Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Joe Tacopina | Defense Attorney | 07-10-26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Put something on my Instagram page at Rosenberg dot Sydney
- 0:03Speaker 1: and on my Twitter at sid Rosenberg nineteen Facebook, sid
- 0:08Speaker 1: Rosenberg and truth Social said they got a whole video.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Killing mom Donnie. You know, because he's a rat bastard.
- 0:14Speaker 1: He hates the Jews, he hates the Greeks, he hates
- 0:16Speaker 1: the Irish, he hates the Germans, and he hates the Italians.
- 0:20Speaker 1: And I ended this eighty second video which was going
- 0:22Speaker 1: to play now, but it takes too long. The last
- 0:24Speaker 1: thing I said was where is the Mafia when you
- 0:27Speaker 1: need him? I'm kind of kidding, but not really. But
- 0:31Speaker 1: Takapina hates.
- 0:32Speaker 3: That you never watch the Sopranos, and he doesn't like
- 0:35Speaker 3: when you stereotype the Italians, even though he knows better
- 0:39Speaker 3: because Joseph you realize as the best defense attorney in
- 0:43Speaker 3: the world and actually worked alongside Bruce Cutler for John Gotti.
- 0:46Speaker 2: That every Italian is either a wannabe or is a mobster.
- 0:50Speaker 4: Yes, everyone, of course, I mean that's not even a
- 0:54Speaker 4: fact in dispute. All we all come from that gangster heritage.
- 1:00Speaker 4: Of course, I just don't like watching it. He said,
- 1:03Speaker 4: that's insane. Now I'm gonna have you whacked just to
- 1:06Speaker 4: saying that.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Okay, no, but you really did.
- 1:09Speaker 1: I remember because I was talking to Angelo people earlier.
- 1:12Speaker 1: He's a great guy. I know, you know who he is.
- 1:14Speaker 1: He's in charge of the Columbus Day parade. He puts
- 1:15Speaker 1: me in it every year, which is silly because I'm
- 1:17Speaker 1: a Jew, but I love the Italians, so he you know,
- 1:20Speaker 1: years ago he banned Bloomberg from coming to the parade
- 1:24Speaker 1: because you wanted to bring the cancer the Sopranos.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Did you know that?
- 1:27Speaker 4: Yeah? I did know that, and I agreed with that.
- 1:30Speaker 4: But the entertainment's fine. You could watch for any show
- 1:33Speaker 4: you want. But as an Italian American, we've already had
- 1:36Speaker 4: to fight this stereotype for years and years and years.
- 1:39Speaker 4: My father, who was an immigrant, works so hard, and
- 1:42Speaker 4: believe me, his family was was victimized by quote unquote
- 1:46Speaker 4: the mafia, right who stole from their own people at
- 1:48Speaker 4: times by basically they owned a little candy store in
- 1:51Speaker 4: in you know, Red Hook in Brooklyn, and you know
- 1:54Speaker 4: they'd have to pay collection every month to to some
- 1:57Speaker 4: some gangsters or the windows will be broken, I mean
- 1:59Speaker 4: film from your people. That's the mafia that my father
- 2:02Speaker 4: and his parents knew, so I you know, I don't
- 2:06Speaker 4: really support that stereotype at all, and ninety nine point
- 2:10Speaker 4: nine percent of Italians don't either. And we're not like that.
- 2:13Speaker 4: But you know, I mean the Italians that I want
- 2:15Speaker 4: to talk to you about are the ones who like
- 2:17Speaker 4: founded this country or like discover this country, like because Plumbus.
- 2:21Speaker 4: You know, there's a legacy to recognize that Italian Americans
- 2:24Speaker 4: embrace the symbol of really America.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt generation and especially the city. I mean,
- 2:30Speaker 1: the Italian people helped dig the subways. You mentioned Christopher Columbus,
- 2:34Speaker 1: going back to the country and the culture, from the
- 2:37Speaker 1: food to the music to I'm gonna show called Graves
- 2:40Speaker 1: and the whole cast trans palmentaries in it. He's coming
- 2:43Speaker 1: up next. The whole cast is Italian, I mean, just
- 2:45Speaker 1: beautiful people. And for this mayor to come up with
- 2:48Speaker 1: this ridiculous map and just exclude Arthur Avenue in the
- 2:53Speaker 1: Bronx and even bigger little Italy in Lower Manhattan.
- 2:57Speaker 2: How could he do something like that?
