Latest / The Huddle / 08/27/26 - Hour 2
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the Huddle Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin, 920 Milwaukee,
- 0:04Speaker 1: 1070 Madison, everywhere on the iHeart app, streaming live, Facebook
- 0:06Speaker 1: X and YouTube. Drew Olson, Bill Schmidt, Armin Sarin, your
- 0:11Speaker 1: tag team partners here on a Thursday, the day after
- 0:16Speaker 1: Packers joint practice slash LeFleur family picnic slash Melton family
- 0:20Speaker 1: picnic at Ray Nitschke Field. The day before Packers preseason
- 0:25Speaker 1: finale against the Cardinals as a bunch of guys vie
- 0:28Speaker 1: to keep their professional lives intact and win jobs.
- 0:33Speaker 2: As the Cardinals picked up, I think three guys that
- 0:34Speaker 2: plus three safeties that all played in the UFL last year.
- 0:37Speaker 2: You might see a couple of UFL like players sporting
- 0:41Speaker 2: in play and coming up, but it'll be good.
- 0:42Speaker 3: It'll be fun.
- 0:43Speaker 4: Big time. So Packers yesterday. I wasn't there.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Billy was there with Wayne Larrabee, the voice of the
- 0:50Speaker 1: Packers doing the play by play from the perch on
- 0:52Speaker 1: the last public practice, the last training camp practice per
- 0:55Speaker 1: se of training camp proper because of walk through today
- 0:57Speaker 1: game and then We're in the kind of season mode.
- 1:00Speaker 1: Cut down day is Sunday. Now, from the coverage, I
- 1:04Speaker 1: learned that the Packers entire mission and one of their
- 1:07Speaker 1: mantras this year has been let's finish games. Let's finish games.
- 1:10Speaker 1: And they got down to the two minute drill and
- 1:12Speaker 1: went over for.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:13Speaker 2: And over for an over for right by the goal line. Drew,
- 1:16Speaker 2: there was there was a the last one was, I think,
- 1:19Speaker 2: a four. third and goal from the one for the
- 1:22Speaker 2: Cardinals that Gardner Minshew punched in Packers. First team offense
- 1:25Speaker 2: got stopped in a goal to go situation. I think
- 1:27Speaker 2: they got it down to about the four. They had
- 1:29Speaker 2: a big save and a big pass to a Jaden
- 1:32Speaker 2: Reed across the middle that converted what would have been
- 1:34Speaker 2: a fourth down. And for that to be your overall
- 1:37Speaker 2: mantra for the off season, and then that to be
- 1:39Speaker 2: your best test of finishing leaves a lot to be desired,
- 1:44Speaker 2: but that means that it's just the perfect coaches film.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Because in the beginning period, man, Jordan Love was cooking.
- 1:49Speaker 2: Him and Christian Watson, three quick completions early. Hit Matthew
- 1:53Speaker 2: Golden a couple of times. Deep crosser to Jaden Reed
- 1:55Speaker 2: right across the middle where if he breaks one tackle,
- 1:58Speaker 2: he's gone.
- 1:59Speaker 4: Perfect.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Exactly what you think of when you think of Jaden
- 2:02Speaker 2: Reed back into the offense to add the explosiveness up
- 2:05Speaker 2: the middle. And then really sputtered late. And, you know,
- 2:09Speaker 2: credit to the Cardinals for not you know, cashing it
- 2:12Speaker 2: in and, and the Packers definitely need to be able
- 2:15Speaker 2: to close down deep. Now they did have the ball
- 2:18Speaker 2: into Matthew golden's hands on one of those two minutes drew.
- 2:22Speaker 2: wide open back of the end zone, hit the two mitts,
- 2:25Speaker 2: splits the zero, and it hits the turf.
- 2:28Speaker 4: And nobody was more upset about it than Matthew Golden.
- 2:30Speaker 2: As he walked off to the side, visibly frustrated, smacked
- 2:34Speaker 2: the helmet onto the ground, apologized to Jordan Love. Jordan
- 2:37Speaker 2: Love was frustrated, but the two-minute ones are the last
- 2:41Speaker 2: thing to remember. So as much as the first impression
- 2:44Speaker 2: is always the most important one, that's how you close,
- 2:47Speaker 2: especially when you– gave up how many fourth quarter leads.
- 2:50Speaker 4: So that was frustrating yesterday. Other than that though, man.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Edron Cooper was impressive throughout the day. We watched their
- 2:58Speaker 2: defense drew last year and talked about it. They needed,
- 3:00Speaker 2: they were kind of banking and planning for him to
- 3:03Speaker 2: be the all pro go from a good rookie to
- 3:07Speaker 2: a all pro level player. And I think somewhere he
- 3:10Speaker 2: stopped around good starter. It appears that he's ready to, uh,
- 3:14Speaker 2: to potentially make that next lead. He is primed and
- 3:17Speaker 2: ready to roll.
- 3:18Speaker 3: We could use that. I mean, that's no doubt.
- 3:20Speaker 1: Because this is like a preseason game, you get some
- 3:23Speaker 1: good and bad. Like I saw that Matthew Golden made
- 3:25Speaker 1: a really nice catch on about a 45-yard pass, tumbling
- 3:29Speaker 1: to the turf, and then dropped the touchdown.
- 3:30Speaker 4: And then dropped the touchdown, yep. So the good with
- 3:33Speaker 4: the bad, right? Oh, 100%.
- 3:34Speaker 2: And I mean, like Brandon Cisse broke up a ball
- 3:37Speaker 2: across the middle, had an interception, and then I think
- 3:40Speaker 2: he was on the coverage in one of those two-minute
- 3:42Speaker 2: drills on a fade ball right to Marvin Harrison Jr., who.
- 3:46Speaker 4: went on up and got it.
- 3:48Speaker 2: That's going to happen in the league, and it's a
- 3:50Speaker 2: good baptism by fire. But, man, Trey McBride had a
- 3:53Speaker 2: number of big catches. Tucker Kraft had a couple of
- 3:56Speaker 2: good looks. It's difficult when you got legit double-barrel action
- 4:01Speaker 2: and you don't have Scott Hansen flipping in between the
- 4:03Speaker 2: screens on red zone.
- 4:04Speaker 3: You're trying to watch both and follow both.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Trying to fully track what's going on with both, so
- 4:09Speaker 2: you definitely miss quite a bit.
- 4:10Speaker 4: But, I mean, it was.
- 4:13Speaker 2: early on Packers offense off to our right Packers defense
- 4:16Speaker 2: to our left and Jordan love in the first team
- 4:18Speaker 2: offense cooking. Every time you look over Edron Cooper is
- 4:22Speaker 2: seemingly making another play near the backfield. That's when you
- 4:24Speaker 2: saw the breakup by CSA that I mentioned earlier. And, uh,
- 4:28Speaker 2: it was, it was quick. It felt really, really good,
- 4:31Speaker 2: but again, Cardinals didn't have Jeremiah love, didn't have James
- 4:34Speaker 2: Connor Connor. There's there's, uh, guys that are out on
- 4:38Speaker 2: both sides, but the Packers first team offensive line, I
- 4:40Speaker 2: did think held pretty firm for a group that drew
- 4:44Speaker 2: is now finally getting themselves some full run together uh
- 4:48Speaker 2: as seemingly all five are ready to lock and load
- 4:50Speaker 2: that's good to see.
- 4:51Speaker 3: And uh tucker craft provided the chippiness that people wanted
- 4:54Speaker 3: right if you wanted to see some of that wasn't
- 4:56Speaker 3: getting into the business of arizona a little bit getting
- 4:59Speaker 3: hit but also making plays and giving the business to
- 5:02Speaker 3: arizona's bench i think i read about that i don't
- 5:04Speaker 3: know what you saw.
- 5:04Speaker 2: Billy yeah it was uh it was hard to hard
- 5:06Speaker 2: to see uh from what exactly happened but it was
- 5:09Speaker 2: in the two minute and uh safety came down and
- 5:12Speaker 2: again i think it's the right play he's trying to
- 5:14Speaker 2: trying to make, trying to stop, keep the clock running. And,
- 5:17Speaker 2: you know, Tucker makes a catch going near the sidelines,
- 5:19Speaker 2: gets hit. Both guys pop up. He's also on the sideline.
- 5:23Speaker 2: Like when you get hit into an opposing sideline, you
- 5:25Speaker 2: immediately probably have the, the Dukes up. Everyone ran over
- 5:28Speaker 2: onto the other side to calm him down. But, There
- 5:31Speaker 2: wasn't a big melee. It wasn't a massive scrums that
- 5:34Speaker 2: you saw throughout. It was a lot more of everybody
- 5:37Speaker 2: pushing each other back to try to get to your
- 5:38Speaker 2: own side.
- 5:40Speaker 4: But yeah, he was a factor, no doubt about it.
