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Mega Edition: Todd Blanche And The Still Unexplained Chat With Ghislaine Maxwell (Part 7-9) (7/19/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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Speaker 1: where we left off with a bullshit ass transcript from
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Speaker 1: Glen Maxwell and the DOJ Todd Blanche. Okay, So let's
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Speaker 1: I want to stay and coming back now to what
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Speaker 1: we were talking about a moment ago with mister Epstein's
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Speaker 1: kind of progression or getting worse. So just staying within
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Speaker 1: the nineties, what role, what role did you have or
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Speaker 1: what did you observe which are two different issues but
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Speaker 1: both important with respect to recruiting messuses to come to
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Speaker 1: either I guess Palm Beach or to travel or eventually
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Speaker 1: New Mexico. What role do you have in that? Maxwell?
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Speaker 1: He asked me to find massuses for him. Blanche, say
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Speaker 1: it again, Maxwell, He asked me if I could find
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Speaker 1: massuses for him. Blanche, okay, like part of like said
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Speaker 1: you were his general manager as part of your duties,
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Speaker 1: that was one of them, Maxwell, and I did do that.
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Speaker 1: So the first person I believe that I introduced him
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Speaker 1: to was a missus somebody called redacted. She was I
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Speaker 1: don't know, mid late twenties professional messuse Blanche. And was
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Speaker 1: this something that happened early on in your relationship or again,
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Speaker 1: I know we're talking about the nineties, or are we
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Speaker 1: talking about early nineties or is this later on? Maxwells So,
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Speaker 1: in terms of massage, I have a lot of injuries.
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Speaker 1: I do a lot of dangerous sports, and I've had
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Speaker 1: multiple serious accidents and walk without any lameness because of
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Speaker 1: physical therapy and massages. That to me is a very
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Speaker 1: it's medicinal for me. So Epstein, whatever his massage situation, whatever,
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Speaker 1: he loved massage. And if I met somebody who I
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Speaker 1: thought was a good masseuse or a massaur, I introduced
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Speaker 1: them and he became because I got them. And he
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Speaker 1: asked me if I did that, and I said, yes,
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that. Well I don't remember ninety three,
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Speaker 1: ninety two from the beginning, Blanche, So go ahead. So
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Speaker 1: then what happens over the next you know, like there's
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Speaker 1: been there's been a ton of writing and a ton
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Speaker 1: of I guess testimony as well, but also public reporting
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Speaker 1: about how the recruiting was a very aggressive effort that
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Speaker 1: you were a part of, that he was part of
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Speaker 1: and others to try and find more and more messuses.
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Speaker 1: What is that? Is that true? What role did you
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Speaker 1: play in that, Maxwell, Well, that's partially true, okay, Maxwell,
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Speaker 1: So it's true that I found massuses and he became
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Speaker 1: more insistent. He liked new all the time he got bored,
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Speaker 1: so he'd be bored with the massus and he would say,
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Speaker 1: find me a new massuse. I'm the entire opposite. If
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Speaker 1: I find someone that I like, I stay with them.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want new. He would drive for new.
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Speaker 1: So that's true. And in my effort to find them,
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Speaker 1: I would go to massage spas, like legitimate spas, not
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Speaker 1: we're talking you know, funky ones that people have. So
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Speaker 1: if I got a massage from somebody in a spa
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Speaker 1: I liked, I asked them if they would do home visits.
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Speaker 1: If they said yes, I would ask him to come
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Speaker 1: to the house and he would see if he liked
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Speaker 1: them or not. But these were people who worked in spas.
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Speaker 1: I never ever checked their age, and I never checked
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Speaker 1: their credentials. I never asked for a certificate, Blanche what Marcus.
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Speaker 1: But just to be clear, you never thought anybody was
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Speaker 1: under eighteen, Maxwell, I never know. That was never. That
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Speaker 1: was never my drive. What are you in prison for?
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Speaker 1: Right now? You stupid ass. Who's this fucking Skuffouza and
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Speaker 1: the scumbag Marcus trying to rewrite this story. It's not
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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Keep in mind that gland Maxwell used to
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Speaker 1: talk about going out and finding new biles for Jeffrey Epstein.
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Speaker 1: Keep that in mind. Maxwell, I never that was never.
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Speaker 1: That was never my drive. Blanche. What did you know
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Speaker 1: at the time about him, mister Epstein requiring messuses to
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Speaker 1: be naked, or requiring messuses to either perform sexual favors
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Speaker 1: for mister Ebstein, or that to be there if mister
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Speaker 1: Epstein masturbated, or things like that. And again, I'm asking
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Speaker 1: you about fifteen year period or whatever, ten year period,
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Speaker 1: so I appreciate it's a very broad question. Is this
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Speaker 1: guy for real? Why don't you just go give Glenn
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Speaker 1: Maxwell a nice hug and slipper some tongue, you fucking goof.
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Speaker 1: So answer it in a way that you, you know,
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Speaker 1: addresses what you've been charged with doing, but also what's
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Speaker 1: been said about you, not charged, convicted, You fuck an asshole?
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Speaker 1: Holy shit, is this what the Trump administration thinks about justice?
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Speaker 1: What a joke? Bro? How can anyone sit here and
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Speaker 1: read this and not be offended. Maxwell, Okay, So I
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Speaker 1: don't the nineties. I don't think that I ever thought
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Speaker 1: that would never cross my mind. I'm not sure that
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Speaker 1: I thought about that in those contexts at all until
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Speaker 1: it's arrest and those papers came out. But I believe
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Speaker 1: the subject of the question that you're asking me, I
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Speaker 1: believe started in the two thousands, Blanche, in the two
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Speaker 1: thousand time period. Maxwell, Yeah, two thousand, Blanche. Why do
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Speaker 1: you think two thousand, Blanche? Like? What what in your
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Speaker 1: mind makes you think that there's a time that it started. Maxwell,
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Speaker 1: I think because in December of two thousand and one
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Speaker 1: he met redacted, and I think redacted was responsible for
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Speaker 1: that in its entirety. And the reason I believe that
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Speaker 1: so this she was a self confess to having been
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Speaker 1: sexually abused as a young girl and was trained her
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Speaker 1: words I'm quoting now, not mine, in all arts or whatever,
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Speaker 1: that is the sex program by a man called Ron Eppinger,
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Speaker 1: who was her pimp from when she was fourteen I believe,
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Speaker 1: or fifteen, I don't know, and in her book describes
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Speaker 1: him training her to be what every man wants in
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Speaker 1: all its manners, fillatio and everything else. I believe that
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Speaker 1: then what happened was that he met her and she
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Speaker 1: came as a messuse to his house in December of
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Speaker 1: two thousand and one, is when I think it started.
