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Best Of 2024 Full Interview: October London Talks New Album, Death Row Records; Working With Snoop,'The Rebirth Of Marvin,' + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's d j Envy Jess hilarious, Charlamage the guy. We
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  Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club Justics on maternity leave. So Laura
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  Speaker 3: la Ross is filling in, and we got our niece
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  Speaker 3: with us today, Nyla, big Nyla. All right, And we
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  Speaker 3: got a special guest in the building. We have October London.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome brother.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, sir, Good morning. How do you feeling.
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  Speaker 1: I feel good? Feel good? Man?
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  Speaker 4: Is it hard to put on the double vestitude and
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  Speaker 4: time stumble in the morning? Not at all.
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  Speaker 1: I actually love it. YEA fresh look, very fresh, Yeah
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  Speaker 1: for sure. Sometimes I sleeping on the bus.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're signed to death row Yeah with snoop.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, now talk about how you got the deal and
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  Speaker 3: how he heard you and how that all came together.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeahah, so I was actually on my way to graduating
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  Speaker 1: truck driving school truck and school truck and school. No,
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  Speaker 1: I quit right before.
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  Speaker 4: Some time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a.
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  Speaker 4: Lot of trucks. I just don't like how they drive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot to it. But I was about
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  Speaker 1: to I didn't. I didn't do it because I end
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  Speaker 1: up linking up with Jazzy Fay. I ended up, you know,
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  Speaker 1: linking up with him through a friend of a friend,
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  Speaker 1: and I got his number and I text him like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: I got these records, you know, blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: But I was sending them records. There were rap records,
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  Speaker 1: their records for future, there records for all these other artists.
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  Speaker 2: You were producing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was producing, you know. I was writing
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  Speaker 1: them all oh yeah, yeah, putting hooks on them. And
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  Speaker 1: I happened to just kind of sneak in one of
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  Speaker 1: my songs that I did call color Blind that had
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  Speaker 1: that kind of Marvin lane, and I sent it to him.
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  Speaker 1: I just waited, and he hit me back and was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: you got some you got some heat, you know, linking
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  Speaker 1: up with somebody. He didn't tell me who it was.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, I'm not gonna tell you who it
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  Speaker 1: is or anything like that, but I'm looking over with somebody,
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  Speaker 1: like really important legend in the game. I might play
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  Speaker 1: it for him. I was like, oh, awesome, cool, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know it's I've been through the Ringer, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm like, all right, cool, whatever, whatever, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I kept going back to school all that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff as far as trucking and and come. But
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  Speaker 1: we kept you know, conversation on and off. So that
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  Speaker 1: was like that was like December when I got to
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  Speaker 1: talk to him first. So fast forward to about February
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  Speaker 1: and he hit me up and he was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: you remember I told you I was gonna play your
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  Speaker 1: records for someone. I was like yeah. He was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have him call you or we're gonna call
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  Speaker 1: you together and you can talk to him and he can,
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  Speaker 1: you know, tell you what's up. I was like, all right, cool,
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  Speaker 1: this was twenty sixteen now, yeah, up to sixteen. And
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  Speaker 1: the night before the Super Bowl, he hit me up
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  Speaker 1: and was like, yo, I got that person online. Hold
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  Speaker 1: on this second and he was with him and he
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  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's the big homie Snoop dog Man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. I was like, Oh, how did
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  Speaker 1: you feel? I honestly, I was like this, this has
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  Speaker 1: gotta be a joke. I was like, you know, at
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  Speaker 1: that point, I'm like, nah, this can't be real. And
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  Speaker 1: yeah it was. It was real. And he was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna fly you out. Me and Jazzy gonna link
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  Speaker 1: up talk about you know, how we're gonna do this.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna do it together, said okay, cool, And a
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  Speaker 1: couple of days after that, he was like, yeah, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna fly you out around March, so you know there
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  Speaker 1: in March sixteen two, and I was around that's when
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  Speaker 1: I met him.
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  Speaker 4: But why why why just throw away to see the
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  Speaker 4: l dream? We need a lot more true? Shut up? Man?
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  Speaker 4: But I mean he was right there, man, he was.
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  Speaker 1: I was right there, But I don't know, it just wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't for me at that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pass up opportunity.
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  Speaker 4: I'm actually I guess the question I'm really asking about
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  Speaker 4: is just faith, Like, how does your discernment say, Man,
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  Speaker 4: even though I've been doing this for so long and
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  Speaker 4: I'm right there, I'm gonna have faith in this situation
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  Speaker 4: over here to pool coming through?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I I believe in God. So I
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  Speaker 1: just kind of was going off for him, and I
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  Speaker 1: really was like, no, this is gonna be messed up.
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  Speaker 1: You need to go stick with this due to nine
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  Speaker 1: to five. It's just gonna be another obstacle. You're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna make it the same thing I've been doing for years.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, I've been oh, it's about to be on.
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  Speaker 1: Oh now it's not happening. No, it's about to be
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  Speaker 1: on always. I've done that several times over. So at
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  Speaker 1: first I was kind of skeptical. I was like, man,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna go out here. He was gonna hear your music.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna say, okay, cool, You're gonna do one song.
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  Speaker 1: It's not gonna go nowhere. What I'm thinking a million things,
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  Speaker 1: And it just happened, you know, it just we got there,
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  Speaker 1: me and him click. You know, me and him both
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  Speaker 1: are libras. So we did one song. He played one beat.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, yo, I want you to hear this track.