- 5:44Speaker 2: And they ended up not being able to convert on
- 5:48Speaker 2: that series of downs. So as much as you'd like
- 5:51Speaker 2: to say that you want to see something else happen,
- 5:55Speaker 2: They got the first down, and they were unable to
- 5:56Speaker 2: put something else together. So they were good, not great,
- 6:00Speaker 2: plenty to still build upon, but good things, especially, I think,
- 6:03Speaker 2: just from that first unit on the offense.
- 6:05Speaker 3: You saw Josh Jacobs with a really, really good burst.
- 6:07Speaker 3: He looks ready to go.
- 6:09Speaker 2: And now you take it in, shower up, and Drew
- 6:12Speaker 2: hit a little bit of bubble wrap after probably warm-ups
- 6:14Speaker 2: on Friday night. Get into those warm-up clothes, and away.
- 6:17Speaker 4: We go on cut-down day on Sunday.
- 6:19Speaker 2: How quick it is, I heard Goody mentioned it yesterday
- 6:22Speaker 2: when he spoke at 10. that they move the cut
- 6:25Speaker 2: down day up a day and a half almost just
- 6:28Speaker 2: because of the Australia game. And he's like, it really
- 6:32Speaker 2: forced our hands on a lot of things. He's like,
- 6:34Speaker 2: we probably would have liked to have a sun Saturday
- 6:36Speaker 2: preseason game.
- 6:37Speaker 4: Couldn't do that with a Sunday.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Mandatory cut down day because you kind of need to
- 6:41Speaker 2: get some medicals and everything back from all the teams
- 6:44Speaker 2: and your own doctors.
- 6:45Speaker 4: So I think they're all ready to go. One other
- 6:47Speaker 4: interesting one was good.
- 6:48Speaker 2: To see Damani Jackson into some team drills because He
- 6:51Speaker 2: has been rather MIA with working himself through injuries and
- 6:55Speaker 2: things like that. Number 20, their sixth-round pick over at corner,
- 6:57Speaker 2: was running a lot with the twos, as Benjamin St.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Jude still wasn't really prepared fully to be back at
- 7:03Speaker 2: practice yet. Good recap by Billy there. I'm fired up.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Now, Trace Mack, who's been riding a wave, missed a
- 7:11Speaker 1: couple kicks. How do we feel about that? Were they
- 7:14Speaker 1: glaring misses?
- 7:15Speaker 4: Were they.
- 7:16Speaker 2: So I couldn't see, I was really struggling to be
- 7:20Speaker 2: able to see where the kicks ultimately ended up. So
- 7:22Speaker 2: I did see a couple wide, right? I mostly just
- 7:25Speaker 2: heard the audible groan that happened with it. I just,
- 7:30Speaker 2: I'm going to roll with how KMA cord and Lafleur
- 7:33Speaker 2: and all them guys had mentioned it throughout the year.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Like it's going to be such a different beast kicking
- 7:37Speaker 2: out there than it is in a stadium. They did
- 7:40Speaker 2: do something different with the kicking game though, drew. Cause
- 7:42Speaker 2: I think they were kicking into the foreign zone. Instead
- 7:45Speaker 2: of usually they're kicking right there. Smack dab center of
- 7:48Speaker 2: the field. So that was a little bit different from
- 7:50Speaker 2: what I had noticed yesterday, but I think he went
- 7:53Speaker 2: with three for five. He missed a couple and one
- 7:56Speaker 2: was definitely a glaring miss. So a little disappointing, but
- 7:59Speaker 2: more than anything, you want to be able to get,
- 8:01Speaker 2: get some full victories. And one Cardinal player can compare
- 8:05Speaker 2: their two minute drill to a Wendy's four for four.
- 8:07Speaker 3: Meal, which doesn't exist anymore. It's the biggie bag, but whatever,
- 8:10Speaker 3: I guess he's not in touch with the culture. So,
- 8:12Speaker 3: That just shows you what the Cardinals are trying to do.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Armin is in touch with the Wendy's culture. It is
- 8:16Speaker 3: pretty funny, though. I mean, if you only won because
- 8:19Speaker 3: a guy, Yancy, thick-pinned it in the end zone, did
- 8:20Speaker 3: you really win? I mean, yeah, you won if it's
- 8:23Speaker 3: really a real game, if a guy drops it. But
- 8:25Speaker 3: if you leave a guy wide open and he just
- 8:26Speaker 3: drops it, I mean, if they want to celebrate that,
- 8:29Speaker 3: that's fine. And the thing with Trace Mack is I'm
- 8:31Speaker 3: a lot less worried after seeing him in real games
- 8:33Speaker 3: and real stadiums. I mean, preseason, but, you know, games, because...
- 8:37Speaker 3: You know, like you said, Bill, you trust what came
- 8:39Speaker 3: a court and you trust what they're trying to work on.
- 8:41Speaker 3: And you trust that maybe what you're seeing in the
- 8:42Speaker 3: practice field is not like necessarily. Okay. It's a concern
- 8:46Speaker 3: that he missed it. He totally missed it. You never
- 8:48Speaker 3: know what they're trying. So the fact is he's kicked
- 8:50Speaker 3: well in games and in stadiums, and that's probably what
- 8:53Speaker 3: matters more. right now, so I'm a lot less concerned
- 8:56Speaker 3: after that. Checking out this biggie bag.
- 8:57Speaker 4: That you're talking about here?
- 8:58Speaker 3: Yeah, the biggie bag. And then there's like three levels now, right?
- 9:00Speaker 4: I always thought it was a.
- 9:00Speaker 2: You used to always just get a double stack, the nuggets,
- 9:04Speaker 2: the fries, and the drink.
- 9:05Speaker 3: They change it up, man.
- 9:06Speaker 4: Goodness gracious. That double stack biggie bag is six bucks now.
- 9:09Speaker 3: These menus are changing all the time.
- 9:10Speaker 2: But I'm down to clown. The Biggie Bundle for eight.
- 9:12Speaker 2: You throw that Big Wendy's Juicy Cheeseburger in front of you,
- 9:15Speaker 2: you're going to be happy.
- 9:15Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing.
- 9:16Speaker 4: We were talking about juices dripping earlier on today, Drew.
- 9:18Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, all the way.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Those juices are going to be dripping after you grab
- 9:22Speaker 2: yourself one of those Junior Bacon Cheeseburgers.
- 9:24Speaker 3: So I don't know if they're– I don't have.
- 9:25Speaker 4: To stop at Wendy's.
- 9:26Speaker 3: I know, right? I did it to you. My God.
- 9:28Speaker 3: They're doing three– you get a little frosty.
- 9:30Speaker 4: Biggie Bundle, guaranteed.
- 9:32Speaker 3: They're doing three levels. Man, we should be getting a– I.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Don't know that there's a better shake combo type to
- 9:41Speaker 2: scoop with the fries than the Wendy's Frosty.
- 9:43Speaker 3: No, the Frosty is kind of like. Frosty's superior.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Right, like, I mean, from that scooping, it's incomparable to
- 9:49Speaker 2: anything else.
- 9:49Speaker 3: It's not a shake. It's not ice cream. They found
- 9:51Speaker 3: a way to kind of corner the market on their
- 9:53Speaker 3: own unique product with the Frosty, and it's worked forever.
- 9:56Speaker 3: I don't know if they're trying to, like, with the
- 9:57Speaker 3: three levels, do what Taco Bell is doing with the boxes.
- 10:00Speaker 3: It's just interesting to see these menus every now and
- 10:02Speaker 3: then when you roll up and you say, boy, things
- 10:03Speaker 3: have changed, but.
- 10:04Speaker 4: I like people judging things on fast food scales.
- 10:07Speaker 3: I do.
- 10:07Speaker 4: It's relatable.
- 10:08Speaker 3: Yes, right?
- 10:09Speaker 4: A lot easier.
- 10:10Speaker 2: A lot easier than this Drew there always trying to say, man,
- 10:12Speaker 2: he's got a 60 arm. I'm like, I don't know
- 10:14Speaker 2: what that means. If you start telling me he's got
- 10:17Speaker 2: a Mighty Kids meal like they used to have at McDonald's,
- 10:19Speaker 2: I remember that.
- 10:20Speaker 3: Mighty Kids.
- 10:20Speaker 4: I mean, that means that we're going to get a
- 10:22Speaker 4: double cheeseburger instead of the single.
- 10:23Speaker 3: Because you were growing out of the Happy Meal. I
- 10:25Speaker 3: remember the Mighty Kids. The idea was you were growing out.
- 10:28Speaker 3: They know how to market these. Oh, yeah. They know
- 10:30Speaker 3: how to market. You got a little bit cooler toy,
- 10:31Speaker 3: a little bit edgier toy. Yeah, because you're growing up.