- 2:59Speaker 4: Yeah, you know it's it's Italian Americans helped build New
- 3:03Speaker 4: York City. And he has to understand, I mean, he's
- 3:04Speaker 4: not in New Yorker. So he wouldn't know that. But
- 3:06Speaker 4: they built its neighborhood. Say, it's businesses, it's unions, it's police,
- 3:09Speaker 4: it's fire, departments of courts, the culture, and they deserve
- 3:12Speaker 4: the same respect that the other communities received. And it
- 3:16Speaker 4: manages me. It managed me. I mean, just imagine for
- 3:19Speaker 4: a second if he had treated I don't know, the
- 3:23Speaker 4: West Indiana Parade with such disrespect, or or one of
- 3:26Speaker 4: those parades that you know, the minorities are all part
- 3:30Speaker 4: of that he embraces. I mean, there would be a
- 3:32Speaker 4: riot in this city. It would be a riot, and
- 3:35Speaker 4: it's just it's wrong. I mean, it's supposed to be
- 3:37Speaker 4: the mayor of New York City, right, A mayor is
- 3:38Speaker 4: supposed to build bridges, not sort of a race traditions,
- 3:41Speaker 4: and and you know, I mean, we know who he is, okay,
- 3:44Speaker 4: But New York's strength has always been every community gets
- 3:46Speaker 4: to sit at the table, said, you know, And the
- 3:48Speaker 4: moment a politicians starts deciding which cults are worthy of
- 3:51Speaker 4: celebration and which aren't, they're not unifying New York City anymore,
- 3:55Speaker 4: and they're dividing it. So again, if he skipped I
- 3:58Speaker 4: don't know the lunar New Year Parade, or the Caribbean
- 4:00Speaker 4: Carnival Parade, or the Puerto Rican Day Parade or the
- 4:03Speaker 4: West Indian Day Parade. People would lose their minds, their minds.
- 4:07Speaker 4: But you know it's Onumbus Day Parade, the Jewish Parade, whatever, whatever.
- 4:11Speaker 4: You know, you guys celebrate that he ignored and skipped.
- 4:14Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's it's he's the mayor. If you
- 4:16Speaker 4: don't want to be the mayor, don't be the mayor, Okay.
- 4:19Speaker 4: But because if you don't, if you want to represent
- 4:21Speaker 4: the city of New York, you have to represent everyone
- 4:23Speaker 4: in the City of New York. So if you don't
- 4:24Speaker 4: want to do that, you're not the mayor. Okay, you
- 4:27Speaker 4: don't represent your ideological base, represent eight million New york As.
- 4:30Speaker 4: You're idiots.
- 4:32Speaker 1: But he's in charge, man, and he's making changes, and
- 4:36Speaker 1: you know, things are happening that I think are scary.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Some want a discount that, oh he's smarter. He's part
- 4:42Speaker 1: of a very small percentage. The dsay the Communists, and
- 4:46Speaker 1: I disagree. May They may be small in numbers, but
- 4:48Speaker 1: they seem to be popping up and winning in just
- 4:51Speaker 1: about every blue state across the country, just about every
- 4:54Speaker 1: sanctuary of state. I think it's a real big problem.
- 4:57Speaker 1: Trump campaigned against it in twenty twenty. But these people
- 5:01Speaker 1: are winning. So you say he's not the mayor. Oh,
- 5:04Speaker 1: he's a mayor, all right, And I believe he and
- 5:07Speaker 1: these other DSA condidates have their site set on even
- 5:11Speaker 1: bigger offices, maybe Senate, maybe one day change the constitution
- 5:15Speaker 1: and run for president. That is not completely out of
- 5:18Speaker 1: the question.
- 5:20Speaker 4: No, it's not's it? And it is a little scary.
- 5:22Speaker 4: Looks where we're New Yorkers, you and I. I don't
- 5:25Speaker 4: anymore New Yorkers than than us, right, I mean, we've
- 5:27Speaker 4: been here, we've grown up here, we live here, will
- 5:29Speaker 4: always be part of this fiber, right, damn right, I
- 5:31Speaker 4: don't feel I don't. I don't feel that Mondomie difference
- 5:34Speaker 4: in New York right now. I personally don't feel it. Okay,
- 5:37Speaker 4: I just don't feel it. New York still New York.
- 5:38Speaker 4: To me. It's always no no guy like Mondome is
- 5:41Speaker 4: going to change the fiber of New York City. Okay,
- 5:44Speaker 4: But you're right, you're right about certain things that he's
- 5:46Speaker 4: doing now, like you know, trying to reduce our police force.
