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A Total Eclipse of Milan - Ep. 221 Ft. Richard Kharman · The Calcio Guys

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  In the past few months, we've really seen melon eclipse itself. In the
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  second place in the city. You're on a clipse day, the couch of
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  guys starting off just with Iron and Johnny, joined by our good friend Richard
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  Carmon from City. I sit down, Richard. How's it going. It's
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  going well. How you guys doing. I love the eclipse themed intro there.
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  Of course, of course I had to throw it in there. Hopefully
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  nobody burned their corn yesterday. Guys, you did it all safely. We're
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  protector in darkness. Yeah, we're protection those fucking glasses. I saw them
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  all over it over the internet, all over social media, so uh yeah,
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  we hope everybody was safe with that. But happy to be cultural with
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  our our good friend Richard. Johnny will join us soon. He's just a
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  bit late. But Richard, you're also doing your shalk podcast. Shall America
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  later? So you know you're you're a busy man. You're a man of
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  manning talents many leagues, which I respect because I only follow the City.
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  I can't follow two leagues, especially for you shaltcons in second division now even
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  more respectful like that, that's insane, Like how do you keep how do
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  you how do you keep up with all this? It's hard. It's hard.
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  Uh. And and keep the marriage intact too, right, That's it's
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  a hard so, but it's doing best. Yeah, a lot of late
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  nights to tell you that, and the mind of the hour. He's here,
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  Yeah, Johnny's here now. Sorry, I uh, I got here
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  a little bit later. I was tutoring. I have to eat supper when
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  I got home. Uh, Nick, you can easily follow two leagues and
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  just be like me, follow two teams. Yeah, but it's easier when
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  they're in the same same league and they play other So yeah, the weekends
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  where they play each other, you only have one game. It's okay,
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  Richards Johnny of the podcast in the cultural world. So there you go.
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  I wish I could be at Richard's level. I always think he is the
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  goal. I taint to be just like him, low standards. Look look
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  at his beauty over here. People will listening to us on audio purposely look
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  up our YouTube clip just to see it like this, counch you guys on
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  YouTube. But let's talk to Melan. Let's jump right into it. Three
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  nothing this weekend against let cha two one win. If we're gonna go back
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  to one win against Fiorentina, three to one against UH Verona. They had
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  the win in the Europa League. They beat meanline. So it's it's what
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  I think. It's seven games now with seven seven wins in a row,
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  all comps uh. Their last draw was February twenty fifth against Atlanta, So
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  the red hot right now. We'll start off with the game on on Saturday.
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  Richard three nothing and sled you. Oh win that you know you expect
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  me like to have, but three goals is even nicer. Polistic, Jeru
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  and Layo, what did you make of it? Well, you say we
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  expected to win, but you don't know me that EASTI we don't expect to
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  win bet Lecher or anybody on the lower end. But no, it was
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  a good, good result. I thought we saw Pioli really trying, not
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  a new attacking trio with Leo, Pulisic and Cheques. Not sure how they
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  would do well. Obviously Cheques has come on of late. Pulistic and Layo
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  have been doing well all season long, and so we saw it was a
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  good They kept they kept their motors running, they kept playing really well.
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  They they blended really wealthy. You know, the passes given, go cheques
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  and Pulisic look good together. Addley, you know, came had a big
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  game as well. And you know Jerud he's a poacher. He didn't have
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  to be perfect, but he gets it, gets the goals when he gets
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  a chance. Uh, good team result. I thought the fact that they
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  kept the shutout was more was almost as impressed as the win itself. But
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  the fact that came out quickly. Yet we've seen them come against quickly against
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  Lecha the first time they played each other, right, two goals the first
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  half. What happened? They came back and let it tie it too too.
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  I think that the red card kind of helped me a lot, but
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  ultimately I thought they were a cruise control the whole game. Is it was
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  nice to see for a change. Yeah, no, I agree, Richard.
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  I mean it's uh it's a breath of fresh air. I think,
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  you know, twenty twenty four has been uh you know, a pretty positive
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  uh you know new year. If you know, if we date back all
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  the way to to then, so obviously this compliinato it is where it is
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  at this point, Uh, just kind of similar to last year. We
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  already kind of knew where you know, where the you know, the top
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  team stands in terms of not last year inter I believe there. I was
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  seeing two wins away from from that SCHULEETO, so better for us on that
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  end. But at the end of the day, I think trying to finish
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  as high as possible. Currently in second six point lead over Juve. We
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  had that stretch of games where we were able to surprise Juve and and and
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  trying to and build a bit of a cushion, which was positive. So
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  I think it's I think, you know, this game kind of encompassed,
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  you know, I guess just a good run of uh, you know,
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  just a good run of form fortune. Uh. It was. It was
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  one of those things you mentioned obviously, the big talking point in terms of
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  in the Mewan world of stuff, in terms of the new formation, well
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  not new formation, but new setup in terms of having police uh in the
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  in the ten What did you make of not only his performance today but maybe
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  as today on Saturday, but and maybe even as a whole because he's really
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  turned it on h having maybe one of the better seasons of his career.
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  What did you make of the Yeah, the new setup and how how cool
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  was it just done because as of as a as an American for yourself and
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  been a Mewan fan, this is huge, right, So yeah, just
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  your thoughts on all that. Yeah, it's funny because we hear we call
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  him Captain America, which I don't I don't understand because its not even the
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  captain of the United States US MESS national team. But uh no, I
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  thought it was great to see how he did in the in the ten role.
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  You all think when those three guys are are mentioned that Layo would be
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  really the guy who'd be the number ten, right, But you know,
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  I think Lao has done better as on the left hand side, and Pulis
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  six seems dangerous no matter what side of the pitch he's on, and so
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  I was curious to see how it would work out. And I thought he
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  played really well. Like I said, him and Chaquez, they linked up
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  very well, uh pulistic being able to kind of use the entire pitch go
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  where he where he needs to go. I thought the offense really with through
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  him. He's just picked up so much confidence this season. Obviously had a
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  down season last year at Chelsea, and he was a breath of fresh air,
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  played quick games you know, held the ball off really well when he
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  got that buff from Chiquese, did a nice move to get free and score.
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  But we've seen this all season long. It's just like Lao and and
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  Tao have nots been at their best this season, but Pulis sick has been
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  the guy who's kind of picked up the picked up the strings and gone with
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  it. And I think all the new signings have been have done well this
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  year, but Pulistic, I think it takes a cake from all of them.
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  I think Rubelofta Chica is you know, very close second there, but
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  Christal Pulistic has been done amazing job. It's good for obviously Milan to have
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  a good talent on the right hand side or now central uh to give layout
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  a little bit of a breathing room and maybe give teams another thing to think
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  about. But also in terms of you know this him overall as a player,
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  you know, he has so much potential. He is, you know,
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  in the United States, one of our our darlings really if you think
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  about it, and to see him have a resurgence and now who knows where
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  the ceilings for him, you know, if he kids been building on this,
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  if he saves Milan. The sky's the limit for this guy, so
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  I'm happy to see what he's done so far. Do you feel like as
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  if with Pulisitch being at Milan, you know, because everyone's arguing that,
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  like all, Leao has reduced in production and you know he's not. He's
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  not that star that he was a couple years ago. Last year he was
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  still really good and towards the latter half of the season. But do you
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  see it more as Leoo taking his like having struggles or more of like I
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  feel like, I feel like it's more like you're taking his foot off the
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  gas pedal. What do you like? He doesn't have that much pressure on
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  him to be the guy along with like now there's like three upfront that can
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  do it. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, yeah,
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  no, no, for sure. I think certainly the relationship between Layout and
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  Taylor Hernandez has gotten stronger than everyone was before. They can reach each other
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  so well, I mean to the last game, not this game. With
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  the game before a nice back, you'll flip from Layout like midfield to free
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  up tail for the break. Those who know each other so well, I
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  think layou now realize that he doesn't have to put everything on him. There's
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  other people on the team who can play well. Obviously, the new signings
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  have done such an amazing job. I mean, Rubeloph's cheek has done a
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  great thing for this midfield because he's got consistency, he's got grit, but
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  you can also get up there and score goals when it needs to. So
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  layou know he has leve more options now and so he can pick his moments
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  more. I think before he was running himself tired, and now he can
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  kind of pace himself on what we see in the last probably three or four
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  games. First half he kind of chills a little bit, you know,
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  he gets chances still, but then second half he turns it on. That's
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  when he usually gets his goals in the second half against the gold Insists.
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  So I think Layo's loving life. And I know that the statistics say that
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  he's probably having a down year. I don't see it really. I think
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  he's been unfortunate with his chances. He's still creating a ton of opportunities for
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  both himself and players around him. It's just not going in like it was
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  last year and the year before. So I think it's uh it's with the
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  emergence of Pulistic and some of these other players, people are starting to wonder,
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  oh yeah, his number aren't down, there should be up. But
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  no, I think the love the goal scoring has spread out so much throughout
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  the team. That's the reason why they're in second place. It's not because
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  Leo. You can't be one person on one person, one trick pony.