- 10:34Speaker 3: It's like you're graduating. You get the Arsenal. I get it.
- 10:37Speaker 4: I love it.
- 10:37Speaker 3: Love it. All right.
- 10:38Speaker 1: So reach out to us. If you have thoughts on
- 10:40Speaker 1: the Packers, you know, the controlled scrimmage, 877-794-1973. Now the
- 10:45Speaker 1: Melton family rivalry started out first one.
- 10:49Speaker 3: It was awesome. Yeah.
- 10:50Speaker 4: First pass. Who got the best of it?
- 10:53Speaker 2: So first, the better day, the first play, both teams
- 10:55Speaker 2: come up after the Cardinals do their warmup. And there's
- 10:58Speaker 2: some of their individual drill in the, in Rainage.
- 11:00Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Or in Don Hudson Center, come back out to Ray Nitschke.
- 11:04Speaker 2: And you have a meeting. Both head coaches talk to everybody,
- 11:06Speaker 2: and they say.
- 11:06Speaker 4: All right, huddle up.
- 11:08Speaker 2: And smack dab right in the middle. Jordan Love takes
- 11:10Speaker 2: a snap and goes one-on-one slant route. Max Melton against
- 11:13Speaker 2: Bo Melton. Quick little shake to the outside, and Bo
- 11:16Speaker 2: got the best of his brother, Max. But Max had
- 11:19Speaker 2: some good run throughout. I do believe he got one
- 11:23Speaker 2: PBU on Bo. Could have been Sky Moore. But Melton
- 11:29Speaker 2: was out there running quite a bit, Max Melton that being.
- 11:32Speaker 2: And Bo with the first team's offense and defense. So
- 11:35Speaker 2: I think they got one more matchup together. But you
- 11:38Speaker 2: saw at least throughout all of camp, Drew, for the
- 11:42Speaker 2: folks that were calling us on Packers OT, asking why
- 11:45Speaker 2: Bo Melton was out there as a wide receiver on
- 11:47Speaker 2: third and eight. You won't be out there on third
- 11:49Speaker 2: and eight again. He's going to be out there. He's
- 11:52Speaker 2: going to be rotating in heavily. There was no saving
- 11:54Speaker 2: on William. So it was a part of it. But yes,
- 11:56Speaker 2: prepare yourself because it's going to be a part of it.
- 11:58Speaker 4: It's going to happen now.
- 12:01Speaker 1: I saw that Javon Bullard is back but didn't take
- 12:04Speaker 1: part in 11-on-11s. Is that what happened? So he's back
- 12:07Speaker 1: but not totally back. So he was working out right
- 12:09Speaker 1: around by us, right?
- 12:11Speaker 2: So I don't know if that was technically the rehab
- 12:13Speaker 2: group of what you're supposed to say and what you're
- 12:14Speaker 2: not supposed to say. Most importantly, the last week and
- 12:17Speaker 2: a half, you haven't seen him with a boot on.
- 12:18Speaker 2: He's slowly getting there.
- 12:22Speaker 4: He doesn't need to play.
- 12:23Speaker 3: I got to think he's ready for week one.
- 12:25Speaker 2: We're still two and a half weeks away and he
- 12:28Speaker 2: was going through doing some jogging and some change of
- 12:31Speaker 2: direction thing. Did a little weird eye boxing with Micah
- 12:35Speaker 2: when he came out. They were imitating where somebody was
- 12:38Speaker 2: hitting them back and forth.
- 12:40Speaker 4: They had some fun.
- 12:40Speaker 2: You're having some jokes over there on the sideline, but
- 12:43Speaker 2: he looks ready to roll and Kamal Haddon in his
- 12:46Speaker 2: place played well. And that answered one question for me
- 12:49Speaker 2: is I think Kamal Haddon is definitely on the team.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Like we were talking about it on Packers OT last
- 12:54Speaker 2: week of, is that going to be at the cost
- 12:57Speaker 2: of somebody else? I think they may have been counting
- 12:59Speaker 2: on Kamal Haddon being a part of it. Cause he
- 13:01Speaker 2: immediately walked in to run at that nickel spot with
- 13:04Speaker 2: the first team defense and looked really good doing it.
- 13:07Speaker 4: I heard Carl Brooks's name a lot.
- 13:10Speaker 1: Is he, cause he's a guy that people were saying, well,
- 13:13Speaker 1: they could trade Carl Brooks and Go with, you know,
- 13:16Speaker 1: maybe get a day two or day three pick for
- 13:18Speaker 1: him and then move on. Like that doesn't seem like
- 13:21Speaker 1: it's in the cards now, does it?
- 13:23Speaker 4: No, I don't think so.
- 13:24Speaker 2: I just there they've already eliminated from that position with
- 13:29Speaker 2: with the Colby wouldn't trade. And I think they got
- 13:31Speaker 2: better with Franklin being a part of it.
- 13:33Speaker 5: Yes.
- 13:33Speaker 4: Jonathan Ford looks good. Hargrave brought in.
- 13:36Speaker 2: I just don't think they want to make themselves thinner
- 13:38Speaker 2: at that spot again. And I also wonder if some
- 13:40Speaker 2: of it would be the ghost of last year. Because
- 13:43Speaker 2: when you get rid of Kenny Clark right before the
- 13:46Speaker 2: beginning of the season, it took him a good, what,
- 13:48Speaker 2: three or four weeks before they figured out anybody to
- 13:51Speaker 2: be able to play.
- 13:51Speaker 4: On the interior.
- 13:52Speaker 2: So I think he's definitely going to be a factor
- 13:54Speaker 2: of it. Javon Hargrave looks really good, too. He's got
- 13:57Speaker 2: a legit burst. He's got real speed. And I mean,
- 14:01Speaker 2: he's 33. So you hope that he's able to continue
- 14:03Speaker 2: to play with that throughout the year. Um, but I
- 14:07Speaker 2: do think my man, Anthony Campbell, once again, drew, he's
- 14:10Speaker 2: bats down, bats down a ball and eyes go to 60.
- 14:14Speaker 2: He's going to be a tough guy to cut. He's
- 14:16Speaker 2: a weird case study. Cause he just haven't played a
- 14:17Speaker 2: bunch of football.
- 14:18Speaker 4: He hasn't. And well, and McClellan obviously having a good camp.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Um, Brooks. I, what about the, there's the Josh sweat
- 14:27Speaker 1: fantasy too, that people had that it's.
- 14:29Speaker 3: Still out there.
- 14:29Speaker 4: That's getting hot online again.
- 14:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:31Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 14:31Speaker 3: Still out there.
- 14:32Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 14:32Speaker 1: Fascinating what that position group is going to be. Anything
- 14:35Speaker 1: else stand out to you from yesterday? I mean, one
- 14:38Speaker 1: of the things is I know Goody spoken like the
- 14:42Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs thing. We're still waiting for a resolution on that.
- 14:44Speaker 1: Still like still really no uncertain. And he still hasn't
- 14:48Speaker 1: like when are they going to rip that bandaid off
- 14:49Speaker 1: and have him talk? I guess when he's when they
- 14:51Speaker 1: declare illusion, I think when or when he's eligible to
- 14:54Speaker 1: play when we know he's eligible to play.
- 14:56Speaker 2: See, I think he's going to have to talk probably
- 14:59Speaker 2: before the first game, like the week of Minnesota. I'm
- 15:03Speaker 2: guessing he's going to have to be in the locker
- 15:06Speaker 2: room for availability. The tough thing is, Armin, I don't
- 15:10Speaker 2: know that it's I don't know that we're any closer
- 15:11Speaker 2: to a resolution.
- 15:12Speaker 4: Right.
- 15:12Speaker 2: Like and for the NFL. Yes, they can levy their
- 15:17Speaker 2: punishment before the courts do. Very rarely do they, right? Like,
- 15:22Speaker 2: I mean, they absolutely can. They generally choose not to.
- 15:26Speaker 2: So I think this is going to hang out there
- 15:28Speaker 2: for a while. And otherwise, you're going to soon be
- 15:30Speaker 2: subjecting him to some fines once the season rolls around,
- 15:34Speaker 2: if they start requesting him in the locker room. So
- 15:36Speaker 2: I do think he probably makes himself available before the first,
- 15:39Speaker 2: because the last thing you want to do is you
- 15:41Speaker 2: finish the game in Minnesota, and then he's going to
- 15:44Speaker 2: answer for seven to eight minutes, right?
- 15:45Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not good. I would think you'd want to
- 15:48Speaker 1: do it the week before the week before.
- 15:50Speaker 4: Oh, like in this little bye week at a time?
- 15:52Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 15:52Speaker 4: That's fair. That might be even better.
- 15:54Speaker 3: Ideally.
- 15:55Speaker 4: But then we don't know.