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Speaker 1: You think you're the one who brought her there, you
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Speaker 1: fucking disgusting ghoul. Now what their relationship was or what
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Speaker 1: happened with him in that early period of time, I
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Speaker 1: cannot say. What I can say is that he liked
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Speaker 1: her and she started to travel with him, and during
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Speaker 1: that time period, I believe I know then what happened
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Speaker 1: was that she when she first started to see him,
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Speaker 1: or first came into his orbit as his massuse or whatever,
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Speaker 1: she was engaged to be married and wearing an engagement
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Speaker 1: ring and was living with her fiance. She broke up
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Speaker 1: after a few months with her fiance and took up
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Speaker 1: with the local drug dealer. So let's say after four
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Speaker 1: or five months of in the time period when she
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Speaker 1: was seeing Epstein. Let's say we're now May June of
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Speaker 1: two thousand and two or two thousand. I can't remember.
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Speaker 1: From whenever she hints the whatever that is if that's
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Speaker 1: two thousand, I think it's two thousand. I'm sorry, I
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Speaker 1: think it's when she met him December of two thousand.
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Speaker 1: You mean when you brought her there, you fucking disgusting animal.
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Speaker 1: So she's perjuring herself right here. She's lying through her teeth.
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Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna do anything about it. And what they're going
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Speaker 1: to tell you to do is take a bite of
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Speaker 1: that shit sandwich and enjoy it, Blanche. Okay, I'm not
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Speaker 1: holding you to exact day, Maxwell, No, I mean, I'm
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Speaker 1: just trying. I'm giving Blanche. I appreciate it, Maxwell. So
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Speaker 1: then I think, so she takes up with the local
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Speaker 1: drug dealer, and she becomes druggy druggy like you know
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Speaker 1: how druggies, Well maybe you don't. I live with a
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Speaker 1: lot in Tallahassee. They become even more unreliable than normal.
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Speaker 1: And at some point she's now working somewhere else. He
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Speaker 1: stops seeing her because he doesn't like people who do drugs.
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Speaker 1: And I think that not seeing her lasted five or
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Speaker 1: six months, and in that period of time, she got
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Speaker 1: arrested for theft, and she had a warrant out for
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Speaker 1: her arrest. Now this I've pieced together, because this piece
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Speaker 1: I didn't know. She then called Epstein to have help
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Speaker 1: avoiding the warrant for her arrest, and he sent her
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Speaker 1: to Thailand to get a massage therapy license. This is
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Speaker 1: the bit that I guess. This is the bit that
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Speaker 1: I extrapolated. Yo, this is unconscionable. Glenn Maxwell's the lady
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Speaker 1: who walked Virginia into the jaws of the beast and
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Speaker 1: then to sit here and act like she has no
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Speaker 1: idea what's going on, and to be allowed to get
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Speaker 1: away with it, that is fucking unbelievable. And it tells
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Speaker 1: you everything you need to know about the DOJ, Lame Ass,
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Speaker 1: Pam Bondi, Cash, Bitch Ass Bettel, Dan Faker, Bongino, and
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Speaker 1: Donnie Diddles. Tells you everything you need to know about
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Speaker 1: all of them. In the period of time from when
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Speaker 1: she came back to when she left, he asked her
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Speaker 1: to replace herself as his messuse or whatever whatever she
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Speaker 1: was doing, and she brought the first replacement for her
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Speaker 1: that would have been one of the accusers in my case,
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Speaker 1: I think would have been redacted that and then everyone
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Speaker 1: who came subsequent to redacted or simultaneously. If she wasn't
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Speaker 1: the first, I don't know every single person who came
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Speaker 1: to his house came through redacted and her boyfriend Tony
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Speaker 1: and then whoever else underneath her, And that's how it started.
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Speaker 1: Blanche So before her Lea Safian Tony Figueroa, Maxwell, Tony
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Speaker 1: Figueroa is her boyfriend? No mention if Sarah Kellen Vickers though, right?
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Speaker 1: And Yo, the sin in me wants to say that
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Speaker 1: all of this is happening because Virginia is gone. If
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Speaker 1: she wasn't gone, do you think they'd have the courage
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Speaker 1: or the audacity to throw shit on her name like this?
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Speaker 1: Blanche before her? So now, going back in the nineties,
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Speaker 1: you don't believe that mister Epstein was abusing messuses Marcus
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Speaker 1: underage or over age. I mean, I think, well, I'm
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Speaker 1: using abuse in the broad sense of the word because
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that you you said that you have no
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Speaker 1: idea of the year. You always assume that messuses were
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Speaker 1: over age, right Maxwell, I did. So you went and
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Speaker 1: got Virginia Roberts from mar A Lago. Knew she was
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Speaker 1: not of age, and now you're going to make pretend
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Speaker 1: that she was. This is the same shit Maxwell got
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Speaker 1: nailed bit with for perjury during the deposition. But sure,
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Speaker 1: go ahead, bang out, Blanche So when I'm talking about abuse,
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Speaker 1: even talking about an adult messuse who comes in to
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Speaker 1: give a massage and is told to take off their clothes,
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Speaker 1: told they're not going to get paid if they don't
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Speaker 1: take off their clothes. Basic suggested they had to watch
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Speaker 1: a masturbate, like the things that have been publicly said
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Speaker 1: about what he did. Maxwell, I'm not, Blanche. For now,
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Speaker 1: I'm not distinguishing adults or young or underage women. I'm
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Speaker 1: saying abuse. Maxwell. I'm going to think about that, and
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Speaker 1: that would be a habit, Blanche. Okay, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: say that the massage game was a habit, And I think, Marcus,
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Speaker 1: what does that mean? Maxwell? That means that I'm sure
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Speaker 1: that he didn't suddenly start having relationships with messuses in
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Speaker 1: two thousand and two. Okay, So in other words, what
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Speaker 1: she said about Virginia just now throw it out the
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Speaker 1: fucking window. What an absolute clown, Maxwell. I'm sure he
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Speaker 1: must have had relations with messuses. Who knows when, Blanche.
