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Patriots Unfiltered 9/28: Previewing the Green Bay Packers, Mac Jones Missing from Wednesday Practice · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. They're trying to get him to have surgery
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  Speaker 1: and he won't, or or Superman his Max so tough
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  Speaker 1: that what would cause mere mortals to undergo surgery is
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  Speaker 1: not affecting a few of the packers. How much difference
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  Speaker 1: would it make to you if you're facing exactly like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, we have to playing with Aaron Rodgers,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's easy. Yeah, it is, but it also has
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  Speaker 1: a lot of pressure because he's a dude. I love
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  Speaker 1: Paul rhetories. I'm just waiting for him to get that
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  Speaker 1: Frida out of the email is absolutely right, Like they
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  Speaker 1: played more of it like an old school three four friend.
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  Speaker 1: So what I like when you talk schemes. He's all
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  Speaker 1: in eleven in his last starts. Yeah, you know that's
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  Speaker 1: not good. Eric is from the Virgin Islands, which one
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's so many, Yeah, all these three because
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  Speaker 1: he's mart quarterback who can be a good sounding boy.
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  Speaker 1: First daughter just show you know, Fred got to watch him.
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  Speaker 1: I know he's on the edge. Jesus sneaky wise guy.
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  Speaker 1: You might hear some vile things coming out of I'll
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  Speaker 1: be making the noise Mac was making coming off the
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  Speaker 1: beach direct. This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here at Gillett's Stadium,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, we're gonna be going at Bill Belichick when
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  Speaker 1: he gets to the microphone, so we could be cutting
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  Speaker 1: in at any moment when he steps up. He might
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  Speaker 1: have something interesting to say. Of course, the big topic
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  Speaker 1: is the health of Mac Jones, so you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure the local media will be just you know, really
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  Speaker 1: growing him on that today. So uh, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: want to hear from the source because Mac told us
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  Speaker 1: to ask Bill because he likes answering. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting. There's been a lot of talk and we
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  Speaker 1: talked a lot about this yesterday too, but about you know,
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  Speaker 1: surgery and this tight rope surgery that then everybody's starting
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  Speaker 1: to try to learn about. I love when these buzzwords
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  Speaker 1: like the tight rope surgery, Mike, you know, um, but um,
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  Speaker 1: the thing that uh made me curious yesterday was the
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  Speaker 1: schefter tweet and him including that line about most people,
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  Speaker 1: most people would would undergo surgery, and we talked about
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  Speaker 1: it was part of our open today. Um, that's got
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  Speaker 1: to be a question to Bill Belichick today, right, like
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  Speaker 1: you know it is is it the intention to for
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  Speaker 1: Mac to undergo surgery? Uh? Is it the team's desire
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  Speaker 1: that he undergoes? You know, I don't think he's going
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  Speaker 1: to answer any of them. Don't get me wrong, I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not naive. It's not my first rodeo. I don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you'll answer any of these questions, but
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  Speaker 1: those questions need to be asked, right, Yeah, sure, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just curious he's gonna be out practiced. There's there's a
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  Speaker 1: growing contingent of people that seemed to think he's going
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  Speaker 1: to be out there today like I would some people
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  Speaker 1: you know, who think he's going to be at practice
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  Speaker 1: to people like your name names no, no, no, no no.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think it was kind of in jest.
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  Speaker 1: We were just talking upstairs in the bullpen before the
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  Speaker 1: show of like, you know, and ever was kind of
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  Speaker 1: being like, I don't know, I think Max's gonna try
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  Speaker 1: to push it somehow, say that I've heard people say
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  Speaker 1: that like, don't rule him out. I'm just gonna tell you,
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  Speaker 1: I am going to be merciless making fun of him
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  Speaker 1: if he plays on Sunday. If he's like, that's ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: to have that reaction coming off the field and playing
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  Speaker 1: six days later, Paul Pierce is laughing at you. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But I do need to mention to all Patriots fans that, um,
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  Speaker 1: there's this new thing called NFL All Day and with
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  Speaker 1: it with NFL All Day up, let's go to Bill.
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  Speaker 1: Been looking at a lot of film here on the Packers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just start off with um. You see the films, scan
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  Speaker 1: the scoreboard and you see those names up there, um,
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  Speaker 1: and the great players and coaches that they've had there. Really,
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  Speaker 1: you know, brings back a lot of memories and appreciation
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  Speaker 1: for you know, what this franchise has done. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't really how great they've been. You know Isbell and Hankle, Hudson, Lambeau, Bartie.
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  Speaker 1: You just go right down the line and you know
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  Speaker 1: the Isabelle and Hudson, Um, great great combination there. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Hudson you know started the draft first real receiver is
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  Speaker 1: Bell Hudson combination. Now we see those throughout the league
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  Speaker 1: every every quarterback receiver combination, but really at all all
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  Speaker 1: started you know, eight eighty some years ago with them
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  Speaker 1: and um um and you look at Packers the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of years and you know, number one seed in
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  Speaker 1: the NFC. Um, that's some things don't change too much.
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  Speaker 1: So um, it's a really good football team, well coached,
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  Speaker 1: well balanced. I think we saw it last week in
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  Speaker 1: the Tampa game. You know, defensively in the kicking game, UM,
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  Speaker 1: you know, solid performance. And of course you know offensively,
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  Speaker 1: this is a great great great quarterback, good running backs,
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  Speaker 1: good skill players, very efficient offensively, schedually, know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: They're well coached, the execute well um. And you can
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  Speaker 1: see that they've made some adjustments and improvements defensively in
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  Speaker 1: the kicking game. That showed up the first you know,
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  Speaker 1: early part of the season here. So um, good football team. UM.
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  Speaker 1: Good opportunity, good challenge for us, great football environment always
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  Speaker 1: in Green Bay. So excited about the opportunity to compete there. Um.
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  Speaker 1: And it's been um good good to go up and
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  Speaker 1: a good good view with the Packers and how they
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  Speaker 1: do things in close details on the team that we
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of familiarity with. I haven't played in
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  Speaker 1: a while, but they're they're good. They're good. They're good players,
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  Speaker 1: well coached all three units. You know, Rich just done
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  Speaker 1: a good job for him. Um offensively, defensively. There their numbers,
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  Speaker 1: their performance speaks for itself. So UM saw him back
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  Speaker 1: a little while ago. UM definitely getting better. UM probably
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  Speaker 1: won't practice today, but made a lot of progress here
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  Speaker 1: in the last whatever forty eight hours. So keep plugging away.
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  Speaker 1: Take that day by day, so Sell goes, and that's
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  Speaker 1: where we are for today. Back to start on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: For you guys, take good day by day when you
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  Speaker 1: when you go through the process of preparing the game plan,
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  Speaker 1: then you have that level of uncertainty at quarterback. What
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  Speaker 1: impact does that have on that process as you start
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  Speaker 1: to put the team together. Yeah, not too much. Bryan's
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of experience. He's done everything that we
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  Speaker 1: would want to do. Mac be able to do it,
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  Speaker 1: you know with I think minimal practice if that was
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  Speaker 1: what it was. So I just take a day by day.
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  Speaker 1: We're not really doing anything differently, m HM. Is the
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  Speaker 1: plan built for Max to have any kind of procedures
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  Speaker 1: to help long with the process here? Day by day,
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  Speaker 1: film day by day, that's the plan. Day by day
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  Speaker 1: is are you and the team on the same page
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  Speaker 1: with Mac and his team as it comes to the
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  Speaker 1: injury and how to bro progress, how to move forward? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really sure what the what the nature of
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  Speaker 1: the question is day by day he's getting better. Say
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  Speaker 1: how goes day by day? Does he have a high
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  Speaker 1: ankles brain? Day by day? What do I look like
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  Speaker 1: a doctor? An orthopedic surgeon? Like, I don't know. Talk
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  Speaker 1: to the medical experts. What are the medical experts on staff?
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  Speaker 1: Set dude? Day by day we'll evaluate him, David, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what difference is to make to make What do you
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  Speaker 1: think I'm gonna read? Mr I That's not my job,
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  Speaker 1: So it's theirs and they talk to you about it. Right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's day by day. It's getting better day by day.
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  Speaker 1: See see it's tomorrow. It's better than it was yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: See what it is? Mentioned Ryan earlier when he start
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday to Maccanco. Yes, what have you seen from
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  Speaker 1: him built over the over the years to it's where
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  Speaker 1: he is now as far as going the offense and
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  Speaker 1: he knows it better than anybody, I mean from all
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  Speaker 1: of all experience standpoint. I mean this year is this
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  Speaker 1: year U, But yeah, I and Brian's had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of experience. It's been a lot of different systems. I've
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  Speaker 1: seen a lot of football, taking a lot of snaps
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  Speaker 1: for us in various capacities. But he played well in
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  Speaker 1: the preseason. We don't eem to go, He'll be ready
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  Speaker 1: to go. How many balance getting Bailey work? Potentially Brian
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  Speaker 1: is starting Bailey's snap away from getting out there. And
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  Speaker 1: there's same situation every week. Whoever it takes the snaps,
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  Speaker 1: then there's some snaps for the other player. Most of
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  Speaker 1: them run the scout team. But we've been down that
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  Speaker 1: splitting quarterbacks reps. It goes back to Bailey, Brady and
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  Speaker 1: Bledsoe back in two thousand and one. We stopped doing
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  Speaker 1: it after the Rams game twenty pounder many years ago.
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  Speaker 1: M what have you seen from from one? Kind of
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  Speaker 1: progress that you've seen from Bailey? Uh, you know since
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  Speaker 1: the start of the summer. Joe Jos yesterday was saying
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  Speaker 1: that he's starting to grasp the bigger picture and he's
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  Speaker 1: done a good job of not competing mistakes. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: would like any rookie quarterback. He has a lot to
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  Speaker 1: learn and he's learned a lot. He's learned a ton.
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  Speaker 1: He's a smart kid. He absorbs information well, process as well. Um,
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  Speaker 1: every snap helps him whatever it is, walk through Scott,
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  Speaker 1: team reps, one on ones, things like that. But he's
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  Speaker 1: got a long way to go. Is there any kind
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  Speaker 1: of emotional impact for a locker room if a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: this is time in your experience? Could there be? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. Brian will be ready to go if he
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  Speaker 1: has to be ready to go. I think we all
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  Speaker 1: know that, so I don't really worry about it. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I wass too with Aaron Rogers. You call him as
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  Speaker 1: good as anybody. Um? Is there an at an important
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  Speaker 1: son a guy like that where you you can't show
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  Speaker 1: a pre snap point you're in and tip them off
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  Speaker 1: in any sort of way. Trying to do that every week?
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  Speaker 1: Try not to give the quarterbacks anymore? All right, So
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna cut off Bill. You know, I think all
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  Speaker 1: the math questions are pretty much asked and answered. Um,
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  Speaker 1: we did learn that it would be Howyre as the starter. Um,
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  Speaker 1: so that puts the bed at least the Zappie talk. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But um, Mike Da, I want to see when Sonheim
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  Speaker 1: moon musical here all of a sudden, uh, I mean
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  Speaker 1: echoing one Max tape by day these things, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to think. Are they are they kind
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  Speaker 1: of just gonnas. I gotta be honest with I think
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  Speaker 1: that they're trying to spend any amount of time to
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  Speaker 1: have Matt Lafleura and Green Bay think that Mac Jones
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  Speaker 1: is going to be out there playing football on Sunday
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  Speaker 1: like well, and that's the thing, like say, I am,
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  Speaker 1: you know, naive Patriots fan, which some people think I am.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I have a glimmer of hope based on
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  Speaker 1: what he's saying that he's getting better every day. We
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  Speaker 1: got a lot better on the last day. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when you get hurt further away from the injury, right,
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  Speaker 1: you feel a little better every time, but like a lot.
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  Speaker 1: But he's he's leading people to believe that maybe by Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: this kid could play, right, And I think that's pathetic.
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  Speaker 1: I think, no, it's not fair to Mac Jones. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's fair to say it. I just I think
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, is this it gives credence to like, well,
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  Speaker 1: maybe even not this week, but maybe next week, Like
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna be kind of strung along now for like
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  Speaker 1: the period that Mac Jones is and that's all it's about. Mike,
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  Speaker 1: That's all it's about. So now he's gonna have not
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  Speaker 1: only Matt Laflour is going to spend some time thinking
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  Speaker 1: about it, but now we Dan Campbell next week said well, geez,
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  Speaker 1: I mean he had a chance to play last week.
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  Speaker 1: So we got to prepare for both of these guys.