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  Speaker 1: He played it got it's called top Down. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's out still and uh. He played that record and
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  Speaker 1: I instantly started, you know, writing to it, and I
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  Speaker 1: had a hook really quick, and he was like, damn, okay,
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  Speaker 1: all right. He's like going to studio and you know,
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  Speaker 1: record it, went in there, recorded it, he put his
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  Speaker 1: verse on there. He's like, all right, let me do
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  Speaker 1: something else. Put it another beat and I did that
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  Speaker 1: one really quick and he was like, okay, so you
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  Speaker 1: got a little work ethic and then me and him
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  Speaker 1: for the next six months, maybe three to six months,
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  Speaker 1: just back and forth working at ch' like work ethic
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  Speaker 1: because he was like, okay, you you're for real.
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  Speaker 5: How did your family feel about you being like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 5: I was this close, but I'm gonna just go over
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  Speaker 5: here and do this thing because they've been riding a
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  Speaker 5: ways with you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been riding and raised with me for a
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  Speaker 1: long time. But they've been really supportive. Family, friends, everybody's
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  Speaker 1: been supportive. I don't know how many times I've called
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  Speaker 1: my boy Jamie, but.
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  Speaker 2: They in the business.
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  Speaker 4: Though.
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  Speaker 2: Your mom's the singer of your dad.
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  Speaker 1: My dad was. My dad was in the business. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my dad was in the business. He toured and you know,
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  Speaker 1: with Earth Wind and Fire and all that kind probably
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  Speaker 1: opening up for him something like that, but it never
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  Speaker 1: really reached this level. So he's a static, gotcha.
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  Speaker 5: So that's where your soul for like, your household was
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  Speaker 5: full of music. Absolutely, I hear it in all this time.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I grew up on before even listening to even rapper,
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  Speaker 1: even Snooper any thing. I was listening to Earth Wind
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  Speaker 1: and Fire, I was listening to confunction.
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  Speaker 4: I was just not.
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  Speaker 1: You know, so many artists. Frankie Beverly rest in peace.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: So I've been listening to old school for a while,
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  Speaker 1: and then I started listening to jazz and I started
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  Speaker 1: getting into that more, a little bit of Miles Davis.
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  Speaker 1: So as far as music goes, I'm all across the board.
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  Speaker 6: Now, where were you before you got the call to
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  Speaker 6: go to LA Because how does the truck driver connect
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  Speaker 6: with Jazzy fay Well?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it was just because my boy
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  Speaker 1: knew somebody that knew something.
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  Speaker 4: It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was that whole you gotta know somebody kind of
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  Speaker 1: aspect to it. So, you know, my boy DeMarco Black
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  Speaker 1: called me and was like, Yo, come over to the house.
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  Speaker 1: I got this contact. I was like, all right, Cool.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I really don't want to do this. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing this. I'm about to do this nine to
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  Speaker 1: five things. Man, I'm tired. I don't want to you know.
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  Speaker 1: I went over there. I was like, okay, cool, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's make this call. And then we ended up making
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  Speaker 1: the call in it it just worked out.
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  Speaker 6: Were you doing all of this in Indiana or did
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  Speaker 6: you like venture out to another Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I was doing all this in South Bend, Indiana.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, South Bend, Indiana. That's where Mayor Pete used to be.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he gave me a proclamation before he dipped
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  Speaker 1: out office.
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  Speaker 4: What kind of time that must be, like a progressive
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  Speaker 4: time if they elected the first well I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if he's the first game man. He had to be
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  Speaker 4: the first game man in South Bend, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's up. Yeah, you have Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 1: I live for the cross street from Notre Dame, so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so you have that. But yeah, it's a college town.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's not too small and it's not it's
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  Speaker 1: not a big town at all.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, he gave you what a key to the city.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, he gave me the option. He said, either
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  Speaker 1: I can give you the key to the city, because
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  Speaker 1: he had heard Colorblind and saw where I was going
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  Speaker 1: with it. And it's not South Bend. It's definitely not
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  Speaker 1: musically inclined at all. It's more sports. It's Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 1: Or it's cold, so it's all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So he was like, you can either a Keida city
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  Speaker 1: you can have the proclamation. I was like, okay, Well,
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  Speaker 1: was the key to the city can open up, but
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  Speaker 1: it's like, you know nothing, but you can have this proclamation.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like yeah, yeah. I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I knew, but I was just like I
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  Speaker 1: was kind of being you know, I wasn't like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what door is, like what is this? Are you you know? What?
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  Speaker 1: Am I getting out for this? And he was like no,
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  Speaker 1: it's just you know. I was like no. I was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I'm good ilamation.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was just let it just go.
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  Speaker 4: A great dude, piece a great dude.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, No, he's good. He's good. So it
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  Speaker 1: was like the proclamation you have your own day and
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  Speaker 1: they have to celebrate you for the rest of your
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  Speaker 1: life on this day. And I was like, I'll take that.
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  Speaker 2: Now. You signed to death Row?
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  Speaker 3: Was were you nervous to sign the death or because
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  Speaker 3: this was the relaunch of death Row and I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: you know, with with icons like pop and Snoop and
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  Speaker 3: DPG and all that, I'm sure people were assuming the
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  Speaker 3: first one was gonna be a rapper, right, a.
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  Speaker 2: Hardcore rapper, but it was it was you. Was you
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  Speaker 2: nervous at all?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah, I just knew. I was in the room
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  Speaker 1: when he was finishing the call like deals done, okay?
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  Speaker 4: Cool.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, bad, oh, this is gonna be dope
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  Speaker 1: for you, man, you know, gonna find some dope wrapper
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  Speaker 1: out of La or somewhere like that. And he was like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be you. I'm like, what, like that don't
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  Speaker 1: even make sense. This is a gangst the rap label.
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  Speaker 1: Like I thought we was doing this other thing. He's like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna be the flagship for death Row.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I've been learning how to cut well
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  Speaker 2: yeah like that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm working on it. But I'm just like, man,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna work out, but it's snoop.