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Speaker 1: But you're saying, as far as you I use the
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Speaker 1: word abuse, you're saying that, as far as you sit
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Speaker 1: here today, you would describe that as more consensual, meaning
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Speaker 1: the massuses did those did those things willingly. Maxwell. I
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Speaker 1: saw him with a lot of messuses. I never saw
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Speaker 1: a single massuse ever look on happy or not come
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Speaker 1: back or whatever. So based on my observation, I don't
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Speaker 1: think that if you're being raped as now he's like
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Speaker 1: this prolific, I just can't imagine why you would return.
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Speaker 1: She's still covering for him, she has no remorse, nothing,
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Speaker 1: but yet she gets hooked up. This is your justice department, folks,
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Speaker 1: this is the people that are gonna blow the doors
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Speaker 1: off transparency. These are the same people that cry about
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Speaker 1: hot dogs and pizza, the same people who told you
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Speaker 1: that motherfuckers were stashed away in basements, the same people
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Speaker 1: that were talking about Wayfair trafficking children in their furniture.
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Speaker 1: But now Glen Maxwell is the arbiter of truth and
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Speaker 1: everybody should just suck it down. Well, I have news
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Speaker 1: for you, and I have news for them. Fuck that,
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Speaker 1: no chance not gonna happen. And in fact, after reading
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Speaker 1: this deposition, I'm one hundred percent convinced that there's a
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Speaker 1: cover up. One hundred percent convinced, Blanche. That's not what
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Speaker 1: you have deserved at the time, Maxwell, not what I
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Speaker 1: observed at the time. No Blanche, We're going to spend
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Speaker 1: a little We're going to spend more time on this
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Speaker 1: issue because I think it's important. But just going back
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Speaker 1: to kind of the question that I started with in
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Speaker 1: this area, which is that it ties into the blackmail issue.
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Speaker 1: So we talked about people that were his clients, and
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Speaker 1: you've mentioned President Clinton and early on. Maxwell, Oh, I
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Speaker 1: never said he was a client. Got to protect your boy, right.
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Speaker 1: I never said he was a client, Blanche. I did
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Speaker 1: not say you said. I'm saying that when you talked
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Speaker 1: about his clients Maxwell, right, Blanche, Yeah, and he puts
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Speaker 1: his clients off the side. Maxwell, okay, Blanche. And then
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Speaker 1: you mentioned some other people. You mentioned President Clinton, Glenn Maxwell. Yes,
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Speaker 1: all right. We're going to wrap up right here, and
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Speaker 1: in the next episode, we're going to pick up where
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Speaker 1: we left off. All of the information that goes with
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Speaker 1: this episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
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Speaker 1: and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In
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Speaker 1: this episode, we're picking up where we left off with
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Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell's transcripts from her interview with the DJ. Blanche
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Speaker 1: and then you mentioned some other people you mentioned President Clinton? Maxwell, Yes, Blanche,
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Speaker 1: you mentioned President Trump early on. Who were other famous politicians,
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Speaker 1: who were other individuals in mister Epstein's life during that
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Speaker 1: time period, So the early nineties, Maxwell, it was the nineties.
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Speaker 1: Let's just should we Blanche cuts her off, Yes, Maxwell, okay,
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Speaker 1: Congressman McMillan, Blanche, say it again, Maxwell McMillan, Blanche, okay, Maxwell,
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Speaker 1: Henry Rossowsky, who was the provost of Harvard hang on indiscernible, Blanche,
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Speaker 1: Sure you're looking at your your notes, Maxwell, Yes, Blanche,
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Speaker 1: go ahead. Maxwell, Joe Pagano, Jerry Goldsmith, Joe Roberts, Kenny Lipp,
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Speaker 1: Dan Abramson. I don't know if in the nineties Tom Pritzker, Ace,
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Kine, Lou Raynieri. I mean there were And let's
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Speaker 1: go back to Tom Pritzker for a minute. He was
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Speaker 1: accused of sexual assault by Virginia Roberts. So when you
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Speaker 1: have this other Pritzker clown in Illinois up here talking nonsense,
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Speaker 1: keep that in mind, Todd, Blanche, what about the royal family? Maxwell, No,
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Speaker 1: he didn't know them in the nineties, Blanche. What about
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Speaker 1: Prince Andrew. Maxwell didn't know him in the nineties, Blanche.
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Speaker 1: When did Maxwell interrupt them? Well, is that right, Blanche,
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't know. I don't know, so I don't want
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Speaker 1: you to have to worry about exact dates. You're not
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Speaker 1: positive about that, but you don't have a specific recollection
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Speaker 1: of that being in the nineties. Maxwell, No, Well, Blanche
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Speaker 1: don't know anything. I'd be surprised if Blanche even knew
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Speaker 1: the basic story here. And I'm not even being facetious
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Speaker 1: when I say that, Blanche. Okay, Maxwell, I can date
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Speaker 1: it for you, I think, but I can't give you
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Speaker 1: to that. She's interrupted by Blanche again. That's okay. I
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Speaker 1: think that's fine. So with respect to just and Will,
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Speaker 1: we'll just take a break in a minute to get
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Speaker 1: some food. But just with respect to mister, with respect
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Speaker 1: to individuals you just talked about, so again, focus in
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Speaker 1: on the nineties and so the people that I'm talking
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Speaker 1: about right now, and we might add some names later.
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Speaker 1: So we're talking about the clients that he worked with,
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Speaker 1: which you've mentioned several of and I know that that
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Speaker 1: wasn't exhaustive, but you mentioned several of them, and then
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Speaker 1: kind of what I called famous friends, the prominent individuals
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Speaker 1: that were in his life in the nineties. Does any
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Speaker 1: of that stick out in your mind as having received massages. Maxwell.
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Speaker 1: Henry Rozowski received a massage, Blanche, And why does that
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Speaker 1: stick out in your memory? Maxwell? Because I saw him
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Speaker 1: in a bathrobe at seventy first Street and he had
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Speaker 1: received a massage. He told me, Blanche, do you know
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Speaker 1: that was the masseuse was naked during the massage? Maxwell?
