: you know, when you came over at the Fathead Bills
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: the other day, introduce yourself. I was very happy because
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I have been watching you for a long time. It
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: is just nice to talk to you in person, obviously,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: to have you on the show. But I'm a big fan.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: I love what you've been doing, so keep up the
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: good work.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: We also, as you are well aware, have a ton
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: of mutual friends and know a lot of the same people.
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: So I was surprised it took that long. for us
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: to actually say hello in the flesh I will say
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: on the Ross Brendel I always joke that I'm old
• 59:04
  Speaker 5: enough now I went to the Lakeville high school there
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: was a lot of graduated and not and now they're two,
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: but also when I signed up for Twitter way too
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: late to the game or X, there was a Ross
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: Brendel who already had the handle, but I think he
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: did like some form of hate speech and got suspended
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: almost right away.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: But I can't have the handle. He still has the handle,
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: but he hasn't tweeted it. Ross Brendel hasn't tweeted since, like, 2012,
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: but I can't have it.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait a minute.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: So I'm the Ross Brendel because of that.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Well, geez.
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: Did you find it? Does it say, like, account suspended
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: or something like that?
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: No, I was just making sure. I was just making sure.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: No, but there was another one, and I tried getting it,
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: and I'm like, I can't have it.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: He hasn't tweeted in eight years.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: It was. Anywho. I come to discover after all these
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: years of doing Sports Done Right, there was another Sports
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: Done Right podcast out there. See? I mean, it doesn't matter, man.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: That's just the way it works in this new media
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: that we're in.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 5: And everybody's good idea was somebody else's idea first.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Exactly. All right, Ross. Thanks, man. Thank you so much,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: my friend, for doing this. I hope we can catch
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: up with you down the road here. And Who knows,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: maybe after this Iowa game, the Gophers are going to
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: be in a very unique position of maybe making some
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: noise again here. First time really since 2019. And for
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: our Vikings, hey, 5-0 is always good as well.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: Get healthy. Get healthy.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, get to that bye week and get healthy.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: All right, folks.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: The one and only Ross Brendel. Ross, thank you so much.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Appreciate it.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: All right, there's our guy, Big Ross. Again, scoring north,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: some of my favorite guys over there. And, you know,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: the Twin City sports scene is really filled with a
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: lot of really cool people, man. I think that's the
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: one thing I've been taking away since I've been able
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: to meet some of the ladies and gentlemen of our
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: local scene. Just all seem to be really good people.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: So Ross right up there as well. I am Vince Wright,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: the sports governor. I want to thank Seventh Avenue Pizza.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: Go get you some. I tell you every time. Best
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: frozen pizza in the state. Shout out to the Nelson
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: family over there as well. Thank you for listening. We'll
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: be back next week with another Sports Done Right. Thank
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: you for listening to Sports Done Right with your host,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: the governor of Minnesota Sports Talk, the Honorable Vince Wright.
• 1:01:44
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:59
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