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  Speaker 1: You kind of roll with that and it worked out.
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  Speaker 1: It was just we're like, we're gonna put out this
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  Speaker 1: R and B album. Whatever this R and B album
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be. We didn't figure out what it was.
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  Speaker 1: He knows I'm a multi genre artist, so he's like,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna figure it out along the way, but you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the first person that we put out.
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  Speaker 6: Your death Row like legacy. Like Doctor Dre or Sugar
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  Speaker 6: like commented on your work.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Doctor Dre has for sure. Yeah, yeah, I've
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  Speaker 1: been in the studio with doctor Dre several times. I'm
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  Speaker 1: actually on the new uh drean Snoop album that's coming
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  Speaker 1: out this year.
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  Speaker 4: Missionary.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, missionary crazy title.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. So I've I've been able to hear
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  Speaker 1: that whole album in full, and that album sounds incredible,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, So shout out to Dreams.
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  Speaker 4: So on that level, is it? Because you knows a
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  Speaker 4: lot of expectation Dre and Snoop, they're saying, is to
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  Speaker 4: follow up the doggy starts, a lot of expectation.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: It meets the mark.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it hits the mark definitely. So you know, Dre
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  Speaker 1: Dre definitely loves my music. I've played the other stuff too,
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  Speaker 1: but he really loves and even that track that I'm
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  Speaker 1: on is very Marvin gay esque because he you know,
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  Speaker 1: he loves Marvel.
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  Speaker 4: Now I'm being nosy.
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  Speaker 5: Is the project cohesais?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 6: Is there a message with a missionary or like I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't want to give too much?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to give too much. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to you know, I don't need Drake calling me.
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  Speaker 4: I do not need that. What happened with the Marvin
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  Speaker 4: gate wasn't Dre doing the mark what they were doing
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  Speaker 4: a Marvin Gaatee movie and he was doing the soundtrack.
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  Speaker 4: Were you involved in that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's what I heard. I heard that there
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  Speaker 1: was a soundtrack or something like that, or a movie,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know where it was going. And I
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  Speaker 1: think I was going to be a part of that.
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  Speaker 1: But I haven't really heard anything on this. I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: When you put out the Rebirth of Marvin, I thought
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  Speaker 4: you was a bug.
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  Speaker 1: I know I saw it.
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  Speaker 4: I saw it because I felt like you was putting
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  Speaker 4: too much pressure on yourself, because when you compare yourself
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  Speaker 4: the mythical kind and the ghosts like Marvin, that's an
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  Speaker 4: impossible bar to reach. So what was your mindset? I
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  Speaker 4: know you put that up.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't that album was not supposed to come out.
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  Speaker 1: That album was that. I wasn't trying to be Marvin,
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  Speaker 1: not trying to fill his shoes. I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 1: do any of that. That's not what I was trying
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  Speaker 1: to do. Like I said, I'm a multi genre artists.
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  Speaker 4: I just go off of vibes.
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  Speaker 1: So if I'm feeling oh today, I'm gonna do pop today,
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  Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go in the studio, probably knock out
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  Speaker 1: a whole pop album real quick, and I'm gonna ahead
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  Speaker 1: and set the side because that's what I'm feeling. So
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  Speaker 1: I go off of feeling, you know, feeling the music
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  Speaker 1: and what I'm you know, what I'm feeling at that time.
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  Speaker 1: So I was in the studio and if you've been
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  Speaker 1: to snoops compound, he plays music twenty four hours a day,
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  Speaker 1: seven days a week through the hallways. And at that
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  Speaker 1: time I was in the studio just going through stuff
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  Speaker 1: and trying to figure out what track I was gonna
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  Speaker 1: do next, and uh, Marvin played like three four times,
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  Speaker 1: so then instantly in my head, I'm already in that zone.
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, cool. Then Snoop sent over
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  Speaker 1: a track and I was like, oh, this is dope.
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  Speaker 1: And then I started doing it and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds a little bit Marvin, but I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 1: keep doing it.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Liked it so much, so I was like, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: do another track, and then Snoop came in and was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: this is really dope. Let me know when you know
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  Speaker 1: finished with it, because he knows I like to work
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  Speaker 1: and like, I like to work in spurts, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't do just one track and go to next. Like
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, if I've done too, I might as
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  Speaker 1: well do eight more and make it an album. And
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  Speaker 1: I just put it up a bunch of records, just
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  Speaker 1: put up. I finished the record in like a week.
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  Speaker 1: Rebirth of Marvin was done the week. I pretty much
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  Speaker 1: freestyled the whole thing as far as freestyle, and I
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  Speaker 1: know it's different, but it's like going up to the
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  Speaker 1: mic and just kind of saying what I feel. Did
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  Speaker 1: that Like Back to Your Place was done in an hour.
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  Speaker 1: My Holland Drive was done the hour. Both of those
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  Speaker 1: went number one. So that's how I do all of
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  Speaker 1: my music. So I put it away. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, that was fun. I was in that Marvin
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  Speaker 1: Lane Gray, let me put aside. Now let me get
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  Speaker 1: on this Brice and Tiller lane real quick, because that's
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  Speaker 1: what I wanted to put out. That's what I thought
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  Speaker 1: Dog wanted me to do, and that's not what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Dog came in and it was like, what you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm just putting it up. I'm gonna
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: start on this. He was like no, no, no, no, no,
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: no no, we're putting this out like no, nobody want
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: to hear Old School right now. It's like, trust me,
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: this is the lane is open, nobody's doing it right now.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: Let's just do it all right. Cool, but it sounds
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit like Marvin. It's like, no, I don't
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: worry about that. I'm like, they're gonna chew me. They're
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: gonna chew my ass up. So you know, we started
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: sitting with the album back to Your we put it out.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: We didn't even pick a single. We let the audience pick.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: They picked back to Your Place. They picked mahaland drive.