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have any idea, Blanche. Do you know whether
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Speaker 1: he Maxwell? I doubt it. He was like in his eighties, Blanche,
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Speaker 1: say it again, Maxwell, I doubt it. He was like
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Speaker 1: in his eighties. So because you're in your eighties doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean you don't want to get your weasel greased. I
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Speaker 1: don't understand what that even means, Blanche. Okay, so do
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Speaker 1: you notwithstanding his age, Maxwell Minsky, Sorry, Blanche said that again?
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Speaker 1: Maxwell Minsky was another person, Blanche. Do you know whether,
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Speaker 1: for example, President Clinton ever received a massage? He goes
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Speaker 1: right to Clinton. Really, that's who you go to. Maxwell.
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Speaker 1: I don't believe he did. Well, that's a lie. He did,
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Speaker 1: Schantay Davies. Let's keep it moving, Todd, Blanche And what
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Speaker 1: makes you say you don't believe he did? Maxwell? Well?
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Speaker 1: Because I don't so that's a good question. The time
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Speaker 1: that Epstein and President Clinton sped together, the only times
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Speaker 1: I believe, well, obviously they traveled there was that you know,
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Speaker 1: the plane. They went on the plane twenty six times
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Speaker 1: or whatever. That would be one journey, so they spent
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Speaker 1: time on the plane together, and I don't believe there
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Speaker 1: was ever a massage on the plane. So that would
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Speaker 1: have been the only time that I think President Clinton
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Speaker 1: would have received a massage, and he didn't because I
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Speaker 1: was there. Hey, Todd, Blanche, I know you're out to
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Speaker 1: lunch and you're busy sniffin' Donald Trump's jock, but you
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Speaker 1: should probably ask her about the picture of Bill Clinton
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Speaker 1: getting a massage on that trip in the airport by
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Speaker 1: Chante Davies. Not speculation, not me guessing that actually happened. Blanche,
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Speaker 1: And you mentioned in the early the very beginning of
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Speaker 1: the conversation, you mentioned President Trump in the early nineties. Maxwell, Yes, Blanche,
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Speaker 1: what did you observe as far as President Trump and
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Speaker 1: his relationship with mister Epstein? Maxwell, Well, I just want
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Speaker 1: to say for my relationship with Trump, relationship's a big word,
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Speaker 1: but I just want to say that I met him,
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Speaker 1: or I believe I may have because of my father
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Speaker 1: in the nineties. Again she's lying. There's proof of them
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Speaker 1: all pallling around together. Blanche, yep, Okay, Maxwell, So my
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Speaker 1: father liked him very much, and he was loved, really
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Speaker 1: liked his wife as well, because we're both Czechoslovakian. As
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Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, President Trump was always very cordial
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Speaker 1: and very kind to me. And I just want to
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Speaker 1: say that I find I admire his extraordinary achievement in
18:24
Speaker 1: becoming the president. Now dann that noses brown as Look, Glaine,
18:29
Speaker 1: how can you breathe with your nose in gulf so
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Speaker 1: deeply up the President's behind? And I like him and
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Speaker 1: I've always liked him. So that is the sum of
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Speaker 1: substance of my entire relationship with him. No wonder Trump
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Speaker 1: wished her well, Blanche. What about mister Epstein's relationship with him? Maxwell,
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Speaker 1: I don't know how they met, and I don't know
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Speaker 1: how they became friends. I certainly saw them together, and
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Speaker 1: I remember the few times I observed them together, but
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Speaker 1: they were friendly. I mean, they seem friendly. Maxwell. I
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Speaker 1: believe I only ever saw them in social settings. I
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Speaker 1: don't recall any private setting. Blanche, did you ever have
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Speaker 1: you ever been to mar A Lago and Palm Beach. Yeah,
19:09
Speaker 1: that's where she got Virginia from. You dumb asshole, Glenn Maxwell.
19:14
Speaker 1: I have Blanche, And what time period are you thinking
19:16
Speaker 1: about when you say this? Maxwell, I don't remember when
19:20
Speaker 1: the president purchased mar A Lago, so from whenever it
19:23
Speaker 1: turned into the club, I went there. I love going there, Blanche.
19:27
Speaker 1: Did you go there with mister Epstein or alone? Maxwell?
19:31
Speaker 1: Mostly alone? To that she's cut off by Blanche. Do
19:34
Speaker 1: you know where? And then she cuts off? Blanche? And
19:37
Speaker 1: the times I went there, it was for an event,
19:40
Speaker 1: maybe once or twice, Blanche. And do you know whether
19:43
Speaker 1: mister Epstein ever went there? Maxwell? I believe he did,
19:47
Speaker 1: but again we really he didn't take me with him
19:50
Speaker 1: all the time, so we would go He never I never, Well,
19:54
Speaker 1: he did from time to time, but he would go alone.
19:57
Speaker 1: I think he would maybe go to himself to the SPA.
20:00
Speaker 1: I certainly did, Blanche. Did you ever observe President Trump
20:04
Speaker 1: receive a massage? Maxwell? Never? Blanche, did you ever observe?
20:09
Speaker 1: You said that you were? I mean, have you seen
20:11
Speaker 1: that there's photographs public photographs of mister Epstein and President
20:15
Speaker 1: Trump together? Maxwell, yes, Blanche. And there's photographs of I
20:20
Speaker 1: think you're in some of the photographs Maxwell, Yes, Blanche
20:24
Speaker 1: as well. Those all appear to be social settings. Maxwell, yes, Blanche.
20:28
Speaker 1: Do you to that he's cut off again by his
20:31
Speaker 1: pal Glane Maxwell during her ted talk here. That's my memory.
20:35
Speaker 1: They were social settings. I don't know Epstein if he
20:38
Speaker 1: had whatever the nature of the President's friendship, if you will,
20:41
Speaker 1: or however you wanted to find that with Epstein, I was.
20:44
Speaker 1: I never witnessed. They were friendly like people are in
20:47
Speaker 1: social settings. I don't think they were close friends or
20:50
Speaker 1: I certainly never witnessed the president. I don't recall ever
20:53
Speaker 1: seeing him in his house, for instance. I actually never
20:57
Speaker 1: saw the president in any type of massage setting. I never,
21:00
Speaker 1: and it's the president in any inappropriate setting in any way.