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  So I think I still think he's doing well this year. It's just that,
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  you know, with with the emergency of everybody else, it just seems
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  like he's that much off. And I disagree. I think he's just having
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  maybe a slightly down year, but he's still as effective as he has everbid
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  him. So, I don't know if you saw there was a little uh
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  spat today between Casano and I don't know if it was no it is you
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  didn't see it, no, no, no, but case, I guess
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  it was on his podcast or whatever. You okay, I'll look it up.
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  So he says, Leo's problem is he thinks he's a phenomenon. He's
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  a good player that has great physical strength. That's it. Ten to fifteen
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  years ago, he wouldn't have been able to play for a team fighting for
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  six to seventh place. Leo apparently responded with a bunch of clown emojis.
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  So and I don't know if that was on Instagram or whatever Twitter was on
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  Twitter, he's active on Twitter. Yeah, yeah, what do you make
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  of that? Richard? And I'd love to hear also Janny and I Giano's
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  thoughts and maybe I'll throw my thoughts to after. But you know, more
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  importantly, what do you make of that ritreat? You know, the game
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  has changed a lot in the last ten years or whatever it is. It
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  certainly has. But all these prognostications about like well, what happened to this
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  or that or this ara versus that era and any spot you talk about,
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  it's like it's pointless because the things are different. You know, Jianny,
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  we talked about hockey all the time, but all you guys actually and you
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  know, they always compare the different era Scretzky's error to the current era,
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  and it's hard to do because the game is different. If Leyau were somehow
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  to magically transformed that time period, yeah, he's probably bit small for that
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  time period, but or matched if any player now was playing in the nineties
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  and early two thousands, I mean none of those survived because all the hard
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  tackles, right. But Lao's talent is immense. Any player his talent is
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  top ten, top five for his position. I mean outside of Vinnie Junior
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  and Bappe and maybe a couple others, he is one of the most talented
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  players in the world. Is he done it doing it consistently enough to where
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  he's considered one of the best players in the world. Maybe not yet,
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  And he says that himself. He knows that if he wants to be considered
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  one of the best, one of the bellon Door candidates, he needs to
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  be more consistent in the goal scoring. He understands that, but his talent
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  is undeniable. I mean, outside of Vinnie and and Boppe's probably nobody faster
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  and more skillful than him on the ball on the leftens side, and having
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  Australia is up there as well. But yeah, you know, back then
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  it was a different game, but I'm sure he would have been his physique
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  would have been a lot different and back then too, just as the games
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  is evolved, players have been more leaner, more fitter. Technology with with
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  the training has been different as well, So I mean outside of like Zlaton
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  and Ronaldo, those guys who are just machines in the training training room.
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  I don't I don't think he would have stuck at that bad. I think
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  he is an immense talent then now anytime you can't deny his talent. So
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  yeah, I think I'm with layout a little bit of clown comments in my
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  opinion, but you know, I'm curious what you guys think. Yeah,
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  no, I mean, listen, I saw the video. It was it
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  was going around big time on on Twitter, at least on my feed,
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  wisten to had to say and listen, leave it to Cassano to say something
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  controversial, to say something off the walls, you know, something that everybody's
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  gonna stir the pot, you know that, just you know the character that
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  he is. And again, I don't really dislike Cassano, and like I
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  remember the Bubble TV days, like he used to say things that were like
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  against the green and like nobody would agree with him. But at the same
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  time, if you really dig deep some there's some truth to it. So
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  does he have maybe like search some point into what he's trying to say.
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  I think he's just trying to like get the clicks and and it's and it's
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  the way he's phrasing it isn't entirely correct because listen, I think, like
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  you said, Richard lew is a talent. Uh, it's unfortunate that he's
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  still off the pace of where he should be. I think the consistency,
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  like you mentioned, the goal scoring, uh, you know, at the
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  consistent level is lacking because you know, but you know, on this Mealan
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  team, he's one of, if not the most important and best player on
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  the team. Right, So you know, clown comment, I agree.
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  You know, I think it's funny because uh, he was a he was
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  a talent, uh, you know, coming out of the body and you
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  know he went to Real Madrid and the best thing he was known for for
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  that time period was the jacket he was wearing at the presentation, right.
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  So it's it's unfortunate. You know, he had a career that was you
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  know, had so much high, high hopes, expectations, not always delivered.
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  Didn't win myn but great, great, great player at the end.
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  Do I dislike Casano you know as as a person? No? Does he
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  does he go off grid? Absolutely? Is there some truth maybe in in
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  what he's trying to say? Possibly. I just don't think he's phrasing it
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  away. People want to wanna want to hear it, because as a fan,
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  if you're a mean fan, if you're a fan of the Way Out
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  Portrait, your Portuguese whatever, you're obviously gonna defend and gonna wanna, you
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  know, gonna wanna you know, take offense to two comments like that.
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  So I think he has more than what he said. I think, you
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  know, he's just he's just a physical specimen and that that's it. I
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  think there's obviously more to that. The skill on this guy when he's on
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  form, but again it's it's that when he is on his game is I
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  think, still the thing that's not up to up to you know, that
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  forty class type of level of a player. So yeah, it was just
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  something that I saw and I was again not really really shocked, you know,
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  coming from so but at the same time, it's, you know,
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  it gets us talking about it, right, So there's I guess there's something
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  that you know, some meat into into the in the in the in the
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  comments. But I don't know, Johnny Neck, I don't know if you
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  guys saw it or had anything to say to it or to it, but
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  well I only saw bits and pieces of it from you know, like interacting
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  like on the internet and stuff and seeing people react to it. So yeah,
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  what I take from that is that so Cassano and Leo play played more
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  or less the same position throughout his career when he was active. Both have
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  won a squad at the Wamlan Cassano We've argued and mentioned time and time again.
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  Cassano is one of those guys where he had so much potential and so
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  much talent, and there was times where he foolishly squandered it away. And
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  Leao is an extremely talented individual, extremely talented the man when he wants to
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  turn it on, he he could dominate a game like Casano was able to
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  do back in the day. So there is a bit of a chip in
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  his shoulder because I think Cassano probably sees le out play and probably sees a
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  bit of himself and sees the fact that, you know, that could have
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  been him, that could have been obviously, you know, he would have
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  been past his age of retirement. But more or less, it's like,
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  you know, that's that's what he was, or what he could have been,
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  or the squandered potential that that he messed up from time and time again.
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  So for him, it's like it's a reflection of himself, of what
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  he can have been. And I think it might have caused like a bit
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  of a chip on his shoulder, a little bit of like a thorn in
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  his side, so common like that. As you said before, Adri,
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  you kind of see where it's coming from. Where it's like, yeah,
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  you know, like league isn't as tough as it was back then, but
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  nonetheless, you know, you still need to produce, and Leo has produced.
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  He's not at his top form, but it's not as if he's playing
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  horribly either. You know where he's invisible. You know, he's already tied
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  his career high and assists. I believe in City with eight. If I'm
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  not mistaken, I could be wrong in that fact. Mada milini'st somebody please
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  fact check me on that. But you know, he's not scoring as much
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  as he used to. But as we mentioned before the question prior to this,
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  the load's not on him. He's not the one that's like the offense
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  doesn't primarily go through him compared to you know, like Jerud for example.
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  You know that's that's the point, dude, your striker. So I think
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  this culminates in the fact that Cassano, he probably didn't word it properly.
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  He is a bit of he is being a bit spiteful. He is trying
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  to get a bit of attention because he's a media personality now and you know
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  he needs to create some form of controversy or attention. It's it's it's journalism,
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  one on one. So I think the clown response is perfectly merited because
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  you know, I was young. He uh, he has that he wants.
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  He doesn'tant to show that he's a pushover. And you know what,
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  I like it because like what sucks is that, like I'm not trying to
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  make it like a whole racial thing or whatever, but it's like, you
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  know, like how people want like like like the whole like, uh was
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  it Nicolo Conte like he's he's he's like because he's kind of quiet, whereas
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  you know, like players a little bit more outspoken that are of a certain
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  skin color, you know, they get they already get like predefined as they
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  have attitude, they have issues and stuff, you know, or like all
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  they're problematic, you know, just because they show a bit of flair.
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  You know, like like what happened to Pogba in his career Man United.
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  You know, the guy was one of the most talented individuals, and every
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  time he showed a bit of character or a bit of pizazz, you know,
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  people just you know, like moment the moment that he didn't produce,
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  they use that against him. So I'm with Leaw on this. You know,
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  don't don't don't don't take that on your back, you know, like,
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  don't take that lying down. You know, like if he's gonna make
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  an insult about you, call him out on it. Because Cazzano's the kind
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  of guy that, uh, you don't have to worry about, call him
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  and out on it. You know, people know that he likes to say
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  controversial shit, So be controversial back. I think it's fully merited. Sorry
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  for the long runt, But I think Asanda likes it when you come back
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  at him too, because he's like, Okay, I respect you now because
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  I called you out and you come back at me. You've seen a bubble
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  TV all the time and where the guys do that to call him back.