- 15:56Speaker 1: We don't know what we don't know as far as
- 15:59Speaker 1: the wheels of justice grinding, right? So what is going
- 16:02Speaker 1: to happen? And could he not be charged by the
- 16:08Speaker 1: local authorities? and then get sanctioned by the NFL anyway.
- 16:12Speaker 2: Again, very much could rarely does that happen, right? Like
- 16:15Speaker 2: the league doesn't do that a whole lot. I also
- 16:19Speaker 2: think the other, the other part of it is you've
- 16:22Speaker 2: seen the NFL start handing down some judgments. I don't
- 16:24Speaker 2: know that they're going to come on out and say,
- 16:26Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs, isn't going to be suspended. They, it would
- 16:29Speaker 2: definitely help us all if they did, or maybe Schefter
- 16:32Speaker 2: will have it, you know, pinned into his ear that
- 16:34Speaker 2: he's able to report it on, on, on a show.
- 16:36Speaker 2: But the, They had a big wave, what was that,
- 16:41Speaker 2: a week and a half ago? There were like four
- 16:43Speaker 2: or five different guys that got suspended. James Pierce was
- 16:45Speaker 2: one of them with Atlanta. He had some heinous allegations
- 16:48Speaker 2: against him. I think, again, this is pure speculation. This
- 16:53Speaker 2: is a dangerous thing to start doing. Think if he
- 16:55Speaker 2: was going to get suspended without a charge, he would
- 16:58Speaker 2: have by now. But if indeed something happens differently from
- 17:03Speaker 2: the Hobart Police Department, then I think it becomes a
- 17:05Speaker 2: lot different conversation.
- 17:05Speaker 4: I don't know which way it's going to go. I
- 17:07Speaker 4: don't have a feel for it either way, but If
- 17:09Speaker 4: you ask me, like, what do you think is going
- 17:11Speaker 4: to happen? I'm like, I think he's just going to play.
- 17:13Speaker 4: I think he's going to.
- 17:15Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:15Speaker 2: I think the whole situation, Drew, gets fully resolved when
- 17:18Speaker 2: he's on another team. Like, I think this whole thing
- 17:21Speaker 2: takes a lot longer than we like to admit. Maybe
- 17:24Speaker 2: they only learn from the NCAA's court cases.
- 17:27Speaker 4: But I think he's because his contract basically slates up
- 17:31Speaker 4: for this to be the last year of his deal.
- 17:33Speaker 3: You think we won't hear about until the end of
- 17:34Speaker 3: the year is what you're saying.
- 17:35Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think I think I think it
- 17:37Speaker 2: takes a while. I think it takes a while. And again,
- 17:40Speaker 2: maybe maybe I'm wrong.
- 17:41Speaker 4: Maybe I'm naive. Maybe within the next hour, something comes out.
- 17:44Speaker 4: But yeah.
- 17:46Speaker 2: Just like the Micah Parsons return table that we got
- 17:49Speaker 2: asked about a lot yesterday from fans.
- 17:51Speaker 4: So week six, Dallas, that's going to happen, right?
- 17:53Speaker 2: I'm a little bit more reserved on my belief that
- 17:55Speaker 2: it's happening sooner rather than later.
- 17:57Speaker 3: I think that's going to push back a little bit longer. Fantastic.
- 18:00Speaker 1: When we come back, it's halftime already. Scott Dolphin's going
- 18:02Speaker 1: to pop in. I got a couple of headlines I
- 18:04Speaker 1: want to throw at Dolphin.
- 18:05Speaker 4: A couple of things that made me happy yesterday in sports,
- 18:07Speaker 4: believe it or not. My Grinch-like heart expanded by a
- 18:11Speaker 4: few sizes. Let's go.
- 18:14Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin.
- 18:15Speaker 6: Sports grinchmas drew billy and armor bringing it to the
- 18:18Speaker 6: huddle fox sports radio wisconsin halftime of our program means
- 18:23Speaker 6: a visit from our halftime correspondent scott dolvin from the
- 18:26Speaker 6: country station.
- 18:26Speaker 4: On the hall fm 1061 hello dolph.
- 18:29Speaker 5: Hi drew boys what's happening well we just got a
- 18:32Speaker 5: lot better in here yes indeed oh stop it i
- 18:34Speaker 5: um there were a couple stories yesterday and i wanted
- 18:38Speaker 5: to bounce off you that warm my cockles as a
- 18:40Speaker 5: sports observer And Billy was laughing.
- 18:42Speaker 4: Billy couldn't wait to hear this. Say, holy grinch, let's go.
- 18:45Speaker 3: Come on now. Come on.
- 18:48Speaker 4: One of them is the announcement. They were both announced yesterday.
- 18:51Speaker 4: Smaller stories.
- 18:52Speaker 1: Not as big as the Brewers' 8-1 victory or the Packers'
- 18:54Speaker 1: controlled scrimmage.
- 18:55Speaker 5: With the Cardinals. Or the Packers' rivalry uniforms. And the LeFleur, yeah,
- 19:01Speaker 5: or the rivalry uniforms, which we'll talk about. I learned
- 19:03Speaker 5: two new colors yesterday.
- 19:04Speaker 3: But.
- 19:06Speaker 1: Got the announcement that ESPN is getting rid of the
- 19:09Speaker 1: bottom line.
- 19:09Speaker 3: Ticker at the bottom of their college football broadcasts.
- 19:12Speaker 2: Hmm.
- 19:13Speaker 3: What? That's bizarre.
- 19:15Speaker 1: ESPN is getting rid of the bottom line score ticker
- 19:17Speaker 1: during college football broadcasts this coming season.
- 19:19Speaker 4: Is it just because the screen has gotten too busy
- 19:22Speaker 4: over the years? That's basically it.
- 19:23Speaker 1: They want to streamline the college football viewer experience for
- 19:25Speaker 1: fans and remove the ticker from all broadcasts of the
- 19:28Speaker 1: sport across different channels.
- 19:30Speaker 4: Well, we're on our phones so much, I don't think
- 19:31Speaker 4: it's going to matter. That was the thing.
- 19:33Speaker 3: Remember the days where we used to yearn and yearn
- 19:36Speaker 3: for scores?
- 19:37Speaker 4: We did.
- 19:38Speaker 3: You needed scores. You got them once every quarter, and
- 19:40Speaker 3: you were like, whatever it was. I mean, this is way,
- 19:43Speaker 3: way back. Then the real ticker started in the nineties
- 19:45Speaker 3: underneath the scroll. And then like that McDonald's game break.
- 19:48Speaker 3: And yeah, it's just hard to believe because once upon
- 19:51Speaker 3: a time. They wouldn't put any score bugs on the screen.
- 19:53Speaker 3: Some networks in the 90s when Fox started doing the
- 19:56Speaker 3: Fox box because they thought viewers would be too distracted.
- 19:59Speaker 3: And now I guess we've come full circle 30 years later.
- 20:01Speaker 5: Are we all old enough to remember when you didn't
- 20:03Speaker 5: even get the little box with the running score?
- 20:05Speaker 4: Absolutely. We remember that. That blows my mind. We remember
- 20:09Speaker 4: those days.
- 20:09Speaker 2: When all of a sudden you see it on the
- 20:12Speaker 2: play right before, just glimpse up and then fade back out.
- 20:15Speaker 4: Third and six. For the most part.
- 20:17Speaker 3: It was NBC, yeah.
- 20:18Speaker 4: Wasn't it mostly wallpaper, though?
- 20:20Speaker 3: It was like, okay, so.
- 20:21Speaker 1: Southwest Louisiana is beating McNeese State right now.
- 20:25Speaker 2: So we're not getting it right. We're still getting it
- 20:27Speaker 2: during all their other programming where they'll roll through scores. Yeah,
- 20:30Speaker 2: but not live games. Just not during live games.
- 20:33Speaker 1: Occasionally if there's an upset alert, but I was wondering
- 20:35Speaker 1: if it was that, I think it's twofold, that first
- 20:38Speaker 1: people have it in their palm. You've got the entire world.
- 20:42Speaker 3: In your palm. I guess now we do, yeah.
- 20:43Speaker 1: And everybody's got a second screen up anyway. But it
- 20:46Speaker 1: was screen clutter and If there's an upset, if ESPN's
- 20:51Speaker 1: broadcasting a game and there's an upset brewing on CBS
- 20:54Speaker 1: and they show the score, doesn't that make people want
- 20:56Speaker 1: to flip over?
- 20:57Speaker 3: Oh, very true. Good point.
- 20:57Speaker 4: Yeah, very true. That makes sense.
- 20:59Speaker 1: I get that part of it, right? But it's like
- 21:02Speaker 1: that used to be. And so I heard some squawking
- 21:04Speaker 1: about it. But for the most part, I like the
- 21:06Speaker 1: cleaner experience.
- 21:07Speaker 3: I do, too.
- 21:07Speaker 4: I can watch.