- 5:50Speaker 4: My god, we already are short on cops. They're overworked,
- 5:53Speaker 4: they're underpaid, and now we're going to reduce them even more.
- 5:56Speaker 4: You know, his his, his ridiculous you know, free rent,
- 5:59Speaker 4: free food, free transportation mantra that all these idiots on
- 6:03Speaker 4: TikTok voted for and thought they were gonna get it,
- 6:05Speaker 4: and they're still waiting for their pre rent, free food
- 6:07Speaker 4: and pre transportation. I mean, you know, it's it's just
- 6:10Speaker 4: so stupid. But you're right, there's such there's so many
- 6:13Speaker 4: people out there who buy ignorance and think, hey, you know,
- 6:16Speaker 4: or they just are so miserable that they figure, hey,
- 6:18Speaker 4: let's let's be so anti authority, let's just buck the
- 6:22Speaker 4: system completely. And when you have a guy who's a socialist,
- 6:25Speaker 4: a sworn socialist, right, that's I mean, tell me what
- 6:29Speaker 4: in what country and in history when socialism has.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Never worked, It never worked, it never ever worked. And look,
- 6:36Speaker 1: you know there's a lot of people out there and
- 6:38Speaker 1: I get very upset. Oh this thing was rigged. They
- 6:41Speaker 1: flew in Muslims, they took foreign money. They have no
- 6:44Speaker 1: idea what they're talking about. He won this fair and
- 6:46Speaker 1: square because of all these dumb, stupid not just young people,
- 6:50Speaker 1: a lot of those Williamsburg Upper East Side, even older people,
- 6:54Speaker 1: even successful people that hate Trump. And if you hate Trump,
- 6:58Speaker 1: you didn't vote for Curtis because he's a clown and
- 7:01Speaker 1: he was a.
- 7:01Speaker 2: Quote unquote Republican.
- 7:03Speaker 1: He didn't vote for Cuomo because all you heard was
- 7:05Speaker 1: Cuomo and Trump were talking all the time, and you
- 7:09Speaker 1: hated what Cuomo did to the state. So if you
- 7:11Speaker 1: hated Trump because Mam Donnie didn't run against Sliwa, he
- 7:14Speaker 1: didn't run against Cuomo. He ran against Trump. And in
- 7:17Speaker 1: this city, that's a win.
- 7:21Speaker 4: Your twin. But little did they know Trump now loves Monday.
- 7:24Speaker 4: So apparently I don't know somehow you.
- 7:27Speaker 1: Know, but you're right. I mean, he acts that way.
- 7:30Speaker 1: But yeah, I know he acts that way. But I
- 7:32Speaker 1: talked to a lot of people very.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Close to the President, as you know, and he don't
- 7:36Speaker 2: love him.
- 7:36Speaker 1: So much, but he wants him to succeed in New
- 7:38Speaker 1: York and he's spending over backwards to be nice and well,
- 7:41Speaker 1: she would stop. It's embarrassing, and I've told the President that.
- 7:44Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't agree with the President
- 7:46Speaker 1: and everything. I still love him. I hope he still
- 7:47Speaker 1: loves me, but I don't agree on everything, and the
- 7:49Speaker 1: way he treats Mam Donnie is certainly.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Something I don't agree with.
- 7:52Speaker 1: But the President did love Charlie Kirk, and a lot
- 7:55Speaker 1: of people thought that Charlie would be president. One day
- 7:58Speaker 1: he floated that idea, I think to Eric Adonald's yeah,
- 8:02Speaker 1: and you know they got vision. Should have been I
- 8:04Speaker 1: know he would have been Honey, would have been. This
- 8:06Speaker 1: whole week of preliminary hearings, I've had Donna Rattuna on
- 8:09Speaker 1: out there live in Provo, Utah Geez on box News,
- 8:12Speaker 1: and basically, I guess Joseph All this was. This week
- 8:15Speaker 1: was an exercise and making sure there's enough evidence to
- 8:18Speaker 1: bring a murder chart to Tner Robinson. And it looks
- 8:21Speaker 1: to me like they've got a mountain of evidence.
- 8:25Speaker 4: I mean, from a prosecutor's perspective, this is a dream.