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  Speaker 1: That's what this is all about, you know. And I've
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  Speaker 1: I've it's not like, well, Bill never ever ever I've
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  Speaker 1: heard him say about other it's a pretty significant injury.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard him say that like a couple days after
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  Speaker 1: an injury. So it's not like he never ever gives
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  Speaker 1: you the level of severity. Yeah, but he does that
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  Speaker 1: when guys get put on IR well there and then
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  Speaker 1: subsequently they get put on IR. I've heard him say
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  Speaker 1: that like on a Monday, you know, like just coming
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  Speaker 1: back from a game. I've heard him say that, not often,
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  Speaker 1: but I have heard that. But here he's choosing to
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  Speaker 1: say I don't know day by day, and so like
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  Speaker 1: what's the end goal? Like what's the end goal here?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, Listen, I don't I guess
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  Speaker 1: I'm naive Patriots fan. I hope it is Dave by
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  Speaker 1: Day and like, maybe not this week, but he could
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  Speaker 1: play next week. But he kind of seemed like he
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  Speaker 1: was enjoying it too, a little like did he seem
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  Speaker 1: like he was kind of taking a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: delight And except for one question, which the one question
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  Speaker 1: that he didn't seem to enjoy was and I don't
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  Speaker 1: I want to credit the person. I didn't recognize that.
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  Speaker 1: Guys in the same page, yes, yeah, and then that one,
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the fake smile left, the day
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  Speaker 1: by Day Medley left, and it was a long pause
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  Speaker 1: because I think that's the crux of the issue. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think they want him to have surgery so he
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  Speaker 1: can get back faster based on everything I'm reading. I
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  Speaker 1: don't listen. I'm not a doctor, and I don't pretend
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  Speaker 1: to be one, but I'm reading all of this stuff
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  Speaker 1: from the Alabama thing with this quote unquote tightwrote surgery
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  Speaker 1: and that allows you to get back quicker. Right. My
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  Speaker 1: guess is he's balking at that and doesn't want And
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  Speaker 1: I understand I'm not trying to defend either side here.
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  Speaker 1: I understand the team wants it back as quickly as possible.
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  Speaker 1: And I understand if Mac is thinking, well, if this
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  Speaker 1: is something that can heal just by rest, I'd rather rest.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, no one thinks that surgery is better than
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  Speaker 1: just letting it go away. You have surgery because it's
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  Speaker 1: not going to get fixed unless you have surgery. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that the way most people go about life, or
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  Speaker 1: to quick and quick end up your return? Right? Well? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well that that's two different things. If it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be okay. Like I mean, if I if I tear
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  Speaker 1: my ACL, I can go about life without fixing my
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  Speaker 1: ACL if I want to. But if I want to
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  Speaker 1: play football, I need to get that repaired, right, I
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  Speaker 1: need to get it surgically repaired. So like I get that.
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  Speaker 1: Like there's a difference of opinion there for the player
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  Speaker 1: and for the coach. I think that's the crux of
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  Speaker 1: this issue. I'm torn on it, and I said it.
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  Speaker 1: I can see both sides of you know, this potential
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  Speaker 1: rift or you know, if that drama does exist, But
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  Speaker 1: you know, on on one side of it, I see
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  Speaker 1: Mac as a kid who seems willing to bend over
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  Speaker 1: backwards to do whatever this coaching staff wants to do
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  Speaker 1: up into this point, to the point where he's going
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  Speaker 1: out into that press conference and taking one for the
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  Speaker 1: team and just doing the same day by day routine,
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  Speaker 1: which now makes a little bit more sense to me,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to roll it out. I think that that
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  Speaker 1: was an example of him not necessarily just being the
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  Speaker 1: good little soldier soldier. I think he put it on
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  Speaker 1: Belichick like, yeah, he's got all the answers ask him.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't see this jump to like
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  Speaker 1: Mac is suddenly like feeling like they're not taking care
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  Speaker 1: of him in year two. I don't know that that's
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  Speaker 1: a stretch for me. We'll see if he has surgery,
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  Speaker 1: because if he if he has surgery, I would say
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  Speaker 1: that he's doing what the team wants him to do, right,
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  Speaker 1: and that would be my opinion. And then I would
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  Speaker 1: say on on Paul side of that, which I also
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  Speaker 1: see this angle of it, is that Mac has never
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  Speaker 1: had a surgery like this. He's never had a serious injury.
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  Speaker 1: And I think in some ways this seems to me
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  Speaker 1: like the reality of playing quarterback in the NFL, coming
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  Speaker 1: home to roost for Mac Jones of it's really hard
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  Speaker 1: and you get injured and you get off the field
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  Speaker 1: and they say, all right, you're gonna be a surgery
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  Speaker 1: now and you're gonna be back in two weeks. And
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  Speaker 1: that's just how it is for quarterbacks. I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: he's in this mode now where it's like, this is
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  Speaker 1: what it is, you know, realizing, oh God, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna pressure me to get surgery. Like I see
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  Speaker 1: that side. It is the other thing. There's a third side,
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  Speaker 1: believe it or not. So you got the player in
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  Speaker 1: his agent, in his camp, he got the team, But
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  Speaker 1: then you've got the doctors. Now, the doctors are supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be independent, and our doctors are you know MGH doctors.
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  Speaker 1: MGH is known to be one of the best hospitals
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  Speaker 1: in the world for good reason, right, so they probably
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  Speaker 1: they get defensive too. It's like, okay, here's our this
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  Speaker 1: is what you should do. Here's our opinion. Well I
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  Speaker 1: want a second opinion. Well they start digging their heels
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  Speaker 1: in the ground. Well why would you not listen to
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  Speaker 1: us where MGH we're the best in the world. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, now he's going to go to some other doctor.
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  Speaker 1: Remember when Brady did that, it was a whole thing
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  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you trust what MGH doctors is saying. He
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  Speaker 1: went to LA and had that guy, he ended up
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  Speaker 1: getting an infection and all that stuff, which could happen anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: I understand that, But there's that other factor of Gronk
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  Speaker 1: is the postal child for not trusting the Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: team because of what they did with his arm. But
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  Speaker 1: supposedly the team gets their advice from their doctors, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like Jim Whalen's a trainer, he's not an orthopedic. No no,
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  Speaker 1: no, no no, no. This this team doctors that are making
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: these kinds, but those teams are not. They have surgery. Yeah,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: those team doctors are from there. This isn't their only job. Well,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: but they also have a prop thread. There's been countless
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: examples of team doctors not doing right by I know,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: and the Fox Got Suited film. But they're all affiliates.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, they all have real jobs with real hospital
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I understand it. And they also have egos and they
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: believe I'm giving you the best advice you can get.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And then the player says, no, I'm getting a second opinion,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and they the player has every right to do that.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: But there's also that there's also like and it also
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily have to be like mac Jone, Like, listen,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: if this was me, like this, this is an easy
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: one for me, Like I would do whatever it took
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: for me to get back on the field fastest. I
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: would have the surgery based on what I'm reading. Okay,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: so this is not about like signing with one or
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: the other. I'm just saying I understand the team wants
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the guy back on the field, and I understand the
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: player doesn't necessarily want to do that if he doesn't
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: have to. So I get both sides. Even though I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: would do what the team wants in this particular case,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I just think I wouldn't be critical of a guy
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: who wants to make sure it's you know, not just
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: a quick fix. You know, like he's in his second
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: year and he's theoretically looking at it like I want
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: to play ten or twelve years. I don't want to
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: have a surgery in my second year that I didn't
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: have to have that potentially could hurt me down the road.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like is there like what is the
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: you know, what is the history of that? You know?
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: How are they how are these guys like that? Are
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: they okay forever. Yeah, it's kind of new, you know now,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: And I understand that the team doctors are from the
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: point of you getting you back on the field. I
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: think it's you know, it's responsible to go and get
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a second opinion. You have to protect you. I know
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: firsthand my kid went through a heart thing and you know,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: we got a second opinion and it was a good
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: thing we did. Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean I
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: don't I don't the fact that he wants to get
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: a second opinion. I don't think it's like something that
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I would criticize a player for it, especially in that league.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And I don't think really anyone is criticizing him about.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I think it's it's the line between it's the last
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: between wanting a second opinion and other people saying, well,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: it's not just a second opinion. He wants to go
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: fishing for the response, so he wants so, well, that's
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: part of it. So that's exactly what Mike just okay, Yeah,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: So this is why I be a little critical of
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: what we just heard from Bill Belichick. So you say
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: that he's not necessarily okay, So Belichick basically indicated that
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: he could be at practice as soon as today and
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: could play on Sunday. Why then would you be looking
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: for a second opinion. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: so he's looking for a second opinion because I think
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: they're trying to pressure him to have surgery so he
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: gets back as fast as possible and he doesn't want it.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: That's my it's my guess. It's yeah, it's just like
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: gues could be. It could be you know who knows.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you'd have a second opinion
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: if they were like, no, no, you're You're just like it.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: It'll it'll heal and you maybe not this week, but
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: next week you'll be back. M Alex, you'll be looking
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: for a second opinion for that. I know who Alex
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: is here? Um and we listened, Yeah, you were there.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: What did you think? Day by day? Day by day?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Day by day? Who asked the question? Um? Are they
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: on the same page? Second? Was Mac and the team
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: on the same page in terms of how to go?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: That came from behind me. Listen, I asked you to
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: do one thing. You felt great going on Twitter and
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: telling everybody that sometimes I get buffalo tenders and I
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: shared my fries with you yesterday that was okay. I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: asked you for one favor, you dropped the ball. I
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: will come with you for a second favor. Did you
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: ask me for this favor right now? I don't know.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I thought that was a real I thought that was
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: a really good question, and I don't think it was
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: a cheap shot. I don't think it was looking to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: stir it up, you know, muck Rake. I thought it
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: was a good question. Are are you in the player
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: on the same page when it comes to the treatment
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: of this injury? I think is a really good question.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: And I thought Bills, that was his one departure from
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: day by day Phil, day by day Mike. All of
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: a sudden, it was stone faced silence for ten seconds
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: before he said anything. That one to me indicator indicated
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: that this this truth to that. So did you, Alice,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: as soon as the press conference was over, did you
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: leave right away? Or did you mull about and hear
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: what people are saying a little bit? I didn't linger
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: too long After the press conference, Stacy introduced, I guess
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: we have a new kid on the PR staff. So
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: that was kind of post press conference was introduced. So
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: he introduces him to the media before the people that
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: he's gonna work with. Yeah, I'm assuming it's a mail
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: you said his name is Jimmy, Jimmy Jimmy like a um, yeah,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I think people are kind of just still laughing from
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: that was a more comical one. It wasn't It was
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Bill appearing to kind of like, Yeah. Bill had the
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: biggest smile on his face, the get go walking in
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: smile on his face. Hey, everyone, how are you doing great?