21:03
Speaker 1: The President was never inappropriate with anybody in the times
21:07
Speaker 1: that I was with him. He was a gentleman in
21:09
Speaker 1: all respects. Well not according to Maria Farmer. And trust
21:13
Speaker 1: me what I tell you, Maria Farmer is a lot
21:16
Speaker 1: more credible than Glenn Maxwell. Blanche. When's the last time
21:20
Speaker 1: you think you saw in person President Trump? Maxwell, It's
21:25
Speaker 1: been a long time, probably sometime the beginning mid two thousands, maybe,
21:29
Speaker 1: and it would only have been in a social setting
21:32
Speaker 1: as far as I recall, Blanche. And did you ever
21:35
Speaker 1: hear mister Epstein or anybody say that President Trump had
21:38
Speaker 1: done anything inappropriate with messuses or with anybody in your world? Maxwell?
21:43
Speaker 1: Absolutely never, in any context, Blanche, do you know whether
21:47
Speaker 1: messus is from mar A Lagos, Spa ended up giving
21:50
Speaker 1: massages to private massages to mister Epstein. I'm not asking
21:54
Speaker 1: for what you may have read, but from at the time,
21:57
Speaker 1: from your personal knowledge, do you know whether that's true? Maxwell?
22:01
Speaker 1: I don't recall. Is it possible, Yes, but I don't remember.
22:05
Speaker 1: I don't remember that, so I don't want to I
22:07
Speaker 1: don't recall that, but it's possible, Blanche. Do you have
22:11
Speaker 1: a recollection of ever recruiting a massuse from mar A Lagos,
22:14
Speaker 1: Spa to go and give a private massage to mister Epstein. Maxwell,
22:19
Speaker 1: I've never recruited a massus from mar A Lago for that,
22:22
Speaker 1: as far as I can remember, I can't ever recollect
22:25
Speaker 1: doing that. So she didn't go and find Virginia at
22:29
Speaker 1: mar A Lago. How is todd, Blanche? She could just
22:32
Speaker 1: sitting here and allowing her to rewrite history. I mean,
22:35
Speaker 1: holy fucking shit, the fact that he's doing this should
22:39
Speaker 1: terrify everybody. This isn't a deposition, this is a fireside
22:43
Speaker 1: chat with You're a homie, Blanche, Okay, So I think
22:47
Speaker 1: we should do Now, it's about twelve fifteen. We'll take
22:50
Speaker 1: a break and we'll come back in a little bit.
22:52
Speaker 1: Maxwell okay, Blanche okay. So they take their break, then
22:57
Speaker 1: they come back at twelve fifty nine pm. Spencer Horn,
23:01
Speaker 1: Good afternoon. We're continuing the recorded profer interview of miss Maxwell.
23:05
Speaker 1: The time is twelve fifty nine Thursday, July twenty fourth,
23:08
Speaker 1: with how close Todd, Blanche and Maxwell are. I bet
23:11
Speaker 1: you they had one drink with two straws at lunch.
23:14
Speaker 1: Blanche okay. So just to continue what we're talking about,
23:17
Speaker 1: Miss Maxwell, still focused on the nineties time period, with
23:21
Speaker 1: understanding that could spill over in the early two thousands,
23:24
Speaker 1: but still that part of your life with mister Epstein.
23:27
Speaker 1: There has been public reporting about conduct by mister Epstein
23:30
Speaker 1: and others at Little Saint James Maxwell. Yes, Blanche, can
23:35
Speaker 1: you talk about the frequency with which you went there
23:38
Speaker 1: and address some of those some of the reporting namely
23:41
Speaker 1: around young messus's or young women who would be present,
23:44
Speaker 1: and that you observed Maxwell, yes, Blanche relating to them,
23:48
Speaker 1: and then I'll ask the questions around that Maxwell. So
23:51
Speaker 1: if I'm right, he purchased the island in ninety six,
23:54
Speaker 1: and he was friendly with the owners and originally he
23:56
Speaker 1: went to the island as a guest of the owners,
23:58
Speaker 1: and then I guess at some point point the owners
24:00
Speaker 1: told them they wanted to sell and he decided to
24:03
Speaker 1: purchase it. So the island was very rustic. I loved it.
24:07
Speaker 1: He of course had completely different ideas, and I would
24:10
Speaker 1: say there was none of what you were describing at
24:12
Speaker 1: the early period of time. Nothing happened Glenn Maxwell and
24:16
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein completely innocent, and all the survivors they're all liars.
24:22
Speaker 1: So the frequency was was often, we're often on the
24:25
Speaker 1: island because he loved it. He really really loved it,
24:27
Speaker 1: and he would go all the time. Mostly all the
24:30
Speaker 1: early phase was based on improvements that could be made
24:33
Speaker 1: on the island, always going with new architects, new designers,
24:36
Speaker 1: new construction people. I'd say the first two years, almost
24:40
Speaker 1: every trip, not everyone, but almost every trip contained some
24:44
Speaker 1: an individual who would be brought on board to have
24:46
Speaker 1: an opinion as to how I don't want to use
24:49
Speaker 1: the word improve the island, because I don't think you
24:51
Speaker 1: could improve it. But I think that word would be
24:55
Speaker 1: what's the word I'm looking for to develop it? Sorry,
24:57
Speaker 1: that's the word, Blanche, Okay, Maxwell, develop develop the island.
25:02
Speaker 1: That's the word I'm looking for. So there were trips,
25:04
Speaker 1: constant trips with that in mind. And I would say, now,
25:08
Speaker 1: if we are moving to the late nineties or ninety
25:11
Speaker 1: six ninety seven, I definitely witnessed a progression in mister
25:15
Speaker 1: Epstein's behavior and a modification, if you will. Where in
25:18
Speaker 1: the past, in the early nineties, I don't remember traveling
25:21
Speaker 1: so much with other people. There would be a massuse
25:24
Speaker 1: or a yoga person, but now he started to travel
25:26
Speaker 1: with more always a massuse. Whereas in the past it
25:29
Speaker 1: wasn't always a massuse or always an instructor. There was
25:33
Speaker 1: now starting to always be an individual or a friend
25:36
Speaker 1: or whatever. There's always like maybe the word would be entourage,
25:39
Speaker 1: and there would always be people in their twenties, late twenties,
25:42
Speaker 1: early thirties, as my memory sees it, as I observed
25:46
Speaker 1: that time, and he tasked me with finding a local
25:49
Speaker 1: masseuse for him in saying Thomas, because sometimes even though
25:52
Speaker 1: I say he would always travel with an entourage, sometimes
25:55
Speaker 1: he didn't and he wanted to have a massage locally.