- 21:09Speaker 1: You can multitask by having your phone or a second
- 21:11Speaker 1: screen in your hand and watch the game.
- 21:13Speaker 4: Because immediately I want to be upset about it, right?
- 21:16Speaker 2: I'm like, why are you taking away my opportunity to
- 21:19Speaker 2: know if Clemson is covering the five and a half
- 21:21Speaker 2: at the moment? But if I am betting on it,
- 21:23Speaker 2: I'm definitely watching it on the second screen or on
- 21:26Speaker 2: my phone.
- 21:26Speaker 3: Or on the phone anyway.
- 21:27Speaker 2: Or I'm tracking it some way. So that just won't
- 21:30Speaker 2: be a problem. And it Definitely is better. Again, I'm
- 21:35Speaker 2: thinking through this. It adds just a little bit more
- 21:37Speaker 2: room on my quad box on YouTube TV when I'm
- 21:40Speaker 2: watching it. So there's probably going to be a better experience.
- 21:42Speaker 3: I think people are splitting up their screen more and
- 21:44Speaker 3: it gets smaller and smaller. I'm going to be the
- 21:46Speaker 3: old guy to say, I don't like having to open
- 21:48Speaker 3: my phone. I want to see the score in front
- 21:50Speaker 3: of my face. That's interesting. I'm that guy, I guess.
- 21:52Speaker 3: So I don't know.
- 21:53Speaker 1: Because, yeah, it's interesting because there's some rumblings that this
- 21:57Speaker 1: is a bad thing for people who gamble and stuff
- 22:00Speaker 1: like that. But there's also, like, there's a, okay, boomer
- 22:03Speaker 1: or grandpa, you know, just get your phone.
- 22:05Speaker 4: What do you need that for?
- 22:06Speaker 1: Like, if you look up and you miss it and
- 22:08Speaker 1: you're going to go to your phone anyway, you miss
- 22:10Speaker 1: the score you're looking at.
- 22:11Speaker 4: Well, and that was, I mean, I definitely did it yesterday.
- 22:14Speaker 2: I missed the Bryce Durant home run as I was
- 22:16Speaker 2: sitting there scrolling and watching some random scored track through
- 22:19Speaker 2: on my phone and see what the White Sox game
- 22:21Speaker 2: was doing. If Jack Peterson had actually hit a homer.
- 22:24Speaker 2: So I'm guilty of it as much as anybody. I
- 22:27Speaker 2: really want to be upset about it, but I do
- 22:29Speaker 2: think I'm going to like it.
- 22:30Speaker 5: I'm going to like it as well. There's certain things
- 22:32Speaker 5: I would say, no way. No, I would really miss
- 22:35Speaker 5: the yellow first down line.
- 22:37Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
- 22:38Speaker 4: We'd have some serious problems. Can't go back. That's become
- 22:40Speaker 4: a crutch.
- 22:41Speaker 5: The Fox box or whatever they call it now in baseball,
- 22:44Speaker 5: you know, you can tell before the catcher challenges if
- 22:47Speaker 5: it's going to be a ball or strike.
- 22:48Speaker 4: What do they call it?
- 22:49Speaker 3: 100%. There's the score.
- 22:50Speaker 4: No, he's not talking about the score, but he's talking
- 22:51Speaker 4: about the K zone.
- 22:52Speaker 3: The K zone.
- 22:52Speaker 4: He's talking about the strike zone. Fox box. Yep. Because
- 22:56Speaker 4: Fox was the first one to be able to pop
- 22:57Speaker 4: it up.
- 22:58Speaker 3: Okay.
- 22:59Speaker 4: And I do.
- 23:00Speaker 2: I also think the we've seen it a little bit
- 23:03Speaker 2: now in year number two of the virtual measurement.
- 23:06Speaker 4: We got to spice this up a little bit.
- 23:07Speaker 2: We got to add some drama to the virtual measurement
- 23:10Speaker 2: that they're doing in the NFL because now, at least
- 23:13Speaker 2: now you see the arrow as to where it's pointing
- 23:14Speaker 2: to because that was some of the best drama is
- 23:16Speaker 2: watching some 70-year-old guys try out to the far side
- 23:20Speaker 2: of the field to be able to measure that thing out.
- 23:22Speaker 4: And I love those jobs haven't been eliminated yet. We
- 23:24Speaker 4: still have them, yes. Those guys are still there. Oh, yeah.
- 23:27Speaker 4: The chain gang is still around. You just don't see
- 23:29Speaker 4: them as much anymore.
- 23:30Speaker 2: Now, the media starts with me, Drew. I am a
- 23:33Speaker 2: little bit nervous because they moved around our configuration at
- 23:36Speaker 2: Lambeau Field. I don't know that I'm going to be
- 23:37Speaker 2: able to get their leftover snacks out of that chain gang.
- 23:39Speaker 4: That's right.
- 23:42Speaker 2: There was always at least a few Nature Valley bars
- 23:44Speaker 2: sitting there right at the end that would help us
- 23:46Speaker 2: get through that third hour of Packers OT every once
- 23:48Speaker 2: in a while. That's one of my jobs that I've
- 23:51Speaker 2: always dreamed of having, is being on a college or
- 23:55Speaker 2: NFL chain gang. Because you do that in high school.
- 23:57Speaker 2: You volunteer on that in high school. You get to
- 24:00Speaker 2: hear some of the darndest.
- 24:01Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
- 24:02Speaker 3: That is one of the best times on the opposing side.
- 24:04Speaker 5: I think I told you guys one of the thousand
- 24:06Speaker 5: jobs I had in my life. I was the orange
- 24:08Speaker 5: mitt guy. The orange sleeves. I did that for three
- 24:11Speaker 5: years at Soldier Field. And you can't imagine that.
- 24:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:14Speaker 4: Stand on the 25 yard line. Yeah.
- 24:16Speaker 3: I still have them.
- 24:17Speaker 4: I still have my orange sleeves. That is one of
- 24:19Speaker 4: the coolest jobs. Oh, it was fun.
- 24:20Speaker 5: It just made for such an incredibly long day. And
- 24:22Speaker 5: when we started having kids, I mean, you're gone. I mean, for,
- 24:25Speaker 5: for a noon game, I had to be there at
- 24:26Speaker 5: eight 30 on a Sunday morning and you're there with
- 24:28Speaker 5: the production meeting at well after the game is over.
- 24:31Speaker 4: For like 150 bucks.
- 24:32Speaker 3: I don't know what they get paid.
- 24:33Speaker 4: Because you end up being one of the most important
- 24:35Speaker 4: people on the broadcast. Definitely. Yeah, you are.
- 24:37Speaker 3: You really are.
- 24:38Speaker 5: There's a lot of responsibility there. You better not miss
- 24:41Speaker 5: a command. I hope it's still not this way. But
- 24:45Speaker 5: back in the day, you had to try to spot flags. Well,
- 24:48Speaker 5: when you're on field level, it is damn hard to
- 24:50Speaker 5: spot flags in live action. And one day, this was
- 24:53Speaker 5: a national, it was a Simmerall-Madden game back in the 90s.
- 24:57Speaker 5: where they said, any flags, any flags, any flags? And
- 24:59Speaker 5: I said, nope, on my headset, and there was a flag,
- 25:02Speaker 5: and they started cutting to a commercial, and they had
- 25:04Speaker 5: to bail out of that Chevy commercial.
- 25:06Speaker 4: And come back for the punt.
- 25:07Speaker 3: Oh, no, that's the worst situation.
- 25:08Speaker 5: That was on me, and I thought I was done.
- 25:09Speaker 5: And I'll never forget the assistant director afterwards put his.
- 25:12Speaker 4: Arm around my shoulder. He goes, don't worry about it.
- 25:13Speaker 4: It happens all the time. I'm like, okay, all right. Sorry,
- 25:16Speaker 4: I'm not going to be upset about it. I'm going
- 25:18Speaker 4: to go crack a cold one. I'll feel a lot better.
- 25:19Speaker 3: What a load off because you're probably nervous about it.
- 25:22Speaker 3: I know that feeling. You don't want to have to
- 25:23Speaker 3: cut out a commercial. So you're doing TV, and then
- 25:26Speaker 3: you're also for the radio. You've got hand signals that
- 25:28Speaker 3: you're doing for them, too. So, you know, during the
- 25:31Speaker 3: radio timeout, the arm was behind the back. I don't
- 25:33Speaker 3: know if it's still like this, you know.
- 25:35Speaker 5: You'd ask the white hat if– or he'd ask you
- 25:38Speaker 5: if you want one, and you'd say, I'm asking, or
- 25:41Speaker 5: you'd give him a thumbs up, and then, you know,
- 25:43Speaker 5: there's all little.
- 25:44Speaker 1: I had no idea you did that. Line judge would
- 25:46Speaker 1: come over. The game within the game.