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I'm great and like, um, Chelsea, I'm blanking on her
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: last name. The reporter who had Donald Chelsea McDonald asked
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the question about if mac was in a place Sunday, like,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not an northopedic surgeon and like
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the biggest smile on his face. He was so happy
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to an orthopedic surgeon. So my guess and again this
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: is when I get in trouble because I do stupid
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: things and speculate wildly, but I'm gonna do it anyway.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: My guess is he's like, oh, way do you see
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: what I got today? Way? Do you see what I
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: got today? I'm going to open with a five minute
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: die a tribe on Don Hudson in the history of
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the writing bays nice try and then I'm gonna say
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: and Max doing better, getting better every day, and then
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: we'll go and now just every one of them that
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: gets pitched up to me, yeah, I'll knock it right
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: over the fence by saying day by day and give
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: him my fake plastic smile after it. This is onto.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: That was all. That was all so orchestrated. Oh yeah,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: this is on to Cincinnati. And in some way, you know,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: whether or not they told Mac to say what he said,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: I think he's saying I'm gonna do Mac and I
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: are on the same page when it comes to answering
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: these questions. In some way they showed solidarity there. Yeah,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, that's why. I mean yeah, I mean,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: like I said, I think it made a little bit
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: more sense of like, all right, well, I get that
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the message is being put out, but I just again,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: it feels like a lot of effort to I just
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: think it was for different reasons they're on the same page.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I think Mac did it because he's like, yeah, you
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: answer it. I ain't answer it. You got all the answers,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: you answer all the questions. I'm throwing them all to you.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: That's what I think it was that sounds more like
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Paul talking than Mac Jones to me. Yeah, listen, I
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: know I've been critical of Mac Jones. I can't. I
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: can't see Mac. I can't. I can't do at this point.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I can't. I mean, I don't know if you watched
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: any of the press conferences all summer about when he
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: was asked questions about Matt Patricia and yeah, I think
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: it's he's I think it's been there. I think guys
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: haven't been paying attention. He's coached, and I think that.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I don't. It took Brady like a long time before
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: he started saying stuff. Brady came up under a different
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: kind of player, different kind of person. Ye, different time nowadays.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I spend all your life on the phone, and now
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: he spent three days being I know, but I just
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: sent to people tell you how I'm not tough. I
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: think Mac is a tough, tough guy. I think Mac
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: is a team guy. Yeah, I says he's not a
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: team guy. I think he if he doesn't have surgery,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: that doesn't make him not a team I don't say that.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't say that, but I think he's he's towing
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the company line right now. This is what we need
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: you to say, Mac, don't go into detail, you don't,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: don't do it. I think he's not going into detail
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: on purpose. You don't think he's press because it's a
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: passive aggressive hour to force to get back at Bill
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Belichick at this point. I don't that's because that's I
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: don't think like what I don't see. I mean, I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: think he's been with with really hard coaches his whole career.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think that turn now. I mean, I'm not
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: saying it couldn't be that, but I don't think it is.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I think he's putting it all on Bill's plate. That's so,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a passive aggressive anything. And I
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: think Bill probably said, put it all on my plate,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: this is what I wanted to and then Bill put
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: it on the training and then kill and then we'll
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Bill deals with it in his typical way by day,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you know. So I don't know. I don't know. Listen,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna be out there today. But what he
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: said yesterday, I don't think. I don't think he said
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna be out there today. I don't say
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: he didn't know if he'd be out there today. I
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: said probably he probably probably practiced today. And I don't
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: mean he didn't say, he didn't say, No, this is
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. This is and and you know, like
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: we said yesterday, I don't think the packers are losing
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: any sleep wondering who they should prepare for, you know,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: so certainly, no, I don't see the point in all
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: of this. But okay, and that's and that's like the
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: main point I just go back to of going into
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: this year of trying to make things easy for mac Jones,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: or trying to support mac Jones, or trying to create
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: an environment where he feels like he is supported and
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: can grow. And you know, regardless of where you fall
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: on this whole kind of like you know, real drama
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: or whatever is going behind the scenes. Like it's just
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just hard. You don't even have to say.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: You can say, yeah, Max's gonna lose some time starting
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: with this game. And you don't even have to say
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: two games, four games, four weeks. Oh, I don't I
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: don't need a timetable. All you have to say he's
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: gonna miss some time starting with this game. Yeah, timetables
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: get you in trouble. I have no problem with Bill
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: knock your ouse. If Bill wants to avoid the constant questions,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: he's not gonna do it because after this week, if
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: he hasn't played, gonna be ready, right, you ask him,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: I gotta ask him every day. Let me ask you this.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: This is a completely different side of this. Do you
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: think there's any chance that he gets placed placed on
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: ir between now on Sunday? Because I do. I think
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: there's a chance of that would be amazing. Well, maybe
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: after that second opinion he could be right, Yeah, well
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: something I would say. You're gonna say it was because
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: of the second opinion? Well no, but I mean they know, right,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: they know right now roughly how long he's well the
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: team does, Bill knows how roughly how long he's gonna
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: be out? Now, wait for like, let's just say that
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that was a catastrophic injury. He's gonna miss at least
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: four weeks. You're going like, in a normal world, how
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: how long would you put him like Monday? Like when
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: do you usually do it? You know? Like like is
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: there usual like if a guy suffers an injury Sunday,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: how quickly do you turn it around and put him
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: on Friday? Because you're trying to like minimize the amount
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: of time he has to be on you know what
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like, there's four games. It's just four games regardless.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So as long as you could have put him Monday,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: could have put him, Monday could put him Saturday. It's
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: four games. Yeah, Okay, okay, either way, UM avoid that
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: minimus minimum of four games minimum. Yeah, um yeah, I
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: just think. Um, I will say, like I could have
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: egg on my face on Sunday. Like if we're sitting
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: here Sunday afternoon and and Mac Jones is playing, I'll
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: say I was wrong. I was wrong. All those reports
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: were wrong, and I and I believe something. I believe
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: some stupid reports. Yeah, so I'll you know, listen, I'm
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: not telling you that. I'm just going by the information
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: that we're here, and I can't imagine every seem I'm
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: eliminating that because I'm trying to be nice. I'm just
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: going off of everything I've read. I'm going off of
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: everything I've read, and I can't imagine that every one
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: of these guys, Adam Schefter, Ian Rappapoot, Tom Pellisero, Mike Garafalo,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: like all of these national guys are all telling you
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: that it's a severe high ankle sprain and he's gonna
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: play six days later, right, Like there's a chance that
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: you could play six days later, right, I mean, I
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: think that's at least at least two weeks. I didn't
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: that Garoppolo missed two weeks with a high ankle sprain
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: before he played against the Patriots in twenty I don't
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: remember that one. All I remember is the Gronk one
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and he was two weeks later, ineffective in Super Bowl
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: for it, and he was a decoy, couldn't play. But
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I will say that there's only one position that you
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: could possibly play, and that's quarterback. And like you're left
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: foot too, where you're not really that I was told
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: yesterday by a former NFL quarterback and not named, not
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: named Scott Zolak that it's worse with the left foot
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: because you're landing on it, you're coming, you're coming over
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: it every throw. Okay, um was the way it was described. Yeah,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: that's like your weight distribution foot. Well, we won't practice today.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: There it is, and I promise you, But the x
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: NFL quarterback was not Scott zola Wow, who who are you?
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: What circles are running with? Perillo what's going on here?
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: You can't tell you, babe, Parilli, I don't thanks bad.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, this was funny. That was That was
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: high comedy. I will say that that was high commed.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Bill thought so too. Oh. Bill cracked himself up. I mean,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: he just hes laughing coming into the room. It's like
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: when you're about to tell a story that you know
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: is so funny and you're already laughing. I'm telling you
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: said that he was thinking, I'm gonna be talking about
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Don Mudson and these guys are gonna be like, are
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you kidding me? You had like the baseball comp for me.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: It was like the one song and the guitar that
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: he just keeps like pilling it out, playing that like
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: do you have to play it again? I'm gonna play
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: it again? I mean what if what if? Like what
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: if we're all wrong and our doctors have said, you
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: know what, he could play? That's what I said, I'll
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: have egg on my Mac wants to get a second
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: opinion to make sure that they're right because he doesn't
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: want to go out there and make it worse, okay,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and so I once he gets a second opinion, he
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: could be out there so can I just ask, Okay,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: if that's the case, who do you think all the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: national guys are talking to that they got such bad information?
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Severe Doc Flynn Fred Who Adam Schefter is not talking
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: to some hack local doctors. She's pretty good. She's a hack,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: she's a Patriots fan. Okay, she's always right? Who when?
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: She's always accurate? He's pretty good with Celtics injury. She
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: tells you after everybody diagnosis? What that means? Oh god, no,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you're you're confusing him with David Chow who does it?
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: He's another from his student, he's another one. But anyway,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: if Jess is doing good stuff, just give me an example.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: And I'm not telling you I know for sure, but
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: give me an example of who Adam Schefter could have
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: spoken to that said he will miss multiple games. That's
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: a good question, it is it is? Yeah, I don't know.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: It's a good question. It could be. That's why I
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: don't think that we're wrong. It's a good question. Yeah,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: And am I putting too much stock and Adam Chef?
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Here's something with Adam like has he made mistakes before
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: everybody does? But I think given that he's made those mistakes,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: he tries extra hard to make sure he doesn't repeat them,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you know, So like unless he was led down a
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: wrong path woefully by somebody who was trying to do harm.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Right he somebodily had a good sword. Somebody, either in
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the Patriots organization or in Max camp, said he's going
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: to miss multiple games. I don't think there's any way
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: he said he's gonna miss multiple games based on Doc
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Flint telling you I looked at that. Looks like he's
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: gonna miss multiple games. Somebody the inside told him, whether
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: it's the Patriots or Max camp, someone said he's gonna
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: be out multiple games. Well he's gonna play Sunday. Yeah,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: they by yeah, I mean I don't know. I don't know,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Like maybe, like again, I don't know if this is
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: this happened, But again, what if it What if the
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: team doctors on the Patriots after Monday said, you know what,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: it's not as bad as we thought. It was a
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: pain tolerance issue, and so that gets out there. Max
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: told that Mac tells his camp and this camp is like,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: no way. So they call Schefter and tell you know,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: he's gonna miss significant time, and so Schefter puts out
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: the tweet. Most would get surgery, when it's actually the
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Patriots saying you don't need surgery. You just you'll be
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: out there in two weeks if you just you're all right.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: So it could be any of those things. Yeah, I
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: think the only easy thing that I feel good about
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: is that whatever the diagnosis or prognosis or whatever it is,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the Patriots won him backer than later. That's the only
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: thing that you know, as soon as possible, they want
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: him back. Some people disagree. Mike Lombardi thinks he was
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: gonna he's on the verge of getting benched. Yeah, that
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: was laughable. I don't know, it's it's that's the only
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: thing I feel good about. I'm getting getting a popsicle
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: headache from the whole thing because it's so avoidable, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: you know, and we're gonna have to talk about it
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: tomorrow because the day by day, you know, just imagine
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: how Green Bay feels right now. Their coaching staff time
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: to put together and say, you talk about our popsicle headache. Yeah,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: they must be going crazy. I think Lafleur just said, hey,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: don't make any plans tonight and tomorrow. We gotta make
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: sure we're ready for both. There's such different quarterbacks, you know, like,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you prepare for both right right
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: from a skill set there, I mean, they do a
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: lot of different things. They're pulling up that Howyer film
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: from twenty sixteen, now that we know his name is
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: really Axel. Oh my god, what are we gonna do? Well?
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: The world fell apart with that, with with that announcement
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: on by Matthew Slater. I mean, everybody was just lost
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: their minds of Brian Hoyer being actually Axel Howyer. But
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I know that. Why do I think
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I knew that? I feel like I knew it? And
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: then okay, because it's not really that important. I like
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: how I have to ask Mike if I knew something?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Do we like him? Mike? Did I know? Did I
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: like him out of the draft? You liked him? The
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: New Patriots album runs and Moses starring Axel Hoyer. That's
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: a deep diver, even though he's talking about the Moses
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: too deep, like like parting theses our guy. Oh ah ah.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: The trainer runs. The strength of Conditions I don't know
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: brings back my favorite line every year come Christmas time,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Moses cracks myself up. Every time I say it.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Good guy, how do you like your high ankle? Now, Moses,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: what has become of us? Well, this is what happens
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: when you have no more. Like we don't do we
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: talk about the Packers? Like do we even bother some territories? Well,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I'd like to talk about them, but I have no
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: idea what to you know expect? I mean, I mean,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I think the Packers defense would look one way against
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones, like, could be totally different against Brian Hoyer.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I know, you know you can rule out Bailey z Appy.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, thanks, I did when I watched him
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: play in the preseason. But seriously, there were people thinking
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: that there was one person and I look that guy
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: up and it's not a real person. I could I
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: could give us a though. I know we're been breaking
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a second. But a little funny stat. I mean, I
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: like football outsiders. I feel like, you know, there's stats,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: but I tend to not look at stats at all,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: like through at least four weeks of the season, because
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I just feel like they're all skewed, especially not good. Yeah,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: but interesting little stat match up and these this is
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: not accurate, but the Patriots have the number one rushing offense,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and the Packers have the worst rushing defense. And if
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: you just want buy this DVOA method metric which you
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: know they use not accurate small sample sizes, but just
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: random that and be like the Packers want you to
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: run the ball and they shut you down. See how
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: much they want to shut you down trying to throw
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: it because you can't score doing that. Yeah, that's how
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: the Packers play. They're good. It's one of those weird
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: teams of the stats don't really back up. How how
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: could they? They look on tape, you know. All right,
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• 45:59
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• 48:00
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• 48:08
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• 48:12
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• 48:16
  Speaker 1: here we see Pat cheering and then whammo is that
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Bank of America life plan. Looks like he's saving up
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: for some big future moves, planning the next Vaca. Hum,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: big guy. And wait, now he's paying back his buddy
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: for concessions using Zell No penalty there, incredible, no way.
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: As if that double move wasn't impressive enough, now he's
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: beefing up his account defense with security meter. Holy Connoli,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: what a performance. Bank of America's digital tools are so impressive.
• 48:46
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• 48:49
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• 49:18
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  Speaker 1: Seymour and Brusky goes, let me stand behind them, and
• 49:27
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  Speaker 1: He goes, what do you think it was like playing
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: linebacker when these guys were here? Yes, you guys did
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  Speaker 1: all the work Rabel, brush Ki, etc. They just saw you.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: They cleaned up thanks to what you guys did. Yeah,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: we you know. And this is two gapping? Is it fine?
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, here's you have to be a man to
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: be able to gall and if you really want to
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: see what type of players you have and how tough
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: and if you have some dogs or not make them
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: two gap because I mean we're talking with Randy Moss
• 50:04
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• 50:07
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• 50:11
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• 50:13
  Speaker 1: one gap and you can get the job done. Who
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: you are right there. You can get the job done
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: and you don't have to touch nobody. You could just
• 50:21
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• 50:22
  Speaker 1: the ball. You can do that. I say, But if
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: I put you in the five where you got to
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: put hands on somebody and control two gaps, that changes.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: So I say, yeah, a lot of guys get a
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: lot of credit and a lot of recognition of these
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: quarterback sacks and just running the field. I say, but
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: what we did, It takes a real man and do that.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: And not only once. You're talking about for sixty minutes.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: You're talking about for a season, and you talk about
• 50:49
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• 50:54
  Speaker 1: We don't get no plays off. If it's a pass play,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: we're rushing, we're banging the heads, run play, we're fighting doubles,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: triple we button head. If you won gaping, you can
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: run on the air and don't have to touch a soul.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: You know, if you won gaping, If if God meant missus,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: dear block with you, you Scott Free, you only got
• 51:14
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• 51:16
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• 51:19
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• 51:22
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• 51:25
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• 51:32
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• 51:36
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• 51:50
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• 51:52
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• 51:56
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• 52:01
  Speaker 1: So check that out. The latest one Vince wolf Fork
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: and I hear that coming up, you guys will be
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: sitting down with Scott Paoli. Yes, we're trying to figure
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: out a time to meet with Scott, but he's agreed
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: to do it. So nice. Is that mostly just around
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: like your baseball career. You're gonna talk about your baseball careers.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that that'll get a mention. Yes, um, tell
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: tell Maddie. Um, I'd be willing to fly Scott in
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: so you can. Guys can do it in person. Oh,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: I think he'll Yeah, well we'll figure out a time.
• 52:28
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• 52:42
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• 53:33
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• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Matt in Ohio. What's up, Matt? Yeah, that's all They're
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: going good. Hey, So can we all start out with
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: saying that Bill is such a oh now, let's not
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: get into name calling. But it's just so unfair to
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: the media to have to listen to him say that.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but the media, we're all big boys,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: we can handle it. It's not a yeah, I understand,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: you guys are good. It's frustrating, but it's it's not
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: a big okay, okay, I'll I'll take back what I
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: said then, but it is. It is frustrating, um because
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: they're just trying to get answers. All he has to
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: say was exactly what you guys said, is you know
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: he's going he might miss some time. I mean he
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: has a high ankle sprain and then boom, it's done.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Instead of just dragging this out and making this and
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: making it a story because now they're going they're making
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: a story with Mac going to get a second opinion.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Now they think that he's going against what the team thinks.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: And now I don't think that's the that's the reason here.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I just think get a second opinion too, but make
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: the best decisions. So I don't. I hate that it's
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: becoming a story, um, because I think that they could
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: have just ended it all on Monday when they talked
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: about it. But um, it just it sucks with Mac
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: being out. Um, I don't see the competitive advantage of
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: not saying that he's going to be out, because it's
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: not like Brian Horror is going to light him up.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: If they prepare for Mac Jones right, so he'll see.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: We'll see if he's out right day by day. Yeah,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: but it's just too bad for Max development this year. Um.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: I was really hoping to him to keep making the jump.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: And it's just if Horror comes in. I just so
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: people think or you know, don't jump to conclusions that
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Mac isn't the guy that Matt can't run the offense.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, Horror's fami the league for years. I mean
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: you got to you gotta think logically here, and he
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: might be better than Mac Jones right now, but that's
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: not going to help us in the future. So I
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: just I just, you know, I hope that people don't
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: jump to that, and I hope that Matt comes back
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: healthy when he's ready and picked up where things left off.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: All right, thanks Matt. You know, like we talked about yesterday.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you want Mac healthy, but if you
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: want to look at anything positive, maybe he can't take
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: a breath. Just watch, you know, just kind of watch,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: take a step back for a little bit, you know,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: even if it's a game or two, and maybe you
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: know there's there's something to be gained from that too,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: you know. I think so just as long as it's
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: not too long. I mean it's too long, it's it's
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think football is a little
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: bit of unique sport because no matter what, you're gonna
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: go after the game and watch it. You know, like sometimes,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: like with hockey, I felt like that was a good thing.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you'd pull a guy for a couple of games,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: which you know might only be three days. You'd get
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: to watch for a couple of games, and I don't know,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: I just to me, it doesn't seem to have as
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: quite as much value in football, just because you're already
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: breaking down every single bit of the game from the
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: All twenty two you know, you know, like you get
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: a second view at it. It's only one game a week,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: So I just I think he's gonna be about till
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: the BUYE. I think it's that's it. I think he
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: comes back after the buy that's my that's my prediction.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Jets at Jets I think would be that just seems
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: about the timeframe I'm going to take a stab at Okay,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I guess you read MRIs and if that and if
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: that happens, you don't think people will be wondering where
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: he is if they between now and then they continue this, Yeah,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: of course, yeah no, I mean, let's I don't know
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: if he's going to continue this. But assuming he doesn't,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: then say, yeah, you know, we decided to do X,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Y and Z and he's gonna be out if he
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: if he if he clarifies it, then that changes it.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: But if there's no clarity, and even if this isn't
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: like I could see him coming Listen, I'm not this
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: is gonna be a mac Jones update every day. Guys,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Well, I could see him
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: doing that tomorrow or Friday the next time he talks.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: So but then you can't say day by day. No,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: I know that, but he makes the rules. I know,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: I know. But like it's like rowdy roddy piper. Just
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: when you thought you had all the answers, he changes
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: the questions. I don't think they can drag this out
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: like this. But you didn't think you were going to
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: get a rowdy, rowdy piper. I did. I don't think
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: there would be a leak though if they tried to, well, yeah,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: then I mean then you start to wonder, but why
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: not just again, Like it just seems to me, if
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: you knew he was going to be out that long,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: put him on ir go with Hoyer, do the thing
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: where we're rallying around this guy Max's not going to
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: be here. We can get rid of that distraction. I
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: think you can make an argument that that's better for
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: the interest of the team. Yeah, like you know, so
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: is there somebody in the locker room now? It's like Mac,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Mac could play, Mac might be able to play, if
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: not this week, next week, and then he doesn't play,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, this guy obviously doesn't care about it.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: He's not doing anything you can to get back, Like
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: he's coming through the locker room in like a walking
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: boot with crutches, and like, I think he could play
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: this week. So we're really doing this. It's just a
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: flesh wound. That's that's the guy who thinks you can play.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know what I mean. He was limping pretty
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: like lightly. Let's go to CJ in LA. What's up? CJ? Hey,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: what's up? Guys? Can you hear me? Yeah? Yeah, okay,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I just kind of wanted to complain about
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: like the whole wide receiver frenzy that's been going on
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: since I think twenty nineteen, because it seems like ever
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: since we got Ap and he fell out with the team,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: people have been saying about whatever quarterback, either you know,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Brady or or whomever you know, Oh, you just gotta
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: get them an receiver. Look at you know, Cincinnati, you
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: look at you know, YadA, YadA. But it feels to
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: me like the teams that are really competing at least
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: with some pensive longevity, are the ones that have some
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: defense going on there. And it just feels to me like,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: you know, we should also take advantage of what we
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: have right now and having built at least you know,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: for the time being, however long we have them. And
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: it's like, would you rather get built an elite offense
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: and a mediocre defense or an elite defense in the
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: mediocre offense? Like which one do you think he could
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: do more with in a given playoff game? To me,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: it would be you know, the readas Browner, high Tower, etc. So,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I also kind of have a
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: follow up question, how important would you say the mic
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: linebacker position is today compared to stay like oh six
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: or whatever? And do you think it's still important that
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: we try to replace Mayo High Tower versus trying to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: go and get a big, flashy receiver who's probably going
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: to fall out with the team and ask for too
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: much money in like three or four years anyway, Right,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: So how do you guys feel about that? I just
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's tough to play defense
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: and think you can win I like without an offense,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: Like I think you need an offense that can score.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: I think with defense it is what it is. If
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: you've got guys who can make plays at the end
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: of the game, you know that that's what it comes
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: out to. These games. I'll go, they're all thirty point games,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: just as that example, right, the twenty fourteen team. Yeah,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: and if Pete handled off to Marshawn Lynch, you get
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: up thirty one. There you go, right, So it's not
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: like and I think that defense was excellent, the two
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: thousand fourteen Patriots defense. I think it was a really
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: good defense. Offense beats defense. Sorry, that's what happened. Like
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: the league has designed that way now, right, And even
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: though it's weird right now because again three week samples,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: you don't like to use Mike and the point the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: points are way down, the scoring is down, the passing
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: yards are down through three weeks across the board. Um,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: but we all know that's that's going to even itself out,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: and it is geared toward offense and the teams that
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: are going to be there at the end of the year,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: or the teams that not only have the better offenses
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: but have the better passing games. That's what it takes
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: to have a productive offense. So yeah, maybe Bill would
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: rather have a defense and play with that, but I don't.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think that that's And plus we see in
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of those Super Bowls that defenses get worn
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: down in those games. Ye you know, like second half,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: they tend to get tired. You need some depth, you
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: need some secondary depth. I mean, I mean the Malcolm
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Butler's an extreme example in that in that Super Bowl
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: making the last play, but again it was what your
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: fourth fifth corner coming in? Like that's the kind of
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: stuff you need to be able to do, I think,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: to just make those plays. I definitely, I definitely agree
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: with what you guys are saying. Like obviously, like generally,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: offenses is what the NFL is being geared to us,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: and that's because they want to preserve the Brady versus
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Manning versus Rogers versus whomever match us because that makes
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: the money right and advertising revenue and these people as
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: celebrities and products and YadA YadA, Like that's why, Like
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: it is the way that it is now, which I
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: think is kind of disgusting. And we've honestly played a
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: part in that gearing that way. But why is it
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, But I'm saying, situationally, we have an elite
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: defensive mind who's worked with probably the greatest defensive player
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: ever and one of the teams and the Giants and
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: some of the teams that we have here. I'm just saying, situationally,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: we have an opportunity to just make the defense except
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: that Mac is mediocre at best, and teach him how
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: to do what Brady different years, which is avoid intentional
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: rounding by like throwing the ball. You know it's somebody's
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Those guys just still thinks Brady was just along for
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: the ride. Yeah, I wish we could teach him to
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: do what Brady did. I mean, like the greatest in
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: two thousand and one, Brady was thanks was was just
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: steering the ship. Every other Super Bowl he was instrumentally
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: a part of Oh yeah, of course. Um Evan hit
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: us back from practice. Evan, Evan Evans, all right, Evan,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: it's all on you, a lot of pressure. So how
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: did Mac look? He was not there? No, he I
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: just can't believe this. I can't believe this. He is sure.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: He is just weak and not a team player. I'm
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: gonna say it, maybe the first want to say it.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Not a team player who doesn't want it. Yes, So
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: it's a two quarterback day for the Patriots. Brian Hoyer
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: and Bailey Zappy out at practice today, only two quarterbacks
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: on the field. No Lawrence Guy either suffered that shoulder
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: injury late in the game against Baltimore. He was also missing.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Those are the two players missing from the fifty three
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: man rosters. So Jacobe Myers, Kyle Dugger, Ray Kwon McMillan,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: we're all out there for the Patriots. I would say
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: that looked like Dugger and Myers maybe a little bit
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: more participation certainly than what we saw last week, which
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: is no participation based off the reporters. They didn't have
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: red jerseys on or anything. No, no, So they were
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: out there. So that's a good sign for the Patriots.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: So if it's going to be Brian Hoyer, it seems
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: like maybe he will have his full compliment of receivers
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: at least, which would be good. Were they in pads today.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: They were not pass again today, So that's why because
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: no pa, Yeah, what's the point he creates content? Seems
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: like a pretty common theme I would say already with
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: this season is I haven't seen very many, if at all,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: fully padded practices. Now that the regular season has started,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: it's been mostly shells and nothing, you know, no leg
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: pads and stuff like that. Yeah, and um, what was
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: the mood? You know, look, I think that everybody. I'm
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: not saying everybody in terms of the players and the coaches.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: We haven't really spoken to the players too much yet.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I will speak to them later today. But look, it's
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: it's disappointing when the starting quarterback is not out there,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: whether it's you're a fan and you want to see
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: the best players play, you're covering the team and you
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: just want to cover the best players that could possibly
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: be out there. It's just not ever a great mood
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: when your starting quarterback is injured. And we're not really
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: used to it. I would say also around here, wait
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: till tomorrow, we're not We're not changed to it. Media
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: grousing anything, no, no, nothing, nothing really the going on
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: with the media. There was a little bit of confusion
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: with which clock we were on, you know, when we
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: were going to get kicked out. I like this story
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: of practice, so there is there is some tweets that
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: were maybe fired off before the gun and a lot
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: of arms waving from PR. Yeah, that's always confusing. You
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: think that we're leaving, and you know they think that
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: our time is up, so you send, you send, tweet.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: You know I found out Lawrence Guy wasn't out there
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: before they was supposed to. Yeah, I always wait to
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: be chaout. I'm always I'm always d shorts a wise
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: crouse of action now that I am not your jumping
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: the gun. But there'll never be in trouble for being
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: a little late. Yeah, exactly right. That's how I feel
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: as well. Well, I think that's bummer about Lawrence Guy.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's significant with the running backs
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: that has just kind of been like totally overshadowed to
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: no I know, And it's too bad because I actually
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: had a nice talk with him last week in the
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: locker room. We'd be buried our old I wouldn't worry
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Aboudi's day to day. That would be funny. If today
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Bill came out and like all the questions were about
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Lawrence Got, we should have them. We should have coordinated
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: gushing about the Packers running backs this morning once we
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: got off the mac Jones questions and odd to some
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: questions about that's Aaron Jones just gushing about how hard
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: these guys aren't a tackle, how many they you know,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: break so many tackles they got They've got great feel
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: for you know, they're an outside zone team. There's that
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: that word again, and they're great at finding the cutback
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: lanes and Rogers throws them to football. I mean just
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: gushing about the Packers running back. So you know that
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: this is a running game that they respect. So not
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: having Lawrence guy out there will be a pretty big
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: loss this week. Who needs to step up? I think
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: it's bar more honestly, you know on early downs gets
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: out there. Look, the Dietrich wise has played eighty two
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: percent of the snaps, which is ridiculous for the Patriots standards.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: It's been eight years. Actually looked U up this morning
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: since the player has a defensive lineman has played over
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: eighty percent of the snaps, and that was Rob Nikovic.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: So I don't know, you know the end line. Yeah,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: but Trey Flowers, you know, he was always up seventy
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: seventy five percent. Chandler Jones was seventy five percent or
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: seventy eight percent excuse me, in his last not his
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: last season, maybe it was his last season twenty and fifteen.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: I think that might be good thing he corrected that,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: because when I was going to credit him with that,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: when I go on fell great mass I would have
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: looked like not seventy five, seventy eight taken notes, So
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Dietrich wise being at eighty two percent I think is
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: really really notable. But in that game against Baltimore in
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: the second half, the adjustment, although it was too little,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: too late, the adjustment that they made was Godshaw and
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Barmore at the end spots and Carl Davis at nose
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: tackle and getting that bigger package out there to try
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: to you know, Belichick talked about it after the game.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: The c gap runs right, Those off tackle gap schemes
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: that they were running were giving them all sorts of problems,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: and once they moved Godshaw and Barmore out to that
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: five technique outside the defensive end, they were able to
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: manage it a little bit better. It was obvious, you know,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: the damage has already done at that point, but that
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: was the adjustments. That's interesting though, the usage for a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: guy like why is playing that much um and all seriousness.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: That's significantly more than what they usually do. Oh yeah,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: it kind of speaks a little bit. I don't want
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: to use the word desperation, but they you know, they
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: took some younger They did what I wanted to do,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: so I'm not complaining about it. They took some young
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: guys that probably aren't really ready to fill roles yet,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: and as a result, you're seeing more, you know. I
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: like the fact that that Barmore is going to be
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: asked to do more. I like your answer. I think
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: he's a really good player, so I know he's probably
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: getting more attention than he did as a rookie. It's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: probably getting some double teams I think he did as
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: a rookie as well. He's got to beat them. Yeah,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: And if you want more playing time and you want
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: to be more of a full time player, which I
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: think he should be, then you got to play better
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: against the run too. I don't think he's been terrible,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: but we haven't. Like the first three games have not
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: been like the games that I remember from him last year. Yeah,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: I mean about blue chippers on the roster. How many
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: Bude chippers did the Patriots really have? And if one
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: of those blue chippers is not making a blue chip
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: impact on defense in Christian Barmore, I think the Pittsburgh
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: game was good for him. I think I locked him
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: with like five quarterback pressures, so I think he played
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: better against Pittsburgh. But the Sandwich weeks right week one
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: in Week three, we're not necessarily as impactful as Okay,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: it's far more a dugger when he's healthy. You know,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: those are the guys that they really need to play,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: like blue chip impact, high impact guys. Right now, Wise
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: is the one that's picked up the slack and really,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: which is just so weird because we had so much
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: conversation this offseason about like, guys need to progress, guys
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: need to step up. I don't think anybody thought it
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: was going to be year sixty six. Year made the jump,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Like you're talking, well, you're too jump. We need Christian Marmore,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: mac Jones, you know, like all these guys. And for me,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: it's the ruse. I think he's been Like I always
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: thought he was periodically effective as a pass Russia, but
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: I always thought teams ran at him totally. I don't.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen that a ton this year. Um, so
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: he's played better. But like when I was talking about,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: like like a guy like Sam Roberts makes the run,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: he's probably not gonna play. Yeah, so you want some
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: of those guys because you gotta start replacing some of
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: these players with with younger prospects. But at the same time,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: to EV's point, where else are you gonna go? He's
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: got to play eighty two percent of this thing. You
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: can't put Sam Roberts into the game, you know. I
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: think a quality being back sort of helps a little
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: bit with the rotation in there. Maybe he's kind of
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: doing that. Tetrick Wise now role is like kind of
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: guy like Barmore certainly inside, but but him too a
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: little bit. I mean, he didn't nice play on that
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: first third down where he always another guy that when
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: he's out there, he tends to show up in the
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: pass rush like he's active. Yeah, I don't know, just
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: he doesn't play a ton, but I tend to notice
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: him every game. Yeah, it seems like Dietrich Wise's recognition
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: in the run game is a lot better than what
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: we saw in years past. Look, he's he's a higher
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: cut guy, so lever just difficult for him at six
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: foot six to be the lower man. But he's been
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: able to anticipate blocks a little bit better. He had
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: that stuff against Pittsburgh where he swum the guy and
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: got right into the backfield, and then this past week
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Devin Duverney motions into the backfield and they try to
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: hand it off to Duverney and he set the edge.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: You know, those are the types of things that I
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: think having that type of recognition block id, that type
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: of stuff really helps a guy like Dietrich wise, because
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: he's not going to be naturally a low man and
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: wins type of players, So he's got to be able
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: to see it quickly and react to it quickly so
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: that he doesn't get his pads too high. That was
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: always his problem as he got it. Yeah. Well, I
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: mean this is to be a good challenge. Like you said, Evan,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: and like Bill said this morning, the Packers are running well.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: And I don't know. He might have the numbers in
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: front of you, but I think the running game is
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: more productive now than the Aaron Rodgers passing game. Oh yeah,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: they don't have any receivers, so yeah, absolutely true. Yep.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Aaron Jones zavish in almost seven years carry. Yeah, and
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: it's not like he's got a big sample set. It's
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: not like he's only getting out thirty two carries two
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventeen yards. Yeah. Yeah, him and Dylan, I
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: mean they're pretty balanced. You know, forty carries for Dylan
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: not not quite as productive. But obviously the size with Dylan,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: that's the big thing. I mean, he's kind of like
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: the poor man there, Derrick Henry there. Um. But yeah,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a challenged for those guys. Yeah. Um,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: do we have a weather early weather report for Lambeau
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: Sunday twenty five? Day by day? We don't know, no
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: one some hurricane remnants. They have apps so you can
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: check the hurricane remnants. I thought I'd mentioned maybe it
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: was Tamara, but the person sitting in Eric's old seat
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: is responsible for the weather. No one ever told me this.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Non I was the weather girl. It might have been
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Tamara fre Fred, doesn't you know I remember Green Bay, Wisconsin.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Here it comes, wait for it. That's taken a while.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: I'll get back to you. So that's spread. By the way,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: we talked a lot about the spread yesterday and someone
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: called in. It's up over over ten in some places now,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: so there has been significant movement in the line since.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Uh oh, although maybe it'll go back down now. Based
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: on Belichick's Prescott forty eight, Max could go forty chi. Yeah,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: I have a hive sixty two. Okay, Sunday right, you've
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: got to dress for everything, just the just the man. Wait,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: which do you read? Well, you have to go hourly?
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: I read the mom you have to go hourly stwenty five.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: Mike said I had the wrong one, sixty two sixty two. Sorry,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: I thought I was reading the weather. Prescott went from
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: ten and a half to nine and a half. You
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: could because Matt could play. I think I think I
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: saw that it might have moved last night. Actually, not
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: to take away, but when I'm in the middle of
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: being a smart as you gotta let me be a
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: start ass. Don't let him do his thing, all right?
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Eight five five past five hundred is the eight stick
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: at a hot line. Let's see what Melvin in Tennessee
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: has to say. What's up Melvin going on? Hey, hey,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: it was funny with that. Um, I guess the conversation
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: you're talking about, what Vince real quick that I was
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: just kind of thinking the same thing in progression with Balmore,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: of course, that you'd like to see. I guess during
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: the summer you started to get these ideas, obviously, like
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: the oo chase, the way I never can really get
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: into him because he's always better in the summer than
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: he is during the regular season. But you wanted to
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: see Balmore step up. You wanted to see a lot
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: of people at the front step man. They can catch
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: up the teacher wise, just so somewhold be I guess
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: they give them Shelves a shot. I would imagine a
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: low shot at that, but still I think this would
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: be like a low twenties. The team's games and then
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: who knows what can go from there. And but if
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: you don't control Aaron Jones and Dylan which I think
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: obviously the Patriots will try to use Damian Harris Stevenson.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Then if you all don't, if you can't control us,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: so you're gonna be in for a long day with
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: the Packers. They can get they don't have a lot
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: of receivers, but if you who cares if you can't
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: stop the run. So I think that'll be a key
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: to this game, clear for them to at least maybe
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: get them down in the red zone without maybe you know,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: getting some field goals and they're not allowing them as
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: money touchdowns. Yeah, because if nothing, you won't catch up
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: to them. Obviously, Okay, but that would be it. I
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: think if if they get a chance to get into
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: low chance, clearly. But if you get a chance to
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: get too into I mean, the season's vital. I think
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Paul talked about that you can't give up and throwing
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: it now, no way, no way. But I mean, regardless
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: of what happened Sunday, you can't throw in the towel
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: like it's early in the season. Still the long way
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: to go. What's this thing with you and Aldred? You
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: owe him mistake or something? It's getting cocky. No, just
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: you know, being lgent. I just call him and tis
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: them off because I enjoy it. Okay, that's we had
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of baby. Yeah, yeah, that's it all right though,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: Thanks men, throwing some gas on the flames of the
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: person's arguments that are going on saying about uh, Dan's
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: in Virginia and Michigan. What's up Dan? Yeah, guys, we're
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: playing the Packers this weekend. I got a question about
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: green band general, rather than this particular matchup. A lot
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: of times I see people saying that if Aaron Rodgers
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: was with Bill Belichick, that he would have won more
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: Super Bowls than Tom Brady. My thinking in regards to that, though,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: is that I don't know that either of them would
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: have lasted with the other for the six seasons it
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: would require to win six Super Bowls. I think that
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: Bill wouldn't tolerate rogers uncoachability and his freelancing and his
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: contract demands. And I don't know that Rogers could really
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: stand being coached as hard as Bill tends to coach people.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: What do you think do you think I've never heard
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: anyone say that that that marriage would have been more
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: successful than Brady. And the one guy who I think
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: is the the resident expert on that, yeah, because he's
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: a psychotic Packers fan is Felger. Yeah, and he says
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: there's absolutely no chance, yeah, that that would have worked
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: for exactly the reasons Dan just I was neither one
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: of them would have. I think Dan makes some good points.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: It's the stuff that we forget about to be consistently great.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: It's that other stuff. It's not just playing football. It's
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: the contract demands. I thought Dan, I thought explained it
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: on both sides really well. Yeah, I why it wouldn't
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily I agree. I think Brady and Belichick were
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: the perfect match, despite how it ended up. I think
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: they were the perfect match. I also think that, like
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Aaron Rodgers is just an amazing athlete,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: but I also think, like Tom Brady, what makes him
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: so special was his ability to perform in the clutch
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: and as good as an athlete as Aaron Rodgers is.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you would have had the same
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: performance as like Look ten yeah no, look at Rogers
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: record trailing you know, latent games. It's it's not good,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. How about his fraudulent home field winning
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: streak right now after a record? Why is that fraudulent
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: because there's losses in between in the playoffs. Oh, it's
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: just like I'm a little old school. I like my
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: winning streaks to include only wins. I agree, I'm a
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: little old school like that, because you're playing the best teams.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Those are the you know they're counting the preseason ones too.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Preseason one's count So Dan, you think there's a chance
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: this weekend? I don't think. I don't think he said that,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: all right. I think there's a chance, Dan, I mean
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I I I always think there's a chance. Do you
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: think there's a chance you get you set up? I
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: think there's a punchers chance. You said to be Green Bay. Yeah,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: that's a plus four and turnover chance. So if you
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: want to say that, yeah, like there's always a chance
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: of teams implodes, right, right, that can happen, like you see,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: but you think, all things being even, there's no chance, no, none,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: not even a little. I think this Packer team, just
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: watching them yesterday, it reminds me so much of the
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Patriots. You're just gonna say they're not that good,
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: and I would say, I agree, Yeah, well the twenty
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: nineteen Patriots didn't end up being that good either, so
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: it kind of but you know what I'm saying. You
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: know what the twenty nineteen Patriots teams did, They beat
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: teams like this. Yeah, yeah, that's definitely true. I think
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: that the Packers, look, they're schematically completely different than what
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: the Patriots have ever been with Lafleur, but their receivers
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: it's so similar right where you're just throwing like Alan
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Lazard is probably their best receiver right now. Christian Watson
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: is kind of their version of nikkil Harry, Like he's
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: the rookie that they're hoping is gonna be good but
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: obviously is just playing in his first few games as
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: of his career. They got good running backs with the
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Patriots had in nineteen as well, and that's really what
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: they're leaning on. I mean, this Packard team is not
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: a downfield passing team. He has three completions of over
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: twenty yards in three games. They're a horizontal stretch bootleg
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: lean on the running game, you know, rogers make quick
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: decisions off our pos and like little pop passes and
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: things like that, and just try to get guys loose
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: like that. That's sort of what their their offense is
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: right now. And I don't know if that offense is
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: gonna blow the doors off the Patriots. Like I don't
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: think the Patriots are gonna win this game, but I
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: don't know if that offense is necessarily good enough right
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: now where you're gonna sit back and say, oh, this
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: is a thirty five to nothing blow out. I don't
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: know if they're capable of sporting thirty five. I'm more
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: worried about the Packers defense in this game. I think
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: they've got a really good defense. Yeah yeah, I think
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: they do too. But I'm more worried about Alon Rodgers
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: because you need to like basically allow nothing to win.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Um. George and Madison, New Jersey writes in
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: I emailed with a question during training camp about the
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: QB two position. You guys ignored me, he says, as
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: my four Twitter followers will attest to, I've been saying
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: the Patriots need a QB two who can win you
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: some games. In Mac goes down the jets of Flacco
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: and Mike White both had one good game in them
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: but have otherwise been a disaster. So now Mike White
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: is a better option than Brian Hoyer. Discount over the
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: aren't these guys all the same? Like? What did you
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: think of Cooper Rush going into the season? Would you
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: think Dallas was well situated? Hoyas a great guy, knows
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: the system, but does he have the ability to win
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: the many games? Do you feel or many? Did you
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: say any? Any? Any? Yes? He has the ability to
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: win you do you feel like Bill does? These cute
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: things that they may have gotten away with during the
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: dynasty but can't get away with now, such as drafting
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: a guard in the fourth round, no legit quarterback first round, uh, etc.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Quarterback too, Fred run and tell mister Prolo that mister
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Achman Hoyer is here to see him all well, see
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: he's an old acquaintance Yes, that's not sexy. That's not sexy.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: It's my favorite thing to come out of this whole
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: actual things that we've been able to do, sums pertaining,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: pertaining or what is it regarding? I'm an old acquaintance.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: EV has no idea reading No Beverly Hills. No, we're
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: an audience of Murphy of none. Mike and I. You're
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: not going to fall off at the banana and the
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: tail pipe, thank you, Matt Matty to rant about Brian Hoyer, Yeah,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: I just listen. If the if the question is is
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: he capable of winning many games? I would say probably
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: not No, But don't tell me you can't win a game.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: If you think Mike White and Joe Flacco can win
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: a game, you don't think Brian Horder can win a game. Now.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think this will be the particular game that
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: he'll win in Lamb Boat. I didn't think they had
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: a shot with Matt Jones, Joe Jacobe Precett did it
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: without a thumb. He won a game, you know, I
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: mean you can win a game a game now. This
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: is gets back to the original like if is Matt
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: gonna be out six day, eight weeks or is he
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: going to be out a couple of games. If he's
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: out six day weeks, you're in trouble. Yeah, because I
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: could see Brian Horror going one on one or two
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: and one. I can't see him going like five and three.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Ye I just can't see it. I don't care who
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: who the schedule is. I just sooner or later he'll
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: be Brian Hoyer or and he's gonna hurt you. So
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: let me ask Evan, because he wasn't here when we
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: were kind of dissecting Bill's press conference today. Based on
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: what Bill said today, do you have any glimmer of
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: hope that Matt plays within two weeks? Yes, yes, see
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: I do. That's your point, and I don't know if
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: I would necessarily right. I thought you were saying that
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: is a point on yourself. No, no, no, no, I agree.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's what he opened the door for it today.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: And when he doesn't play for six weeks, what are
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: people are gonna do? The fans call Bill out? You
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna call Bill out for you? Don't think
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: they're gonna call the quarterback out for it. I look,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: I think I think the quarterback is gonna come under fire,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: not playing. I think it was on his radio hit.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: It wasn't with the media on his normal press conference,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: where he said that he's never been hurt, not high school,
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: not college, He's never missed a game due to injury.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: And I think that there's going to be for him personally.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: I think he does look at certain things about the
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: Brady era that he says, oh, it's the only year
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: that they didn't have Brady. Right, Durability was at the
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: top of the list of things that made Brady consistent here.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: And if I can't play, if I get hurt and
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: I can't play, then that right there has already put
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: me behind the eight ball. And I think that he's
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: going to do everything that he can, including not getting surgery,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: because surgery, even though he might be better off for
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: it in the long run or have a shorter less
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: pain in a shorter period of time, he's automatically out
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: for a period of time. Right, There's no way that
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: he's going to have You have to let the surgery
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: take Yeah, and that's it. We could have this, we
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: we could have this completely flipped. This could be the
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: team is saying you're gonna have to miss some games,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: and Max I don't want to miss games. I'm getting
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: a second opinion. Maybe I don't have to. Maybe we
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: have a completely flipped and it's Mac saying I want possibility,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: and I just don't think that's what the team wants
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: him to have surgery because that's what we'll get him
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: back faster. That's my opinion, just my opinion, right, But
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: maybe it is. Maybe it's Max saying, let's not rule
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: me out until I get the second opinion. Pelisero reported
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: yesterday a NFL network that Mac is the one that
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't want the surgery, correct, at least that he said that.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: It's my understand why that's the thing. Why does he
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: want it because he wants to get he thinks he
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: can play faster. Or does he want it because he,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: you know, wants to heal? Right? You know, so like
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: what's the motive that they want to go under the knife? Right?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: What's the motive that he's a tougher guy? And I
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: think that he does have a pretty high pain tolerance,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: which I think at times last year even we saw
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: it because he took a beating early on in that
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: season last year as a rookie, and he bounced back
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: up every single time every game is his, he'd be
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: bleeding from the chin. Yeah, I'm serious. He got smoked
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: a lot, like yeah, and I think that he feels
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: like he's a quick healer and they'll they'll give him rehab,
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: they'll give him treatment, shoot it up and let's play.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: Like I really think that's how he thinks. It's a
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: totally different dynamic with like a team doctor and team trainers.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: Obviously it's all in house, but surgeons tend to like
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: that's what they do. They tend to say like, yes,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: you need surgery. They didn't do that right, you know
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: what I mean. And like one of my best friends
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: went to her when to her doctor. She works in
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: a doctor's office, and was like, I don't know what's
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: going on with my foot whatever. He was like, yeah,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: it looks like we'll do We'll do bunion surgery, will
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: operate like with a snap of a finger. She got
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: a second opinion she had a fractured bone in her foot.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: Like it's like, I don't know, I would be getting
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: like four opinions if it's me. I have no problem
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: with the opinions. I just again, my feeling is based
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: on what I've read about the history of this surgery
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: is that's what gets you back on the field faster. Right,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: what's bizarre. And I think that he doesn't want the
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: surgery because and this is why I don't blame him,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: like I don't think this is a shot at his
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: toughness in the least. Well, what if he thinks he
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't want the surgery because he doesn't think he needs
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: the surgery? Correct, because it will heal. It might take longer,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: but it will heal. And I don't need surgery. And
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: I can totally understand an athlete, especially who makes his
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: living with his body, not wanting an unnecessary surgery. No,
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: I understand even if it means I'm going to be
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: out six games instead of four. The only thing I
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: can understand that from an athlete's perspective. You could be right,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: but it could be Also, I don't want the surgery
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: because I think I can get on the field faster. No,
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: but I'm taking that part out of it, Like, who
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: knows what's going to By all accounts, it's faster with surgery.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just going by the medical opinions. By all accounts,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: it's faster with surgery. Yeah. I think what's interesting too,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: and I was reading some things from medical experts and
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: they said, look, not every high ankle sprains the same.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: So you can't just say the tight rope surgery is
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: going to work for every procause that's not necessarily Probably
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: why he wants a second opinion, right, But I think
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: it's interesting that the tight rope surgery was discovered by
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: the Alabama team physician, and to U and Jalen Hurds
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: both had the tight rope surgery while Mac was at Alabama.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: He raved him out on the record talking about how
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: quickly right back to be excited you have the tight rope.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: Probably Hates got back so fast and he couldn't play.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: You have the tight rope surgery into the wide zone.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: And because you know Fred playing the role of Paul Wow,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting that. I wasn't, but you know that
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: it seems like we're learning new terms all the time.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: Now it's the tight rope that's going to be the
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: new hot phrase. Like anytime someone gets a high ankle phrase,
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: everyone's going to just talk. So I think two, I
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: might have this backwards one of the tour or Jalen
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Hurts one of them came back in fourteen days after
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: the tight rope surgery and the other one came back
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: in twenty one days. Yeah, nineteen was a day that
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: But yeah, well we're all in the same kind of
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: a time frame. YEA. Now if you're stepping away from it,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: like what had it happened three years ago, four years ago?
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Who knows? Like what's going to be the result? Like
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: is Jalen Hurt's going to be able to play in
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: ten years? Maybe that took three years off his career.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying that's going to happen. I'm saying,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: if you're Mac Jones, I want as much information on
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: this as I can guess before I go under the
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: knife for something that I don't necessarily have to go
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: into the knife for. Again, I didn't hear my ACL.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: I have a high ankle sprain that if I don't
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: do anything, eventually we'll we'll heal. Yeah, but is it
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: okay long term either way surgery, non surgery. Is it
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: gonna be okay? Is it gonna be the same, Okay,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: that will do whatever's fast. Is this going to be
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: something I have to deal with? And again I don't.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: I never would. I would never kill a player for saying,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: especially a guy in his second year, I don't know
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: how this is going to affect me down the road.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: I think I'm just gonna play it safe. I wouldn't
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: kill him for that working okay for a chill and
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: hurts and tour right now? Well, you know, but like
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, Jimmy Garoppolo was butchered here Mike when he
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: separated his shoulder and didn't come back and play the
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: next game. They killed him. They're still in the locker room. Yeah,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: they were unhappy about it. So I would say ripped
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: out pretty good for Jimmy got the highest paid free
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: agent contract, the highest quarterback when he signed it, and
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: I think it worked out all right for him doing
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: it the way he did. Do you guys, I'll see
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: you know. Maybe I don't know why I think you
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: would know this, but a high ankle sprain ligaments between
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: the tibia and fibia tearing is correct, and any sprain
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: is a tearing of ligaments, and but it depends there
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: would be grades. Yeah, yeah, that's all I mean. Wonderful back.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: You know, I think it's a little different. Is it
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: high because it's above the ankle bone, or is that
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: why is it high as opposed to like exactly what
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: it is though, did you do some well? I think
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: what's interesting about it is on top of the fact
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: that nobody has actually said that Mac is going to
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: mix miss x amount of time, right, it's all he
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: could miss multiple weeks or people usually miss multiple weeks.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: On top of that, we don't have a grade. Yeah,
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: that's my whole point. There's a lot of people that
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: have called it extremely severe, pretty pretty but in medical terms,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: and I'm not a doctor, but in medical terms like
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: pretty severe, what is that? That doesn't mean anything, right,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: that's just that's just mumbo jumbo. Like if he has
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: a grade three high ankle sprain and that's very bad,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: that's eight to ten week in day, like, that's I am.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: If it's grade one or grade two, that's different. And
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: I think it's just really interesting the reporting, the wording
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: of the reports that are out there are so carefully worded.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: Right for no one's coming out and saying Max's gonna
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: miss three to four games. Nobody's coming out and saying
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: that Mac has a Grade three high. My opinion on
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: that is because there is a conflict as to what
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: the course should be between the team and the player.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know which side both are on. Maybe you're right,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: maybe Mac wants to get back faster and the team
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: is trying to slow him down. I don't think that's accurate,
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: but it could be. And I think that's why no
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: one wants to attach it a timeline, because they don't
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: know who's gonna win. Someone's gonna end up winning. It's
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: either gonna be Mac or the team. And maybe he's
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: back in three games, maybe he's back in eight games,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: depending on who wins. I like to put that point
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: of that out though, because the phrase, what was it
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: like severe pretty severe? Like that because he has he has,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: here's severe or it's not. I don't think there's pretty.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: I just remember severe. Someone wrote severe that to me,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: you know, like that's what it sounds like to me.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: He didn't roll, he didn't roll his ankle. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: it's just I agree with the weird wording of all this,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: and they're just da Nobody says he pretty broke his leg,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: like it's pretty broken, Like it's either broken or it's not,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: Like isn't it? Is it severe? That's the only thing
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: everybody can agree on, is that they dodged a bullet
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: and he didn't break his ankle right, which some people
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: say bone breaks are better, but I don't know what
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: depends if there Yeah, it might have been less painful.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe you wouldn't have quite Now, never mind, let's let's
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: take a break from the mac talk and do a
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: little quick game. This is a game Who am I? Um?
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: The way it works is everyone gets You can blurt
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: out one guess at any time, but if you're wrong,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: you're out. Uh. There's different clues, and so as I
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: get closer, it becomes more apparent who the player is. Um.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: The first one is I'm assuming these are all Patriots,
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. Um. First, I was a special
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: teamer who went to the same school as a former
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: quarterback for the Patriots. That's pretty vague. Um, I played
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: one game in a crucial cold clincher. Geez, crucial cold.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And I wore the same number as
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: Hoyer in his first time with the Patriots. This is impossible,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: Brooks Bernard. It's a puncher versus Dolphins in three. I mean, really,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: he literally played in one game. Yeah, Oh, I wasn't thinking.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: I was thinking he played once in a really cold
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: clincher once. Uh, okay, so he played this one, maybe
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: check the answer before he played? Did he play in
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: the snow? The snow like the snow Fireworks game? He
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: punted in that game? I think was that a clinching
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: game or something? I don't know. Yeah, all right, at
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: least I know who the person is in this next one.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: But I went to school, well five, I went to
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: a school five hour time difference. Okay, so he went
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: Adrian Clem Yes, Hawaii? Why, I mean right, he had
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: to go to Hawaii? Right? Right? Did he go to Germany?
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: He's the only one, last one. I used to play
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: with the Lions. It's this is a Patriot. I had
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: a dark visor like Lt. Mike Compton LD because it's
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: a d l oh Lawrence Taylor is he talking about
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: they're talking about with Dandy and Tom Winson? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: tell um. And I'm a two time champion, I said
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: Mike Compton. Mike Compton. Oh I didn't hear you straight out?
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: I said Mike Compton straight out of Compton. Okays, the
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: only one I remember. Yeah, Neil, I give you a
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: C on that game. Deep dis Wow, that's a little hard. Yeah.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: See I give him. I don't we don't want we
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: don't want softballs here, No, we want better games made
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: the effort. I thought that was good. The Lt. Thing
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Brooks Bernard that was that was a tough one. Yeah,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like my generation here, Lt. Ladanian Tomlinson right
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: in the head. I was thinking Ladanian Tomlinson. I absolutely
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: was one of the kids. There you go, it's like
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: one of my generations. I don't like how you sass
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: me all the time. I'm a little tired of it.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm sorry. Why don't you when
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: your boys up in your little bullpen over there all
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: by yourselves? Now, oh, the old man's downstairs. We don't
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: got worried about him. No more machines working again though?
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: Oh is it fixed it this morning? Why does it
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: always break? And you can't blame me anymore? I haven't
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: even used it. Well, I thought it was in depression
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: because Paul laughed. It was like no one comes every morning.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: I had supposed to be used constantly. Yeah, I don't
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: think they're supposed to be used the way that they're
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: used here. What do you mean I saw somebody? What
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: are we doing it? Yeah? But aren't you supposed to
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: put them in like commerce, they're in commercial Russon people.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think a commercial restaurant would get the amount
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: of used to kids here. Really, yeah, I'm down to
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: one diet pepsi day. Good for you. It's projecting because
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: like he has a chair and about Starbucks one a
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: day a restaurant A how many people go in a
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: restaurant and on a day? Please be kind? I don't
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: know the two hundred on the kind of restaurant that
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: has like a five guys five l or something. Yeah,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: nobody goes to frend Wreckers five guys fund wreckers. I
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: would go to fund Wreckers every day if it was
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: one closer. And I love eating out. You have a
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: drop for me for all occasions. I say a lot
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: of stupid stuff. I just might think, is why do
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: we have to have a five hundred soda option? Like
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: could we just get a basic seven or six? You know,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: the standard, you know, put it up instead of the
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: computer one is better flavors? Why? I just tell you
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: like the ones that you quality of the pepsi, well,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: not just the quality of the pepsi, but the fruit flies.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: Oh there are problems. I just don't want to say
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: why it breaks so much. They're supposed to industrials. It
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: shouldn't break every week every week. And you can't blame
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: me because I haven't used it in weeks. Okay, just one.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: Do you think at this point they would have replaced them? Yeah,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: I think they bring it in. I think the guys
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: just like to come into the Gillette Stadium. Oh they might,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: they might meet a player. I will really say too, though,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: Fred the vending machine up there with the food that
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: think gets cleaned out. It does like people are hungry. Yeah,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: up of noodles is my point. I think that stuff
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: gets a lot of use. Yeah. I don't think the
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: machine at five guys gets that amount of use for me.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: Rog and Saint Louis first thing, penalties, turnovers and these
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: mistakes that have played us for the first three games
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: often stem from poor coaching. If this year continues on
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: the current trajectory, I will be expecting a mutual parting
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: of ways between the coach and owner in February. Be
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: like the Bears or Vikings in cleanhouse and make the
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: front office and heads of the team younger and more innovative.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: The league has passed his coach by and the longer
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: he stays on, the further behind the team will be
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: when he retires. There's no point in sentimentality with these decisions.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: Paul anyway thinks he sucks without Brady. I would say
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: I would save that email for when he rips off
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: fifteen in a row, when you know, we see how
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: he feeled about that. Yeah, I hope are you gonna
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: get you see? But that's not my that's not my
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: answer if I think that, if I thought anything in
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: that email was true, I would be making a move. Yeah,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: and I look for someone else. But I am a
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: big Uh, I'm a big believer in the whole. Like
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: if you don't get penalties, you're a good coach. Like
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: I think Bill's a great coach because he has an
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: ability to put together a game plan and do x's
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: and knows better than anybody else. That's why I think
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: he's great. I think all coaches preach to their players
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: about discipline, ball security, Uh, you know, not not committing
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: penalties when you commit penalties, Like do you? I mean,
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: does anybody think that Bill's not going over that stuff anymore?
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: Because they're they're making mistakes. I pulled this up because
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: this this bothers me, the penalties thing. It bugs me
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: because it's coming around my side, because this is one
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: of them that I actually believe this one. Are one
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: of the least penalized teams in the league, one of
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: the least penalized teams in the league. And all the
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: time we hear from fans, from callers, from other people
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: in our world, too many penalties, too many penalties, too
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: many penalties. Routinely one of the least penalized teams. And
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: I would say that the discipline with penalties, it's not
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: even that, it's not even the timing. All teams get penalties.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: The Patriots aren't good enough to overcome. It's not it's
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: that's simple. But it's not just that. All teams get penalties,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: pass interference, holding, they get pre snap penalty, after pre
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: snap penalty, after pre snap penalty. Not a lot of them.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: They don't get a lot of them. I think they
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: had I think they had like two. I think they
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: had two penalties the other day, right, they were both pressures.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: They have six because they're not good enough to overcome
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: the six pre snap penalties in three games. Okay, I
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: also count delay a game as a pre snap penalty
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: in too many men on the field as a pre snap.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: They have more than six of those. I'm just telling
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: you because I keep tracking them every week, so I think.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: And we've also used four timeouts to avoid delay a
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: game already in three games. That's fair. I think that's
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: also a pre snap penalty. Is exactly it though. It's
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: that once they get behind the sticks on offense, once
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: they're in first and twenty, the drive is over. But
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: not for all teams. I say, a win for us,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: but Isaiah Win, it doesn't matter. I don't care what
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: happens after the penalty. The Patriots might have fewer of them,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: but they're mindless penalties, like not lined up on the
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: line is a dumb penalty by Isaiah Win the other day.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: And what we do around here is we excuse it
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: and say it was a bad call. That's what we do.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: I don't say the who says that, Mike Greece. So
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: the Patriots have the fourth fewest penalties in the league
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: right now, they've had thirty. They were extremely low penalized
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: last year. The Ravens are number one at eight. Another good,
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: well coached team right with Harbaugh. But I understand that
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: it feels like these penalties are backbreakers, but I really
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: think it goes back to Fred's point, which is a
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: second that this offense gets behind schedule when it gets
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: a negative play, it gets a penalty that pushes it back.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: That's it. I think that's that's one true I think.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: But I can understand that sometimes you're gonna get beat.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: You got to hold a guy to prevent your quarterback
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: from getting killed. I just can't live with false starts
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: and jumping off side on fourth and one in twelve
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: men on the field, which you've had at least two
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: of in three games. Like you should see twelve men
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: on the field like once a year. They get it
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: like eight times a year. Yeah, that's been a problem
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: for a couple of years. But yes, first should not be.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: But it's not a lot, Like they don't have like
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: fifteen penalty. Don't think like the nineteen seventies Raiders getting
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: fifteen penalties a game. But when you only get prestap
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: penalties three or four of them is a lot, right,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: I mean half of their prestap penalties according to this site,
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: at least are half of their penalties or pre snap
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: penalties that's my point, right, and I think but the
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: fact that first and fifteen is he might as well
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: as trot Jake Bailey out there. Now, that is an issue.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: Forget the fact that they can't overcome the guy, that
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: they can't overcome any negative play like anything that puts
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: their offense behind schedule or behind the sticks is an issue.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: And I think that's that's so preventable. But my larger
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: point with it is not just that it happens, because
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: it does happen. But I don't think that Bill spends
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: any less time drilling his team. I watched training camp.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: Every year. I see situation after situation after situation. The
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: preparation is the same as it was every other year
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: I've been out there. We're gonna go over the free kick.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go over rushing the field goal team onto
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: the field with its clock running. We're gonna do it
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: while we run up to the line and spike it,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: or the field goal team runs on the field. We're
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: gonna do it with the time out without a time
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: I've seen them do every one of these scenarios a
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: mindless amount of times over the twenty plus years. He
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: does it the same way every time. They're not all
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: of a sudden polly coached, right, They're still exceptionally well coached.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: Like Dan Campbell doesn't tell us, guys, go out and
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: jump offside, right, go out and see if he can
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: fumble today? You know what, you don't do enough. I'm
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: on ross A Brown. You catch a lot of passes,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: but you don't have any fumbles. Why don't you see
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: if you can lose one? So I want to guess,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: and who is the most penalized team through three games?
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: Because if we could make this about coaching, it's not
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: the Lions, but it is no no who everybody thinks
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: it's probably the worst coach head coach in the league, right,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: and it's not Dan Campbell. It's not Dan Campbell. That
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: would have been my pick San Diego, No, no, oh, Denver, Oh,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, Yeah he's uh yeah. They had a million
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: false starts in Seattle first game of the year, and
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: they've had a number of delayed games too. I think
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: you're right, Paul, like like the message hasn't changed, but
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: like the penalties I feel like have changed, you know,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: like these mental mistakes are continuing to pop up. No,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: I know, but like, let's not say that they're polly coached.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: As a result, their players aren't as good as used
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: to be. I mean, I mean, I I that's really
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: with you on that point too, But I also, I
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: mean I think I'm pushing more to the side of
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: like is the message still resonating. Are these guys still
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: getting on the same page maybe, like like it doesn't
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: take a talented player to not jump off to I know,
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: but like some guys don't have the discipline that that
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: it takes, just like the ball security, I don't know,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: like how much discipline does it even take though, Like
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: it's just an ounce of self awareness. Isaiah win secure
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: point is interesting too because his tape on like a
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: block to block basis is actually pretty solid through three games,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: but he's got like six penalties and half of them
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: are more are pre snap false starts. I think it's right,
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: and it's just when you actually break down the technique
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: and if is he gett into his landmarks and is
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: he actually making the blocks? Are asking him to make
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: more times than that he is. But I guys, I
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: see what you guys are saying, and I I mean,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: I get it, And Alex, You're right like it shouldn't take,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: you know, the most disciplined play to say I can't
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: fumble to But you do wonder just the snaps on too.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, how about how about your look at last year?