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  He's like, a yeah, I like that. I think also just it,
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  you know, like like Johnny said, it's it's for clicks, you
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  know, it's it's click journalism. Whatever. At the end of the day,
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  that's his job. Now. His job isn't to score goals anymore.
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  His job is to gain interaction on social media. The first part of the
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  quote, you know, he thinks he's a phenomenal, phenomenal player. He's
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  a good player that has great physical strength. Sure, you know that's his
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  opinion. That's fine. But where he brings in the era stuff like Richard
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  said, like it's a bit too much. Like, let's be real,
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  the guys now, the way they train, as you said, Richard,
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  I don't think the guys back then would be able to survive, especially the
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  amount of games that the players play now. I don't see I don't see
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  Cassano surviving today. Sure he might have the talent, but geez, these
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  guys are are pushed to the limits. Like the reason why it's sometimes if
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  we think that players now aren't as tough as players then and sometimes they have
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  these little injuries that leave them out for a game or two, is also
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  because they play so many more games, especially with the national team, with
• 20:07
  all these extra competitions, where sometimes they just need a rest and and that's
• 20:11
  totally fine. And we also have more more science, more data to back
• 20:15
  up. Okay, if a guy who's at ninety percent, let him sit
• 20:18
  for one game and then he's gonna be one hundred percent in the game after.
• 20:21
  Anyways, that's a long it's a long tangent about that, but it's
• 20:27
  an interesting quote. I mean, we're talking about here North America. Everyone
• 20:33
  knows who Casino. If you still follow Caltro, even if you didn't really
• 20:37
  see Cassano play, you still know who he is. You know he's he's
• 20:41
  upon it. That's his job exactly. But Melan is going to be back
• 20:48
  in Europa League this week, Roma on Thursday three pm. I mean,
• 20:53
  I think this is perfect now that we have you and Johnny on to tee
• 20:57
  this game up. Unless there's other things you wanna talk or ask about.
• 21:02
  You drown for Citi. Uh well, I mean it's just maybe more like
• 21:07
  Milan specific, but again maybe before No, actually I could say it Froft.
• 21:11
  It doesn't matter. We can, we can, we can go ahead
• 21:15
  Melon Roma. We've we've talked about this game ever since the draws announced.
• 21:21
  We're excited for it. Any time there's two Italian teams in a draw.
• 21:23
  Obviously for Melon it's not it's not the derby like last year in the Champions
• 21:27
  League, but it's still something. What what can you make of it,
• 21:32
  Richard, Well, you said it. It's not the derby, so it's
• 21:34
  a little bit easier for Adreana and myself. But no, I mean,
• 21:38
  you know, it's still a difficult game. Especially Roma under de Rossi has
• 21:44
  been a different beast. I think with Mourinho, you yes, it's always
• 21:47
  been difficult because they played defense, but you know what to expect with when
• 21:51
  with de Rossi you're still not quite sure what they're gonna do. You know,
• 21:52
  more attack minded, which has composed difficulties, especially with Milan's defense not
• 21:57
  being the greatest this year. It poses, it poses a good threat,
• 22:02
  and I think they both teams for the most part, equal each other out.
• 22:06
  I think, you know, if you look positioned by position, Milan's
• 22:08
  got a slight advantage and goalkeeper defense might be a wash really because you never
• 22:14
  know what kind of melanin you're gonna get in thing with Roma midfield, slight
• 22:17
  advantage of Milan and then attacking. Both attacking teams are fantastic. I mean,
• 22:21
  Debala is just as good as anybody else. You know, when he's
• 22:22
  on, he's on. We saw what he did in Conference League and Europa
• 22:26
  League in past two seasons, so he can still dictate games very well.
• 22:30
  And so this poses a tricky game. And I think who's home first?
• 22:33
  Roma home first? For Milan, that's a good question. I don't even
• 22:37
  know myself, it's it's me, okay, I think, oh, yeah,
• 22:41
  it is Milan, and I think it's important. Milan doesn't need a
• 22:45
  win, but I think it's important because this Roma team at home are very
• 22:49
  very good under de ROSSI with that crowd seeing Roma Roma Roma, it's it's
• 22:55
  a daunt team plays. Maybe it's not Liverpool, but it's it's certainly a
• 22:57
  difficult place to play. And I think Milan would feel so much better about
• 23:02
  themselves. I would feel much better as a fan if they walked away with
• 23:06
  a win, even if it's just if it's the one goal advantage, because
• 23:07
  you go there in a draw, anything can happen in a one game setting.
• 23:11
  Uh and Roma are more than capable, as just as good as anybody
• 23:15
  else to take off somebody on one in one game. Milan, I do
• 23:18
  think is the better of the two teams, but that doesn't mean anything over
• 23:21
  two legs, and so yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be absolutely difficult.
• 23:26
  Ken you know, for Milan's side of things, how do they handle
• 23:27
  Lucaco. He's predominantly dominated the defense defenses that Milan's had over the years when
• 23:33
  he's played against them. And then you know, Depaula is the X factor
• 23:36
  of Pellegrini has just come in to another level under de Rossi. Uh,
• 23:40
  and then it's just this whole team is playing so much better now. I'm
• 23:44
  I'm actually you know, scared to see you know, El Shaanawi come down
• 23:48
  because he's gotten so much better too as well. And just because you have
• 23:51
  a chance to going to a penalty shootouts, feel r he showed how good
• 23:53
  he is at stopping penalties. He's a good shot blocker as well. The
• 23:56
  team, the confidence in Roma has with the Rossi but also spiel Ar that
• 24:02
  changed moving to Spilar instead of Ruy Patricio has been night and day for them,
• 24:04
  and you can just see the team is more confident defensively. Bencini's more
• 24:08
  brash. It was hard to say, right, he's a brash guy,
• 24:11
  but he's more Matarazi like than he was before. Right, So, uh
• 24:14
  no, I think this is uh, this is gonna be difficult to ask
• 24:17
  for Milan. Absolutely, it's gonna be it's gonna be tight over two legs.
• 24:22
  I agree, you can go ahead though, uh plenty has been said
• 24:26
  already. It's it's still like, uh, you know, surprising me a
• 24:33
  bit that you know under that Assie, you know, we see new like
• 24:37
  Bean Roma. Uh the win against Latsie was was huge. That's something that
• 24:44
  shouldn't be uh you know, like not like understated, like it should be
• 24:48
  mentioned that that's their first derby win and like I think two years years,
• 24:53
  Yeah, yeah, it's two years at least, and uh, you know
• 25:00
  every player has just immensely improved under that Aussie. Uh how long is this
• 25:06
  high gonna go? We don't know, but he's definitely going to carry it
• 25:08
  as much as you can. And if it lasts into the Europa League,
• 25:12
  then that's fantastic, especially against a good quality Milan. You know, it's
• 25:18
  it's it's it's not gonna be anything. It's not gonna be a blowout.
• 25:21
  It's definitely going to be a like it's definitely going to be like a challenge.
• 25:26
  It's definitely gonna be a tight, a tight one. But seeing what
• 25:30
  Puoli did Tonopoly last year and being able to dismantle them and break them down
• 25:34
  so easily in the span of a month he beats somewhere four or five times.
• 25:37
  Like, I feel like as if Poli still has that capacity to take
• 25:44
  an inexperience that O's see. You know, he's got like some lower level
• 25:47
  experience, but it's still an experience in city. Yeah, I feel like
• 25:49
  Puoli might have a tactic up his sleeve or two to really capitalize on the
• 25:56
  on the matchup. Like last year, one thought Anopoly Bene Champions League ground
• 26:00
  was gonna be tough, and you know, Milan exposed not play on the
• 26:03
  counter attack as he he knew that, you knew that outside of Kim,
• 26:07
  you know who's going to really defend on the on the press, but on
• 26:11
  the on the counter attack. I'm not saying that at Oma, Like it's
• 26:17
  not the same back line, right, but still like you know, like
• 26:19
  he he definitely will try to find something as much as people just like Poli,
• 26:23
  I think he he still finds like he manages to squeeze water out of
• 26:29
  stone sometimes he still manages to find a way to do that, and yeah,
• 26:33
  it's frustrating, you know, like MILANISTI this year getting fed up in
• 26:34
  anoid of him, like I'm still in second place, you know, and
• 26:37
  and second place to a very very top inter side. It's like it's you
• 26:42
  can't get mad at him. It's like it's just that team top to bottom
• 26:45
  has been a well oiled machine, you know. It's like without any hitches,
• 26:49
  and that we've sent it many times, many times, many times,
• 26:52
  any times. Sometimes the teams that would say, yeah, it's just a
• 26:53
  team that's never injured, never having any issues, never have any fallbacks behind
• 26:57
  the scenes, it's a team that usually just has everything going well for them.
• 27:00
  And this year that's that team is in the that team is in it.
• 27:03
  They have no issues, no no hitches, no bumps along the along
• 27:07
  the road. It's that's what it is for them. So it's not something
• 27:11
  that should be taken lightly. I think it's gonna be a very very tight
• 27:15
  one. If it happens to be a blowout, it's because somebody made a
• 27:18
  mistake somewhere and they just like it just it's an anomaly. Yeah, yeah,
• 27:23
  one thing, one thing I'll say is that you know, going into
• 27:26
  the going into the game the first the first game, you know, both
• 27:30
  these teams are hot, right, you know, Roma coming up, coming
• 27:36
  out after the debut win, huge Mewan, the Big three, the three
• 27:41
  nil shutouts, Queen shoot against Leo, who gave Roma trouble just a week
• 27:45
  ago, just a week prior. So both teams are going in they're hot.
• 27:49
  I think both teams have you know, some sort of experience in Europe,
• 27:55
  especially as of late. You know, obviously not under did ass for
• 27:59
  Roma, but still I think that the team has pretty much stayed the same.
• 28:03
  They know, they know what it takes to to make a run,
• 28:07
  if it be you know, Conference league or or in this case, Europa
• 28:11
  League. You know, me one has that that. You know that European
• 28:15
  DNA Champions League. They've they've done you know well in in in Europa.
• 28:22
  So I'm excited. I think I think goals will be scored. It's it's
• 28:26
  just a matter of you know, what team is gonna come out on top.
• 28:30
  I don't think it's I don't want to say it's like just a complete
• 28:33
  toss up, because I think there are you know, points that you can
• 28:36
  make either direction, But I'm excited. I I know, obviously on this
• 28:41
  show there's two different representations with myself and Johnny, so it's gonna always be
• 28:45
  fun. But you know, one Italian team is going to make a pass
• 28:48
  to the semifinals. So I'm excited. I think it's it's it's gonna be
• 28:55
  it's gonna be two good, two good games. And you know what,
• 28:59
  I think it's even if whoever comes out on the losing end of this,
• 29:02
  I think, uh, it's still experience, you know, for these for
• 29:06
  these players, for this, for the for the projects that are being that
• 29:08
  are being at at hand with with both Roma and and Melan. So I
• 29:15
  think as Mewan fans, we want more and expect more just from the overall
• 29:19
  expectations going into this season. And that's no, that's no described to to
• 29:25
  what Roma was expecting this season. But I think if they were to lose,
• 29:30
  if if there were to be a hiccup in this, in this matchup,
• 29:33
  I think Melon fans would would be a bit more distasteful then then than
• 29:37
  Roma fans just seeing, you know, what what we want, what we
• 29:41
  want to get to, uh, the expectations, the uh you know,
• 29:45
  as a whole, so again excited. I think the top players need to
• 29:48
  be top and uh, you know, obviously made the best the best team
• 29:52
  win and let it be me one after this, Uh, two games against
• 30:00
  Rome April eleventh, April eighteenth is the derby, which is Monday, I
• 30:04
  think is twenty second Monday and football. We talked about it last week.
• 30:10
  I gotta ask you, Richard, if you can only have fun so we
• 30:15
  talked. You know, Jenny mentioned the Rome derby were allowed too dominated the
• 30:19
  past few seasons. Uh, it's kind of going in into his way,
• 30:22
  at least the past year where they played each other a lot me line and
• 30:26
  enter it's one win for me line in the past seven games, I believe.
• 30:32
  So if you could have only one win, either advancing against Rome and
• 30:37
  Europa League or beating Inter Incidia, which would it be this season or any
• 30:41
  year? Just this this this week, like this this month, this month,
• 30:48
  you could you could answer that too. After For me this season,
• 30:53
  I would take the win over Rome and move on to the semifinals because the
• 30:56
  Escudetto's lot gone long gone. I know, Oh it's inter and you want
• 31:00
  to beat them, but that's the other thing. It'll be it'll just be
• 31:04
  a celebration of one game. Uh, They're still going to win the champions.
• 31:07
  They're still going to school that though. So you know, you beat
• 31:11
  that game, but you still finished second place. If you're lucky and you're
• 31:14
  out of you go out to Europa League, you're you're out of a manager
• 31:15
  more than likely. I I like what Pioli is doing. I think he
• 31:21
  needs to and the team needs to move on into the semifinals at least.
• 31:25
  Uh, And so I think a win against Roma and moving on to the
• 31:29
  semifinals will be better for me than the Inter derby. I don't hold high
• 31:33
  hopes for the derby. I feel if the last ten games have been a
• 31:36
  lot closer, I might feel different, but they have They've been all blots,
• 31:38
  and I saw the last game has me worried and so like, yeah,
• 31:42
  it'd be nice to win against them. But most season I probably picked
• 31:45
  the Inter But this season I'm gonna go with the Roma because I think it's
• 31:49
  the importance of moving on is so great only for money, but also just
• 31:52
  for everything that so much is on the line with the Milan and and and
• 31:56
  next season as well. So that's what I'm gonna go Chris Adriana says,
• 32:00
  though, fuck yeah, now I feel like I have to go the other
• 32:04
  direction, but not because I I I do agree. The only thing that's
• 32:08
  gonna is really keeping me on defense is that with with with a loss in
• 32:14
  that game and them cinching, you know, the school that's on that game
• 32:17
  the second start, like that's gonna burn me for long, right yeah,
• 32:22
  and also right, so for sure, if you know, if it's if
• 32:25
  it's a win against Roma and advanced the Semis and maybe a draw and they
• 32:29
  don't win it on that match day, maybe that's the ideal situation. Is
• 32:34
  obviously a win in both is what we want. But yeah, no,
• 32:37
  I was Richard who said it, right, I think uh not like you
• 32:43
  said, the financials UH is huge, not obviously Champions League money, but
• 32:49
  still something that we need uh to to continue in terms of you know,
• 32:54
  reinvestment and and and what what's the whole next season? And yeah, man,
• 33:00
  like like I just said, just prior to the question, prior,
• 33:04
  you know, just the expectations of this season were so high. I mean,
• 33:07
  at the very least we need to we need to get to the semi
• 33:10
  finals, if not the europe Weak Final, winning it all would be I
• 33:15
  think, really really a cool moment for them. So yeah, the progression
• 33:19
  in Europa, I think is the logical answer the the hardcore uh you know,
• 33:27
  Correro Sono answer I think is to be is to beat the in there,
• 33:30
  uh, you know, in the debut. But maybe you know,
• 33:36
  win against win against Roma, you know, maybe take out Hakan and uh
• 33:40
  and I'll be and I'll be good. Uh. I know. We do
• 33:47
  have one question on social media, but it's about the so we can save
• 33:52
  that for the end. So yeah, I know you mentioned before you had
• 33:55
  some Mellon questions. Yeah, I just wanted to you know, we we've
• 34:00
  we haven't spoken you know, uh in depth mealon in a while. Obviously
• 34:02
  having you on Richard as a as a free hardcore fan, it's it's always
• 34:07
  good to hear other perspective because if I only listen to what's in my what's
• 34:10
  in the meal and con control what's that chat, I think that we're all
• 34:14
  going to go crazy. So, you know, obviously a big talking point
• 34:20
  in the Melan verse, and I have always said it since he since he
• 34:23
  got appointed manager. It was this whole POI in POI out. Obviously we
• 34:30
  had this stint, the time, the time period where Poli was on fire
• 34:34
  and we're all going crazy. But just to bring it back maybe a bit
• 34:37
  more to reality. And I liked what Johnny said earlier because I do,
• 34:40
  you know, feel pretty similar in terms of what he's been able to do
• 34:45
  and with the squad, with the cards he's been dealt. I think,
• 34:50
  even though we don't like everything and he's not a perfect manager by any stretch
• 34:52
  of the imagination, there could we have asked really for much more per se
• 35:00
  certainly instances. Yes, I think as a whole it's hard to really say
• 35:02
  that we should have been flying in Europe, in the stadiaut, we should
• 35:07
  have been flying in Champions League. By these are maybe a bit unrealistic things.
• 35:12
  So ultimate Richard, the question to you, you know, going into
• 35:15
  next season is it is it? Is it out? Where do you win?
• 35:20
  Well? You talk about the WhatsApp group, I'm in the Milan Club
• 35:22
  DC chat and it's probably strong just just strong statements there. Uh So,
• 35:28
  No, it's funny with Milan fans, it's like and it's probably maybe just
• 35:31
  this generation. I guess where we're at now. But all Milan, you
• 35:35
  see, I'm sure all your all club teams. Fans are like this as
• 35:38
  well, but they want they want a Champions League, win Scudetto every year.
• 35:42
  That I was like, how realistic is that? Like it doesn't really
• 35:45
  happen. When Milan or winning Champions League, they were finishing third and fourth
• 35:49
  in the in the Scudetto race. When they want to Scudetto, they didn't
• 35:51
  win the Champions League. And so you know, I've I've been around,
• 35:54
  I've seen this, and so I have this experience and I'm like, you
• 35:57
  know what, I understand that it's not going to be not gonna win everything
• 36:00
  every year. It's not possible unless you're playing unless you have the money of
• 36:04
  like Real Madrid or PSG or something like that, then you can do it.
• 36:07
  But we don't. And am I Peolian or Polio. It's it's interesting
• 36:12
  with this guy. Uh. I was always on the fence with with Pioli
• 36:16
  at the beginning, but he won me over and I became a Peolian guy.
• 36:21
  I know, Frank and Sabrina and many others and Lisa, they were
• 36:22
  all like, oh yeah, Pioli in from the beginning. I had to
• 36:25
  be convinced, uh, and I was convinced. Winning the Scudetto was fantastic
• 36:30
  with a team that they had. It wasn't the greatest team, it wasn't
• 36:32
  necessarily the best team, but they he got every he squeezed every bit of
• 36:37
  juice out of that orange that year and they won. Uh And he's gotten
• 36:39
  better every year, and I think, like Giohanny said, in big games,
• 36:43
  he's pulled the Italian masterclass out, especially in the big European nights.
• 36:46
  He has and has it always been easy for him, No, because we've
• 36:51
  had groups of death several times over under his reign. But he's found ways
• 36:54
  to get you know, make make the most out of it. And you
• 36:58
  know, last year's going to semi finals and losen to Inter, there's no
• 37:00
  shame of that. Inter had played really well in the finals. And I
• 37:06
  think this year was always gonna be. It's every year it's been difficult for
• 37:08
  him, but I think the fact that guys like Zlaton and company were always
• 37:13
  behind him and the teams behind him. You see how much a team is
• 37:15
  behind him. Everybody comes out for Poli when when they go out, when
• 37:20
  they go after him, and so I am certainly a Poli in guy.
• 37:23
  However, you know there was a lowless season the second half of the season
• 37:29
  where everywhere everybody's going against Poli for the most part, and we it looked
• 37:35
  making top four look look like all it looked like it wasn't. We weren't
• 37:37
  so sure for a while, and now we're it's very secure, but it's
• 37:40
  not. I don't know if it's good enough. I mean, Milans are
• 37:44
  saying now that oh, if we play, if he was a better coach,
• 37:46
  we would be that we would be fighting with inter neck and neck like
• 37:50
  Inter his historic this year, it's it's hard to compete to gets into this
• 37:52
  year. They're like you've a several years ago or even monopoly last season.
• 37:55
  It's hard to compete against that. Notwithstanding though I think think we did lose
• 38:00
  some opportunities because of how he managed the games. And so unless they win
• 38:05
  Europa League, I don't know. It's my Originally a month ago, maybe
• 38:08
  two months ago, I said, if he doesn't win Europa League, they
• 38:12
  didn't make Tough four, he's out. And now I'm kind of leaning the
• 38:15
  back a little because I've appreciated this run, the seven game run that we've
• 38:17
  one or whatever it is, and so I still want to see a Europa
• 38:22
  League title, it'd be nice, but I'm more comfortable with him coming back
• 38:25
  next season. He's just uh, the injuries is what set us back,
• 38:32
  I think. And can you blame him, sure you could, but it's
• 38:35
  a lot of things in the factor. We know that the great Milan lab
• 38:37
  has produced many injuries throughout the year, so it's not all on Poli.
• 38:42
  So it's uh, it's it's an interesting one with Poli, but yeah,
• 38:45
  I'm Peoli and I think it's hard for me not to be. It's tough.
• 38:49
  It's tough because I think, you know, it's for me. It's
• 38:53
  like we really want to restart again. Uh, you know, we've we've
• 38:58
  I think he's been like a I don't want to say the longest tenured obviously
• 39:02
  mean coach, but like as of late, like he's been uh you know,
• 39:07
  coaching Milan for you know, quite a long time in terms of what
• 39:09
  we've seen in the past. So I like that they still fight for him.
• 39:15
  I don't think he's per se lost lost the locker room as we've seen
• 39:19
  in other in other cases with other teams and other and other managers. But
• 39:23
  there definitely could be more, uh, you know, that that we should
• 39:28
  expect, that we should that we should be at. But at the same
• 39:30
  time, I think he's brought us things that we haven't been seen or touched
• 39:35
  in in quite some time, obviously being being that reaching getting into Champions League,
• 39:42
  you know, progressing out of the group, you know, getting to
• 39:44
  a semi final. Uh, you know, the things we hadn't unfortunately seen
• 39:47
  in in in our banter era years. Right, So has he been perfect,
• 39:53
  like I said, no, But at the same time, it's kind
• 39:57
  of like where do we go next? Who's who's real list? Stick like
• 40:00
  who? Like, where are we going to go with this project? You
• 40:04
  know, I'm gonna I'm gonna lean to at least another season, I think,
• 40:09
  even though it is tough for me to say that because obviously you want
• 40:13
  change and you want progression, and I think besides last year where there was
• 40:15
  that lull, you know, he's he's kind of really on par of in
• 40:21
  terms of points currently. I think with the school that the winning year.
• 40:23
  Unfortunately, it's just one of these years where where Inter's having was having a
• 40:28
  run and having a great year. Just like you said, like Nap the
• 40:30
  last season, nobody was able to touch them or catch them playing you know,
• 40:34
  beautiful football, the depth, you know, the the aura, everything
• 40:37
  just aligned. It's unfortunate because that's a direct rivel for me on so it
• 40:42
  stings. But at the same time, you know, they're in second place.
• 40:45
  They they weren't. It wasn't a comfortable position maybe a couple of months
• 40:52
  ago. Uh, now we're kind of eking closer to, you know,
• 40:55
  securing top four, potentially second place. Obviously, still seven games to play,
• 41:01
  and there's a tough you know, tough teams behind them, so there's
• 41:05
  no there's no you know, take the foot off the gas. But you
• 41:08
  know it for me with it's very tricky because he doesn't have the pedigree as
• 41:15
  you know obviously like a Clop or an Anti or a past. He has
• 41:19
  a ceiling. He has a ceiling. He has a ceiling, right,
• 41:21
  so you know, can he ever break that? I don't think so,
• 41:25
  because that is, like you said, his ceiling. So but at the
• 41:29
  same time, like I don't know, I'm on the fence, I'm gonna,
• 41:32
  I'm gonna, I'm gonna stick with the p in for one more year,
• 41:35
  even though I know, you know, my my miancle Montreal level members
• 41:39
  and fans are are probably burning listening to that, But I just we need
• 41:45
  to be really like realistic at the end, at the end of the day.
• 41:49
  Right, So you know, as much as people want to tagot did
• 41:52
  Z be this guy, that guy you know, a colop Oh yeah,
• 41:58
  when Pep you know, we'ves mine said, he's gonna come to me.
• 42:00
  Guys like, we have to be realistic at the same time, So to
• 42:05
  try to be as realistic as possible, I think the only way to go
• 42:08
  currently as we stand right now April eight, twenty twenty four, is with
• 42:13
  POI. So that doesn't really excite many people when we say that, But
• 42:17
  I think at the same time, currently un why something were to change and
• 42:22
  really be concrete and we see evidence of something else, some other manager that
• 42:27
  can bring us to that next level, I think we don't really have much
• 42:30
  more to go off of than just dreaming for you know, an Ancholotti type
• 42:35
  of type of manager. And it's funny too, because so many people want
• 42:39
  to Poli out during the season and they said, oh, we need to
• 42:42
  get them out because the season needs to be survived. Yeah Giohanni ear muffs.
• 42:46
  But look what happened Anopoly, right, they got a new manager,
• 42:50
  and they got worse right twice, and so that could have happened to me.
• 42:53
  Lan, there's no guarantee you these thinks that we see more times often
• 42:55
  than that when you bring in a manager mid season it doesn't work out.
• 42:59
  It's very few times when it does happen. And so like the season kind
• 43:02
  of got much worse, you know how we did make a move and brought
• 43:05
  whoever in and maybe we're not even looking at the top four at all,
• 43:07
  and now we're looking at a considerably strong second position at the moment. So
• 43:12
  yeah, no, I totally agree, totally agree. So you guys had
• 43:15
  a question, I think, yeah, Well what I wanted to ask was
• 43:19
  what are your thoughts on the remaining top four race? So I think we
• 43:22
  can say that one is a lock. Two is very I want to say
• 43:28
  secured, but it's it's it's pretty, it's there itself. You know,
• 43:35
  how does the house three four looking for you, Richard? Is you think
• 43:37
  it stays the same. You think we can see some cute, cute ships
• 43:40
  in there. You might see a surprise does belong young? Yeah, it's
• 43:47
  hard. I know you've Teenie will tell you and and nick name you can
• 43:51
  you know, you can counter this, but I think You've is fairly comfortable
• 43:53
  in the top four despite you know, the ups and downs that they've had
• 43:57
  recently. For me, it's Bologna's Bologna, hold on to it. I
• 44:00
  think it'd be a fantastic story for Bologna. Maybe Mota pulls a Shabbi Alonzo
• 44:05
  and stays there for one more season, who knows, gives us another chance,
• 44:07
  right for next to the season after. But the question is Roma,
• 44:12
  can they do it? I think Atalanta have, They've shown glimpses of top
• 44:15
  four quality, but then they pull a kaliay, you know, like this
• 44:19
  weekend and then lose that. Monopoli have not been good enough for lots.
• 44:22
  You have not been good enough, and no one else right, So it's
• 44:24
  for me Roma Roma Can they dethron Bologna. I don't know if they play
• 44:28
  each other down the stretch here, but that's gonna be the race. And
• 44:31
  the question is does Bologna how do they do? And and with the limelight
• 44:37
  on them, Roma will be fine in the limelight. They seem to do
• 44:39
  well that kind of stuff. Bologna they've never been here before, not really,
• 44:43
  not a long time, and so how will they with all this pressure,
• 44:45
  all the pressure on Yoga Moota and company, can they keep producing results
• 44:51
  down the stretch. I don't know about that. I think it's gonna get
• 44:53
  tight. I mean, if I was a Betty Man, I'd probably bet
• 44:55
  Roma top four just because of their their pedigree, but it would be amazing
• 45:00
  story below your captain. So I think it comes down to two teams.
• 45:04
  And if you're if you're holding a gun to my head right now to pick
• 45:07
  a team, I would say Roma just get it at the end. I
• 45:10
  think. I think also with the whole potential five teams naked into into Champions
• 45:16
  League is another factor in that. Again, I don't know if you guys
• 45:20
  know, like when when do we know that for sure? Nick? You
• 45:24
  know, I want to say, I think it might be after this,
• 45:29
  you know season, after the Champions League, Group League, Conference League might
• 45:31
  be based on points. I really don't know. Like I see some people
• 45:36
  sometimes on social media, they're like, you know, it's all about the
• 45:39
  coefficient. You know, they're cheering for teams in the last round the Champions
• 45:44
  League and doing the calculations, and it's like for me, it's like,
• 45:46
  Okay, we'll find out something. Yeah, I've heard we've been collecting like
• 45:50
  a lot of points and obviously we're leading that and all the signs are from
• 45:53
  what I'm reading and seeing on online and through other sources, is that,
• 45:58
  you know, it's all pointing towards us getting that fifth spot in Italy.
• 46:00
  So Italy and England it's two it's two countries that are up for fifth spot.
• 46:04
  So Italy has the first spot, in England are holding the second spot
• 46:07
  at the moment. Germany is still in the mix, and obviously Spain as
• 46:10
  well. But it looks like Italy and England at the moment, which would
• 46:13
  be great for us because I think Roman and Bologne are in if that's the
• 46:15
  case. But yeah, yeah, who knows. Yeah, I think that's
• 46:19
  another thing to kind of, you know, you know, take into consideration.
• 46:22
  But I guess maybe for me, I'm gonna go against the Green.
• 46:25
  I don't know if we're gonna go around table here, I'm gonna go against
• 46:28
  the Green. I'm gonna say Bologna story. I think we've spoken a lot
• 46:32
  about them, but at the same time, you know, they really need
• 46:36
  to get their followers. I think it's not every day that we see this,
• 46:40
  especially in Italy. It's always been dominated by you know, a good
• 46:45
  set of a good set of teams. You guys know the teams. I'm
• 46:49
  not gonna start going there, but to see a surprise kind of like when
• 46:52
  we saw Nottaalanta surprise in their little stint of getting into Tough four, into
• 46:57
  like into the Champions League and doing wonders there. I'm not saying Boonie is
• 47:00
  gonna replicate that. They might get bounced like right off the bat and they're
• 47:05
  probably gonna get picked apart. So again, it's it's a lot of factors
• 47:09
  for me to see like where even if like they do get in, it's
• 47:15
  like, oh man, like if they got in and you know they're gonna
• 47:16
  get picked a part not gonna perform it in Europe was at all ways.
• 47:20
  So I don't know, I'm gonna go with them just because you know,
• 47:22
  seven games left, it's really up to them. They've kind of seemed to
• 47:28
  have for the most part. Obviously, it's not me saying this after them
• 47:31
  at drawing uh this weekend zero zero cans personalia doesn't help the cause, but
• 47:37
  I think I think as a whole their top players have stepped up. We've
• 47:40
  seen players that have come out of the woodworks that not many people were talking
• 47:45
  about. So I'm gonna stick with Boonia getting top four if it's if it
• 47:50
  only stays with obviously the four the four teams getting into Europe for Middle Neck.
• 47:57
  You well, Jane's gonna choose Rom obviously. I personally, I think
• 48:01
  Bologna. I think Roma just has a tough schedule down the stretch that we've
• 48:06
  talked about last week, you know, plus Europa League. You know,
• 48:09
  maybe they get to a point when do they play each other Nick or forget
• 48:15
  twenty second Huge day, you got one versus two and then four versus five,
• 48:22
  so you've the otta one out on that match day and on the Monday.
• 48:25
  But yeah, like I don't I don't know. I don't know Bologna's
• 48:30
  schedule. I'm just gonna look that up now. But it just seems like
• 48:34
  Roma has so many tough games. Yeah, I mean, Bologna does have
• 48:37
  Monopoly, they still have you they have the game against Roma, uh Roma.
• 48:40
  But other other than that, Genera, Trino, Udinese, un and
• 48:45
  Manza. You know, these are games that Boloona should wait. And Roma.
• 48:50
  It feels like they all their games are against tough teams because they have
• 48:54
  the Milan, they have Atlanta, Napoli, Juve, uh, uh,
• 49:00
  Bologna and then obviously these games against Milan and then Da and emply. So
• 49:07
  just based on that, I think I think Bologna it's gonna win. But
• 49:10
  look when we have this conversation in two weeks after that Bologna Roma game,
• 49:15
  it could be completely different. What what we're saying. I Uh, I
• 49:22
  think we said it well last week it's too tough to the schedule for Roma,
• 49:24
  we are, I argued vehemently, that's got a tougher schedule compared to
• 49:29
  Milan even has a tough schedule, but got a tougher one. Yeah,
• 49:34
  so to break into that that fourth place spot, uh really has to have
• 49:38
  them like be in top form the entire way, and Bologna just seems to
• 49:43
  be like getting points when they need to. Roma has been in great form.
• 49:46
  They are only three points behind, but it's uh, it's like like,
• 49:52
  yeah, you could win one and let's say they lose one, but
• 49:55
  you gotta maintain and with all that tough of all those tougher phones coming up,
• 50:00
  I don't see it likely happening. I think they just miss it.
• 50:01
  By just like just shy what I will What I will say just to add
• 50:06
  to that is I feel more confident in in this, in this roma under
• 50:10
  de Rossi. Then then maybe if we were speaking about this under the how,
• 50:14
  the how, the Modinho and the Morino era and ended because the football
• 50:19
  that they're playing is encouraging. That's why we spoke about it earlier. In
• 50:22
  terms of the europe League matchup, it's no pushover matchup. It's this is
• 50:27
  a tough, tough squad. They have top players almost across the board.
• 50:30
  So if there's if there's any if there's any kind of you know, glimpse
• 50:36
  of that, I think this this roma under de Rossi, who gives it
• 50:39
  all and he shows that green. I mean that that photo of him cheering
• 50:43
  in the video, it was just it brought back him as a player for
• 50:46
  me in my in my in my eyes. So he's transmissing, uh,
• 50:51
  transmitting that into his players, into his squad. So I think that is
• 50:54
  the one thing that's probably in their favor in terms of that. You can
• 50:59
  kind of maybe counter hold the whole that whole argument, but sorry, Richard,
• 51:02
  you're gonna saying something, Well, I was gonna s Yianni, you
• 51:06
  know, does he like in the chance? Obviously a lot depends on this
• 51:09
  Europa League tie with Milan. You know, if if Roma are not in
• 51:12
  it, it makes it a lot easier. But how do you think they're
• 51:15
  still up for the fight if they're still in Europa League in the semifinals and
• 51:19
  trying to stay in the top four, if you know that's the way the
• 51:21
  top four? I mean, because you said that, what the game's Uh?
• 51:23
  When did they play Belogna on the twenty twentieth, twenty second? Twenty
• 51:27
  second they played? They played me on the second line on the eighteenth.
• 51:30
  So that's a heck of a week for both those teams, right, both
• 51:30
  the teams have a hell of a game on the weekend, so it's gonna
• 51:34
  be interesting. But would you rather at this point, Gianni Roma, you
• 51:39
  know, by that point be in the Europe League or out of europel I
• 51:43
  guess it's a boop point because I'm sure you're sure you can say in the
• 51:45
  Europa League, Well yeah, I mean, like, uh, I'd rather
• 51:50
  than like they add the finals last year, lost penalties. I think they
• 51:52
  have they have a job to finish, and you know they might have that
• 51:59
  more of a drop more of a drive to finish that story versus the story
• 52:05
  of city. I'll get into the top four, are there? I wouldn't
• 52:08
  say that the roads, Yeah, no, if the Cody roads to the
• 52:13
  city, I would probably be uh, you know, you know what if
• 52:15
  Bologna ever makes it and wins that there, I'm trying to think of the
• 52:21
  longest drought right now, or maybe maybe Genoa at that point. You know,
• 52:24
  I don't have to get there there to get their first star ever,
• 52:27
  you know what I'm saying, to finally finish that story since the twenties,
• 52:30
  right, So yeah, but no, I I think because of what happened
• 52:36
  last year, I think they have more of a drive for Europa League,
• 52:38
  so I think they'll probably shift a bit more of attention to that. But
• 52:43
  like they're professionals, right, they always want to try to get the W
• 52:45
  no matter what. And it just seems like under Dead Aussie a lot of
• 52:49
  the players are buying it, especially the youth youth academy players, you know,
• 52:52
  like some of them being of Rome and it's like you're playing for you
• 52:55
  know, a legend of the club, right, So it's they you saw
• 53:00
  with Bove with celebrations after after the derby, you know, like the emotions
• 53:06
  are already high for all the players and stuff. There's a united passion again
• 53:09
  for the club, you know. So I feel like as if they for
• 53:16
  them, like there's an adrenaline. So well, it is a lot of
• 53:22
  games, it is. It is a lot of games, and obviously you're
• 53:24
  gonna lack at some point or another. But to see, I think they
• 53:31
  focus more on Europa than they do for City. If I have to pick
• 53:36
  one, I think it's because for them that it seems like because top four
• 53:38
  is very attainable right now, it's very attainable. But I think for them
• 53:43
  they want a bit more. I think they're eye on the prizes of the
• 53:45
  trophy. Then Austine's probably saying, hey, look whatever I can get,
• 53:47
  I can get that. Austin is just there to kind of like steer the
• 53:51
  ship to to to shore by after seven more games. But hey, if
• 53:57
  you can pick up a nice European title along the way, hey, I'd
• 54:00
  be phenomenal. I I I I'd be impressed. I'd be like, Okay,
• 54:04
  this guy's got a fantastic career ahead of him. You know, he's
• 54:07
  the one. He's they do they get Would they get more funds by getting
• 54:15
  forced spot or by like winning or advancing into like I wondered, I kind
• 54:21
  of like the way the options like I don't specifically. That's a good question
• 54:25
  because even if you win Europa League, you still get into Champions Leagues,
• 54:29
  and then you get Champions League money. Then you get more money from U
• 54:34
  or more money from them. Saying you have for finishing problem from I'm gonna
• 54:38
  get like guests, probably winning, Yeah, know how the city works and
• 54:45
  and and deals with money. Probably give them a twenty and a big good
• 54:50
  congratulations. You know, good job guys. But last time there was so
• 54:59
  sorry everyone dropping neck. Last year fourth place got fourteen point two million euros
• 55:05
  in prize money Europa League for every because also goes by wins and stuff.
• 55:12
  Right, yeah, so if make it out of the group stages, you
• 55:14
  already make three point nine eight million euros sorry dollars, so about slightly less
• 55:20
  like Vivid three point five no, not even yeah, probably about three point
• 55:24
  five euros. Let's say three point five million euros. You get both vid
• 55:29
  first you win, you get five point five five point zero five million dollars.
• 55:34
  So let's say four point seventy five million euros. No, sorry,
• 55:37
  that's if you reach the finals. If you win, you get about nine
• 55:40
  million euros. So it's like cumulative, you captain, we could like I'm
• 55:46
  guessing we're like I'm doing quick calculations here, probably close to twenty million,
• 55:51
  depending you get more money in for the games in between, so slightly more
• 55:55
  money now. Yeah, but Jenny, you talk you know, you talked
• 56:00
  about Darrossi winning the last time there was an international soccer tournament, taught soccer
• 56:06
  tournament held in Germany. Drossi won the World Cup. This year tournament in
• 56:09
  Germany maybe the Europa League. So, uh, perfect transition because I do
• 56:15
  want to talk about that. Richard. You know you follow the Bundesliga.
• 56:17
  Uh, you know, you have your shock podcast. You know, obviously
• 56:22
  with the tournament in Germany. Uh, you know, I first want to
• 56:27
  ask, like, what's the sentiment in in Germany for this tournament? Obviously
• 56:30
  for the German national team. I'm guessing there they're you know, their goals
• 56:36
  to win, right it's at home, and you know what, It's also
• 56:39
  interesting because Italy does play a game and how he pronounces Gelsen Gelson Kerssen Gelson
• 56:45
  Kirsen, Gilson Kirsten. There you go. They do play against the home
• 56:49
  of Shock against June twentieth, so that's a good connection for you. But
• 56:53
  uh, yeah, Euros. What's what's happening in Germany? What's their sentiment?
• 56:58
  Yeah, I think it's a bit of redemption, is a feeling because
• 57:00
  they've been so poor in the international tournaments as of late, and it's not
• 57:05
  what you expect for Germany. Germany expect to be one of the top,
• 57:07
  you know, four top eight teams when it comes to the tournament time,
• 57:10
  and they haven't been. They've been you know, knock out the first round
• 57:13
  or early exits, not looking good at all even when they're in qualifying and
• 57:16
  stuff. They've never they haven't done really well in the last several years.
• 57:20
  But now they've start, you know, they try to do a whole renovation
• 57:23
  of the youngsters placing the old guard. They've got a young young manager who
• 57:30
  has a lot of potential and and nouglemen, and so they they're feeling better
• 57:37
  than they were and I think they want to have a great showing. I
• 57:40
  don't know if they I don't know if I don't think Germany is one of
• 57:44
  the favorites, you know, this tournament, however, you're at home.
• 57:46
  We see what the home, the home Juwice can do for a team.
• 57:50
  Also, they're playing a lot better, and so I think Germany is expecting
• 57:53
  a deep run in the tournament, maybe you know, maybe best case scenario,
• 57:57
  semifinal run or something like that. Obviously they would love to win it,
• 58:00
  but I think it's it's they're looking at the tournament as a redemption and
• 58:04
  you know, being good hosts, and they kind of want to say face
• 58:07
  after these last several tournaments where they just just bottomed out really and it's not
• 58:12
  it's absolute disappointment, you know. And yeah, it's one thing to lose
• 58:15
  to Italy in the semi final of the World Cup, but it's a lot
• 58:17
  different to lose in the first round and in another major tournament. So they're
• 58:22
  not about that, They're all they are not afraid of revolutionizing the way they
• 58:25
  play the game to make sure it's a better result. That's kind of why
• 58:29
  we saw the last guard come in because they kind of under under Kleinsmen and
• 58:32
  company and and Jokim Lov they completely re re redid how they play the game
• 58:37
  and it's been uh, they kind of set away for everybody else how to
• 58:40
  play and everybody. You know, football constantly changes the evolutions, it's constant,
• 58:45
  and so they're now in that mix where they're trying to find themselves again.
• 58:47
  They got a lot of youngsters on the team that are hungry, right
• 58:52
  you know, timo Vera are amongst them, and so look for Germany to
• 58:55
  play much better than they have in the last maybe two maybe three tournaments.
• 59:00
  So I would say redemption is as the theme for them, I would from
• 59:04
  the outside looking in, is it verts Florian verts Flora verts is fantastic as
• 59:09
  well? You got Kai Havertz. Yeah, Kai Havertz is obviously guy you
• 59:13
  gotta keep an eye for. He is the German Jude Bull Bellingham. I
• 59:19
  mean, there's so much talent there, Kimick, it is still obviously still
• 59:21
  there and so there's a little bit of old guard and new guard there,
• 59:24
  but there's so much good young talent there. Uh, it's can they play
• 59:29
  together and and can give results hopefully there You know, you would imagine that
• 59:32
  the coach is hoping that they're naive enough that they can work through some of
• 59:36
  that. You know, that scaredness of being in a big tournament. But
• 59:39
  there's a lot of talent on this team and with Musiela, uh, he
• 59:43
  is he is that good of a player. You know, everyone's raving about
• 59:46
  Jude Bellingham for good reason, but Mossiella is you know, almost as good
• 59:51
  as him. He does the similar things. He is a game changer as
• 59:53
  well, uh in the midfield position. So yeah, this the talent they
• 1:00:00
  have on the team is ridiculous. Is can they show for the tournament?
• 1:00:02
  So we'll see, can they show up to the tournament? It sounds like
• 1:00:07
  Italy. I don't know, Richard, what's your what's your what's your overall
• 1:00:13
  thoughts? Because obviously we we obviously touch a lot on Utah national team on
• 1:00:15
  the show, and and we know you follow as well. So maybe just
• 1:00:21
  your overall thoughts of you spoke about Germany maybe to give us something similar for
• 1:00:24
  this this side entering Euro twenty twenty four. Yeah, again, it's it's
• 1:00:30
  similar stories too, because we obviously we crapped out at the World Cup,
• 1:00:34
  didn't even make it in there. And under Spiletti there's a lot of optimism.
• 1:00:39
  We've seen glimpses of it so far with him, he's gotten more of
• 1:00:44
  attacking since the team plays his style of football, and with with Spiletti at
• 1:00:49
  the Helm, he's always done wonders with the strikers, and so we expect
• 1:00:52
  that at least at least Frank and I do expect that by the time the
• 1:00:55
  Euros come around, he'll have something figured out more than what it is right
• 1:01:00
  now. We're starting to see he's obviously trying different things with different players to
• 1:01:02
  see what works. Obviously, you got, you know, the key core
• 1:01:06
  players like Barella. Who else is uh, there's certainly don Roma Dono but
• 1:01:14
  in Bostonia, but there's there's a there's enough of the old guard plus a
• 1:01:16
  lot of the youngsters that this team can do something. And I think they're
• 1:01:21
  finally starting to figure out what the wing back. I think they're the two
• 1:01:22
  attacking wingers on the left side, and the left and right side could be
• 1:01:27
  the pivotal thing there because if you have a good trickle like Reticu or Camacho
• 1:01:30
  or whoever is leading the line even on as Madi with the right, you
• 1:01:32
  know, combination of the other's Kieza and whoever else, I mean, you
• 1:01:36
  gottaf we gotta figure out the combinations for the attack. And I and I
• 1:01:37
  know Spiletti, will I feel confident about this team now. Do I think
• 1:01:42
  they're gonna be one of the favorites to win it all? I don't,
• 1:01:45
  But I think, like Germany, a good show in a good deep run,
• 1:01:49
  if they can get the quarterfinals for semifinals, that would be fantastic.
• 1:01:52
  I think anything on top of that would just be chairing, you know,
• 1:01:54
  icing on the cake. Defense is where I'm struggling with this because we've all
• 1:02:00
  grown up with the Azodi having the best defense in the world. We haven't
• 1:02:04
  seen this from this team, and we're that's that's been really you know,
• 1:02:07
  outside of the striker position. That's the one question mark is like can they
• 1:02:09
  play defense? I don't know? Uh, And so if pol I Taket
• 1:02:15
  figured that out, Droma obviously can do magical things with the reaction saves.
• 1:02:20
  They'll need to have some player step up obviously, like last Euros where we
• 1:02:23
  had Spinot, Sola and ki Is that kind of really coming up and taking
• 1:02:27
  over. They're gonna need that. But they're gonna need to play better defense
• 1:02:30
  and find a way to score timely goals. In the past we could we
• 1:02:32
  could get deep and even win things without a great score and record. But
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  we had great defense back then. We don't have that now, so we
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  have to do it on the offense is gonna have to carry us. The
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  midfield's gonna have to dominate, and they can do that. We have some
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  good talented midfielders, especially the new crop is coming up, the last the
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  last call ups that we had. Our new bodies that are coming into the
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  into the mix, and so can any of them steal the light buns the
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  name of the defense that you know been been ring a little bells. He
• 1:02:58
  makes some mistakes here and there, but he's got a lot of all talent.
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  So I'm optimistic that we I'm gonna say at least quarter finals, if
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  not semifinals. That's my that's my goal for a good tournament. Anything else,
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  anything last to quarterfinals is a poor, poor former season, despite how
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  we've been playing the last three years, four years. We did get a
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  question on Instagram from Mastercola, what's Buffon's role at Euro twenty four? I
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  mean certainly not starting goalkeeper but back up, So I guess he's still part
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  of staff, right, Yeah, he's still part of the staff. Is
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  I forget well? Any thoughts Richard? Yeah, I would imagine his role
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  would be similar. I guess in a way that Lat's role was with me
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  Lan when he first came back after his Great American adventure, and it's more
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  being the commune influence in the locker room. Obviously, he's been there,
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  done that. He's one of the greatest goalkeepers ever. He's gonna be a
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  guy who can let the youngster, especially the youngsters, know like just what
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  to expect it and when the pressure's on, maybe has some tips with them
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  and how to kind of stay relaxed, because that's gonna be key when you
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  especially if you progress further in the tournament, those nerves are gonna get you.
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  And so I mean Before has been a master at that his entire career,
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  and so who better to have than someone like his presence in the locker
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  room helping Spiletti out. What his exact role is, I'm not sure,
• 1:04:30
  but that's what my guess is. That's what's Latin did with Milan, and
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  he was he did wonders for them, and so I imagine Before, in
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  the same vein gonna be there to help them out. So yeah, no,
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  I even kind of what we saw with not maybe not to the biggest
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  degree because he was more under the under the radar. But you know when
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  that us, you know, in the stint with the at the Euros,
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  obviously, Uh, I think just him, I think him it was more
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  obviously behind the scenes, you know, just or even like a guy like
• 1:04:56
  Lucaviali, you know, obviously rest in peace. You know, his his
• 1:04:59
  importance to that, to that team, and you know they were really fighting
• 1:05:02
  for these legends of the Italian game, and uh, you know, these
• 1:05:05
  guys are winners. So I think there's no there's nobody better, like you
• 1:05:09
  said, Richard, to to keep these kids and these guys in check,
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  uh, to keep them accountable. Uh, you know, make make sure
• 1:05:16
  they understand if they haven't hardy understood what it means to wear the the the
• 1:05:21
  shirts. So because we always say, you know, as cliche as it
• 1:05:26
  sounds, it's a heavy shirt to wear the shirts. So I think,
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  you know, having these these presence, you know, in in these organizations,
• 1:05:36
  if it be clubbed, if it be international teams, I think it's
• 1:05:42
  I think it's very very important just to bring back not not even just for
• 1:05:45
  the nostalgia. Obviously as fans, we obviously you know, going towards that,
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  but within the four walls, just to just to you know, show
• 1:05:55
  these players you know what it takes to win, because if there's anybody to
• 1:05:59
  look to, you know, gen Luigia buffoon Is is a prime example for
• 1:06:02
  that. So yeah, the exact title in his uh in his LinkedIn guys,
• 1:06:10
  I don't know. I don't even think it matters what it is.
• 1:06:15
  He's gonna be there. I think he's gonna I think hopefully he's that factor,
• 1:06:18
  like you said, like it's a lot of time askue type of factor
• 1:06:20
  where he he takes these he takes these players, you know, to the
• 1:06:25
  next level. Uh. Yeah, it's going to be exciting for the Euros.
• 1:06:33
  I mean we got what two more months, two months and I think
• 1:06:39
  two months two months literally starts June fifteenth, son seventies. Do you have
• 1:06:46
  a favorite for the tournament, Richard? And we spoke about Italy and Germany,
• 1:06:50
  but overall, is there a favorite? I don't know if there's a
• 1:06:55
  uh well, France is probably out not favorite, but I mean Spain and
• 1:07:00
  Englynn those are probably the other two teams I would look at. There's so
• 1:07:05
  obviously some dark horses that could be in there, like Portugal or there's some
• 1:07:10
  of these other names that could surprise us. There's always a surprise in these
• 1:07:13
  tournaments. But yeah, I think it's Franci's tournament to lose, just because
• 1:07:16
  they're so they're so talented, they got so many good youngsters, so many
• 1:07:19
  good vets. It's just so much depth as well. This team is just
• 1:07:24
  stacked. It's there to lose, really, But yeah, I think Spain,
• 1:07:28
  we've seen what they've done. You know what, they're youngsters. They
• 1:07:30
  just continue to produce talent, you know, they do, and they know
• 1:07:32
  how to win these games. And then England, you know, we it's
• 1:07:35
  always a joke with us, especially us in England about who's better at this
• 1:07:40
  and then we always talk about they talk too too much shit and they say
• 1:07:43
  we talked to him shit. But they got a good team they do.
• 1:07:45
  I mean, when you know the guys like Harrycane and Jude Belling him obviously
• 1:07:47
  with all the confidence in the role with playing a real Madrid, it's a
• 1:07:50
  team you have to you have to at least give respect for. And I
• 1:07:55
  think you know, despite you know what the their fans may think or what
• 1:08:00
  not, or how good they think they are. I do think it's a
• 1:08:01
  legit team and they have to be considered one of the best. I mean,
• 1:08:04
  anybody else you guys are thinking of outside of those three. It's tough,
• 1:08:09
  I think. I think it's it's almost like you said, a default
• 1:08:12
  for France. I mean it was like that for for for them when in
• 1:08:15
  last Euros. Obviously, like you said, there's always somebody to surprise that
• 1:08:19
  team with Switzerland in the in the France case knocking them out. So again,
• 1:08:24
  anything is possible, so as cruciated as that sounds, but you know,
• 1:08:29
  I don't know. Yeah, the Portraitals of the world, I think,
• 1:08:31
  Yeah, the Spains, like just our group in general, I think
• 1:08:33
  is A is A is a tough group really, so you know, with
• 1:08:39
  with with A, with a Spain with a with an aging But at the
• 1:08:44
  same time, the Croatia, obviously the Albania. Yeah, man, it's
• 1:08:49
  it's it's it's tough. But yeah, I think it's a default answer.
• 1:08:53
  It's probably uh, it's probably Frands. Maybe Italy could beat them in the
• 1:08:58
  final again, repit. I just want to see as many repeats from two
• 1:09:01
  thousand and six as possible, you know, plays playing, So yeah,
• 1:09:08
  there you go. I mean, at least First Gaming is a doorman,
• 1:09:11
  which the famous semifinal game is from. But uh, I think that'll do
• 1:09:16
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• 1:09:20
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• 1:09:34
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• 1:09:43
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• 1:10:25
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• 1:12:00
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