25:59
Speaker 1: This lady's just spitting words out, just saying all kinds
26:02
Speaker 1: of nonsense. Whatever she thinks, that butt head Blanche wants
26:06
Speaker 1: to hear. So I visited the spas that were local
26:10
Speaker 1: in Saint Thomas and Saint John. If I met someone
26:12
Speaker 1: a man or a woman actually, because it was difficult
26:15
Speaker 1: to find somebody in Saint Thomas, it's not exactly you know.
26:18
Speaker 1: So I did find a couple of people who would come.
26:21
Speaker 1: So that's how they came. Because also it was a schlep,
26:25
Speaker 1: so if you had somebody who came, it would be
26:27
Speaker 1: you would have to you know, boat ride and several hours.
26:30
Speaker 1: It wasn't just like arriving with your massage table and stuff.
26:34
Speaker 1: So there was that. So I did that, Blanche. So
26:38
Speaker 1: did over the years males also give massages to mister
26:40
Speaker 1: Epstein Maxwell. Yes, I did say, I don't think at
26:44
Speaker 1: the beginning definitely, and I would say towards sort of
26:46
Speaker 1: again late nineties, I don't remember any men they were
26:50
Speaker 1: at the beginning. I think that towards late nineties, I
26:53
Speaker 1: cannot think of any men. I think of women. All right, folks,
26:57
Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap up this episode of Glenn Maxwell's time
27:00
Speaker 1: talk with the Government right here, and in the next
27:02
Speaker 1: episode talking about the topic, We're gonna pick up from
27:05
Speaker 1: where we left off. All of the information that goes
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27:12
Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
27:15
Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're getting right back to
27:18
Speaker 1: the Glen Maxwell transcripts, or as I like to call it,
27:22
Speaker 1: her ted talk with Todd Blanche. Blanche, did you, well
27:27
Speaker 1: you talk about entourage flying right now, we're talking about
27:30
Speaker 1: the island. Did you observe any sexual I was gonna
27:33
Speaker 1: say misconduct, but any sexual any sex at all, whatsoever
27:37
Speaker 1: on the plane? Maxwell? Never on the plane, no, Blanche.
27:41
Speaker 1: Was there a part of the plane that was closed
27:44
Speaker 1: off from others where mister Epstein could go and get
27:47
Speaker 1: a massage or whatever? Maxwell? Yeah, okay, so that's a
27:50
Speaker 1: good question. So there were two planes, so you had
27:53
Speaker 1: the Gulf Stream and that's open plane. So anything, I mean,
27:57
Speaker 1: there was a sofa that turned into a bed, and
27:59
Speaker 1: he did on that and then but in the boeing
28:02
Speaker 1: which he flew on a lot, his area could be
28:05
Speaker 1: closed off with a door, and behind that door there
28:08
Speaker 1: would be there was a bedroom and an office. So
28:11
Speaker 1: if that door was shut, you wouldn't see it, Blanche.
28:14
Speaker 1: But so if you never so, but you never observed
28:18
Speaker 1: mister Epstein engaging in sex or getting a massage with
28:21
Speaker 1: somebody with whether the messuse was not clothed on the plane, Maxwell,
28:26
Speaker 1: I can't say that I might have, Blanche, Okay, Maxwell,
28:30
Speaker 1: I definitely might either both in the gulf stream or Blanche. Okay, Maxwell,
28:35
Speaker 1: I'm sure I did, but it's not I can't Blanche. No, No,
28:39
Speaker 1: that's fair, Maxwell, Okay, I'm absolutely sure I did. I
28:42
Speaker 1: must have, because you know, he was so obsessed with
28:45
Speaker 1: someone rubbing his feet or just when you ask me
28:48
Speaker 1: about massages, I want to be clear. I generally think
28:52
Speaker 1: of that as somebody on a massage table, but other
28:55
Speaker 1: people might think of it as something different. You know,
28:58
Speaker 1: you could have someone rubbing his feet or shoulder. I
29:01
Speaker 1: saw that all the time that I did, but that's
29:03
Speaker 1: separate from being on a massage table. A massage is
29:06
Speaker 1: a massage Glenn Maxwell, stop parsing words, Blanche again. I
29:12
Speaker 1: know we're talking about a decade long period. But during
29:15
Speaker 1: the period we're talking about, in a seven day week,
29:17
Speaker 1: how often would you see mister Epstein get a massage?
29:21
Speaker 1: In the nineties when we're talking, he would get one
29:23
Speaker 1: every day. I think as the time progressed, he would
29:27
Speaker 1: get one maybe twice a day. I do want to
29:30
Speaker 1: say that there was maybe a reason that things altered
29:33
Speaker 1: or more if they're progressed, and it is maybe part
29:36
Speaker 1: of the reason also that he and I our relationship.
29:40
Speaker 1: Somebody wants to call it altered. He started doing testosterone
29:44
Speaker 1: and it altered his character. And I believe that started
29:47
Speaker 1: in the late nineties. And I believe that the FBI
29:50
Speaker 1: has his medical records, and you may see that on
29:53
Speaker 1: his medical records. Yes, Blanche, So you believe that he
29:57
Speaker 1: started taking testosterone in the nineties. And when you say
30:00
Speaker 1: that altered his behavior, you're saying it made him get
30:03
Speaker 1: more massages, or that he was just one part of
30:06
Speaker 1: what changed about him. Maxwell, Well, he became more aggressive, Blanche,
30:11
Speaker 1: I see Maxwell, and I think that maybe, well, now
30:15
Speaker 1: I'm just imagining that the testosterone altered his desires or something, Blanche.
30:21
Speaker 1: And so when given what you've said in the past
30:24
Speaker 1: couple hours about his kind of progression or change, let's
30:27
Speaker 1: focus on that time period. So that's more towards the
30:30
Speaker 1: late nineties Maxwell the testosterone. Yeah, okay, Blanche, So ninety six,
30:35
Speaker 1: ninety seven, ninety eight, you know, towards Maxwell cuts him off. Yeah,
30:40
Speaker 1: Blanche cuts her off. When you've said that he changed,
30:43
Speaker 1: did you know flat out that he was having sex
30:46
Speaker 1: or otherwise some sort of sexual contact with messuses regularly.