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: We had two glaring examples that I railed against all year.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: You know. Romander Stevenson fumbled in the opener. We didn't
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: see him for like a month. And JJ Taylor fumbled
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: against Tampa. We didn't see him again still, and now
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: Nelson Agle was allowed to fumble twice in two in
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: three weeks, you know, and there was no repercussion in
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: between there. Ken Kendrick Bourn fumbled. Is that the reason
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: why he doesn't play? I don't know. I don't think so.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: And to your point, how many times in training camp
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: have we seen them do ball security drills? Every single
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: player that touches the football goes through ball security drills
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: and there's guys whacking him with those those pads, or
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: they ripped down on the ball they're trying to put
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: times we've seen Bill take out the hose to train
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: him for rainy, rainy games. Right, put that away, Thank
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: you for that clarific. I think it's I think it's
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: a perception thing. Yeah, half their penalty is a priest
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: app but that number is low. It's low. It's low,
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: and I'm not I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: It's comparable to probably most other teams, or maybe even
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: not as bad. So but to me, it's just I'm
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: gonna get back to the state I've always, like Evan said,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: when they get behind schedule, when they get behind the sticks,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: they can't overcome it because they become easy to defend.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: I'll go back to that, but i they're easy to
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: defend because they're players. But that's I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: die on that hill with you, Fred, But they weren't
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: easy to defend against Baltimore. Eight explosive plays, four hundred
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: yards of offense. I mean, they moved the ball, they
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: had it, they had it. They had a really solid
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: offensive day to that, and accept a mistake killed their momentum.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: It's fumbles, Nelson Aglor fumbling and that spot is just
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: an absolute killer. Yeah, you know, and it just it
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: shocks me because I remember last year Kendrith Bourne was
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: talking about how Belichick changed the way he carries the
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: football and that was a big reason why he became
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: a really good Yeah, he credited him with breaking the touchdown. Yes, yes, yeah,
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: I mean I could give you about twelve examples of this.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: So so Kendrick Bourne last years is saying. I'm not
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: saying Kendrick Bourne is going back on that or anything,
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: but he said last year that Belichick changed the way
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: he carries the football on the open field, made him
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: more aware, made him a better ball security receiver, and
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: he was one of the best yack receivers in the
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: league last year statistically. And Kendrick Bourne's getting the same
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: coaching that Nelson Aglore is getting right, And ye, they
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: both fumbled on something. Yeah, it just the fumbles. I mean,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: that play is one of the better throws I've seen
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: Mac make to the middle of the field in a while. Yes, yeah,
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: it hits some mentor ride over two defenders, an absolute dart.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: It goes for a big play and he fumbles at
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: the end of the run. And it's just it's a killer.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: You can't have those types of mistakes and beating. Just
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: throw my hands up him. Let's go, Paul, We're going
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: to do the post game show. This is over. That
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: was was it on that one. It was on the
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: last pick, on the last pick when. But the penalties thing,
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm not blaming fans for not being able to
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: watch all thirty two teams, but I think that that
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: really is what it comes back to, is that Patriots
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: fans watch the Patriots, right, and maybe they watch the
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: other team they're playing. And I'm with Patriots fans on
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: that that's the only team I care about. I don't
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: care what how many penalties the other teams are getting.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: That's why you have to look at the statistics and say, Okay,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: are they actually getting a lot of penalties or are
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: these just situational, timely penalties that stand out in our
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: heads that we are aware, hyper aware of because we're
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: so focused on watching the PA because every play, every
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: play is precious. But I'm just I'm used to seeing
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: I'm used to seeing the other team lining up to
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: kick like a forty eight yard field goal and that
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: cheesy high school hardcount. We're gonna slam down on the
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: defensive line. Everybody's gonna violently shift to the left to
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: try to get the field goal team to so he
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: makes it a fifty three yard field goal. And it
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: worked every time. Now, it works against us. Now we
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: do those things. I don't care how many times. I
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: don't care if we do it less than the other teams.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: We do it. We never used to. We never used
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: to fall for the banana and the tailpipe. Now Carl
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: Davis jumps offside on an art account on fourth and
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: one in the first series of the season, like that
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: never used to happen. Next week, Um, yeah, we had
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: another one the next week. We should have given him,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: but Pittsburgh didn't snap the ball. I remember that now,
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: was that Carl Davis again might have been Wow, let's
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: go to Eric in New Jersey? What's up Eric? Hey?
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: For though? I had a question? So let's let the
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: defense here, Um, Barnmore here. I'm not gonna I'm not
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: gonna bury the guy out here trying to chase from
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: More around. But what are we going to see that
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: that breakout game from him that you know, I think
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: that we've been waiting to see. And you know, as
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: far as the linebackers, you know, Matt Wilson, Ray Kuaming
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: Mill and they just don't seem to be answering the
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: bell here. I know it's still early, um, but you know,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: we have no answer moving forward, and I think this
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: youth movement that we had, I mean looking you know,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: scanning through the pieces on defense, like who do we
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: have here to build? I know Bentley has his role here,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: but I mean just looking this to early just seems
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: the blues that we have here, what do you guys
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: take on that? Yeah, so you know Barmore and then
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: the linebackers. You know, I don't know about Barmore. To me,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: he's got to get out there more. He's he can't
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: be just a pass down lineman. You know, That's not
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: why we got him in the second round, um and
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: why I think some people think he was higher talent
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: than that. So I don't know it. Probably there's stuff
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: going on in practice where he's not earning to be
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: out there on four downs, but or at least three downs.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: But well, you know, I don't know, Yeah, you know.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: And then the linebackers, I'm not I mean, I'm still
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: I'm still giving them a chance. I mean, ray Le
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  Speaker 1: McMillan is the whole year within ACL. He played two
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  Speaker 1: games and then he broke his thumb and apparently you
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  Speaker 1: know he's back out there now. And mac Wilson I
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: said yesterday, I felt like he was in a under
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: against that offense exactly what I was. And I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I think it's unique though, like it's
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: like I could get it, Like it wasn't what we wanted.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody wants a mobile linebacker to deal with Lamar Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: but they got him like just like they get most people.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not like totally out on those guys yet,
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  Speaker 1: but I hear what. Yeah, Pittsburgh, we were lauding mac Wilson.
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  Speaker 1: We were saying he had a great game, right, he
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: had a great play. Okay, but that tends to like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he started, he started, but if he started,
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  Speaker 1: and that's my point. But it wasn't a problem. If
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  Speaker 1: you make a flash play, that's all it takes around
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: here to get like he's gonna play. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: just got about the other fifty plays. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and the lack of Dugger certainly was an issue. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, I just I wonder if they're going to
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  Speaker 1: continue going forward in the future years to keep trying
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  Speaker 1: to play strong safeties as linebackers and you know, if this,
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  Speaker 1: like I wonder if they were gonna do it this year,
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  Speaker 1: And it seems like what they Their response was was, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: kind of, we're gonna put Bentley and to buy on
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  Speaker 1: the edges a little bit and not play them off
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  Speaker 1: the ball as much as we'd had before, and listened
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  Speaker 1: to that in that game that hurt. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: do I think they would have shut him down? No,
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  Speaker 1: but I think he's the right guy. I think he's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And that's what you needed against the you know, physical team,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And I thought that maybe Wilson's experience because
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  Speaker 1: I think he had to have played no, that's always said, right,
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: you know, from Cleveland. He had to have seen that,
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  Speaker 1: Like he didn't look like he's what what he got
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  Speaker 1: into on Sunday was ball watching essentially, right he was.
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  Speaker 1: I think with the Patriots taken defensively, we hear it
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  Speaker 1: so many times, do your job, And I know that
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  Speaker 1: that gets cliche and everything like that, but against a
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  Speaker 1: team like the Ravens and Lamar, you really actually need
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  Speaker 1: to just do your job because if you're constantly just
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  Speaker 1: trying to read the mesh point and follow where the
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  Speaker 1: ball is going, then you're gonna look lost. And if
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  Speaker 1: you just know, okay, like my role in the fit
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  Speaker 1: is the play side b gap, like that's my that's
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  Speaker 1: my run fit on this play, and he just play
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  Speaker 1: the B gap and you don't get caught up with
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: all the window dressing and stuff like that. He got
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: up in it. That's how you have success against an
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: option offense. Like that's how you have success against Lamar.
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  Speaker 1: And I think on Sunday, way too many guys were
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: trying to just read out every single play at the
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: mesh point and then trying to figure out where the
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: ball was going. And there's a reason. On top of
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: him just being super athletic, Lamar is really good at
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: hiding the football at the mesh point and making you
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  Speaker 1: jump one way or another and out of your gap.
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: And that happened a lot on Sunday. Yeah, Bentley too,
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: I felt like he was in that that mix Peppers somewhat.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: I felt like, yeah, I undersized and they ran over
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: him with it. They just continue to do that right
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: And and that's another thing about this safety is playing
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: in the box. And I think a big reason why
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: they missed Kyle Duggar two is he's got a little
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: bit more size and play strength, I would say than
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: Jabriel Peppers. But some of the bigger runs that they
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: had on the design runs. Were those gap runs where
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: they're folding the offensive the defensive line and they're going
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: guard to safety. Yeah, right, so that they're running a
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: weak side coming Jabriel Peppers is trying to take on
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: a guard in the hole. I mean, that's not a
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: matchup you're gonna win if you Okay, thank you? Uh
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: one more quick email one and Stratford, Connecticut. Um, he says,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: if you're in that area in August, making an effort
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: to stop at Solernos for plumb tomato pie tomato, it's
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: scamarza cheese, all right. Anyway. Two questions. One, are we
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: concerned that Barmore's play style is being changed forcibly and
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: he's not being used for his strengths. I'll defer to
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: you on this one. I think I'll like. I think
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: we're getting to the point honestly, and I look, I
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: get it the team has struggled since the last year
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: at a point, but like not everything that Bill Belichick
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: does is wrong, And I feel like we're constantly in
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: this mind now where every single player's development they're ruining somehow,
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: Like Christian Barmore is not being used correctly. This guy's
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: not like playing that guy's you know, in the wrong
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: offense or whatever. It's like always like that. But I
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: do think that the first three weeks of the season,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that too is necessarily the most mobile guy,
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: but they do a lot of moving pockets, right, They
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: boot leg and they move the pocket a lot. So
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: that's one week where gap discipline and rush lane integrity
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff is important. Trubisky is
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: definitely a guy that can run around a little bit,
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: and probably was the only way that they were going
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: to lose to him is if they let him run
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: around like crazy. And then obviously Lamar so these first
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: three weeks, and maybe this is also partially just where
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: the league is going, is that they play a lot
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: of athletes at the quarterback position now, and especially in
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 1: the division. You have two offenses that are going to
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: move the pocket. You have Josh Allen like it's going
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: to be more of that. You got Aaron Rodgers who
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: can move, yeah, Jerry Goff they like to use the
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: same kind of way with those short boots and you know,
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: get them out, you know, justin fields. Obviously they don't
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: they don't want him throw when they want him running
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: they're not letting them throw, so you're going to see
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: a lot more of that kind of style. Number Two,
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 1: considering how many note calls that were in the Patriots
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: Ravens games, do you think the on Mac was egregious
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: and ill intentioned? I know what D Lineman's got to
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: do his job, but it seemed like the ball was
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: long gone as Calais seemed to be leveraging like a
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: Middle Ages battling catapult. Oh, I don't know. I don't
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: know about that one. I got that an good question
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: the mail bag too. I didn't. I mean, it just
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: kind of felt like he fell on him and I
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: don't know, could he have taken more effort to not
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: I have a controversial take on this. I could say
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: if it was every Patriots fans would be screaming right now,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: and I don't hear any screaming. I have a controversial
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: take on it. I think the league's rules caused this
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: injury because you're not allowed to land on the guy.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: I think Calais Campbell intentionally moved all of his weight
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: to the left, so as he landed on the ground,
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: you watch him land. He does not land anywhere on
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones. He lands on the ground, but the foot
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: is pinned underneath him, and I think he made such
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: an effort not to land on mac Jones that he
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: ended up hurting mac Jones. Now the late part of that,
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: you could tell me that maybe it was late. I mean,
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: I'm watching it in super slow motion. Every time I
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: see it now in motion. When it's super slow motion,
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: it looks late. But live, I didn't. I didn't think
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: anything of it. I try not to watch plays like
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: that multiple times. But in all seriousness, he lands directly
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: next to mac Jones, and I think he did that
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: because he knows if I land on him, I'm going
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: to get one of those burping calls. You can't burp them.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the dumbest rules they
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: put in, like you can not allow to tackle a
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: guy in a certain way. Come well, like what are
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: you supposed to do? All right? I think I think
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: they caused an injury. That's going to be it for
• 1:59:36
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