- 25:48Speaker 5: Field judge would come over and stand with you in
- 25:49Speaker 5: the green hat and hit that stopwatch, and you had
- 25:52Speaker 5: a minute and 50 seconds to get back because he's
- 25:57Speaker 5: putting that ball back in play.
- 25:58Speaker 2: Did you get better than all of a sudden– Love it.
- 26:00Speaker 2: And Mets goes and puts the X up. You know
- 26:01Speaker 2: that you're going to a commercial.
- 26:02Speaker 4: All right, sweet. I'm going to run to the back.
- 26:03Speaker 5: Were you on the headset with the director in the truck?
- 26:07Speaker 3: You know we're on the headset with Madden and Summerall.
- 26:09Speaker 6: No, no.
- 26:09Speaker 4: Just the director in the truck.
- 26:10Speaker 3: That would have been cool, too. Those guys off mic, yeah.
- 26:14Speaker 4: Director in the truck.
- 26:16Speaker 1: I knew a guy that was in charge of wrangling
- 26:18Speaker 1: cords back when they had the long cords. And he
- 26:21Speaker 1: was on the sideline wrangling coaches' cords for the headsets.
- 26:24Speaker 1: And he had something to do with the headsets. And
- 26:25Speaker 1: he's standing on the sideline chilling. And all of a sudden,
- 26:27Speaker 1: he sees Tom Brady. Cause the Packers were playing the
- 26:30Speaker 1: Patriots at Lambeau and Tom Brady was taking a knee
- 26:32Speaker 1: by the bench right by him. And he looked and
- 26:34Speaker 1: he's like, I'm standing there. I'm like, ah, that's Tom Brady.
- 26:36Speaker 1: That's really wild.
- 26:38Speaker 4: And then he sees a puddle forming by his feet.
- 26:41Speaker 4: It's like, Tom Brady's peeing right next to me.
- 26:44Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
- 26:46Speaker 1: He took a knee, leaning on his helmet, and he
- 26:49Speaker 1: discreetly peed.
- 26:50Speaker 4: On the sideline.
- 26:51Speaker 2: It's amazing how good you can get at this. Guys
- 26:53Speaker 2: do that all the time. That was the original blue tent.
- 26:56Speaker 2: The real reason for the blue tent at first was
- 26:59Speaker 2: the bathroom that would happen.
- 26:59Speaker 5: To be out there. I can tell you, I never
- 27:01Speaker 5: experienced that in my three years on the sideline. It
- 27:03Speaker 5: was cool, though, because players would try to find out
- 27:05Speaker 5: where you were because they, like anybody else, wants to
- 27:08Speaker 5: know when they're going to get a break. And they'd
- 27:10Speaker 5: be out jogging early before the game. Junior Seau, I
- 27:13Speaker 5: remember coming over and saying hello one time, saying, you're
- 27:15Speaker 5: going to be right here on the 25-yard line.
- 27:16Speaker 4: Hey, buddy, you're going to be right here? Yeah, it
- 27:17Speaker 4: was amazing. Hey, buddy, you're going to be right here?
- 27:20Speaker 4: And I forgot, all these memories are coming back.
- 27:22Speaker 5: At 10.30 before noon game, you had to go in
- 27:25Speaker 5: with the green hat and the tech guy, and they
- 27:26Speaker 5: would get the umpire or the head of the official
- 27:31Speaker 5: team mic'd up and they test everything. And, uh, so
- 27:34Speaker 5: you go into these cramped little locker rooms at soldier
- 27:36Speaker 5: field and at hockey, I would be running around and like,
- 27:39Speaker 5: you know, skin tight football skivvies.
- 27:41Speaker 4: Just firing out his pregame.
- 27:44Speaker 2: Guns everywhere, you know, and you'd have to rip out
- 27:47Speaker 2: a quick hundred before golf came in to make sure
- 27:49Speaker 2: that it was veined out.
- 27:50Speaker 3: All right.
- 27:52Speaker 1: So the ticker was one thing that wore my cockles.
- 27:54Speaker 1: The other was the announcement that they tried to slip
- 27:56Speaker 1: through and people weren't going to notice.
- 27:58Speaker 4: No more Pro Bowl games. Oh, so well done. Oh,
- 28:01Speaker 4: my God.
- 28:01Speaker 1: Thank God. My boycott finally worked. I'd never watched that crap.
- 28:07Speaker 1: I mean, I went to the one in Vegas.
- 28:09Speaker 4: Oh, that's right. Yes.
- 28:10Speaker 5: You really?
- 28:10Speaker 3: Yes.
- 28:10Speaker 4: We took some listeners to Vegas. They were really cool
- 28:12Speaker 4: dudes that we got to hang out with.
- 28:14Speaker 2: I'll tell you, the little skills competition with the players
- 28:18Speaker 2: actually being like no helmets, hanging out, laughing, and having
- 28:22Speaker 2: more fun, that ended up being a lot better because
- 28:24Speaker 2: you could actually hear some of them. But it is.
- 28:27Speaker 2: That would be much better in May. That is a
- 28:30Speaker 2: full-on off-season activity. at that point. And I like Peter O'Reilly,
- 28:34Speaker 2: vice president or executive vice president.
- 28:36Speaker 4: Of the NFL.
- 28:37Speaker 2: It's okay to be the first league to walk away
- 28:39Speaker 2: from a competitive all-star game.
- 28:40Speaker 4: Brother, you walked away from that years ago. I was
- 28:42Speaker 4: going to say it's been that, that ship sailed.
- 28:44Speaker 1: So I'm glad that they tried what they could to
- 28:48Speaker 1: put the paddles to it and keep sucking life and
- 28:50Speaker 1: sponsor dollars out of the broadcast.
- 28:52Speaker 4: But it was bad TV. It was a bad live event.
- 28:55Speaker 4: It just wasn't good. It wasn't compelling.
- 28:56Speaker 3: And guys don't want to play, and that's what it
- 28:58Speaker 3: comes down to. If they don't want to play, they're
- 29:00Speaker 3: not going to do it.
- 29:00Speaker 1: They're just going to name the 88 pro bowlers, and
- 29:03Speaker 1: then that's it. We'll give you a high five, handshake,
- 29:07Speaker 1: and you're a pro bowler.
- 29:07Speaker 2: And then also, it'll probably mean more when it comes
- 29:10Speaker 2: down to contracts, because as much as we all say, well,
- 29:13Speaker 2: that doesn't matter anymore. The pro bowl doesn't matter anymore.
- 29:16Speaker 2: They don't matter anymore until they stop putting in contract incentives.
- 29:19Speaker 3: Right.
- 29:19Speaker 2: And it still isn't a lot of different incentives for
- 29:23Speaker 2: Pro Bowls and stuff like that. So they have to
- 29:24Speaker 2: be able to name it. But I do like the
- 29:26Speaker 2: fact that now there's something like, fellas, we're the NFL.
- 29:30Speaker 5: All right.
- 29:30Speaker 2: The Super Bowl is coming up. We're not going to
- 29:32Speaker 2: make a mockery on a Tuesday night anymore.
- 29:34Speaker 5: It was always just behind the eight ball anyway, because
- 29:36Speaker 5: nobody wanted to. You didn't want to get anybody hurt.
- 29:39Speaker 5: You couldn't have it in the season like every other
- 29:41Speaker 5: major sport does. You couldn't have it before the Super Bowl.
- 29:44Speaker 5: I lost interest decades ago, probably when I was a kid,
- 29:47Speaker 5: when it was still at Aloha Stadium.
- 29:48Speaker 3: Yeah, after Hawaii, I think.
- 29:50Speaker 4: That's when a lot of us did. Yeah, they wore
- 29:51Speaker 4: the red and the blue unis with their own helmet.
- 29:53Speaker 3: It was pretty awesome.
- 29:54Speaker 5: And those guys didn't get paid. So that was a
- 29:57Speaker 5: big deal if you went to the Pro Bowl. They
- 29:58Speaker 5: got a vacation for Hawaii for their family. It paid
- 30:01Speaker 5: $ 30, 000 to win and $ 15, 000 to lose, and they actually
- 30:04Speaker 5: had some incentive, and it was actually fun. It wasn't
- 30:07Speaker 5: the ridiculousness that it became.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 30:10Speaker 2: Well, and the other part, the camaraderie around the team
- 30:14Speaker 2: or around, like, the league, I appreciated it of, like,
- 30:17Speaker 2: it's cool still to get the best players all together and, like,
- 30:20Speaker 2: hanging out and talking shop. Now they all do that
- 30:22Speaker 2: in the offseason, right? All of the top offensive linemen
- 30:25Speaker 2: go to one summit. There's the pass rush summit, tight
- 30:28Speaker 2: end universe.
- 30:29Speaker 4: Tight end you.