30:50
Speaker 1: Maxwell flatly out No. I denied that I couldn't imagine
30:55
Speaker 1: that he would, but I think looking back now that
30:58
Speaker 1: I did not. But I started to suspect that he
31:02
Speaker 1: was not faithful. Seems ludicrous, but that's what I thought. Oh,
31:06
Speaker 1: poor Glaine Maxwell, the victim. Anyone who buys this once
31:11
Speaker 1: again is a complete and utter moron, Blanche. But look,
31:17
Speaker 1: if he's flying from Palm Beach to Saint Thomas, or
31:20
Speaker 1: if he's flying all over the country to New Mexico
31:23
Speaker 1: or in New York, or even in Palm Beach, and
31:25
Speaker 1: there's young women putting aside, whether they are under age
31:28
Speaker 1: eighteen or in their twenties. Every day at the house,
31:31
Speaker 1: multiple messuses, multiple massages on some days, you're interacting with
31:36
Speaker 1: the messuses constantly. Maxwell, huh, Blanche. Or maybe that's not right, Maxwell,
31:41
Speaker 1: that's not right, Blanche. Let me take back what I
31:44
Speaker 1: just said. Ignore that part, of course, Ignore that part
31:47
Speaker 1: because it doesn't help Maxwell. Blanche, but you understand that
31:51
Speaker 1: he's getting massages every day, sometimes multiple times a day
31:55
Speaker 1: by the late nineties. It's all women. Presumably some of
31:58
Speaker 1: them are new, but they're all repeat messuses. I mean,
32:02
Speaker 1: you had to know at that point that there was
32:04
Speaker 1: something going on beyond just he really needed to get
32:07
Speaker 1: a massage. Maxwell. Okay, so very fair question. There's two things.
32:12
Speaker 1: The first is the person that he saw the most
32:15
Speaker 1: at that period of time was in her forties Blanche.
32:19
Speaker 1: Uh huh, Maxwell, And she was with them all the time.
32:22
Speaker 1: And I'm like married as well, Blanche. Yeah, And as
32:26
Speaker 1: I'm square, and it never occurred, well, I don't believe
32:29
Speaker 1: it occurred to me at the time that with this
32:32
Speaker 1: woman he would be having relations. She's square. How about
32:36
Speaker 1: the sex games? Maxwell, Yo, she's doing nothing but lying here,
32:40
Speaker 1: And the fact that Todd Blanche is allowing it tells
32:42
Speaker 1: us everything we need to know about the motivations of
32:45
Speaker 1: him and the Trump administration, and he was with her.
32:49
Speaker 1: That was the person he had the most massages yoga
32:53
Speaker 1: with at the time, in the nineties period. The second
32:56
Speaker 1: thing is that he told me he had difficulty having
32:59
Speaker 1: an erection, and I believed him, Blanche, when you said
33:02
Speaker 1: he said that, you mean he regularly told you that,
33:06
Speaker 1: Maxwell when I first because when I didn't have sex
33:09
Speaker 1: with him after the first time, so I asked him
33:13
Speaker 1: was it me? And he told me it was him.
33:15
Speaker 1: And I have never up until this moment in my
33:18
Speaker 1: life as if I'm not stupid, I'm very bright. I've
33:22
Speaker 1: had an excellent education, but I have never met or
33:25
Speaker 1: understood that somebody could be would lie to me. It
33:29
Speaker 1: never occurred to me. Oh yeah, No, nobody ever lies
33:31
Speaker 1: to you, Glenn Maxwell. That's because you're busy doing all
33:35
Speaker 1: the lying like you're doing right now. I didn't have
33:38
Speaker 1: a frame of context within my life experience where somebody
33:41
Speaker 1: would be so manipulative and devious with me. And plus
33:46
Speaker 1: I just didn't have and I was happy not to
33:48
Speaker 1: have sex because I have a condition that doesn't lend
33:51
Speaker 1: itself to that. Oh everybody has a condition, huh. Epstein's
33:54
Speaker 1: Pecker doesn't work. Prince Andrew doesn't sweat, Glenn Maxwell has
33:59
Speaker 1: some shoes downstairs. She doesn't like sex. All of this
34:03
Speaker 1: is a big mistake, Blanche. But when you learned so
34:06
Speaker 1: fast forward just for a moment to the two thousand
34:09
Speaker 1: and seven eight nine time period, and he's arrested and
34:12
Speaker 1: charged and there's all kinds of press around his purported contact.
34:16
Speaker 1: At that point, at that point, did you accept that
34:19
Speaker 1: it was true? Meaning, did it make sense at that
34:21
Speaker 1: point when you were reading about women who claim that
34:24
Speaker 1: they had been abused even under age. At that point,
34:27
Speaker 1: did you think to yourself, well, geez, that makes sense
34:29
Speaker 1: now that I think about it, or no? Maxwell, First
34:32
Speaker 1: of all, that I only read what was in the newspapers.
34:36
Speaker 1: I didn't have any other thing. And I'm embarrassed to
34:39
Speaker 1: say it. I didn't believe it. She might have said
34:42
Speaker 1: that in past tense, but she doesn't believe it now either, Blanche. Okay, right,
34:46
Speaker 1: I mean you didn't believe that the accusations were true
34:49
Speaker 1: at the time, Maxwell, No, Blanche, So yeah, let's Maxwell
34:54
Speaker 1: cuts him off, and sorry, I need to say, even
34:56
Speaker 1: if they were true, I believe that he was duped
34:59
Speaker 1: and he didn't know that they were whatever that was
35:01
Speaker 1: in the papers at the time, whether they said that
35:04
Speaker 1: they were seventeen or it didn't register. Because to that,
35:08
Speaker 1: Blanche cuts her off. Yeah, Maxwell, along with all those well,
35:12
Speaker 1: not in two thousand and six, but later when the
35:14
Speaker 1: more salacious and other allegations came out, I knew they
35:17
Speaker 1: were utterly false, which then just reinforced my belief that
35:21
Speaker 1: the rest was not true. This stupid fucking Scuffuza still
35:25
Speaker 1: won't admit it. Jeffrey Epstein innocent, Glayn Maxwell innocent. Donald
35:32
Speaker 1: Trump never knew Jeffrey Epstein, They never talked once. Prince Andrew,
35:36
Speaker 1: Who's that? That's the kind of shit this lady's saying.
35:39
Speaker 1: And your homiet Todd Blanche, But had Blanche is letting
35:43
Speaker 1: her get away with it. This is not how a
35:45
Speaker 1: deposition works. This is not a statement of fact. This
35:48
Speaker 1: is a deposition where she should be challenged. But no,
35:53
Speaker 1: that didn't happen, did it, Blanche. Let me ask you
35:56
Speaker 1: a question about the age of messuses over the years.
35:59
Speaker 1: I think, in my mind there's the difference between you
36:01
Speaker 1: knowing or not knowing that a messus is under the
36:03
Speaker 1: age of eighteen and coming to give a massage once again,
36:07
Speaker 1: dumb ass, Todd, Blanche, do you really think that Jeffrey Epstein,
36:10
Speaker 1: Rich asked, Jeffrey Epstein has to go and get girls
36:13
Speaker 1: without massage therapist's licenses to give them massages. What he
36:17
Speaker 1: can't afford a real one, He has to go and
36:19
Speaker 1: get one from a girl that doesn't know what she's doing.
36:21
Speaker 1: Why didn't you go to an agency to get these
36:23
Speaker 1: massage therapists? Why were you out patrolling mar A Lago
36:27
Speaker 1: and high schools for New Biles? In your own words,
36:30
Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell, Maxwell, I think it's better to answer this
36:35
Speaker 1: question with corroborating evidence and then go back to explain
36:38
Speaker 1: so that I frame Blanche. Yeah, Maxwell, your understanding of
36:42
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, or my understanding is that in two
36:45
Speaker 1: thousand and let's say two thousand and eight, they had
36:48
Speaker 1: interviewed forty four women, let's say, or around that number.
36:51
Speaker 1: Blanche aha. Aha, that's your answer, Blanche auha. These were
36:55
Speaker 1: girls from pom Beach High School and other high schools.
36:59
Speaker 1: We're talking about two thousand and eight. Here, he doesn't
37:02
Speaker 1: call her out on this, He doesn't say to her, well, listen,
37:04
Speaker 1: you're a convicted felon, and what you're saying here is unacceptable.
37:09
Speaker 1: You're not here to rewrite history. You're here to answer
37:11
Speaker 1: my questions. Maxwell. You have to understand not a single
37:16
Speaker 1: one of those forty four women mentioned in a single report.
37:18
Speaker 1: And it's not because go back, they didn't mention me
37:21
Speaker 1: in their report, because they never met me. They never
37:23
Speaker 1: saw me, and they never interacted with me. So to
37:26
Speaker 1: go back to your question, it's not that I thought
37:28
Speaker 1: one way or the other. It's that I didn't see them. Blanche, Okay,
37:32
Speaker 1: I see, Okay, Maxwell, does that Blanche? Yeah, No, that's helpful. Maxwell,
37:38
Speaker 1: I'm not But when I say, not one, not single
37:42
Speaker 1: one of those reports talked about me, And I just
37:46
Speaker 1: want to clarify exactly because I'm obviously aware that one
37:50
Speaker 1: of those girls is was one of the witnesses in
37:52
Speaker 1: my trial, specifically redacted to use her own testimony so
37:56
Speaker 1: that you don't have to Blanche, Yeah, here are my
37:59
Speaker 1: point of view. It's better if it comes from her words,
38:02
Speaker 1: and that's that way, there's no second guessing whether that's
38:05
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Redacted herself said that redacted recruitedor redacted
38:09
Speaker 1: broader and redacted traineder those are Redacted's on words. Where
38:14
Speaker 1: was I going with this, Blanche, that you were that
38:16
Speaker 1: you didn't know? I mean, I assume you were saying Maxwell,
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry, Blanche, that's okay. I'm trying
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Speaker 1: to remember where I was. I can help you with that.
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Speaker 1: You're in fucking La La Land, certainly not in reality
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Speaker 1: with the rest of us. Blant, so, she says, testifies
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Speaker 1: that it was redacted that recruited her and trained her,
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Speaker 1: not you. So wait. Then her first FBI meeting, she
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Speaker 1: reports seeing a woman with short, dark hare at the house,
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Speaker 1: which then is used as evidence that that person was
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Speaker 1: myself but the maid lady who helped keep the house,
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Speaker 1: John Alessi's wife with an accent. I believe, she said.
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Speaker 1: Unlessi's wife had short, dark hair and an accent. I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: but I find and you can ask yourself this. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I've obviously modified my accent. I've been in America a
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Speaker 1: long time, but I'm British. I've been brought up with
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Speaker 1: a very strong British accent, and I don't believe there's
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Speaker 1: an American on planet Earth that doesn't recognize this to
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Speaker 1: be a British or Australian maybe if you really don't know,
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Speaker 1: but it's not some random accent. Now the hispanic maybe. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that was John's wife that she saw, not me, And
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Speaker 1: I'd like to point out further potentially her own through
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Speaker 1: her own words, she identified. Marcus interrupts, why don't we Maxwell? Okay,
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Speaker 1: stop there and let him ask the question. Maxwell, Sorry, Blanche,
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Speaker 1: you're good. Maxwell, Okay. So it's just and look, I
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Speaker 1: want to try. I think probably tomorrow we will. I
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Speaker 1: want to talk more about the kind of evidence against
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Speaker 1: you and how to address that. What does that even mean?
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Speaker 1: She's convicted already. What they're trying to do, and I'm
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Speaker 1: convinced of it now, is give Glaine Maxwell and out here,
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Speaker 1: and in return for her giving this kind of testimony,
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Speaker 1: they're going to promote Glainne Maxwell. What I mean by
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Speaker 1: that is when this down a little bit, she's getting
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Speaker 1: that pardon. I have no doubt about it after reading
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Speaker 1: this transcript. Zero doubt in my mind, folks, zero doubt.
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Speaker 1: And my guess is she'll probably have a show on
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Speaker 1: Fox News or Newsmax shortly after, because you know, she's
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Speaker 1: the new Darling and all. All right, folks, I think
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Speaker 1: that's enough disgustingness for one episode, So we're gonna wrap
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Speaker 1: up right here, and in the next episode dealing with
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Speaker 1: the topic, we're gonna pick up where we left off.
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