- 8:29Speaker 4: I mean, this is the type of case you hope
- 8:30Speaker 4: to build. You have admissions by the defendant, you have
- 8:34Speaker 4: forensic evidence, you have vigital evidence, you have corroborating witnesses
- 8:38Speaker 4: all pointing in the same direction. Okay, so it's not
- 8:41Speaker 4: just a circumstantial case anymore. Okay, The evidence overlaps and
- 8:45Speaker 4: reinforces itself, So it's not like you just have a
- 8:48Speaker 4: confession standing alone. And it's multiple confessions, by the way,
- 8:51Speaker 4: not just confessions to the police department, confessions to his
- 8:54Speaker 4: whatever lover or whatever the hell he was, his roommate.
- 8:59Speaker 4: I don't even know what to sick called at anymore,
- 9:02Speaker 4: you know, But but anyway, you know, and then then
- 9:04Speaker 4: it's also supported by DNA evidence, surveillance evidence, phone records.
- 9:08Speaker 4: I mean, well, I was a prosecutor too. I mean,
- 9:10Speaker 4: this is just I mean, you know, you do have
- 9:12Speaker 4: to prove the case in court. This is not a trial,
- 9:14Speaker 4: and this is not a jury trial. But I gotta
- 9:16Speaker 4: tell his jurors often find emissions more persuasive than even
- 9:20Speaker 4: forensic evidence. People can argue over DNA statistics or ballistics,
- 9:23Speaker 4: but when a defendant is alleged to a repeatedly admitted
- 9:26Speaker 4: responsibility repeatedly, you know, the evidence jurists tend to weigh
- 9:31Speaker 4: heavily disa and and so it's gonna be really, really tough.
- 9:35Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you. I was curious about
- 9:37Speaker 4: this case because there's always something that felt a little
- 9:40Speaker 4: wrong to me about this. To be honest with you,
- 9:42Speaker 4: I didn't like the way that video looked like there
- 9:43Speaker 4: was a detonation on his shirt from that microphone. Yeah,
- 9:46Speaker 4: it looked like weird. It just did. I mean that
- 9:49Speaker 4: thing moved before I saw a bullet hole. I didn't
- 9:52Speaker 4: like the way his security guard jumped over the table
- 9:55Speaker 4: and didn't attempt to Charlie Kirk, but grabbed something off
- 9:57Speaker 4: the table, put in his back pocket and then ran
- 9:59Speaker 4: off the video. I mean, we've all seen that. It
- 10:02Speaker 4: makes you think something wrong happens. So there's some other
- 10:05Speaker 4: explanation than just this kid. But one thing is now
- 10:08Speaker 4: clear clapt in my mind. This kid didn't have no questions.
- 10:12Speaker 2: No questions, no question, Yeah, no question.
- 10:14Speaker 4: There's some other shenanigans going on. I don't know, but
- 10:17Speaker 4: if there were, you would think at this point Kyler
- 10:20Speaker 4: Robinson's defense team would be like, wait a minute, he
- 10:22Speaker 4: was perherst, he was forced, he was whatever, you know,
- 10:26Speaker 4: hypnotized something. So right now, I think all these conspiracy
- 10:30Speaker 4: theories are falling by the wayside, which each piece of
- 10:32Speaker 4: evidence comings. And look, I've tried murder cases my entire career,
- 10:35Speaker 4: both of the prosecutors sid and as a defense lawyer.
- 10:38Speaker 4: Cases are one when independent evidence converges and what we're
- 10:42Speaker 4: seeing here, what I've seen in these last four days
- 10:44Speaker 4: is the prosecution attempting to present multiple mutually reinforcing forms
- 10:50Speaker 4: of evidence. So ultimately the jury, not television commentators, will
- 10:54Speaker 4: decide whether that evidence proves guilty un reasonable doubt. But
- 10:57Speaker 4: here you have so many things that Hanya had on.
- 11:00Speaker 4: So the defense is going to have a real, real
- 11:03Speaker 4: tough road to I mean, they have one job great
- 11:05Speaker 4: reasonable doubt. That's what this case is gonna be about.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Well, see if they can do it.
- 11:09Speaker 2: I doubt it even if they had you.
- 11:10Speaker 1: You're beautiful. I love you. Italian people are great and
- 11:13Speaker 1: you're at the very top of the list for me.
- 11:14Speaker 1: You know that, Joseph Tacopina. So we will do this
- 11:17Speaker 1: again next week. You know, great every week. I love it.
- 11:20Speaker 2: Thank you very much. We'll talk soon.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy, Joseph Tacopina, right there, the best defense
- 11:26Speaker 1: attorney anywhere in the world, friend of mine for forty
- 11:29Speaker 1: eight years.
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