- 30:29Speaker 2: All of them have their own little spot where they
- 30:31Speaker 2: end up still being able to share shop secrets and
- 30:34Speaker 2: all get better. Like, that part of it, the fun
- 30:36Speaker 2: little football side of being able to hang around around
- 30:39Speaker 2: a keg chop it up with some of the best
- 30:41Speaker 2: players in the league.
- 30:42Speaker 4: They all do that now just in the off season.
- 30:44Speaker 4: Can you imagine before we're around?
- 30:46Speaker 5: Although I've heard stories that the college all-star team used
- 30:48Speaker 5: to play the, was it the Superbowl champion, the Superbowl
- 30:51Speaker 5: champions at soldier field?
- 30:53Speaker 4: That is nuts.
- 30:54Speaker 3: Yeah. All those, all those games were important. Cause it
- 30:56Speaker 3: was like the rare times that scouts and GMs would
- 30:59Speaker 3: look at players back then, you know, you didn't have
- 31:01Speaker 3: a lot of, but Hey, if you want to, if
- 31:03Speaker 3: you still want to hold onto those nostalgic pieces, Mitchell
- 31:06Speaker 3: Ness just put the Reggie White Pro Bowl jersey on sale.
- 31:10Speaker 3: So if anyone's out there, that's your tip from Armin today.
- 31:13Speaker 3: All right. The blue star stripe thing in the side
- 31:16Speaker 3: of the shoulder and everything like that.
- 31:17Speaker 4: Mitchell Ness.
- 31:18Speaker 2: The Chicago Charities College All-Star Game, the annual preseason match
- 31:23Speaker 2: played from 1934 to 1976 between the top college seniors
- 31:28Speaker 2: and the reigning NFL champions.
- 31:29Speaker 4: I didn't even know it went till 76. I was around.
- 31:32Speaker 4: I remember.
- 31:33Speaker 2: The only reason I remember it is because I dated
- 31:35Speaker 2: a girl in college from Illinois. And every single time
- 31:39Speaker 2: I went and I talked to her dad, somehow that conversation.
- 31:42Speaker 2: Every single time. You know, they call it Soldier's Field.
- 31:45Speaker 2: Soldier's Field. Soldier's Field. Yeah.
- 31:47Speaker 4: I used to play a college all-star game there every
- 31:49Speaker 4: single day.
- 31:49Speaker 3: Every year. Every year.
- 31:50Speaker 4: The best team of college players. Best college players. All
- 31:52Speaker 4: of them. All the best college players. Right here. Right
- 31:54Speaker 4: in one spot. They're playing the Super Bowl champions. Right there.
- 31:56Speaker 4: That game was what everybody actually wanted to see.
- 31:58Speaker 3: Is there documentation on these games? Because, I mean, obviously,
- 32:01Speaker 3: the 66 and 67 Packers played in those games.
- 32:04Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely.
- 32:05Speaker 3: I don't think or think I've heard or seen anything
- 32:07Speaker 3: about it.
- 32:08Speaker 1: There's a lot to talk about. In Jerry Kramer's book,
- 32:10Speaker 1: he talked about them playing. Lombardi didn't want to lose
- 32:14Speaker 1: to the college kids.
- 32:14Speaker 3: You know what? I guess I got caught. I thought
- 32:16Speaker 3: I read all of it. It's a replay. I guess
- 32:18Speaker 3: I didn't.
- 32:18Speaker 5: And this is the same era when the Bears and
- 32:20Speaker 5: Packers would play, if not one, two preseason games, too.
- 32:23Speaker 4: And they'd always play one in Milwaukee.
- 32:25Speaker 3: Right.
- 32:25Speaker 4: Wasn't that like a big charity game? Bishop's Charities game. Yeah.
- 32:28Speaker 3: Shrine game. Shrine game.
- 32:30Speaker 4: Yeah, Billy, I guess I got on that. Here's the
- 32:32Speaker 4: other thing. Like, that college All-Star game went away in 76? Yeah,
- 32:35Speaker 4: that's what Billy said, yeah.
- 32:36Speaker 1: From 70 to 77, they played six preseason games.
- 32:40Speaker 3: Right. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah.
- 32:42Speaker 1: If you were in the college All-Star game, that was
- 32:44Speaker 1: one of your preseason games. But they played 14 regular
- 32:46Speaker 1: season games and six preseason.
- 32:48Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 32:48Speaker 4: And then in 78, they cut it to four when
- 32:51Speaker 4: they expanded to 16 games.
- 32:52Speaker 3: Well, and I mean, also, that's when they were doing, what,
- 32:55Speaker 3: two and a half months of training camp. Guys needed
- 32:58Speaker 3: to get back in shape.
- 32:58Speaker 2: I mean, that was a good two and a half
- 33:00Speaker 2: months of training camp to get in shape, basically, until
- 33:02Speaker 2: you started the season.
- 33:03Speaker 3: Because the offseason was second job season.
- 33:05Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just it.
- 33:06Speaker 3: I mean, you had to get in shape because you were,
- 33:08Speaker 3: you know, they always say driving a beer truck, but
- 33:10Speaker 3: whatever the job was.
- 33:11Speaker 4: Yeah, that's in Jerry Kramer's book, too.
- 33:13Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw. I remember that part. All right, that book. Yeah.
- 33:18Speaker 3: But they always did a work second job, so times
- 33:20Speaker 3: have changed, obviously.
- 33:21Speaker 1: In the 60s, it was like you could play four
- 33:23Speaker 1: or five, and teams that needed a lot of money
- 33:25Speaker 1: would have the extra game and.
- 33:27Speaker 4: Try to grab as many of them as possible.
- 33:28Speaker 3: As many as you could, yeah.
- 33:30Speaker 4: It's grown a little bit since then.
- 33:31Speaker 1: Because they went from 12 to 14 games, so it's
- 33:33Speaker 1: been metastasizing for a while.
- 33:35Speaker 3: Sports fans were more interested in quote-unquote games that didn't matter, right?
- 33:38Speaker 1: You think about it, though, and those guys all played
- 33:40Speaker 1: in every preseason game. So you're playing six preseason and 14.
- 33:44Speaker 1: That was 20-game season. Full 20-game season.
- 33:46Speaker 4: And they were playing in the preseason like it mattered.
- 33:48Speaker 2: I was going to say they were playing at the
- 33:51Speaker 2: least a half into one of those things.
- 33:53Speaker 3: They were running it.
- 33:54Speaker 4: They had the taxi squad, as they called it back then, too.
- 33:56Speaker 3: Right.
- 33:56Speaker 4: The taxi squad.
- 33:58Speaker 3: The taxi squad. Yeah, exactly. I love that.
- 34:00Speaker 1: So we've got no ticker on the bottom line because
- 34:03Speaker 1: it got to the point with the draft where I
- 34:05Speaker 1: get overwhelmed with the draft coverage because there's so many
- 34:07Speaker 1: tickers going on and who's on the clock and the
- 34:09Speaker 1: stuff spinning.
- 34:10Speaker 5: Like, man. It gives me like a seizure. I'll say this,
- 34:13Speaker 5: and I assume it was ESPN that started it. The
- 34:16Speaker 5: game changer in non-games is that box that drops down
- 34:21Speaker 5: to tell you what story they're going to cover.
- 34:23Speaker 4: The PTI line? Freaking great.
- 34:24Speaker 5: I mean, you see it on SportsCenter now, too, and
- 34:26Speaker 5: we've adopted that in radio with coming up in six
- 34:29Speaker 5: minutes and coming up in 100%.
- 34:30Speaker 1: The last couple nights as I've been ready to fire
- 34:32Speaker 1: up the grill, the Blackstone... ABC Nightly News, they basically
- 34:38Speaker 1: do that PTI thing. They tell you everything they're going
- 34:40Speaker 1: to talk about in the show and they give you like,
- 34:42Speaker 1: you know, 15 seconds on it.
- 34:43Speaker 4: It's like, then why do you need the story?
- 34:44Speaker 3: They tell you the shot clock.
- 34:46Speaker 1: 20 minutes later, they're doing the story that they already
- 34:49Speaker 1: told me. They spent so much time on the teases
- 34:51Speaker 1: that they barely have time for the news.
- 34:53Speaker 3: Actually tell you the story. Exactly.
- 34:56Speaker 1: So that's where we are as a society that can't
- 34:58Speaker 1: watch a show and not be distracted. You have to know,
- 35:00Speaker 1: like we're giving you the tick tock headline. I only have,
- 35:03Speaker 1: I only have four minutes of attention. You let me
- 35:05Speaker 1: know exactly when to pay attention. So in the first
- 35:07Speaker 1: four minutes, they tell you everything they're going to talk
- 35:09Speaker 1: about in the next 22.
- 35:09Speaker 3: Okay. Hold on one second.
