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There are No Words for It (Feat. STS9) · POD>>>Podular

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  It's pod. Podular.
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  Welcome back, everybody. Thank you so much for joining us.
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  It is Friday, September 19th.
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  This is episode 47, and boy,
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  do we have a special one for you. First things first.
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  Happy Human Dream 2 Day.
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  Today is the official release of the second EP Human
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  Dream Project. We're going to be focused on that quite a bit here today,
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  and with the help of an artist, Spotlight, the 10th installment
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  as well. But before we get into that, let's introduce my co host,
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  Mr. Scotty Fuller. How are we feeling today?
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  Oh, boy. I am feeling real, real,
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  real good, buddy.
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  Dare I say I'm. I've never been more excited about anything short
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  of like the two things that come to mind are the birth of my child
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  and my wedding. Yeah, well, this is all I got, man.
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  So you ain't got either one of those. So this is it
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  for you. Let's marry the game, bro. Married to the game.
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  All right, so, I mean, let's get right into it with The Human Dream 2.
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  Obviously, a very exciting day. The Human Dream 2 has been live on
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  Bandcamp for Bandcamp subscribers for a couple days now, but today marks the official
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  release on all streaming platforms. Spotify,
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  Tidal, Apple Music. So really exciting
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  there. And we start off with. Is this the
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  scariest sts9 song to ever be recorded in the studio
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  with Dusk? Good God, Scotty. I mean, dude, what were they thinking
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  with this one? I mean, we. We. We're gonna find out here in a
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  few minutes. But. But it. In the. In the. In the. The. The.
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  The few minutes that we have before we get into it,
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  man, We. We. We. We so, so affectionately and
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  lovingly call this one scare your grandma music on this. On this podcast.
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  And they're not doing anything to shy away from
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  that label. No, this. There is.
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  There is a clarity to this in the studio
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  that somehow makes it scarier.
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  I mean, you said it like there's no way around it. This.
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  This is on its own and especially in a.
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  On in a studio setting. Like, we have a few songs
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  like this in the catalog. None of them are on an album, though.
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  Like, we've got Twilight like that. You know, there's. There's things that
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  are. That kind of exist in the same realm as this, but for them to
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  take the time to do this in the studio is really cool.
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  And I. I said in our. In a group chat that both of us are
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  in earlier, I think it's one of my favorite studio offerings. I think right off
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  the bat. Yeah, I mean, right off the bat, we hear a
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  hundred brown Guitar tone, which wasn't
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  in that clip to start, but like that first kind of melody
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  line he plays, it's like almost Jerry Garcia esque,
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  like, like, with like the heavy, like,
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  effects. Like it's just
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  playing around with different stuff. And even in these songs that are being released in
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  the EP that we've been seeing in the live catalog for a number
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  of years, adding freshness to it. Right.
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  Adding more modular depth to it with fips just
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  keying in on the glockenspiel. I think that is
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  from Jeffrey on that. Like you said, it's coming
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  through clear and it makes it that much scary. And we are on the
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  heels of the scary seasons, baby. Yeah. Halloween is coming up
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  and we all know that's one of the best STS9 holidays.
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  So, I mean, this one's really diving into Jack O Lantern shit.
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  The word that I wanted to use with Dusk was hollow, but I hesitated
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  because I feel like that could be conceived as a negative word, but not in
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  the way that I'm saying it. I mean, like Hallow when you shout into
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  a graveyard. And the echoes that come off of. The gravestones types
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  like Headless Horseman, Sleepy Hollow. Right, right,
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  right. Like, I just. I'm.
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  I'm at a loss for a better description of it right now, but it's
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  just the openness that the studio allows.
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  You know, I don't know that there's just. There's just something about this
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  version of it that I, I really appreciate and I, you know, it's.
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  We have such a embarrassment of riches when it comes to live recordings.
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  I, I barely go back to studio anything, and I, I feel like Studio Dusk
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  will make it on some playlists I. I like. Oh, yeah, for sure. The trick
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  or treating playlist, definitely. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Hopefully kids will
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  still come get candy for my house. I was just having that thought.
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  But it kind of has the, the, the. The Halloween
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  movie theme s to it a little bit on that.
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  But, like, I mean, this is so much more than we're kind of pigeon hole
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  holding it here like this. This is a shoulder shaker, baby. This is a
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  toe tapper. It's one that gets you moving for sure.
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  And it seems like they've really, really settled into a pocket.
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  I noticed a change with it. I can't really put my finger
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  on what it was from the Dylan version. And I
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  know that was on the cutting room floor as far as our clips were going
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  from last week, but glad that we got to revisit it this
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  week. It was almost the universe Speaking in that sense. But yeah,
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  like I said in the intro, guys, we have what
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  is the most exciting installment of the Artist Spotlight
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  series here, the 10th installment. So without further ado,
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  let's throw it to the interview.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, it is time.
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  Whether you are joining this podcast for the first time or if you've been kind
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  enough to join us for all 297,481
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  seconds of this journey, and you bet your ass I counted. Because every
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  single one has led us to this moment right here. In those seconds, you have
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  heard from collaborators like Audio angel and Marine Murphy,
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  Taylor Houston Morgan Tiberius George Benson, Brad Bowden and
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  Matty o' Neal, and numerous other fans and creators. But today we
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  are going straight to the source. Not only the source of Nate and
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  friendship, but the source of a passionate and diverse community of
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  people built on the principles of symbiotic connection and love.
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  Love, love, love, Love, love. These five musicians
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  have collectively soundtracked over 227 collective
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  shows between Me and Nate's life. But that is just a fraction of the over
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  1300 shows they have played together in their 28 year career.
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  Today they are here for the first time, but certainly and hopefully
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  not the last, to talk about all things Human Dream. Please welcome Alana
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  Rocklin, Jeffrey Lerner, Hunter Brown, Zach Velmer and David Phipps.
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  Sound Tribe Sector nine. Welcome, guys.
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  Thanks for having us. For having us. So thank
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  you. What an intro, Scotty. Excellent.
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  Yeah, well done. I hadn't heard that yet. Yeah.
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  Me tearing up goosebumps. First of all, I mean,
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  we're only a couple weeks removed from that absolute scorcher of
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  a three night run in Colorado. Vibes have
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  got to be high. How'd the energy feel coming off those
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  shows? Did it look as fun as it sounded and was it as fun as
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  it looked and sounded? Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah,
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  absolutely. It was a little hot in the Boulder theater.
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  Yeah, the weather was pretty warm in
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  there, but you know, that kind of lends itself to just a.
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  A scorcher, you know, like you guys,
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  I'll quote you just, it was, it was, it was pretty
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  special. The energy, the vibe, the community was
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  on a level, to say the least. Yeah,
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  completely agree with that. So, you know, let's,
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  let's get right into the topic of discussion, guys. Happy Human Dream 2 release
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  day. First of all, we are recording
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  this the night before, but everyone else is going to be hearing it, you know,
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  right alongside. Probably as soon as they finish it. They're hopefully they're checking
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  this out. Let's get right into it. So, Hunter, you mentioned
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  a while ago in a. In a. In an interview that you
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  guys have more unreleased music than you know what to do with.
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  You've got the studio that you have, by your own words, kind of
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  opened the floodgates to us to this year. And I. This is very
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  much that. So it feels like you guys are usually in the
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  mode of at least casually creating. How do you kind of.
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  How do you know when you left casual creation mode and entered
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  album mode? That's a good question. I think we're always in
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  hard folk, creative minds, you know, And I think it's always.
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  There's just always that kind. That's the spirit of what we do.
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  That's what's always going on. That's what we're always talking about. And eventually
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  it's like, oh, you know what? We might have an album here or there's an
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  idea that comes along that we want to express that that kind of comes in
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  conjunction with a group of songs, like with Human Dream. And so I
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  think it's just right now, at least that's
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  a new question right now that's kind of left to be discovered. I think because
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  we do have so much material now,
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  we're kind of figuring out what do we want to do, how do we want
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  to do it? And we really haven't been in that place before, to be honest.
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  At least in this place where we are now with the kind of material that
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  we've got. We've got a bunch of new songs, We've got a ton of old
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  songs. Fan favorites that we've never recorded before. So we're
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  feeling pretty good and really excited just to get
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  into it all and start. Yeah. And really open up those floodgates.
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  Fan favorites that you've never recorded before, as in you are
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  currently recording them,
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  maybe. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. A little sneak peek there.
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  Absolutely. We are all together and.
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  Yeah. You know. Yeah. Are all together. That's what we spend our time doing.
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  So, hell yeah. I want to say something about,
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  like, the casual going in because, like, especially with a human dream,
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  like on that particular subject, it's like there was this kind
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  of thing that. That was a really cool
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  moment in S for all five of us that, like going
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  into this writing together, playing some of the music
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  out and getting that energy and then. And then right
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  from there, from the writing process and then actually coming back from
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  maybe playing a show when we debuted a song and getting the response from the
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  energy. If we had six songs, now we have
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  seven. And if we had Seven songs and then nine.
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  And then we had nine. You know, so there was this kind of like,
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  oh, we're going to try this out and maybe it'll connect and maybe
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  not. Not. Not that it won't. It'll be a song. But like,
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  wow. Not from. I don't know if it's as. As black and
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  white, as casual to the. Now it's on the album. But like, there was a.
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  A definite response energetically from
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  fans with us playing it and being like. I mean,
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  just speaking specifically for a couple, I'm gonna say one song.
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  Glass. Glass was one of those songs. Dusk was one of
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  those songs, you know, so it was like. I mean, it was. I remember looking
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  at the Eastern in Atlanta and looking at the. You guys going nuts. It was
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  us. Yeah, it was us, absolutely. So 100%. And it was like. We all were
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  like, well, all right, 10, 11. Yeah,
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  we've got a hit. Yeah. Yeah. So.
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  That was honestly the next question we had. You know, Zach, you've talked
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  about in other interviews about the collaborative process between the band and fans.
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  Talk about it before. Encore is the symbiotic thing that
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  we have going on, and those moments seem to
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  really happen in the studio and on stage. It really crystallized
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  the direction of the Human dream as far
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  as inspiration goes. Right. Because that's what starts before anything
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  gets played or whether it be in the studio or live on stage.
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  You mentioned a lot of artists, Zach. You talked about LTJ
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  Bookham, MC Conrad, Rony Size, Clifford Gilberto,
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  and then Alana, you tipped your hat to James Jamerson.
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  Jeffrey, you've talked about Marvin Gaye, Hunter, you've talked about bebop
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  and jazz influence on Portal to the Starry Path. Who else is
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  inspiring you guys right now? And are there any other artists who inspired the
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  Human Dream that you'd like the fan base to know about?
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  Well, this might be silly, but it's absolutely sincere.
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  Hunter Brown in fifths, Alana Rocklin,
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  Zach Velmer on the real. And I think the
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  dedication and the intention that everyone brings to their. Their craft
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  and what we're able to achieve together and then exemplify
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  exponentially blossoms when you add a fan
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  and a show and the experience, and that's
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  what honestly is inspiring me right now.
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  I love that answer. Any. Any, Anyone,
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  anyone else? I mean, I. I think it's, you know, you can't
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  With. With. With. With writing and inspiration. I think it's
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  one of those things that you can't have
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  inspiration without experience to a level, you know, and like,
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  I think that, like, what we experience individually and
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  then be able to kind of, like, you know,
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  juice that up with all together with our music. I think that
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  that is. That's. That's the pinnacle, you know?
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  Sure. You know, I mean, we could. We could talk about different artists, we could
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  talk about nature, we could talk about that, but all of that is just life
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  experience. Right. Experience then kind of goes
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  into the inspiration of how. I mean, we are all creatives,
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  and that's what it just feels like we're all here to kind of do.
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  And it's. And I love Jeffrey's answer. I mean, we are all
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  inspired by each other of how we show up. And.
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  And I think that through the experience and kind
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  of going. We leave it. We leave it very
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  STS9, you know. Yeah.
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  There's such a clear identity in it. And,
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  you know, you guys, as a five piece, have now been playing together for
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  over 10 years. And that comfort level, it just seems to come
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  even stronger and stronger with every note you play. And now we
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  get a chance to start to put the. The current iteration of SDSN on
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  wax. And, yeah, it's music us. It's inspire strikes back.
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  And it certainly felt and heard again
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  ever since those first moments where we hear Glass for the first time,
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  and it's like, holy crap. That did not sound like a new song. Right?
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  Yeah. So one.
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  Go ahead. Oh, no, I was just agreeing. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Add to that. Like, just that.
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  Capturing that. And just what you said of, like, having this new experience be on
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  vinyl is. Is. It's really one of the most exciting things about this
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  human dream project, you know, our first, like,
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  real creation as. As that unit and being able to represent
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  our growth and represent our
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  journey, you know, where we've come to in the last 10 years.
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  So. Absolutely. That's. That's a big.
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  Yeah, I mean, I think that, you know. Yeah. I mean, this iteration has
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  just been. I mean, it's. It's. It's all process. Right?
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  It's all a process. So, you know,
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  I know Hunter can really speak to this, but, like, especially, you know,
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  these groups of songs was. It was really like a representation of
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  how we sound, how we sound, how we sound live, how we sound
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  in the studio. It's like, oh, real tricks. It's like, if you're gonna
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  hear us from the record and then you hear it live, it's that. That's what.
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  That's what we're creating. It's not. And that's what we're trying, you know, not even
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  trying but that's what that. That's the intention. That's how it. How it's coming across.
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  And it feels. Feels very authentic to us. It feels very us.
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  Yeah, we've talked a lot about that, and even, like, the little studio talks that
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  we've done and like, you know, we keep pulling
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  on different threads. You know, we keep, you know, Hunter, the mastermind,
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  where he's like. He hears this thing loop and it's like in a song.
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  But then now we have three more songs from that, and it's like, oh,
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  we're all like, chomping it, like, oh, my God, that's so cool. And we all.
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  We're inspired by that and. And what's next and how
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  it all kind of connects if we change the tempo, if he. It's crazy.
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  It's. It's unbelievably fun to say it. Yeah. And.
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  And it's apparent. I mean, I. I think. I think it's really cool what,
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  what you're. What you're saying about. You know, it. You know,
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  the. The. The one that is the classic example so far is It's All
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  Right Turning and. Or Finding the Life of Symphony and Uni. It's all right out
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  of. It's all right than out of. Like, I do first, honestly. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And. But it's. It's. It's like you. This is. This isn't
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  something new with. Throughout your career, you guys have pulled certain
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  parts of certain songs over the years and adapted them, but it's like it's
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  happening in hyperdrive recently. Yeah. It's lossless. Like, that's what it feels
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  like. Yeah. So on the.
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  On one more inspiration question while. While we're here,
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  it's. It's no secret that another kind of facet that you guys are
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  pull a lot of inspiration from is. Is books. We. We know about Peace
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  Blaster. When we had Maureen on, she mentioned, Hunter,
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  that you were reading a civil rights book at the time that was
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  kind of inspiring some of the creation there. You mentioned
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  the Power of Limitations in another interview. Are there any other books that
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  were. Were kind of inspiring, the general direction of this project?
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  Oh, man, that's a great question. You know, all of these projects,
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  when we kind of immerse ourselves in these topics for
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  years at a time, really months and years at a time.
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  And so there's a lot that comes through in that time period
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  that goes into the album, that goes into the theme and the ideas that we're
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  putting out there. It's hard to really pick, like, One or two,
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  and it really is. But I would say there's.
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  Kenneth Clark is someone that. I've just read a bunch of
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  his books over the past few years. He's someone that I've gone back to
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  over and over again. He's an art historian from the
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  early 20th century. And he's just kind
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  of an outsized role in how we experience art today and
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  sharing how through art, through visual arts, how we've
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  gotten to this point today in culture
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  and civilization. I think there's so many things that came out
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  really out of him, different threads
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  that we would pull out, things that he was talking about, books that he'd written.
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  And so that's one that just immediately comes to mind. For sure.
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  There's plenty. We could have another podcast just on that. Hey,
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  we'll save it for your solo episode. But they do this.
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  This is long form discussion and you guys are telling a story. So for sure,
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  let's talk about this rollout. It's extremely unique. Right. And it's
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  really fun to follow along with, whether you're a die hard fan like me or
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  Scotty, or a casual fan or a new fan that's just getting into it where
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  this is the first rollout that you're experience experiencing
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  as STS9 fan. Right. But this rollout, nearly a year long
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  with videos to go along with things, studio interviews,
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  five singles and two EPs already. What really went into
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  that behind the scenes with the Human Dream?
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  We had too many songs. Yeah. I mean,
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  so we. Okay, so we
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  kept writing more songs and then as. As described,
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  like we would come back and be like, hey, we have to record that song.
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  And that happened, you know, many times to
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  the point where we just struggled actually a little bit. How do we
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  share all of this music at once? And what's gonna, you know,
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  so that doesn't get lost, frankly, you know, because if
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  you release 19 tracks, which is what human dream will be, 19 songs,
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  okay. I mean we just felt
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  like we have to split it up somehow. But it was one theme and
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  one thought and one energy of the. The music that
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  we couldn't split it up. Right. And all of us are so old school on
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  the. Like, we love records and we. Yeah. Albums and
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  albums and. And by no means is this like we even said, like it's not
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  a. This isn't a thematic, you know, concept album at
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  all. Like, but there is something that was a thread
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  again that was going through and it's just like we kept going. 19 songs.
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  Okay. What's gone into it is a
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  Lot of just, I think us just trying to enjoy this process of sharing
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  all of this stuff with you guys. And like, how do we do it in
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  a way that's getting. Getting the
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  creative side across? We've just been experimenting a lot.
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  Like all of the different videos and things are
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  kind of us just doing it ourselves and experimenting and having fun with it.
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  Definitely really wanting to tell the story of what.
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  What we're doing. I mean, that's been always something that has been important. How do
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  we tell that story? What's the best way to communicate it? And so, yeah,
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  it's just been super fun. We've just had a great time. Kind of getting
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  into each song and really dissecting them even after the fact has been
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  fun for us too. So, yeah, that's. That's pretty much.
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  That's pretty much what we've been doing just the whole year is just like
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  kind of getting together, recording more,
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  writing more. You know, it's all ongoing, so everything's like
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  it really, when. When the floodgates is no joke, man.
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  This is like, the list is long. So,
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  yeah, we're getting to it. So would
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  you. Would you call all parts of this rollout equal, equal parts fun?
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  Because, I mean, you talked about the Instagram kind of mini interviews that
• 24:49
  you guys have been doing. I mean, we've hear from you guys on. On a,
• 24:53
  like an interview level, on a talking level, online, more than we ever have before
• 24:57
  this year. Is that fun or does that feel more
• 25:02
  like the work of this whole thing? It's probably
• 25:06
  a little of both, but I think, Okay, I think that we're open to
• 25:10
  challenge ourselves to, like, do things that maybe are a little uncomfortable
• 25:14
  or whatever, because it is that important that we want to share what we
• 25:18
  are sharing. Right. And so I
• 25:23
  think it's both. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
• 25:27
  I. I'll say it. I mean, it's, you know,
• 25:30
  we're in a new time. You know what I mean? It's so,
• 25:34
  you know,
• 25:38
  we've. We've seen so many different changes.
• 25:42
  Technology, from you have a CD to
• 25:46
  going to streaming to all of this stuff. So, you know, us kind
• 25:50
  of pivoting and adapting. I don't think it was like,
• 25:54
  just completely natural for us,
• 25:58
  but, you know, we kind of, you know, there's this thing that we.
• 26:01
  We. What an opportunity that we get to share,
• 26:05
  you know, that we. We have the opportunity. I'll.
• 26:08
  You know, I. I've said this many times. It's still amazing to me that,
• 26:12
  that. That one person cares
• 26:17
  enough in this world. In this third dimensional reality that we
• 26:21
  live in today, in the amount of saturation and what's out there and noise that,
• 26:25
  that people connect to what we're doing and, and how blessed
• 26:30
  and grateful we are that we still get to create music. And we, we will
• 26:33
  create no matter if there was one person to a thousand people, to ten thousand,
• 26:37
  you know, um, so it feels like this opportunity that
• 26:41
  it's not like we have to, but we get to.
• 26:45
  Hey. And it feels, it's. We feel really grateful and blessed
• 26:49
  that you guys are doing this and the people are coming to the shows
• 26:53
  and all that. So, you know,
• 26:57
  I don't know. I think that, that I do know that it feels,
• 27:01
  it is pushing us, though, creatively. Sure. Outside of our.
• 27:05
  Outside of realms that, you know, we haven't necessarily,
• 27:09
  I don't want to say feel comfortable or not comfortable. It's just, you know,
• 27:13
  just probably you guys starting a podcast, it was like, I remember talking to
• 27:17
  Nate just being like, I think we're going to do this or outside of.
• 27:20
  It's outside of yourself. So you grow within that. So I don't know, it feels
• 27:24
  good. And once like anything, you get comfortable,
• 27:28
  it becomes more comfortable. And we do laugh and
• 27:32
  we do have fun doing it, you know, and we have had a lot of
• 27:35
  fun doing it, you know, so. Yeah, that's.
• 27:39
  That's what I was gonna say. There's a lot of laughter. Like, we're, I mean,
• 27:42
  you know, we are laughing a lot
• 27:46
  once we get going. We're just being silly and
• 27:50
  fun and doing our thing and just kind of, you know,
• 27:54
  also just we. We enjoy being around each other. So that's not,
• 27:58
  you know what I'm saying? Like, it's, it's. It's like, okay, you're just hanging out
• 28:01
  with your friends and getting to create things about your music that you made.
• 28:04
  We're just like, whoa. Like, okay, if we just look at it like that,
• 28:08
  it totally changes the perspective.
• 28:11
  Yeah, I would agree. Yeah, I, I agree completely. And. And with
• 28:15
  both of what, you know, what, you know, you both said on the,
• 28:19
  you know, I think personally speaking, there's a part of it too. It's like,
• 28:25
  you know, music is so powerful partly because it's music
• 28:28
  and you're not talking about it, you know, and that's partly why
• 28:33
  I feel so comfortable making music. That's where I can,
• 28:36
  you know, express myself the best, the most openly, the most freely.
• 28:41
  And having to talk about it sometimes is just. It's really
• 28:44
  new. It's something that I just, you Know, it's. You know,
• 28:48
  it's definitely different, and it's a blessing, but at the
• 28:52
  same time, it's. It's having to, you know,
• 28:56
  kind of face the fact that. Yeah. I mean, part of this is so.
• 28:59
  Is. Is a struggle, personally, because, you know, music is this kind of comfort zone
• 29:04
  where it is this complete freedom to express and really say things
• 29:07
  that are hard to say otherwise. And two,
• 29:11
  I think music is most powerful when it's
• 29:15
  experience. You know, I think I sometimes worry about,
• 29:19
  you know, not. Not worried, but I think it's like, I just know that
• 29:24
  music is most powerful in this experience. You really can't explain anything to somebody.
• 29:28
  You really got to let them experience to. To feel that magic, to really believe
• 29:31
  it and to say, I know it. You know, it's nothing. I'm going to sit
• 29:34
  here and tell you that's going to get you to. You know what I mean?
• 29:36
  Yeah. To understand that. But I. But I hope
• 29:40
  this helps you, you know, get to the. To the headphones and to the,
• 29:44
  you know, and to. To check us out kind of thing. So it's amazing,
• 29:48
  and it's a blessing. And it's also led us to, like, really create new things,
• 29:51
  and I think that's another big part of it, too. It's like really
• 29:55
  wanting to just leave everything on the field artistically this year, this year,
• 29:59
  in preparation in the rollout for this album, you know,
• 30:04
  pushing every creative button in our spirit to
• 30:09
  really try to do everything we can to express what we're trying to, you know,
• 30:11
  to give to the world. Right. Share with the world right now. And so that
• 30:14
  has been fulfilling and devouring at the same time,
• 30:18
  you know, so it is just. It's an incredible blessing
• 30:23
  and couldn't be more thankful and, you know, and y' all
• 30:27
  are just a perfect representation of that, you know, talking to, you know, two of
• 30:31
  our biggest, you know, two people we know so well that we see all the
• 30:34
  shows and we've, you know, kind of had these experiences together with. So we feel
• 30:37
  comfortable talking to y' all about them. But it's interesting. It's been
• 30:41
  an interesting rollout because of all the things that we've done that have been kind
• 30:43
  of brand new. Sure. Yeah. Hunter, I just.
• 30:47
  I just want to take a second. The way that you just described music is
• 30:51
  the way that I describe y' all to people. I mean, there's somebody
• 30:55
  that's going to listen to this tomorrow and go, that's the way you described them
• 30:58
  to me before. You brought me to the. To my First.
• 31:01
  Yeah, it's. I do our best. Yeah.
• 31:04
  I have this thing where if somebody is curious about STS9
• 31:09
  the first tickets on me, because I can't explain this
• 31:13
  to you. I have. You heard me Intro at almost 300,000 seconds
• 31:18
  of talking about y'. All. I can't do it. Like, I have to put
• 31:22
  someone in front of. In front of you for them to be like,
• 31:25
  ah, okay, I get this now. You know,
• 31:29
  you just gotta feel it. Yeah. Zach, Zach, you talked about the
• 31:33
  third dimensional world. I thought if we learned anything in the Tabby at The tabby
• 31:37
  in 2015 is that there's four dimensions. Right? So,
• 31:41
  Hunter, music. Yeah, yeah. But when we're talking like this, we're in the third dimension,
• 31:44
  bro. That's fair. That's fair.
• 31:48
  We'll stay in our lane for sure,
• 31:52
  you guys. And you've already kind of hit on it.
• 31:56
  What has the human dream added to the creative team dynamic of STS9?
• 32:00
  All hands on deck. All hands on deck.
• 32:04
  All hands on deck. There you go. Yeah, well said. It is.
• 32:08
  It's full on. It's full on. We have.
• 32:12
  I mean, we can't speak highly enough of actually who's behind the
• 32:17
  scenes helping share our
• 32:22
  creative vision with us. You know what I mean? It's top
• 32:28
  notch. Completely top notch. Yeah. We've had
• 32:31
  to reach out and make some new relationships to help us kind of, you know,
• 32:34
  to make sure that we had some extra reach. And it's just been incredible.
• 32:38
  It really has. We've got an incredible team and
• 32:42
  it's. It's exciting. It really is.
• 32:46
  On that team, you guys have added a. A.
• 32:49
  A good friend of ours, somebody I've known for a very long time,
• 32:53
  and somebody that's been a guest on this podcast before. Taylor, Houston, Morgan.
• 32:57
  Just it. Talk my boy up for a second. Tell us
• 33:01
  what adding him. Adding him to the team has. Has. Has done to.
• 33:05
  To the. To. To Yalls creative process in general.
• 33:08
  That's easy. Who wants to go first? I mean, Hunter, you should go.
• 33:12
  I'll follow you up. Oh, man. It's just.
• 33:15
  He's like a six member, you know, he's like a six for the band.
• 33:19
  You know, in. In a. Just a real way. Just in the terms of someone
• 33:25
  that we can talk to outside of the bubble that we've created
• 33:29
  for each other, you know, that. That we trust and
• 33:33
  that we can just kind of dream this in with. That someone can go out
• 33:36
  as kind of a scalp and then bring back and then that we can like,
• 33:40
  really flesh things out with and then Me and him will have just hours long
• 33:44
  conversations about just the minutiae of certain things. I mean, like, of just real
• 33:48
  nerdy art stuff. That's just incredible to be able to do that with
• 33:52
  someone who's just so, so good at what
• 33:56
  they do and just so, you know,
• 33:59
  just hungry like we are to create and just so right there,
• 34:03
  you know, wanting to just do the best and constantly pushing themselves to
• 34:07
  find that, that next, you know, step in their creative journey.
• 34:11
  And he's definitely helped us find ours and so get into
• 34:15
  all kind of details about that. But it's been incredible to kind of have a
• 34:18
  new team member brother to help us share our vision.
• 34:23
  And that's who Taylor is. Absolutely. Thank you, Taylor. Yeah,
• 34:27
  absolutely. I mean, I can show you my text messages where it's like, hey,
• 34:30
  can you talk for a sec? And then that sec, we call each other
• 34:34
  and then it's like literally an hour and 15 minutes later. It's like we always
• 34:38
  do this because it's just like where we, where the conversation leads is
• 34:42
  beyond. And how he has, like,
• 34:45
  really. I don't know,
• 34:49
  man, how he's kind of stepped his game up as well, but like
• 34:53
  how he sees and can kind of like automatically read between the lines.
• 34:58
  He's kind of also like a one, like one step ahead. And it's,
• 35:02
  it's, it's. It's just such a pleasure to kind of align
• 35:08
  with that because in our, in, in how we.
• 35:12
  All of the assets that have to happen not only for an album,
• 35:16
  but also just for a
• 35:20
  show or merchandise or adma, all of those pieces, it's so.
• 35:24
  There's so much minutiae and to just give
• 35:28
  him one more shout out of just like how he,
• 35:38
  how he. The cohesive.
• 35:42
  It might be him. Yeah, right. It might be him. The cohesiveness
• 35:46
  of how he helps facilitate that is just,
• 35:49
  It's. It's really, really amazing. We care a
• 35:53
  lot about our. How we present ourselves with the art and the music and the
• 35:57
  assets, the branding, the log logos, all of that. And he helps
• 36:01
  us more than anyone and keep that consistency where
• 36:06
  everything you see from us has this certain kind of touch to it that,
• 36:09
  you know, from, you know, you know, that it had our, you know, that.
• 36:12
  That we're on the details that we care at that level, because we do.
• 36:16
  And so he's really not only helping us do that, but pushing us
• 36:20
  to do that. And, and, and it's just an absolutely.
• 36:24
  Just a, you know, it's a, It's. We're a team. We're a true team
• 36:28
  helping each other. You know, he's bringing stuff to us, we're bringing stuff to him.
• 36:30
  We're collaborating, he's creating, we're creating. And it's
• 36:34
  just. This is what it's all about, really. It's a huge part of why we
• 36:38
  love doing what we do is that part of it is sharing the kind
• 36:42
  of propaganda of it all. You know, being able to put these things that we
• 36:45
  care about into every little bit of everything that we do. Whether it's a video
• 36:49
  that's going out, it's got a little tag at the end of it or an
• 36:52
  asset that goes out, that's a show poster or whatever, it's got some, you know,
• 36:55
  the story is there to pull. There's things that people like you,
• 36:59
  you guys are going to recognize. Maybe new fans won't, but they'll start to.
• 37:03
  And they'll start to see that it's. It's our world. And he's, he's helping
• 37:07
  shape that world and he's making sure that it is coming across the way
• 37:11
  we all expect it to and want it to. And that's a huge
• 37:15
  thing because that's really hard to do across a team that's maybe, you know,
• 37:19
  15, 20 people. And so to have someone like that that's
• 37:23
  making sure that, that, that everything is on that level, that's really important to us.
• 37:27
  It really is. We've had. We have. We've had trouble in the past. We really
• 37:30
  have. People just take that over without. Just take it over. They're going to use
• 37:34
  a different logo. They're going to not use the right typography or the right font
• 37:38
  or. I mean, it's like, interesting in the amount of energy and time that it
• 37:41
  takes to like, it's, it's. It's. You don't
• 37:45
  even know. So, like, it has. We're on a level. It feels
• 37:49
  like we are. We're on a level right now. It looks like it. Yeah.
• 37:52
  Elevating those things. Absolutely. Like, we've kind of brought a certain.
• 37:57
  What would you call it, flip, like brand identity. Identity that.
• 38:02
  You know what I mean? He's. He's not only keeping that going but. But elevating
• 38:06
  it at every turn. And so. Yeah.
• 38:10
  Well, those are awesome words. And it comes through visually
• 38:14
  and sonically for sure with, with this project. But let's get
• 38:18
  back to. Back to sonically. You talk about all
• 38:22
  hands on deck and Brad a few weeks ago talked to us about giving
• 38:26
  you guys the fishing pole. Right. So,
• 38:30
  Phipps, for you specifically. Brad Pinpointed like you guys really
• 38:34
  honing in on, on the modular side of things. Right.
• 38:37
  And, and we start to see, we started to see that infused in
• 38:42
  the late 2010s a lot with their music. But it's almost kind of like
• 38:46
  getting itself to a point where it's a fully ingrained in your
• 38:50
  guys's music technically. What has changed for you guys between
• 38:54
  this release and your last release with the Universe Inside
• 38:57
  that has helped you create something like this?
• 39:06
  Wow. The modular
• 39:10
  has been around for a good minute. Oh for sure. Yeah.
• 39:16
  We met John Hughes
• 39:20
  in Chicago and were
• 39:24
  kind of introduced into a Eurorack modular
• 39:28
  system in early days of this of modular
• 39:33
  synthesizers where there's a handful of manufacturers
• 39:38
  almost on one or two hands.
• 39:42
  And so we've always had inspired by that.
• 39:45
  We've always had a modular of some sort in the studio.
• 39:50
  How, how we've kind of honed,
• 39:55
  honed our use of it and how
• 39:58
  we can deploy it on stage. Kind of
• 40:04
  reliable with some reliability.
• 40:07
  But also why open
• 40:11
  create creative palette at the same time has been
• 40:15
  a long journey. Has, has pretty much taken the full 15 years
• 40:20
  with modulars to figure out exactly how
• 40:24
  we want to do it and, and love to do it on stage
• 40:29
  is with the most options and, but tightness
• 40:33
  as well. You know,
• 40:36
  it's, it's one of those things that I mean I just
• 40:41
  have like tons and tons of modules and synthesizers
• 40:45
  and I have a rig at home and a rig here
• 40:48
  and the one that goes on the road.
• 40:53
  And each, each collection kind of teaches its own thing
• 40:58
  about what's. I don't know,
• 41:03
  what's cool. Yeah. I mean
• 41:07
  pretty much modular. Yeah. I mean it, it's.
• 41:12
  Yeah. You've had it, you've, you've had it for so long.
• 41:16
  Right? But Zach said it a few minutes ago. I mean this album
• 41:20
  is what you guys sound like now. And whether,
• 41:24
  whether it's Dusk or Shaky Ground or you know,
• 41:27
  what have you, there's so much more,
• 41:31
  so, so many more moments on what we've heard from these first two
• 41:35
  eps where the modular front and center at points and
• 41:38
  you know, in a, in a much more established
• 41:42
  way than organic way. Right. Than in, than in past
• 41:46
  works, you know, at all.
• 41:49
  So I, I, I think, I think that work that you guys have been putting
• 41:53
  in is, is, is more obvious than ever on, on, you know,
• 41:57
  on these, these two projects that you guys are here to talk about right now.
• 42:01
  We appreciate that such a high fidelity sound.
• 42:05
  It's, it's like hi Fi but analog and, and and
• 42:09
  chaotic at the same time on stage and on the recordings.
• 42:13
  It's. It's on its own channels, you know what I mean? It's like. Yeah,
• 42:17
  from the synthesizers or the pianos,
• 42:21
  the sounds coming from my risers. The modular is its own thing
• 42:25
  and it's treated that way and mixed that. Way and.
• 42:31
  Yeah, it's probably. Yeah, it's cool. I think the integration.
• 42:35
  I just want to say, if I could speak to it like, I think the
• 42:37
  integration has. It really has been integrated more than, dare I
• 42:41
  say, an afterthought. Do you know what I mean? To where. Yeah, it's more integrated
• 42:45
  into the initial thing rather than. Okay, cool,
• 42:49
  here's the song. Now we're going to go and just to a four minute modular
• 42:53
  after the song. Yeah, 100. We're still doing that.
• 42:57
  But it's. It feels more integrated to the whole sound. To where it
• 43:01
  doesn't feel like. And yeah, it's not start stop
• 43:04
  anymore. Yeah, it's all together as. As one sound. We're moving together as
• 43:08
  one sound. And I mean all of us literally, you know, have. Have really
• 43:12
  helped with that, especially just with like prepping for a show,
• 43:16
  you know what I mean? Just honestly, in some of those realms. So it's,
• 43:19
  it's really. Yeah,
• 43:22
  yeah. I mean, so let's talk about some of those songs that, that, that are.
• 43:26
  That are out. None of these are songs that, that we haven't heard before in
• 43:31
  a live setting. But we've got a few that you drop guys dropped
• 43:35
  as singles and then a few kind of surprises, so to speak, on this album
• 43:39
  of stuff that, you know, we didn't know was getting the studio treatment or not.
• 43:43
  Starting with. It's all right.
• 43:46
  Hold on. Wait. Did I. Am I, am I starting with like I do
• 43:50
  start. Sorry. Starting with like I do. My bad.
• 43:53
  This one is unique to everything else you guys have done so far because
• 43:58
  it stems from Rave spell back in 2019.
• 44:01
  Was. Was this one of the ones that stuck out to you guys
• 44:05
  after that night? Or did you feel like it immediately had potential to
• 44:09
  have an important spot like this in the Cat?
• 44:14
  Like I do? Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think
• 44:18
  it was immediately interesting in a couple of different ways.
• 44:22
  Just rhythmically, it's really unique and different and kind
• 44:26
  of difficult, honestly. Very. Yeah. For us it kind of got. You know what I
• 44:30
  mean? And that wasn't really. It took us a little bit to
• 44:34
  kind of recognize that, I think. But it was just something really different and new
• 44:37
  and interesting. I think we really wanted to push that and See where it would
• 44:40
  take us. We're trying several kind of new things on that. A new time signature.
• 44:44
  New. Yeah. You know, and so it just felt
• 44:49
  fun and kind of like a new, you know, something new and interesting. So we
• 44:52
  definitely wanted to keep pursuing that, get it to a place where it felt like
• 44:55
  a finished record. So I think that was. That was one of the,
• 44:58
  you know, that was a part of the first group where we knew this
• 45:03
  was going to be an album. This was going to be a collection of music
• 45:06
  that was going somewhere. This was starting to hit on, okay. Like, what STS9
• 45:11
  was now becoming. With Alana fully integrated into the band.
• 45:15
  I think that's ultimately. That's a. Musically speaking, that is part
• 45:19
  of what human dream is. It is kind
• 45:23
  of a representation of where we are right now. Like you said, like we've been
• 45:27
  talking about. That was really important to us, really get that on. Because we never
• 45:31
  really looked at an album like that before in the past. Most albums that we've
• 45:35
  created, that we've made, we've looked at the studio as kind of its own creative
• 45:38
  experience. And we still do. That's. That's still part of making any, Any,
• 45:42
  Any work in the studio. But with this,
• 45:46
  the. The, you know, the spirit of this wanted to remain live,
• 45:49
  you know, it wanted to remain. Like, we want to be able to recognize
• 45:55
  this and be able to play, you know, it just. I don't know, it just.
• 45:57
  We want it to be a snapshot of what we actually sound like right now.
• 46:00
  And. Yeah, well, it's. Yeah. Stems from a night of improv, so that's
• 46:05
  about as loud as it gets, right? Yeah, it does. Yeah. For sure. Well,
• 46:08
  I mean, I just remember. I'm just going to say artifact. I remember, like,
• 46:10
  we did fact, and then we had to learn how to do it. Yeah,
• 46:14
  yeah, like, how to do it. You know, like we
• 46:17
  did. How do we play these songs live, right. 10 years later.
• 46:23
  That was intentional, too, because we wanted to make an album
• 46:27
  that wasn't playing live because that's all we did.
• 46:30
  Oh, yeah.
• 46:34
  I love this track. You talk about the challenging parts of it. It's almost two
• 46:38
  songs in one, right? With that, that. That rhythm break that
• 46:42
  happens. And with this studio version, like, it's almost like you
• 46:46
  hear it and like, it's like, okay, like it's. It sounds like every time you
• 46:50
  guys change it up, like they've got it right. Not that,
• 46:53
  not that you didn't have it before, but it's like, wow, they've done it again.
• 46:56
  Right? And the playfulness of this song already. I mean,
• 47:00
  it's had huge moments. I think back to the 2022 Eastern version. 14 plus
• 47:05
  minutes, absolute dance party. That was a hell of a night. And then just recently
• 47:08
  in Dylan, you get that mashup with Shock
• 47:13
  Doctrine, man. I mean,
• 47:16
  you talk about mixing the old with the new, and that's so playful.
• 47:20
  And a lot of the stuff that, you know us as fans, that's why.
• 47:24
  That's why you go to the 100 plus shows, right, to see stuff like that.
• 47:27
  Well, you've also got. Because you got to see that version actually played correctly.
• 47:33
  We had a major technical difficulty, you know, doing like I Do Dylan.
• 47:38
  And so we can't. I still hurt from that. I'm still like, listen,
• 47:42
  I. I'm still. I can't stop rinsing it. Like,
• 47:46
  I'm not just listening to it. Yeah, we're gonna have a better version sooner than
• 47:50
  later. So that's. That's. That's funny,
• 47:53
  too, because we were. I was staying right there in those condos, and y' all
• 47:56
  must have worked that for 30 minutes during soundcheck.
• 48:00
  Just over and over and over. I was like, that one's gonna be special when
• 48:04
  they get it off. What's happening with this one? Yeah, it was.
• 48:08
  Let's do one last thing with, like, I do. A lot of people might not
• 48:12
  know this. Like, it's stemming from Find Another Woman by Raina,
• 48:16
  right? But it, like, it keeps
• 48:21
  that, like, old school rave mentality in mind, but, like, elevates it
• 48:25
  to 20, 25. STS 9. Like, where. Where does that come from?
• 48:29
  What comes first? Chicken and egg scenario. Like, was it those,
• 48:33
  you know, that. That vocal hook,
• 48:37
  that. That kind of inspired it or did. Was it like, kind of being like,
• 48:39
  oh, this fits pretty well with that? It was the chords. The chords came first
• 48:43
  and then the. Actually, no, it was the arp. The melody, basically,
• 48:47
  the da da da da da da da da that came first, then the chords
• 48:51
  and then the beat. And then. So it was the music that came first.
• 48:55
  We really had the music first. And then it was just like, this is just.
• 48:59
  Just wants a hook. You know what I mean? That's why I got to hear.
• 49:02
  I was looking for actually, like a, you know, like an mc.
• 49:06
  You know, I tried a bunch of different things like that. That's what I thought
• 49:09
  originally. That, you know, that's. That's what we were going for. And I've,
• 49:13
  you know, got so many acapellas and just kind of running.
• 49:17
  Just. And the truth is just kind of running through a bunch of different stuff,
• 49:20
  and then you stumble on something like, Whoa, wait, what. What is this? This is
• 49:24
  kind of. And it honestly kind of just. It's. I mean,
• 49:27
  I'm, like, testing stuff, and it's like. It's not exactly on time.
• 49:31
  It's just. You can get a sense of, like, how things are kind of working
• 49:34
  without it being perfect. This was perfect. It was just like. For a
• 49:38
  minute, it just, like, played out, just sitting there, like, what is going on here?
• 49:41
  You know? And then you follow those things. When those kind of things happen,
• 49:44
  you just kind of, you know, you give thanks and you don't ask questions and
• 49:47
  you move on.
• 49:53
  Next track. Next. Next question.
• 49:57
  Magic. All that magic. That's right. That's right,
• 50:00
  Scotty. Now let's talk about. It's all right, right? Yeah.
• 50:04
  This song gives Empire vibes with the. With the vocal sample,
• 50:08
  distortion. Do you guys ever throw
• 50:12
  in, like, intentional callbacks to previous stuff?
• 50:16
  Well, yes, Especially live,
• 50:20
  obviously. Sure. And then there's things that just naturally
• 50:24
  come out. We'll be recording something new in one of us.
• 50:28
  Like, Phips will play something. It's like, wait, that's this song.
• 50:32
  I'm playing this improper. Yeah, this part of this song that. Yeah.
• 50:35
  And so something will be inspired by something old
• 50:38
  or. Or there will be actual kind
• 50:42
  of remnants that will show back up in a new piece.
• 50:46
  We're not afraid to do that either. And so. Yeah, yeah, we. Yeah,
• 50:50
  we've heard that with the chords. I think we heard, like, the progression of the
• 50:53
  unquestionable Supremacy of Nature chords until, like, get loud. Right. Like, it's,
• 50:57
  like, really cool to experience that. But like, with these vocals, like.
• 51:00
  Yeah, just like that super kind of like eerie, echoey, like,
• 51:04
  Empires intro that you're hearing. Let's talk about those
• 51:08
  samples. What are the origins of the samples and what
• 51:12
  exactly are we hearing there?
• 51:15
  Well, the Origin of the Sample is a pretty kind of obscure dance
• 51:20
  record. And so that's got. I can't remember exactly
• 51:24
  what it is right now, but it's got a bunch of acapellas like that.
• 51:27
  And so that was the. You know,
• 51:32
  that was the sample, more or less. It was just like finding something that you
• 51:36
  really resonate with in the moment because something is going on in the world that
• 51:40
  feels like this is. This addresses something that feels,
• 51:43
  you know, pertinent right now. And that did somehow.
• 51:47
  And so I think, you know, it was just having a message like
• 51:51
  that that has a little bit of attitude. The guy just says it with this
• 51:54
  kind of adject I don't know what it is. I kind of like that.
• 51:56
  And. You don't really know what they're saying either.
• 52:01
  Yeah, it's just got this kind of vibe. Well, it's just. He's welcoming everybody and
• 52:05
  anybody into the house, you know. You know, it's. It's just
• 52:09
  like, no matter who you are or where you come from,
• 52:13
  you are welcome here. That is. That's ultimately what he's saying.
• 52:17
  And that. That is. And. And it's about the music. It's about welcoming each other
• 52:21
  and embracing each other through the music and letting the music being that.
• 52:26
  That place where we can meet in those ways.
• 52:30
  So it's all right. That's part of what that is. It's like, you know,
• 52:33
  there's a. There's a. You know, life is built in this
• 52:36
  way that is symphonic. And it is all. Not only is. It's all right,
• 52:40
  it's good, and it's great, beautiful, and it's a blessing. And it's. You know,
• 52:44
  it's. There's no words for it. It's a symphony,
• 52:48
  as people would say. Yeah, exactly.
• 52:52
  It's like this. At the core of life, it is unfathomably
• 52:57
  blue, unfathomably beautiful. And wanting to
• 53:01
  kind of tap into that, to use it as a way to say, you know,
• 53:05
  we're all welcome here in this beautiful place.
• 53:08
  Yeah. But it's, like. Reminded me something, too,
• 53:13
  actually. We were playing today recently. I forget what it
• 53:17
  was. We played a couple times. Yeah, you were. Thank you for that.
• 53:22
  Thank you. Thank you for that. Yeah.
• 53:26
  Out of it. Yeah. I really, really loved that song.
• 53:33
  That was, for me.
• 53:37
  I wasn't sure if that was actually mine. I. Yeah. Thank you.
• 53:41
  Thank you. Wow. What a treat. So that was
• 53:45
  the first time I actually realized that. That one
• 53:49
  of the parts in today is basically one of the parts and get loud and
• 53:52
  just. I didn't realize it until the Boulder theater, like, on stage three
• 53:56
  weeks ago. Wait a second. This is almost exactly that part. So things like,
• 54:00
  sneak back up into music. You can't get away from certain things,
• 54:04
  and it's just who you are, and it's just okay to kind of express those
• 54:07
  in different contexts, you know? Yeah. I mean, that. That's like,
• 54:11
  you know, that's so true. It's. You know, that's Miles Davis right
• 54:15
  there, man. That's what he did. You know, you can listen to Miles Davis from
• 54:19
  the 50s and then Miles Davis in the 80s, and he's playing the same lines.
• 54:22
  It's just, you know. Yeah. You Guys are like, creating standards.
• 54:27
  Well, well, it's a language. It's like a language, you know,
• 54:31
  and so we have this sort of language between us that's,
• 54:34
  you know, it keeps going and going and
• 54:38
  going, but it's always kind of there in the. Everything we do.
• 54:42
  It's that through line. Right.
• 54:45
  Fun story about. It's all right. I wanted to just share with you
• 54:49
  because I feel like you'll appreciate it. So I. I went out of
• 54:53
  town. Like, I don't know, like, I had to go be with my family for
• 54:56
  some family thing for a couple weeks. And in between, oh, we did Bonnaroo.
• 55:00
  And then I. I was in Nashville, right. With my family. These guys went back
• 55:04
  to Santa Cruz. I get a call like, yeah, what? We're going to play Electric
• 55:08
  Forest. We have a new song.
• 55:11
  We want to do it at Electric Forest. I'm like, I don't
• 55:15
  have a base at home. I don't have. What do you mean? You want me
• 55:19
  to, like, play. I'm. I'm like, well, Hunter, can you send it to me?
• 55:23
  Yeah. You leave these guys alone for one week and they've read,
• 55:27
  okay, we're playing Electric Force. You're just gonna walk out and
• 55:31
  play a new song, Electric. Okay. Not just a new song, but one I had
• 55:34
  never heard prior to that. And so I'm like, at my
• 55:38
  mom's wall, my dad has like a keyboard. So I'm like, on the keyboard,
• 55:43
  like. Hey, I could not do this. I'm like, here's a
• 55:47
  part. Okay. No, I'm like, here's a part of like. I got this.
• 55:51
  It's cool. We show up and just like rock that song.
• 55:55
  I mean, not only the first time we played it, but literally the.
• 55:58
  I mean, the. The first time we played it together.
• 56:04
  It'S dance floor napalm, I like to call it for sure. Right off the bat,
• 56:07
  I think we. And it went right into inspire, didn't it? I think it went
• 56:10
  right into inspire. It might have, yeah. I think we even. I'm the statistian.
• 56:14
  I can check on that. As Scotty as.
• 56:18
  So just don't really have a portal question. Just got a selfish
• 56:22
  ask. Can we make this like a 15 minute ordeal? I mean,
• 56:27
  good. Yeah. Portal. Yeah.
• 56:30
  Oh, absolutely. Let's do it. I just wanna.
• 56:33
  I wanna live in that song.
• 56:37
  That, that and that and symphony so far are.
• 56:41
  Are the two ones for me. That symphony in particular. I just
• 56:45
  cannot believe how well that song and
• 56:49
  how quickly that song feels like you guys have been playing it for eight to
• 56:54
  ten Years. It's huge. It steals sets and
• 56:59
  it's, you know, one of the newer ones. Right.
• 57:02
  When. When was that recorded in the scheme of humans?
• 57:06
  January. Yeah. January. Yeah. Wow.
• 57:09
  And yeah, let's get. Let's. Let's get that upright involved in it. Right?
• 57:13
  That's. That sounds so smooth on the recording. Is that the first upright bass
• 57:17
  involved in a studio recording for sds Portal. On Portal.
• 57:21
  Yeah. No, because. Light years.
• 57:26
  All right. And okay, there's a couple things on. On. I always try
• 57:30
  to get it in there, so. Well, usually Hunter's like put some up
• 57:34
  right up somewhere. But yeah, I was. Yeah, there's a
• 57:38
  couple things on. On Universal side. But yeah, this was really fun to
• 57:43
  do. I don't think I had really done. We had not done a song like
• 57:46
  that with the upright for sure. So. And that was
• 57:50
  super special because I. I got a new.
• 57:54
  A new one that's like my at home upright bass
• 57:58
  that I don't take out because it's so awesome. Oh man.
• 58:02
  And. But I will take. I do. I do take it out if I'm in
• 58:05
  Denver, but I don't take it on the road. But it's recorded on
• 58:09
  that base as the first recording of that instrument. So cool. It's pretty cool.
• 58:13
  Yeah. It's pretty stunning. Yeah. Stat check.
• 58:16
  That was never, never into Inspire to start that. And then
• 58:20
  it was. It's lift you up into 2012
• 58:24
  into the tsara. It's all right. Into like I do like you.
• 58:28
  You didn't just play you like I do. That's what it was. Yeah, yeah,
• 58:31
  yeah, yeah. You put it into a four song segment where you didn'. So there's
• 58:35
  another challenge for sure. And I think never, never they change.
• 58:39
  You got. We changed the arrangement of it right before that. That was different.
• 58:42
  That was. That either I was like, okay, Electric Force,
• 58:46
  let's go. And just back. Life's a Symphony
• 58:50
  was written, I mean brand new in January. Portal to
• 58:54
  the story Path was written. Well at least the first parts of that were last
• 58:58
  year. Like you know, spring of last year maybe I think maybe even. Yeah,
• 59:02
  a little bit longer than that. That's been. We've had that kind of kicking around
• 59:04
  for a second, but not the. The kind of main thrust of it. All the
• 59:08
  melodies and all that came kind of the end of last year and it really,
• 59:11
  you know, came together. It's got a sample related question
• 59:15
  that that kind of encompasses a bunch of these songs.
• 59:18
  You talked on Strange Games about not getting the. Sorry.
• 59:22
  You talked on Instagram about Strange Games Specifically, and not getting the
• 59:26
  sample cleared from Outkast.
• 59:29
  Seems like you interpolated the shaky ground sample
• 59:34
  with. Is that Armani that we're hearing on that? Yes. Okay,
• 59:38
  let. I just. I just have a sample clearance question, honestly.
• 59:42
  What. What is that process like? And you know,
• 59:46
  obviously with Strange Games, it didn't. But have you ever been working on
• 59:50
  a song that's kind of built around a sample that gets.
• 59:53
  That gets denied and it's kind of. Well, that's the end of it.
• 59:56
  Or, you know, to what we've kind of been talking about? Does that song just
• 59:59
  kind of turn into something else at that point? You know, we've got songs that
• 1:00:03
  were built on things that we never thought about even trying to. You know what
• 1:00:06
  I mean? Just kind of fun. Sure. But we've never had a song that we've
• 1:00:10
  made that has been kind of held up because of. Or that we've had to
• 1:00:13
  just give up on because of sample. I mean, one of the biggest things is,
• 1:00:16
  you know, sample samples and sampling is about 5%
• 1:00:21
  of our music. Yeah. And it's. And. And it's. And it's 99
• 1:00:25
  of it is vocals. Right. I mean, we care very
• 1:00:30
  much. I mean, one of the biggest things that. I mean, something we care the
• 1:00:33
  most about is being a band and playing instruments and writing music
• 1:00:38
  that we play and, And. And doing that together and recording
• 1:00:42
  it ourselves and. And do you be, you know, doing that whole thing, creating our
• 1:00:46
  own samples, you know, more or less. And so it's like the. The ones
• 1:00:51
  that we've had issues with have been kind of ridiculous ass from the beginning,
• 1:00:54
  like. Sure. It's like, hey, can we have your biggest hit? You know,
• 1:00:58
  it's like, you know, it was just. It was like, you know, you just kind
• 1:01:02
  of throw it out there, see what happens. It was something just for fun that
• 1:01:04
  we never thought it would go that far. You know what I mean? You put
• 1:01:07
  together for a show, this is gonna be amazing. And you're like, oh, this can
• 1:01:10
  go on the album. How are we. How are we gonna do this? You know,
• 1:01:11
  but really, those kind of open. At least Strange Games in particular,
• 1:01:15
  opened up a way for us to find like something like brand new
• 1:01:19
  in the music, you know, And I think we love. I mean, I think we
• 1:01:22
  love what's there now way more than what was there. I mean, it's fun.
• 1:01:25
  We love Big Boy 100. Yeah. As far as music, as far as, like the,
• 1:01:29
  you know, the legacy of that song recorded legacy
• 1:01:33
  of that song, it's much more in A place now that we, you know,
• 1:01:37
  it's. It's closer to our heart now than it was.
• 1:01:40
  And so some things are just. They work out for the better,
• 1:01:44
  but the process in itself is like. It's just like a lot of.
• 1:01:49
  A lot of busy work. A lot of suits. Yeah, the work. You don't
• 1:01:53
  really know what's going to stop something like. So we went a long way trying
• 1:01:57
  to get shaking ground. We had it for all we knew. We had
• 1:02:01
  a price, we had a deal, we had all of that. And at the last
• 1:02:05
  minute, actually, someone else came in and said, actually, we're not licensing
• 1:02:09
  any of this artist's music at all. So it's not that. Not giving it to
• 1:02:12
  you, not doing this. It's like this is not available to anyone. It's just not
• 1:02:15
  for sale. Yeah. So you just kind of run into all kind of stuff like
• 1:02:19
  that that, you know, you just never know what it's going to be. But you
• 1:02:21
  try your best. And we are really. We care a lot about.
• 1:02:25
  About crediting and giving credit to those that we
• 1:02:29
  are inspired by and that we, you know, actually use anything from. And we've had
• 1:02:33
  samples that we tried for years finding the, you know, the artist who we knew
• 1:02:37
  it was. We just couldn't get any answer back. Couldn't get any from them.
• 1:02:40
  And so, you know, it's a. It's kind of. It's a real.
• 1:02:43
  It's always different. The sample is. Is a. Is a. Is always
• 1:02:48
  something different. There's nothing kind of, you know, usual about it.
• 1:02:52
  And it's a major headache. And I think for us, it's way more fun
• 1:02:56
  just to create our own music, you know, but everyone, you know, we come from
• 1:03:00
  that era and we come from that music, and so it's gonna seep it.
• 1:03:04
  It's gonna find its way into what we do. And when it does,
• 1:03:07
  we've got a pretty good protocol
• 1:03:12
  to how to get it done. Got people who help us do that. There's people
• 1:03:14
  that we hire to actually go out and take care of that. There's people who
• 1:03:17
  actually do that for a living. It's like they. What's the sample? What's the information?
• 1:03:21
  I will go and get the deal for you. More or less.
• 1:03:25
  It's a major game out there that everyone struggles
• 1:03:29
  with. Yeah, a great look under the head there. We use samples and
• 1:03:33
  maybe the way others do. I mean, I think it's. It's there to embellish
• 1:03:38
  and accentuate the music, that if the sample goes
• 1:03:42
  away, there's still the Integrity of the music. It's not dependent on that,
• 1:03:45
  Right? Absolutely. I think that's a different. A distinguishment
• 1:03:49
  in the way that we use that.
• 1:03:53
  For sure. And like talking skimming in
• 1:03:56
  the next song of the ep. Right. Walk the sky just to hit on it.
• 1:04:01
  I mean, this is like the crowning drum and bass achievement of this record.
• 1:04:04
  It sounds like Zach basically evaporates into thin air every
• 1:04:08
  time we break it down live. And just to hit on
• 1:04:13
  it, no real questions on it. It just sounds like one of those songs that
• 1:04:16
  the world needs right now, you know, come together, hand in hand,
• 1:04:19
  time to be free. Yeah. And it just seems like,
• 1:04:23
  you know, in times of social and political turmoil,
• 1:04:26
  that can influence your art and inspire people to come together.
• 1:04:30
  So that one is so awesome. And to. For Alana to
• 1:04:34
  be sampled vocally on that is. Is. Is really cool.
• 1:04:38
  And it just sounds awesome. But,
• 1:04:42
  sky, we'll. We'll finish things off. Yeah.
• 1:04:46
  Let's talk about. We've been talking a whole lot about the. The human dream.
• 1:04:50
  Let's talk about the human nightmare that is
• 1:04:54
  Dusk. Oh, my God.
• 1:04:59
  Was that a good nightmare? It sounds. No, the best nightmare.
• 1:05:02
  Like my favorite. My favorite kind of fish. Fish. This is evil soundtrack.
• 1:05:06
  And that's my favorite soundtrack, too. Was this song written in a
• 1:05:10
  graveyard? No, but it's. It's funny that you say that.
• 1:05:14
  It really. It's because it does come from. You know, the inspiration behind
• 1:05:19
  that song definitely is. You know,
• 1:05:23
  I don't know how to put it. You know, it comes from a more violent
• 1:05:26
  kind of music, I guess. Yeah. No, it makes me feel like I'm walking in
• 1:05:30
  mud. Yes. You know, there's some.
• 1:05:33
  There's some producers. I love that. There's some,
• 1:05:37
  like, you know, some producers and some, you know, some groups right now that I
• 1:05:41
  just. I mean, I'm just a hip hop, you know, I mean,
• 1:05:45
  I just love hip hop. Always had same, always will. I still always listen
• 1:05:49
  to, you know, and so it's. There's definitely some new kind of.
• 1:05:53
  There's a. I don't know. It's. There's. It's hard to get that feeling.
• 1:05:58
  To kind of conjure this feeling of like something is not
• 1:06:02
  quite right. There's a.
• 1:06:06
  There's like a. You know, I've got my senses up in a new way.
• 1:06:09
  Yeah. You know, and. And I need to. And wow. And, you know,
• 1:06:13
  that kind of music, it's the best way to explain. And there's a power maybe,
• 1:06:17
  too, that kind of. It kind of gives you this certain kind of you know,
• 1:06:21
  confidence, or it's meant to kind of with my. You know, with your senses up
• 1:06:26
  and everything's kind of. Yeah, yeah. It's got this whole.
• 1:06:29
  That music fascinates me on every level. And I don't know why, but that's
• 1:06:33
  some of my favorite music is really just hard, dirty,
• 1:06:36
  kind of, you know, like, as you say, like evil.
• 1:06:40
  I don't know. Some of those just, you know, mob deep. I mean,
• 1:06:44
  just you can think of like all these kind of classic. Yeah. It's just.
• 1:06:47
  It does something that. That few other genres of
• 1:06:52
  music do. And so. Yeah. Mafia. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
• 1:06:55
  I see the Griselda stuff. Conductor Dylan. Hell yeah.
• 1:06:58
  Hunter. Yeah. That's like some of the. That's, like, inspiring that
• 1:07:02
  me and Phips are like, listening to some of that. I'm assuming this, like,
• 1:07:05
  you know, let's. You know. And then he comes in, like, the roads. And she's
• 1:07:08
  like, oh, you know. Yeah. There was a moment where he came
• 1:07:12
  in on that at Dylan. And, like, you looked over and you were like,
• 1:07:15
  yes, okay. There's a lot of that. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:07:19
  I. I honestly, I've moved differently ever since I heard it for the first time.
• 1:07:22
  So. Yeah,
• 1:07:26
  it's worth it. We call it scare your grandmother music.
• 1:07:30
  Drew loves it. Drew is like, why will you not play that at
• 1:07:35
  nighttime? We're gonna scare people. We're gonna scare people.
• 1:07:39
  He's like, dude, I love that song. I got it totally dark for one.
• 1:07:43
  So good. So we're. We're gonna get
• 1:07:47
  you guys out of here. If Two. Two more questions.
• 1:07:51
  If this album had a thesis statement, what would it be?
• 1:07:57
  It actually does. It's got a whole. Okay, it's got a.
• 1:08:01
  Well, maybe not a thesis statement, but it's got a. It's got a.
• 1:08:05
  Let's say a pamphlet in the works, a zine in the works that goes
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  to it. So there's all. There's some poetry that's gone to it. We've got some
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  writing in, you know, that we've. We've written
• 1:08:17
  some things in effort to try to describe what we're really trying to say with
• 1:08:20
  this. And we're going to share that eventually. But ultimately,
• 1:08:23
  I think it goes back to that thing I was saying a minute ago.
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  Sorry, I'm fucking ranting. Talking too much. No, this is great.
• 1:08:29
  But yeah. Yeah, it's like.
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  It goes back to. That thing is like music. It's like, what. The power of
• 1:08:36
  the human dream. What we put into the music, what we put into the theme,
• 1:08:41
  into the. You know, the conceptual part of the theme and what we're trying to
• 1:08:43
  express and all that is only going to be truly felt
• 1:08:47
  if it's experienced. You know, it's truly. It's not really anything I can tell you.
• 1:08:51
  I can point you to other people talking about all kind of things that are,
• 1:08:54
  you know, way more eloquent than I can, you know, but ultimately, it's this kind
• 1:08:57
  of confluence of all these things that we've put into the music that hopefully,
• 1:09:01
  through the experience of listening to it and living with it, you'll get the
• 1:09:04
  same thing out of it, you know, and so that's what we hope people will
• 1:09:08
  do. We know it's a big ask in this day of, you know, you know,
• 1:09:12
  just saturation of music and everything, but it's something we put
• 1:09:16
  a lot of, you know, a lot of time and
• 1:09:19
  love and energy and thought and just our
• 1:09:23
  lives. We put our whole lives into this really. And really wanted to say something
• 1:09:27
  that means something to us. And the Human
• 1:09:31
  Dream was the perfect kind of title to capture that. And we can't wait to
• 1:09:34
  talk about that stuff more when the album comes out and what it's, you know,
• 1:09:37
  kind of what some of that stuff is about and. And share the thesis statement,
• 1:09:41
  you know, because it's definitely, hey, yeah, yeah,
• 1:09:45
  door's. Always open, Mike's always on here, so just let us know. But we
• 1:09:50
  know that this album obviously is being broken up into eps, and then there's a
• 1:09:53
  bunch of other tracks we're going to hear. And Brad let us know, like,
• 1:09:55
  front to back. This is going to listen differently than the
• 1:09:59
  eps and how it's broken up, and that's going to be a whole different experience,
• 1:10:02
  right? What would you guys hope listeners take away
• 1:10:06
  from the Human Dream in full after hearing it front to back?
• 1:10:13
  I mean, I think that's what we've been trying to kind of just talk about
• 1:10:17
  is just like, we really hope that people find
• 1:10:21
  their own place in it, you know, find their own spirit within it
• 1:10:25
  and then share that, you know, and that's
• 1:10:29
  what makes it symbiotic. That's what makes the whole thing go.
• 1:10:34
  And so, like Hunter said, it's like, it's a big ask,
• 1:10:38
  right? Like, you got 19 songs. Like, you know, I.
• 1:10:42
  I know you guys will listen to it all the way through. We hope all
• 1:10:45
  people listen to it all the way through, but, you know, I think
• 1:10:50
  the journey will be revealed when you. When you hear it, you know,
• 1:10:54
  and that's. That's the beauty of it. So we. We really we hope
• 1:10:58
  people can. And. Yeah,
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  just kind of feel. Feel what. What we've
• 1:11:06
  put into it. Carry that back out into the world,
• 1:11:09
  keep that whole synergy going.
• 1:11:14
  And. And that's really. That's really it, honestly, you know,
• 1:11:18
  but we. We. I think one of the things is, like, really just grateful
• 1:11:22
  that people listen. And. And again,
• 1:11:26
  it's just like, that we don't take that for granted, like, ever,
• 1:11:29
  ever. And especially, you know,
• 1:11:34
  today it's, you know, you might not have time to
• 1:11:38
  sit down and listen to something for, you know, an hour,
• 1:11:41
  a half an hour, ten minutes, you know. So,
• 1:11:44
  yeah, like, thank you. Thanks for doing this. Thanks for
• 1:11:48
  spreading our music around and sharing it, you know, seriously,
• 1:11:52
  like giving people tickets or just trying to, like, open the door, you know,
• 1:11:57
  that's really it. Right? We're opening that door too. You know, it's just like
• 1:12:01
  that portal. Paving the portal. Love it. Yes.
• 1:12:05
  Last question. When's it drop? November 21st.
• 1:12:09
  November 21st. We're having a party. LA.
• 1:12:13
  All right. So, LA. It's nice that time of year. Yeah.
• 1:12:16
  Bellwether is super dope. You guys, like, it's a new.
• 1:12:20
  New venue there. We're super stoked. Play there. It's going to
• 1:12:24
  be the celebration of the Full Human Dream and
• 1:12:29
  the artifact 20th anniversary as well. And we're going to do it
• 1:12:33
  even differently than we did in Asheville. So we
• 1:12:37
  have a whole plan for that as well, that we're super stoked on working out
• 1:12:41
  all the details for it. But, yeah, definitely don't miss those shows.
• 1:12:45
  November 21st, that's Human Dream, the full thing.
• 1:12:49
  19 songs. Oh, yeah. We cannot wait.
• 1:12:54
  Thank you guys so much. Not just for, first of all, for joining us.
• 1:12:58
  I know time is of the essence right now and very valuable and
• 1:13:02
  it's very appreciated and we couldn't have had more fun and been more
• 1:13:06
  pumped for this. And you guys delivered with some epic background looks under
• 1:13:10
  the hood, some great stories, and I think you guys
• 1:13:14
  are better wordsmiths than you give yourself credit for. So thank you
• 1:13:17
  so much for joining us. Like to give some. Some chest pats
• 1:13:22
  to you guys. Thank you. In the words of Jeffrey,
• 1:13:26
  thank you for your listenership.
• 1:13:29
  Yeah, love that. That's a new one. Yeah. Oh, man.
• 1:13:35
  Being our being. Being the ambassadors that you guys are, I think
• 1:13:38
  that's. I would thank all our fans for that in a big way. There are
• 1:13:43
  big ships, there are small ships, but the best ships are listener ships for sure.
• 1:13:46
  So, I mean, one.
• 1:13:50
  You can have that one. Wow. I got a credit.
• 1:13:54
  I got A credit. I gotta. Gotta credit
• 1:13:58
  Brandon Pro for that one. He's. That. That's a good one from him. But yeah.
• 1:14:01
  Thank you guys so much for joining us. Good Lord, thank y' all so much.
• 1:14:04
  Love y'. All. Love you too. Thank you, guys. See you next.
• 1:14:10
  All right, Scotty back. Just the
• 1:14:14
  two of us. So lonely. That was fun.
• 1:14:18
  Look at us. Who'd have thought? Look at us, brother.
• 1:14:21
  I'm so proud of us. Oh, man, that was a lot of fun. You just
• 1:14:25
  heard from Hunter Brown, Zach Velmer, David Fitz, Jeffrey Lerner,
• 1:14:29
  and Alana Rocklin. Man,
• 1:14:32
  if that doesn't get you more excited for this release, I don't
• 1:14:36
  know what does. Just the amount of intentionality that's
• 1:14:41
  going into it and the themes behind it and. And just the
• 1:14:45
  overall arc of this project goes deeper than we even thought.
• 1:14:50
  And that's what seems to happen when you. When you do a deep
• 1:14:54
  dive on this band is you ask yourself, is it that deep?
• 1:14:58
  Yeah, I think it is. Yeah, it is. There. There is a
• 1:15:02
  reason why. Why people care so deeply
• 1:15:06
  about this band and is. Sometimes it can. It can rear its
• 1:15:10
  face and not so pretty ways. But I
• 1:15:16
  think that's what's important to remember no matter what state the
• 1:15:20
  fans or this fan base is in is that, you know, we give a.
• 1:15:24
  About some sts9 and man,
• 1:15:29
  it just is so grateful for what just happened.
• 1:15:33
  You know, we're about to get into the. The. The two tracks
• 1:15:37
  that. That we hadn't heard in a. In a studio setting before, but so
• 1:15:42
  grateful to. To the. To. To those guys, you know, the guys
• 1:15:46
  and girls for. For stopping by and. And sharing that moment with us because boy,
• 1:15:51
  oh boy, that was really, really special. Yeah, let's get into
• 1:15:55
  it. So we started off and the back end of the EP with
• 1:15:59
  that dusk and yeah, let's get into the.
• 1:16:03
  The headline of the Human Dream to
• 1:16:08
  EP with like I do.
• 1:20:29
  Okay.
• 1:20:47
  Oh yeah.
• 1:21:09
  Sam.
• 1:21:49
  How do you. How do you listen to that now without hearing that?
• 1:21:53
  Interesting to. Interesting to hear that. That transition that we. That we
• 1:21:57
  listened to last week was not a stuck landing according to that. I can't.
• 1:22:01
  I can't wait to hear what a stuck landing sounds like. We. We are not
• 1:22:04
  safe for when they stick that. Apparently, man,
• 1:22:09
  we get another new Hunter Brown section before
• 1:22:13
  that breakdown. And yeah,
• 1:22:18
  just. Just like we heard from them on that interview of like the. The Evolution.
• 1:22:21
  I remember the first like 12 times you heard Strange
• 1:22:25
  Games. It was like, how do they keep adding these sections too? Yeah,
• 1:22:29
  you start losing track. Yeah.
• 1:22:32
  Yeah. And that Sounds awesome. Yeah, dude.
• 1:22:35
  So good. The other thing that's really prevalent is, is it has a much more
• 1:22:39
  west coast feel on the synth side of things, on the David Phipps side of
• 1:22:43
  things, than the, than the live version.
• 1:22:47
  Man, I hope the live version starts sounding like this one.
• 1:22:51
  You know, sometimes these studio versions, they kind of just stay the
• 1:22:54
  way they are and, you know, they don't necessarily always translate back
• 1:22:58
  to, to the live version and, and the studio example
• 1:23:03
  of it. I, I would like to hear some of these rifts and some of
• 1:23:06
  that west coast style stuff make its way into the live setting a little
• 1:23:10
  bit more. Yeah, and that like, just like curdling,
• 1:23:13
  like kick drum, dude. Like, oof. Man, that breakdown now is,
• 1:23:18
  is.
• 1:23:23
  Oh, it's a toe tapper for sure. Awesome to see the,
• 1:23:27
  the progression, the evolution of it since we hear time at the ravine
• 1:23:31
  and rave spell and, and look at us now. Wow.
• 1:23:34
  It is. Look at us, buddy. Look at us. Look at
• 1:23:38
  us. Yeah. Next one, let's get some
• 1:23:42
  dance. Lord Napalm here with. It's all right.
• 1:24:11
  Crispy snare.
• 1:24:22
  Hopefully we got some good headphones on right now.
• 1:25:38
  Take.
• 1:26:03
  From here.
• 1:26:29
  Sam.
• 1:27:15
  Whoa.
• 1:27:19
  That, that's my first. I've been listening to this in the car,
• 1:27:22
  Scotty, which I thought was a good place to listen to the new ep.
• 1:27:26
  I love to listen to soundboards in the car because. Yeah,
• 1:27:29
  in the show. You're at the show.
• 1:27:33
  Yeah. First listen on some headphones. Dear God.
• 1:27:37
  The student. The mix on this and like all
• 1:27:41
  of the clicks and pops and the,
• 1:27:44
  the finishing touches and the mastering of the drums.
• 1:27:48
  This is very quickly becoming a top 10 song for me.
• 1:27:54
  Alarmingly quickly. I mean, it should be,
• 1:27:58
  it's got, it's got all those elements of a, of a song that kind of
• 1:28:02
  brightens the set no matter where it is. First set,
• 1:28:06
  second set, opener, closer, encore. Bro, like there's.
• 1:28:09
  I talked about it last week, the, the spec.
• 1:28:13
  I talked about the way they pimp it at a show and you know,
• 1:28:17
  I, I, I. My only, my only note is that they should do it more.
• 1:28:20
  I mean, they should walk off stage and come back and.
• 1:28:24
  Dude. Those false endings.
• 1:28:28
  Yeah, yeah, dude, that, that in the live setting is like. It's like
• 1:28:32
  Hunter said, you gotta feel it. Like that's a three minute song on
• 1:28:35
  this album. And it's, it's one of the, you know, it captures
• 1:28:39
  all the, all the, the basics of it,
• 1:28:43
  but it's, you know, one of those, like, growers that at a show
• 1:28:47
  you're like, whoa, whoa. That was that was way,
• 1:28:50
  way more intense and way fun
• 1:28:54
  and bubbly and yeah, it's great. It's a grower and a
• 1:28:58
  shower, you know. Grower and a shower. Exactly. The, the, the snare
• 1:29:02
  at the beginning of this. You want to talk about like some,
• 1:29:06
  something that the studio and that, that Brad has just really dialed
• 1:29:10
  in sound wise. Just so good, man. This is,
• 1:29:14
  this is great. Some people were surprised that,
• 1:29:18
  that these were the songs.
• 1:29:22
  This is, this is what bands do. They play them live and, and then they,
• 1:29:26
  they put them on albums. It's been a while since we've had a proper STS9
• 1:29:31
  album. So I guess from that perspective. These aren't new if you go to
• 1:29:34
  a lot of shows, but you know, these songs made perfect sense
• 1:29:38
  to me as far as album direction and just, you know, this is what I
• 1:29:42
  would expect them to be putting on the album at this point. This is what
• 1:29:45
  they're comfortable with. Yeah, absolutely. And, and I think
• 1:29:49
  these six tracks work together extremely well.
• 1:29:53
  So I mean you take a look at the songs that are
• 1:29:56
  on Human Dream 1 and Human Dream 2. We got six songs a piece.
• 1:30:00
  And that leaves us with doing the math correctly here.
• 1:30:03
  Scotty. Seven to go. And I think it's
• 1:30:07
  going to be a fun guessing game as to what those songs are going to
• 1:30:10
  be to fill out the rest of this project. Like Brad said, we might be
• 1:30:13
  hearing some stuff or definitely going to be hearing a few that we've never heard
• 1:30:18
  that are yet to make their live debut. Like the band just mentioned,
• 1:30:21
  they're in the studio working on some old tracks that have never gotten the studio
• 1:30:26
  treatment. So I mean the, the possib possibilities are endless
• 1:30:29
  leading up to the full release coming at the end of November here.
• 1:30:33
  Yeah, I mean exciting times to
• 1:30:37
  be, to be a soundtrack fan is, is an understatement right now.
• 1:30:42
  This, you know, the, the, this, this feels
• 1:30:46
  like the band on a mission. You know, I, I, I, I think we,
• 1:30:50
  I, I think we can be hopeful that, you know,
• 1:30:54
  the, the, the, the next few months are going to be really, really cool.
• 1:30:59
  Yeah. What an episode, guys. Shout out
• 1:31:03
  to Sound Tribe, Sector nine. Um, yes,
• 1:31:06
  it's always shout out to Sound Tribe, Sector nine. This, this whole
• 1:31:10
  establishment doesn't really work without that band, but good God, we are.
• 1:31:14
  What would we talk about? Dude, I don't know.
• 1:31:17
  Sports and hip hop probably. But yeah,
• 1:31:20
  wouldn't be, we wouldn't be nearly as educated or,
• 1:31:24
  or you know, articulate on the topic. But thank
• 1:31:29
  you to, to the band for joining us today. It will not be
• 1:31:33
  the last time you guys hear from them collectively or individually.
• 1:31:37
  But you know there's always something special about your first time time,
• 1:31:40
  right? Yeah, I will. I will remember. I will remember this one for
• 1:31:44
  a long time, partner. I'm really glad we got to do it together for sure.
• 1:31:47
  Thank you guys all for watching and listening. Whether you're watching on YouTube or
• 1:31:52
  listening on Apple Music, Apple podcasts, or Spotify.
• 1:31:55
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• 1:31:58
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• 1:32:02
  it's your first episode, welcome. We do this every week.
• 1:32:05
  We will be back next week week with our
• 1:32:10
  first Wave spell episode in a long time, Scotty.
• 1:32:14
  Might be months. Yeah, time to put the Dukes up and square off
• 1:32:18
  again. We'll we'll have to actually put up we never got a vote on who
• 1:32:21
  won the last episode, so we'll put that up on our story this weekend as
• 1:32:25
  well. But yeah, until then,
• 1:32:28
  y', all, next week. Much love.