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: You know many girls that I know that love back
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: to You for real?
• 12:29
  Speaker 5: Yes, that song is I didn't even I forget what
• 12:32
  Speaker 5: I was playing, but I think it might have been
• 12:34
  Speaker 5: made me on Instagram. But that song. I was like,
• 12:36
  Speaker 5: what is this song? I was telling Envy that like
• 12:38
  Speaker 5: that is how I found you because of the song.
• 12:40
  Speaker 5: I didn't know who you were. And then I heard
• 12:41
  Speaker 5: the song and I was like, who is october Line?
• 12:43
  Speaker 5: I started googling. I'm like death Row like it just.
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: All of it.
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it made me I was so interested. I'm like, Okay,
• 12:50
  Speaker 5: if death Row is going to go for this type
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: of sonic sound, he has to be talented. So it
• 12:54
  Speaker 5: made me want to listen to more cause it just
• 12:56
  Speaker 5: was completely different than what I thought it would be.
• 12:58
  Speaker 5: But I know that, like some people did have things
• 13:00
  Speaker 5: to say, but a lot of people love the music
• 13:02
  Speaker 5: because it sounds good. But I know that Zola gret
• 13:06
  Speaker 5: Ziola Gay, who was Marvin Gay's sister, she had made
• 13:08
  Speaker 5: some comments that she liked the music, but she did
• 13:11
  Speaker 5: say that she was just confused why you would want
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: to sound like another person and not do original songs?
• 13:15
  Speaker 5: Like what do you get out of it? Did you
• 13:16
  Speaker 5: get to have a conversation with her.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: Family or yeah? I did? You know she was when
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: she was mad as hell at me, which I knew
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: that was going to happen. And I was like, you know,
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: and Dog wanted the name it Rebirth of Marvin. I
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: did not. I was like, let's just call it the rebirth.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: I tried to push towards that, but you know, I'm following.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: You know, at this point, I'm like, okay, all right,
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: you know, Dog has a plan. I'm just gonna go
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: with it. He's been right this whole time. I've been
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: with him for a long time, I know him. Let's
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: just do that, and we called it Rebirth and Marvin
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: because that's what he wanted to Tyler. And then yeah,
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: she was not happy about that because she was like, yeah,
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: you can sing, that's great, but you sound like my
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: brother a little bit and it's freaking me out. And
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's cool. I just wish she at
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: that point she didn't go, you know, on wax and
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: say also stuff that, yeah, and just I wish he
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: just would have called me or called dog or somebody
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: like that, because then people got on her that love
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: my music, that loved back to your place, So then
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: they attacked her, and I'm like, we have to stop this.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: But then, you know, we end up getting on a
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: call together, me and a few of the other family
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: members and they were like, we completely support you. We
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: understand now that you're not trying to be Marvin. You
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: don't even want to fill his shoes or anything like that.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: You were just in a vibe and I was like,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: that's what I've been trying to tell everyone, Like, that's
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: not me. I was just feeling something.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: For people that never heard you, right, because we introduced
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: you to some people that might not never heard you listening.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: Some people might think that you are a mimicking artist,
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: right because you just said I was in a Marvin
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: zone and then I was in a Brison zone.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So even on the new album, it's like old
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: sounds like Kelly a little bit announcement.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: So who is our toolber London? And where what does
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: the sound come from? Because when I when I first heard,
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: I thought it was like, well, that's his voice. He
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: can't change his voice. It sounds like Marvin. He sounds
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: like Marvin. But who is our toober London?
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: Then?
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, October one is okay. So this new album, Overnights,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: it's more of a transitional album. It's getting out of
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: that lane. I'm finally being like, okay, guys, let's get
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: away from this. When it's when you start the album,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: you know you have you have touch on Me and
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: all those records like that, and then yeah, like you said,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: R Kelly's been you know, my top number one artist
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: because I mean the writing style, I mean, come on,
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: it's Kels. Then once you get towards the end of
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: the album where you have the big record called time,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: that's me. You know what I'm saying, like those records,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: that's me like enjoying myself. And then the third album
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: obviously when I whenever I do that, then you're gonna
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: get all of me. But right now, it's just kind
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: of showing people that I can do these waves and
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: I know that we're missing this sound. I'm not necessarily
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: taken from everybody. I just have been listening to everybody
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: so much like Kels and Ronald Ezy and all that.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I just take this a little bit, put it here,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: but I don't really take from them. I'm just taking
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: that vibe to give you that vibe, give you that
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: love and that pain, and that that you know what
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: you feel, what we've been feeling for years.
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: So this is a transition project.
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: I still feel like sonically production kind of sounds cohesive.
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: Do you have like a built in team that you
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: worked with or did you decide to work with new
• 16:09
  Speaker 6: people for this project?
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I mean usually usually, and Snoop will tell you usually,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: I do everything myself, like I I write, I produce,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: I mix, I master, I engineer myself because I'm like
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I gotta get it done right now, Like I feel
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: something I need to get done. I don't want to
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: sit here and be like, oh, hey, engineer, what's up.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: I can be there at four o'clock. No, no, no, no,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: I gotta feel this now. So I learned to do
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: all this stuff on my own, so I do on
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: this album on October nights. I teamed up with producers
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: like Jeff Giddy poo Bear. I got with Babyface, you know,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: obviously Snoop executive produced the album as well, and I
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: got with my my homie Superfly.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: Also everybody knows Superfly, so.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, legend in the game, so he came through put
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: his spin on it as well, and it came out
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: really It came out really well because we had kind
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: of went through a thing where I submitted, like this album,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: You're like, all right, let's change this, let's put horns here,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: let's do this, and it just turned.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Out so beautiful.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: I would love to know what the Babyfath sessions were like,
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: because I know Baby Faith, he didn't want you to
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: come in on nothing except for you. I'm sure what
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: was that energy? Like?
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: It was good energy.
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: We pulled up, he was just ready to get down
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: to business. Like immediately there was no, oh, let's kick
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: it in chill, let's eat, let's have a little breakfast
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: and all. He was just like, are you ready. I'm like, yeah,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: let's go in there. And we did the session. We
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: knocked it out. It didn't even take all day. Really,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: he went to writing it. I just let him do
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: his thing, because you know, you're in front of a legend.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be like, well, I do this,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and I'm not about to do it. I'm about to
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: sit here and what you need me to do give
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: me a lot of coaching, like yeah, I mean yeah,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: he did. Man in the lab. We actually, yeah, it
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: was a lot. I'm not gonna okay, I can't. I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: can't hold you. It was a lot. And he knows
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: it was a lot because I was like, oh, it
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: was funny because we were doing the takes. He was like, oh, okay,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: let's do this first take of this and I do
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the line. I was re card, let's do it again.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: The line.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that second one's perfect. We're good. That's
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: what I want to say. We're good.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Let's go.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the next sign. He's like, nah, let's
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: do it again and again. I'm like, okay, all right, okay, cool, I.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: Will do it.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: And he's like, all right, cool, now you're ready to
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: really do it. I'm like, I thought we're.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Just doing it.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I thought that was it. He was like, oh no,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I wasn't recording at all. I was just making sure
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: you were on top of it.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: I thought the classes get made though.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, cool. So see, and that's I'm not
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: used to that. I'm used to, like I said, back
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: to your place one take boom. The first sign, it
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: was just boom, boom, boom. I just make it quickly.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: And even when I told him that, he was like, yeah, no, impossible, Like, no,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: that's how I do my record. So he was like, oh,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: so I'm really at this point, you know, like putting
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: you through it. I was like, yeah, but it's cool, man,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: it's all good. I'm ready to learn.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: It's all good. Did you ever think in your life
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: did you probably signed the Ovial or did you ever
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: want to sign an Ovial? Yeah?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I did absolutely. I'm a fan of Drake, so yeah,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I definitely wanted to. I remember having conversations with Snoop like, hey,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: you know who he should go to? Man, I should
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: do some records. Wan let me go over and go
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: to Drake. He's like, yeah, yeah, no, for sure, Yeah,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I'll call him all right cool? And then I wait
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and Kendrick all that up? Man, Kendrick, that's a whole
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: other thing. Yeah, but I like them both.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Why did you ask that?
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: October?
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So I wanted to be that, you know, I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, October birthdays ten seventeen, this would be
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: perfect fit.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: But or Gucci.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Gucci is ten seven. Yeah, yeah that's right, that's right.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: But Snoop is a great, great fit.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I just love, I really love. I'm actually a happy artist.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Like I talked to so many artists that are just
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: so unhappy and depressed, and you know, it's like they
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: have people over their shoulders all the time, and that's
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: not what happens at death throw Snoopers Like, hey, how
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: are you feeling this week? I'm feeling like a pop record?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: All right, cool, call me when it's done. That's it.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: There's no stress about it. There's no ah, we shouldn't
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: do that, Let's do it.
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: Being someone who has done it all for so long,
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: Like for yourself, what was the transition like having to
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: take the lead of like other people with your vision?
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Tough, very because I've just been, like you said, I've
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: been doing this for so long, learning, doing this engineering thing,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: doing the mixing, doing all this stuff, and I'm just like, Okay,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: I can get this done. Because I look at a
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: lot of artists it's like, oh yeah, I really want
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Shade to drop another album. It's like, oh, eight years later,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I don't like it doesn't in my head because I
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: just taught myself. In my head, I'm like, it'll take
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: that much. So and now look at other arts too,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, you got all the resources, you
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: have everybody's number in your phone. Why isn't your album
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: getting done quicker? Like why aren't you? Maybe they're not
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: in the zone. Maybe they're getting pressured.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I just like I said, I'm a happy artist, so
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not pressured by anything. I'm financially stable, like I'm good.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: So I can go in the studio right now and
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: be like, okay, cool, you need all right, I'll work
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: on the third album right now, or I work on
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: a country record, I work on a pot whatever. Because
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: he that's what helps me make great R and B
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: is by switching genres, taking a break because I don't
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: want to. I don't want to be Marvin. So let
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: me not get too heavy in that back. Let me
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: go over here to country real quick and write this
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: real quick and just take a break and then go
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: over here to something else.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I was tour with Maxwell and Jazmine Sullivan.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Amazing, amazing, two great artists. Me and Max World close. Man,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: He's just a really great dude, Like he's been making
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: sure everybody's taking care of and just been amazing. The
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: crowd is just absolutely just I like, I'm in awe
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: of they saying word for word even my stuff, you know,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: and me opening up for them like I did my
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: first tour in January, which sold out majority of the tour,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and they were singing it. Then I was like, I
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna do it this time. They're
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: doing it this time as well. That you said even
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: my stuff, Yeah no, because I just in my head,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just still this dude in Soubin, Indiana that's trying
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to make it. I'm still like I'm going to the
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: studio just trying to Oh man, I really hope they
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: like it. I still have that So the slighting poster syndrome, Yeah,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm like, man, there's there's no way.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna like this. I don't think
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: snoops heard me say. I don't think they're gonna like
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: this one hundred times over. I did not think they're
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: gonna like Rebirth of Marvin. I don't think they're going
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: to go back.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: To your place.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: What I was like, No, there's no way. I was like,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: this ain't this ain't hot right now, and they love it,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, So that's why I like letting
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: the people decide for you.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Let the real quick, you let the You were kind
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: of letting the trends of R and B guide you
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: as opposed to what traditional R and B is, because
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: you make to me traditional R and B. But you thought,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: because of the way people make R and B now,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: they don't want to hear this tradition exactly.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was thinking.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: You wanted to redo bitches ain't ship but holding tricks
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: R and B? Right, you know? Yeah?
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Actually yeah, I think that was gone. I send you,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you something broke through.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: Like when I heard it, I was like, who is
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: I thought you honestly I thought you were like an
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: older guy, like somebody. I really was so surprised. I
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: was like, what is this song? And then I just
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: kept hearing it. So to hear that you didn't even
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: think that we were gonna like it, I'm like, that
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: is insane. I'm so happy that you didn't get in
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: your own way.
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, definitely would like to add that. I
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: went to that show at Barclay's. The mic was on,
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: and that was really impressive too, because a lot of
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: people vocally live don't hit like the actual record.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, now the mics were on. Man Max is on,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Japan's ownline is on, and I make sure I let
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: people know like I'm not I'm not an auto tuned artist.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I had my face when T Pain came out. I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: was everything. I have a list of albums in my heart,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: drop everything, so TA Pain it's ridiculous, you know what
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I was like, oh, this is it, Boom,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this, you know, I'm gonna get on
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: like doing this, and that time where like ten times
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: over like oh okay, nope, that didn't work out. Oh
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I got this meeting with nevermind that didn't work out.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: So this is really random, but speaking of like trying
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: to like things not working out, you were on Empire.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I was on Empire.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you were so you did. I've read
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: about it. You were doing really well. They were talking
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: about making you a bigger character Empire.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and all the Jesse, the Jesse smallest stuff happened.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: That we didn't know about. When you walk in, I'm like,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: I know. He was pissed that one is so perfect
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: for you.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Come home man, No, I mean yeah, I thought it was.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: That was my first time doing any type of acting.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Snoop was like, y'all, I'm gonna we're gonna add you
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: to Empire.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Like, no, I can't act.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: He was like, yeah you can't. No, I can't, man,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: that's not my lane. I'm just come on man. And
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I went on, come on, man, and I went on
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: there and and did it. And the director was like,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: how long you've been acting?
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I was like today.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: He was like, I think we should sit down and talk.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, this is the thing. I still think
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I'm dreaming. So I'm like, there's no way even being
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: on here to breakfast. I've been watching y'all for a
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: long time. It's like like, just as I was sitting
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: in the background, I was just like, damn, this is
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: really happening. So that's how I kind of felt on Empire.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: So then when Jesse mess it up for me, as soon.
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: As I as soon as I turned on the news,
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: I'm like sh I was like, come on, come on, Maine,
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: come on, Maine.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Don't do me like that, skinny.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: It's interesting, right because these are the type of stories
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: when you really really take off, everybody's be like, damn,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: this guy came out of know it. But you've been
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: with Snoopsince.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Just doing background stuff, like doing you know, when I
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: first got with him, he was like, Yo, I'm about
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: to go on tour. Once you come on tour with me.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: So me doing a small crowd, it didn't start off
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: that way. It started off with fifty people. So now
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: when I'm doing this just been at Max. Max is
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: like you're really comfortable and says I'm like yeah, I'm like,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: small crowds make me anxious. Really small crowds. If I'm
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: in a crowd of like a hundred, I'm like I
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: can hear everybody's thoughts like that, nigg ain't hitting a
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: note like that, and you know, like he sound a
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: little dry today, you know, So doing that kind of
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: just molded me to be a better performer. So doing
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: that and then now coming on this tour where it's
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you know, tens twenty thousand people, it just feels feels
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: normal to me. And being with Snoops in twenty sixteen,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I've just been doing that, been touring with him several
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: times overseas everything and just doing like the all the
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: stuff with him and Martha Stewart, Like I did the
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: song for the Him and Mont Stewart show, the Cooking
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: with Mark, you know, and I did that record, and
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: then all his albums from twenty sixteen I've been on.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I've been doing backgrounds or I've been doing hooks. So
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I've just been chilling and really caking up.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Is October London. Trust his own talent, not not not
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: his ability to I guess sound like others, but do
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: you trust your own Absolutely.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I've been doing it for a while, so I know
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: exactly what I can do. I have so much stuff
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: in the hard drive that I can't wait to drop,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Like it makes me anxious. Even being on the bus
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: this whole tour, I'm just listening to the records, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: everybody gets together and we listen to all the records
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: and we're just like, yo, this is really just the
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: starting point, Like they have no idea what's to come?
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: You know? Can we play a record with.
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I know you're involved on the
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: Doggie Land for kids.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, talk to me.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: About what do you exactly do you do?
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, no, I've been what I'm saying. So,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: you know, Snep's been looking out for a long time.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Snoop came in the studio one day or one night
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and was like, hey, what do you think about doing
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: a kids record? And I was like, yeah, that's fine,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: whatever I can do that. I made one kids record.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: He came back in the studio, let me hear what
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: you got played it. He was like, Joe, can you
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: do anohing like that? I was like, yeah, of course.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: This time I called my son on FaceTime. My son's
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: seven h and I was like, hey, I need you
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: to add some vocals to this, you know. He was
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: like okay, Dad.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: And this time we did a record called brush Brush.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: So we ended up doing that and Snoop came in.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: He was like, who is the kid. I was like,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: it's my son, said nephew. He was like, oh, like, okay, cool,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: I think we should do an album. All right, cool,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: give me till tomorrow because I'm quick.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like me tomorrow.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Album.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Color when we came out in twenty sixteen. We
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: came out when I uh Me and Snoop came out
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: with Color Blind. I did eighteen songs in two or
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: three days. I got myself sick, and he was like,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: all right, you need to go back to the hotel.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Like because I was like, no, one shot, you get
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: one shot, and that was my one shot. I'm knocking
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: out eight to this, so I'm very I knock him
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: out really quick. So he was like okay, cool. So
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I knocked out the album and then he called Claude
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Brooks and he was like, yo, I got an idea
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: for a show. Let's call it Doggie Lanb. And now
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm the co creator of Doggy Lanb. I am
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: the voice of Woofie and I do the music.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: That's dope.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't see this type of artist development. The
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: more you don't see people just like working with an
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: artist every step of the way, you know.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And then most artists went it right away.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Remember he been saying to twenty sixteen, most arts would
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: left the twenty seventeen it was like, I ain't popping yet.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I'm gone, Yeah, you've seen the vision.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, I saw the vision. But Snooper tell you
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I gave him a hard time too. Yeah, absolutely, I
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: mean yeah, I get you.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: The artist popping was like, yo, that could have been
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: that should have been me, Bryceon Tailler.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say Bryceon Taller. Brightcetilla came out of nowhere
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: to me, and I was like, oh, this is dope.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: I'm actually a fan of Bryson Teler. I don't know
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: what artists came up. I know one artist that made
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: me actually kind of pissed me off, to be honest,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: and that was and that and I'll tell you the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: story why. So it's two thousand and four, who was popping?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Who just came out with just gotta make it.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: He's got to make trace.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Ye all day.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: He got the braids, I got the braids. Light skinned.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I'm light skinned. And my boy Travis looked at me
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: and was like, damn, you don't let this nigga eat
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you up like that. And he just walked away, and
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: ever since then, I've just Paul definitely a pause pause moment.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Sorry, he should have paused the back door before with
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: the key, but keep going.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Ye missed it, but ahead he missed it.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: So so at that point I was like, okay, cool.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: It made me competitive. So I'm super super competitive. Like
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I've been on I'm not gonna say the artists, but
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I've been on different shows where you know, it's several
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: artists on this show and they'll do certain things, and
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I'll go in the back room and I'll put on
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's last dance and I'll sit there for about
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: a good thirty forty minutes watch that, and I'll go
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: out there and compete. Yep, everything's a competition. Dark Snoop
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: will consistently like, it's not a competition, man, you don't
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: have to be like, you know, I be so hard.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, nah, you see the high note he did? No, No,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I can't let him live.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I love that, though.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: How exhausting was it working with tyres You.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Know, Tyrese is a is a great friend of mine.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: He's a great guy. He's a great guy, great existent
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: He just he's passionate. He's just a passionate person. He
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: puts he literally wears his heart on his sleeve and
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: you gotta give it to him.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: Sure, but how exhausting was it working in the studio
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: we all know him, like, like I just want to know,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: like Bedroom Bully, how long did it take y'all to
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: make that record? That didn't take a day?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Not with him, I don't know how long it took him.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: You know how long it took me. So he sent
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: he sent the record to me and was like, I
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: got this record. He called me, So, I got this record.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I think you'd be great on it. It's very secret Garden.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, bad, just just send it. I
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: was in the lab already sent the beat and I
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: was like, yo, this is dope. And he had a
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: little bit of his vocals on it, and I was like, okay, cool.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: So really I wanted him to do his vocals first
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: because the competitive part. And then I was like, no,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I don't worry, Abu. You know it's Tyree's I ain't tripping,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: you know, we brothers. I went in and put my
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: part on there, then he put his part on there,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: and that was it. But it took me, you know,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: thirty minutes knocked that out. I don't know how long
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: it took him to get his knocked out, but for me,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: it was it was nothing but bedroom billy is. And
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: that's on the album too, it's on his AMMI.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: When you do a song like that, do you feel
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: pressure always deliver to a woman sexually?
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Absolutely? Absolutely? I love cars and women period.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: Did you guys make this record before after you almost
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: burned his house down?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: That's just what I was after.
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: This was after the person that almost burnt his house
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: down to sitting right behind.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: No, yeah, this was the house in l a uh No.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Atlanta, Atlanta's Atlanta. What happened, Bernard Hooka.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: That's the only way you burned the house down?
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: Now with.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: A right, because you know, we were listening to some
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: music and we're all, you know, drinking, except for Tyres
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: because Tyres don't drink, and uh my boy Jamie was
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: listening to the music. He got hyped up and he
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: was just like, whoa, you know this that just the
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: records gonna be crazy. And he got up and he
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: knocked it over and nobody noticed that first, and I turned,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I looked and I was like I saw security moving
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: really fast. One of the security guys moving really fast.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: He started patting on the floor and I'm like, what
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: the hell is he doing? Stinky leg or something, don't
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: know what the hell he's doing. I was just like, okay, cool, alright.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I guess he's feeling the record. And I look, I'm like, oh,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: oh oh the rugs on fire, his vultron rugs on fire.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh nice. So he's trying to put
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: that out, grabbing the coals off the thing and all that,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and Jamie felt bad and Tyrese gives him give him
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: ship every time.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: What flavor was the hookah, damn it.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't know. It might have
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: been like mango buried cream or something.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: And that yard almost brun that house down, lingo buried.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Oh right, that is not a good way to go out.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: So you know, every every time tyree sees Jamie's like,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: he can't come in my house, he can't come out.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: So yeah, he be a carver, but you know he
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: lets them in anyway, so it's good.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Not a song. Time Did you have wedding song in
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: mind when you wrote that?
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Absolutely? Absolutely?
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: So?
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Time actually is we are in twenty twenty four, so
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: that was done in eight. So what do we It's fifteen, fifteen,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: sixteen years in the game. It's been sitting in my
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: hard drive for fifteen sixteen years. So that's an old song,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: old song that me and my one of my best friends,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Mike Letter out of Miami, we did that record, and yeah,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I played it for a dog. I think I played
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: it maybe four or five six times, and he remembers
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: and then doesn't remember, but he remembered. At this time,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, we should put this on the album.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: And I loved it because I've been waiting to put
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: that album out because it's just a beautiful ballad.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: We didn't do nothing to it, you just that's how
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: it was.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Record remixed, Yeah, yeah, remix, and we added, uh, we
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: added some organ to it. Superfly came in and added
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: like little little little things to you know, a little splashes.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: But other than that same record when you wrote.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: That, in a way, what was your mind? That was
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: there somebody you wanted to marry or somebody you wanted.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Nah, I was a I was a sap man back
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: in eight, so I was doing everything I possibly could
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: to you know, I was doing I was doing the most.
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: I was sad, but ain't nothing wrong, like like a
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: kind of like you know, I was sucker.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, what's wrong with that? Nothing
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: wrong with it?
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: But you know you would tell a woman stuff like that.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I want to spend the rest of my life.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I had poems and ship nothing's wrong
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: with it.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: You was texting the poems or you were like mail them.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: I feel like you would mail them.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I was, I was, I was.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: I'm just asking.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Depending how old you are after era we come from,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: We come from that. You know you go with me? Yes? No,
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: maybe I just want.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: To know because we always on line like we missed that,
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: like the begging, beg love you, we love you. You
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: was doing it and you guys about that back then.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: For some reason, I can't write a single poem.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Now, just a bouyt.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: What happened, no happening.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I got my heart broke and then got my heart
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: broken again.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: I didn't mean to last.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: It's all right, you're just laughing pain.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: Nobody waited to hear that because that injecting project.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Have been.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: In the White Man.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: No, she's like white man. O. B.
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: Travis Travis Caleb, but your life, so she's willing to
• 36:43
  Speaker 8: meet in the middle. Nice, that's but went to Delaware
• 36:46
  Speaker 8: State hpc mm.
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: Hmm, all right, what you got more question? The sadness
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: makes for great music. I mean I was trying to say, even.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: The record of Eternity that got on the Color Purple soundtrack,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: that was a fifteen, sixteen year old record. I did
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Eternity right after me and Mike did Eternity right after Time.
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: So Third Shift was a fresh, freshly done record.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: I saw you just preview that?
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, was that the bridge or the hook that she
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: was playing? Who was in there conducting this?
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: What for the whole record for thift?
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I went to Jeff Giddy and Jeff was like, Yo,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: you want to record it here? I was like no,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I'm going home. And I flew back home to the
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: South Wind. I recorded there and then sent it to
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Dog and Dog was like, Yo, this is something fresh,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: it's something new. And then went back to Jeff Giddy
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and got another track, which is kill Shot. So Kill
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Shot and Third Shift was produced by Jeff Giddy.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: South Ben.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'm not if I leave, it's not gonna be anywhere.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to LA.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to New York.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Miami is my weak spot.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: That's my weak spot. Is it good because he probably
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: you probably get grounded when you go home. Yeah.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'll get to be around family, friends, like people
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: on tour of me, like they're my day ones. Like
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I don't. I feel like I might lose myself if
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I go and move somewhere where I have to be
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: seen all the time and red carpet all the time,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: and I feel I just feel like I'm gonna lose myself.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: So I go back home. I can come to New York,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: come kick it for the weekend, come see y'all, and
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: then I'm back home. I'm right back home because my
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: son is there, goes to a great school there, and
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I just, you know, I like being with my son,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: like chilling being at home, and if I need anything
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: or something goes wrong, I'm right there where I need
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: to be, so, you know, to.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Find a question, how does your mom feel about Mama?
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: She loved it.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: She loves it because we played it in the studio
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: for a bunch of people not too long ago. I
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: think that was maybe last month or something like that,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: or maybe soon. I don't know time is flying by,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: but we played it and she gets teary eyed every time.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: And one of the people that were in the studio
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: she's like, oh my God, like I love mama so much.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: It's just does your mom know that you know you
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: made this record. I was like, she's sitting right behind
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: you and she's, oh, you know, so, yeah, the mama.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I really cannot wait to put that record out. I
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: cannot wait because I love the record a lot. And
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I actually did that when Snoop's mom passed.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: Wow, So when the Snoop mom passed with inspiration for
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: you to rate that exactly.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: So when Snoop, Yeah, the day after Snoop's mom passed,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: he was in the studio and I was just like,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I got my boy. I got him and I went
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: in there and I just did it. And then I
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I want you to hear something, and
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I played.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: It for him and he just, you know, broke down.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: And it made you appreciate your mom.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Still absolutely, absolutely absolutely, So you know, I just think
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: it's a great record. I can't wait to drop it.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: And that's one of the reasons you probably don't want
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: to leave out.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Ben Ever, I don't know, I just feel comfortable there people,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: you know, like everybody knows me, I know them. Nobody
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: really messes with me there, you know, nobody's messed up
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: any of my cars yet, so that's great. So I'm
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: pretty good. I'm happy there, you know, as of right now.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: And it's really cheap to live.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: That's the cost of living. To the boy.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Cost of living is very important. So you know, you
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: go do all this and then just go back home
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and chill.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Come on, you know, but what you want to hear,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: dal what you want to hear?
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Well, she brought up third shift, third shift, so might
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: as well play third shift, all right.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Well, October Nights comes out this Friday, and we appreciate
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: you for joining us. You thank you, appreciate it, and
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: let's get into it. It's October London. It's the Breakfast Club.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Good morning, wake that ass up in the morning.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club