- 35:11Speaker 4: All right, sweet. Call me in seven.
- 35:13Speaker 5: It could backfire, too. You could say, nope, I'm out.
- 35:16Speaker 5: I'm not interested in those stories going on.
- 35:17Speaker 4: It's bizarre.
- 35:18Speaker 3: But now, you know, we have to watch our phones.
- 35:20Speaker 3: We can't watch TV for scores. That's right.
- 35:22Speaker 1: But I did love that, you know, we're the first
- 35:24Speaker 1: league to get rid of the competitive All-Star game.
- 35:26Speaker 4: You did that years ago.
- 35:27Speaker 2: I was going to say, you did that when Jeff
- 35:29Speaker 2: Saturday went and snapped for Peyton Manning.
- 35:31Speaker 1: I called you out at one point and, you know,
- 35:34Speaker 1: come on. They haven't tried in that game in forever.
- 35:38Speaker 5: If somebody asked me what's the greatest moment in Pro
- 35:40Speaker 5: Bowl history, I couldn't come up with one thing.
- 35:42Speaker 3: Already a kicker getting liquored up. That Peyton Manning interview
- 35:45Speaker 3: was my favorite. Wasn't that the Pro Bowl?
- 35:48Speaker 4: Probably. We all know that one. It's Sean Taylor.
- 35:53Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
- 35:54Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Sean Taylor splitting the punter in half.
- 35:58Speaker 4: I do remember that. On the fake pun.
- 36:00Speaker 3: That'll definitely be it.
- 36:01Speaker 4: And then that was when the competitive all-star game vanished.
- 36:05Speaker 4: Very quickly.
- 36:06Speaker 2: After that poor guy's soul left his body right there
- 36:09Speaker 2: on the far right sideline.
- 36:11Speaker 4: Dolph, thanks for the run today. All right, fellas. See
- 36:13Speaker 4: you tomorrow. As always. Yes, indeed. Halftime is over. We
- 36:17Speaker 4: plow forward. Who's hot? Who's not? Hero of the day.
- 36:20Speaker 1: Hunter Baumgart going to join the program to talk Brewers.
- 36:23Speaker 1: at 725.
- 36:24Speaker 4: You're in the huddle. Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin. Phil, you've
- 36:43Speaker 4: talked in the first half.
- 36:45Speaker 3: Remember Reggie Wayne got out of Sean Taylor. Ryan Mormon
- 36:48Speaker 3: going back out onto the field. And that is why. Congratulations,
- 36:52Speaker 3: Sean Taylor.
- 36:54Speaker 1: Emotional damage from Pro Bowls gone by. Armin Sarin going
- 36:58Speaker 1: into his rabbit hole. That's why your algorithm's all screwed up, man. Well,
- 37:03Speaker 1: sports clips.
- 37:04Speaker 2: That and I just got sucked on a rabbit hole
- 37:07Speaker 2: of bull riding yesterday.
- 37:08Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
- 37:09Speaker 2: My my for you, Paige, is just the most impressive
- 37:14Speaker 2: bucking and tossing you've ever seen in your entire life.
- 37:16Speaker 3: I like about bull riding highlights because that's happened to me.
- 37:19Speaker 3: They don't take very long. You can just pop the
- 37:21Speaker 3: very quick, very quick. I'm not that invested. It's like
- 37:24Speaker 3: a horse race. You can watch all horse races. I'm like,
- 37:26Speaker 3: all right.
- 37:27Speaker 4: I didn't realize they grade the bull, too.
- 37:29Speaker 3: Oh, okay. Well, I like that.
- 37:31Speaker 2: The bull gets a score and the rider gets a score.
- 37:34Speaker 2: And then it's combined. And then that's how it ultimately
- 37:38Speaker 2: rolls up. It's a fascinating rabbit hole that I got
- 37:42Speaker 2: dragged down. And I will tell you this. I might
- 37:43Speaker 2: be digging in more to it. Because the way you
- 37:46Speaker 2: started doing that kind of scoring system and give some
- 37:48Speaker 2: credit to the real athlete in there. The two-ton bull
- 37:52Speaker 2: that's just tossing people up and down, jumping four or
- 37:55Speaker 2: five feet up in the air?
- 37:56Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one that I can celebrate. How about the
- 37:58Speaker 3: guys that got to calm the bull down once it's over?
- 38:00Speaker 3: That's not easy either.
- 38:01Speaker 4: Not a job I'd want to sign up for.
- 38:02Speaker 3: That is not easy. Those guys should get some credit.
- 38:05Speaker 4: I would pass on that as well.
- 38:06Speaker 1: Time for a little Who's Hot, Who's Not brought to
- 38:08Speaker 1: us by Donovan Jorgensen, heating and cooling.
- 38:10Speaker 4: Billy who's hot.
- 38:12Speaker 2: Who's hot would be, well, let's be honest. Eduardo Rodriguez
- 38:15Speaker 2: was pretty dang hot yesterday. Now may have gotten away
- 38:18Speaker 2: with a beautiful balker around the world, but he went
- 38:22Speaker 2: seven innings, gave up just two hits as Pete Crow Armstrong,
- 38:26Speaker 2: very appropriately said, shoved it down their throat. Seven innings
- 38:30Speaker 2: of shutout baseball and the diamond bags beat the Cubs
- 38:32Speaker 2: two to nothing.
- 38:34Speaker 4: Also hot.
- 38:35Speaker 2: The Phillies out in Seattle, uh, They get homers from
- 38:38Speaker 2: Schwarber and Harper, win six goose over the Mariners. But
- 38:42Speaker 2: the NL East, they don't gain any ground because a
- 38:46Speaker 2: walk-off again last night in the ATL. Hot are the
- 38:50Speaker 2: Atlanta Braves after their Little League victory against the Crew.
- 38:53Speaker 2: They've won two against Big Blue in the Dodgers. Roki
- 38:56Speaker 2: Suzuki leaves in the fourth inning with a little bit
- 38:59Speaker 2: of a finger issue. He had already given up four
- 39:01Speaker 2: earnings in those four innings of work. And don't look now.
- 39:05Speaker 2: We mentioned we're keeping track. It's one of our favorite
- 39:08Speaker 2: races to keep. Dodgers and Braves racing for the two seed.
- 39:12Speaker 2: Brewers ahead of both of them. But slowly now, just
- 39:15Speaker 2: a two-game advantage for L.A.
- 39:17Speaker 4: Over Atlanta.
- 39:18Speaker 2: And they get one more today, a 6-15 first pitch
- 39:21Speaker 2: down in ATL.
- 39:24Speaker 4: Shout-out once again are the Pittsburgh Pirates.
- 39:26Speaker 2: They are not hot as they lose to the San
- 39:28Speaker 2: Diego Padres yesterday. Tough. scene for a tough scene for
- 39:31Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates who bought at the deadline and then
- 39:34Speaker 2: just slid right down the back of the dinosaur. But
- 39:36Speaker 2: nothing was worse. Drew for one home team yesterday. The
- 39:41Speaker 2: San Francisco don't call me the New York Giants. Oh boy.
- 39:45Speaker 2: After a booming blast into the gap in center Plated
- 39:50Speaker 2: two runs, or three runs, cleared the bases in the
- 39:53Speaker 2: bottom half of the eighth inning. The Giants led it
- 39:55Speaker 2: 9-3 at the beautiful Oracle Park. And then the ninth
- 40:00Speaker 2: inning happened. Started with a solo shot, then a walk,
- 40:04Speaker 2: then two wild pitches, another two walks, and a Eugenio
- 40:08Speaker 2: Suarez grand slam.
- 40:09Speaker 4: It's 9-8.
- 40:10Speaker 2: Then an infield single, a bun single, a sack fly,
- 40:13Speaker 2: a single. And all of a sudden, it's a 10-9
- 40:16Speaker 2: Reds victory with seven in the ninth inning as they
- 40:19Speaker 2: beat the Giants yesterday. And the G-men go to 31
- 40:23Speaker 2: and 34 at home. That's a tough L.
- 40:25Speaker 4: I don't think the Giants have ever lost a game
- 40:27Speaker 4: with that big a lead.
- 40:28Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness.
- 40:29Speaker 4: And, Drew, it looked even worse than it sounds.
- 40:33Speaker 3: That's wild.
- 40:34Speaker 4: Who's hot? Potentially, Eugenio Suarez available on waivers right now.
- 40:38Speaker 3: And T.J.
- 40:38Speaker 4: Friedel. And T.J. Friedel just hit waivers. Let's see. Go
- 40:42Speaker 4: get that big bat. Yeah, go get him. Could happen.
- 40:45Speaker 2: All right.
- 40:45Speaker 1: Hunter Baumgart joins us at 725. We'll have our current
- 40:48Speaker 1: electric superhero and more for you next.
- 40:50Speaker 4: You are in the huddle. Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin.